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Empowering Women's Health: Holistic Approaches with Dr. Shelby Entner

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Ever wonder how you can take control of your health with a holistic approach? Join us as we sit down with Dr. Shelby Entner, a naturopathic physician with 22 years under her belt and the visionary behind Vero Health Naturopathic Care. Learn why the name "Vero," meaning "true" in Italian, is a perfect representation of Dr. Entner's commitment to authentic and effective healthcare, particularly for women navigating the complexities of different life stages. Dr. Entner's insights will empower you with practical advice on hormone imbalances, nourishing your body, and understanding the critical role of sleep.

Imagine starting your day with intention and ending it with a calming bedtime routine. In this episode, we unravel the benefits of morning routines and intermittent fasting, especially for women in their menopausal stage. Discover why checking your phone first thing in the morning might spike your cortisol levels, setting off a chain reaction of stress. Dr. Entner shares invaluable tips on how disrupted eating patterns affect your sleep and overall health, emphasizing the importance of honouring your body's unique needs without judgment.

This episode goes beyond typical health advice by exploring the transformative power of self-care and positive affirmations. Dive into the world of intravenous therapy and its role in boosting energy and well-being with personalized nutrient infusions. We also shed light on the evolving healthcare landscape, where functional and naturopathic medicine are gaining traction. Featuring communal insights and a blend of conventional and alternative practices, Dr. Entner provides a hopeful vision for a more integrative and caring health system. Tune in for an episode rich with wisdom and actionable steps to transform your approach to health and well-being.

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QiPro Sam:

Hello, hello, hello, hello. Here we go for a very special podcast from Q. Today I have a special guest and we're talking about so many exciting things. We're going to touch on the words nourish routine, sleep routine, what happens at 3am and 5am and what is the glass ceiling that we women are stuck under and what are the things we can do to make ourselves stronger. We are stepping in to the time of women. The future is female.

QiPro Sam:

You've heard me say this before, and the guest I have with me today is a special friend. We've worked together for many, many, many years. I love her approach to life and her holistic approach to how we become whole, how we become healthier and how we lead more productive lives. She's one of the most gentle people I know. Her voice is calm, it's reassuring, her knowledge is incredibly expansive. She knows everything. I'm so excited that we get to have this conversation today.

QiPro Sam:

So how about we dive right in? I just want to give people a place to go to get information. I want them to enjoy learning about Qi and how it's easy to learn about it and affect change in your own life. So Qi Pro is here for the curious seekers and for the professionals looking to get ahead. It's about mind. I want to empower people with information, because the one thing that can't be taken from you is your knowledge. Okay, guys, so let's dive right in. I want you to meet my special guest today, so I'm going to introduce you to someone I really love, professionally and privately, and I've known her for many, many, many years, which is giving away my age, but I want to just dive right in. Who is sitting with me today?

Dr Shelby Entner:

Please say hello Hi, sam. My name is Dr Shelby Entner. I'm a naturopathic physician of 22 years and I'm a resident of the beautiful Okanagan. I own Vero Health Naturopathic physician of 22 years and I'm a resident of the beautiful Okanagan. I own Vero Health Naturopathic Care in Vernon BC.

QiPro Sam:

Great introduction. I was going to ask you right off the jump at me can you remind me and share the lovely story? What does Vero mean? Vero Health, because it's a very unique name. I've always loved your business name.

Dr Shelby Entner:

Thank you, you helped me with it name. I've always loved your business name. Thank you, you helped me with it. It means true health in Italian, and we spent quite a few days trying to figure out a good name for the business after I went through a big upheaval in my previous practice, so it really feels like a simple term, but it really represents what we're trying to find, which is not just physical wellness, but true wellness, like how do we get to the root of, of how we stay well?

QiPro Sam:

Yes, thank you for that. I do remember it was a little bit of a trick question. I do remember working with the team that were helping you with the design of that and, first of all, anything Italian is good by me. Yes, espresso, I'm in. But seriousness though, I think it's such a great name for you. I remember when the designing people came up with that and I was like, oh my God, that is Shelby so much and it just resonates. So if anyone hasn't checked you out yet, they should definitely check out Vero Health, because what you offer is an amazing service there. Do you cater to women or to both? Do you cater to everyone, or what is your?

Dr Shelby Entner:

I'd say women have always been my predominant people. I think women are usually a little more aware of their health, maybe a little bit more proactive in taking care of themselves. And then over the years I've had the husbands, the brothers, the children, so we see quite a wide range of people, but I would still say probably 70% of my practice is women's health.

QiPro Sam:

And I love that for you, shelby.

QiPro Sam:

I think it's such a good fit for you because I know you professionally and personally.

