Hello and welcome. Thank you for joining us today here at Elim church as you join us for our podcast this morning or the afternoon or the evening, wherever you may be. Across the world. We thank you so much for joining us your journey myself, Reverend Ben Cooper, and we have Sandra Robson with us this morning. As we get back into the position of the persecuted church, or the suffering Church, we haven't done a podcast for a few weeks, but we're back in the saddle and we are across the mics. And Sandra is blessing us this morning. With some scripture and some information. This ministry that Sandra has is in is a enormous ministry. It is growing by the day grown by the week, you know, the world of the persecuted Christian is a very interesting place to study. And today's title is refugees and Bible smugglers. You know, I think we may be in open doors or we release it International. In both today Sandra, good morning. Good morning. Lovely to see you again. Sandra. lovely to have you with us. We're back. We are back. On the other side of the mic give him really busy with work and everything, just the general humdrum of life. But here we go. We thank everybody around the world listens to these podcasts, we just want to say We are really blessed to see the 1000s of downloads across the earth. Whatever your time zone is, wherever you are today, we thank you from the very bottom of our heart. As you share the stuff from Buzzsprout, Spotify, I Heart Radio, Amazon music, and many other social platforms. God bless. And good morning. Well, we're in that we have the title. Yes, refugees, we're in a very unusual position, aren't we at this month? Refugees? Yeah,
Sandra Robson:it is. It's a hot potato isn't it really, really is. And particularly Yeah, but we last time, we were looking at the top 10. And I had this little book from open doors and and that was Afghanistan, North Korea, Somalia, Libya, Yemen, Eritrea, Nigeria, Pakistan, Iran, and India. And all these places people are fleeing for their lives in in many cases. And obviously, we've heard just on the news about this earthquake in Afghanistan. Yeah, and that's going to affect a lot of people, and cause a lot of upheaval, and of course, sadly, there's going to be deaths and a lot of injuries. And we do pray for the rescue workers there. And again, we know, you know, really pray for the Christian community, they're, you know, that's underground. In some know how it's been affected, because they won't be getting their help, you know, so, but pray for any of the workers and people, you know, because they'll, they'll there'll be less less to receive anything. And, of course, it's very dangerous for them to say who they are. So it's a very, very difficult situation, as we know. And so that's one thing. And this week, I was looking at something and found out that it was refugee week. And so that's an international thing, and is a secular thing, and also a Christian angle to it as well. And they've particularly said for this year to be thinking about healing, and praying for people to be healed from trauma from you know, being a refugee. And so that made me think about open doors. We talked about trauma centers and and the importance of it. So we're gonna have a little look at some things from release International and open doors because released International, I have done some articles in their latest magazine about Christians having to flee because of violence, and because of war and different things. You know, in this case, it's the Fulani militants attacks in Nigeria, and also in Burkina Faso. So we're just going to read a few things are there's so many eyewitness accounts here of things that are going on. We know there's been an escalation in the violence in Nigeria is even touching into the south, wondering if that's going to, you know, make people wake up and see that it's on their doorstep because they've been very sheltered from it. And, you know, and whether that affect the way the government sort of looks at things and sees that this is targeting the Christians and it isn't just, you know, a war about turf or, you know, other things that have been said that I'm going to read about. So, first one is about Daniel, and he said arm flu Fulani militants attacked his village, and they heard gunshots from the distance and his sadly he lost his wife and five children in the attack. He survived with two children. And he is now in a camp for internally displaced people in can do an estate and they can do an estate has been really targeted by the Fulani. I decided to leave the community for the fear of another attack. Since they have threatened to come back and attack again. He said, We truly appreciate it and pray that Lord will bless those organizations that have made it possible for for food relief for us. So he wants to wants to thank everybody. And then there's a lady Zook where, and she is also in one of these camps. After our last meal. We went to bed. When we heard gunshots in our village, we decided to run into the bushes for safety. While we ran our homes were set ablaze by the attackers. My house my house Solon were burned to the ground. Since then I've been in this camp struggling to survive. But she reflects on her present circumstances. She says God has used kind hearted people's supporters. It is my prayer that these evil doers who attackers will come to repentance. Wow. So it's a 1000s of people are now living in these camps in Nigeria. 