The Chamber of Secrets Has Been Opened! (Tea Leaves S2 E1) | How the founders created the Chamber, the legend evolving into the current day

In this episode, we begin the second season of our version of the Harry Potter TV show. Enjoy!

Topics/Summary:

·      1:54 Let’s set some goals. 1) Explore Hogwarts. We haven’t seen the whole grounds by now, and there is so much more history to explore. 2) Develop relationships. Especially for arcs like Snape and Harry, beginning to see their relationship take form will lead to a huge payoff later on. 3) Begin Voldemort’s arc. Tom Riddle is the main villain of this book, and we can use his past and memories to understand a little more about Voldemort. This Tom Riddle feels almost closer to the Goblet of Fire Voldemort than the back-of-the-head thing from last book.

·      10:33 We begin in the days of old. That’s what I wrote in my notebook. We should begin with the founders of Hogwarts and their dynamics. Salazar Slytherin wanted to keep Hogwarts for pure-blood students and that’s why he was cast out, leading to the creation of the Chamber. 

·      18:15 Moving forward through time. As the founders fall into the legend, the Chamber falls into legend with it. We lose a little bit of the gravitas if we snap forward in time and skip over the thousand years in the middle. We should end this section with Hagrid and Tom Riddle’s time at Hogwarts, and seeing the Chamber open for the first time.

·      25:24 Now we move into the present day. But not with Harry. The diary Riddle was the driving force in the Chamber, but something had to have worked in the background for that to happen. It would make sense for Voldemort himself to have given Lucius the diary and sent him off to get the gears turning.

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Transcript

Intro

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Welcome to the potter discussion. Welcome back to the potter disgusting disgusting the Harry Potter books, the films, TV shows, and the wizard in world fandom. I'm your host Oscar and this is episode 320. Thank you everybody today for joining me. It is my absolute pleasure to be recording with you today. I am so excited for today's episode because we are finally getting back to Tea Leaves. We have uh laid down a wonderful season one and got some really good discussion in the middle there. But now I am thrilled to be back at it again. So, like I said, we are done with season one. We are now moving on to season two, the Chamber of Secrets. So we will be starting that series today. Man, I am so looking forward to this. I think now we've finally kind of found our footing with this series, really know what it's about. So I think it is gonna be such a fun time to really dig in now that we really know what we're doing and really craft this season to the absolute best it can be. So, first of all, I want to thank you all so much for tuning in, and I certainly hope you'll stick around for this season. Uh and and hopefully we will have a a uh wonderful time. If you have anything that pops into your head while you're listening, or if you have any uh questions, comments, any other topics, if you have ice, especially if you have ideas for this coming season, it's not too late, so definitely write in uh thepotter discussion at gmail.com. That is the potter discussion at gmail.com. You can go ahead and also text the show. That's the very first link in the show notes. Uh so a lot of great actions to reach out. Do not hesitate if you have anything you want to add. Uh but with that, let's get into today's episode.