QiPro Sam:

I think it's a great fit for you and I'm so proud of you for the business you've built. And I'm particularly excited because one of anyone that's been following following me for a while knows that I've been touting the future is female, and this is one of the reasons I wanted to speak with you and have you on my show today was because I know that we're moving into a 20 year period of time where the energy is moving into more feminine energy. So it's up to us women to step up and lead, and I was thinking of all the ways you empower women and I thought that would be a great connection because I'm noticing with my a lot of my female clients that they're making massive changes in their lives, and they're also my age, which we're going to call a wise age. They're also my age, which we're going to call a wise age, which means we're going through pre menopause menopause and post menopause, I thought if I'm noticing metaphysically that many people are struggling, are you noticing that in the health world?

QiPro Sam:

Are women coming to a new realization in their health?

Dr Shelby Entner:

Oh, absolutely. I think you just need to check out podcasts like yourself, sam and people on Instagram. There's a huge, huge demand for information. I think a lot of women are realizing that what they witnessed their mothers and grandmothers go through with hormone imbalances was just terrible and unnecessary, and there's so much information out there now that they can reach for. Where I think a lot of times we need help is cutting through the noise and figuring out what suits us as an individual, but really absolutely lots of women empowered by what they're hearing, what their friends are talking about. It's kind of coming out of the closet with how we speak about our hormones, especially.

QiPro Sam:

So huge changes, huge changes, yeah, and I've noticed that I mean, I didn't really understand everything that was going on for me, but I thought there was such this fabulous parallel and I really encourage everyone because I like what you just to speak with you actually and to follow you, to find you on Instagram, to follow you and to hear the voice that you have there, because it's it's amazing and I love the humor you bring as well, because we yes, oh, and that's why we get along, because I'm the same way. But what I'm noticing is, um, it's very easy to go to google I, I do it myself but then, like you say, you get lost in the noise. It's hard to know which voice. There's a lot of good voices out there, but there's a lot of untrained voices out there.

QiPro Sam:

So I highly recommend listener, as you're hearing this, whether you're on your walk, sitting on your couch, having a quiet moment check out Vero Health, because you have correct information, and it concerns me when women are going through major changes in their life and they get the wrong information. Because it's a quick fix, it's a pill, it's a. Eat this, do this, do that, restrict this and your life will be great. It's great you. It's a more well-rounded, holistic approach thanks, sam.

Dr Shelby Entner:

Yeah, yeah, I appreciate that. I I really believe, when we talk about our health, we do need to speak about all those different areas. It's not just here you're in menopause, so therefore you need this drug. It's really more complicated than that. All the different things that have been happening in your health are foundation pieces that will make that transition sometimes easier but sometimes harder. So when we're looking just at the hormone side of things, it's much deeper than just your ovaries are working or they've retired.

QiPro Sam:

Much deeper than just your ovaries are working or they've retired so Totally and everything. Every time we speak, I just have this parallel mind, parallel universe with you, shelby, because a lot of women are coming to me this year. It's it's year of the dragon, something called, but it's so. 2024 is this dragon year, but 2024 is also a year of massive change. It's a 20-year shift in direction and we're going from a time where women couldn't always get their voice out and weren't to say what they want to say, but also couldn't be heard. That's all shifting now, which is why I'm very in favor of female health professionals.

QiPro Sam:

Nothing against the men, this is not anti-men but we have a voice that needs to be heard by other women, and I'm noticing women are struggling with. They want to make massive changes in their personal life, in their career, and that's a lot, and I was wondering so I know how I'm approaching that from the metaphysics side how I help guide them. Can you think and this is firing at you without any warning, so I apologize for that but can you think of when someone walks in the door and things are overwhelming and they're like, oh my God, what are the first steps? Or maybe what is a step they can do for themselves before they come unto you the first time to help a woman that's overwhelmed.

Dr Shelby Entner:

Yeah, I think we always want to look at how we can prioritize maybe some small steps which, when we're tired, when we're feeling burned out, can feel quite overwhelming. So my approach is always just to make it as simple as possible and impactful, so that you feel empowered but you also feel like what you're doing is making a difference. So I think one of the first things I look at is really just honoring how we're feeding our bodies, like we're not here to make any food bad or good. It's really without judgment. The noise around what kind of food to eat is incredibly overwhelming for people. So I always just think about nourishing yourself.

Dr Shelby Entner:

So it could be that simple moment of taking five minutes in the morning, putting your phone down and drinking your cup of tea and looking out the window. Or maybe you make an effort to bring something for lunch instead of just sitting at your desk and powering through your breaks. Simplistic way with food is, to me, a great starting point. And the other one, which is trickier, is usually sleep. You know we really are good at skipping sleep because we're busy. We have, you know, a TV show that we're really into and we really want to watch the next episode rather than going to bed. We're really good at almost gifting ourselves at less sleep a moment because we're thinking it's like a privilege or a gift, but it actually usually bites us in the butt.

QiPro Sam:

So getting your sleep, oh my God, I'm a little bit scared right now, I know. Cause I feel like I feel like I know how my clients feel now, Cause everything you said just was I felt like if you had a camera in my house are you watching me, shelby?