5000 people, including infants and elderly are in very difficult conditions, and released international have been visiting these camps. And they've been giving rice beans, sugar, vegetable oil, salt, and laundry soap, and all packed in buckets. And they've also been supporting a well established Bible based trauma healing center. And and then this person who's supporting the minister who's helping said on behalf of the entire congregation, all the villages we appreciate the support you've shown to us in Christian love. We are very grateful and we accept your hand of kindness with much gratitude. And then a lady here she's pictured here her store was burnt down and her home and she says we were asleep at 11pm Then we heard gunshots. So it's you know again, the same sort of thing I managed to run into a maze plantation houses were burned. I lost my in law and my son that night. I this other lady my house and provision store was burned after the attack. They came to the camp just with my you know my close, major source of livelihood. Farming has been taken away from us and we cannot access our farms again for fear of attack. We lacked blankets to keep warm at nights I'm grateful to those who are thinking of us. May God bless and replenish you
Reverend Ben Cooper:Sondra just looking through he been reading have been listening and just looking through some articles on that refugees in the displace church in the world of the persecuted church is always been there, isn't it when now we think we've got this new word come into the arena of when we look at the word refugee, you know, persecuted Christian, they've been together they for for many, many, many years. It just seems to be that there's been a highlight doesn't there there's been a highlight of maybe what we've seen coming across the channel across from a covenant across from Europe and everything. But when you look in the Bible, when you look and you follow what we've been following for many years, the word refugee is has been alive and well for many, many generations, isn't it? So it's nothing new to the persecuted church to the suffering Church as we see this. But I believe this is a good time because the world is being alerted to how many people are displaced. Yes through religion, and how they're being stripped back, but how long have these ministers that were looking at been involved in this mission work that's been almost happening under the radar. But all of a sudden, you know, the world, you know, especially in the UK, there's this big press for refugees, and which is right and true, and about time that it was taken up, most definitely. But in the world of the persecuted church, we have seen this for, from from Christ days, you displace Christian, the Christian that has been made a refugee that has been martyred for their life been pushed out because of their belief. So this is nothing new, is it? No, this is just being accelerated. This is a quickening, we are seeing, and thank God for social media, because it's making it easier accessible to get the information. But I'm afraid to say that this is never going to disappear as it this is increasing week after week.
Sandra Robson:And it's because of ideologies. I mean, we know that in these areas, whether Muslims, and this is our MC, is to do with this wanting to build a caliphate saying that there needs to return. And so they're one set, you know, to turn it over, because they see Christians as the infidel. And unfortunately, I was hearing there's a guy just come back from Ghana, and he was saying how the church has got mixed up with money. Yeah, most definitely. And, and so he says, Well, this is what they see. And so they just tar everybody with the same brush, they think that the these money, these ministries are just there to get people's money. And, you know, the pastor's have flashed lifestyles, and, you know, if you're, you're to be blessed, you should be blessed financially. And then you have the contrast of the the persecuted church, you know, where they have rich in, in their love the rich in the Gospel, the rich in Christ. And, and so it is that refining that's going on, you know, it's terrible, what's happening, and it's awful, and it shouldn't be happening, and governments shouldn't be turning aside and, you know, not doing anything, you know, and that's another point, I'm gonna come to later what we can do. But as he said, There is a refining going on. And this is what this lady says, at the end, you know, whatever it was, this one notes, the next thing I was going to read about about Burkina Faso, and the violence came there in 2019. And, you know, she says, Well, how did it start out? It's definitely singling out Christians. She says, they see they see you're a Christian. They target the families. They know they kill people, they see them coming out of church, they target them. I see women who were covered. And then she says for the first time, in 2016, I saw women who were covered completely in black with only their eyes showing. It was a sign for me that something was changing. Very soon, there were more than 600 jihadist schools in Burkina Faso.
Reverend Ben Cooper:Massive. Yes.