Let’s set some goals

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So, now that we're in season two, I want to set some goals for this season because there are some key things that I want to achieve that will set us up for more successful seasons. The first big one is explore Hogwarts. And I mean that in a few ways. The first one is literally hopefully we've gotten a pretty good idea of what Hogwarts is uh in the last book, but it never hurts to keep exploring. I think part of uh Hogwarts, the whole idea of the castle is that it is almost never ending. Like there are so many little nooks and crannies to explore. There are so many places to see. I think it would be impossible for us to truly see everything in and about the castle in just one season. Of course, seeing as that season is surrounded uh uh is is about the story, not about the castle. If we had, you know, an hour of a tour of Hogwarts, we could probably see all the places, but we definitely do not have that. So it is imperative that we continue exploring. I think there are places that like we we should have those kind of in our minds, like if we maybe see the room of requirement or you know, something like that that plays a big role. We, you know, learn more about the Great Hall, the ceiling, you know, all that. Like things things like that that are are going to become much more important. I think it's I think it's a a really good decision to begin looking at those things now. So when we get there, you know, when the important thing that happens there uh comes to pass, we have a connection to that place. It means something to us. I think that's why the final battle scene, the final duel between Harry and Voldemort is so impactful, because it takes place in the Great Hall, you know. It's the it's the hall where Harry has lived his life, you know, where he's had his highest highs and his lowest lows. I think it's a really, really uh a good decision to have that there. And, you know, a little spoiler, we probably will have it there too. You will definitely be going against the film in that in that regard. So exploring Hogwarts is a big one. Next is another really important one, and that is about relationships. I want to continue to discover relationships. I think I mean relationships are really where this whole thing is built, and how they change and how they interact is, I think, enough a defining factor of not only the main characters, but also how the conflict develops, you know, who's on whose side. Uh, that is a big question, especially getting into the later books. So with season two, I want to begin the tradition, I guess. I want to build that foundation of really knowing who is who and what is what. If if we can point to a character and know where their allegiances are, I think it is gonna be a success. And it is those characters uh who are more mysterious that really make this story tick. So what I guess what I'm saying is, I wanna know, you know, I want to better understand the characters. I want to better understand who they are, uh, who they feel connected with, and why. I think that would really give us a really good insight into the story. And especially with those characters who whose connections really mean something as the story goes on. I'm thinking especially of like, of course, the trio, but I'm also thinking of like Snape, uh Snape's attachment to Harry, which is so hard to see. And I think we're in such an early stage of the story still that it is impossible to really understand uh just the had the extent, you know, really how Snape feels uh for Harry. I think it is one of those relationships that I think means the most in the end, for sure. I mean, thinking of you know the scene where Snape is dying in the lake house, that is such an impactful scene. And then when Harry takes his memory, we really learn more about him. Now that we know that that scene in some shape or form is coming, how do we set up the relationship? That's what I really want to discover, and that's what I think the most value uh would that's that's where I think we would get the most value is really understanding that and building that up from the beginning. So discovering relationships is another super important thing on the list. And the last and maybe most impactful is Voldemort. So we kind of got Voldemort