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This episode contains a conversation between Nole and Kevin that ranges all over the place. From wearing a Garmin watch to riding on a BMX track to finding fitness motivation when you don't have "something on the calendar".
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Welcome back to the Fire you Carry podcast. This is Noel, and in today's episode, kevin and I have a pretty wide ranging and fun conversation. We talk about everything from my first time writing BMX on a track, garmin watches, tracking sleep, and we get into why Kevin has lost his traditional method of motivating himself for fitness and what he's planning on doing next. If you're listening to this and you have a my zone or you've bought a my zone recently or you're thinking about buying a my zone recently, please listen to the end of the episode. We have some news there regarding getting on board with us at the Fire you Carry, so don't miss that. Thank you for listening. Enjoy.
Speaker 1:Man jewelry guys out there Like I'm thinking like the Guy Fieri, you know.
Speaker 2:He wears a lot of man jewelry.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when he gets home from Flavortown. Does he take all that off? I don't know. Welcome back to the Fire. You Carry podcast. Noel's talking about Garmin. What is this Garmin science device you got?
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, I got one of the Garmin Phoenix watches. I think I mentioned it before, but my brother-in-law, nathan, has been using them for a long time. His brother, sam, who I'm also friends with, is a big fan of them and they've been talking about him for years. And Nathan finally gave me one of his hand me downs, because I've always wanted to buy one, but they're very expensive.
Speaker 1:The team's guy, the Navy guy, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. So I mean, this guy is a gear guy he is.
Speaker 2:He knows what's good and every time he talks about it I go look at the price and then I'm like nah, can't do it. So two things happened in the last couple days with this thing. I've been using it forever and not forever, but for months now. I love the sleep tracking aspect of it. It's making me disciplined to get in bed at an appropriate time and shoot to get a decent chunk of good sleep not necessarily hours, because you know that's not always possible with our job, but good quality sleep. So I'm thinking more about how much liquids I'm drinking before I go to bed, if I'm eating before I go to bed, like all these things.
Speaker 1:So it's positive, and you're actually wearing the watch when you're sleeping. I wear the watch 24 hours a day now, so how does it track your? I mean, is it tracking movement? Is that what it's tracking? So if you're in deeper sleep, that you're supposed to not move your arm as much, how does it?
Speaker 2:I probably should know how it's doing it, but it I mean I've worn other smart watches before that track your sleep and they'll show you. I mean, what they claim is this is when you're in REM sleep. This is when you're in deep sleep. This was light sleep. I have no idea how they're deciding that Science. It's science and it's indisputable right. It has to be correct.
Speaker 1:Dude, I couldn't do it. I'm such a tweaker Like I can't have a bandaid on at night time, like I have to. I take my wedding ring off, I take watches off, I take any sort of man jewelry which I don't wear. I don't wear man jewelry at all, but I can't do it. I can't wear a watch at night. Yeah, it doesn't work.
Speaker 2:It took some adjustment. I actually don't really enjoy wearing a watch. I've gotten used to it now. But you know, I wear one of these memorial bands with my cousin Mike's name and my brother-in-law Cody's name on it, and I take that off before I go to bed. So it was an adjustment.
Speaker 2:But this thing does two things recently to me that I thought were hilarious and that proved to me that it's doing something. It knows something. So I get back from Hume and I go to work for three days in a row and I crush workouts three days in a row and my watch will tell me after a workout. Immediately afterward it'll say you need to recover this amount of hours, and I ignore that number. I don't care about that at all. I work out on my schedule and it is what it is right. But then I come home after three days of working out at work and I go immediately into the woods and I begin to collect these giant pieces of trees that are now going to be firewood that somebody cut and they were too big to get them in their truck, so they're just lying in the forest about I don't know a quarter mile from my house. So I'm essentially doing tire flips with these giant wooden rounds for all for about an hour and a half and I put in a good workout.
Speaker 2:And then it's BMX practice day at the track and I've promised Andy that I'm going to ride with him because he's doing good. He's starting in the gate now and he's making it all the way around standing out. He's doing gate starts, let's go. So I told him I would ride with him. He's like dad, he can ride me. I said. I told you I would. So, yes, if you want me to ride with you, I will. So I rented a bike, rented a helmet and rode for an hour and 41 minutes, did close to seven miles total and 250 maps. So that's the number, is going to mean some to you. So for me that's a lot of maps. My heart rate was in the green most of the time, peeking into the yellow, and I would. So now my watch is telling me you need I don't know it was like 56 hours of recovery time and you are overreaching that's the word I used. You're overreaching in your training.
Speaker 2:And I could feel it Like I was exhausted after that. And then last night I'm sitting down with my wife and I'm like, what do you want to do? And it's the conversation, you know. And I'm like, hey, there's this movie that I really want to watch. It's called the Covenant. It's on Amazon Prime. Yes, I recommend it. You guys should go watch it. I enjoyed it. But I'm in this movie and it's didn't. Todd Bradstree tells us about that on his did he.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, this must be a different movie. This is a war movie. This is Afghanistan. This is actually dude. I think these people read Chad Robo show's book Because it's about an interpreter in Afghanistan and all the stuff that goes down is different. It's not the same story, but it's close enough that somebody was reading his book, anyway. So it gets to the scene where there's this big gunfight in Afghanistan and my watch vibrates and this is a smart watch so you can have notifications on it. But I have those turned off because I don't want my my watch to buzz at me every time I get a text. So there's no notifications on the watch, but it buzzes, and so I look at it and it says you're currently experiencing high stress. This has delayed your recovery. Your recovery time is now X amount of hours, whatever it was at that point.
Speaker 1:Because you're watching the covenant. It's detecting your heart rate.
Speaker 2:I'm watching a gunfight in Afghanistan and I showed Heather and she's like is that legit? Are you stressed right now? And I was like I don't feel stressed, but this kind of stuff gets my blood pumping like it. I've been where these guys are and I and so I thought that was funny. There's been only one other time that my watch has done that to me, and this one's a little bit more embarrassing. But I'm going to share it with you because you're the podcast listener and you're here. I'm playing battlefield with my brother and we are in this gunfight dude another gunfight, except this is a video game. And my watch buzzes at me and I look at it and it says you're experiencing high stress. I'm just like what am I doing in my life? Thanks, garmin.
Speaker 1:That's hilarious. Well, obviously it shows you. I mean, you know, but that's interesting because I've had the my zone on and I was like preparing to work out. My zone's a heart rate monitor, but it's only linked to your phone, Right, Right, and I noticed like it came out as like a structure or something like that. Yeah, so you know, you know we're getting our gear on and doing that stuff and I'm just chilling, you know, you know. Quote unquote veterans of the game.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're calm yeah.
