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Krystine Kellogg Season 6 Episode 5

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I’m 46 (almost 47 😑) and recently asked Google:

How does perimenopause affect a Female-Led Relationship?

Turns out… a lot.

In this episode, I open up about:

• Brain fog & irritability
 • Night sweats & sleep disruption
 • Anxiety spikes
 • Libido loss & shifting sexual desire
 • Intimacy beyond PIV
 • Leading emotionally while hormones fluctuate
 • Communication inside an FLR during perimenopause
 • Exercise, supplements & thoughts on HRT

If you’re a dominant woman navigating hormone changes…
 If you’re in a long-term marriage wondering what happens when sex drive shifts…
 If you’re in an FLR where leadership includes emotional regulation…

This conversation is real, raw, and honest.

Power exchange doesn’t disappear when libido changes, it evolves.

Dominance isn’t about how often you have sex.
 It’s about how intentionally you lead.

If you have questions about perimenopause, intimacy, hormone shifts, or FLR dynamics — send them. This may become a Part 2.

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This podcast is intended for mature audiences only. If you are not 18 years of age or older, there are thousands of other podcasts you can listen to and you can come back and visit us when you are 18. This podcast is meant solely for entertainment. We are not licensed doctors, lawyers, or therapists. We simply have a fascination with the lifestyle and I'd love to share it with you and get your thoughts and opinions. That's gonna be the new thing. It's my fucking podcast and your breathing aggravates me. There's the opener. Stop breathing. Welcome back. Hi, Sammy. Hey, how's it going? Good, how are you? We're still wearing the same clothes that we wore a week ago. What? I would take my shirt off but it's fucking cold in here. It is. Just because we have the same hoodies on doesn't mean we wear these all the time. Listen, nobody probably would have fucking known if you wouldn't have said nothing. We also live in a bus. We only have one hoodie. Don't judge. We do not have one hoodie. We listen and we don't judge. If you could only see the amount of hoodies this woman has. I don't know why he's talking right now. Nobody told him he could speak. This is true. Do we have any housekeeping? Starting to sound like a rap song. I don't think so. No? Really? No? Because we kind of covered some of that in the last episode. The thing that... What is it? The name that should not be said or something like that? Yeah. The thing that should not be talked about. No, I'm just kidding. Yes. I'm just kidding. If you're on Patreon, you know about the thing. If you're not on Patreon, you don't know about the thing yet, but you will know soon. Connect with her on Twitter. Twitter X, whatever. Or TikTok, I guess. But Twitter is probably where you get a little more meat and potatoes. Sorry. Anyways, go ahead. I don't like Twitter. Just kidding. I love Twitter. Take that out. I will because... Yep. Pudding just drove by. All right. Okay, today and this week on this episode... Okay. Just kidding. Sorry. We're going to talk about why I'm so crazy. She's not crazy. I'm not crazy. We're going to talk about perimetopause and how it affects female-led relationships because... Bam. Look at that. That's a great topic. I feel like I might be going through it. I am 46 years of age, almost 47. 47. Thank you. Years of age. And I just googled some of the symptoms and I'm like, holy fuck. I might be perimenopausal. I have said since episode whatever of this podcast that when I lose my estrogen, you better watch the fuck out. But listen, it's not even the estrogen we should have been worried about. I'm not doing nothing with testosterone. I got no sex drive. Zero, zero sex drive. And it's funny though because there's... Well, I mean, I have a middle school mentality. Yeah, we have our conversations and around the bus and around whatever. Very sexual charge. We're very innuendo-ish. Yes, right? So it's not your mind necessarily, right? Your mind is still there. You just don't have the oomph or whatever. My mind is still here. So we're winning. Yeah. No, but I mean, it's baffling to me actually. It's baffling because she says things and like offers things or whatever. I'm a really good dick tease. A lot of wives would never do, right? I don't do them. I say them. No, and that's fine. That's fun. I didn't mean to exit the camera there for a minute. I had to stretch my back because I'm a runner now. Yes, you are. And people aren't chasing you. I know, it's fun. Anywho. Yes, back at the ranch. Here, I'm going to tell you what I did because there is no blog post this time around. I literally used Google AI and said, how does perimetopause affect women in a female-led relationship? It directly affects the cognitive and emotional command center. So the first thing that I saw was cognitive brain fog. And I will tell you, I think I talked about this in the last episode also, that, you know, there's a couple of days right before Shark Week starts. That, and for anybody that doesn't know, Shark Week is when I get my period. I guess I have to be more descriptive about that. Yeah, I don't. Um, somebody asked me what the hell Shark Week was. I'm like, I'm going to bleed. Anyway, a couple of days before my cycle starts, if we're going to be proper, I have