Reverend Ben Cooper:

God bless you. God bless you wherever you are today. Thank you so much for joining us here. You got simon pinchbeck. You got myself Reverend Ben Cooper. We are in the barrel of truth. We are in the little studio today we are recording, recording in. We are recording this little podcast # Christian straight talk out of the series of fighting talk. And the title of today's podcast is how big is your God? What a title, what a God we serve Simon. Again, my friend.

Simon Pinchbeck:

It's great to be back. We're in. Thanks. Thanks very much. We know the beautiful new pod Room here at swanley, arent we.

Reverend Ben Cooper:

Yes, we're in this little room. And yes,

Simon Pinchbeck:

we eventually found a classy biscuits, didn't we? Yeah, it was like a Krypton Factor. I want it there were a lot of the lock and key.

Reverend Ben Cooper:

We had to go for six key security checks to get the biscuits out of the site. But God is here your God is the God of the biscuit is a God of order.

Simon Pinchbeck:

He blesses beautifully this morning with chocolate biscuits.

Reverend Ben Cooper:

If you could say guys, we just want to say thank you this morning to everyone that joins us joins us on iHeart Radio Buzzsprout, Spotify, Amazon music, we just want to say thank you so much for the 1000s of downloads across the world for listening to all these podcasts right across the platform of eating church and also out of the barrel of truth. #Christian straight talk. You can find us on the socials. You know this is just starting to move forward. You know the the books out the first book is out. The second book is just about to come out of the next few weeks. So we are really blessed. So just have a look around and grab yourself a book. It's straight out of the barrel of truth. But good morning, everybody across the world. What you got for us, Lord Simon, let's roll.

Simon Pinchbeck:

Yeah, Ben, good morning to everyone and Ben, you know, how big is our God? Well, yeah, you know, you we have people, churches all over the place been trying to put our God in a box that we all day long, all Sunday, and they bring him out on a Sunday delay, then bring

Reverend Ben Cooper:

him out. They think that they bring him out but actually Jesus has left the building

Simon Pinchbeck:

electability some time ago. It's all about self.

Reverend Ben Cooper:

You know,

Simon Pinchbeck:

if we look, you know, if we got if we hit in the in Genesis, then Genesis 116 is like a throwaway comment. He says He made the stars also, you know, yeah. This He made the stars also and we'll go into some facts and figures in a minute, but this is how massive or you cannot. You cannot describe him. You can't

Reverend Ben Cooper:

give him you can't describe him. You can't out create him. You can't out thank him. You can't build a church bigger than his church. Oh, you can't

Simon Pinchbeck:

I mean, and that wonderful, wonderful thing by Reverend Lockridge, Dr. Lockridge, remember that? You know, vaguely. He's, he says you can't give him and he can't you know, he said, you can't get him off your hands. It's a great thing. But you know, Psalm 19, or st being the heavens declare the glory of the work of his hands. Well. But how big is that? How big is this? God is our God, how big audit? How big is this universe? And this is just one universe then that man is a man, that man has tried to put a handle on trying to assign the man to the moon science scientists have tried to look at

Reverend Ben Cooper:

the Hadron Collider, you know, look what they're trying to do there for years and years and years trying to create the Big Bang Theory. Uncountable amount of money under the earth, thanks to the Swiss and the French. Yeah, they're trying to create this the big the big bang, for how long? literally billions, it must be costing billions 10s of 1000s of scientists to sit down they're trying to get to find the magic button of life and maybe not laugh not long ago. I read an article by and they said we had to call it quit for a few hours because the electric power is the generator. Revenue think this is this just tells us everything done it. So he's the God of the electric. He's got a gas. He's the God of the universe. He creates everything. You know, look, look at the fuels, the fossil fuel fuels. Look at everything. You know, that man tries to tell us that man owns everything.

Simon Pinchbeck:

A man tries to tell us Ben that we were born accident. We're

Reverend Ben Cooper:

here by just a puff of smoke. The Big Bang happened and then suddenly we all come together. Atoms collided and all mixed. only bank me. So what is before the Big Bang? I don't know, I can't explain. It's just madness. So creation. So when you look at creation, God said, Let there be light and there wasn't God created the heavens and the earth and the fullness there is. You know, there are a lot of Christians that struggle to believe with creation, because they are educated. And they come from certain areas of life. And there are quite a few number of preachers and teachers I know that you can have a quiet a serious chat with, and they even struggle with the birth of Christ or you know, and so you find that education can actually block Yeah, because it doesn't compute it doesn't it doesn't line up with there's a logic search, it doesn't line up with logic knowledge. At some stage, you have to let that go. The governmental of the teaching system as gold of this evolution stuff. Yes. That came out from Darwin. And and he didn't even say at one point at the Oh, dear

Simon Pinchbeck:

at the end. Oh, dear.

Reverend Ben Cooper:

I don't think it was

Simon Pinchbeck:

at that time.

