Good morning and welcome wherever you are today across the world, we thank you so much for joining us the podcast this morning is regarding and we are looking at the persecuted church as we always do once a week with Sandra. And we just want to welcome everybody across the world today, wherever you are, whatever your timezone is whatever your life looks like today, because this is the day that the Lord has made, we shall rejoice and be glad. And as we look and as we go a little bit deeper into the suffering Church and the persecuted church on the first of September, the schools within the UK are getting back. You know, that long hot summer is disappearing. Sandra, good morning. We are in Yeah, already. And we are in ADF international Christians in law, is that correct?
Sandra Robson:That's right. Just to remind people, that's where we were last week, we were talking about ADF International, because we said that on the 22nd of August was the day to remember those who have experienced violence. And that that sort of, you know, things happening to them, because of their faith and belief. So there was a Remembrance Day to Remember victims of violence and read it for religion and belief. And the these people ADF are an advocacy group. And they work on behalf of Christians. And they obviously need funding because they do it. You know, without these people being able to pay these people who are imprisoned in Pakistan and different places, just haven't got the ability to have a legal team. And so these people step in, and they also petition in different places. And they challenge about the law and the use of the law as in India and places like this that we've talked about. So I just wanted to highlight that. So another angle of how God is using people's gifting, and to protect and look after his children. And, and we've talked about so far, but bassy and how he's imprisoned on death row in Pakistan, and how people were praying and calling for his release because of his health condition. And as we know, in the last, I don't know, is it 48 hours, there's been terrible floods in the last few days in Pakistan. And so I just want to just to remember our brothers and sisters there because, you know, they're all caught up in this. And I was thinking, you know, they're just people, you know, and I pray that they aren't being asked, Are you a Muslim? Are you a Christian? What do you believe, you know, are on getting aid on getting help? I pray that in these times of, you know, a terrible catastrophe. People have come together, neighbors have come together and helped one another. And in that, that, you know, Christ will be seen in that. But we're also concerned about the aid getting through, and that it gets through to everybody. Christians aren't kept to the last like they have been in other disasters. So we pray for those who like Barnabas Fund, who go out there and different Samaritan person, all these people who go out to help when you know, these terrible things happen. So we do think about these people's terrible seeing them on strips of land between water. You know, it's a very difficult situation there. So just wanted to pick up on that latest news. Yeah. And then we touched on Help The Persecuted, which are another organization. And I've looked more into this, because I just had them on the internet. I was just looking on their website when I was here last time. And so I thought, well, I'll do a little bit more background on them and look at some of their stories. And it's very interesting. They work in a different way to open doors. Some of it is a bit the same and release International, but they are more focused. They're more focused on those who've come out of Islam, and are Christians. So they're converts and they're looking after them. They have field workers, safe houses and aid. And their focus they say is rescue, restore and rebuild. So I thought we'd have a look at some of the stories and how they are helping on the ground. So we've talked about these things. In brief, we might have said Edie these are things that happen in this country and you know your children can be taken away from you, your family may abuse you, but we haven't actually looked very much in detail of how that works or how that actually works out for individuals. And these are just some amazing stories and just shows how this particular organization help so
Reverend Ben Cooper:Andhra you are you in just before you go are you aren't you in help for the person I
Sandra Robson:am? Yes, help for the persecuted and I'm looking at, on the field, where it's has stories, it says from the field, and they've got a couple of different different stories about how they help and the people they've met. And, and their stories and it's so varied, it's hard, because I said, Oh, well, I can't do all of them, Lord, which ones to choose? So you know, we'll see how we go I've got some about women, some about families, some about people who didn't believe in you know, anything we're you know, we're atheists, you know, all sorts