terrible brain fog. I get extreme, like this morning, extremely klutzy. I drop any, it's like I have butter on my hands. I can't hold on to anything. And then it frustrates the shit out of me. Right. And here I am over here feeling for her because there's nothing I can do to help. That's a lie. He's scared and in the corner crying. And I like it. Metaphorically, yes. It's not that bad yet. The next one is the no F's to give effect. Conversely, many women in leadership roles report a newfound assertiveness during this stage. As estrogen levels drop, some women find they are less willing to people please. The door is open. And become more direct in their leadership style. So let's talk about that because I literally just said in the last episode, I've come a long way in the last year. I feel like in my confidence and in my yes, we have to though. I think I think we got lazy for a while about me. I know. Can we stay on track? I'm lazy. No worthless. No, I just mean it's sorry. Come on fucking punch him in his big Walter knows. Anyway, did you see that? She struck the child. Did you feel the breeze? You're awfully close. I know. I didn't touch you though. No, we got lazy. I think for a while. We just got just overrun by just life. Just go to work. You know, make make the money to pay the bills feed our faces. Make sure that this person gets their fix this thing. See what dramas on tick-tock. Yeah, watch a lot of tick-tock play a lot of games on your phone. Scruffy book. Anyways. Oh, I see how we roll over what you do. I'm in research mode constantly watch that's going off right now. I don't know. Shall we talk about it minds on silent that leaves you. I don't know how to put it on Charlotte and you're the tech savvy one of the two of us. You know what it to me watch off. As you can see she's still snarky. Okay, my point being that just in my let's just focus on this for a minute because the world revolves around it. Yes, would you say in this in the past even the past six months? Would you say that I have been much much more comfortable in my dominant role or made bigger strides in speaking to you? Yeah, and not even speaking to you in communicating what I want. Mm-hmm. Okay, I would say yes to that. And I would also say that potentially I picked up on that and I you mentioned it. Yeah, and I leveled up to I like wipe the cobwebs from my eyes and okay, let's fucking go. Yeah, right. Yeah, I would agree. So I think that yes to that. Yes is the answer. I like how we got away from me and back to you. I leveled you asked me the question totally fucking with you. Wait for this next one. Are you ready? Oh, yeah, you ready? I can't wait. Patience and irritability. Oh my. Chronic? Like breathing irritates her. My breathing irritates her. I said it one time and I said I didn't want you to not breathe. Yeah, just could you hold your breath for every 30 seconds? We had a conversation a week ago where we kind of broke through some things and hey, we don't really talk about this. So we need to talk about this, right? And we need to be open with this communication thing. We've anything we pounded down is the communication, right? And yet we lacked at it, right? But we opened that up and broke open those doors again and we're good. But what sparked it was something like what what is irritating you and she said you're breathing or something like that. But I loved that so much because it was there was no filter. There was no thinking about it. I didn't even think about it. It went straight from here to here and out like I couldn't even stopped it if I wanted to. Loved that. Okay, so patience and irritability. Chronic sleep deprivation from night sweats. You have mentioned that. Can cause patients to run thin in an FLR where the woman may set the emotional tone. This irritability can lead to more frequent conflicts if the partner doesn't understand the hormonal roots. Yes, look at that, right? And that's communication, right? Fuckin' hell, when did I get old? No, you're not getting old. You're fine. I don't wanna. God, you're so fine. What I sent him a shirt. Yeah, what I said. I sent him a shirt today that said I'm so sexy even life gets hard. I said buy it. Anyway, yeah, so I have been saying something about night sweats for some time. But mine are not anything that really interrupt my sleep. They sometimes do because I get so hot. I'm just sweating and I have to kick the blankets off. And then I turn the heat down because I think that everybody's hot. It's not just me. The whole bus is hot, right? And I wake up with icicles coming down my nose. It has not been that bad. But I don't know that it affects my sleep a whole lot. Like if it wakes me up, it wakes me up for a short amount of time. I wonder though, if it does wake you up, right? Because it takes you out of the sleep cycle. Now you have to start over again. So you are probably lacking in sleep from that breaking it up, I bet. And maybe that's why it's so hard for me to get up and go to the gym some days. Like especially when we get home at midnight. See, he laughs at me sometimes because it will be like 7 or 8 o'clock and I'm falling asleep on the couch watching TikTok. I'm so tired sometimes. But is it that you're just bored to tears of the things that you're watching? Well, maybe, but it's hard to say. Anyway, I couldn't watch it. Listen, I don't like to look at the stupid shit you look at on Facebook either. I'm learning about buses and diesel heaters and jeeps. I fucking am too. I am. I'm making Facebook friends. Oh, interesting. ChatGPTU, that's all the friend you need. Just kidding. That's really all I got. Anyways, beside you, you're all I need. He's fucking snappy today. I'm sorry. And sassy. Sassy pants. Changes in intimacy and physical power. Libido shifts. Okay, wait. So there's more. It says the physical symptoms of perimenopause often require a temporary renegotiation of the relationship's intimacy rules. Now, we do not really have any rules set. He just doesn't get laid. Well, we have some kind of unsaid rules. But I don't know that anything needs to change necessarily. Or maybe it does, I guess. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, we need to revisit that one. I don't know. I guess here's where I'm at. You know, as I start working out more, is that going to help regulate my hormones more? And will I get a little bit of a sex drive back? Do I just need to start reading erotic stories all the time? And then he just has to be there within the next 15 minutes before the libido or the whole sex drive drops? I don't know. There's a window. Yeah, it's a small one. Usually it's at 2 p.m. during the week when we're not together. But I think that we just kind of have to go. We have to play it by ear right now. And I think I do feel better now that I'm exercising more regularly. I think I was going to go down a whole different Avenue with this. And anyway, like what did you think you'd go down? I don't know. I think I had something in my brain that I was going to say, but it's just gone. Oh, I don't know. Maybe it will come back. Okay, libido shifts, fluctuating testosterone and estrogen can significantly, significantly lower sexual desire or make arousal take longer. I don't think it takes me a long time to become aroused. I think I can be aroused pretty easily. You just get interesting. Well, maybe not. No, no, maybe. Fine. I mean, like reading an erotic stories. See, but before it would take like one ES. Now it would maybe take two or three. Like a drunkard. My sex tolerance is high. What? That's okay. Let me ask you this. Yes. In the evening when it's time for bed, we have kind of a ritual, right? She gets in bed. I cover up real good, right? And then I do just a nice like light massage your whole body. Yeah, that makes me feel like I'm sinking into the bed. I want to just immediately conk out. Okay, that's what that does. I have no idea what that does because we never really talked about it. And I try to walk him along for me sharing my feelings of how it feels when he rubs me down every night. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's what we do. I do it kind of in a sensual way, but I don't mean it to be like foreplay or anything. I mean, it's just... I don't think that I find it arousing. Okay, but it is relaxing. Yes, like when you come up behind me in the morning and like do the boob thing. Every once in a while I get to do that. That's a little bit arousing. Is it? Yeah, I really like that motion. Okay. But at night, I think your touch is what calms me. Like it brings me... Like sometimes I've had a little too much caffeine during the day or something along those lines, right? And I think, you know, when... And I have told you this since we met, like the first time I hugged you, like the image that I get in my head of the best way to describe this is we're in the middle of a tornado and everything is like whirling around us, right? And then you touch me and everything just calms down. Like you are almost like what grounds me to some extent or your touch or whatever. And that's a big part of why like when we lived in the house, when you would come home, I would make sure that we hugged for at least 30 seconds. Sure. Not that I was timing it, but because that is like the amount of time it just takes for everything to kind of settle in and relax. But that is more of what that does. It like relaxes me and it's like it triggers something in my brain. Okay, it's time to go to sleep. It's time to relax, shut your brain down. It doesn't always work, but it always is better than before you did it. Okay. And then to that, I would like to say this, okay? And this is just hitting me right here, right now. That since we started... Breaking news. Yeah. Since we started that thing, that ritual, that nighttime, whatever we do, since we started that, I feel that you don't have 15 drastically different things to ask me and tell me and all the things. I think that for the most part, we go to bed with just a little back and forth, right? And not as much hectic as previous to doing that. What do you think about that? I would agree. I think that we still... Fascinating. I would think that... I think that we still do have... Sometimes there are nights where we still do have a lot of conversation. Like we can go to bed at 10 and we don't actually go to sleep till 11. Or sometimes we go to bed at 10. We're having conversation. I fall asleep at 10, 15 and he's still talking. And I'm still talking. I'm mid-sentence and... And that's okay. Oh, and by the way, your snoring is drastically decreased since working out. Do you think that has anything to do with quitting smoking? Yes, probably. I am a non-smoker for anybody that was keeping track. I know in July... What month are we in? February? July will be a year. Holy shit. But yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. Sorry. I think that's just an observation that I made. Yeah. And I think that we should keep doing that because I think it's good for both of us. It affects me too. Yeah. No, I know. Absolutely. Because you moan. I get to... No, you don't. I get to touch you. I get to feel your curves. I get to... But then I get to be the person that calms you. Yep. That is a fucking privilege. Right? And I take that pretty seriously. Yeah. Right? It's kind of fun time. Yeah. But it's more calming you down. Sorry. I like that. My hair is triggering the tism. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry if that offends anybody. I don't mean it to be offensive. But I seriously also on this same topic. Okay, you say what you're going to say. I'm just going to say because you're at the heightened thing right now. Everything is bothering you like my breathing. No, your breathing isn't bothering me today. No, but my hair just touches me a certain way. Sometimes. I don't know. I don't know how to explain how I feel. Sometimes things that normally didn't bother me just make me want to fucking rip my eyelashes out one at a time. Like, I don't know how else to explain how it makes me feel. And my only, you know, I went to the doctor probably almost a year ago to have my blood pressure checked because I had quit smoking, right? Yes. So it hasn't been a year because it was. Anyway, I went to the doctor. My blood pressure without smoking was two points above where it needed to be on the top number and they suggested that I continue with blood pressure medicine. I did for 90 days and now I quit taking it because I am exercising and I think two points is not, and I monitor it at home. I haven't recently, but it's been fine without the medicine. Maybe a dangerous game to play. I don't know. I also don't. How do you know your body? Yes, and I feel much better since we've been working out. But I mean, even just the conversation that I'm just having now, like I have all these thoughts in my brain and I'm sure it's ADD and I've heard that ADD can get worse the older you get. I will tell you if there's anything I can say with a hundred percent certainty, I don't want to end up like my giver of life. I can solidly say that you are not anything like. Yeah, there's a lot. You're giver of life. Yes. There's a lot of, a lot of things that I don't, things that I hope aren't genetic, but the whole perimetopause thing scares me a little bit. I sometimes feel like my hormones are way out of whack or sometimes like it seems like it's even more intense now. Like if there's negativity in the bus, I just draw it to me and nobody keep track of how many times I said like. That's okay. It drives me nuts. I think it's, I think it's, I hope anyways that it's helpful that we're talking about this like this. Yes. Right. It is. And I believe that you are being open about what you're feeling, how you're feeling and all that. I think it's, I think it's important for you to talk about it. Well, I'm appreciative that you just listen and you're understanding. And sometimes when I'm being a little hard on myself, you make an excuse for me. So I appreciate that. In those moments, you're more hard on yourself than you really need to be. Because no one's expecting ABC from you, you know? I know. So, but I feel like, I don't know. Sometimes I just feel like a big failure at things. And then other days I'm like, I'm kicking fucking ass today. That's the one right there. I know. I don't know how to harness that one all the time. So here's, let me just quickly, here's what Google AI suggests for for strategies. Yeah. Oh, I thought I wasn't supposed to say AI. I thought I was in trouble. No, no, you're good. Strategies for a female-led relationship dynamic. One, lead with education. Hence, the podcast. This and other things. Yes, a hundred percent. Get your information from all the different places. And then, like we say all the time, get your information from all the different places and what works for you. Yeah, we certainly are not. No. We're just talking about what works for us. Yeah, but it says use your leadership role to research and educate your partner about your symptoms so they don't take your mood shifts personally. And I think also, especially the last couple weeks, I have been very, I have tried to be very intentional about, like sometimes my text messages, I will send it and then I look at it and then I'm like, ooh, that was really bitchy. Like the PayPal card thing where I was like, well, you have all, and I did not mean it that way. You started with perfect. That's true. So I sensed a little disgust with yourself at the time, but I mean, what are you going to do? Perfect. So then I believe I followed that up with, I'm not trying to be bitchy. You did, but I understood. Adjust your routine. If brain fog is high, delegate more administrative tasks to your partner while maintaining final decision making and authority. Here's my problem. I can delegate. I just need him to do it exactly how I would do it. However. But I've gotten better. Right. Because I folded your laundry. You did. The other day. Yes. And you just thanked me, right? Yep. You probably fixed it a little bit. No, I didn't. Oh. Nope. Well, there you go. Look at you letting loose. I know. Woo! Next thing you know, you'll be doing the dishes. Maybe. Maybe. One can hope. Maybe. I've done the dishes. Wait a