in the last book. I mean, we saw him on the back of Coral's head, but not really. And it's kind of the same with this book. It's like we see him, but not really, because it's not him. You know, it's it's it's a memory, it's his whore crux. That's what we don't know at the time, but that's what it is. It's his is his whore crux. We don't really see him, we don't really meet him until the goblet of fire, which I think I think that's a that's a good choice story-wise, because it's almost like it's it's like Hermione says, you know, fear of the name only increases fear of the thing itself. And she is absolutely right. If we don't really know the thing, you know, if we can't see him, if just his his you know, it's it's like he's a he's a patronist that hasn't quite taken sh you know taken shape. We we know what he is, we know who he represents, but we we don't know him yet. So Voldemort is a big goal for this season. And then I'm not just saying Voldemort goal, like I'm what I what I want to get out of this is to set up Voldemort's arc, because I think it's an interesting argument, you know, it's an interesting episode to make. And of like, where does Voldemort's arc really start? You could argue it is the very first page, you know, where we see, you know, the the the parties happening, everyone listening, lifting their glasses to to Harry Potter, his parents giving their lives for him. You could say that that's where his arc starts, and I think I would tend to agree. But where I think it really starts to take shape, you know, where where we we we really begin to see changes, as I think in the Chamber of Secrets, because we start to kind of we we almost start along the trail to his true form. He is so broken in the first film, you know, he's so not himself, like he's such a shell. I think it's so hard to make the connection. Like that Voldemort is in my mind so far away from the Voldemort who we meet in the Goblet of Fire. But this memory in the diary, even though it's just a little sliver, even though it's just the one part of who he is, for some reason this memory feels so much more like him. It feels like this is much closer to who he really is. And even though it is, I mean, if you look at it, you know, a much farther representation from who he is. From a different time, he is, you know, a soul separate from the actual being, you know, he is so separated, but you know, he is still something about him is just so similar to Voldemort. I mean, Tom Riddle, you know, Tom Riddle is Voldemort. So it is a really important thing that, first of all, we we meet Tom Riddle, but we also dive deep. And in addition to learning about Tom Riddle, we kind of maybe get to see his past a little bit, you know, his his his growing up. I think it would be a shame if we save all the memories for the Half-Blood Prince, which is of course where where they are. Uh Harry and Dumbledore going back in time, uh, I guess going back into the pensive and seeing the memories. It it would be a shame if that's how long we have to wait, especially now knowing uh that that is how long we have to wait. I don't want to have to wait, I want to see it so we can really, really build up. Because honestly, I think those memories would be even more impressive once we get there if we've kind of been having them all along, like flashbacks almost. But then Dumbledore kind of gives them, you know, shows uh us the the memories for real. Like I don't even we don't even have to have you know a full scene. It can just be like some blurred image, some some little thing, some some tiny glimpse into Tom Riddle. I think that would that would be enough. So that is another big goal for this season. Those are the expectations that I want to set. I just want to get those done early. I want to put those on the ground because basically every episode we are gonna be kind of revisiting these, not not uh, you know, explicitly discussing them in every episode, but these are kind of the the basis. Uh this is this is the basis for much of our of our upcoming discussion. I think there's a lot to get out of this season, and there's a lot that we have to put in. So those are the expectations that I want to set. Definitely keep those in your brain. We will be coming back to them, like I said, but we have an episode to start, so let's move on.

