Welcome back to the Potter discussion. This is episode 95 and not today's episode. We will be discussing some of the biggest plot holes in Harry Potter. Let's do this. Greetings everyone. Welcome back to the Potter discussion. Today is a very happy day because we are recording. Once again, it feels like it was just yesterday that I was sitting down to record an episode, but now we are already back in the studio and I am so excited to record today because we are talking about one of my favorite topics, plot holes.

So Harry Potter is full of these little and sometimes not so little plot holes in the story. And sometimes you notice them, sometimes you don't, but today we will be, we will be going over some of the more obvious one. And I did do an episode on this topic before. But I only went through half of what I had.

So now I am just finishing that episode off. And who knows, maybe we won't have more plot hole in the future. If you like these episodes, please send me an email. I would love to know the part of the discussion at g-mail dot com. That is the part of discussion that you can put.com because I want to know what you think to make this show your favorite.

And before we get started, I am going to just give you a quick update about fantastic beasts, three and four. So one, her brothers just came out and they said that, um, there would be a slight gap, a gap year between, um, fantastic beasts, three and fantastic beasts for now. We don't know what that means, but they said they were taking a break.

Now we could decipher that and think about it. I think what we should do right now is just think about why that might happen. And David Yates was saying how he wanted a smaller project. You know, there was just so much going on, um, that I think it's better if we roll with the punches to see how it goes, because this is a really big deal, you know, if that would be three there's even debate, whether there's going to be a fantastic, these five kind of, uh, even a fantastic beast for, so it's going to be a little bit of a, a, of a, you know, 10 situation from now until the release of fantastic bees and where to find them three.

But when it does come out, we will pretty much know what the deal is. Um, they did guarantee the fantastic beast three. I think that's like they had, they were either thinking of a three movie plan or a five movie plan suspected, like how based on how and asking these three is going to go. Now, we'll probably decide if they're going to do a fourth and a fifth movie, but if they do it well, I suspect they will do a five movies series.

I think that's what they're hoping on. And, uh, you know, Planning originally, um, in the, you know, early stages of fantastic beasts, but even if the fourth movie or the third movie is a complete flop, I do think they're going to do just one more to finish out the story because yes, uh, the, the, you know, main thing of unasked beast is the fight of, you know, Dumbledore and Grinnell, Wald.

And now it was going to be like the final battle at the very end. But if they can have that, then what are they going to do? That's kind of what people are saying. So the big question here is like, how is this gonna work out? What are they going to do? And how many movies are there going to beat? So I will keep you updated if there's any more big news.

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Anything you want to hear. And I do want to hear anything that you have to say, because it helps make this show better. And I absolutely love hearing your feedback. All right, let's get into today's episode   Our very first plot hole of the day is why don't muggles see the Hogwarts express. It seems like a very simple matter.

It is a huge train with the words, Hogwarts express emblazoned on the very front, and it is allowed to, to train the food train. I, I had to, I to say. A huge strain and it is going to the countryside. And how does no one see it? I mean, like, it just seem obvious. I mean, if you see a train, if you even hear a train or hear about a sea up, out in a train, you're going to know it exists.

So how do muggles not see the hug was express? Well, you might be saying, well, of course, it's just a, you know, it's the same deal as Hogwarts, you know, they just see that run down tracks, you know, uh, you know, grass growing, nothing much there. It's this huge thing with dozens and dozens and even maybe hundreds of miles of land, how does like no one just pass that off.

As you know, randomly, it would have to be like a major historic monument or like a tourist exhibit, because there's no way that they just let that pass, you know? Yes, they can. The wizards can seal that kind of thing for muggles, but they can't just. Remove it from their muggle world. It's still existed.

They walk into it, they're going to head their head and there's going to be attention brought to the Hogwarts express. So even if they do hide it, how do muggles not see this huge track and like, yeah. Okay. Let's just, let's just say for argument's sake that they don't do the Hogwarts express. They don't hear it.

It's like the night bus. It's just. But there's still a track and you've, if anything, the track is the biggest part that is the, you know, tons and tons of stone. There is just so much to do. There's so much material and there's just so much there of the hobbles express. It seems ludicrous. Now they don't see that it is there because it is, it is there.

