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But anyway,"},{"speaker":"Jonathan Collaton","startTime":4406.9,"endTime":4410.29,"body":"let's move from this on to the"},{"speaker":"Jonathan Collaton","startTime":4410.29,"endTime":4411.43,"body":"final part of the episode."},{"speaker":"Jonathan Collaton","startTime":4415.54,"endTime":4420.22,"body":"All right, so that is Yemi's"},{"speaker":"Jonathan Collaton","startTime":4415.54,"endTime":4420.22,"body":"career path, Nigeria, to Cyprus"},{"speaker":"Jonathan Collaton","startTime":4420.22,"endTime":4423.64,"body":"to Canada for school, and then"},{"speaker":"Jonathan Collaton","startTime":4420.22,"endTime":4423.64,"body":"Newfoundland to Alberta for"},{"speaker":"Jonathan Collaton","startTime":4423.64,"endTime":4427.81,"body":"work. So we know she's ambitious"},{"speaker":"Jonathan Collaton","startTime":4423.64,"endTime":4427.81,"body":"that much was very clear in the"},{"speaker":"Jonathan Collaton","startTime":4427.81,"endTime":4432.67,"body":"interview. 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You"},{"speaker":"Jonathan Collaton","startTime":4492.94,"endTime":4495.73,"body":"won't care anymore about that"},{"speaker":"Jonathan Collaton","startTime":4492.94,"endTime":4495.73,"body":"job that didn't work out."},{"speaker":"Jonathan Collaton","startTime":4497.41,"endTime":4500.86,"body":"Another lesson we can take from"},{"speaker":"Jonathan Collaton","startTime":4497.41,"endTime":4500.86,"body":"Udemy is that Even with all the"},{"speaker":"Jonathan Collaton","startTime":4500.86,"endTime":4503.86,"body":"ambition in the world, that"},{"speaker":"Jonathan Collaton","startTime":4500.86,"endTime":4503.86,"body":"doesn't make you invincible."},{"speaker":"Jonathan Collaton","startTime":4504.64,"endTime":4507.85,"body":"Yemi me talk about imposter"},{"speaker":"Jonathan Collaton","startTime":4504.64,"endTime":4507.85,"body":"syndrome, which I'm super happy"},{"speaker":"Jonathan Collaton","startTime":4507.85,"endTime":4510.22,"body":"came up, because that's"},{"speaker":"Jonathan Collaton","startTime":4507.85,"endTime":4510.22,"body":"something a lot of people deal"},{"speaker":"Jonathan Collaton","startTime":4510.22,"endTime":4514.15,"body":"with in all different areas of"},{"speaker":"Jonathan Collaton","startTime":4510.22,"endTime":4514.15,"body":"their lives. 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