Reverend Ben Cooper:

It was too late. It's

Simon Pinchbeck:

too late. So we're educated through our educational systems. Were taught that man comes from an ape, you know? Yeah. Yeah. And to be honest with you, you know, when you you know, your, your daughter, Molly, when you're older in their hands, you didn't think she's

Reverend Ben Cooper:

she's airy? No, like that banana like Molly? Did I mean, it's like, yeah, no, stop swinging in the trays.

Simon Pinchbeck:

Everything about the human body is created in it.

Reverend Ben Cooper:

We serve a God that created the heavens and the earth. He's the King of kings and the Lord of lords. And the Old Testament speaks so much about creation. You know, even now, the prophecies that are being fulfilled with with what's happening for Russia and Ukraine, you know, Korea, North Korea, China, all the superpowers, the famines, the wars, the rumors of wars, what the Bible was spoken 1000s of years ago, what we see in across the news channel, there is nothing new under the sun, God created the heavens and the earth. And the scripture says that he is stretching out the universe as we speak, he put the stars in the heavens, he He said, Let there be light, and there was light. If you are fearful this morning. Just remember how big your God is. Just remember how big he is. Just remember the power, the power of the spoken word, you know, there is power in the Word of God. I speak God's Word over my life, not like an evangelical preacher or a teacher, but literally, as a son or a daughter of the living God, I just speak the word because

Simon Pinchbeck:

it's paranoid his parents would. Let's have a look at this universe. Come on. Let's have a look. Ben, in our in our universe is called the Milky Way. Ben. Yeah, here. And, Ben, when you hear things like there's more stars than there are grains of sand on the beach, that blows my mind.

Reverend Ben Cooper:

I actually can't compute that. So my goal, I think, pick up 11%. If you pick the handful of sand, and you can eat every grain, and you think there are more stars, to them, grains, just in the palm of it don't work. It's not a science and logic will never work with faith.

Simon Pinchbeck:

When in our universe alone, there's 200 billion stars, right? Not the sun. Now, the moon is a quarter, a quarter 1200 50,000 miles away. The sun is 93 million miles away. But it's just right. For our

Reverend Ben Cooper:

Yes, perfect isn't perfect. But if any of them was to move a certain degree, we'd be in serious trouble.

Simon Pinchbeck:

You got in our universe, we got a planet called Saturn. And that's 1 billion miles away from Earth. I can't get that I actually can't I can only count 1000 times bigger than earth.

Reverend Ben Cooper:

I can't I actually can't cry. I actually can't grasp it. Isn't it interesting when a scripture says Knowledge puffs up? Yeah, so knowledge is a limiter. So when you study astrology, when you study all the universe, and you look at that, there must come a point when the scientist goes, You know what, Fred, let's go get a burger. This is too big for us. It must come a point because how do we explain it? Or how can you explain it? Even a black hole I heard a guy talk about a black, the black hole the power of black holes and you're thinking, This is crazy. This is so big. This is so big.

Simon Pinchbeck:

It's huge. When there's 6 billion planetary systems and our stars lie within each of each galaxy been there to

Reverend Ben Cooper:

have we found life have we found any speck of a heartbeat anywhere else? No, no, no. How much money has this world spent on fire? into the heavens looking for life.

Simon Pinchbeck:

When we had in 1977, they released a satellite called Voyager One.

Reverend Ben Cooper:

Oh, right. Okay. Yeah,

Simon Pinchbeck:

I don't remember. But that's traveling at 40,000 miles an hour. And it is now just at the edge of our solar system, just at the edge just at the edge of our solar system. So there are 125 billion galaxies that make up the visible universe, Simon,

Reverend Ben Cooper:

you're blowing the head of the global universe,

Simon Pinchbeck:

the visible

Reverend Ben Cooper:

light. So when we talk about visible we're talking about literally what is in the telescope? What is the range of what is, right? What is in the furthest distance, then beyond that range, we ain't got a glaring clue. This is where faith comes in, isn't it?

Simon Pinchbeck:

You've got to be Captain Kirk. And

Reverend Ben Cooper:

at you got to be like, beyond. So wait, do you know what I mean? already?