So that is a very large plot hole that wasn't really covered. But if we're going off of the Hogwarts, you know, they can't see Hogwarts kind of thing. I guess it does make sense because I mean, a railway track, if it wasn't, um, Explained as a railway track, it should seem like a common thing. If it isn't, you know, seen by muggles as a something that's out of the ordinary.

Because if you see, like, for example, if you see something that you see every day, you, aren't going to think this out of the ordinary, might've been just doing something that's out of the ordinary. You are going to think that it is out of the ordinary. I said that a lot, but the bottom line is the hubs Hogwarts express.

It's just such a big thing to hide. We have no idea. How they actually did it and we could look it up on Pottermore or whether Wizarding world.com. We could look it up on the Harry Potter lexicon, but we just don't have that answer. There's just so much more than a simple answer given to our faces. So I am looking forward to the day when that is revealed.

Maybe it's in the current job play part for, I don't know. So we'll see, we'll see how that, uh, we'll see how that turns out, but that is pothole. Number one,   And on this fine day of day today, we have plot hole number two, and that is why didn't the ministry or anyone for that matter. Just send an owl and, you know, Follow it.

Okay. Here's here's what I'm thinking. So, you know how it, you said an hour, it will pretty much always find its owner, unless it is a rather the person it's sending a letter to, unless it was intercepted or it has a different goal. This is just such a boggling thing. Widen wizards is just to follow the owl that they sent.

So the ministry of magic could have just said, all right, hello, dear Sirius black. We are coming for you. Ha ha love the ministry. And they just gave it to Hedwig and or other administrator I will and just send it off and then said, all right. All right, let's go. Let's let's just go follow it. And then the owl led them straight to series.

And they busted him and he went to ask him, man, I'll be like, it's just so simple. That owl is such an underrated thing. I don't know why no one really thought that it could be of so much use to, you know, the wizard kind and hunting, uh, hunting. Was there 10 new orders? There's just so much to having an owl.

I don't know how anyone didn't think of this before, and maybe there's some magic code. You just can't get an agreement between, you know, a hunter and the hunted. I don't know. It's just like random things that just pop up and that's off. That also goes for Voldemort. Voldemort is one of the, you know, most feared wizards of all dime and the ministry couldn't have just sent Nile to Voldemort and follow that out.

The whole ministry just goes because yes Voldemort's half-full, but Voldemort cannot defeat the entire ministry of magic. Right. If he had his army of snatchers and designators, maybe, but at the time that the ministry was able to send an owl or do anything like that, they would be by far the outnumbering party and.

The only reason the only factual or even a plausible reason I can think of, of why the ministry wouldn't do this would be, they were scared of what they might find. So they, you know, these dark wizards, excluding Sears of course, are spun out to be these, you know, horrible people. You know, eat babies and bite heads off.

So of course they don't, but that's just how they are seen by the population because they do some horrible things. And then immediately everyone's like, these are the worst people in the world, so they of course have to do these horrible things. And that does make sense, I guess, but it still doesn't account for the fact that there's just so much fear around these names.

And even though that might be for a good reason, I still don't think that is justifiably. The reason, uh, why the ministry didn't just send an ally and follow up to Voldemort. I mean, maybe they were just scared of Voldemort and no one wanted to accept that Voldemort w oh wait. All right. I just gave myself on a day.

Maybe that was another reason. They just didn't think that Voldemort was alive. I'm in the fifth movie slash book you heard of the Phoenix fudge was very against the idea that Morgan was back because she was scared that that was the truth. So he wouldn't have humor. The idea of vulnerable, not rubber Dumbledore saying, you know, Hey, you know, fudgy boy.

Can you send it out for me and, uh, then fought to absolutely say no, because you wouldn't accept the idea of all more being back. So even though Voldemort and Sirius black and all these escaped wizards and witches and evil people in general, they could have been found so easily by just sending it now and following it, these ministry, people just didn't think of it.

And they absolutely will never, again.

