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Sandra Robson:Good afternoon.
Reverend Ben Cooper:You're back. crazy day. Yes. We're in riot Sandra, what have you got for us?
Sandra Robson:Well, we'll just recap about refugees. And we were doing that last and Bible smugglers just fine P Great. Well in that one, yeah, that it's not too late. And to send a ping an email to the MP, and for this ministerial of freedom of religion and belief that's happening on the fifth and sixth of July. So if you're in the UK, please do that. I've just posted off my little postcard to my MP, just in time. So hopefully that will get looked at I will also send a follow up email, just want to do as many things as we can we know that prayer is at the center of it all. But you know, whatever we can to be a voice for the voiceless, we must do now because we're seeing so many countries closing up there are openings in in some countries where the word but there are more countries are getting more and more closed, and for people to be able to freely worship. And you know, so
Reverend Ben Cooper:that's really good news isn't Sandra, you know, there's, there's really a lot of positive. And it's a really interesting move of Our Lord across the earth at this moment. And as the governance and everything tries to squash down, you know that the word of God continues to rise. And it's, it's great that that podcast we done the other week, a week or two ago, whenever it was regarding the Bible smuggling that was really encouraging. We thank God for that. But we're, but we're here today and we've got some Christian martyrs. I've noticed them across the socials, I started following some of them. The martyrs, you know, the Christian miles across the across the social networks.
Sandra Robson:So the Voice of the Martyrs, my my devotion, extreme devotions for this year, this is what I chose for this year, for your reading for the year. Yeah. So there's my readings every day. And I tell you, you think Oh, martyrs, oh,
Reverend Ben Cooper:hang on a moment. It sounds brutal.
Sandra Robson:I know. But it's really encouraging. And it's just amazing. And you've had this book a while Haven't you? Yes, I started it in January. So it's a reading a day.
Reverend Ben Cooper:It's a reading a day. Yeah, I remember you speaking about that before. So So can I have a quick look at that as you're speaking? Just yeah, kind of a quick look, I'll remove your card from where you are that way.
Sandra Robson:Yeah, there's a scripture there that I was looking at today. So this
Reverend Ben Cooper:is this is The Voice of the Martyrs and over 1 million copies sold. Yeah. And it's broken languages,
Sandra Robson:the beginning of like, you know, after, you know, Jesus died, and they and the, you know, disciples so it talks about, you know, some of the historical things said about the disciples and what's it called? What people what they think happened to some of them you know, how they were crucified and things up to date up to date with what's happening so it's the whole of the you know, time lots of different stories, and most of them went to be with the Lord some of them they intent that you know, the persecutors intended them to go then but they didn't and they walked away and They came back to life, some of them wow. And they're, they're still so yeah, they're just amazing stories, you know that that I read, you know, every day. So
Reverend Ben Cooper:I'll tell you what I'll do before we get into this, Sandra, while you're speaking, I'm going to grab a picture of the face of that book. And I'll put it on the social network. So I'll do that. But it'd be great for the listeners to just to see what we're talking about. Because visuals is everything. So I'm going to put that up and on the social network for people to grasp, do you need this book for a moment? Okay, right. Let's go.
