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Set The Standard
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Set The Standard
High Testosterone Lifestyle for Weight loss & Unlimited Energy Mark Holman
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The episode dives deep into the concept of a "High T Lifestyle" and its implications for boosting testosterone levels.
It highlights the interconnectedness of lifestyle choices, nutrition, environmental factors, and stress management, offering practical tools and insights for men seeking to enhance their testosterone and overall well-being.
• Definition and understanding of the High T Lifestyle
• Impact of challenges and competition on testosterone levels
• Environment's role in hormone production
• Significance of nutrition and micronutrient status
• The influence of toxins and environmental factors on testosterone
• Connection between stress and testosterone levels
• Importance of monitoring hormone levels through blood tests
• Practical strategies for incorporating High T principles into daily life
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Boosting Testosterone Through Lifestyle and Environment
Speaker 1Mark Holman , my stud . Thank you for coming on to the show . Yeah , of course , man Bro . So we recorded a podcast and then the editing turned to shit . So we're back here to go hard and what we one of the main things I want to talk about just like straight away is like practical tools men can use to boost their testosterone . You can fuck one , marry one , kill one go . Okay .
Speaker 2Yeah . So the first one I've been getting into this a lot recently is like the high T lifestyle . It's not just taking supplements , it's not just training hard , but it's really like crafting the way you live in a way that requires testosterone . So it's not like the way you live your life makes the testosterone in your body be produced . Does that make sense ? So this is things like challenges like this is why usually people in business and more successful people have higher levels of testosterone , because they're challenging themselves on a daily basis . Competition is a really big one like mentally , mentally , mentally , physically . Any , any type of challenge will give you that that result in business like itself .
Speaker 1It's like is it the like , what's it is ? Is it like the dopamine that you get from like winning a challenge ?
Speaker 2yeah , so it's it's dopamine and testosterone heavily correlated , so there's a a function there . But if you think about evolutionarily , men with higher testosterone levels were more dominant and therefore their lineage was able to continue . And the lower T people they kind of suffered out and they didn't proliferate .
Speaker 1All right , we're going to continue on this , but I still got some questions . Sorry , remember where you're at right , but I need to dig into this . So does that mean that , like , let's say , you had those guys , as you said , you got the high t dudes and then the ones who had low t and then like , phased out ?
Speaker 2but you , what you're saying here is someone's environment and lifestyle will depend if they have high t or not . Yeah , exactly so if we , if we play the example of like let's take a guy who lives in his parents basement . He , uh , doesn't go out much , his job is just on the computer . He codes . He doesn't really like it . Um , his intimacy comes from watching porn . He doesn't have a community . That lifestyle . You don't need testosterone at all . Cause like , in order to court and find a mate , you just take out your phone and you scroll . So where's the demand for testosterone in that ? When we'll take the other guy who's like crushing it in business he's out in the world . He's like pursuing women , he's pursuing business deals . He's competing , not only just in business but maybe in sports and like combat , martial arts and stuff like that . There's much more demand for him to be dominant just from how he lives his life and so that therefore his physiology is getting the signal that we need more tea , and so it produces it .
Speaker 1So that's kind of cool because when I did a lot of study on DNA stuff for a while , essentially what I learned was there's like I can't remember where the theory come from , but they call it traffic lights . So you have green , orange and red in regards to how your DNA works , and what will happen is your environment and your situation . Whatever's going on , if there's like mold in the room , it'll trigger genes for mold that are needed or like that your body uses in detoxifying or whatever it is . That gene will now go green and because it's green , it's turned on and then , until you change that , it's going to be green for a while , but sometimes that green can still remain turned on for like months after you've even had any mold exposure , until eventually it's like oh , there's nothing around here , it calms down and goes off . Are you saying that's like what happens in regards to test as well ?
Speaker 2yeah , it's , it's very similar . Yeah , so like um , the thing with genetics , like your genetics , um , load the gun , but the environment pulls the trigger , so everyone kind of has the same . Well , genetically we're all different , so some people will have the predisposition to have higher test levels than others , but we can kind of find trends and so trends kind of go across the average . So , having the environment yeah , like essentially what you're saying having the environment that requires high T , your body's going to produce that , unless then we start getting into the things that we're facing these days , like , unless you're loaded with toxins , you have microplastics all in your body , your nutrition is shit . Those are all factors that are at play as well .