Dr Shelby Entner:

because this is everything I'm doing wrong because I couldn't.

QiPro Sam:

I couldn't agree more, and the whole without judgment. Oh my god, there is so much judgment out there and we must do. I really encourage everyone to do walk their own path. So I've been really pushing that all this year and I made some notes here because I loved two things. I want to come back to sleep routine in a second. The first one you said about the words nourish and well, nourish and routine. I couldn't agree more. A great example Friday, very busy day, had a lot on my plate.

QiPro Sam:

I powered through lunch. Now, I've been really good at not doing that, but I just did. I went and got lunch from a, from a place I can get food that sounds awful. Where I was that day has a canteen and I went and got food from the canteen and brought it back to my desk. I didn't need it. I put it in the fridge and I thought I'll get to that.

QiPro Sam:

Seven o'clock I suddenly thought, oh my God, I haven't eaten and my brain wasn't functioning. I was tired, I was grouchy, I was grumpy. Now, grant, I recognized it and I laughed at myself. But it was so easy to do that because I thought I'd be more productive. Now, as I look back at Friday. Here we are Sunday. I look back at Friday. I could have been more productive. There's things I could have should have done, and I don't like the word should, but I should have done them but I wasn't at. I don't like the word should, but I should have done them, but I wasn't at, I wasn't running with the right fuel. So I love that reminder, because we do need to nourish ourselves, you know, food, wise, spiritual, everything and honor what we need.

Dr Shelby Entner:

And I knew I was hungry.

QiPro Sam:

I walked to the cafeteria and I got food, but I didn't eat it because I was too busy, which is a bit egocentric.

Dr Shelby Entner:

Actually, I'm not too busy to eat um yeah, and I think, just when we take that judgment away from it like it's a pattern that you've been productive in in the past. So perhaps it's just a chance now to reevaluate it and go okay, I used to do that and this is how I felt. So I want to feel a different way, so I'm going to need to do something different. Well, if we want, change.

QiPro Sam:

We have to change right. Yeah, exactly yes, and the one of the reasons I wanted to speak with you in September was because the podcast before this I was talking about the month of September and it's all about setting new routines. This month it's rooster month in the metaphysical calendar and it's about setting new routines and creating new habits, which is not easy. It takes 30 days. I researched as it takes 30 days to set a habit, which is not easy. It takes 30 days. I researched as it takes 30 days to set a habit. But the one thing I have found, I have done and you spoke to it here was the morning routine. So I actually get up really early, it's dark out and I sit with my coffee and listen to my little meditation app, and sometimes I'm just I daydream, I'm not even listening to it, but I am subliminally listening to it, right, and I have that quiet moment. No social media, nothing, and I really encourage everyone to do that. So to hear you say that as well is wonderful, because I think it's a huge.

Dr Shelby Entner:

I think how you start your day, we have a choice how we start our day, right yes, I think if you roll over in bed and just start scrolling your phone and checking your emails, oh, the energy of that's just oh so much like overwhelmed, Like you're starting your day in overwhelm. So biologically in our world it's like okay, well, your cortisol just went boop through the roof and where does it go from there.

Dr Shelby Entner:

So that's not a great way to get a day started, a week started, and if you layer that with other things that are also causing that cortisol to surge, it's just exhausting.

QiPro Sam:

So totally so. I mean, I think we can both agree. One thing we'd love our listeners to do today is to just evaluate morning routine, just start your morning routine differently, and I do want to talk about sleep. But seeing as we're on morning routine, a lot of clients that are coming to me this year are talking about the fasting, the fasting for your body type and the whole thing, and I I am. I used to in my younger years, I would younger years, I would graze all day, and I don't actually do that Now. I do have a smaller eating window, but I'm curious because I've never actually asked you this question what do you think about? You know, the eating windows, the fasting, for let's stay with women, women of our age, of the menopausal era. I'm going to call it yeah.

Dr Shelby Entner:

Yeah, I think there's some fascinating research out there and there's obviously some very powerful voices in social media and, yeah, books and podcasts and things like that. I feel like it can go both ways. It really can. I see patients where they intermittent fast and it really is successful for them. They lose the weight, they feel like they're getting their blood sugar better controlled. We do a lot of fasting, insulin level testing, so we see insulin levels improve, which is kind of like a pre-pre-diabetes. But then the other side of that is people who come in that are already feeling very overwhelmed, very restricted, very high cortisol is how I define it, and all that you've done with restricted eating is essentially told your body well, we're not going to feed you today, so it throws the blood sugar into a spiral. I think the cortisol then signals so much to pull more glucose out of the liver, like there's a whole biomechanical piece here and fasting backfires for some people.

Dr Shelby Entner:

So I think it's again not one size fits all. I really think you have to look at the individual and understand how your body's working. So my takeaway usually for intermittent fasting is I love it when people stop eating after dinner.