Sandra Robson:Yeah, so yeah, David, the martyrs is really something out of release International, that was started by their founder, Richard Burr. Brand. And but before that, I was looking at, I was talking with somebody from Barnabas, and and, you know, I was saying how I share things from the publications, and they have recently become Barnabas aid. So if you're looking for Barnabas Fund, yes, they haven't disappeared completely, they've just change their name to Barnabas aid because they feel that bond assayed is more what they're doing, they're aiding Christians. It's not just the fund, it's there to aid. So they've recently changed their their name. But so this particular magazine that I was sent, talks about the Democratic Republic of the Congo. And it fitted quite well with this day at the Masters because when I was looking at it, it talks about one of the well, it's this specific guy who's a Christian, who particularly encouraged others to believe in this in this area. But it wasn't recent. It was he he died in 1909. But I was just going to read about him. So he was called Isidore. I 18 when he gave his life to the Lord, and His great love of Christ could be seen in his commitment to pray and to evangelize. He chose to leave his home village and move to a large town hoping to find further opportunities for fellowship and sharing the gospel. He found himself working in a Belgium with a Belgium company on a rubber plantation. But the manager dis disliked, hated Christian Christianity, and took a dislike to Him. And He said to him, you have the whole village praying, and no one will want to work. One day he flew into a rage when he saw is the door praying during the rest period, and ordered him to be flogged with an elephant hide whip that had nails protruding in it. And then he encouraged all his workmen to do the same because they were so scared. They did so. But he didn't die from that. He, they wasn't given any medical aid. And then they tried to hide him from inspectors. But the inspector found him and he tried to help him. And Isidor survived a further agonizing six months each day praying to God, he declared before his death that he had forgiven the man who treated him so brutally. But he said, tell them that I am dying, because I am a Christian. That's his last words, tell them that I am dying because I am a Christian. So I thought that really sets what we're talking about Christian churches, and, and to today now, and sadly, there have been a bit bomb attacks. I was saying, Before that we sent some cards to some children who'd been caught up in a bomb attack, where they didn't realize there's lots of mines there from different walls and for many years, and, and they were playing and they lost their their legs or one of their legs and, and so we sent them cards and letters, and they were very grateful and they are, you know, growing in the Lord. And to this day, and on Christmas Day, sadly. This Christmas just gone. A suicide bomber bomber, suspected member of the Islamic group, called the ally democratic forces. So that are about in that area killed seven people, including two children celebrating Christmas at a restaurant in Beni, which is not sure if it's capital, it's a bit of very big city anyway. So it's still going on. Very sad. And attacks have happened in camps for internally displaced people. And they've, you know, particularly targeting a Christian minority group known as the Navi. I think it is
Reverend Ben Cooper:very difficult pronounciation I won't even go down. Why
Sandra Robson:a li Nalley. Yeah. And that's because their lands are rich with gold deposits.
Reverend Ben Cooper:Of course, it always comes back. Back to money control, many children
Sandra Robson:are working in terrible conditions. And to mine, cobalt, which is very valuable, yes, and necessary for lithium ion batteries used in mobile phones, tablets, and electric cars. And child labor is very common to 250,000 miners. And it's estimated that 40,000 of those are children. And these as young as three have been known to work in mind, some spend up to weeks at a time in the tunnels and mine shafts and they eat infrequently. So they're being really mistreated. Yeah, and a lot of those are from Christian families.
Reverend Ben Cooper:Okay, so Sandra, you're reading from
Sandra Robson:Barnabas Fund. Yeah. But now yes, I'm
Reverend Ben Cooper:just looking on the line. Yeah, I've got it. I'm just trying to Yeah, so the listeners can find
Sandra Robson:particularly being, you know, attacks directed at Christians and aid have distributed to lots of Congolese Christians. Okay, so that's just something to know about. So they've got a lovely land there. But this is just terrible picture here, too. It's these are the mines are no. Lies, three, that's what they were saying. You know? Yeah. So just really been terribly.
Reverend Ben Cooper:Yeah, the images that Saunders looking at, can I have a quick look, so I'm just speaking. So we're, we are in the back end of this magazine. And what we have are these great big chasm lead enormous great craters, you can see where they've been digging, and you know, that they've been digging by hand. And, and also, goodness gracious, when you look at the depth of that, what they've been doing these mines, and everything that's been going on, or explosive. And you can see when they talk about the brutality, and where people get buried, you can see, look at that size of them. Some of the children as young as three, were working.