Speaker 1Okay , that makes a lot of sense . So let's get back to the high T lifestyle from where you were at before . I interrupted with the men in business .
Speaker 2It was men in business , it was people that when you're breaking down the different factors , Dopamine and testosterone are heavily correlated , but it's also if we go back to evolution in order to dominate and to move . Our whole purpose as humans from an evolutionary standpoint is to proliferate and like further the species , and testosterone is one of the main things for men that help us do that . It's very heavily correlated with status too . So like social status , and you know , if you have higher social status , you're more , you're getting a more worthy , uh , intimate partner , and therefore those two go hand in hand as well .
Speaker 2Um , there's a really cool study . Um , they looked , they had four different groups , so they had a . They placed a man in a sports car driving downtown or on a highway and then they placed the same man in a family sedan driving in a downtown area , populated , or on a highway , kind of isolated , and what they saw was in the sports car , testosterone levels were elevated significantly . Um , and so that kind of comes back to that conversation of elevated status , because it was a porsche and that is a lot .
Speaker 1That was an elevation of status compared to what they probably normally drove so would men compare themselves to other successful men or other people in general ?
Speaker 1Because I know there's one thing that a lot of men do which they say they don't do , but I'm like every fucking guy is comparing himself . Yeah , shut up , you compare yourself to other people , right , like we all do , especially as men like oh , where's their status at ? And I think it's important that we do , because we have like hierarchies around that . And I have this theory in my coaching where I'm like you want to pick certain hierarchies , screw the other hierarchies and just climb them , because you're never gonna like , it's gonna be almost impossible to get to the top . Yeah , right , some people will for the bezos and whoever , but it's like you want to get to the top of the try to get to the top of the hierarchies that you choose and you want to be always continuously pursuing and climbing . But it's crazy because when we're comparing ourselves , that men who are different hierarchies or the same hierarchies , who we deem as better than us , or further along the journey , or whatever it is , it's just test envy , yeah , yeah .
Speaker 2It's like , yeah , that's what it boils down to . He's just got a higher test than me Fuck .
Speaker 1Because this is how we compare right . We say this as men . We'll say this Yo , that guy's got a lamborghini , that's amazing . Yeah , but I'm way more jacked than he is .
Speaker 2Yeah yeah yeah , exactly , it's like oh , he drives a big truck , his dick's probably tiny , right ? Yeah , that's another thing in america , I don't know if you have it in the us .
Speaker 1Yeah , overcompensate , yeah , but yeah , well , the same thing is like someone could be like oh , that guy's jacked as hell . He doesn't make as much money as I do , though .
Speaker 2Yeah , he hasn't got as many followers on social media , he can't pull as many girls as I can yeah , it can't be .
Speaker 1Yeah , he's got all the muscles and got all the money , but he can't pull any chicks . Yeah , it's all just a competition of testosterone yeah , exactly , yeah , that's amazing yeah , I was just thinking . I was like , oh , my goodness gracious . But yeah , you've been doing all the research and helping people , like you know , getting tests and raising their test . What are some tools that you have found that are just like you know when you've done tests people's bloods and stuff that you're like these legitimately work like across the board of work for your clients ?
Speaker 2yeah , so the way I approach hormones and health in general is like very holistically so asking for a friend , by the way yeah , it all starts with with blood work .
Speaker 2Right , and it's not just hormones , it's not just like testosterone and free tests , like we look at the whole picture , because hormones are fairly downstream and if they're upstream , things like , let's say , gut health , like if they have low stomach acid , they're not going to be able to digest and assimilate the nutrients in the food . And testosterone is heavily correlated to your micronutrient status okay , okay , let's pause on this .
Speaker 1Yeah , right , as you're on there . So because one thing that you said to me during the week , or is this week or last week , we're hanging out and you were like , yeah , well , a lot of people that I find common amongst all my people is they just have low stomach acid . Yeah , right , so before we get into the micronutrients because I am such a big believer and passionate about micronutrients how the hell do we adjust , fix our stomach acid , right ? Yeah , like supplementally and then like root causes as well ?
