We only get to see a few years of Harry's life in the story, but what happens after that? What happens after Hogwarts? Welcome to Harry Potter after Hogwarts. Welcome back. This is episode 102 of the Potter discussion. On today's episode, we will be dissecting Harry's life after Hogwarts and seeing what it means for the story.

Let's do that. Welcome back everyone. Thank you for tuning in this week. And today surprise, surprise. We are talking about Harry Potter today's episode. We are focusing mostly on Harry's life after Hogwarts. Now I know we did do an episode similar to this a couple weeks back, but there is still some things to be said in Harry's life.

And if you really think about. We only saw maybe seven or eight years of Harry's existence in the Harry Potter series. And we have no idea, like we didn't get an in-depth description of what happened after that, in the books, except for the cursed child, but didn't really get any information on that. But I believe Harry is like, Thirties spine now, which is crazy.

And we only saw like seven years of his life. Cause there's just so much that has happened after the fact. So I do think that it's just crazy. If you think about there's so much more that's happening in Harry's life that we just aren't talking about. So in this episode, we are going to be talking about the things that we haven't talked about before Harry's life, Harry's, everything, what I was after Hogwarts the whole shebang.

And although I don't think Harry. Is there there's really no deaths for him in the future. I think he's just going to be immortalized as this, you know, 30 year old or forever, just as the story of Harry Potter. But if his death comes, that's like, Almost 80 years after the story. So there's 80 years of stuff that we didn't even get to see in Harry Potter's life.

So if we do it definitely, it's, it's a huge thing to be noticing. And I do think that if we can look at the stuff that we already have, we can definitely get a fuller picture of who Harry is and that's to do that. Before we get started, I will remind you that the two links in the description below are still  available.

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The Potter discussion@gmail.com.  That is the part of discussion. Angie ml.com. For anything you might want me to know. Let's get into today's topic.  And the very first thing that we are going to be talking about is Harry's career in law enforcement. We all know that that is the career that he decides to pursue after Hogwarts.

And it does match up of who he is and kind of what he decides to do.  his favorite subject by far definitely defense against the dark arts. He was great at it. Probably the best in his class. And that is because he has a very, very deep motivation to do well in that subject.

And to eventually conquer evil in that he will kill Voldemort. And we all know that he did. And that seems to be the perfect bridge for Harry to then walk across and become an or, which is exactly what he does. Directly after the permanent appointment of  Kingsley, shackle, bold as the ministry of magic, Harry actually takes over the department of magical law enforcement as the head.

And that is a very poetic and very fitting end for the story because Harry Potter is a very, very long and drawn out story to be reading. But if Harry becomes in oral. It just kind of is a really sweet end. You know, he was fighting evil before and then in his life, he is fighting evil. He is fighting evil again.

That's just how it goes. And I definitely think that if Harry were to do something else. I think it would have eventually somehow led back to his, you know, fighting of evil or at least at least helping people because after the fall of Voldemort, I doubt there would be many evil people clambering for the position of old, more to get after that.

So I doubt Harry would have to handle. Actual evil, but even if we didn't become an or much less the head of the magical law enforcement department, I think he would definitely take a position if not an administrator then somewhere else, where he was helping some  section of people in just some way, just because that's what Harry does.

He wants to make the world a better place. And he wants to do it himself, make sure everything is right in the world and Not a bad trait at all, but it is sometimes it becomes something of a, I don't know what you would call it, something of a need, something of a draw.

And Harry has that draw by. We can see that it doesn't always help him in the story. For example, in the deathly Hallows part one, may one part, one or two, uh, getting confused when he, has that fight with Ron. We can see that he is kind of losing sight of the greater picture and he just wants to do the right thing.

Now, now, now, you know, he's kind of, he wants to see what to do. And then. Not think, but just do it. And when he had that fight with Ron, we can kind of see how wrong was complaining about not really getting horcrux is. And I think Ron, Ron was a little bit in the wrong there.

And then when Harry was saying, all those mean things, I think Harry was also in the wrong. So they both had so much stress and Ron of course, was wearing the horcrux and Harry was, trying to lead the whole operation of defeating the dark. So the situation wasn't healthy for anyone, despite the fact of the horcrux is and the stress.

So that is also a factor, but I think hair is really losing sight of the fact that if they fight amongst each other, there's rarely a time than that, that they will be able to work efficiently together if they don't, Understand and appreciate each other's presences because it might lead to them not having an efficient team and just kind of doing hard things out of.

And what Harry didn't realize was that if he, you know, continued on with his whole fight with Ron, then their team would have been broken up for ever if not had wrong, you know, had the luminaires, not Dumbledore thought ahead and given it to him. But Ron only found his way back because, you know, I think he said, I'm right.