Reverend Ben Cooper:of someone's Tom wants to get to this site, it's pretty easy. It's just type in help the persecutors right, and it's http.org and it's a quite a busy site. There's a lot going on. They got a lot a lot of stories, you know, you've got stuff in Lebanon, you've got loads you've got cost of following Jesus just following up all the way for our devastated across Muslim society is stuff funding. Yeah, you got, you got everything. There's always a busy, busy, busy site. So if you want to have another, it's got about their impact. It's got about the what they do. And what Sandra sign at the top of the tab. It's got from the field, and it says, Why are they persecuted? So there's a lot of information is a good site. You know, it says there, we've helped more than 46 46,000 persecuted believers in the year 66% conversion as a good site. Yeah. So anyone wants to have a look. So there's two sites there that we've been bringing your attention to, this week. And last week was ADF international Christians in law, and this week, we have Help Help The Persecuted. So there's a lot so other than open doors, and all the other stuff, you know, we thank God for open doors and all what we do with them and everything like that. But there's so much more out there. So please, please, please have a Google have a look around, you know, and let's continue to pray, right, Sondra, what have you picked up from the field? Yeah, so
Sandra Robson:mom's story is about student, Lady student and her family moved to Lebanon for her dad's job. But then, there was some family conflict, which caused their father to return Syria. And then her mother did too, and her siblings, but she wants to remain. But she couldn't remain there on her own. Because as a Muslim that isn't, you know, the done thing. So she looked for help. And she found an organization that supports women and fights against violence and exploitation. And she asked them for help. And through a series of things, she was in a group care home, and she was able to live safely and continuous studies. And then she felt heard the gospel at one of the group homes, and she felt that the staff there loved her more than her mother ever did. And she just asked them, you know why that was nice that it was Jesus and His love. And so she began to attend church. Then she realized she needed God's salvation. But she was afraid and reluctant to make this decision. Because as we'll find out, there's great consequences to these decisions for these people. But one Sunday, the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit, she really felt that he was there. And she felt that joy she had never experienced before. And Amir has grown in her faith, and she says she's now able to sleep at night because of the peace she's gained through Jesus, knowing that he holds her and keeps her safe. Even when she is most vulnerable. Her parents don't know that she's converted. And she's afraid that one day she'll be forced to return to Syria. She's taken off her hijab, which is a very public statement that she has learned the religion of Islam. Wow. And the this is the thing that is not the parents. It's anybody, anybody that follows Islam and the sewing interconnected so someone who lives nearby knows their parents and threatened this lady that they would tell her parents and And that, so that's like the beginning of it, and she's not being able to earn anything. She's still studying, she wants to go to university. And so this group out the persecuted are assisting this lady to continue her studies and support herself. They're also encouraging her to walk independently and confidently with God and, and that he will meet with her knees in Jesus Christ. So there discipling her. So Amira, like the calling her but obviously that's not her real name. Because like,
Reverend Ben Cooper:hiding, yeah, even by taking this off, then Saunder by taking this off, you're making a large, enormous, massive statement to your culture, your society, the people around you that I've removed myself from this religion. Yeah. So that is a physical sign. And then, obviously, if you remove that from your head, and you're out in the street, it's a clear indicator where you sit and what you stand for. So it's almost like if you take that off, you can't go out. If you go out, you're going to be threatened and you're going to be publicly shamed, and you're going to be people are gonna know who you are. If you're in an is if, if you're an if so to do that in an Islamic country. That is like, that's beyond, isn't it? That is a real massive statement to actually in a country that's pushing Islam is the state religion. And you go out without that headcovering you're coming against everything.
Sandra Robson:Yeah. So even though she no longer can count on her biological family, Amir knows that love and care, the love and care of the family of God, she can trust God and call him a call him and her. She's got strong relationship with him. So join us in supporting and praying for Amir with us for our safety and our growth in Christ and our studies and career plans, and that the family of God will be able to apologia and care for her where she is.
Reverend Ben Cooper:pleased. Yeah, prayers are needed. Yeah. Prayers are needed.