Sandra Robson:And they were training normal people to become jihadist fighters. How did this happen? She says, and she's well, it's the poorest country in the world that's receives low unemployment is high, the people who are ready to listen to the jihadists who said, if you are poor, and uneducated, whatever they tell you, you will believe and if they offer you money, you will do anything you can today she says that the same process of radicalization is taking place across the Sahara, which is the whole of the African, you know, desert area, and hotspots beginning in different areas. And when you look at the bigger picture, you can see that they are connected. And I believe that's to do this caliphate, teaching. I'm a little afraid. Now, when I look at Africa, many people try to say that these are simply Tribal Wars. But so much of what we see is the radicalization of Muslims, the jihadist trying to make an Islamic state of great of great Sahara. It is very obvious that this is a religious conflict met but in the end it says in the middle of this trouble God is at work. Suzanne said the church is growing under pressure. And what had once been a queasy mix of analysts, Muslims and Christian practice is now being refined. The church has begun to change people are growing in faith and have courage to keep their faith In a peaceful country, life is evil easy. You can have a good job and still forget to open your Bible. So she said that's how things were. Yeah. So now, people are recognizing the importance. And here you go the Bible. And I think that's the you know, thing that all just saying no, about Bibles and the importance of the Bible. And it remains, it reminds me that freedom and peace must never be taken for granted. Maybe one day these could be lost even in my country. So what I see change challenges me to stay strong in my faith. This has become a wake up call for the Christians in Burkina Faso. And it's a wake up call for us all. The clock is ticking. Now it doesn't say she's from, from Poland. She's from the lady Susanna, who's working there is from Poland.
Reverend Ben Cooper:So we have radicalisation. We have an interesting word that's coming to his Bibles. I believe that this this is a serious move from the Lord that we've never seen before where God is stirring people for, for the Word of God, I believe that this is a global move. I honestly, do you believe that we're even within the UK, the word Bible is coming up a lot, I really believe because of where we sit in the timeline of the coming of the King of glory. But when you look at radicalization, and then you put money into the mix, and you put education and a lack of education, as you said that they're going to follow whoever if they're making this look sugary and looking, looking sweet look, after you we're going to look after we're going to supply we're going to do we're going to help people don't
Sandra Robson:really care for you know, all they want is your money, come with us and
Reverend Ben Cooper:follow us. We will give we will give you hope. And we will give you a future, we will protect you. We will be your family, we will be there offering all this stuff. But with hidden agendas, yeah, these big hidden agendas. Unfortunately,
Sandra Robson:people get into it, and they can't get out.
Reverend Ben Cooper:There, they'll be killed themselves. You're taken away can
Sandra Robson:see those things. Other, you know,
Reverend Ben Cooper:have the liars coming on board.
Sandra Robson:Well, how things have happened in Yeah, it was just thinking of, you know, communism and other things. Get into it. And then they just can't
Reverend Ben Cooper:get out. Trapped. They're trapped, literally trapped in prison within
Sandra Robson:any you know, the only thing they can do is cry out to the Lord. Yeah,
Reverend Ben Cooper:but God, God is moving very powerfully isn't a God, God is moving through this instrument, the persecuted church. And I also believe that the West West is eyes will be being opened, I believe our eyes will be being open to the persecuted church, because of what is coming our way. And what is already on the shorelines of the UK. Regarding persecution not regarding the refugees not not even that doesn't come into this. But what is coming to the believer, if you are a Bible believing believer, you are having some serious issues that have got to be dealt with in your workplace within if you work, whatever area of work you have, there is persecution coming to you as a believer against your faith. Really powerful time to be alive, interesting things that are going on. But as we look at this Bible smuggling where does this come from? Is this going on?
Sandra Robson:Yes. And it's been going on a long, long time. And it's, you know, I mean, it's it is the foundation of open doors.
Reverend Ben Cooper:The foundation don't know
Sandra Robson:that brother, Andrew, he took a trip to Russia. And while he was there, he felt the Lord's saying to him strengthen what remains and he said well how to do that. And they believe that that is through the Bible, because they didn't have Bibles. Bibles were being taken away printing presses were being closed, closed down. And so people didn't have access to the Bible anymore. In so like with the Iron Curtain. You know, Russia was a closed place, the Soviet Union. And so this this lady has, you know, is really making a play about Bibles and giving money for Bibles. And she has allowed open doors to now she's an elderly lady. And she's now allowed open doors to print her story because she was a Bible smuggler. Yeah. And so, yeah, I
Reverend Ben Cooper:one interest in life to be normally you'd think it'd be about narcotics, pharmaceuticals, it'd be money. It'd be all types of things like that, but have a life of smuggling Bibles. What a fantastic press on life that is smuggling by eyeballs.
Sandra Robson:So this was not the 1980s Oh, right, okay that she was doing this.
Reverend Ben Cooper:Let's hear a bit. Let's hear about this fantastic machine that was smuggling Bibles.