Speaker 1:And I'm like I wasn't frantic putting my stuff on, but it was the same thing your heart rate, just watching your heart rate goes up like up and then I was like breathing, I calmed down and I was like that's interesting. You know it's interesting to say, like I'm sure obviously times in our lives a lot, you know you're going to have a peaked heart rate or stress is going to come out.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But it's interesting on the Garmin I always think about. Like that farmer he didn't have a Garmin on, he's shucking weed all day, or guys you know picking strawberries in our day. They say you don't have this much time recover. Do you acclimate to that? Cause? That's normally what men did for thousands of years. They just said today was a hard day. Probably tomorrow is going to be the same thing. Yeah, you would have to, and I think.
Speaker 2:I think we have gotten a little soft to be honest Well we definitely have as a society. We definitely have.
Speaker 1:No, I like we teach. When we were teaching auto X, we were on our feet all day and you're teaching and we're cutting cars all day and we're not doing the majority of the cutting, but we definitely help out. I'm exhausted exhausted at the end of one of those days, like way more so than a normal firefighting day. Right, and I, you know those guys that do that all day and day out. I do think you acclimate, but it is amazing that when you're actually on your feet all day, I mean hats off to like nurses and all those people that are on their feet for the majority of their day. That's, that's tough work.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It gets tiring, especially if you're outside in the sun.
Speaker 1:I have this question. So you're you've acclimated to wearing this thing 24 seven? Yeah, how do you charge this thing, or is it battery driven? What's the story?
Speaker 2:It is battery driven. It's got an incredible battery on it. I don't use it to track my location, which is a lot of battery, but well, I should rephrase that when you go out and do an activity, it'll track your, your GPS location. So if I'm running, which I never do, but or if I'm riding at the BMX track, it'll track your location. So that sucks the battery down, but it's got. When I recharge it, it has 21 days of battery. So it's not a typical like AMOLED display like you have in your cell phone. So when you want to look at it right now, I can see it because there's light, but if it's dark I have to hit the light button. So it's. It doesn't have a back light, that's always on, so it really does well on the battery side. The track ride yesterday was funny because you can track all kinds of activities and they didn't have BMX racing as an activity, so I just picked generic bike riding. Shame on them.
Speaker 1:They had a ton of other. Step it up. Carbon put BMX racing in there. It should have been there. They had a.
Speaker 2:It's an Olympic sport, yeah, and they had a list like 10 other bike activities. Anyway, the point is that you can look at your map and it literally shows you like your speed and everything. And so my map is just like this furious Heart-shaped squiggle, because that's the shape of the track, and you can see, like, where I was going, quote-unquote fast now I wasn't actually going fast, but but it's like tracks your speed and it's just like this furious set of lines where I just went around. Again and again, again, I will say this I want to get one.
Speaker 2:Of course I thought of you while I was out there riding and wish that you were there because I could use some pointers. But I Got on the track and I rode the first lap around it in D speed and Then he wanted to I don't know get a drink of water, something. So my second lap, I'm going just by myself and I'm like, dude, I'm gonna, I'm gonna get after this, I'm gonna see what I can do. Go, here's how it goes. And so I'm going and I'm, you know, we've done some time at the pump track. So I feel like I kind of understand what to do through the I don't know the whoops or whatever you call them. And I'm coming up to the last set of Whoops. There's like five in a row and then a big bank turn and then that's the end. There's a little table top.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I'm going through these things and I'm picking up speed and I'm feeling really good about myself. I'm like, yeah, dude, I'm fast, I'm powerful. And as I come over the last set of the whoops, I'm like, oh, I'm going way too fast. I'm going way too fast, I'm kind of a little wobbly and I'm coming into that big bank turn. I don't know what I'm doing. I almost shoot off this backside of this thing. Dude, I go all the way up to the top lead.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't know that because I've never done it before Barely kept it alive, came back in. Thankfully there was nobody coming in low on the turn below me because I would have taken them out, I was just. I was all over the place and that's what I realized. I got to take this slow. This is not. I Grew up mountain biking and so I used to bike, but that was like 30 years ago. So, anyway, I did not crash.
Speaker 1:I can't. How fun is that? I was so fun. So there's nothing more fun than ripping around a BMX track, I'll just tell you. And then it's like any sport you can progress like pretty quickly, and then there's endless things that you can do so like. Once you get good in the whoops, then you start doubling.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll do it. Oh, just endless. I'm watching these kids out there. They're probably 1415 and they are insanely fast and flying through the air. It's fun to watch them. I will say it's cool. Lap number two. So the lap around was crashed. I Came off and I looked at my garment and I was already at 138 on my heart rate, just like that dude. Two laps and then the rest of it. It was just like my heart rate was up there the whole time. It's incredible how much work that is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's totally anaerobic, because an actual BMX BMX race would last like a minute or less.
Speaker 1:And it's all out from the gate out. I mean you're just pedaling as far as you and me. It's awesome, dude, I gotta tell whoever talking about bikes I've had a downhill mountain bike that was Bequeath to me by my buddy, Matt Plunkett, who's incredible BM. We grew up together. We've known each other since we're two years old and he was. He was a BMX road dog and he was always that guy that that kid, like you know, at 10 years old, do a 360 over a giant double or something. He was just that guy, but incredible mountain biker, biker all the way around.
Speaker 1:But he had a place in mammoth and we used to go downhill and he had this tricked out Santa Cruz bullet oh, santa Cruz, and it's a downhill bike. So it has 10 inches of travel on the front, 10 inches of it weighs 42 pounds, yeah, and this thing is designed to go mock 10 down a mountain and you take a chair lift up, right when you go to any one of these places, and then there's thousands of miles of trails that you fly down and you're full gear. I mean full face, helmet, shoulder pads, elbows, right. I mean you look like you're going to war and and it's so fun. But this was, like I don't know long time ago, my last lift ticket that was clipped on to the bike.
Speaker 1:Was like an 07 or 08 and it's been collecting dust. It's not a bike that I can like take out of my front of the house right and go mountain biking, but it's an epic bike it's like. And then drew weight. Our buddy drew who recently his program guy came up, he's got his kids. They're the three brothers extreme.
Speaker 1:Yes out here doing it's it all these guys are. They're. All they're doing is dirt jumping, riding bikes, mountain bikes, doing all this stuff. So I, true way, came over to get some kettlebells for our front TBO and this bike was sitting here and it's been collecting dust for years and I said, true, I think it's time to have the three brothers extreme have this bike. So it was really cool. Talking about a cool father-son thing, he said this is a great project for my boys because it was rusty.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's been said needed to get a tune up. Yeah, they started dialing it in and he's teaching them like mechanics on how to fix this and fix that and now.