Sandra Robson:Yeah. So that's one story. And now a different story. There's Sam Rashidi, and he grew up as a Christian. And he believed that he needed to tell people about Jesus and help others. And so he became a leader in his church at a young age. And he managed to get a degree in biochemistry, and he got married and he has two children. And he was brave and shared his faith at work. And two of his co workers decided they wanted to know more and, and they came to know Jesus. And he directed people to discipleship. But then the parents have to the women that he had brought to faith and caused him problems and they started to accuse him, and they detained him and interrogated him. He was then kidnapped by a radical group for three days and taken to a cemetery where he was physically and verbally abused. They threatened to kill his children. Wow. And they also robbed his place of business. Yeah, and then he had to relocate. He didn't contact the police because he knew that if he did that, the things would escalate. So he left his family in a secure place for six months, but he was basically homeless, strapped slept in trains, and on the street. He couldn't stay with his parents or siblings because they were receiving threats. He found work in another country. But then the radicals went after him there
Reverend Ben Cooper:was relentless.
Sandra Robson:Yes, false reports were generated that I was embezzling money from his company and whose customers he lost his job and went to jail. Wow. And while in prison, yeah, this is the cost that kept coming at me about the cost, you know the cost of following Jesus, take up your cross and follow me, he says and count the cost associated and they are counting the costs. But he said in prison. He experienced the Lord in a deep and profound way. And he used the time to learn about him grown his knowledge and his love of Jesus. And, and then God answered prayers and he was released through as a human rights organization doesn't say a word. And then they found out about him and started to help him. And he has no job and no income. And he hasn't seen his wife for two years. But he continues to share the gospel. And they said, Please help people like him who boldly and unashamedly share the Gospel, knowing that they may pay a steep price for their faithfulness to Christ. And then there's another one where this guy, he wasn't a Christian. He was a Sunni Muslim in a Shiites area, and he was gasa because he wasn't a Shiite Muslim, and Iraq. He was blackmailed by Shiite militia is shot was confiscated. They kidnapped and tortured him. And but he survived. And then through another twist, as I said, God stepped in. And he was invited to church by somebody, and he gave his life to Jesus wash story. Yeah, amazing. And is a devoted himself to the Scriptures. Once his employees found out, he had converted, he was persecuted, they took, he was made unemployed. And so he thought about returning home and living with his sister in law. But once they found out about his faith, they kicked him out. And he was living in a car, oh, Lord, he sold his wife's jewelry, to provide food. And so that's when they found out about him. And they started to help him and a local team was able to secure plane tickets for his family to relocate. And once they arrived, they were provided shelter food. But he that's just for his his family, but he's else elsewhere. And so it says, they have a lightning fund. And it says, Help The Persecuted our team constantly finds themselves in situations where they must meet immediate crisis needs for Christians like her deal, who are under threat. And on the run. Our field ministry team is planted across the Muslim world for the purpose of rescuing those in imminent danger and offering instant assistance in the form of safe housing, medical care, trauma, counseling, and more. And so as we compare, we purchase bus tickets and plane tickets, what a lovely pay for hotels and buy clothes. So
Reverend Ben Cooper:it's rescuing is Prescott practical help rescue and Christian
Sandra Robson:rescue that was rescue
Reverend Ben Cooper:a rescue it made him.
Sandra Robson:So you know, that's a long haul thing. And they're looking after both of them. I don't know whether they've been able to reconnect. So a lot of these families are split up they because they have to look after their children and their wives
Reverend Ben Cooper:and ongoing work. What a financial strain that much
Sandra Robson:No, but so many of them because of their belief in Christ, who have had to leave their families and you know, so they will be safe and they're on their own. And, you know, we pray that they will be able to reunite. Another story, this guy was from Drew's origins. And he was unhappy with what he saw. He left is he became a Muslim. But then he wasn't happy with that because you said that Islam encouraged hypocrisy by focusing on external practices without the change of heart. Oh, wow. And He then returned back to his roots. But during his like, initiation, he started to feel that that wasn't anything either. And so he decided that he wasn't going to have anything to do with that. And then one night, Adam was visited by a beautiful bright lights, he heard a voice say you have arrived and experienced it. indescribable joy. He then was at work and happened that a Christian person was at his workplace. And another merchant came into the store and made a comment. He said, I can buy 100 gods with my money. These words annoyed Adam. But as Christian friends took the opportunity to share the good news, and he was he was very impressed by this. And he encouraged him to start praying and communicating with God. And he wants to so then he wants to follow God, but he's worried about losing his business. He knew that following God would come with a cost,
Reverend Ben Cooper:a cost, there certainly is a cost is
Sandra Robson:oh, he decided he would attend church. And he said, he said, Lord, I came to visit you, not people. And at that moment, he saw again, this beautiful, bright light. And he knew God wanted a relationship with Him through Jesus, and he gave his life to the Lord, wow, away. He then shared his faith with his his wife, which was a dangerous thing to do, as we find in another story
Reverend Ben Cooper:we do we're very dangerous thing.