Simon Pinchbeck:

So listen to your mind. So you've got the nearest star to the Sun. Is Andromeda. Right? And that's 10 million million miles away. Now, if you were traveling at the speed of light now faster speed. Like, if you were traveling at the speed of light, Ben, it would and you didn't stop us in the white van you didn't stop. But it will take you 2 million years to get there. It may not God made all this Oh God made all this do not put him in a box is he's so Big Ben. So

Reverend Ben Cooper:

when it says God is stretching out the universe, that little line in the Old Testament, we can't really grasp what it means. Because when it says God is stretching out so and it says that he's still placing stars he's still doing he's still creating beyond what we can see, as the scripture says it, I think we need to talk about photosite. Because this is to this. This is just too big, because my mind actually blocks my mind cannot go no further, when you're talking about how long it would take to travel from Earth to that, that that star, I actually can't compute it. I can't get that because it's too far and beyond my human thinking. So when you look at science and faith, no wonder. Faith is greater than science, because science is limited. And I know there are great Christian scientists out there and thank God for them. That saying yes, when you look at the Bible, and you bring this together, but when you look at that small line, God is stretching out the universe. We don't really grasp it do to that degree until you have facts,

Simon Pinchbeck:

facts, yeah, a bruise 11 cells has been done. The universe has made that God's command

Reverend Ben Cooper:

the universe. So the universe is everything that you're talking about everything that is captured in the visible, why? What is seen? And what he's not saying? What he's not seeing what we can't see, you can't get to the end of what he's not saying.

Simon Pinchbeck:

These are local galaxies, you know, but there are millions and millions. They're not touchable that you can't see beyond that, because you haven't got what's beyond that.

Reverend Ben Cooper:

Who knows? It's like it's a showstopper, isn't it? So how big is this God? So when I come to him, I go, Lord, do you think you could? Could you could you help me today? Then I put it into some form of equation and work it out and think he created the heavens and the earth. So my little issues of life are nothing to him. But they're everything to him. Yes, because I come to him and say, God, can you help me deal with this worry. My worry, is so insignificant to a degree to what he has done in creation. So when you bring the two together and go, I need I need to get the work this week on fuel has gone to another. I can't find another 10 or 15 quid so put in the fuel why?

Simon Pinchbeck:

But is the deal been everything small to our God in it?

Reverend Ben Cooper:

Everything is small and everything is important, important you are in we are important. So

Simon Pinchbeck:

each individual now, we all know stories individually, how we count the faith, but we know stories. God's been on someone's case for years and years and years. He cares for that individual. He loves them. It's not like a government but he's not like some of these rollers are out there who don't care for the individual. He loves us.

Reverend Ben Cooper:

He loves every single scripture says Cast your cares onto him. Because he cares because he is cast your burdens cast your cares depending on what translation you really fine. Cast your burdens on to Him because He cares for you.

Simon Pinchbeck:

It doesn't matter. Doesn't matter who you are equally ATG and you know our Bible tells us Don't worry don't worry because he looks after the birds of the air Don't worry what you what you what you've got aware.

Reverend Ben Cooper:

I'm actually getting to that point where I'm where I'm starting not to worry so much about the materialism not that I'm worshiping materialism but you know, all food we got to get food we got to get some fuel we got to just just stay Thank you God for today because then we understand My God shall supply all my needs according to His riches in glory. Yeah, so God says in His word, I will not let the righteous be righteous be beggars of bread, God will always provide God always makes away. So when you look at the size of the universe, when you understand the science, and when you try and bring some logic, logic to it, when you try and bring some, some educational thinking to this when you really try and work this out. You can't work this out. The greatest scientists in the world cannot really work this out. The greatest mathematicians, the the philosophers, the great thinkers, and no one can work this out. So faith comes in, doesn't it and faith rises above this is all about it's about faith. Faith climbs higher than the educators can get. Get get us five climbs higher than the fears five goes above everything. Faith is unstoppable.

Simon Pinchbeck:

Faith is unstoppable. And with faith comes love with you, and hope and hope and

Reverend Ben Cooper:

an everything becomes possible. And everything becomes believable because this is our God because you realize how big the God

Simon Pinchbeck:

you found Him through Jesus Christ, the Father, you've found a father through Jesus Christ come to

Reverend Ben Cooper:

me, all of you that are weary and heavy laden, I will give you rest. I am the Way the Truth and the Life No one comes to the Father except for me for me. So who is the father? He is discord

Simon Pinchbeck:

he got his rising amazing God who's all my all powerful,

Reverend Ben Cooper:

all encompassing. He's Jehovah Jireh, Jehovah Nissi, Jehovah Shalom as well. He's saying he loved the world so much on three six days. Yeah,

Simon Pinchbeck:

that he that he said to his son, I've got a mission for you.

Reverend Ben Cooper:

Redemption, redemption plan when you understand the redemption plan the power of redemption, the power you have been redeemed by the God that is stretching out the unity that you have been set for by by the gods. So when you look at these problems and the so when you look at religion, it makes you want to laugh than it. Yeah, we are trying to control this God that created the sand on the seashore. And then look at our builder out there from it. Look at Gary, this great guy that we got a Gary is a deep sea diver. And he's explaining things to me that are so beautiful under the sea. If you think nature is beautiful above the what we see, he said you want to see what is under the sea. He said there's nothing like it. It's the colors, the depth, the beauty, the stillness. And that's what we don't say. So it's a sign with the universe, isn't it?