Plot hole. Number three is one that I have mentioned before. Why didn't Harry see the festivals before his 50 year? You might be saying, well, he didn't see Cedric die before his fifth year. You saw that at the very end of the fourth year, and then he left and he came back until that's Astros' because he saw death.

You can see a TestRail before you haven't seen death. Harry Sadev and then south Australia, it should make sense, but no, it doesn't. It may explain it. So Harry Potter, you know, the whole story of him, he, he grew up and then Voldemort came to his house one day and decided, Hey, yo, uh, your parents, I don't.

Nah, Nope, no, thank you. And he just killed his parents, not really a nice thing to do, you know, but despite that fact. Harry didn't till conceive festivals, you know, so he's all blatantly saw his parents die. That was almost the whole point of him seeing his parents die, but still he couldn't see his bestial people that were pulling the carriages.

Why? It seems so simple. So Harry saw his parents die in front of his eyes. Then he can't see desk rolls until he's used to Edrick die. You need to see three people die is that as they're just like, there's something here that just isn't quite there. And I'm hoping that we just can't really quantify why this is happening.

So Harry sees his parents die and he is, you know, unable to see deciles until his fifth year. Now I didn't make a fury about this. Very long time ago. And what I was kind of saying was a lot of these, this is kind of what I remember is it was, you know, because like, as a baby, he didn't really cool.

Understand the concept of death and seeing people die. Wasn't something that he even understood, but even then, I mean, he grew up and he should still understand death, but maybe it's because, you know, he needs to grow up and then see death again. But there's just death everywhere. I mean, if you see a tree die, does that count?

And if you see a leaf get picked off, does that count? I mean, he, you see people, you might, you might have seen someone on their last day of work. Countless times, not the same person, but you might've seen someone on the last day of life so many times, but you will never know that. Anyway, I was grinding up some, there was a very oddly dripping say, buck, you know what I mean?

You see death everywhere. And even as a, an 11 year old, he must have seen something. Do was, you know, on the brink of going into the afterlife. So even though Harry couldn't sit Astros for his first, second, third, fourth years, I don't know. It seems a little fishy that he wasn't able to see the thing that enabled him to see the things before he was able to.

I was like a riddle, but Harry borders is just such a confusing story. It might be, it just makes sense. It might just have been easier on the filmmakers to not throw the show, the festivals because their budget, of course wasn't as big as it was in the fifth year. Um, the Harry Potter movies through like 1, 2, 3 weren't very much.

And then, I mean, like in terms of like Hollywood Harry Potter standards, but then in book four or five, six and seven and technically eight, I guess you could. It was a very, very large, so I guess we can understand, uh, why this wasn't the case before, but even then, I mean, they could at least mentioned industrials or said like, oh wait, what's that?

You know, like it's just some, it seems like such an easy thing to do, but they just didn't include it. And we'll just have to live with that fact for ever. But yeah. Our fourth plot hole of the day is more of something that just personally annoys me, not so much a plot hole. It's kind of like one of those many plot holes, but it's more of like, uh, what, you know what I'm saying?

So this one is you can repeat it. Anything in the world you can repair, uh, even, uh, glasses. Of course, as we saw, you can repair a brick wall. You can repair a fireplace that exploded, but you can't repair your eyesight. This seems like something that should be a very common thing to do. And I know, I know I'm not saying that they should have that because it's very hard, but it just seems like, like, like they were, the, the filmmakers were.

Purposely just moving over this fact, rather JK Rowling. It just is such a weird thing. You know, you can repair your glasses, you can repair your land, you can repair anything, but you just can't repair. The one thing that's causing the problem. And I know that, uh, you, you will never be able to repair your eyesight, you know, in the Harry Potter.

But it just seems, it's just so annoying, you know, it's right there. You can, you know, you can find a solution, but you can now or fix the problem. That is just us. Ah, ah, I sounded like Baltimore there. I hoped you liked mine. But my whole point here is there's just so much magic in the world that your spells being invented every day in the Harry Potter universe.

And there are so many powerful things that could be used, but you cannot prepare your eyesight. Why it feels like such an obvious thing and such an easy thing, even though it's not easy and it's not okay. But repairing your glasses is like repairing your eyesight, but it's repairing an object and it might be because maybe you can't just repair your body.