Speaker 1:I. Then recently he just sent me a video and his kid is wheeling the whole thing All the way down the street. And that is no easy feat to wheelie that bike because it has huge forks on the front Right, it weighs 42 pounds and I see I'm already using it for dirt jumping and stuff and it's super cool to see it like. So I text my buddy, matt, who he's 44 years old and he's still mountain bikes, but we're not like downhill, yeah, and I was like the bullet lives and he was like that's the coolest thing ever because it's gotta be a 20 year old.
Speaker 1:Yeah and the end. You know it was expensive at the time and now technology is so much more advanced on those type of bikes. But it's still legit to see it like reincarnated to the three brothers extreme, these three rad dudes that the weight brothers.
Speaker 2:Do. That's awesome. You're just the bike guy right now, because Indy's riding the bike that you loaned us and yeah, that's he's riding out on the track. He's loving it. We put new tires on it, new pedals, new grips and I gave it a bath and the things rad. He's loving that thing. You're just the gear.
Speaker 1:The bike guy. The next step is to get him clipped in dude. All the kids are running clipped in pedals now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's wild.
Speaker 1:He's not ready for that, though.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not ready for that. Back when I was mountain biking a lot as a kid, that was Becoming the thing in mountain biking that you clipped in, and I just always refused to do it. We use something back in the day called rat traps. Did you guys have rat?
Speaker 1:traps, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:You don't know what rat traps are, look it up. That was the old-school way of clipping in, but that's that's how we used to ride Plastic we used to make fun of, those were cooks.
Speaker 1:Dude, if you were like, those are cooks because dirt jumpers, they needed a feet free right, well, yeah, knack, knacks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, take your feet off. You know can't do. That was close. We had the rat traps like what are these cooks?
Speaker 1:Okay, so I want to go back to this garment thing because, hmm, it just seems awkward, to where I don't know why it is. I've never been a man jewelry guy, but I want to know like man jewelry guys out there, hmm, like I'm thinking like the guy Fieri, you know he wears a lot of man jewelry.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when he gets home from Flavortown, mm-hmm, does he take all that off? Oh, I don't know. I don't know either, but you're leaving the garment on your year, that's. That's enough, because even the my zone, I'll wear the chest strap. I'm after like an hour. I'm like get this thing off me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and this is a big, heavy watch. I mean, you've seen it, it's not small and in order to get it to read your heart rate and everything it's reading, it's got to be snug on your wrist, which I I hate. I've grown used to. But yeah it, it doesn't bother me anymore, but it was tough at first. I will say that we were the whoops strap.
Speaker 1:Yes the whoops. Yes, and that bugged the hell out of me, like it would actually dig into your wrist and it would like indent it, and so I'm like and then you'd have to switch wrist and it would be like bruised. I maybe have lame wrists, but I don't know, I can't do it.
Speaker 2:I got a bro tip from my brother-in-law, nathan, who gave me the watch and he told me he's he flips the watch from one wrist to the other Either before he goes to bed or when he wakes up, and that's key. So when I wake up in the morning it's on my right wrist and it's just like I'm I'm tired of it. It it feels like it's been there forever. It's it's not sore but it's uncomfortable. So I'll take it off my right wrist and I'll put it on my left. So I used to wear. A lot of guys in the military will wear their watch on their left hand, because that's the hand that's forward on your weapon, and they'll wear it on the inside of the wrist so that if you're out on your rifle and for some reason you need to look at the time, you can just see it. It's right there.
Speaker 2:So I always used to wear watches that way and I did it for a long time after the military and I was like there's no reason to do this anymore. So I started wearing a watch like a normal person, but even then I would only put a watch on, like when I was Going out on a date with a wife. I had a nicer watch and I would put that on, but it was, it was man jewelry at that point. It wasn't like I wore one every day. So Anyway, that's the.
Speaker 1:That's the sign of the like. The brand new fireman or EMT goes out immediately, buys the g-shock the g-shock affordable.
Speaker 1:And I did it. I bought a couple g-shocks, you know, I thought that's what we all have to do. It's part of the uniform, right. And then, real quickly, I realized I'm like I'm not really holding time. We have poll socks now. I'm not like doing anything with time, right, and like time doesn't matter really at the station at all, right, it's just like somebody goes, do, do, do, clean out, all right, now it's time for like, so I don't know, it's one of those things, but it's like it's definitely the sign. You see a guy with like sandals on and flip flops, with a g-shock and a mustache.
Speaker 2:He's a fireman. He's a fireman.
Speaker 1:He's off duty on a Tuesday. That's a fireman.
Speaker 2:Or he listens to the jaco willing show and follows him on instagram. Isn't that what jaco wears? Is he a g-shock guy? He's got an older looking digital watch. I don't know if it's a g-shock.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's find that out. I don't know what he runs, but anyways, if you're listening and you work for Garmin, I'd like one too. You carry podcast because I want to see if I can get over my my man jewelry thing and see it. It sounds interesting. I'd like to check this out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm somewhat of a gear guy and unfortunately I am a data nerd. I love data and numbers and so I'm I'm hooked on this thing now and I will continue to wear one of these. I'll wear this thing till it dies, but I will buy another one after that because I love the numbers. There's so many things it tracks and a lot of it's not really useful in the real world, but I love seeing it, and they have all their own metrics for things kind of like meps. You know, it's like a number that doesn't mean anything to somebody who's not in my zone, but once you start tracking it, my brain is like, yeah, I need to know. How did I sleep last night?
Speaker 1:And just like we talked to Stu it's accountability, yeah it is Just like we talked to Stu.
Speaker 2:Like I know, I can tell if I had a good night of sleep or not. But it's also fun to look at the watch and go, oh, I scored an 82 in my sleep. Wow, that's great.
Speaker 1:Okay, I looked it up because I follow Jocko, so he wears a Timex Ironman Triathlon watch.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dude, that's old school.
Speaker 1:It's like an 80s watch I had one of those in the 80s, one of those water resistance, yeah, okay. And while we're talking about this on the Instagrams or whatever, you know who Chad Smith is? I'm a drummer. Chad Smith is the drummer for the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:And anybody in the Red Hot Chili Peppers is a total wild man. But there's this series on. There's a group that I follow called Drumeo and they highlight some of the best drummers in the world and I haven't really put too much thought. Everybody knows that Flea is an incredible guitarist and Anthony's obviously a great leader, assistant stuff, but I know he's a good drummer but I've never knew. But they played a song that you and I both love. It's 30 seconds to Mars. Oh yeah, the Kill. Yeah, bury me, bury me.