Simon Pinchbeck:

When it's not off South? No, there was nothing It was in lace down

Reverend Ben Cooper:

shopping trolleys and that got tangled in

Simon Pinchbeck:

I'm joking but but it's the truth. This is true. He's crazy. It's what he's created. He's still creating

Reverend Ben Cooper:

the volcanoes, the trees the seed, I look out this table that we're sitting at the timber that the metal the iron or the fuel

Simon Pinchbeck:

everything and I look out in the morning and I've got a couple of little bird feeders and the little birds are really given it Sam and God has created those birds at this moment in time yeah at this moment at this moment to enjoy to enjoy

Reverend Ben Cooper:

and what have we done with the planet we wrecked it not you know what I mean by that we know that what not because we because governments and politics and manufacturers has led us down the path of this is the right way to go and then suddenly all you're drinking bottled water you damaged it isn't it interesting now the enemy always tries to switch it around well but when you look at creation create I never believed that you know when they come up with that story about the ozone layer that your deodorant is killing the earth if if I believe in this god that we're talking about this God is not going to allow the gases and everything to damage what he's cuz he is fixing the earth.

Simon Pinchbeck:

What is a parallel beam because what's happened is they've switched this this climate can't change and net zero right, net zero and reset No deal the reset they've switched it to worship in the planet. Yeah not worshiping God the God who hurray it man that's right at 100% Right and it's very pagan a very pagan it's very occultic and it but we have churches are great but they celebrate the blessing of them but God Allah bless him That's right so you can do this you can do the other a puts you Yeah, at the same

Reverend Ben Cooper:

time becomes idolatry worship in it is clever and the enemy turns things over years very slowly. And very quietly and under the table it turns it around. Yeah, very Green Deal Net Zero we've got to do this we've got to do that. We've got to save the planet. Well, the Scripture tells us then it what's going to happen to the planet is going to burn up. It's going to come under the the curse is going to come on it's gonna be destroyed. And that's not to say that I don't agree and don't understand recycling because I do but there is only so much a human being can do because God gave us the authority and God gave us the the clear command look after the you know, the Earth is yours. walk the earth. Farm the earth live through the earth. All that we get that don't we?

Simon Pinchbeck:

Yeah, we do. And I happen to think Ben that were quite responsible in the UK and quite responsible. Yeah, majority of the Western world. But they're trying to put it on you Monday, individual atomic put it on the individual that you've done it if you discard a plastic bottle. Yeah. In swanley high Street. Yeah, a turtle is going to die in the Pacific. Well, it's not true, isn't it? It's just just not true. Because I've been to India and place a lot of that mate and bless them. And I love them and a beautiful people. But the, the way that they go about discarding all their stuff that there's rivers and lakes full of this stuff. And yet, we're the ones in the western world that are told you got to pay now 50 Pence for a bag. You know

Reverend Ben Cooper:

I love that, it's great. Well, that's a great trick. And that was a great trick. Go in the oil stores bag, the free bags are free. No more plastic, no more plastic

Simon Pinchbeck:

In the States. For years, you've got a choice of paper or plastic, paper or plastic. So why don't you give us the choice of paper and just give us recyclable paper bags, the keeper

Reverend Ben Cooper:

of the purse. It all comes down to money. Everything comes down to cash. So

Simon Pinchbeck:

it's everywhere. Yeah,

Reverend Ben Cooper:

it's really important that when I look around at creation, I look around at political agendas. I look around at wars, rumors of wars, I look around, I honestly believe we're going to go into a deeper dive than what we had with COVID. With the fuel hike, with the petrol diesel increasing,

Simon Pinchbeck:

you've definitely right, you're definitely right. But you said something. Earlier when we were talking a little bit about John 316. You said he set us free and Jesus did when you believe in him when you make him your Lord and Savior. He sets you free from the world. So we are in the world but no longer of the world. So we don't have to be bound up in all that we're Yeah, we we have to. We have to be a obedient to what the government tells us but we don't have to be in it.

Reverend Ben Cooper:

Right. So the difference is Simon that we're getting to is that whatever policy comes against my faith, I have to stand up against practical laws, road laws, health and safety laws, all that stuff, all that stuff is critical and important. But when the policy comes against me, as a believer, and tries to change me and tries to entrap me, and also what really does it persecute is, could persecute me. That's when I stand up against the policy.

Simon Pinchbeck:

Because although when you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, you're still your passport still says, if you're living in the UK, passport still says you're a citizen of the UK, but you are no longer you're also, more importantly, citizen, citizen of the kingdom.

Reverend Ben Cooper:

So although I live in the UK, I work in the UK, I walk in the UK, I don't partner with it spiritually. Now. That is the difference. Massive. So whatever nation or world or particular part of the world I live in, I agree with certain areas of the political arrangements because that's fair, and that's good. But when it goes on the higher drive of a city Spiritual drive and that I recognize that when it comes against my faith, that is the pushback that a Christian has to do. It's a

Simon Pinchbeck:

choice we have to make. Yeah, definitely. Because when they're taught to take our God out of education, education, out of work, work out of life out of creation out of Korea, take him out the UK, so give out completely, then we I have to stand up, we have to stand up, and we are citizens of the kingdom. And our do is to advance the kingdom.