Dr Shelby Entner:

I think that's a cultural thing where we need a snack, whether it's an emotional snack or actually truly a hunger that you're feeling. And again, I think that goes back to the conversation of how did you nourish your body all during the day. So if you skipped meals and you're really hungry at dinner, you're going to eat a whole bunch of food and then your blood sugar is going to crash. So you're probably looking for that bowl of cereal or that cookie at 9.30. So that's typically, if we can cut that eating out at night, that will make a huge difference and that's kind of a natural fasting.

QiPro Sam:

Yeah, I think that's phenomenal advice, because I do agree. What I love, the one thing you and I both agree on from different, coming from different professions is that for people to trust themselves, trust their body and and learn learn about themselves and what they need. The one thing I learned to cut out was was the nighttime snack, so I would. I would be terrible at skipping meals, I'd forget to eat. Was the nighttime snack, so I would be terrible at skipping meals, I'd forget to eat. And then, as I'm making a healthy dinner, I'd be eating cookies and crackers because I'm so hungry. So then the healthy dinner's ready and I would eat a piece of it and it goes in the fridge for tomorrow because I'm too full. And you're right, three hours later I'm reaching for snacks again.

Dr Shelby Entner:

Yeah, it's like a complete self-sabotage. Oh, it's hard, it really is yeah, but I agree with.

QiPro Sam:

I think sleep is a big issue I think with. But I've noticed with my clients of of the menopausal age, and it doesn't matter how good I make their feng shui, it doesn't matter what I look at in their astrology chart the eating I've noticed is what's causing most of the issues. So, and it's not my, my background to advise on that, which is why I wanted you here. Yeah, no, thank you, your voice.

Dr Shelby Entner:

Yeah, absolutely. We know that one to 3 AM wake up is usually the liver having a chat with us.

QiPro Sam:

So yeah, that's classic Chinese medicine.

Dr Shelby Entner:

And yeah, in our world we look at that and say well, you know, are you having alcohol with dinner? Are you eating something sweet in the evening? Because those are often the moments when your body, metabolically, is trying to deal with those things. So it's waking you up, and if you're already dealing with other issues, like hot flashes, or the guy next to you is snoring like a freight train, you know you're going to have a harder time getting back to sleep, but it might be that last kick that just keeps you awake for the rest of the evening. So it's, it's tricky. There's lots of layers that go into sleep disruptions.

QiPro Sam:

There is and I love I was going to touch on. I was going to add to the hours that you brought up. So you were saying one to three is classic with the liver, right? So metaphysically, we attach body parts to time. The clock is attached to the 12 animals, the seasons, all sorts of things.

QiPro Sam:

3am is the liver and we look at that as issues with the liver but also anxiety. So that's why I put money on it. Everyone wakes up with the oh my God, I don't have enough of this, I'm not making enough money, my relationship's bad, like it's all the bad things. We don't wake up thinking, oh, I'm going to paint a new picture in the morning and read a great book. Tomorrow's going to be amazing, yes, tomorrow's going to be just fabulous. So we relate that to the liver. But the other thing we relate so at 5am.

QiPro Sam:

For a while I was waking up at 5am and I couldn't figure out why, or just before I was. I don't mind getting up at 5am, but I'm like why am I waking up at 5am? I felt like. So I talked with my TCM at the time and she's quite funny. She pushes back, she goes. Well, sam, what do you think 5am means. And I said Well, metaphysically, we would attach that to the intestines and the stomach. So it's digestion. I said it's something I'm eating or not eating? And she said, exactly, she goes, your body's waking you up because it's hungry. You haven't had enough protein. And I said but when I wake up I'm not hungry. She says you may not be, but your body is.

QiPro Sam:

But she gave me a few simple tricks and this is just me, so I'm not a doctor here. She said you know, before you go to bed, if you've had not a great day, have some protein, like a tablespoon of peanut butter if you're vegetarian, a little bit of meat if you're not. So I started playing with that. Oh my God, what a difference. And I've now increased my protein through the day. I don't have to do that at night. I don't wake up anymore. Oh, it's so good, sam, I know so. Are you noticing? So that was just me and my body. But are you noticing protein as women as we age?

Dr Shelby Entner:

do we need more protein? Do you think in the in the body? I think we always need protein. I think we need it at any age. I don't think menopause, specifically, is that much more influential. I think we've, as a culture, been very protein deficient and you know we see extremes of that now, of course, because everybody has an opinion on Instagram, so people are trying to and you know we see extremes of that now, of course, because everybody has an opinion on Instagram, so people are trying to eat, you know, 200 grams of protein in a day, which is just ridiculous. But I do believe, as women, we have always been more grazers, you know, as mothers as working women.