We begin in the days of old

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Season two, episode one, begins in the days of old. That's that's what I wrote, and I'm so so happy that I wrote that. The days of old. And what I mean by that is the founders of Hogwarts. I think there is no better time to go all the way back than in the season where the discussions around the origins of the Chamber of Secrets are. The Chamber of Secrets represents this I this idea, this kind of tradition of Hogwarts, you know, this old feeling, you know, that of course the castle is is very old, and there are a lot of stories, there are a lot of little things that we just don't quite understand yet. That's the feeling that I really get from this experience, and that's where I want to begin. So I what I imagine is the season opens and it's there's there's no music, we're we're in the forest. We're we're in the forest, kind of, you know, looking around. It's just, you know, the camera and us, like we're just we're just living in this in this forest, and there's you know, it's it's beautiful, it's summer, and we see, you know, animals and and little streams, and it's such a pleasant place, and we see someone walking by and we don't we aren't sure who it is, you know. And the idea here for me at least is this is you know one of the founders of Hogwarts. I haven't I'm not really picky of a g of of who. I immediately thought of Helga Huthelpuff. I think she would be definitely one for a stroll in the woods. And we, you know, we follow her, maybe she's foraging mushrooms, maybe she's you know, bird watching, taking the notes on the plants, or you know, something something like that. I think that is a uh a really great place to start because it's it's such a simple life. That's what I want to highlight. It is so simple, it is so free. That's that's really where where they're living. And we follow Hufflepuff out of the woods and we see in the distance Hogwarts. And it's I don't want to start from like the idea. I think we definitely should start from a place of, you know, the school is built and it is there's some function, you know, maybe it's a little smaller than than you know you would think. I think it maybe would look a little different, like they haven't quite added on all the different towers. Like maybe there's only like one. Maybe that uh, you know, like the I'm looking at words right now. I have a big poster on my wall. Uh maybe there's only like the the the huge chamber with the great hall and that that massive tower attached to it. Maybe like all the uh all the other stuff quite hasn't been uh built yet. I think that that would make sense. Something like that, you know, where Hogwarts isn't quite totally built, but we definitely know what it is. So we see her walk out of the woods and slowly walk towards Hogwarts. Maybe realize who she is. Maybe we finally see that. Uh, and we really get to live in their life, you know, we get to see uh their their everyday. And and you know, I don't want to go through, you know, weeks just living, you know, with in in their sphere. But what I really want to then get into is how did they build the chamber. So maybe we are there for a few days, you know, and they're they're discussing. The four founders are discussing, maybe they're the professors at the school, and maybe they have they have some students at this point, you know. I I wouldn't be surprised if they have a few dozen students. It's not not nearly the size of Hogwarts as we know it, but maybe they they have a few dozen, you know. And this is, of course, they say that Hogwarts was founded, what, about a thousand years ago. So assuming this is you know around the year a thousand, a little before the year a thousand, there's gonna be some. I am looking forward to the the clothing and you know the artwork and those those kinds of choices. I think that would be such a fascinating discovery of Hogwarts, you know, is is walking around, seeing, you know, how how their uniforms have changed, the the books, the classes, the language, you know, all of that. I wouldn't be surprised if they you know they're they're speaking old English or even some you know some some s sort of Scottish uh variation back in back in back in the day. So, you know, that that would be such a such a cool thing to see. And they discuss the chamber, you know, they but it's not necessarily the chamber because as we know Salazar Slytherin kind of built it on his own. Like this this wasn't a publicly funded project by any means. So maybe we get to kind of see some of the tension, you know, we get to see that Slytherin is kind of cast out, you know, that he's he's not really part of the group, and maybe it hasn't quite started yet, but maybe Slytherin, you know, because of course he was Salzar Slytherin was initially cast out because he wanted to only invite purebloods to the school. Which honestly seems like a much smaller issue back in that time because I would guess there were a lot more purebloods. The whole thing, you know, now nowadays, uh, with with Hogwarts that that we know today, is that you know purebloods are our few. They're muggled, you know. Of course, I think like they were sp there are probably laws against um marrying muggles back back when they were uh you know living. And I mean, even even in the uh Fantastic Beasts in the 1920s in America, we see just how how taboo it is for with for wizards and nomadges to mix. So you can only imagine a thousand years ago, literally a thousand years ago, how that would also be similar. So I think it's a it's an interesting dynamic that that we set up here, and maybe we gain a little sympathy for for Slytherin, because now that I'm really saying it, you know, if if it is illegal to marry, you know, to marry a muggle for, you know, for a wizard or witch to marry a muggle, is it so bad to say, you know, okay, well, we don't want them here because they are, you know, they are technically illegal. And of course, that is a terrible thing to say, and I am, I'm, I am, I'm gonna make it clear, I am playing the devil's advocate here. But what what I would want is to, especially now that now we can see him and really get to know him, uh, maybe we gain some sympathy. You know, we see how he is cast out. I think that we can appreciate. Uh, we can maybe for a second see, like, oh, like I I'm sorry that that happened to him because he's this big evil guy in in the you know in the canon that we know. So again, like Voldemort, like Snape, like all these other evil characters, gaining a little edge of like, like, oh, I didn't I didn't know that about him. Maybe that could help. So, of course, he is unfortunately in the wrong, uh, but he is also a human. Uh at least we think. I don't know. He is he is human and he has feelings and he has he has relationships, and I think we can appreciate that. So that is where I absolutely think we have to start this episode because we cannot just get thrown into the story and learn about the chamber later on. We don't have that surprise, we don't have the moment where we think, oh my gosh, you know, the chamber is open, the you know, something's happening, and like all like it's just you know, it's uh it's it's a tough thing to have that that experience. So I am very hopeful that we can have this mix, that we can have that that that experience. I think now, especially because we d we know about it, you know, from the very beginning, it means so much more to us to have the knowledge and to really know the backstory when we get there, you know. Like when Harry opens it, it's not the first time he's been there, but it's the first time it means something that he's there. You know, that's the feeling I want to invoke. So it is imperative that we start here, and with that, let's move on.