When he left. If you want it to come back, as Ron said, although that might be true, I don't know if the same as like, if it's the same with Harry, I think it's kind of like, if you're thinking like right now, this just think about, like, if you have a fight with a friend, you where you are going, you will likely make up just because you're, it's a friend or a close family member or something like that.

But it is, it's a strange thing, you know, you're just kind of like, you're you pass each other every day. You see each other every day, if it's a close friend and you don't really say anything because you don't know what to say. And I think Harry was kind of in that stage where he didn't know what to think of the whole, the whole ordeal and he didn't know how wrong would eat if he did he come back.

How do you think Harry was kind of thinking about if Ron did come back, how would they kind of make up his friends and how would Harry kind of recover the, Pattern that they were developing in terms of making, you know, a better bond and finding horcrux is together. So I think that also plays into his future and the head of the law enforcement or otherwise, if he didn't choose that.

His strengths and weaknesses, I think are included in this. I think his straight he's major, major strengths in being the head of the magical department of law enforcement. My name for that to change is every time. Department law, magical and enforcement. I just say those in any order and assume that you understand what I mean.

I hope we do, but that's kind of what I mean. So I'll just call it the order department. So when Harry becomes the head of the order department, I think is one major struggle. Two and one is his leadership skills and his magical skills. As a leader, he has experienced as being the center of attention. He's been in the center of attention for his whole life, even with the Dursleys, they were always talking about how they wanted to squash the magic out of him and even at his elementary school and his middle school.

And when he was young, I think that also played into his attention. Everyone was kind of noticing, you know, the weird kid now it was Harry in school. That was, he was the weird kid. And of course, especially in school, Being Harry Potter, even more famous than in elementary school and in middle school. Harry is now used to the attention and being then going into Hogwarts and spending, especially in the fifth, sixth and seventh years.

I think he definitely learned how to deal with stress and he definitely learned how to move on from things and know when to leave projects and know when to pick them back up and kind of understand people and know how to work with a crowd. I think it's kind of a lot to take in, but if you just went, if he was the head of the department, I think you would have gained some.

The skills along the way, and really honed at the ideas in his mind that he needed to use in order to become an efficient leader. And I think one of his major, major, major weaknesses is he is a little bit stubborn and shortsighted as much as he is the hero. Harry Potter is the hero. I don't know if he is the most considerate hero.

Yes, he is a. Friend, he's a good person, but he just has a very, you know, straight line way of looking at things, you know, there's good. There's evil. If you cross the Surrey line, there's nothing for it. You're, you know, kind of out of the running of being a good. And that also kind of plays into his stubbornness Harry just has an idea.

And then we, we even saw I'm reading the fifth book right now, and I'm kind of reading about how like seeing Haggard and stuff like that. And the, the, the lessons and seeing umbrage, Harry has a very specific idea in mind and he really, really wants to carry that out. And yes, that could be a strength that could be someone that Harry could use it.

But on the other side of that spectrum, that is a weakness. It's a weakness. And as much as Harry should be, star wars, as much as Harry should see ideas and go for them, if he goes for the ideas that don't work. What's for it. What's for his stubbornness, if it's not useful. So even in the office, even in the aura office, when people are talking to him, giving him ideas, Harry might not take that as much as he should being a good leader, because he has a his own idea in his head that he wants to carry out and he doesn't want to be proven wrong by someone who he thinks might not have the best idea.

 And you might sound mean you might sound cruel, but that's just kind of a very extreme version of the struggles that Harry kind of has in his life. So that just number one,  Another major factor after Hogwarts in Harry's life was the tethers and connections with Voldemort were cut. Now I haven't read the curse child in a very long time, but from what I can recall, I believe he's kind of noticing his partial tongue he's going away, his scar isn't hurting and all the things that he was struggling with.

You know, his, his dreams are gone. All the things that he was struggling with before are gone. And that's probably because Voldemort is done on or not probably it is, but it is because, well, the word is dead and that really plays into his, feeling of. Really being connected with Voldemort in the original books.

and then when those connections are severed, I think Harry really has this kind of realization of okay.  everything worked out, Voldemort is dead. We don't have to worry anymore. And I think that really helps with Harry's just overall sanity, I mean, after that whole traumatic experience with Voldemort, understanding that everything that's, he was had, he had with Voldemort, you know, being with a part of the inside of him, I think it was like he could breathe freely.

For the first time he could recognize the freedom that he had. And finally appreciate that he wasn't working to defeat this massive powerhouse. He wasn't a working to, you know, tame,  a huge Goliath of evil. He wasn't working towards this goal. That seemed impossible. He was working for something that he knew was right, and that he knew he could succeed.