Sandra Robson:So this lady was called call down. And she says the phone rang. And they said, and we've been praying for you, and we believe you're meant to be the next person to visit the Soviet Union smuggle Bibles. Wow. It was early 1980s. And there was an invitation for a two week trip to deliver 20 bibles to Christians in Russia and Ukraine. And that's why it's significant. Because we know what's going on now in Russia
Reverend Ben Cooper:and Ukraine. And in all fairness, what alone number but, but so it's only 20 Bible to begin with, to begin with. But what a phone call was, well, yeah, we've been praying and we believe we believe you are. Yeah, that imagine taking up that mantle. Yeah, I've seen Yes. Okay.
Sandra Robson:Yeah. But she said that she had been prepared that she said that, in 1964, she'd visited the Soviet Union with an ice skating group. And it had been an eye opening experience. But at that time, she wasn't a Christian. She said, I saw a lot of awful restrictions. We saw a lot of cruelty with the way they treated the people. It was a marked contrast to the other experiences on the trip, including a group dinner with the with the leader of the Soviet Union at the time. So then, she says said and Chris Christmas 1972. My My brother just that year. And he'll be 50 this year. So it shows how long. So she said on Christmas morning, God sent an angel who pushed me out of my parents home and took me over the road to a little church. And she said, I explained, I experienced such joy and radiance of people there. And she asked a lady what was going on. And they said, We know Jesus, don't you. And she said, by the end of it, she knew Jesus herself. Wow. And then three years later, she went on a mission trip with YWAM to 12 countries, including Russia, and Ukraine
Reverend Ben Cooper:YWAM, there's a there's powerful.
Sandra Robson:And so she was bothered about doing this, she knew that there were risks about it. And she prayed about it. And she and she got the verse from Isaiah 52, verse 12, and it said about God being her rear guard. Now it was very significant because she'd been given a coat. And there were pockets at the back, and between the lining and the inside. And that's where she could put the Bibles. And so he would be her rear guard, it made for a heavy coat, which and could not even take off on the plane. So she said I had adventure after adventure, underground churches, secret meetings with believers to deliver Bibles. And she went with somebody else. So she went the very biblical and TOS with another lady called Ruth. And she says, Sometimes we'd have to put coats over TVs to cover potentially potentially hidden cameras, or communicate in writing to keep meeting secret. On one occasion, they had to follow a little girl at a distance as she led them to her father, who was also smuggling Bibles into the region. So she says, you notice this, she's well, she's very humbled to think that she had a part in the fact that, you know, Ukraine has become, you know, the word God has really spread in Ukraine. And many of the churches have come together in prayer in this very difficult time of this conflict. And she's just saying Open Doors want to see people meet Jesus. And she says, Don't hesitate, go for it. So she's saying, you know, call if you have a call to go call and not to hear but there are other places where there's a need for Bibles. Also, you know, I know that money is hard pressed, but God says He will give us our daily bread. And that's physical and spiritual. And people need that their bread they need the Bible, that is the Our Daily Bread more than our sustenance for day to day by word Bibles, the word of God is so important. So if you have any little me I'm going to do some myself. So I really feel very drawn drawn to to putting some money to for bibles to get Bibles out. You know, there's Bible Society that's open doors. There's all sorts of different ways. There's Gideon
Reverend Ben Cooper:Gideons. Yeah, very, that's very powerful. Do
Sandra Robson:we, we have a window, and we need to get those Bibles out. There's a, you know, people are looking for hope. And people's hope in the persecuted church needs to be raised. And as we're talking about refugees, I believe some of them will have Bibles, and they will have taken them to where they're going. And they will be bringing that hope. And there are people also, Rudy to pray for the workers and partners that go out to these places. And they go on bicycles. And I was reading this morning in this extreme devotions. And this is what brought me to talk about Bibles was the fact that this is from a lot a long time ago. And then this one is, could be fairly recent. But this was this was just a little analogy first, about the importance of Bibles. So it says the smoke of the train wreck was thick as cries the bag near came from the sea of passengers who, who's bleeding broken bodies lay amid the ruined cars. So imagine this is about life, not about a train wreck, but about life, general life among the wounded and dying walk to surgeon who was harmed in the collision. His luggage, however, had been lost in the conflict, confusion, and he cried out my tools, my tools, if only I had my tools. With medical instruments, the man could have saved many lives with his bare hands, he stood