Speaker 1:Just good song yeah yeah, okay, and so they played a track and all he can hear is the audio. He can't hear the drum track. And they say, hey, just create whatever drum beat you can, you can come up with to this song. And they make sure that he doesn't know the song. And I don't know how Chad Smith or the Peppers haven't heard it. But he's like, oh, is this some emo stuff? I really know emo stuff and he's listening to it.
Speaker 1:It's Jared Leto singing and then it's Jared Leto's brother who's the drummer and he rips on this song. All of a sudden he's like, oh, it's in three, so for any of the drummers out there, that's a time signature. He's like he figures out real quick that it's in three with no drum track, and then he just goes off. And it's one of the cooler videos I've ever seen because he almost matches the drum beat identically. He doesn't know the breaks and he doesn't know some of the fills, but it's unbelievable to watch because I'm thinking to myself there's no way, if I've never heard that song, I would come up with that. It was phenomenal.
Speaker 2:Does he do that? The first time he hears the song, he starts playing.
Speaker 1:The first time he's ever heard. He'd never heard the drum part. That's crazy. He's never heard it, and so even if you heard the drum part as a drummer, that would be hard to-.
Speaker 2:To duplicate right.
Speaker 1:And he not only duplicate, he nails it and just goes off. I'll have to check that out, you guys can see this video.
Speaker 2:Yes, dude, since we're speaking about the chili peppers, I'm not the biggest fan, but, like everyone else in America, I've heard their songs 700,000 times. I'm scrolling through my YouTube feed the other day and there's all these recommended videos which actually, to be honest with you, that video has been recommended to me and I haven't watched it. So I'll watch it, but I get this other video recommended to me and it says what the red hot chili peppers sound like to people who hate the red hot chili peppers.
Speaker 1:I love that. Did you watch it? Yes, it's so funny. If you haven't seen that, go watch it, because his lyrics are gibberish, right.
Speaker 2:They are.
Speaker 1:They're very hooky but like I'm an LA guy, they're an LA band and it was always the thing like growing up in the 90s, like it wasn't. I was a punk kid but that was always like popular, but they were so out there that it was still like you had to root for the peppers because they were like out there.
Speaker 2:Their songs are catchy Like they're really good at writing songs that get stuck in your head. They nail that. But this video is hilarious because not only does it sound like what's the guy's name? Anthony Anthony Kias oh, I got the right first name. Anyway, it's outstanding. Go check it out. This episode is just we're going off the rails.
Speaker 1:All right, you know what solidified the peppers to me, though? What, like you? I mean I always liked them when I followed them and I wasn't like I would never went to their shows or anything. But they're an LA band, I'm an LA guy, I like the peppers. But we were in Ireland, ireland, and we were at a wedding in Ireland. We're in rural, the court county, which is in the South, and it's like Dublin is like LA. But when you get outside of Dublin and you get into the rural counties on like the West and the South of Ireland, it's very rural, like what you would see in movies and stuff like that. And so they go to these pubs and there is one pub per neighborhood. It's not like oh, let's go check out this other pub, and they're like no, this is the pub we got here, this is our pub, this is the Lillipub, you know like that's the one pub so it happened to be.
Speaker 1:You know, there's the whole Catholic Protestant Northern versus Ireland is still trying to win back their freedom from England, and so there's this angst in like these rural parts where all of them is like death to England, the oppressors they're always trying to say about. And so we're in this pub and all they were doing are these Irish rebel songs and it was over and over and over, over and over and over, and the whole pub, let's say a hundred people in this place, are singing to just death to the Brits and down to the IRA and up to the IRA and all this thing. And it was like I was like we were in a wedding, you know, like we were kind of like they knew the Americans were there and at some point I was like man, we got to switch it up. You know me being the eternal DJ and we had enough family. I was comfortable enough. We've been in the town for a while and I'm like guys got anything else than like death to England music, you know, and they're like oh yeah, sorry brother, we got the peppers. We got one peppers and they had in their little jukebox. Then they had one chili peppers record and it went.
Speaker 1:So everybody's singing these death to England songs. And it went stopped complete silence in the bar. And then it went and then a hundred people in unison went how long? How long? Where I say and they sing word for word every single song. And it made and I was like I don't even know these lyrics. Nobody knows these lyrics because they're all gibberish. They're all Anthony Kitas gibberish. Right, and they sang, but in the Irish dialect, in that like Gaelic tone. And from then on they were like this is your stuff. You guys are from LA. I can't believe you don't know these lyrics.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:I'm like I know the song but nobody knows these lyrics. It was hilarious and so, from then on, like chili peppers had been solidified like I should. This is an American LA band.
Speaker 2:Dude, that's funny.
Speaker 1:But I still don't know the lyrics.
Speaker 2:Well, you know you got to use your time somewhere and maybe someday.
Speaker 1:I mean that's awesome, so we got some changes coming up, dude.
Speaker 2:Possibly Well, yeah.
Speaker 1:So you know, I want to talk about this because house it changes inevitable.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And the only constant is change. But I still don't like it. What's that saying the only thing fireman like? Or what is that saying how?
Speaker 2:does that go? Well, dude, how does that go? Because the whole idea is oh, I think I know it.
Speaker 1:The only thing firemen hate more than change is the way things are, something like that yeah, it's exact and it's it's so accurate, right, because we're like you change one thing on us, we all just immediately say this is stupid, I can't believe this is it. But you're you're coming up on a possible station change. I'm coming up on a possible station change and we've had a good thing. We were both working on the truck for a long time and it's a it's truck day every day. There's only one piece of equipment at our station and that you made a move and now you're having to make another move. So I want to see how you're feeling about that, because I'm I'm in the same boat.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's. It's weird because you know we've been in this battalion for a long time. You know I've been in this battalion for over a decade now, and so I know everyone here. I don't know some of the newer guys as well, but every station I go to, I know somebody there well and I know exactly what to expect from every captain of the battalion, every shift, at every station. I've been here forever. I'm going into a battalion where I literally I pulled out fire sink the other day, which is our app that we track our days on, and I can look at the roster. I look at the roster for every shift, every rank. I know zero people in this battalion.
Speaker 1:That's only LA County will do that. That's only LA County.
Speaker 2:And it's not even that far away from here, but I've worked in the same area for so long that you know. And there are regional things that happen where the guys that live out here in Orange County they all work over here, and you know the guys that live up wherever live over there, you know the desert guys work out in the desert. So it's, it is that way. We're segmented like that. But because of that I can't help but be a little bit apprehensive. It feels a little bit like I'm starting over because I have to go into this place and establish my reputation but then also figure out who my players are Like.