Sandra Robson:I mean, it makes you think, you know, talking about electric cars, and, you know, helping the environment, but at what cost
Reverend Ben Cooper:extract. So on one level, it saved the planet. And on the other other level, which exploitation to the human being, and the cost of life, just so that we can run around in what we would label up as electric car. How very disgusting is that? May we say, look at these images. Children in labor camps is common for 255. Miners, China vitrify 1000. Sorry, as I read, I'm just reading that through look at Barnabas aid spent particular help in practical use with Christians. This is a really interesting read, it really opens your mind up to the distraction, the extraction of what we would easily put there. And they were there. So we can have electricity. We can drive around we can do what we think or what the government think of we are saving the planet when lives are being taken. For the extraction of the minerals and everything that is used. How bizarre of a world that we're in.
Sandra Robson:And sadly, we're talking about more children now. So these are martyrs do quite a lot on the children. Terrible killings, you know. In Nigeria, yes. So I've just read in there hit that headline, because it's just sadly a lot. Yeah. And then, you know, they're saying here about this Nigeria. So this is released International. This is their magazine for this, these two months, and it's helping families of Christian martyrs. So that that's the focus. And so this is about Reverend Abraham iser. And he had got involved and we've spoken about this before about how they're targeting people. And it's because Christians are making inroads into people groups, very strange, very, this person, he is he was a Fulani. Yeah, and as we talked about the a lot of the Fulani has have got radicalized Muslim, you know, the Nomad period, tending to be very nomadic hunter gatherers, and they want lands. And so now that they have been killing Christians, they feel this land and they want it and so it's very sad. But anyway, so this Fulani group had warned him because he'd been leading people to faith in Jesus. And he had been warned several times as he was possibly going to be a target for killing by the Fulani Islamist militants ravaging the villages in my NGO, my NGO, Abraham's said that he had a duty to preach and bring the Gospel to his people. And his what his widow, says, As long as you are a Christian, you know that someday we will leave this world. I know my husband is at rest with the Lord. I know also, the Lord will be with me and provide what I need for my children's needs. My biggest challenge now is where to stay. Because the house where my husband was killed, was our home. And we bought it and built it. It was the place where my husband built his ministry, and where we held meetings with missionaries. So there's been a lot of targeted killings. And they're now saying that and what's terrific on the next page is that, that now, the government of the northern part is virtually condoning it. I mean, this student I don't know how I miss this one. But on the 12th of May, Christian college student Deborah Emmanuelle Yakubu was beaten and stoned to death. Her crime was that she refused to take something of WhatsApp chat. She had passed her exams and thank Christ, and that he had helped her. And she was pressurized to retract the statement and apologize, Deborah, so they said this false accusation of blasphemy for the Islamic Prophet Muhammad because she had refused to date a Muslim according to sources.
Reverend Ben Cooper:His or her patron?
Sandra Robson:That's her picture of Facebook.
Reverend Ben Cooper:Can I have a quick can you hold it?
Sandra Robson:Yeah. And the thing is,
Reverend Ben Cooper:this is a young young woman, it
Sandra Robson:says, Nigerian President simply pointed out that Muslims demand respect for Islam. The disdain for Christians in Nigeria, have by fundamentalist and radical Muslims continues to grow, and is now being supported by many prominent politicians, Islamic scholars and humans.
Reverend Ben Cooper:So here we have, this is that young lady Look at that beautiful picture of her lesser social media image. And how are very ghastly I just cannot I just cannot believe I cannot believe that this was only a month ago, in the world. Well, in the world in which we live, I can actually so on May the 12, a Christian college student called Deborah her life was brutally taken stoned to death. How have very vile she wouldn't go out with them because she wouldn't go out because of obviously the radicalization and everything that goes along with that. So when we when we think that let's think about this, let's really, really just pray and think over this. We have a young woman that has just got our education that is really a beautiful looking young woman. She's blossoming in life and because she did not go down the route of being the girlfriend or dating whatever way you want to look at it. A Muslim man, boy, whoever, to radicalize them, they decided to stone her. That is fact we got the proof. It's before our very eyes. This this is just unacceptable. And shame on you the authorities that allow the you know, they're just they're always beaten and then stoned Deborah was beaten and then stoned to death after being falsely accused of the blasphemy. Islamic Prophet Mohammed because she had refused to date and Muslim According to the sources her body. Oh my goodness, yes.