Speaker 2Yeah , so you know there can be a ton of different root causes . H pylori is one . What's that ? So it's a parasite that gets into the stomach . It binds onto something called the parietal cells , which essentially helps produce stomach acid . So it dampens stomach acid , so it can essentially live .
Speaker 1All right . So how does one accumulate , that Accumulate ?
Speaker 2H pylori . Yeah yeah , it's crazy how common it actually is . I don't know the specific statistic but , like , maybe 80% of people have it Now , symptom-wise , they might have it and it might not be creating symptoms , so that's one thing . There's not be creating
Micronutrients, Gut Health, and Testosterone
Speaker 2symptoms , um , so that's one thing . There's something called matula tea which is crazy good for it . It's a bunch of different herbs and stuff . Um , the traditional approach is like nuke it with antibiotics , like three different courses , but that's only making it worse . Um , you're killing the rest of your gut back to bacteria . It might not even kill the h pylori . Um , so this matula tea is actually really cool . It's expensive tea , but it works . What ?
Speaker 1is it like matula tea , is it ? It's a tea , it's a tea . It's just a bunch of different blend of herbs and stuff . I thought it was like some testosterone but , a question , do you know this one ? This h polaroid , h , h polaroid , h polaroid . If I kissed someone and they had h polaroid , yeah , and we were exchanging yeah , so saliva it's interesting .
Speaker 2So whenever someone one of my clients or anyone is going on H pylori cleanse essentially or killing it , they need their partner to do it as well , because it's very High contagion yeah , high contagion . They need to like get a new toothbrush or like switch their toothbrushes out , because it'll be left on there and that's why it's so prevalent , because it's very contagious . But also getting into like moving on past H pylori , zinc deficiency , vitamin B12 deficiency are heavily correlated with that as well , because you need zinc and B12 to essentially produce stomach acid , but then it's a catch-22 because you need stomach acid to assimilate and digest zinc . So it's kind of an interesting paradigm to get stuck in .
Speaker 1Started from the bottom . Now we're here .
Speaker 2Yeah , um , so usually the approach is determine is it h pylori or is it more on the nutrient side or something else causing it ? Because the approach is different . If it's h pylori , you don't want to use stomach acid because that'll make things worse . Whoa , because H pylori correlates with inflammation in the stomach called gastritis . If you throw in more acid , it's going to make the person uncomfortable .
Speaker 1So if you're having like , so that's it's interesting to know . Like you know , cause for me , someone who's just like I just anti-hate going and seeing people because I have a superiority ego complex and I like to figure everything out myself and stuff the hard way Right For a lot of things , not with coaching , but for health stuff I just it was like that . So for me how I would take that if I was like , take a use around , I was like cool , take some things that are going to improve my stomach acid . And if it makes me feel discomfort , like okay , you've probably got a different problem and you shouldn't be taking the acid and you've got to heal it in a different way .
Speaker 1It's handy to know , because I feel like people who may be resistant , like me , might go oh shit , maybe I should actually go and get someone to help me out with my test , Because you know , if you're taking stomach acid stuff and you got a little bit of reflux and then you realize it doesn't work , you're like , well , I'm gonna have to dig deeper in this because it's not working . Now I'm lost for words . So yeah , so it was that the H-polarite and then , and then zinc and B12 .
Speaker 2And so the approach for that is supplementing would help , but also you have to support stomach acid with , like some betaine , hcl , what's that also , you have to support stomach acid with , like some betaine hcl . What's that ?
Speaker 1that's just like stomach acid , essentially oh , hcl , yeah , what was the other one ?
Speaker 2you said betaine , it's just , it's , oh yeah yeah , which is hydrochloric acid ?
Speaker 1yeah , essentially , yeah , yeah , cool . So in terms of tools , then that was like the gut . Yeah , that was the uh reflux , the question that I asked in there . There was something else that you mentioned . It wasn't just the stomach acid , it was like stomach acid micronutrients .
Speaker 2Yeah , micronutrients yeah , and so that kind of went into the stomach acid , because you need stomach acid to digest the same protein , and the main micronutrients is zinc and B12? .