Dr Shelby Entner:

You know you literally just kind of grab and go as you get your day started, working women. You know you literally just kind of grab and go as you get your day started, and it's very seldom usually like a piece of meat or a handful of nuts. It's usually a cracker or some sort of thing that the kid left on the plate, you know the leftover noodles or something. So it's. I think it's a protein deficiency globally for women. But absolutely, and I think, as we age, we also need to really consider our muscle mass. So, as we're thinking about strength and being able to get off the floor and carry the heavy bags up to the house, those are things that, as women, we've been more fixated on our weight and our thinness than our strength. So I think that's also shifting. Women are becoming more aware of wanting to be strong in all ways, you know, whether that's emotionally or physically. So so, yes, I think protein is important for us at any age of life.

QiPro Sam:

I love that explanation. Thank you for rounding it out Because, again, like I was just sharing my experience, but I've just and I was primarily vegetarian, so I have switched a little bit and it's it has. That was for me, it helped and I've noticed there was a key word you said just now strength. Women are focusing on their strength more and I love that because it ties in with metaphysics. 2024 starts this, 20 years, and it's called Lee L-I and Lee is the what we call the middle daughter. So she's not the young teenager flicking her hair, chewing gum girl. She's not mom who's kind of like everyone, behave and sit down and be quiet. She's in the middle, saying I'm young enough, I'm mature enough, I'm strong enough, and that is really a description of her. So you just use that word strength. This conversation is so on point for where we are, and I encourage women to stand in their strength, which is not necessarily a size two right or four, or six, or eight or 10, whatever. Forget the bloody number. Forget the bloody number.

Dr Shelby Entner:

Great, I like to brag how much I can push on a sled. I can push like 250 pounds and I'm like, oh, look at me, go at me, go. But you know I skipped my workout this morning, sam. So, yes, but those are gonna take the yin and the yang in there.

QiPro Sam:

I know those are, those are just tuning in. My first words off camera were um, how would you just think Costco? And you're like well, that's okay, I only went for a short walk this morning because I didn't feel like a long one, which I think again is what we're both encouraging women to do to honor what they're feeling in the moment.

QiPro Sam:

Forget what we should be doing. What do you feel like? And, yes, it could be a slippery slope if you always feel like not doing anything, but I trust people enough to know that you know when it when it's time to not do something and when it's time where you're just um taking advantage and hiding behind Netflix.

Dr Shelby Entner:

yeah, yeah, that's very true, we need to rest. I think our culture is, uh, finally honoring that as well, that we don't need to always be doing something.

QiPro Sam:

But there's there's a fine line there yeah, I, I encourage people being present, being still, and it was something I learned as I was going through my separation. I had a very good friend who would say you know, I would say, well, I'm not doing anything, I just spent all day just reading my book, or I did do a binge on a Netflix. And he was like okay, well, you needed to do that today. And I'm like, I actually did and I didn't do it. The next day I was off and doing my thing again. So I want to, you know, encourage everyone listening that if you have a day where you're thinking I just can't do this today, it's okay.

QiPro Sam:

Absolutely it's totally okay yeah.

Dr Shelby Entner:

I agree.

QiPro Sam:

Thinking about the sleep routine. So, from a metaphysics point of view, I encourage clients to have no and I understand this isn't for everyone but to have a very calm bedroom. So usually that means no electronics, which is no TV. I really like no TV, if we can. No iPhone, no, nothing like that. Just your books, your bedstand, your partner by yourself, it doesn't matter. So those are things I sort of encourage people to do and keep calm colors in their bedroom. Everything should be simple, smooth shapes and softness. Is there one thing that stands out as I'm speaking? That is a good sleep routine thing for you, because that you could add, so a takeaway for them um, I think there's always a few things that can be great.

Dr Shelby Entner:

I love all of that. I really believe your bedroom should be like a little cave so you're just in there to get cozy and get to sleep. Bedtime routine I don't know. I think it depends on the type of day you've had. Like, if you've had a real go-go moment, we typically like turn off the tv, rush into the bathroom, take the makeup off, brush the teeth and then climb into bed and think that you should just close your eyes and fall asleep. And it doesn't happen. That's usually when your subconscious is like oh, finally, like I got to tell you a few things that you forgot today.

Dr Shelby Entner:

So if there's some way that you can create like a 10 or even five minute routine at night where you just let your subconscious chat, I call it a brain dump. I sometimes will ask people to get a pen and paper and just write out what's coming out Like it's not going to be maybe brilliance or anything that feels like it's urgent, but it just allows you to kind it unload, if you will, because you're usually keeping yourself so busy, you don't take those quiet moments. So, like you mentioned your morning routine where you're getting up and you're trying to have some quiet, I think we need to do the opposite end of the day and most of us fall asleep reading a book or watching TV. So again, that waking up with that busy mind will will usually get worse if we don't brain dump at night. Brain dump.

QiPro Sam:

I love that.

Dr Shelby Entner:

What a good hashtag brain dump.

QiPro Sam:

I love that. That is good because we do go to bed. So I'm a big believer something that Bruce Lee, his philosophy, the martial artist Bruce Lee lee. There's a quote and I'm probably going to bastardize it right now, but it's something to the effect of um, be careful how you speak to yourself, the body is listening. It's why they call it spelling. So I always and I and I catch myself like, and so there's two things here we were talking about.