Sandra Robson:That's why I didn't say Oh,
Reverend Ben Cooper:dear. Oh dear. Well, yeah. Um, yeah, this this listeners, listeners I tell you what, I'll tell you what we are living in very barbaric and extreme disgusting times. That we're not even going to read that last part. I just Yeah. So, Dear God, I just pray. I pray, Lord, that you will help us to understand why and not get so angry. And Lord, I pray for her family. And Lord, we pray for these governments. Lord, this is this is British government, British government.
Sandra Robson:Your eyes so important. So Sandra,
Reverend Ben Cooper:let me have a look. Let me have a quick pit butchers there. So what we have here we have this very important day. And it's very important moment that speak out for freedom of religion of your belief. This is absolutely unbelievable. Open Doors magazine, British government, politicians, leaders have a read of that article. And really find out what's really going on through these. These what we call religious organizations put to death, beaten, stoned, and then we won't mention the last part. Because it is just not acceptable even to read out in complete respect for that young woman. May God have mercy on your soul, whoever you are,
Sandra Robson:yeah, so she's another martyr. And I firmly agree
Reverend Ben Cooper:that's a very strong word, isn't it? Martyr, it means one thing. It's just the end, we understand what that means. And then it makes me really think about us here within the UK. Saundra isn't, isn't it? It's quite shameful, isn't it when you when you look across the church platform at the moment,
Sandra Robson:but I mean, this if there was a a broadcast, it was on UCB, and sometimes they get the head of release International to speak. And he he, after the news item, he spoke and said about this, the day, and he said that he wanted people to remember people's families, and also to think about our faith in as much as you know, to, to live in a way that it would that it would something of their their sacrifice, he was saying that as our brothers and sisters lived, yes, and, and died for their belief in Jesus. So we need to walk in a manner worthy worthy of their, of their death. And he's so he set that challenge. He said, You know, I pray that the church in the West will, you know, really appreciate what is going on, and the number of martyrs, that number of martyrs and I mean, I remember reading something, and they said, you know, we're prepared to die, but please make our death worthwhile.
Reverend Ben Cooper:Whoa, oh, my goodness.
Sandra Robson:So that's Afghanistan. And you know, when they say, nine, Nigeria, there was the pastor who said that I said, I'm prepared to die. But I want it to be, you know, worth worth, you know, that the church is worth. But they're obviously they're dying for Jesus, and they know that. But it has been a comment has been made. So I heard about, you know, Christianity, the church has been built on the blood of the martyrs, and it will until the Second Coming. And I was thinking about Revelation where it says, Revelation six, nine. And when he opened the fifth seal, I saw unto the altar the souls of those who have been slain for the Word of God, and for the testimony which they held, and they cried with a loud voice saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, until you judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth. Then a white robe was given to each of them and it's sad to and it was said To them, that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren who would be killed as they were, was completed.
Reverend Ben Cooper:What can we say the word of God has spoken. The Word of God has spoken there is a there's a real strong feeling in this studio today of, of what a martyr and what a martyr stands for, I really am being brought under conviction for what I see church in the UK to be, and I'm ashamed, I'm ashamed, really, I am literally ashamed of a mass percentage of the church within the UK framework. When I look at this the Voice of the Martyrs open doors, praise God, you know, all this stuff, you know, Trans World Radio, these great, great minister, these real proper ministers, these real godly ministers that go in and really set the captives free the Bible smugglers and then over here, we've got the mamby pamby Disney church going on, come on UK.