Sandra Robson:But he did it. And at first she didn't believe but several months later, she also profess Jesus,
Reverend Ben Cooper:isn't that amazing that even your clothes, even your wife, even your wife, you cannot share your faith with unless you know that
Sandra Robson:because of her family, and the pressure of family, and whether her allegiance to
Reverend Ben Cooper:the family or her husband, faith? Well, yeah, where you sit? Or you sit? Yeah, I
Sandra Robson:was looking at trying to look for that verse where it says, once who you leave a family leave this leave that? I can't I couldn't remember what Yes, it was.
Reverend Ben Cooper:Yeah, it's about Yeah, that bury the dead, let the file you leave your family just walk. If it's a powerful text, it's very,
Sandra Robson:very Jesus says He will look after you.
Reverend Ben Cooper:If you leave your father, your mother, if you. So
Sandra Robson:in this case, she's been, they've been separated again, because the father of a man that he led to Jesus became very angry and started threatening him. And so the wife at a flood to her parents out of fear. And then that didn't work out. And then they stayed with some of these Drew's D Are you said E relatives, but then because they found out about his fate, they started persecuting him. And now he was put in touch. So that so the wife is somewhere else but Adam and his son were helped put in a safe house by this group. Yeah. And he's praying this is the prayer is that he will find steady, steady work. So that he can again be reunited with his family. So that's what he's praying
Reverend Ben Cooper:to be reunited with his family. Very interesting site. This is if anybody wants to have a look, it's well worth a look, Assange has been sharing stuff and it is well worth reading the impact page 66% will convert convert it to Christianity, and it's got 18 safe houses in our ground network, to rescue live 7900 Emergency Relief kits delivered to those in crisis, 14 countries served in Muslim worlds, including Afghanistan, it's a very clear clean site to navigate through, it's very easy. It's got a lot of information on there storage from the field. It's got pictures on there, you know, and what Sandra's read out as well. You've got loads of stuff on there. So it's well worth a look through and that this is the help. Sorry, I should say Help The Persecuted that's what it's titled as and if you're looking for it's http.org easy to find easy to navigate donation button in the corner. And it's got a few tabs up there, why they are persecuted, error impact how we work from the field and get involved. So you've got a few ways to get involved. You've got overview you've got giving you got prayer team, and you've got other ways so there's a lot of information it's well worth it. Look, if your lead in any way shape or form to the persecuted church, but I'm glad that we found another, another ministry and another ministry. So there we go, Sondra, what else we got there?