Reverend Ben Cooper:

And his interest, isn't it that the Bible when it talks about politicians, it talks about them as ministers, God put every politician around the globe in these positions, he knew that they will be in these positions, they are responsible, and they have a higher price to pay for how they governed the people of the earth?

Simon Pinchbeck:

Yes, no, they have a choice

Reverend Ben Cooper:

don't know they have the choice. So it's really critical, isn't it, that these politicians are not there, because where we've put the tick, they are there because God has put them into these positions, and they have a responsibility of looking after God's children

Simon Pinchbeck:

differently. And remember, if you've made Jesus your Lord and Savior, you are now a member or a citizen of the kingdom of heaven, the kingdom, and you're separate from the stuff. So God says, Why do you worry about it? Don't worry about it. No, I've got you. You are no citizen. So don't let this swing.

Reverend Ben Cooper:

Don't let the walls don't let you cry. And don't let Russia don't let the food crisis at the moment. Don't let the Talon the COVID Brexit worry, you

Simon Pinchbeck:

look what's happened been in it. We've had two years where people sometimes buy a house and they're fearful. And then all of a sudden, we've got this war and all of a sudden, there's a threat of a nuclear now he's not going to be now nuclear. No, no, no, please don't think that this is this is political. This is political. This

Reverend Ben Cooper:

is arranged this his plan is pulling you all over the place. So it comes back to doesn't it faith or fear, whatever way you look at this, everything these crisis, and I find this really interesting. Now how everything is global nowadays. You know, Brexit was global, even though it was more then then Brexit and then we got the GU Summit, then we got the g7 stuff, then we've got COVID global now we've got wars, rumors of wars global now we got famines, global one world governments gloat. Everything is global.

Simon Pinchbeck:

What you're talking about is the global leaders all in lockstep with each other. Right. So us, we saw it through the planet global, we've sorted through, and it's all based around the World Economic Forum. That's right, and have a look at their logo because there's their suite as a line that sweeps through, and it connects three hours, and it looks like 6666 If you see it properly. So there we are, we they're all under this umbrella, and they've been organized and dictated to by so we don't want to get into conspiracy theories or anything. But what we're saying to you is this, this is the way that the world is going to tell global one world government, one world religion, monetary, New World Order, all that sort of stuff,

Reverend Ben Cooper:

because it's leading to a a one AntiChrist, but at the moment we see for runners, and for many generations we've seen for runners but what we're seeing now is an acceleration and, and time speeding up and everything is happening so fast, isn't it? COVID gone done and dusted. Almost suddenly, World War is breaking out. What's next Famine, Famine is running along with that the fear. I believe we live in in the Jezebel time as well. Jezebel was great at delivering messages that didn't come into being because look what she said to the Prophet. What you done today is going to happen to you.

Simon Pinchbeck:

I think that's a good point. Ben and the voice talking about Jezebel. Don't forget that Jessica suggestible spirits so it can it can be a man who's holding that spirit yet as well as a woman can't think it's just a feminine fingers. Now it's not a masculine thing. But Jesus told us Dinny Jesus told us

Reverend Ben Cooper:

Yeah, these are be signs. He said they are indicators indicators of the end to come. What do we do, Lord? How do we know what your return is? Look out for the signs in the heavens above. Look out for wars, rumors of wars, look out for famines and plagues. If you look at COVID That was a plague when you look at all this stuff, but it's a little label up, isn't it the way they code it the way they label it, the way they market it the way they deliver it. Yeah, everything is really interesting time really to be alive because we are really seeing the Word of God. Really clear and very plain, I believe up to like 10 years ago, not saying God was quiet. But what I mean is it was, it was everything was more pressed out. But what we've got now is everything landed on top of each other, as soon as one thing finishes that it finishes in the morning. COVID finishes in the am pm, we've got mess, World War distraction. It's happening too quick at a press of a switch.

Simon Pinchbeck:

And what I'd say to people out there, if you listen to this, you know?

Reverend Ben Cooper:

How big is your God?

Simon Pinchbeck:

How big is your God? Yeah, don't have a look. Don't get caught up in all this

Reverend Ben Cooper:

because faith is bigger than fear. Stay

Simon Pinchbeck:

in the Word. And the thing is, Ben, if you don't know the word, if you're not in the world, if you're not rooted in the world, if it's not foundational, in your everyday faith, then you are going to be tossed around like a ship without an anchor.