Sandra Robson:Yeah, we can learn from them. And the thing is, the enemy is close people's eyes, and they're not hearing some of this stuff. And they, you know, the media,
Reverend Ben Cooper:the media, see the British government.
Sandra Robson:And so I do pray that God will raise up more people to go into churches and to talk about these things. And for people to really take hold of it while they can and appreciate the freedom that we have
Reverend Ben Cooper:all the money that I've been seeing been firing out across this world, to humanitarian aid projects, which is great and wonderful. But UK, British government, come on, we are supposed to be at this moment, a Christian nation, you should be supporting the church, you should be British government, you should be looking and support in the Voice of the Martyrs. People that are what Christianity has made this nation from the very off off kick. And when you think about what we've come to, you know, UK Government, if you decide to push the Word of God out, no wonder we're sliding everywhere. Come on, put you put your hand and your person. Let's roll. This is frustrating today.
Sandra Robson:I mean, that's, I mean, what I was thinking about when you think about Tyndale, yeah, now thing is we have had persecution we've had, but we've had it in the past, in the past, years gone by, but
Reverend Ben Cooper:when you look, when you look at what we are looking at now, and some of the stuff we're looking at, and we're not reading it out, for obvious reasons, you're just skimming through what you're and I'm looking for it as well. You're thinking, Oh, God have mercy on us. I can see God is with them. And then you can sit and I'm thinking, God, where are you with us? We the UK church seriously, seriously, is in trouble, says no, it's
Sandra Robson:just complacency. Isn't it? Like, you know, when things are really good, you know, that's what the danger is, isn't it?
Reverend Ben Cooper:I think, yeah, complacency?
Sandra Robson:I do. Do look at Laodicea and think, you know, the lukewarm and I do pray, but I think it is knowing what's going on and the reality.
Reverend Ben Cooper:I think what we are missing Sandra that we can't, can't move away from it. Something that's very clear, is sound doctrine is missing. sound doctrine, biblical, strong messages from the Word of God. That that is what we need.
Sandra Robson:Very hard in the schools now extremely just, it's just
Reverend Ben Cooper:I've got friends in ministers that are trying to the ones that put the Bibles into hotels and go into schools. They're being pushed back everywhere. So we are seeing a big push back. And we are in that great falling away. So the UK shorelines are in for a very strong roller coaster ride spiritually because we have got a shot. We are like a sweetshop with religion. We've got everything you can a bit of this a bit of that I'll ever call or this I'll have a little bit of that I'll all sugar coated on it. We are in a sweet shop that, you know,
Sandra Robson:very confused when you do a one religious education lesson and you know, and we're doing something particularly like the year six where they've covered all the different religions. And you start talking to them about something because I had to cover every region, I go into schools and I have to follow whatever I'm given. And we were talking about Hinduism. And they started coming out with something that was nothing to do with that. And I was like, no, no, we're talking about this, you know, and they're just so muddled and then so, then you sort of say, right, Jesus, he was for the Christians and this is you know, so I do get get those sort of moments. And also, I think, why some people are behaving is it is to do with you know, Evolution, a lot of ideas and thoughts, because creation is gone, you know, being dismissed, you've got evolution. And that affects people the way they, you know, think about things. And then, you know, I get concerned, like the other day when I was in school are talking about the Ukrainian situation, and they're talking about hating people. And did I hate a word? You know, and so I tried to talk to them about that, but I didn't have very much time. But I said, careful how you use that Be careful about hate and what you mean. And, you know,
Reverend Ben Cooper:I hear that about hate crime. And certain religions, they actually hate the the other, the others without pressing triangle,
Sandra Robson:you know, no, I don't want to do it. But it's this thing that this is where persecution comes from. It comes from causing a problem. We don't like them, we're going to we're going to sort of make things difficult for them. And gradually, it becomes more than that. It's now we hate you. And once it gets to hate, yes. You know, things. Yeah, just escalate. So I do very concerned about, you know, some of the things being spoken about to children. So do pray for children, and they really need, you know, prayers because they're happening radicalized in different ways. It feels like, it's very difficult. It's a bit of a
Unknown:difficult area. Very difficult. Very difficult area.