virtually helpless watching as many died today persecuted, persecuted churches like that surgeon. They have the knowledge and the willingness to save many lives caught in the wreckage of communism, or priceless Islam, or other religion. What they lack are the tools. hear the cries of your brothers and sisters in captive nations wrote pastor, Richard Wurmbrand, who was founder of release International, when he first came to the United States, they do not ask for escape, they do not ask for safety or an easy life. They ask only for the tools to counteract the poisoning of their youth, the next generation, in this case with atheism, they asked for Bibles, how can they spread the word of God if they do not have it? Christians in restricted nations cannot provide these tools for themselves. They count on Christians in free nations to help give us the tools we need, they say, and we will pay the price for using them. So that really, really
Reverend Ben Cooper:slowly stops you in your tracks. Because Bibles, obviously as the word of God, we understand what the Scripture says about the Word of God. And how important is to study to read and to be into the Word of God. And I'm afraid to say the UK is so thin spiritually regarding the Word of God. But this is really interesting that this is happening at this particular point, I honestly believe and I can see what's happening here, the persecuted church around the world is being fed with Bibles and the UK is hitting and will hit a famine point, a real dangerous point. So everybody that is listening to this, I would urge us to pray for the UK as well that the UK get into the Bible. Because we fall into a very dangerous bracket with no biblical we are so lacking Bible teachers, real teachers of the Word of God, this is fantastic smuggling Bibles, and giving Bibles to the persecuted church is really needed. And we need to pray like never before. Because the atmosphere I don't like to use that. But the feeling the understanding that the weight where we sit within the heavens and the coming of Christ. This is endtime prophecy. This is this is very serious. And we thank God for the Bible smugglers and for the word that he's getting out. But the UK, we seriously need to pray. Very interestingly, just coming off off slightly off of where we are targeting this conversation. But at the very beginning of Loctite locked down, I had a clear word from God to remove all literature from this church that was man driven, and only have Bibles on the shelf we are living in and that was The very beginning of lockdown. Now we are hearing and I know that Bibles are being smuggled into areas that we never thought that you will get to. But what we have, we have this massive press of Bibles going into all the world and the UK is suffering desperately. We need to pray or as we pray, everybody in the open doors, everybody listens to all this stuff and what we're involved in the UK is biblically illiterate. You know, we please God, you know, we are looking at across the world, we are looking smuggling Bibles all around the world, when actually, we are in a desperate position as well. Very interested in signer that even lead to Bibles. You know, the persecuted Christian, what does the Christian want these persecuted? Well, the word of God? Yeah. When there's persecution, when his heavy persecution? God, God gets you the word. The word comes to you. Yeah. Yeah. And we haven't experienced persecution yet in the UK. So when it hits hard, yeah, there will be a famine.
Sandra Robson:Yeah. I mean, I was speaking to a missionary the other day, and hopefully it will stay more. But yeah. And he was saying what's most difficult for him was coming here,
Reverend Ben Cooper:coming from the UK.
Sandra Robson:Yes. Then he said, Well, he didn't have words.
Reverend Ben Cooper:No, because you can't words this. He was really struggling.
Sandra Robson:When he said it is such a mishmash of everything, all sorts. He he left 30 years ago. And he's just had to come back because of COVID. Yeah. And some months. And so what we find, he said, you know, he's been out of the country for
Reverend Ben Cooper:all these years, all these years. And he's living living where he's been living, experiencing persecution, higher levels of everything. The presence of God is moving out there. And then he comes back to the UK. And it's like walking into a mortuary spiritual mortuary.
Sandra Robson:Yeah, it's dead. Yeah, it is. Yeah, I virtually did. Yeah. He said that. He's, he's, he's sort of desperate to get back out again. Because yeah, because where? Yeah, you know, it's going on in the area. Interesting. Yeah. So that was a bit sort of
Reverend Ben Cooper:that's, it's heart wrenching. Isn't that Yeah, to hear, you know,
Sandra Robson:but I sort of well, yes. You know, so. I mean, I don't know, you know, which, which churches is I think they're moving around to talk to different churches while they're here. But
Reverend Ben Cooper:even if you drop into many different denominations we've got we've got to be careful this conversation because it's gonna come off but but as it's Bible relevant, it is relevant for every denomination, as soon as the church that denomination comes away from the Bible, it ceases to be the church. So we are very thin, as in Bible believing churches.