You can't just, you know, alter who, how you are and who you look like. I mean, you can, but not with a spell. And it just is such a strange thing to not have, you know, you can repair so many things except the thing that you need to repair. It's like trying to repair something that like a life, you know, you can give them a machine to keep them going.

You can keep your heart pumping, but you just can't repair who they are as a person, which kind of seems like that's also part of the problem with Harry. He was a person with who, very bad eyesight as her mind. He pointed out and the, in the, in the fifth. No, it was the second. That's the point. But anyway, the point is, Harry is just someone with very bad eyesight and he has glasses to help his eyesight, but he can't fix his eyes.

I am forever. There is no, there's never going to be a time where I am not going to be mad at this because I mean, come on, come on, come on. I'm going to have to stop this year because I just can't talk about this subject anymore.   while we're on the subject of changing, who you look like and modifying the appearance.

Probably just posted. Let's just, let's just talk about that. What is Paul? Just potion? It is the potion that stirs for a month on new stirred clockwise under that full moon, I had boom, slang skin. And then you take it and your face bubbles like wax. Yes. That is probably just potion. It changes who you are.

Harry and Ron and her mind took it in this second book again in this seventh book. And I'm sure there's some places in between, but the point here is it only affects your face. Not your voice. I'm talking about the movie and there may have been a whole slew of reasons why this would be very hard, but I'm still going to touch on it because, oh man, this is another one of those annoying things.

Uh, it's a more of a pothole than the fixing the eyesight thing, but still, why does it only affect your voice rather only affect your appearance? It does not affect your role. Your vocal chords are a part of the body and it's not like the inside say the same. You don't just get a new set of skin. You still do have the, you know, the, in the intestines of the person, you have a heart, the person like physically, everything is the same.

Of course you think like yourself, the brain stays the same, but you are that person at an in-person and tired. I should have the vocal chords. Of course, of course. Just like, of course that's the only thing that isn't touched on, you know, um, you know, just to keep the, um, keep the, the voiceover budget at a minimum, it just seems like such a simple thing that they almost forgot.

They almost forgot about it and it was never fixed after the second book. It's always. It does not affect the voice. And it may have just been there for convenient, you know, not forgetting about the people and not, you know, changing the way they look and only changing the way they talk or the other way around.

And it still is such a weird thing to not include. Just like the eyesight thing. I mean, your voice is like, almost like one of the Mo more defining characteristics of who you are. And if they try to keep that, it just looks unnatural. I mean, like her meiny talking, but a tearing moving is like moving them out.

That's just like, that's the weirdest thing. It was just like, so, so bizarre. And even seeing multiple of hearing the same room, that was even a weirder, because it was like, who was Harry and who was what? And then. But the funniest thing was, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but from, from what I remember when Matt, I mean, it was like, oh, like where's Harry and they all say here, and then, but it's inherit his voice.

I think it's in Harry's voice. But then, then it just goes back. It just switches back. It is so funny, but it's even, maybe it's made even stranger by the fact that in the book. The voice is change. And it makes so much sense because it is part of the bottom. The vocal chords are part of the body. And the only thing that they struggle with is acting like the person, you know, like, uh, Ron ness, like swinging his arms.

I think Ron is Goyal maybe. And, um, he, well, he has to like practice, you know, like walking down the hall, like a, like a gorilla, you know, with his bowl cup. So Ron definitely has to practice that with that kind of thing. It's still strange that, you know, the vocal chords are kind of just like disregarded and the, you know, the way that you talk, isn't seen as, you know, the vibrations of something inside your body, it's seen as the thing that comes out of your mouth.

Is the, as always a mouth. So the thing that comes out of it should always be the same, right? No wrong. So maybe it's just a magical thing. Maybe it's just a random piece of information that the filmmakers missed, or maybe it's just a random, you know, piece of PR they put in. So people would be making these Buzzfeed articles, like five things that Harry Potter did wrong, you know?