Sandra Robson:Getting back to this bit what I thought we'd just go through, and the countries the top 50. Where I know, the have been masters in the years why I've been doing this so yeah. Afghanistan. Yeah. North Korea. Yes. Somalia. Ah, Tria. Pakistan, Nigeria. Iran. Wow. India. My Mr. Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Syria. China. Vietnam, Egypt.
Reverend Ben Cooper:Laos, violence. Absolute silence when you read this Bangladesh, goodness. The voice
Sandra Robson:Congo
Reverend Ben Cooper:silent there's absolute silence in here today. This is such a rarity. Yeah. Verity.
Sandra Robson:There's probably probably others but I don't know about. Yeah, of course, there is song you know, but um, yeah. And you're in the past, obviously, under control. Yeah, too. But probably there. There have been milestones in some of these other places, but I haven't been aware of, but yeah, the top 50 Yeah, so we do pray for their families, and particularly for their widows. There's some new widows programs, springing up to help widows, without the Lord for that. And we thank the Lord for the churches. And I was reading somewhere, I think about how, even when these pastors are killed, there are there is somebody there who will take over younger, but there's, you know, there is a desire to keep things go in, and wives often take on the churches as well. And they need that encouragement. We do pray for peace, and we pray for the Prince of Peace. We pray for courage, particularly in places you know, that are really under attack at the moment, like Nigeria and African places and India, which I'll be talking about in a following podcast. We pray for justice for the victims because sometimes they don't get any any justice. And they are, you know, said that it was their fault that these things happened. But a thank Lord that now in Egypt, a guy who was shot dead in his his shop that two men have
Reverend Ben Cooper:done is that the one when is that the pharmacist or the shopkeeper we've done a while back remember that what we've done a while but I wondered if it was the same well wonder if it's the same one way in front of his daughter was that the was that the one that was in the shop he was working And then they came in very brutal.
Sandra Robson:Well, this guy, he'd been warned. And he'd thought they'd already tried to attack him once, and they managed to kill him the second time, this load. But things are improving in Egypt and the leader there is, is very sympathetic towards minorities, and also who's appointed somebody in the judiciary. I'll bring that another time. That's a Christian. So that's a positive step. So he's trying to address the back, redress the balance. Yes. So we do pray for them. And, yeah, we do remember that, you know, as I say, there's something to learn, there is something to learn. And I'm always humbled by all and you know, and you just think about, you know, as you say, your own walk and how you do things and challenges you to think, you know, could we speak up more? You know, and so, yeah, so I was looking at Hebrews as well, where it says about the great cloud of witnesses. Okay.
Reverend Ben Cooper:UK church, I urge you to pray for the brothers and sisters across the world that are being martyred for their faith, the pastor's that are losing their lives, the families that have been torn apart. I urge you that wherever you are, to pray, to pray to pray.
Sandra Robson:Yeah. So it says, Therefore, we also since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight and the sin that so easily ensnares us, and that is run with endurance. Wow, the race that is set before us
Reverend Ben Cooper:was that biblical reference? Hebrew, Hebrews 12, Hebrews 12 And verse one.
Sandra Robson:So that's what they want us to do. They ran their race. Yes. And they want us to continue.