Sandra Robson:Yeah. But what he was saying, again, which is what I've always felt with this, and what Lord said to me is this is what I'm we're talking about is yes, we want to pray for our brothers and sisters. But it's a two way thing is that is this is that helping us they say, Oh, well, we're just like you we would you know, and then it came and it persecution came, but it's preparation, and everything is preparation. And we are blessed that we have all this preparation, like he was talking about what the things they do. And I'm thinking you know, need to stop be doing these things. You know, and taking this really seriously, I know I can be complacent. I'm get so busy with work. You know, I don't make that time for the quiet time. I prayed in the car going to work and sort of remember and take the turn off the praise music and think, you know, I should pray? I'll do, I'll pray now. And yeah, getting getting into the Bible, because the enemy wants to make you tired and strategy with this thing and distract you with that thing. And even yesterday, I mean, I was at school, and they were talking about children making goals. It's very motivational, but it's said about making plans and making goals and if you don't actually make steps to do something, you'll never do it. And I thought Yeah, you know, same thing you sort of say oh yeah, we'll do that but you got it and it's saying about work and that it was saying about you have to be committed and you need to put work in an effort
Reverend Ben Cooper:the Bible says to be eager
Sandra Robson:about for the children in in getting getting their dreams who have same dreams are not you know, nothing, you know, nobody will reach their dreams unless they actually think okay, what do I actually need to do? Am I going to take that half an hour to do it? And it's the same in the Bible? And you know, it's so easy just to think, Oh, well, you know, I'll do this, do that, and then I'll do that. But here people know, you know that how precious that time was that they had to spend with Bible for God to plant those seeds His Word in their in their lives because it has been their lifeline when things because we don't know, it just happens just like that. Like they said, they went to bed one morning, and the next thing they were running in the bushes, and they haven't got anything, you know, and it's it is, and I do think it's a warning, I do think it's come on, you know, don't be complacent. I mean, is it to do with the virgins and their oil, you know, some had their oil and they were ready, and the others weren't ready. But I do feel there's a real urgency about about this
Reverend Ben Cooper:very big agency, you
Sandra Robson:know, globally, as well, because I've got down here about act, you know, yes, pray for the healing trauma centers, and fight acts, act, MPs, freedom of religion and belief ministerial, fifth to sixth of July. I mean, I haven't done the the little postcard, I am going to do that. Today that's on my list of things to do. And so then, and there's information on how to do that how to get in touch with your MP, it is important. There are so many things these MPs are looking at, but as a bonus said, you know, they are looking about refugees. And so this is, you know, they'll think, okay, yeah, maybe I do need to this is linked. Because there was saying that the three things they want to get over to MPs that Islamic extremism that are being killed and also displaced. So, and then gender Pacific specific, religious persecution about women. So that's another thing. And then digital persecution in China, in India where, you know, cameras and all sorts of being your surveillance have been used to target Christians and minority groups. So that's what they want to get across the MPs. And we do have an opening at the moment. And so that's happening. So pray that MPs will get involved if you can send a note to your MP emails, your MP then do and then as I say, Bibles, that's the whole thing. It all comes back all my little lines here from what I'm saying, I'll come back to Bibles and, and that one of the ladies said, Isaiah 4031. Pray that we will run and not grow weary and these are the these people like Susanna, who's gone out from Poland to help these people amazing in Burkina Faso. Yeah, she's saying, pray for me, you know, the overall run and not grow weary, that I'll be able to minister give the word and provide, you know, for these people. And this lady, right, she says, she was on a bike. And then she was on a train. And she went miles she walked a paddle the wooden boat to get through a church meeting, she planted three churches. But she knew that they needed Bibles. She went 300 miles, three consecutive days to get to homing city where she knew some Christians from another country, were going to be there to bring Bibles. And they asked her, How old are you? And she said, I'm 22,