Sandra Robson:Well, I mean, you know, it's just like looking at different things that are going on. And, you know, then this case, you know about people questioning their faith. And this guy couldn't get answers. He went to the religious leaders, and he asked them questions. And they told him, he shouldn't be asking those questions. And so he was confused about this. And so he stopped praying and fasting. And then a short time later, he found himself working with a Christian man. And he said, why, you know, you treat people so well, you Christians, you know, treat them better than the Muslims. And this guy said, Well, you know, because I'm Christian, and maybe you should become a Christian. But again, because of the cost, he thought, now I can't do I like what they're doing but but then God sent another Christian. And he asked, you know, and invited him to church and to his home and things invite him to a Bible Fellowship, Bible study. And now he was curious. And so he went with his wife, and their three children, and he learned about God's forgiveness. And that was a turning point for the family. And he began to read the Bible. And he looked at it in you know, the two either to that, and he looked at the Koran and, and then he started looking at Christian messages on television, and he saw how the Bible made sense. And then he had a dream. And Jesus appeared in his dream. And he said, the Savior was surrounded by intense light. And he was smiling. And when he woke up he gave his life to the Lord. You hear
Reverend Ben Cooper:a lot about that people are pretty similar. Dream, pray, pray, similar story of how Christ visits them through visions and dreams. Very interesting to hear something and I'm just on this site looking. Sandra is chatting there. And they've got some cracking pictures, beautiful pictures of the persecuted church gathering. It's real interesting read and I'm just looking at a church that I gather in a bit of a basement they're packed. Packed, rarely chock a block. Basic very basic, you know, no mod cons stone walls that have aircon on the wall speaker out there. tiny screen, pastor at the front, lovely Christ at the center point as it should be. But yeah, it's the church is for the church is full. Yeah. Small, packed, you know, plastic chairs, no mod cons, no trappings of materialism. Just literally serving Jesus. Because that's, that's how it is no, no showmanship, no flashing lights, and that nothing that would that is it attractive Joe. But literally just raw, perfect, pure. Christianity, Christians just wanting to worship the King. There's a lot to be found in that picture. There's a lot.
Sandra Robson:And I picked up this story because it was about his wife, his wife was reluctant. And a bit she came to Christ through her daughter's picture that she drawn. She she couldn't sleep interesting pitches. Yeah, she couldn't sleep. And she had a raging toothache. And she was lying away. And she spied one of our children's drawings. And it was a picture of Jesus. And yeah, that he'd drawn at Sunday school. And so she prayed to Jesus and asked him to heal her, and she was healed right away.
Reverend Ben Cooper:And look at that. A child come as a child.
Sandra Robson:And I said, she started to know him as a healer. And I think, you know, when I was thinking about this dreams and visions, and why it happens, one because of it's very difficult for Christians to share their faith because of the persecution in these places. So God's I believe such dreams and visions for that. But also, I've noticed that when people are really thinking about going to follow him, but they are afraid of the cost, afraid of what's going to happen. He, in his grace, and mercy sense these dreams. It's like a seal. It's like saying this, I am real. I am here. It is true. What you're hearing from these Christians is true. And yes, you know, come and follow Me. And it's because of that personal invitation that they make that step. No, no in the cost and the cost then sort of doesn't disappear. But the oh, this thing about the priceless jewel of you know, the price of this pearl and the kingdom of heaven, it's that it's that reality is the real Jesus is there. So they hear it, he gradually brings them closer and closer, he does, and then they they meet with him and Alice, so they can't, we can't go back then. And it's picking up that pearl of great Paris, and forsaking everything else.
Reverend Ben Cooper:Lee, you know, just leaving everything
Sandra Robson:behind literally, I mean, these things, I mean, you know, we've got a guy on the run and, and he ends up in a taxi, and he was a successful businessman. And I mean, it goes on, and on, but they are such stories of hope. And just, you know, amazing turnarounds, you know, people either say, coming from Islam or atheism rather, and, and this guy, I mean, you know, he's in a very difficult area. And one thing that helped the persecuted do is they provide grants for people to set up businesses, because as we've seen, and Muslim, brothers, sisters, community, all band together to stop people from working from having the businesses that they did before. And so the only way that they can make survivors if we give the little that we have for our brothers and sisters to use to be able to have a business that has nothing to do with any of the other structures to do with that particular country, or you know, and he is, he's got this cleaning business. And he says, he is just so happy and he knows it's for the by the grace of God, that he can do that. And as a witness.