QiPro Sam:

When I wake up, gratefulness, right, I look out. I'm lucky to have a beautiful view from my bedroom window and I look out and I always welcome hello sunrise, or hello stars, or hello whatever I see. Good to see you or something like that child here. Good night moon, because I think there's a very sweet book, you know. Thank, yeah, thank you for thank you for a great day today, thank you for my lovely cup of coffee today, thank you for whatever it was I did and I and it's difficult at first because it felt silly, now some people could do it quietly I feel I'm better when I brain dump out, when I have to say I have to say that. So I would encourage whether it's writing it down, like you were saying or saying it in your mind. But I always encourage say it out loud. I feel like when we get things out of us it's better. So the positive is to say it out loud and acknowledge but bad things. Something just came to mind. I'm going to bring this in. And it's very good.

QiPro Sam:

In the height of my separation, when things were really tough, I remember driving down from the ski hill one day and I had all these fears and they were just building and it was all the. You can't do this. You can't make it by yourself. You know every. There was every roadblock imagined and I realized I was putting them there. So here I am, driving down an icy, slick road, crying my eyes out, almost yelling at the car. You know all the. I said actually the negatives which people tell you not to do. But I said you can't do this alone. You're, you're ugly, you're. You can't get a job, you can't do. I had everything that was bottled up inside. It was like vomiting. I got it out of me, out of me, and then I was able to say the positive things. So if you're listening right now and you've got some of those words creeping up the back of your mind. Just say it out loud and get it gone, because we are capable, we are strong, right and we are going to do this. But I love the brain dump, because I was doing a verbal dump that time. Yeah, both work, both work, both work.

QiPro Sam:

Now, the important note I want to jump in with here is that I want to remind you what Bruce Lee said Be careful what you say. Your body is listening. So when you give gratitude out, your body is hearing that and it's a positive connection with your body. But when you give gratitude out, your body is hearing that and it's a positive connection with your body. But when you give the negatives out, when you speak only about I can't do this, I can't do my job. Today, my relationship is broken, I'm overweight, I'm this, I'm that the body listens and says, okay, you've just commanded me to do something and I will commanded me to do something and I will.

QiPro Sam:

So I ask you to be careful how you speak to yourself.

QiPro Sam:

Your words matter. Now, when I did my dump that day down from the ski hill yes, those were negative words, but you have to understand I was at rock bottom, I was in a very dark place and I knew I had to get those words out. I never speak to myself on a daily basis like that, but that was a point where I was at break point. So I don't encourage you to say negatives to yourself out loud. You'll know when to do a verbal vomit like I did. And, trust me, once it's out, it's out and you will be forever different and that will be your starting point to speak positively, speak with a voice of what you can do, what you can achieve, what you will achieve, actually what you are achieving. Keep in the present you are doing marvelously.

QiPro Sam:

Now let's get back to Shelby. I'm going to switch gears just a second, because I remember there was something you were doing in your practice. And again I'm thinking of the women that have come to me that are struggling and, like I said, I can set up feng shui, I can set up the home to support, I can tell them what's occurring in their astrology, but I'm not a TCM, which is why I love my connection with you and I know you're not a TCM, but your practice is very broad. Right, you were doing something one day with infusions, I think it was.

Dr Shelby Entner:

Oh, yeah, yeah, Can you talk about vitamin cocktails?

QiPro Sam:

Yeah, would you. Oh cocktail, you had me at cocktail Shelby. I know it's an easy sell, would you? Because I think what we're both agreeing, what we nourish ourselves with spiritually and physically, could you expand on that a little bit, because I think it's something really useful for women out there.

Dr Shelby Entner:

Oh, absolutely so. Intravenous therapy has been around for decades in naturopathic and functional medicine and it's essentially a tool that I use when I want to help, not speed things along, but I visualize it as almost like we're climbing a set of stairs and the staircase is very long and we can kind of hop up the stairs a little quicker when we're using intravenous, because it's a passive way to receive, and I think, as well as women and men, when you offer something that doesn't require you doing something, there's just an energy behind that that also feels really like a gift to yourself. So intravenous is a way that we're allowing nutrients to be taken into the body by putting it directly into the bloodstream. So there's a lot of different IVs out there that are popular and there's some crazy things that are done in places like Vegas, where you go for your hangover IV. But what we're doing is more nutrient IVs. So we're using generally vitamins like B vitamins, vitamin C, calcium, magnesium. There's some really amazing ones like glutathione, and the majority of why we use them is to help with energy.

Dr Shelby Entner:

I'd say that's my number one reason that I will reach for that tool, so it allows me to help people feel the effects of what I'm working with them on a little bit quicker, because I believe the IVs are putting back in in that passive way, some of the nutrients that have been missing and that we use quite routinely when we're looking at how our energy cycles are made, when we're talking about biochemistry.