I mean, it would be good marketing if they did, but I don't think that's the case. So there was something there and maybe they just have to discern between people. Maybe they had to, you know, just, you know, find a different way to show who ha who was doing what and who they were at the time, but it's forever.

For whatever reason, they didn't. I'm sure they were going to do it another way where they decided it was no way that was going to work. So they changed the way Paul just potion affected a person in the movies. Maybe it was a good decision. Maybe it was a bad, but we will never know  going back to Harry's eyesight.

It is really bad and he needs glasses. So in a dual Voldemort would just have to say  glasses. All right. Let's let's, let's, let's talk about this. So Baltimore inherited duel a lot and sometimes old ward gas dispel, and sometimes Harry has to block that smell dumps. Harry has to cast a spell and Baltimore has to walk that smell, you know how those go.

So when they are fighting, it's this whole thing, you know, they're like the, the dome forms or the, the Phoenix comes or the golden smarts I'm here, you know, just holding. Well, if something happens with the twin cores, and it's just a strange part of the story that was for every week confusing, but that's not the point.

The point here is here's eyesight is how he. Duals is how he lives. And if Voldemort were to find a way to defeat him, he would just have to say, Akio glasses. O'Hara, couldn't see couldn't duel can do anything. And when I was writing this, I was kind of thinking about, you know, like in, in movies, how it was like, you know, they, they, they learned how to, you know, make a, make a paper crane when they were in preschool from their father and then they, their father died and they had to like, you know, learn how to be a ninja.

And then. You know, went back, but they didn't need their ninja skills. All they needed was, uh, you know, the how to make a paper crane, you know what I'm kinda saying? It's like the simple things that they learned when they were young. That's kind of what I was imagining that spell would be like, if it was from Baltimore's perspective, you know, they're dealing with these extravagant spells and casting, these big explosions and fireballs and, you know, exploding things, but Voldemort just needed this simple as spell.

Akio glasses and he would have one that was a very, very strange tangent, but I am glad, you know, I am, I am glad that I, that I talked about that. So you're welcome. You're a welcome for hearing that man, this podcast has turned into just talking about ninjas and paper cranes. I don't know. They're cool.

Anyway. Okay. Boy, Harry Potter. So now you ask, this is very simple as bell, and it has a smell that Voldemort she doesn't have thought of before. Now I know you're going to say, well, maybe he just likes sees the big shape. It doesn't need to see Voldemort's face. He just needs to see where he is. But even if he does, we saw in the third movie just how blurry Harry's vision is without his glasses.

And let's just say, I don't know, in, in the final battle, no, no. In the, in the group. When Harry Waldemar dueling, that was like, it was dark and Harry was really hurt and he was tired and Voldemort, well, you know, it was wearing black robes against the night. So if Voldemort had said Akeelah glasses heroin of just, you know, a bunch of people standing around and like that, because don't forget they were deaf theaters and they were graves, which even adds to the, to the, you know, Effect of the darkness.

So Harry would have to just fire off spells randomly, and then just say partake or every couple of seconds, just to make sure that there were no smells coming his way, but Baltimore just had such an upper hand. And he, he realized this too early on, almost like a, his, his ego just got too big. You know, he was, his head was just like, yeah, I'm fine, whatever, whatever, you know, and, and he was just toying with Harry because he knew he could win.

And he could, if it was just a duel, a straight out dual Voldemort inherit good versus evil, lots of Harry, like in his fourth year. I mean, come on. Like there's, there's no way hair is going to win. And we even saw Voldemort can just lift finger in his wand, but fly out of his hand. There's no blocking some of the smells that Voldemort can cast.

So Voldemort was just like, yeah, I can beat Harriet. And I'm going to milk that fact forever. And yes, he did intend to kill Harry in the fourth book, but he still couldn't kill him. Fourth books couldn't come in the fifth book. He couldn't kill them in six books and he only killed Terry in the seventh book because Harry went to him, heroin to Voldemort what Harry came back to life.

So Voldemort was just using his, his power as a way as an excuse, almost to show off how powerful he really was. But in the end, that was his downfall because his power was the reason he didn't have the, you know, the wherewithal to think I'm going to go, Harry. Now I'm going to be practical. I'm going to do this and I'm going to do it now.