And it's a really refreshing thing to have that it's really refreshing to have something that's not even that difficult to complete. And with Harry being the head of the aura office, not easy in the slightest, but being the head of the, or office after being the face of the rebellion against the dark Lord.

 Maybe more manageable, So Harry's life after Hogwarts was definitely made a lot easier  by the severing of ties with Voldemort's powers. And I think it might also be helping along his thought processes with Draco. And although Harry and Jagan were bitter rivals in school. I think they kind of had a, an, an understanding of each other after the battle of Hogwarts.

And they understood that the other person, you know, Harry thinking about, are you going through thinking about Harry had been through so much and had experienced and sacrificed. And they kind of men then taught her to working towards having a better relationship with each other. And that I think was a, that was a definitely I've kind of drawn out in the 19 years later scene with, seeing Draco in that, sorry.

Horrible costume. I mean, like ridiculous, who gave him that wig anyway.   seeing Draco there and Hara kind of looking over and just like not shying away and just kind of looking away, but kind of like smiling, feeling  good about feeling good about Jericho.

He was glad he could then have a positive relationship with his bullying, but the person who had hated himself, and that is another big, big part of him severing the negative ties he had in his years at Hogwarts with Voldemort's parcel tongue. Voldemort inside of him gone. And then the Drigo, you know, the drink was hatred.

apart from all the death theaters, I say Drigo was probably the person who hated him the most. And then the debt theaters would likely, never forgive Harry. But if Draco. I'd say, Harry kind of thought of that as ultimate, like I did it, I made up to everyone and I defeated Darko.

That's kind of his, don't think he was really thinking of it this way, but I think Zod was his milestone. That was his big goal to make sure that no one was, you know, feeling like they were wronged and they never got to forgive Harry. And they were also kind of on the wrong side of the. when he managed to defeat Voldemort, most of the death theaters and then forgive, be forgiven by the people who used to hate.

that's a pretty good thing to do. And even, I mean, like it's just such a huge process because Draco has been going through so much and all the drink goes and all the Drake episodes we've been doing, we're kind of learning about how his family is having so much pressure. And because his parents, I don't know if his parents went to ask about it, but I can say they've definitely not seen again.

Um, but they were steps. There were definitely. It kind of drawn away from drink gone. I think drinker really appreciated that. I think definitely for his father, he was like, yeah, see you dude. But for his mom, it might have been more of a, his mom might have been more understanding thinking like, like Drigo like we have to do is I'm sorry.

I'm so sorry. You know, I'm no, we've had a great relationship, but I think it's time that we have to say goodbye and you know, you have to go on with your life. Don't be connected to us. Don't begin to have to devote more, just go on and live your life and make an impact. And I think that really empowered Drigo to move on.

And then if Draco was kind of in this new light, trying to explore a new realm of. Forgiving Harry was real the first step in the right direction. And that was the same for Harry seeing Draco and really forgiving him as well. I think the two kind of had a mutual forgiveness moment in that and seeing their kids being sent to Hogwarts and recognizing that they may have been good friends and that.

They were once bullies doing the same thing that they were just sending their kids off to do. It was like a very, very nostalgic moment kind of looking back on the good slash battle days and really see how their relationship evolved. And in that moment of Harry seeing Draco at the platinum. I think it was a huge revelation for Derico and Harry was at the same time because they were sending off their kids and they were thinking just at this time, at this time, you know, however many years ago we were going to hate each other so much.

But now we don't. And I think that's kind of their thought process was now we see each other as equals and now we have a new appreciation for who we are. Before we move on. I just want to quickly mention the significance of Harry keeping in touch with Dudley, because at the end of, well, rather the beginning of the deathly Hallows and the end of Harry and Dudley's relationship, we really saw that It was really a performance, you know, Dudley's hate for hair. It wasn't hate, it wasn't dislike. It was just seeing a new person and going like, Hey, who's this guy, you know, kind of like a talk show. I kind of laughing for the sake of it. And I think with the teacup and with Dudley, shaking hands with Harry and Harry, really not, you know, wanting to get out of the situation, but kind of feeling sad that Dudley was going away.

I think it's definitely on the same note as seeing Draco that helped him keep in touch with Dudley. And although they weren't the best of friends in their previous interactions together, I think Harry handedly keeping in touch is definitely a huge part of, you know, the whole forgiveness idea in how Harry and Lee forgave each.

In the, you know, the light of the new realm and I'm pretty sure they kept in touch with each other, but even if they didn't, they did leave on a good note. And with the, you know, defeating a Voldemort, I think Harry also saw deadly, not as, you know, a bully like Draco, but as an equal and even a friend,  the final topic today that it is very important to mention either.