Speaker 2:I have no idea what I'm going into or what the stations are like, what they expect. You know, and not that it's going to be dramatically that different, but when you're together for 24 hours at a time it is that different. The job's the same. You know tones go off, we get on the rig and we go handle the call, whatever it is, the job is the same, but the players, the players and stations are different. You know you may have a captain that you know doesn't want you to leave veto in his toilet, and you only know that by working there and figuring it out. So if you don't know what veto in a toilet is, don't worry about it, it's a cleaning product.
Speaker 2:I'm going to explain it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I mean you've put over a decade like a body of work into an area. So it's not only that you don't know, people know you, and so I think we can get. We can get away with things that maybe a newer fireman can get away with.
Speaker 1:I probably think that that's where I say institutionalized, because we do things that are a little bit salty. If you could say that, oh yeah, but it's. I do think it comes from an earned like thing because, like people, you put a body of work in and people know you're a good dude, you have a good heart and you're a good worker and so there's some leeway given right, and so I think there's a good thing. A lot of guys will tell you to like move around quite a bit and I like putting in time. Like when you look at New York guys like the FT and why those guys are assigned a station for their career, from what I was told. So like they're a 66's guy and that's it. That's where they work and it's when they promote.
Speaker 1:Obviously they can get bumped around, but a lot of them put a body of work in at one station. So I think there's value to moving around. I feel like you do have to start over and maybe it's good to dust the salt off you and like you kind of like go back to what you did always as a new guy to earn a good reputation again, and then but it does there's a growing period. I think it takes like a year or two to get comfortable into wherever you know the guys and they know you and all that kind of stuff. So yeah, it's changes different.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're totally right, kind of the way I would picture it. For me personally, I will not go to this new battalion and show up without a uniform shirt on, on a call during my first month, maybe even year, right, whereas at 15s, during COVID, we went through an entire time where I was doing that literally every day all the time and nobody ever said anything because well, for one thing, everybody else was doing it, but also all that's just null, you know, and, like you said, I was a known industry and so everybody just kind of left me alone. I definitely had some salt on me, but even things down to like, it's our daily job to clean the bathroom. At 15s we would normally knock that out first thing in the morning, but if we got a bunch of stuff going on I may not do it, I might do it later on the afternoon and nobody cares. Everybody knows it's going to get done.
Speaker 2:But at a new battalion and a new station, working and overtime with a bunch of guys, I don't know, I'm not going to do that because they're going to assume that I'm not doing my job. So I'm going to get on it right away, no matter what, regardless. Put everything else first because you're you're trying to, you're right, you're trying to establish that, and so that is good. About a move is it'll force me out of the comfortable place that I'm in. Not that I can behave any way I want here, but I kind of can, and that may not be the most positive thing.
Speaker 1:There's little things. Like you know, we wake up early to go to work. I get up at like four or sometimes before that, and then you know we got coffee on board. But at seven o'clock is when our technically our day starts in the morning, and I we've we've taken upon ourselves like the first thing I do is I plug in Bluetooth and I start blaring punk, rock or death metal, whatever the vibe is of the day. But we always took ownership of that and we kind of set the tone of the vibe of the day right, and so when you go to a new station, I don't suggest you go ahead and go pair up to Bluetooth.
Speaker 2:You're not the guy. You're not the guy.
Speaker 1:So it's little things like that, like I like I don't know about you, but I like kind of determining the vibe of the day. We all have stuff in our lives and to me the station was kind of a reprieve, a little break from the normal stresses of your life where it's just man time and like no matter what was going on. I know that you and I were probably going to get a workout in, we're going to put on some music to make us feel better and we're going to start some chainsaws and we're going to get into our day, and it was kind of a break. But when you're in I think, a new place and you're trying to fit in and you're trying to do that thing, obviously you have to say, all right, who's the music guy?
Speaker 1:is music allowed, but you have to start over and do all the basics that we have a schedule that you're supposed to do and I think it's good, but it also like I know what it can be. I'm like hey, I get to determine the day when you have a little season on you. You know what I mean. Be like no, I'm going to set the tone here. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2:Dude, I got recalled just a couple of days ago to another station on battalion and I showed up. I came in, I started checking out the rig. Nobody's turned the music on. So I paired up with their Bluetooth speaker and I just put music on because yeah, buddy, there needs to be music playing and everybody just went about their business. Nobody said anything. But yeah, 100%, when I go working overtime at 82s in my new battalion, there is no way that I would attempt to do that.
Speaker 2:It's pretty funny to think about because it's such a minuscule thing. Like to those of you who aren't firemen that might sound ridiculous Like what do you mean? So what? You put music on. But you got to think about it.
Speaker 2:Like you've got this group of roommates and you're not just roommates, you're literally like doing everything together for at least 24 hours. Like every time someone's going to go somewhere, you have to go with them and do whatever it is that they're doing. There's no separation and it's a different thing. We have to be considerate of one another and one another's needs, what everybody else likes. You have to take all that into consideration if you're going to be a good fireman and you're going to fit it on the shift. Everybody has to find out where they fit. So yeah, when you don't know, you kind of have to start off right back from the beginning and make sure that you're not coming in and disturbing the way things are, cause firemen hate change, we hate change, they hate change, but I don't think it's going to take long for either you or me to like feel it out, and if there's nothing going on, we're going to pair up and start changing the mood.
Speaker 2:We'll figure it out. I don't think that's going to take very long at all.
Speaker 1:But there there's a thing I think that has changed, I think with a little season, which is a good thing is I've said this before is that I'm always a people pleaser and when I wanted to become a fireman I always thought like hey, I want it to be liked and I want to be respected and I want to earn my keep. And so when I'd go into the station I said I hope these guys like, like me, you know, and I think you know, with enough maturity and enough time on, now I kind of walk into the station and I go I wonder if I like these guys, you know. But it's more of a change to say like nothing's really going to change about you know, your, your discipline and your thing and I think that's one of the best things I did working with you is said like look, no matter what, I'm going to do my job, what's expected of me, and I'm going to have a good attitude and we're going to have fun and we're going to do our, you know.
Speaker 1:I mean like I think those are the things you can control and the other thing I, you know you you know, and everybody has a home dude some people it fits in well, other places and other places you don't fit in well, but I still think you got to follow your path, yeah for sure, absolutely All right.
Speaker 2:Do you want to talk about your move, where you're going, what you're going to do, or is it too soon? Sure, okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's up in the air so, but I'm looking. I'm looking at a new home and possibly going back on to a paramedic squad for a number of reasons, so that's interesting. So it'll be a new kind of a job task, but I don't know if it's going to go through, but I'm looking forward to it. I'm like I think I'm like I'm looking forward to a different change of pace. I think it'll be good.