Reverend Ben Cooper:That tech Sandra, Luke 14 is Luke chapter 1425, to 27. It's a very, it's quite an impact in text, I'm going to read it for Luke 1425, to 27 cents, Luke chapter 14, verse 25, to 27. And it says, large crowds followed and traveled with Jesus and turned. And he turned and said to them, If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father, and mother, wife and child, brother and sister, yes, even their own life, such a person cannot be my disciple. And whoever does not carry their cross and follow Me cannot be My disciple. That's a very powerful punching, text as the NIV. I'm going to find it as you carry on, I'm going to find it in the King James. But there's, there's a cost. There's a cost, and it's a very strong word that is that is placed into the New Testament there. And it says the same again, in the King James, it says in Luke chapter 14, verses 25, to 27. And there is a great multitudes with him. And he turned around and said to them, If any man comes to me and hate not his father and his mother, his wife and his children and his brethren in the Sistine, yea, and his own life also he cannot be My disciple. Whoever does not bear his own cross and come after Me cannot be My disciple. There is a serious cost to laying everything down for Jesus Christ. Yeah, but when you lay it then us we when we lay everything down and pick up the cross, it comes back Yeah, but it's Jesus God Holy Spirit first. Love the Lord thy God with all your heart follow God that there is there is a price and the more I look at this text that we're in I'm don't want to digress I want to go off the point here but the church in the West I've never heard a message I'm going to be on it now is never heard a message preached from that text because that text, that text will empty a lot of westernized churches. When when it's using strong language, biblical language from the voice of Christ. So there is a cost to follow Jesus, a serious cost. But the price, the price carry on with the race, Sandra digressed a little bit They're coming off of what you said,
Sandra Robson:No, I mean, so, a save. So they're about rescue, restore and rebuild. So when they, you know, restore these people, you know, sounds like a lot of them having to flee though and go to other countries and but then they they set them up, and then they start to rebuild. And then that is part of a new church being built. And, and these people just see the faithfulness of God. And that just emboldened them and encouraging them even more. So I'll leave firm help for the persecutor now, and there's just a few things. With CSW, I was I got their prayer, weekly thing on my emails. And remember, there was a guy that we spoke about Dr. Numbers now anyway, he had a children's home Christian children's home, and he loved these children like as his own. And then the authorities accused him of misusing funds and everything, he's in prison. And he's not well, and his size has deteriorated while he's been there. And so they're concerned about the way he's been treated. He's not getting medical care as they should be. And his wife hasn't had access to the 16 children that but that they that they had. So CSW are stepping up their campaign for. And if you go on to their site, you can very simply by just putting in your name, and your email, send a letter, which they've already done, you can look read it through, that will be sent to the consulate in Nigeria. And so they said, you know, that they need to increase the awareness because it's sort of gone a bit cold people have forgotten. And, you know, it, these children are really suffering as well as this. This, this doctor who had the children's home. So that's just something to pick up on. And there are some other things are CSW and that's the thing about CSW, they are very much action on the advocacy side of things with easy, you put your name here, just put your and then email, and we'll do the rest. And they make it very straightforward. Very simple. And and immediately you're helping somebody because so easy. So see more times they get those emails more they have to look at things and think okay, what's going on here? So yes, prayer prayer prayer, prayer is so important snatch prayer whenever you can know, our lives are busy. And we know we have a lot of different things to pray about. But the more and more and getting challenged is that as we have these presses and stretches on us, we're thinking about, you know, our finances, God is actually saying give, he's saying all this mess, you know, and particularly put the family of God first. So saying, you know, think about this, don't usually say things like but the this particularly really came to me about there's many charities and we may be supporting lots of charities might be thinking now we will have to not be supporting these particular charities for and the thing is that you know, that they may not all be Christian charities that we support. And I feel the Lord is putting a challenge, a challenge to say the world will still look after the wash those things. But if we are supporting particularly Christian charities and particularly these sorts of charities, that is what we must make it
Reverend Ben Cooper:as showing in the right place yes showing in
Sandra Robson:the world it because reading these stories, it says no one else will support them. No, we don't support them. Yeah, only brothers and sisters because they everything else is taken away. They cut off all the other funds
Reverend Ben Cooper:every every, every avenue every stream, removed the world as ostracize and cut them off.