Dr Shelby Entner:

So there's a lot of science behind the IVs, but typically when we talk about them in a patient visit, the way that I address it is I just feel like this will help you feel the effects quicker of the work that we're trying to do together. So it's a lovely tool. So in our office we have a nurse that performs the IVs and we have a couple of chairs and there's always people coming and going and it's actually a really lovely setup because it's like-minded people coming together in a setting and it's just kind of a community feel. When you're in there, there's a ton of laughter, there's a lot of people sharing stories. It's actually a really lovely space. I enjoy. I enjoy those days when all those people are in the clinic.

QiPro Sam:

So oh, I love that, a sense of community and like-minded, like-minded people I should, I shouldn't just say women, but like-minded thinkers. And it makes sense, doesn't it? It makes total sense. And I, I guess there are different types of different times of year. You do different things because you might be focusing on cold and flu season and just, or is it just really individual what the person comes in for?

Dr Shelby Entner:

They're always individualized. I think that's just the nature of the medicine that we do, but there are some standardized ones that most clinics offer and I find that we see different times of year bring different people in. I think this is the fall season that we're doing this podcast together, so we're seeing the back to school people. There's a lot of teachers getting that first wave of snotty nose plague coming through their classrooms. We're kind of looking and anticipating towards what is this immune system going to be like this year. So are there things we can do to help support that immune system, to be prepared and not go into it maybe as depleted? I joke, I can tell when it's report card season or tax season based on the accountants and teachers that are in my IV room. But I think for a lot of people they just realize that it helps them feel like they've got a little bit more in the tank, literally. So it just helps them through.

QiPro Sam:

I love that and would a person. It sounds to me like it's. Yes, there are the seasons of the tax. I love that. The tax and report cards. I understand that so well. The Chinese New Year I get very run down, so I'm gonna have to make sure I get that done. How often do people what do you write? Is it like a monthly thing? Do you think? Is it good?

Dr Shelby Entner:

routine. On this I think it differs again from person to person. I have some patients that are really routine. They have more chronic illness and we're really using this as a tool to help them just navigate their other health challenges. So they use the IV medicine as an adjunct to the other things that we're doing.

Dr Shelby Entner:

There are definitely times when people come in, say, for an event like maybe they're an athlete, you know, maybe their big race is coming up and they want to just go into it feeling like they've really again done everything they can to be mentally and physically prepared for that. We will see people come in waves, sometimes like literally they'll come in for a few weeks and they got what they needed from that therapy and then they're good for a while and then sometimes they'll show up again in a few more months or we may not see them for quite a while. It really varies so from person to person. I usually will give some guidelines of you know I'd like you to do this for so many sessions and reevaluate what the outcome of that is for them.

QiPro Sam:

So I love the personalized service on that and I was making a note on the side as you were speaking, because it's so interesting that you're on this path and some of the other things you're doing, because, as I've mentioned, we're in this period nine, which is it's a fire period, but it also means there's a brightness and we're going to see.

QiPro Sam:

So there's a lot of research that's going to happen in this 20 years to do with the medical system. What I love and it may seem far away right now, but it will come quicker than we think 20 years from now, when we go into the next period, there will be a tremendous blend between Western and Eastern. So what you do, I think, will be integrated into the medical system as well in a good way, like there'll be a fusion, because right now I think it's a stand apart. It's like, oh, you see your doctor for this and you go to a naturopath for that, and I always have felt they should be blended. It should be one health care stream so that people can have access to it, and I'm excited because where you're going is going to meld, I mean. So the finality isn't for 20 years, but we're going to see it start to change in this 20 years which is which is nice, which is it's already started and, I think, a lot of um I?

Dr Shelby Entner:

I attend a lot of conferences all over the place, but in the US, especially when we're down there at these large functional medicine conferences. Functional medicine is really no different than naturopathic medicine, but it typically is medical doctors who I quote unquote, say drank the juice. So they're now going oh, herbal medicine, oh, there's some validity to plant medicine. Or hey, nutrition, there's some things there that we should be talking to our patients about. So there's already a paradigm shift. I really believe that it's because of patient demand, but I think it's also louder voices out there asking for this integrative model. So it's slowly happening. We'll see what happens in Canada. It's a little harder in our socialized medicine world than it is in other countries where it's private pay, but it's happening.

QiPro Sam:

Yeah, and I think we're still on. I agree it's happening. I think it's still a little bit imploding and it's going to break down. I think we can all on. I agree it's happening. I think it's still a little bit imploding and it's going to break down. I think we can all recognize the medical system is breaking down and I'm gonna say don't be afraid of that, if you're listening, because I think sometimes you have to break. Something, has to break completely. Then we can fix it. I feel like we've been band-aiding the health system ever since they took away mental health care and look what's happened to homelessness or displaced persons. So we've got to let it fully break, and it is. It's fully breaking Because then I think that's the way in for naturopathic medicine, because they'll see this is our missing piece. This actually expands our reach, alleviates pressure, because if we can be proactive with people, they're not going to end up in ER and until they really need ER or something absolutely.