Reverend Ben Cooper:

But that's why denominations have done the damage because denominations are chasing the worldly Antichrist church and then sound doctrine

Simon Pinchbeck:

are people look more to their leaders of the churches. Yeah, Robert, due to the Word of God. That's right. Because look at this spin. I just pulled this out. Look, if we go Isaiah 44, verse 28. Now listen to this. He says, Have you not known Have you not heard, the everlasting God, the Lord, the Creator of the ends of the earth, neither faints, nor is weary, either Gods button it none of this surprises him. He says, His understanding is unsearchable. Wow, unsearchable and searchable. You can't undercut his understanding that that is just powerful. He gives power to the weak, and those who have no mighty increases the strength, even the US shall faint and be weary. And the young men shall utterly fall but those who wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength, They shall mount on the wings like eagles, They shall run not get rid of they shall walk and not faint phrase God, for the Word of God, there we go.

Reverend Ben Cooper:

Isaiah 40,

Simon Pinchbeck:

Isaiah 40, starting at 20,

Reverend Ben Cooper:

starting at 28, what a scripture, those who wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength, they will rise up on wings, as of eagles. So when you study an eagle and understand what an eagle does, oh, my goodness, how clever and how powerful. And how wise is an eagle, you're going to rise on wings like not as a Eagle, but like you will saw you will rise above the storm, an interesting thing an eagle flies above the storm line. And I really believe God, God is calling you right now to rise above the storm of life rise above the storm. And we're and then you got you got to be so careful you how you pronounce things these days in here because people go all they're talking about out of body experience. They're talking about transcend or meditation or they're talking about floating, they're talking about astral plane, and all that crazy stuff, because that does exist. But we are talking about faith in the God of Israel. With your faith, you can rise on wings, as of a gold hope is so powerful. Our God that we serve together as children of the living God, your identity in God is evil. You are a son, or a daughter of the living God. And when you realize how big we actually will never realize how big he is because he is beyond searching the scriptures. Simon just read it out. You cannot search me and find the end of me.

Simon Pinchbeck:

Because 55 Ben, come on. Verse eight, he says this only Ben? He says, For my thoughts are not your thoughts are ways not my way. He's not your nor are your ways my way, says the Lord For as the heavens are higher than the earth. so are my ways higher than your way. So my thoughts, then your thoughts are mine don't? This is why we don't put God in a box. Yeah.

Reverend Ben Cooper:

Why isn't it? Think about it, that I in a roundabout way used to think that I could pop God out on a few hours on a Sunday. How futile is it that leaders think that they can control this everlasting, powerful Jehovah

Simon Pinchbeck:

leaders that God's

Reverend Ben Cooper:

thetic is it that religion thinks that it can control the God that put the stars in the how army? No wonder we have not What God really wants us to have, because we limit ourselves because we live in religion. Religion is dead and finished any is limited to man's understanding and anticipation. But when you live and you understand that you belong to the kingdom of God, the Kings domain, the king, when you understand that you belong to a kingdom, when you understand that you are a child of the living God, that when the scripture comes into play, all things are possible to those who believe when I believe in the God of Israel, when I believe in in the understanding that he created the atmosphere, he created DNA he created the the atoms of the universe he created and he is stretching out the universe when I get some form. Now I'm actually going to change understanding to belief because if I understand I limit but if I believe my belief goes further than the my understand that Jesus said, Just have faith and believe, just believe fellas, just believe just drop their nets and belief. You know, it stops it then it because the word belief, I think we analyze the word belief and try and work out what it means you can't find the end into what it means. It simply means what he said from Genesis to Revelation. Don't work it out. Just believe it by faith.

Simon Pinchbeck:

So all these world leaders are running around puffed out like peacocks fin ganda. Yeah, they're the daddy. They're actually working out the Lord's plan. It's it's the plan

Reverend Ben Cooper:

of what the scripture says that they're in a bit like watching. It's like watching a West End Show, isn't it sitting on the sidelines, watching these

Simon Pinchbeck:

leaders, right? It is a being gay? And can I

Reverend Ben Cooper:

grow by Whoa, yeah, God, God's pulled the strings. God has already read the play. God has already spoken it God has already for told God has already prophesied what to expect when to expect and how to expect. And these world leaders have no power, because they are only doing what the scripture tells me they will be doing.

Simon Pinchbeck:

And then here's the frightening part for those people that Jesus when He comes back, he's not coming back. Now for salvation. He's not coming back to safety was coming back for judgment judge can come back to judge the living dead? And it says in Philippians, doesn't it? At the name of Jesus, every knee, every knee, every area? Well,

Reverend Ben Cooper:

you won't be able to understand who you are. The greatest military force will fall at the presence of His Holiness,

Simon Pinchbeck:

because everything is small to our God. Everything is tinier than a grain of sand. Who do you think you are with your plans? Why says it you know, how do you make God laugh? Tell him your plans. He sits in the heavens, and he laughs at you. And man, there's going to be judgment on you because you've sent people today today is great.