Sandra Robson:And the same with the aid and you know, unless we, the Christian, the Christian you know, we the In the body of Christ, and last, we do something either I just say, I know people are stretched, we pray. But if we have some little to give, you know, even if it's a pound, we really need to give it at this time. And God is saying, hey, look, he says he will look after, as he says, you know that he won't let as it says, I don't know. Right? That's right. And I just, you know, sense that it's like, we're asking the Lord for revival, we're asking the Lord for harvest. And he's saying, look, so whatever the harvest is, yeah, you know, and, yes, I don't ever say I don't, but I really did feel, you know, feel that quite, quite strong, passionate, that your prayers are so important prayers are so, so important. And I know that I'm very busy in these days, I'm still struggling to find that time to, you know, to really, I'm grateful that I do this. Because I tell you, it does focus me and do I mean, you know, sometimes I find it difficult to sleep. And what do I do? I pray, I pray for the persecuted church, I pray for my brothers and sisters. And, you know, so if you find it difficult sometimes to sleep for one reason or another, got a few aches and pains at the minute. So you know, just pray, just pray, and then I fall asleep.
Reverend Ben Cooper:There you go. That's it. Sorry, we thank you so much. But Sandra has made a very interesting point that, you know, what, what charities are we supporting? Where does that money actually go? You know, some of the larger charities within the UK are supporting more of their office blocks and more of the staff than the actual fundamental points of the organization. So that is a that's a very interesting point, Sandra's bought there, and obviously, sowing into the kingdom of God, you know, what kingdom Am I so in essence, that's another thing, where am I scattering the seed of my, my putting a seed into the storehouse, because the Scripture makes it very clear, bring everything to the store and to the store house, put it in the barn, put it in the Lord's house invest and put in the Lord's work. So it's a very interesting thing Sandra has bought because we are all getting to that place where the cap on the energy bills is is horrific within the UK. And so rightly so people will be looking at areas of stripped back financially. But I would say, give more to the kingdom of God. That is the way forward so into the Kingdom cut the sowing and the giving into the world, the world will look after the world and give into the kingdom of God because there are refugees, there are persecuting Christians, there are believers around the world that are hungry. And we may be given to certain Charities of the world for giving food and water. And that money doesn't even get there because the authorities of the world have snatched it away. So it's about being a good steward and looking into the organization. Does that money, get that water? Does that money buy that well? Or does that money just fuel the funding of lavish lifestyle of leaders of the organization? So that is the question, Where does the power go that I give? Does it go and save a life? Or does it go and put another watch on someone else's risk? Basically, that is important, you know, sowing into the kingdom of God sowing into the kingdom. Sandra, have you got anything to wrap up? We've got a couple of moments left.
Sandra Robson:No, I mean, just to say that I haven't a little break. So be here next week. And yeah, thank you. So my brothers and sisters who are praying and listening to this and, you know, giving it out, you know that others might be encouraged and strengthened and made more aware of what is going on. That's the most important thing. So I'm here as often as I can be, because my work will start again. Yes. Well, when I come back, and we'll just see how things go. But yeah, we've got lots more to talk about. I've got all the new magazines, from the different organizations to look through and see what particular things they are highlighting. But yes, you know, just see and what He is saying and to putting on cart, but I do think we do need to look at what particular organizations are following what they're supporting. Because some things now, they're not supporting all the things that are biblical. And so look at the just check out, you know what, what things that they're supporting? Does it line up with the Bible that the Bible says, Okay,
Reverend Ben Cooper:we're there. Thank you very much. So wherever you are across the world, we thank you so much for joining us today. You know, because this is a great day because God has created this day and you are chosen and you are blessed and you are loved beyond human understanding. And we have been looking on that new site today Help The Persecuted, very powerful site, lots of information. And also we've been in ADF international Christians in law. So we thank God for these new sites that Sandra is bringing our attention to but wherever you are today, you can find us on Buzzsprout, Spotify, I heart, radio, and so many other social platforms across the world. Amazon Music God bless. Have a wonderful day share all this stuff out. In the mighty name of Jesus Christ. You listen to Sandra Robson and Reverend Ben Cooper. God bless Have a great day.
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