Moving forward through time

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Next, I want to go a little bit forward because as the founders kind of fall into legend, I want to witness how the chamber kind of falls into legend with them. Because that gravitas is a very important factor in the kind of mystery of this book. We don't we aren't quite sure what's going on, we aren't quite sure what the chamber of secrets entails, you know, why is it open? What does that mean? That's what we're worried about. If we were talking about like a broom closet, it would probably not be the same. You know what I'm saying? Because, you know, with with the chamber, we have a thousand years of history and a track record of some bad things coming about when it is open. And that legacy really only comes from this time, you know, from when after it was after it was built, uh, uh, you know, and how it how it kind of is is not a public-facing, you know, thing. It's not like that's the famous part of Hogwarts, but it's rumored because it was built for Slytherins, you know, and I don't know why it was originally built. Maybe that's a part of the reason why we uh are go go back in time so far to the founders. Maybe we maybe we we see that, maybe we learn that. But we want to have that separation because if we go directly from this time from when Hogwarts is founded, snap forward to the future, I think we do we we lose a little bit of that. We we lose a little bit of that. But if we go if we go a little slower, if we see it, you know, fall away, if we see the whispers kind of fade, and then you know, we realize that the whispers are quieter, but but they haven't stopped. And that is that's the legacy that that the chamber has left behind. And that is the legacy that we are heading into. So this is a fascinating time. This is this is a really fascinating time. Maybe we're moving past, you know, the uh thousand years ago mark, maybe we're going through, you know, Protestant Reformation territory, uh, and and we begin to see that. I think this is also a great excuse to explore the history of Hogwarts. This is getting uh a little bit at that first goal that we set earlier in the in this episode to explore the history of Hogwarts. We uh we get to see the phases of Hogwarts, you know, how does it change? How does it build? How do the students change? You know, language and and and clothing and the style of teaching. How does it all kind of evolve? That is such I mean I would watch I would watch eight hours a season of that alone, truth be told. So I think this is a perfect opportunity to to do that. And maybe we maybe we witness some students like stumble on it by accident, and maybe maybe they don't come back. I wouldn't be surprised if that basilisk uh, you know, was not the first creature to live there. Of course, it's a dark, you know, wet, dank place under the school. I think it makes sense for something to uh to to take up residence. Of course, I think the basilisk that we know was hatched by Hagrid? I I forget actually. I I I forget what it was. I think oh no, no, no, no. Okay, I'm getting confused. I haven't read this book in so long. I think what it was, so Hagrid was dealing with Aragog, and that's how Tom Riddle got him expelled, but Hagrid, um, you know, Tom Riddle accused Hagrid of that being the beast, uh, was was Aragog, which of course it wasn't. But m I think uh was it Tom Riddle that really that that that put the basilisk there? It could be, it could be. So anyway, I will I will definitely do my research, but I think this is a good this is a good chance to, you know, really see what else has lived there, because of course. Uh what we do know is the basilisk has not lived there forever, so there are absolutely other opportunities. However, I wouldn't be surprised if other snake-like creatures uh had lived there before. I mean, you know, Salazus his his his face, his huge face and stone is there, and his mouth opens and the basilisk comes out. Ugh. You know, what if there's like a dragon down there? That's that would that would be pretty crazy. So, anyway, there are a lot of super, super important moments that we have along the way. So I want to make sure that we catch them all. But the flash forward, I think, should not be complete until we have Hagrid and Tom Real. I think that is perhaps the most important part of this whole, you know, you know, starting from the founders, moving forward in time. Because it is that moment that sets up this story most, I think, most directly. Because of course, you know, all they say in the current times of the Chamber of Secrets is, you know, the Chamber of Secrets has been open, you know, the first time in 50 years. So what does that mean? What should we expect? And we get that kind of in snippets throughout the film and and the book, but if we can get a little bit now, I think that would set up this conflict so much better. So I want to see Hagrid, you know, I want to see young Hagrid and how he's living at Hogwarts. He's 13 years old, gosh. And uh Tom Riddle is also a student at at Hogwarts at this point, so that's another super, super important thing to keep in mind. So there are a lot of things that I think could influence our view of a lot of characters during this flash forward. I think Hagrid is a character who we don't know a ton about. You know, his backstory isn't super well known, and it's from the little bits that he's told us about his, you know, his his parents, and I think it's especially his relationship with the Giants, you know, when uh Dumbledore sends him away in the Order of the Phoenix. That's when we really learn about him. But if we can build that foundation early, we can really understand those relationships more, which is another uh very important bucket list, another very important goal that we have for this uh season is to develop our relationships. And I think the relationship that Hagrid has to Dumbledore and also to his to his family, I think is important for this little moment here. So it's it's another good time to really see that. And we can also, again, we're hitting all of the we're hitting all the goals with this with this little flashback sequence. Also, Tom Riddle, Voldemort, this is the whole point of of the diary. We are using it to dive back into time and see what the heck is going on. And I think it's important to do that before Harry goes into the diary because those those flashbacks that we see the most, um, that we that we get to see come from Tom Riddle. You know, Tom Riddle uh brings us back in time, he brings us into the diary. So that is where we get to see uh the the past most clearly. But if we can get a little bit of that before, I think that that would be great because then maybe maybe you know Tom Riddle's memory is is different, you know, maybe he he remembers it differently. So I think there are there are a lot of uh you know lines to be made, a lot of dots to be connected uh with a sequence like this. But there are a few more things we want to discuss in this episode, so let's move on.