The symbolism of the trio taking over the ministry. So not taking over like, you know, starting a whole revolution and destroying all the desks and flipping all the chairs are taking over. As in all taking positions of power, her meiny replaced Kingsley shockable has the leader of the ministry.  Harry became the head of the aura department and Iran also for a short time joined Harry as an oral or so huge positions that these three took. And the symbolism of this is really what I think I want to dive into, uh, with this talking point and most. How it reflects in everything they've done so far.

So if we, if we really think about it, Harry and Ron were kind of like the core friendship, that's really where that the trio started and her mind he did join later, but. as Harry has said her, he was great. She was a great friend, but she'll never be Iran. And as much as I think her mind, he's a great friend.

I think that's true because. Harry and Ron, we have to get each other the most and Harani, can't really relate to them very well. And as I, because Harry and Ron both became or whores, I think that just continues to show how alike they are and how they understand.

And even in the next stage of their lives, you know, in even Quidditch in the study bay are almost mirroring each other's footsteps. And that just shows that Harry and Ron are just doing everything. And that's a very good thing because there's such great friends and then friendship continues on into their adult life.

And that's the same with Hermione staying close, but not as close as Ron is to Harry saying, you know, as the leader of the ministry. And I think this is this, this situation is especially mirrored in the, finding of hor cruxes. So the whole trio starts out, you know, The parts of the gang and that Harry and Ron, they kind of separate Ron leaves.

That's, that's exactly what Ron does at the ministry. He leaves his Bishop as, or, and eventually they kind of. Do it, it's just very, very difficult. I think. Well, we can kind of assume as eventually Harry also leaves his vision as an or if it's for a different job or if it's for retirement, Harry and Ron then join each other again.

And they kind of have, you know, the same, the friends at the same friendship as they had before, and then her mind, he does eventually have to step down. And the one she does then kind of the whole trio is back together. And it's kind of the same thing that we saw when Ron returned, Ron, Ron met Harry first, then have Vermont, that her mind, he joined the trio back again.

And although this is definitely a part of the symbolism, I don't think of the core value of what I'm talking about here. The main symbolism, the main, you know, kind of showing of this is. How, you know, the, the Wizarding world was after Voldemort, so Voldemort's was defeated and then they kind of have this whole.

yay. We did it this whole celebration, but they're still a ministry of magic to tend to, and it's a very common thing for the hero to take over, you know, the good side, stuff like that. And although I don't think it was thought out. I think Harry, Ron and her mind, he went into the ministry for definitely for a different reason than just Joe's motivation for, I want to make sure that these people end up in the ministry.

I think it was more a showing of. How can Harry Ron and her mind continue to be the people that they always were the magic of the trio is that they are vitriol. Harry, Ron, and Hermione are great friends. They have grade bonds, they know each other so well. And instead of shifting all of those bonds and changing their relationships, I think if they know, just because of their going into the ministry, It shows just how strong they are.

And it just goes to show the whole world of how their friendship can just stay the same and they can continue doing the things they have always been doing. And that's a very large part of the story. I think, especially if we're looking back from this, you know, point in the future to back into the story of Harry Potter.

Kind of thinking about how, they were altogether kind of working around the same challenges and working through the same goal. And moving them all into the ministry and showing them all the path that is the same, I think is a great way to continue this friendship that they have always had just moving them from one place to another, as a unit, not thinking of them separately and just happening to move them into the same place, moving the whole chunk.

Person, heroine, who I need that whole block of people moving them to the same place over and over again. You know, that's just, it's a very creative way of showing how they have created these amazing bonds and how those bonds will likely, never break.

 think that's it. Nice. That was a great episode. How was very fun to record? And I don't, we really, we only got through a couple of talking points. I had so many more, but that I think that's a, that's a good stopping place for. And I'm very excited to move on to some Halloween episode, some more part twos and new series.

I've got a lot of content planned out and I hope you will enjoy it when it does come out. I actually just had my first cup of hot cocoa yesterday for the winter, and I am very excited and very proud of myself. So very, very delicious. I was very fancy. I put in some marshmallows too, and I always get the same kind of hot cocoa.

I always have the same, you know, this, the same brand and it always smells the same way. And I always have haka in the winter. And when I made that first cup and smelled it, I was like, oh, Smells like winter. So I'm so glad Nicole is finally starting winter. In fact, I'm a favorite season and around me it does snow.

So I love the snow, you know, going out on long walks through the icy nature. So great stuff winter. I know it's not a lot of people say everybody. It is my. So that's fun. yeah, great episode. I am very happy with that. I hope you enjoy this as much as I did. And if you have anything else you want to add to this episode, even if you have anything else you want to add to another episode, go ahead and use those two links in the show notes and speed by page link, Google form link.

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