Reverend Ben Cooper:

And death is great. When you think about it really. All the church has done for a number of generations is bark on about revival. And there is no revival on this earth at this moment is there in our vaults, revivals. I believe what's on this earth? Is God judging and God moving and God's shaking, and God turning us over like soil. God is turning us over the devil Adam got her not worried about the devil. I am not bothered about spiritual beans not worried. I am more worried about the wrath of God. That is coming the judgment.

Simon Pinchbeck:

And the church will not preach on the fear of God. Like we've won't

Reverend Ben Cooper:

preach on the folk fear and the judgment and on His sovereignty and his power. And he is bringing good and bad. He's shaking everything he is doing every because the Scripture tells

Simon Pinchbeck:

us and there is a shaking, and

Reverend Ben Cooper:

he's turning this nation over like an allotment. He's sticking a fork in and he's turning this over.

Simon Pinchbeck:

And there's a remnant as a remnant rising up It's realizing

Reverend Ben Cooper:

the gardener God is the gardener

Simon Pinchbeck:

what's the religion wants church to go back to

Reverend Ben Cooper:

get your flag out? Jesus is coming get your

Simon Pinchbeck:

prophetic art out you know get back to it was before ever you however we carry nights. Yeah, have you have your breakfast Have your breakfast. That's where it was before. Now. I'm afraid there's a time now for you to fall down on your face before the Lord and Savior farva What is it in me? That yeah, you're right,

Reverend Ben Cooper:

you're right strip me back,

Simon Pinchbeck:

strip me back.

Reverend Ben Cooper:

I'm I'm ashamed to say that the brush of church across the West has give Lucifer more time than Jesus. And what I mean by that is through teaching fruit, deliverance, all that junk and rubbish that goes along with that paying for prayers, paying for blessings paying for this paying for that. And the greatest thing that anyone can be afraid of, or should should the devotion even come into your conversation anymore, because his days are numbered. What we need to be praying for is God, will you remember me? Work out your salvation with fear and trembling?

Simon Pinchbeck:

And that's a great scripture.

Reverend Ben Cooper:

Isn't that right, squirt out your salvation with fear and trembling. Now, if you was to go to the book of Jonah, you will find God brought a mass stone to Jonah's life. The devil was not on any of the pages of that text, who brought the storm god I believe God. The gardener has got the folk in the UK and he is turning the finance markets over. He is turning religion over. He is turning over the soil. He is turning over the church he is turning us over. And there is a fear in this nation that we've never had before. You ain't got to worry about the devil behind go worry about Lucifer. You ain't got to worry about Leviathan on the way that the church and deliverance ministries lift him up. Because they are worshipping Lucifer more than they realize it is the God of all we've got to be fearful

Simon Pinchbeck:

of see when Jesus coming back. He's not coming back with a little lamb. Man. He's coming back. He's coming out on a white charger with a sword. And when he looks at you, my friend within

Reverend Ben Cooper:

burning eyes, he'll burn for your flag. He'll burn through your prophetic art paintbrush. He'll burn through every fiber of every bean. I think what we got to look at, to study about what what we're going to feel like is John on the island of Patmos, I felt as if I was dead felt as if I was dead. Yeah, I felt as if I was dead. And I could not turn a round.

Simon Pinchbeck:

We said it before you know. What are you going to say when Jesus because Jesus our Yeah, and he's not going to go and have my are you doing Hello? Look at these are my blokes. No,

Reverend Ben Cooper:

that's how religion and church and an art has portrayed him as the Lamb.

Simon Pinchbeck:

Can we back because everyone's friend coming

Reverend Ben Cooper:

back. You know, shaking hands and coming into Jerusalem on on a donkey with palm leaves. We can

Simon Pinchbeck:

read the scriptures. There'll be a separating of the wheat and the chaff. There'll be a separate video

Reverend Ben Cooper:

of what's gonna shake was due to Erin. What's it say?

Simon Pinchbeck:

Ben, the bundles of chaff get thrown into the fire tonight. It's time to get yourself right with God and realize our big this god is this God is and time to get on your knees on your face. And say, Father, not my will, but Your will be done. Wow.

Reverend Ben Cooper:

It comes back. We can't all this conversation, everything that's going on around the world. It comes back to two things, faith or fear, doesn't it? Faith or fear? God? Or no God? Where you got your faith? Where are you putting your faith?

Simon Pinchbeck:

Is it in? Where are you putting your trust is in God? Or is it in the world system? Now we can see a breaking of you're truly born again. And if you truly have faith in Jesus Christ, yeah. Then you are free from that world system and you are in the

Reverend Ben Cooper:

kingdom because the scripture says who the sunsets free is free indeed. You're free. You are free this morning, wherever you are, when you capture this back, whatever timezone it may be in your world, God loves you. Your circumstances are smaller than a grain of sand. Your situations are smaller than a grain of sand. You You are blessed, you are anointed, you are filled with the living God. Whatever way you look, you know, it's very interesting, isn't it? religion and church in the world is trying to make us into character we're not when God looked at Gideon, and what did he say to Gideon? You're not who you think you are. But I'm the least in my clan, my family, but you're not. I see you as a Warrior, warrior. Me Lord. Maybe I'm just I'm hiding from the enemy. I'm, I'm doing something that I shouldn't do in a situation that doesn't fit. I'm using stuff that shouldn't work, but it's all I've got But you're not who they say you are.