minute. When? I did. I just did them the other day. Literally. Nuh-uh. I did a sink floor. Remember? Because we had to lift the sink up to get the jug out. Those dishes. Just before that. I don't want to say how long those dishes had been in there. Anyways, because I just did them. I think you were at your daughter's. Weird. I'm never there. Shocker, right? Umbilical cord. Is it still there? No, we're sharing custody. She said she gets me on the weekends. You get me during the week. You think we're kidding? That is not. Is she serious? That is exactly what's happening. Not all the time. Nope. Quite often. Yeah. She just found out her dog has diabetes. I have to be supportive. Okay. I think, I don't know. Listen, I do it for both girls. Yeah. Anyway, prioritize self-care as a command. Frame your need for sleep and self-care as a priority for the benefit or for the health, priority for the health of the relationship leadership. I do. Go ahead. I had a thought. No, go. No, please. Go ahead. It's gone. Listen, just roll with it. Okay. I wonder how wrote the book of love. Huh? Yes, exactly. God, I fucking love doing this. I wonder where if there's a gray line of some sort between like a perimenopause and depression. Do those do those things intertwine? I will tell you one spark the other. I will tell you. Yeah, it could. I will tell you from somebody who was literally on antidepressants for their entire life from the age of 14. Until me. Listen, you can't take all the credit. Just take that credit. I don't think it's you. I think it's our relationship. Yes. Yes. Anyways. Which you suggested. I'm sorry. Anyway, why would you do this to me when you know? Did you not see the one up here? It says communicate and listen. No. Okay. I'm sorry, but I will say some and even I have been on them with you that winter that we were in the apartment. I was way bad. Well. I'm not. That had to do with the winter. So winter blues here in Minnesota. And I was mad that we weren't gone. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. And then I wasn't around quite a bit. Yep. So you're stuck in this apartment. Yep. And there's no reason we don't have to discuss why. I'm just saying that. Yes, there was. It was circumstantial. I think. Yeah. It wasn't chemical circumstance. Yes, because I was on them and then I met you and then I went to college or whatever. I got off of them and then I went back on them and I think I was only on them until we were full-time in the camper. And then I think I went off of them again, whatever it is. Because we were around each other 24 7 and we've not stopped for years. Yes, and I've only told him one time in the entirety of our relationship that is breathing aggravated me. So we're doing good. We're doing all right. We're doing. But I will tell you that I don't feel now like I felt then you know what I'm saying? Like it feels different for me. Does that mean it feels different for everyone? No, I don't necessarily feel sad or depressed. I mean, there's times where like my age really scares me and sometimes I'm like, oh my God, I'm going to die. Well, I'm not I'm in my 40s. Fuck sakes. I'm not. Yeah, I'm not 90, right? Yeah, I don't have a date of death Steve. We'll have to get together and talk about when I can schedule that. No, just kidding. Best not to know. No, it is, but I think it's just like I feel, I think the biggest thing I feel is I feel terrible that I didn't treat my body better. You know what I mean? And I don't necessarily feel, I don't feel depressed. If I was, if I think if I was depressed personally, I would not get up and go to the gym in the morning. Oh, a hundred percent. And I agree. I think they're separate. Right now when I'm fighting the hormonal part of it, I think is like, you know, when the, when I went to the doctor, I think this was supposed to be part of my whole thing. I said something about, you know, my knees and my hips have really been kind of achy and she said, oh, how old are you? I'm like, so I will say this. Salt wound. Yeah, I will say this, you know, another thing it says after the prior prioritized self-care as as a command, it says seek support hormone replacement therapy. I will not. That's touchy, huh? No, I don't know that I will ever do anything. I feel like my body. For anyone, that could be a touchy thing. Yeah, I'm not saying nobody should do it. I just don't know if the side effects, again, I know nothing about it. I know nothing about it. I know that I don't like to take pills and I know that's stupid as someone who takes Advil like it's candy once a month, but I don't know like my blood pressure medicine. I just didn't want to take it and the first time I was on my blood pressure medicine though, when I was smoking, I felt so much better when I took it. I did not notice a difference at all. Now that doesn't mean that it's not benefiting me. I understand that and I understand that I sound a little woo-woo-y and that's not my intention. I am very much a firm believer though of listening to my body. Yep, and I feel like my body has always given me enough warning when something is wrong. You know what I mean? And I have faith that if something was awry, it would give me a warning signal in enough time to seek help. Do I think that that's a little bit naive? Like obviously there are heart attacks called Widowmakers and things like that. I understand the consequences of my decisions when I say