Speaker 2For stomach acid . Yes , zinc is really heavily correlated with testosterone as well , because , if so , that's like a double whammy you're low in zinc , so you have low stomach acid , but you're also low in zinc , so maybe your immune system is fucked . Or also , you need zinc for luteinizing hormone , which is the signal that tells your balls to produce testosterone . So that's why zinc is touted as a test booster because you need it to produce lh bro .
Speaker 1I bet everyone just listening that right now is like , yeah , I'm about to get me some zinc .
Speaker 2I'm glad you say that I'm glad you say that , because it doesn't matter if you're like , if you're not deficient in zinc , it's not going to boost your test at all . So that's like why I have such an issue with test boosters and just like throwing all the shit into a product but it you're not really assessing for the individual what that person needs .
Speaker 2So like the test booster could work for some people because it has what they need , but for other people it doesn't do shit and so then the people that it doesn't work , they're like oh , the natural route of boosting testosterone is bullshit , I'm gonna hop on trt , y'all are all idiots . And then they go down that route and I'm over here like , well , did you like go down the sequential path that you needed to and really looked into the product , that product that you were taking ? And more often than not , the answer is absolutely not . It's just I want a quick fix . I want to feel better . I'm gonna inject myself with an exogenous hormone .
Speaker 1Yeah , I'm gonna juice up with them , steroids bro yeah um , so essentially like what I find fascinating , but zinc as a supplement , though . What I find fascinating about it , though , is I feel like most people , just in general , have a low zinc and need to have zinc , I feel like , as a supplementary . Like you know , vitamin it's something pretty handy that most people can take without having to like . Oh , I've been , like you know , prescribed with this thing . It's just like a daily boost , like majority of people's zinc is low .
Speaker 2It's better to take it than to not take it , right ? Um , so you can come into issues with supplementing zinc , like long term , because it's a zinc and copper are kind of back inversely correlated . So if you super dose your zinc or you take zinc for a long time , that'll that can plummet your copper , which can create some issues it's so crazy .
Speaker 1I forget that with minerals they have this um , they have an inverse relationships and people don't know about that . Yeah , same thing with coconut water , because it has so much potassium that like you can drink so much coconut water . I drink coconut water all day because there's too much potassium in there . It absolutely ruins some of their health or hydration , whatever it is , because their sodium gets completely like sucked out . Yeah , so would that mean , you know , for a period of time . Then it's like like I'm like what do you do about that ? So I just assume you just like you just take zinc every day for 30 days that has copper in it . Yeah , because zinc and copper supplement .
Speaker 2That's usually what I recommend . Like some , there's a product a now foods product that has copper in it , and if it's a good quality supplement , like they know , they know that zinc and copper are inversely correlated , so they might throw a little bit of copper in there . The best way to for me is , like you know , get these micronutrients from food . So grass fed beef liver high in zinc , high in copper , you know you're doing good just eating that it . You know maybe the taste sucks . I'm not a fan , but getting it in a way that you can manage , can you get it which is yum , a way that it's yum ? Yeah , I don't know . I've here . I hear that people like cooking it with onions and it tastes good but I've never .
Speaker 1I'm saying like another food ingredient , like I've . Um , yeah , when I was doing some research around zinc , it was like oysters , bison has way higher zinc and anything that was . I think there was one herb as well I can't remember off the top of my head , but then it was any sort of meat that was unique .
Speaker 2Well , any kind of red meat is going to be high in zinc . Is higher in zinc , yeah yeah .
Speaker 1But is there anything that prevents zinc from absorbing as well ?
Speaker 2yeah . So this is where , like , the anti-nutrient conversation comes in . But that's the thing . Like zinc isn't really found in plant-based foods , so yeah , for nothing is kind of coming to mind in terms of foods that you'd eat . That would hinder it Probably , just like other vegetables with like things like phytic acid or oxalates just in general inhibit the absorption of nutrients . So , like you know , maybe having red meat with foods like that could cause an issue , kind of just like extrapolating and inferring at this point right now so what are the do's and don't do's ?
