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So as I"},{"speaker":"Tom Raftery","startTime":1939.46,"endTime":1942.7,"body":"said, do please do that as well."},{"speaker":"Tom Raftery","startTime":1942.73,"endTime":1947.3200000000002,"body":"So have a great break. And I"},{"speaker":"Tom Raftery","startTime":1942.73,"endTime":1947.3200000000002,"body":"shall see you all in the New"},{"speaker":"Tom Raftery","startTime":1947.3200000000002,"endTime":1952.96,"body":"Year tamo. Okay, we've come to"},{"speaker":"Tom Raftery","startTime":1947.3200000000002,"endTime":1952.96,"body":"the end of the show. Thanks"},{"speaker":"Tom Raftery","startTime":1952.96,"endTime":1956.3200000000002,"body":"everyone for listening. 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