Speaker 2:Can't wait to hear about it. I mean, of course I already have, but you know, on the podcast, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And on the flip side, like I actually know quite a bit of the guys at the yes, I'm looking to go to great dudes over there, some great dudes.
Speaker 1:So, um, I know, I know I think I could do well there. It's a little bit longer drive, but it's more in line with what we like to do, so I think it'd be good. So, but, but like you said, there are like some, I wouldn't say nervousness, but like, yeah it's, it's a whole new thing, man, it's a whole new, a whole new animal in a whole new area.
Speaker 2:Dude, I saw this email from the department. Since we're talking about work stuff, I get emails on my phone from the department and usually I just look at them and swipe them away. I don't read them. But this one came out and it said county announcement on approval of veteran patch.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, I was like what's this?
Speaker 2:So I opened it up and of course every uh, what's what's breast cancer month? Is it October, October, Sure? Anyway, it was announcing that during breast cancer awareness month you could wear a pink LA County fire patch on your uniform. That it's allowed. I've never seen anybody do that. It's been allowed for a few years as far as I can remember, but it's a lot of work to put on. Yeah, you got to go get the other one taken off and so on and on, but anyway it's allowed. Yeah, you know that's cool. It says what we want to do, Awesome. I've never done it, but apparently this year the county has an approved LA County fire patch that's camouflage and you can wear it during the month of November. Sweet dude, A Camo Veterans patch. I want to get one, just because it looks cool. I'm not going to take the time to go sew it onto my uniform, but it does look cool.
Speaker 1:Now let me ask you this as a veteran Army Ranger what if somebody was not a veteran rocking the Camo patch? Is that Stolen Valor?
Speaker 2:I would just assume that they were supporting. I've never been one of these guys that goes after people for Stolen Valor. I have 100% been in situations where I'm having a conversation with someone who is presenting themselves as a veteran and I know they're lying, but I've never been the guy to call them out on it. I don't like that kind of confrontation and so I usually just let it go. Not usually every time, it hasn't been a ton of times, but in my life I have run into that. So I would just assume they love the military and they're supporting it. But the reality is there will be people that wear that, who want people to think they're veterans but they're not, because that's just the way the world works. But I don't personally care.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and they have a G-Shock watch and a mustache.
Speaker 2:Some guys care a lot about that and there is something to be said for Stolen Valor. I mean, if I was walking around presenting myself as a paramedic when I've never been a paramedic, that would be wrong and inappropriate and I don't know if that would offend you as a paramedic, but it would be the wrong thing to do.
Speaker 1:That's the worst group to you. You're not going to offend any paramedic at all. If you told me you're a medic, I'm like you're an idiot.
Speaker 2:That's one of the funnier things about having you should have never done it. I told the guy that today who's currently in medic school, and he's like dude, I'm loving it, I'm excited. I was like, oh okay, good for you, sorry.
Speaker 1:No shout out to paramedics, Dude, they do good work.
Speaker 2:It's just a job, because I've been on the job with the county a decent amount of time now, I constantly get mistaken for a paramedic. I'll show up at work for an overtime and the captain will be like, hey, you're a medic, right? And I'm like no, you're like what? You're not a medic. I'm like sorry, dude, I'm on the engine. It's like I'm giving up my EMP for life and they just assume, because I've been around so long that well, so long in loose quotations that I have to be a medic. And no, it's just not true.
Speaker 1:Do you know that there's a paramedic patch as well?
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:There's a specific LA County paramedic patch and after the show emergency, which was huge in the 70s, right, like a lot of people rocked that patch and it was a cool thing because pretty much LA County started paramedicine, right. I was like a big deal, but purposely you get in the patch and it was kind of like the ride of passage and you graduate, you get the patch and you get a pin to put on your batch.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, a cool pin yeah.
Speaker 1:Right, and I never once I couldn't tell you where that pin or that patch is. I never once rocked it because I was like I don't want anybody to show. I'm a paramedic, because you get boned when you go to a station and the first thing a paramedic, if you don't know, is on a squad and busy paramedics can run 30 calls a day at some of our stations and I never wanted anyone to know I was a paramedic, I'm a fireman, that's it, and so I never rocked the patch and I got out of some paramedic things because I never had the patch for the pin.
Speaker 2:Very smart, very smart. I know guys that don't put fireman stickers on their cars for similar reasons, because technically, the code of I don't know EMS is that if you're like driving past a car accident or you're supposed to stop and render aid if you can, and if you have a sticker on there, it identifies you as a person who's supposed to do that. And I've heard people say that they're not going to do that and so they don't keep stickers on their cars because they don't want people to know that they just drove past that accident.
Speaker 1:That's funny. I've definitely pulled over a lot of times when I see a TC in front of me or something happen and the hardest thing is, and then you know, neighbors know that I am a paramedic fireman. And a lot of times they'll come over to me and I think the only thing I can do is be you know it's calm to storm, and I think that's the only thing I can do is I can send somebody to call 911. But we got no gear.
Speaker 2:No gear. There's nothing you can do.
Speaker 1:Right. There's not much you can do, but just make logical decisions for somebody who's being irrational or not making logical decisions. The one that kills me, though, is the wives All you firewives out there. This is the one that kills me, Because my wife I don't have the fire sticker on my car, but my wife does, and we have that like Life 360, you know, and it shows you like. It's like the Garmin for wives It'll show you where she's at and where the all the families at and also show you their speed.
Speaker 1:And I'm like you're going 85 miles an hour down the street and you have the fire sticker on. It's not a good look. You know what I mean. Like calm down, lady, and I think they're very just. She's just proud that you know her husband's a fireman and that we do good work. But I always like pull that thing off. If you're going 85, take the fire sticker off.
Speaker 2:Yeah, do the pride is appropriate, it's appropriate.
Speaker 1:All right, so you've been reading and I've been reading 10X. 10x is easier than 2X.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay. So I'm also reading Anti-Fragile by Naseem Taleeb, which was recommended to us by Stu White. Oh, stu-e Dude, I will tell you that book, and by reading I mean listening to the audio book. That book is fascinating, but so much of it is way over my head and it's been a while since I listened to a book where I have to pause it and go back and be like what that dude? I don't know what that dude did or what his education is, but he writes intelligently and it's been fun to listen to.
Speaker 2:I'm also reading a book by GK Chesterton. It's a book called Orthodoxy, so it's a Christianity book and that's also a heavy read. That guy was a thinker on levels that I'm not capable of. So that's another book where I actually have a version of it, where another gentleman writes commentary at like the beginning and basically says look out for this and make sure you read this part, and this is what he's trying to get across, which is very helpful Because it was written a long time ago. I don't remember the year, but yeah, that's currently what I'm reading through. What about you?