Now we move into the present day

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So the final part of this episode, the last thing that I want to mention is all about the present day. So we are now moving into the present day, but not with Harry. Not with Harry. I want to talk about why the chamber was opened the second time. Why is it open now? That's what I want to answer before this episode ends in the TV show and this episode. Why are they going to open this chamber again? Well, it is, you know, what what we believe is it's Tom Riddle. Tom Riddle, the the memory, wants to continue what he started. He wants to continue purifying the castle, you know, killing Muggleborns, he wants to reassert himself, and he also wants to use Ginny to kind of restore himself into a physical form. He wants to become whole again. And those are great goals for him. I mean, I'm so glad he's pursuing his his dream. But but I think there's something else to it. Because if you ask me, there's something fishy about just the memory of him coming back. I think there's something fishy about just the memory orchestrating this and kind of using it to his advantage, because if you think about it, the memory is just that. Just a memory. So how how does this whole thing work? Well, that's what I want to finish out this episode with. How is this decision made? Well, I think it is Voldemort himself. I think it is the Voldemort who we know, you know, the the one who who flew away. I think it's that Voldemort. And we see him in such a his his feeble state in the Goblet of Fire. Uh, you know, he's like a look a little a shriveled little thing. And it's almost like that how I imagine him. You know, he's like giving orders. He's more of a like he's more of a shadow than like an actual person. So that's how I kind of see him, and he's giving these orders, he's ordering his death eaters to put him back into Hogwarts to give his horcruxes a chance to re-to, you know, restore himself. I'm sure once his horcruxes are back, you know, back and and and uh powerful, I'm sure then he could use that to sometimes to his advantage somehow to come back to life. You know, I'm sure he could collect some of the horcruxes back into himself and then regain his strength and then make them again. I don't know, something like that. So it may it would make sense for him. So what I want to see next is his discussions. You know, what is he actually doing? He is talking with his with his Death Eaters and he's making these plans, and where I want to go with this is the final, the very final moment of this episode is he, he, Voldemort, and Lucius Malfoy are talking, and they're discussing what they have to do to get the diary to school. And I want the the very final scene to be Voldemort handing the diary to Lucius. And I think this this is very symbolic. There are two things that I want to really hone in on in this scene. The first is how this foreshadows the relationship that Voldemort will form with Draco. That is a big one, and that is the one that I really thought of at first when thinking thinking of this scene. That is that is the thing that I really want to set up in this moment. Because the relationship that Voldemort has with Draco is imperative to move his storyline forward, to move both of their stories forward, and that's kind of how Voldemort's killed. Um, or sorry, that's how kind of Dumbledore is killed in the end. And that's kind of how Draco's arc and like the the Malfoy family arc comes to an end. So Voldemort Hanning, especially knowing how important this diary is, we know that the Horcruxes exist. We know how much trust Voldemort is placing in placing in Lucius. This is kind of the beginning of Voldemort's true relationship with the Malfoys. This is the beginning of their true trust. But we also see how much pressure it puts on Lucius, because Voldemort is saying, you know, and I'm sure Voldemort said Lucius, if you can't do this, you're dead. Like I'm gonna kill you if you can't do this. I am confident he said that. Which is of course a great incentive, and Lucius just so happens to succeed. So uh the that's the first thing I want to uh set up. The second thing is just that connection with Ginny. Because I think once Voldemort hands the diary over to Lucius, then the first thing we will think is, oh my gosh, it's from Voldemort. It's essentially Voldemort handing it to Ginny. That's basically about what we just witnessed. Because we see how easily Lucius stashes it in Ginny's cauldron. Uh, we see just how easy it is for uh him to plant it on our I mean, of course, she's what, 11? Like, I think he can figure it out. So, anyway, that is the last scene. The very last moment, we have Voldemort handing the diary to Lucius, and that's kind of the symbol of the uh conflict beginning. And I know it's so strange to have a full episode without any Harry Potter, without actual Harry, but I think those episodes are perhaps the most valuable. So there you have it. That is the episode. It is complete. We just finished it season two, episode one in the books. So, as we do, of course, the end of every episode, we talk about our revellio. What's one thing we learned? Well, the big one is more history of Hogwarts. Uh, this is really some of the first time that we're getting up close and personal with the founders of Hogwarts, and I hope this will certainly not be the last time. So, that is the big reveal that we get. We get to really understand why they're here, what they're doing, and all that good stuff. So it is such a fun time. I am so glad you can join me today. If you have anything, any comments about this episode, definitely reach out. 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