Speaker 1that like in terms if I wanted to increase my test and it was just like general , you're like , without having to go and look at my bloods , you're like , yeah , don't do this because that's definitely going to kill your test and definitely do do this because it's definitely going to improve your test in regards to a high t lifestyle yeah so .
Speaker 2So training is really important here . You want to be training with intensity , so heavy weight , heavy weight um , lifting weights , any type of high intensity so like sprinting , is really good . That actually increases something called dht , which is kind of like the big brother of testosterone is it better than testosterone they do they do different things , but like dht is like it's stronger than testosterone .
Speaker 2So people inject themselves with dht not not many people do , but some people do . Like biohacking people do why , um , it's , it's more responsible for like the masculinization of people , so like beard growth , jawline , deeper voice , um , it's it's stronger . So like muscle building as well , but it's it's always you got to think about the , the system as a whole and you don't want to just like blast dht because that could fuck you up . I was gonna say it's like go head into the dhd deal after this next minute .
Speaker 1That's why they get that giga chad jaw and just just coming down here oh yeah , um .
Speaker 2So training , training with high intensity is really important . Um , we talked about having micronutrient dense diet , so , like training and nutrition , get those locked in um . The next one is kind of toxin exposure . So I want to pause on the micronutrients just to give some people some tips on here before we get kind of toxin exposure .
Speaker 1So I want to pause on the micronutrients just to give some people some tips on here before we get into the toxin exposure , microtoxin exposure , because what I know for sure with micronutrients is just getting a range of different vegetables and fruits in every day yeah , like a large range , like even for me , like most times when I'm in the shops or I'm going somewhere , I always try to grab like something random or out of the blue in regards to a vegetable or a fruit that I haven't had in a while , to try to get some sort of micronutrient , especially when I'm traveling , because I usually just eat the same shit . Yeah , I get into the habit of eating the same shit and I go shit , I'm gonna grab like a kiwi fruit and like mixed bag , like celery , my friend said , and he had guacamole , but that was one with all these different herbs and all this stuff , and then I was like , oh , thank god , there's like a mix of vegetables . Yeah , put it on my stuff yeah , yeah , definitely .
Speaker 2I recommend
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Speaker 2that too . Um , not even only for the micronutrient diversity , because it's really cool , like I don't know if you've ever heard this like eat the rainbow , and that's just like , have a diversity of colors . It makes it really simple for for younger people . So , just like when you're shopping or like on a weekly basis , just rotating a a different color in usually equates with a different micronutrient . And then also from like , going back to gut health , getting a variety of foods in gets you exposed to different prebiotic fibers , which is going to create more diversity in your gut , which is going to be is going to be good Elite . Now , micro toxins yeah , so toxins in general , like mold and mycotoxins , is definitely going to kill your test . So if you're in a moldy environment , a moldy shower or something like , definitely get that sorted . Um , but toxins , so pesticides , endocrine disruptors like what ?
Speaker 1what are pesticides ?
Speaker 2pesticides um , so glyphosate is the big one . What's that ? It's essentially Roundup , which is a bug killer .
Speaker 1So they spray on your food , isn't it they ?
Speaker 2spray it . Yeah , on the farms big farms they spray . It kills the bugs and therefore they are able to increase their yield and make more crops . But there's a lot of health benefit or health risks that come with eating foods like that . Um , because one and I was talking about this on the masterclass what the glyphosate does is it stops something called star , which is essentially how cholesterol gets into the mitochondria to then be produced into testosterone . So directly , like it's , it inhibits that . So you're going to , if your toxin load of glyphosate is high , right there your test is being killed . And then there's just a whole lot of other health issues that come along with glyphosate , like liver issues , gut issues that are going to hinder , like secondary things that are going to lower your test .
Speaker 2Um , so that's glyphosate , that's pesticides , even things like air pollution . Like if you live in a heavily densely populated area with like cars driving all around , like a downtown area , a thing that you could do is maybe even get a an air filter in your bedroom . You know you spend eight hours there a day . Put an air filter in your house is going to make the air cleaner , less exposure to toxins like that . That's kind of a niche one , but beneficial nonetheless . Plastics is probably the biggest one that we talk about .
Speaker 1You say like bring your own coffee cup to places . Yeah , yeah , the plastic film on the inside of coffee cups . Yeah , if you think about it .