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, 10x is one of the things. It's an entrepreneurial book, but when you apply it to, let's say, either the podcast or anything else, it's very interesting, thought provoking and makes me think about a lot of things that we could do, but the one the obstacle is the way I'm almost finished with that that's that, ryan Holiday book that's on my list.
Speaker 2:I think that was also from Stu right.
Speaker 1:Yes, but there's the one that, okay. So there's this guy, arthur C Brooks, and a buddy of mine sent me a podcast of Arthur C Brooks and then you can tell when anybody like large they do the rounds. He was like on Rogan, he was on Tim Ferr, he was on all those and all of a sudden I started listening to he's got this book out and it's called Build the Life you Want and he co-wrote it with Oprah Winfrey, which made me like yeah right.
Speaker 1:No, I'm out, I'm not listening to it. It's phenomenal. And his podcast is phenomenal. He's like a Harvard I don't know psychologist or something and it's about like structuring happiness in your life and I generally skew happy but he has these quizzes on there on whether you're a mad scientist. So I took this quiz and he's got all these different things and I'm full-aing this bad. But if you say you have high highs and you have high lows, he considers you a mad scientist.
Speaker 1:And that's me dude, because I'm like, if I'm high, I'm high and I'm low, I'm low but I'm high in both, and he calls it the mad scientist and he is one as too, and so he actually talks about structuring in your day and finding purpose. But one of the things that really hit me hard is he was talking about anything that we do by ourselves, for pleasure is addiction If it's shared with somebody and there's an experience there and there's a memory, it's happiness. And so I think about it like, let's say, you're drinking Well, you're drinking, and you're by yourself and it's at two in the morning, you're in addiction, right and that's. But if you have like one or two beers with a buddy and you're at a baseball game or something like that, and there's a shared thing and there's a memory, that's totally happiness.
Speaker 1:And it's really interesting when you think about all the things that like, let's say, I do right, let's say nicotine, I think it started out as a shared experience. You're on the fire rig, you're at a brush fire, you're deployed somewhere and you're having a shared experience because you don't have any other stimulant or whatever, and it's like we're laughing about sleeping in the dirt best job I ever had and you throw a lip, or in Well, it turns into me having four in at the middle of the night by myself. Well, that's addiction, right, but it's very thought provoking and he goes on and on and on like that. But he puts it in very much layman's turn. But he breaks it out and like, very, I'm fascinated by the guy. I'm kind of diving into all of the Arthur C Brooks stuff right now.
Speaker 2:Dude, that sounds fascinating.
Speaker 2:I was talking to Dr Mike Desena a while back and we were getting into some stuff and he said something similar to that, but he was talking about my past with alcoholism and then what most people do to replace that, and he basically was telling me he's like, yeah, your fitness routine, that you do like you've replaced a lot of that alcoholism, that addiction, with fitness and what you just said, dude, that rings so true for me because I love working out together, like when we used to work together at 15s.
Speaker 2:Obviously we did it every shift worked out together, and I love that. But I don't have that most days and yet I will get it in. I have to get it in and I'm not gonna say that that's a negative thing, but it's interesting and we didn't go this far. So I have nothing to offer the listener here. But my brain starts thinking okay, so if that's the case, obviously I'm not gonna change that. But how do I shift the way I think about it or the way I process it so that it's not an addiction, or can I anyway?
Speaker 2:More to come on that, because I haven't really dug into that yet.
Speaker 1:That's super common because, I mean, I've been in sobriety for 20 years. I think you have to if you wanna be successful. You have to replace that dopamine, and that I think you have to. I actually suggest guys that are starting off early on. And it's natural because when you quit drinking, you quit the hangovers, you quit that feeling of having to throw up in the morning. Physically you start feeling better and because you start feeling better, you wanna start moving your body again naturally. And then guys like us have a natural affliction to go into something hard and so, like when I was in my 20s, when I was first getting sober, the first thing I started doing is triathlons and I went hard into the triathlon word, you know, but I replaced it. And is it a positive thing? Absolutely. Could you take it to the next level and, like, go off the reservation with it? Yes, you know, but I think you look at the best.
Speaker 1:Some of the best fighters or some of the best fitness influencers are one of those that usually have some sort of demons in the past. You know what I mean and I don't think it's necessarily bad if you're at a point now where it's, I think we're constantly saying is it taking away from my priorities of my faith, my family, and where is the fitness? Through me it's like third, because it's for my job and for my mental thing. But as soon as I say no, babe, I can't go with you on that date because I have to get my workout in, or no. Or, like you know, we have friends that train at high levels of jiu-jitsu when you're saying I can't go to dinner, or I can't be with the kids or to come in because I'm training jiu-jitsu, well it that, that becomes the the cutoff point. So I think that's the hardest thing to learn is where is that cutoff point? I think fitness is fantastic for you. It's fantastic.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, oh yeah your spiritual health, your overall life. You got to be hard to kill. But if it's, if it's controlling you and not you controlling it, then yes, you've crossed the line somewhere. Yeah, I.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree with you and that's totally fair, and I'm definitely not in a place where I'm like I better give up fitness because it's an addiction, like no, I'm not gonna do that. But but it did give me something to think about. Like I Don't think there's anything negative about Crushing a workout solo, because that's what you have at the time, but it is interesting to think about and I've been at places in my life where I've Put fitness way above other stuff, above the family, above everything else, and that's that is negative. I've been there currently not there, but I would go back there. You know you give me the right kind of reason and I hundred percent will like, so I got to watch it.
Speaker 1:But I mean I've long called I call it getting the demon out of me, right, and if I'm, I something, will you know, set me off and I'm pissed off or I'm whatever. Well, I'm gonna go crush something, you know what I mean. And if I go crush a workout, I kind of get the demon out of me and then I'm, then I'm able to like think rationally, but like I'm Without that, I'm like I don't. I mean I wish I had the tools to like calm myself down and rationally talk my way out and be Like more Max K's or something like that. But but the demon is in me and I better get it out like I'd rather get it out crushing a workout than doing something else, you know speaking of Max K's, let's do this real quick.
Speaker 2:If you guys have listened to Max K's episodes which, if you're this deep into this episode, you have listened to Max K's episodes because you're one of our super fans and we love you If you've listened to Max K's, you know that that guy's a wealth of awesome knowledge and he's got a great perspective on life. We want to do something with him where we do little short segments, talking about just different ways to handle different situations in life. And I would love to hear from you, if you have any, if you had a question for Max, like, if you're not one of our buddies who goes and talks to Max because there's a Lot of you out there too but if you could talk to Max and be like, hey, what about this situation? What should I do here? Send those to us, because we're gonna be recording some stuff with Max and asking questions like that, and I'd love to have some of those come from you guys. So reach out to us. You know how to find us. Ask Max a question, we'll get an answer for you.