Reverend Ben Cooper:And it goes on to say does it in Hebrews chapter 12, verse two, keep your eyes on the offer perfecter of your faith. There we go. What a beautiful scripture. Keep your eyes on Jesus Church in the UK, martyrs, keep your eyes on Jesus, run the race, endurance, keep going. There's hope. There's hope. Yeah, sonderegger, about six minutes and about six minutes. You know, this has been a really interesting, very, uh, when I say slow, what I mean by slow, it's very calm, it's very quiet podcast. Because I think we can feel the strength of the severity of literally what we are looking at, I think there is a different move of God in on us today that is really opening my eyes for sure. I know that we have done this for a long, long time now the world of the persecuted church. And when we look at statistics, and when we look at the World Watch List, and we go through this and then we go through that, but then suddenly, when when you bring something to the table when you've actually got these, these fellow human beings, these believers and they you've got their face in front of you and you you're reading brutal stories. It certainly brings it certainly brings this this atmosphere of God help. Please, Lord, you know, so severe, isn't it? Yes, if we're gonna die, it's gotta be worth it. What aligned to drop? We're not frightened of dying. But we're gonna go out and glory.
Sandra Robson:Yeah. And it says, But rejoice that you put it participate in the sufferings of Christ, so that you may be overjoyed when his glory is revealed. That's one Peter 413. That was from my reading today. Praise God, Sandra. That's what they're desiring and their desire to see the church grow after them. And many have you think about Paul, he was a master martyr.
Reverend Ben Cooper:Yeah. And how the martyrs have gone before they've paid the ultimate price. But they're in glory. So they've paid this ultimate price. So they say that we are laying a foundation to make away so it's easier for you. Yeah, that's right. That's basically what we're getting. I will die for the gospel of Jesus Christ, right? On the strength that I go out in glory and on the strength for me going out on making it easier for you. And
Sandra Robson:that's what was said this Iranian, the, the pastor that was killed for his faith. And he that's what he said, and that, you know, that guy broke In which we have heard very much we haven't gone off the dialogue had to for security reasons, but he said that that was it that there had been a move from people being executed for their faith to them being imprisoned and it will be step by step so he was prepared to be imprisoned so that others could go free so others would live in free took
Reverend Ben Cooper:their place yeah sounds like Christ to me. I'll go to the cross so that you can have life when you bring all this together you when you bring all this together there is there is life in the blood the shed in the blood wow what a what a podcast today sound to a Christian martyrs that has bring a different feeling to the to the studio, but not in an unusual way but in a way of please God help us. There's a there's a feeling of calm of stillness of checking oneself walking with Christ, the church in the UK Well, the government in the UK Oh, Lord, please God album. You know, all these millions and a billion pound I think the day has been pledged to send her abroad. You know, and you think, come on UK. Look Within sometimes government look within the UK, God help us there we are on a bit of a bit of a bit frustrated today. You could get frustrated, but there we are. Sandra, we thank you so much from the very depth of our heart, and God willing, we will catch you this day next week. God is with us and what what would you what would you do? Just what how would you say? What is your passing passing comment to anybody that he's looking at these these ministers are the martyrs where can they go?
Sandra Robson:Well, I just thank the Lord for you know, the information of open doors and release International and barnas Barnabas aid and all the work they do but particularly release international with this highlighting this particular you know, need for us to remember those who've gone before us and their families. So release international VLOOKUP that website has lots of information there have been events around the country, you know, to to talk about it and to share stories and things and of the families too.
Reverend Ben Cooper:Okay. There we go. The usual resources, Sandra's saying that we normally speak from open doors, Barnabas aid, you know, the online stuff release international the Voice of the Martyrs isn't it all over the socials they're all They're there they're there for us to pray through to look through to support through and may God bless you wherever you are today might have been a little bit quiet in areas as in not so quick fired as we normally do. But you can understand that where we sit when you read these stories, it really and then you read the next line down and you suddenly realize what that what that person has gone from May God bless you and strengthen you in the mighty name of Jesus Christ. You can find us on Buzzsprout Spotify, I Heart Radio, but please share out all these podcasts that Sandra is doing on the persecuted church. The UK church needs to be educated, brought out of the Disney Land, the clouds and brought back to the earth god bless this nation please Lord, bring us to a place of repentance in Jesus name. Amen.
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