Dr Shelby Entner:

Yeah, there's always a very strong part of conventional medicine that we all need. It's not it's not throwing it out, and I I have complete respect for my, my patients that are nurses and pharmacists and patients that are really integrated into that medical model, but they're also frustrated. They're really seeing the challenges that are that are happening on the wards and in their private practices Like it's. It's definitely a broken system and we're, as the consumers of that system, realizing we need to be more proactive and preventative so that we don't end up in those hospital beds receiving care that we unfortunately aren't getting the same level that we were even 10 years ago no, it's, it's, yeah.

QiPro Sam:

so I'm I'm I'm not excited that things are breaking down, I'm just someone who's practical and I look at it and I can see it metaphysically, and we've got a few more years before it finally fully cracks, and it will, and. But the good side of that is it's like someone you know if you have a crack in a wall, you let the light in, so we have to let this is going to happen. We're not even in control of it anyway, but I'm excited because your practice is one of those practices that will be able to show them a whole new way of doing that, and it won't be in place of its addition. It's a blend, absolutely, yeah, yeah.

Dr Shelby Entner:

If I break my leg, I am not heading down to my office, I am heading up to the hospital. I am not thinking.

QiPro Sam:

I'm not possibly meditating, saying heal thyself leg, heal thyself, it's not going to happen. No, I'm a total believer. The same way, there's a place for everything, absolutely for everything. All right, as we draw to a close here, because I love my stories with my listeners nice and tidy. I've loved everything we're sharing, that the future and I'm gonna say again, the future is female, which means the future is a feminine energy which is more caring, loving and listening, and you are so well positioned for that. That's why I love our connection and you are a good listener. You're a very good listener, so I do encourage everyone to check out your website. Absolutely. Is it verohealthca? Have I got that right? Actually, we're verocareca. Oh, yes greatly offended.

QiPro Sam:

Oh yes, greatly offended, but we're we're more active on our social media. I've I've kind of accepted the the journey of social media.

Dr Shelby Entner:

So that that is Barrow Health Vernon. That's okay, that's where I got, because I'm thinking, darn it.

QiPro Sam:

No, no good, yeah, If any, would you like to leave? Do you have a takeaway for our listeners today about if they're feeling the pressure? Anything, any words of wisdom you want to give them or any like? Do this one thing today, Anything, anything you want to say as we draw to a close.

Dr Shelby Entner:

Well, I think, as women, we need community, so I think it's really important that you keep finding voices that you can trust and that you can work with, whether that's someone you're close to or someone that's a professional that you're choosing. I really think we need to create our networks because, as women, we are communicators, we need to share information, we need to be listened to. So, whoever that is in your home communities, I think that's really important process, whether that's those morning routines or that brain dump at night. I think something like that is in your power, even if you feel like there's so much else that you're dealing with. So those are moments I think are really important for us to start, and again, my bias would be find someone that you can work with, someone that will be in your corner and support you the most they can with your health and, obviously, the work that you do.

Dr Shelby Entner:

Sam, you're always a big part of my team. I hardly move an inch without figuring out if Sam says it's okay. So my kids know feng shui is a big deal in my life, so they they respect when we won't change the colors in their bedrooms and things like that. So, um, so I think, yeah, surround yourself with people that support you and, um, listen to you. I think that's a really big takeaway.

QiPro Sam:

I love that takeaway and I'm going to poach it because I'm going to, well, I'm going to add to it in a sense, because I've been saying that 2024 I said your, your tribe is your vibe. That was a tagline for the year, if you recall, and in an earlier blog, because I really do believe in that too. We are community and I know it's a word that's been used a lot, but it's a valuable word and if we do connect and we're not alone. So, for those of you listening, maybe you're going through a breakup, a divorce, you've lost your job, you're changing career massively, it's okay, you will get through this. You will get through it, but lean on your fellow community, your fellow women, your fellow friends and they can be male, we're not saying not but lean on each other because we help each other. Together we are strong.

Dr Shelby Entner:

No, I love that, sam. I think, if anything, covid has shown us that we need each other, so that's really been a big no, I love that, sam. I think, if anything, covid has shown us that we need each other, so that's really been a big awareness I think most people have had.

QiPro Sam:

So absolutely Well, shelby. Thank you so much for coming on my podcast today. I know my listeners will have loved hearing this. They're going to save it as a favorite and they're going to listen again because you had so many calm pieces of advice that people can use totally today, and I hope they find you because you're amazing all right.

Dr Shelby Entner:

Thank you so much, sam. It was great to be here. I appreciate the opportunity. It's nice to see your face and nice to hear your voice, and so we'll talk soon, you bet. Thank you, thanks, sam. Thanks Sam.