Reverend Ben Cooper:a 22 years, yes, traveled all that, for bibles to deliver to get a new, these are only small stories that are not small stories. These are only isolated individuals. And there is so much activity going on about Bible smuggling, Bibles, getting in people receiving you know, so what we have is a very interesting moment in time snapshot. We have the word refugee is getting stronger and getting higher across the world. We are also seeing amongst that we are seeing the persecuted Christian that word come in amongst that. But now we have something that is very powerful. That is very key to the center of this but it's been highlighted Bibles So when you put the three together, you have the early church, you have refugees, you have displaced Christians, you have the word of God, that is the Church of Jesus Christ. That is it. That is that simple. The three fundamental points of if you are persecuted, you are a real believer of Jesus Christ. If you are a refugee to some degree, and I do believe that we will start seeing it being turned on certain areas within the UK. And if you are lacking and you are struggling to get a Bible to get the word of God, this is real Christianity. We are there is a massive turn coming to the UK. And I can tell you, it's not a revival turn. It's it's about are you going to be for Jesus? Are you yes or no. So free areas son was born. And they are very biblical refugee, we understand what that means in a persecuted Christian, we get that and then the Word of God. So when you put the three foundational areas together, and they link, and they come together, almost like a collision, at that point, you have the the Church of Jesus Christ, the church has always been displaced. The church is always hungry for the Word of God. And you could say there is a refugee moment in someone's Christian lifestyle, where you've been ostracized and put aside and you're losing everything, you will lose everything. Drop your nets, come and follow me. Leave your house, let the dead bury their dead. There is so much going on across the globe, because we are living in end times. And Sandra has bought so much stuff to the table today. So there's a lot lot to get from Sandra, very quickly as we bring this just to pause just for a short while. How can we support what is the route? What is the best way anybody can support? If they think you know what I would like to just put a little bit of money into maybe this mission, Bible smuggling, release International, you know, just go on to the sites go on to the usual places.
Sandra Robson:Yeah, you know, first, you know, pray and the Lord will lead, you know, and you might see an advert or hear something if you listen, maybe to Christian radio, UCB or Premiere, you might hear something on that, if you're in this country, or wherever you are, you know, the Lord will lead. I mean, it might be that you have a Bible yourself, and you give it away to somebody. But, you know, act, if you have time writer, write an email, as I said, to your MP, and tell them about this event happening on the fifth and sixth. And so you know, how, how you feel that's so important. And, yeah, so. So that's it really strengthen what remains, that's what the word was for. Brother Andrew, it was, strengthen what remains. And so that's what we're to do strengthen what remains in whatever way. So it can be through prayer through giving, yeah, or through Bibles.
Reverend Ben Cooper:That's it. And also just to drop another quick one in there the Voice of the Martyrs as well. Yeah. You know, Bible smuggling we are living in in times we are living in very powerful time. Sandra, we thank you so much for sharing everything. Could you just pray us out of the studio, please.
Sandra Robson:Okay. So there's just so much going on, Lord. But I thank You, Lord, for your direction. Lord, I thank you, for the ministries that you have raised up for these days, Lord, and that there are trauma care centers for the for Christians to go to that you are working amongst all the wreckage, law, that you are bringing that refining and bringing out the gold of, you know, a true, true faith and followers of Jesus Lord, and we want to stand with our brothers and sisters, Lord, we want to help him whatever way we can, Lord. And we pray that you will just show us in these days what that is, and Lord that we won't take for granted what we have, and that we will use it well. And we will really appreciate your word, and that we have a Bible and we will remember those who who don't. And we pray for those who are bringing the Word of God in different ways. Protect them, look after them. And May they be successful in smuggling in the Bible's where you want them to be taken in Jesus name, amen.
Reverend Ben Cooper:Amen. Amen. Amen. God bless you. May God bless you wherever you are across the world today. May the hand of God always be upon you. You've been listening to Sandra Robson and myself, Reverend Ben Cooper, we thank you so much for your time thank you to everybody that listens to these podcasts around the other side of the globe, New Zealand, Australia and all the other places around the world. And we pray for every one of you, thank you so much for, for listening for download in May I have a wonderful day in the name of Jesus, but we are living in critical times. And the time is to get into the Word of God, to get into the scripture to get a Bible to get a Bible. If you live within the UK, I can assure you we are in a very spiritual desperation. We are in a point where the church has to rise. And I'm referring to the kingdom of God and we are going to see the kingdom of God rising not in revival form, but standing firm on the Word of God. Never give up. There's hope you can find us on Buzzsprout I Heart Radio, you can find us on Alexa, you can find us on Amazon music and you can find us on so many other social platforms. Please share all this stuff out. Give it a shelf, give it a poke, give it a push all over the place. Wherever you are today. Have a wonderful day. And God is with you. In Jesus name. Amen.
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