Speaker 1:But speaking of crushing things, so we just had Evan Hallquist on the show captain up at 33s but a wealth of knowledge in the health and fitness, in the health and fitness world. But he has been pretty thought-provoking and changing for me because I Keep doing the same things over and over again and for some reason the injury bug has hit me for the last three years and I feel like Broken all the time. I got a number of different injuries that I'm recovering and I never get better. And so I reached out to him and he caught me, got me on a protocol and it is so hard to like Wrangle back and do this like foundation program. It's so hard to do like Stretching for me and then do this kettlebell thing three times a week and that's it. Like I'm like that's it.
Speaker 1:I don't do sprints afterwards, I don't do deadlifts, I don't do like it's so hard. But I think I have to start learning to like listen to people that are wiser than me, who have done this work on themselves to recover from injuries, and it's that's what I'm currently doing, as I'm doing his simple and sinister program with some foundation training, and it is it's hard mentally because I don't get the angst that I do if we just go crush a med con or something like that. I just don't get that. It's challenging, I feel like it's beneficial, but I don't get the demon out of me and that's the hardest thing. For me is just to like pull back.
Speaker 2:Dude, I came in this gym, this very gym that I'm in right now, and this was one of the days where my watch had told me I was overreaching before I went home and I was like I have to do something. But I'm not gonna crush a Met con, I'm not gonna do a CrossFit workout and I'm like I'm just gonna do some traditional weightlifting. I haven't done that in forever. It's not part of my program. Bro pops yeah, I'm gonna do some bro pumps.
Speaker 2:So I came in here and I'm like all right, I'm gonna do some bench press and I'm gonna do some curls two things that I literally never do and I was so bored. It was like a fight and, to you know, full disclosure, zero rest in between sets. I cannot do it. I know that that's like the way, but I can't do it. So I'm I'm still going through these decently fast, but I'm not getting my heart rate anywhere near what I would be if I'm like crushing a workout. So, yeah, I'm right there with you, dude it. I know that kind of stuff is beneficial, like and actually a lot of that came from that conversation with Evan too, just like the idea of like I don't build strength. I'm. I'm fully working on Metta ball conditioning all year round, all the time, and I get stronger, but not as much as I would if I went and Squat on a regular basis or deadlifted and did a linear progression. You know the old-school way of getting strong like that's what works. I never work on this.
Speaker 1:So I was trying to do that and I found it incredibly good. I'm the goal though right. And I don't have a goal.
Speaker 2:I don't have a goal right now right.
Speaker 1:So the only reason why that made sense to me is that I Wanted to get stronger for a powerlifting competition. I mentioned I did triathlons. I want to do the other opposite of that, which is a powerlifting competition, and so you know, to go from a triathlete to a power lifter was a big jump. I had to mass, moves, mass, so I had to gain a lot of weight, I had to eat a lot and I had to lift. Like three days, three days a week, I was squatting and so I did the linear progression, the starting strength program that we talked about, and I got like it's so Monotonous, it's so boring, but when you start moving weights it starts being pretty fun. When, like, oh my god, I'm like Repping 360 for five on the squats, you know that's fun, right, but it is very monotonous. So it just.
Speaker 1:But my goal is not strength anymore. My goal right now is just straight up recovery. I got to feel better. I feel like I'm in pain all the time. So I think that's I got to focus on that, you know, and like, and just really focus on that for a couple months to To get better. But man, it's hard. It's hard mentally. No, it's hard mentally, but I think, I think that's something that we both been missing I want to focus on like a goal and say what's the next goal?
Speaker 1:and then if strength is a goal, then yeah, we had to do something to. But your goal is just general well-being, fitness for the job, fitness and life hard to kill. I think you're achieving that, yeah.
Speaker 2:I do need a target, though. I need something to be targeting. Right now. My current mode is Gearing up for the program. Right, because we just had one, we're about to have another one, and so I always try to be in top physical shape for that, so that I can do all the things and Still be at the top my game. That's, that's my goal. But there's no real like I have to flip a caber or I have to hit a mile and this time, like there's not any real like benchmarks, like that. It's just like I have to be in shape, which is good, there's nothing wrong with that. But I would like to have something where I'm shooting for something, and I don't know what that is. Right now I'm not really feeling like I can't be a BMX racer, I can't do that. But but there's got to be something out there.
Speaker 1:I got to find something, and this is the hardest thing for me right now, because I've always and we've talked about this at length I've always had something on the calendar to shoot for it as a competition, whether it be Highland games, a BMX race, you know, county soccer in the summer, whatever it was I had a goal and I would change my training and fitness to that goal. And Right now I'm so damn injured, like I know for sure, I cannot put a BMX race on schedule Because I risk my whole family's livelihood if I crash, you know or like, and so that that's really the hardest thing mentally is like I can't put something on a calendar anymore and so I'm like having to switch it out. I'll have to talk to you after this or something, but I have to figure out mentally how I say what's the new calendar goal? Is it like, okay, I want to be able to do pulps with no pain, or how do I like what is the new?
Speaker 1:thing yeah and like go towards that and say, okay, still attack a goal, but it's not a competition that I usually want to say. I'm gonna go to crush the next guy or beat that fire department or whatever it is. Yeah, that's, that was all done in for 40 years.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's tough. That's tough. We've got some guys in our discord group that are doing that really well, that are retired but still out there being active and basically working on staying active and prolonging their quality of life, and Maybe those are the guys when you be talking to.
Speaker 1:Yeah you know, you know, yeah, katie's, another one, though he's out there crushing his bike, you know, and he feels great, he looks great, he's gonna keep doing what he's doing. That's good stuff, all right. Well, if you've listened all the way this way, we apologize. This is basically Nolan. I catch it up and get in that talk, but anyways, hope you got something out of this. This has been the fire. You carry podcast.
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Speaker 1:I did this Tim Ferriss thing. I turned off all my notifications. But then when I really want to get notified on something special discord I'll remember to go in there and then I'm like oh, there's 18 messages from a year ago.
Speaker 2:And then I do the same thing. That's why I did yesterday I was, I didn't turn my notifications off, I just left my phone put away and then I come back and I'm like, oh, my god Discord On Sweet.
Speaker 1:So what was Garmin saying?
Speaker 2:So this thing tracks all kinds of stuff. I got two things down. I'm just gonna talk about the podcast, because it's good content. I Talk about it. Oh sorry recording where we're right. Dude. That was fun. People like that. There was a lot of laughter and fun in there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love it. You're just recording.
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