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I look forward to listening to future"},{"speaker":"Scott Corwin","startTime":2461.378,"endTime":2464.708,"body":"podcasts that you're putting together."},{"speaker":"Scott Corwin","startTime":2464.708,"endTime":2466.088,"body":"You're running a great series."},{"speaker":"Scott Corwin","startTime":2466.208,"endTime":2467.858,"body":"It's really, really outstanding."},{"speaker":"Scott Corwin","startTime":2468.038,"endTime":2468.5480000000002,"body":"Thank you."},{"speaker":"Tom Raftery","startTime":2468.5480000000002,"endTime":2468.938,"body":"Thanks."},{"speaker":"Tom Raftery","startTime":2469.882,"endTime":2471.622,"body":"Okay, we've come to the end of the show."},{"speaker":"Tom Raftery","startTime":2471.982,"endTime":2473.062,"body":"Thanks everyone for listening."},{"speaker":"Tom Raftery","startTime":2473.752,"endTime":2477.292,"body":"If you'd like to know more about"},{"speaker":"Tom Raftery","startTime":2473.752,"endTime":2477.292,"body":"climate 21, feel free to drop me 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