that but I just believe that us working out is going to help a ton. I do think my anxiety is a little bit worse, but I don't know that I need to take a medicine for that. Anyway, we got way off track. I have no interest in hormone therapy. That doesn't mean I never will. That doesn't mean I won't do research on it. I just choose not to necessarily discuss that. Sure. I will not be doing it. Okay. I don't think. Yeah. And I don't know. Oh, look, they even use emotional roller coaster. I use the, what did I say? The Hot Mess Express. Yes. Same, same. Maybe I've been going through this since we started the podcast. Maybe. Interesting though. I don't know. I will tell, I will say this though as far as me saying I don't like to take pills. I do take fish oil pills and I take two of them a day and I will tell you that when I don't take them, I can tell a difference. The brain fog is ridiculous. It's terrible. I feel much better when I take them and it also cut one of my cholesterol numbers. I don't know which one it was specifically because I also have high cholesterol. Shocker. It cut it in half. It was literally three something and it cut it. It was 145 on my last blood work. So and the only thing that's changed is my. But but that's not like a pharmaceutical. No, it's a supplement. But so it's a supplement. Yep. So that's different than being hopped up on a lot of pharmaceuticals and I'm you know, I'm not saying one way or the other on that. I my personal thing is I don't want to be on a bunch of pills, but I understand the necessity for it for some people and and I understand you can just close that. Okay, I understand that some people are cool with that and that's fine to not judging. We listen and we don't judge. No, there will be no judging. No, and and that's the that's the biggest thing too. It's not the biggest thing but that is one of the reasons that I enjoy talking to people about the relationship dynamics, right? Like that was a big part of why I loved the campground. Yeah, I fuck the owners and I will never go back but we met some phenomenal people and it was so fun to meet people when they would come on the weekends and just I could just hear about their experiences and learn, you know, when the neighbors were there and we used to get to sit on their deck and just talk about like I really love hearing about what type of life people enjoy living and why they enjoy it and what works for them. It's not because I you know, it might not be for me this lifestyle might not be for you. Right, but you don't you don't know if it's of any interest. You don't know till you try it. Right a hundred percent and if anyone has anything to add to the perimetopause chit chat. I know for a while a couple years few years ago. I was getting a lot of emails or not a lot. I got a few emails about how this dynamic can work once there is no drive for the PIV or that type of intimacy and we could do a whole we could probably do another episode or whatever on just the intimacy aspect and what intimacy can look like like a difference the different, you know, this is just a part one. I think yeah, we're going to be talking about this often on and in the future if anybody has anything that they want me specifically to address if we were to do a second part to this you can reach me by email or any of my social media inboxes or any of those things or my website all that if you do it on buzzsprout and do the fan mail just know I cannot respond to you. But we will respond probably in an episode. Yep. I think we will keep doing those because I think it's kind of cool that we can read it. Sometimes they make me giggle but I don't have anything else to add. I mean, is there anything else that I don't think so. I think that this relationship is far beyond a PIV type relationship, which is interesting because when we started this we had talked about how sometimes we needed to we needed to plug in to connect and I think that because I was away more I bet. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, because you were doing tile the distance. Yeah, so we had to reconnect that way. No, we're fucking together all I wouldn't have it any other way when either I really like being with him. Ask me tomorrow, but we don't I probably shouldn't breathe. That's going to be the new thing. Yeah, it's my fucking podcast and your breathing aggravates me. There's the opener. Stop breathing. All I see is you. I don't know. Is there anything else that you can think of? I don't know but this will be continued. I'm sure because we'll come across things and emails will come in maybe or comments on TikTok and Twitter and stuff and yeah, we can we can revisit at a later date. Absolutely. I think this is a valid topic. This was a fun one to do. Yeah to talk about my crazy hormones. Just kidding. Not crazy. I didn't say I was crazy. I said my hormones are crazy. All your hormones are crazy. Fucking crazy. If you're crazy then our crazies match. So how's that? Yeah, that's true. The Deadpool reference. Are we done then? I think we might be. I think we might have exhausted it. We're off the rails. Yeah. Thank you all for listening. I hope you enjoyed this episode as much as we did recording it. It was fun. I love when you make me laugh. One of my gifts I get to give. Have a fantastic week. Be good human beings. Show grace. Be kind. I love you all.

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