Simon Pinchbeck:

That's very important. And I think anyone listening to this Ben see could see should should know that God sees them as a warrior and sees them as a warrior for him. Yeah, if you choose to let everything else go and, and be a warrior for the Lord, let him work. Let Jesus work through you because it's never what you can do for Jesus or even what Jesus can do for you. It's all about what Jesus can do for you and what he's done for you. And what he's done for you. Yeah, that you know, there are many people word in response to me, what would Jesus do well, is what was Jesus already done? Because he's already done it. Actually,

Reverend Ben Cooper:

wristbands are made of plastic.

Simon Pinchbeck:

Oh, yeah. Well got one it's made a sack, or whatever it is. But listen to this bent. Jeremiah, one, five. We know it's a famous verse. He says, Before I formed you in a wound, I knew you before you were born, I sanctified Mr. dangereux. You're a prophet of nations. He said, and and listen to this, if you're worried, look, don't just get into the Word because in Luke 12, seven, it says, it says this, Then he says it? Well, if we go back to four, and he says, and I say to you, my friends, do not be afraid of those who killed a body. And after that have no more than they can do. But I will show you whom you should fear fear him who after he has killed has the power to call you into hell. Yes, I say to you, for him. You're not five are not five sparrows sold for two copper coins. And not one of them is forgotten before the Lord. Wow. But the very hairs on your head on number, do not fear. Therefore, you are more valuable than many sparrows is saying do not fear. Do not fear. Do not fear. And he's saying don't I've got you. I love you. But have a reverent fear of me because I can I can. I can separate you put your trust in me Do not fear. Yeah,

Reverend Ben Cooper:

I've been called up in a moment for 25 years. And I respect the movement and I love the movement to a certain degree, you understand what we're saying? But now is not a time to be looking at the movement and the denote denomination and looking at the world but he's actually Hebrews chapter 12 verse to keep your eyes on the author of The perfecter of your faith. Keep your eyes on Jesus. Because Jesus is your supplier. Jesus is your healer, Jesus is your Jehovah Jireh God loves you, whoever you are, you know, you look at the book of Revelations, we see the four horsemen. You know, when you study that in times the the the rapture of the church, the eschatology, what end is to common all that we are seeing this being for played before our very eyes. And if you are in fear this morning, the scriptures at Simon's read out. They are penetrating your very being. God loves you, He has wrapped himself around you. And there are arrows trying to get to you, but they cannot get to you because God is with you. There's a fire around you. There's an anointing on you. You are a warrior, you are a son, you are a daughter of the living God, you will achieve you will not get caught in all this stuff that's happening around us. God will put food on your table, he will put shoes on your children's feet, He will supply don't worry about fuels going up to one seven or later to paneer hit two pounds. Very soon. Don't worry about the gas. Because the Jezebel wants us to be in fear. But God the scriptures Simon has brought to the table this morning. It's been powerful and has been beyond beyond beyond Simon bring us to a wrap not chicken wrap. Wrap wrap this up my friend. Because this is big today, isn't it?

Simon Pinchbeck:

Yeah. And I think I think you're right Ben, I think there's a God there that loves you and He loves you so much that he wants you to come to him. He wants an in relationship with you. And we say intimate and I you know for many people that they struggle with that but I don't care because it is an intimate relationship he wants a personal relationship with wants you to come to Him through His Son Jesus Christ. And I would say a data to anyone out there if you're searching or if you listen to this for the first time you're searching, I'd say God wants you to pull you in to his arms but you have to do for His Son Jesus Christ. And I'd say to anyone out there any Christian out there who says Listen, any born again believer, get into the Word get into the Word of God find get the descriptors that we've we've said get we said it last week. Get it in under your belt. Because there is a God that loves you that God wants to take care of you. But he needs you to come to Him. I want you to put all your trust in Him. As Ben said, you know, bring to me all your burdens and I will give you rest come to him. There's no fear in love and God loves you.

Reverend Ben Cooper:

Yeah, Simon that's great. You know there is no fear in love could perfect love casts out all fear. You've been listening to Simon or myself this morning. #Christian Straight Talk, get out, grab the book, order it on Amazon. The first one will really blow your socks off. The second one will really blow your ears off. That's on its way out. Thank you so much for joining us. You've been listening to us here at#Christian straight talk. You can find us on the socials God is moving through this. This is this belongs to God. This is not about us. This is about him. But today this is under the series of fighting talk and the title was and is how big is your God. God bless