We talk with William Martin, who has been called the "king of the historical thriller," about his novelistic biography of George Washington, Citizen Washington. What made Washington the indispensable man? We plumb the character of Washington, his theatrical sense, and the Rules of Civility that shaped his life. We also discuss his "American Experience" episode, "George Washington: The Man Who would Not be King," and the passing of our mutual friend David McCullough, and about some of William Martin's other books, including his latest, December '41.