You know, he just, he just didn't think of that because he knew he could win. He knew begin, went on to do. So the fact that Voldemort had an easy way out is just something that we will forever know at Harrell forever now. Well, probably not because no one would think of it and Voldemort will we'll have overlooked in such a, just a simple way.

I guess we'll just have to live with this fact. And whenever you're reading a Harry Potter books, if you're reading a Harry Potter book, right. In a duel with hair and Voldemort. I think about it. I curse you. I curse you with knowledge. You are going to forever think about Akio glasses could have been the one spelt that Voldemort needed.

You're welcome. I have a spoiled every dual with and Voldemort. Okay. Let's uh, yeah, that was a good segment. Totally  So our final plot hole of this episode, and probably the one that I've been thinking about the most is in the prisoner of as cabana. So I am reading the person Nebraska man, right now.

I probably have been finished it by the time you're listening to this, but it's a great book of horse. And I w I just kept thinking about time too. So they know the whole, the whole deal with time, turn you turn back time. Don't be seen or don't interact. Don't mess with time, but Harry and Armani mess, but I asked her how it goes and it's very confusing.

So the continuity does not work at all. So I'll just spell this out. So the book is, you know, totally makes sense, but it's the movie, it's the movie that's like. In the world. I was having a conversation with a friend about this, shout out to you, you know, you are, we were talking about this, if Bugbee died.

And I thought that I was right, of course you, that you were right. And then I watched the movie and I was like, I knew it, but then he, okay, so this, this is a whole conversation. I'll tell you the backstory. We were talking about the prisoner basket ban. And we were saying about how, you know, like, uh, I was so sad about the dye in the book, you know, in the movie, then it came back and then my friend was like, oh no, no, no, but, but he, but he didn't die.

You know, th the ax was just him going down to the pumpkin. And then I was like, what? Really? Really? And then I was still confused. So I watched the movie and it turned out that we were both right. So Mason, if listening to. I will say this now we were both. Right. Okay. So here's how it went down, Harry and her mind, he and Ron would go to Hegra Tut to, you know, to condole him and say, you know, I'm sorry, it's a tough time, you know, but how good, like, no, no, you can't.

You can be. Yeah. Man, the jug was scammers breaks and scours comes out of it. Okay. Who threw that rock? Who did inherent mine? I didn't go back in time yet. Who threw the rock? And if buck beak is still there, that means that Heron, Ronnie did not go back in time, but if they should they're walking, that means they did.

And the, yeah, the jug breaks. And then Harry gets hit on the head with a rock that he looks out. He sees that is the rock that was on the pumpkin bug. Bikies still. Who freed buck beak, who did it, who if Harry is there, but Harry is not there. Who did it? I mean, like this was just so confusing. And then when Harry and Hiran and her Hermione, you know, hide pumpkins and then go up, buck, the dies like buck big does that.

It's unfortunate, but it's true. And then, then they go back in time and then they throw the rock and then they, you know, tap Harry and then they, you know, go on this whole thing. It's just so confusing. And I was talking with my friend Mason about this and it was like, I was just saying like, this makes no sense if the threw the rock, but buck beak still died.

Like, like what happened here? What you can see why it's so confusing. It just doesn't make sense. I knew like what the heck? I am like lost I'm at a loss for words. This is just, it's just too confusing. I mean like, how does this even, how does it even work? This is a major continuity air here. Like Mike royally.

This is very bad. All right.  my brain is boggled beyond belief. If you are on team buck, beak, you know, didn't die. And Harry and Ron and Harry on her mind, he didn't go back in time. Definitely, you know, email me and tell me. But if you do think that they went, that they, that they didn't go back in time and Buffy didn't die, then email.

Please because I would love to hear what you have to say. And what did you think about the episode? What did you think about these potholes? And what's one of your favorite potholes? I would love to hear what you have to say. Tooling industry option for a voice to mission and a text. Always you can send me a email, the Potter discussion, national.com.

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Have a wonderful day. I will catch you next episode as always use information to our advantage, and I will see you later.