Speaker 2You're boiling , boiling hot liquid into plastic . It's going to leach out and you're going to drink that because you think it's cardboard . Yeah , it's not on the inside . Yeah because I got to keep the coffee in there somehow ? Yeah , exactly , it would just crumble . Then you hot crumbly coffee in your hands , oh man then you said about undies as well , like everyone yeah , yeah .
Speaker 2So polyester is pretty big these days . Um , and that's made out of plastic . Uh , if you've ever seen a video of melting , melting polyester , it looks really weird cause it gets all goopy and it's just like you're melting plastic and that's what's in contact with your balls 24 , seven and so , like if you think you're going to work out , you're sweating , those chemicals are getting transferred into your balls and polyester . They've done studies on it . It's a contraceptive in men , so it's drastically impacting your sperm parameters .
Speaker 1I want to talk more about this infertile stuff right now . Just real quick on here yeah while we're here , because there is a lot of men that you know , I know of personally and that reach out and talk , that have been like that , have so much fucking shame around being infertile , like they feel so much shame around it and it's like holy shit , you know , I'm a fertile guy , like obviously I think there was studies , something that showed like by 2050 or something that we won't have any fresh sperm .
Speaker 2Yeah , it's getting pretty crazy . So we talk about testosterone decline , but equally as well sperm sperm counts infertility yeah , they're heavily correlated .
Speaker 2It's like if someone's infertile , their test is probably pretty low . Um , yeah , it's crazy , the , the downtrend and like when you get to zero , it's it's . It's really interesting because , like I don't know about you , but in the past like 10 years , the big thing is like we're overpopulated . We need to like do something about it , but like it's kind of this thing under the rug where it's like we're actually like on the precipice of possibly a population to like decline and species extinction , which is mind-blowing to one . Even think about that . Like we could possibly be facing issues like that , like when we're older . It's crazy .
Speaker 1Someone said to me they're like oh , do you know that japan's population is declining ? And I was like so is australia like australia's korea .
Speaker 2Korea is one of the worst right now , is it ?
Speaker 1yeah , no one having the babies out there , yeah , yeah , because because I mean . That place is interesting too because it's a . It's a fertility . Korea is one of the worst right now , is it yeah ?
Speaker 2No one having the babies out there . Yeah , yeah , cause , cause I mean that place is interesting too , cause it's a , it's a fertility thing . Yes , like the whole world is dealing with that , but then it's this like almost anti-men , uh , society .
Speaker 1In Korea .
Speaker 2Yeah , I don't know , I forget what the name of it was , but it's like this popular group that got pretty popular and they're essentially just like denouncing all contact with men and they're just like denouncing all men , like we don't need men in society , we are fine by ourselves , like we are independent women and all that . But Sad dude .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 2It's just not looking good .
Speaker 1It's just sad . Just all our studs out here just getting rejected . Yeah , all our studs out here just getting rejected . He's our greatest fear , just living on a country-size level right now . Yeah , but no , bro , that's crazy . So what else then ? In regards to like because you're talking about the plastics and how they are everywhere , it's like polyester is like most clothes , basically , if anything is not cotton or linen , it's like plastic is shit and you're just absorbing that straight through your skin . But the the worst part is when you're sweating and working out , because that's where everyone's got skins and the under armor and all that stuff . Yeah , because that's all just polyester and that's hugging your nuts , oh yeah tight , very tight , and that's making it so .
Speaker 2That's another thing . Like the tighter , usually , the more heat is produced and our balls don't like heat . So that's why they sit out of our body , because they need to be a little bit cooler to function optimally . So , like we're having these tight underwear , that's like pushing them up , essentially bringing it closer to our body , so they're warming a little bit and higher temperature temperatures with sperm they don't really mix . So that's another thing that we're , that we're doing yeah , I'm feeling I get like .
Speaker 1I'm thinking about my balls being like pushed up and in and it's like making me feel physically uncomfortable , I feel them happening .
Speaker 2It's happening to me right now .
Speaker 1Yeah like , yeah , it's uncomfortable .
Speaker 2Yeah again like let them out so like the underwear that we wear . And then also we're sitting all day , so like they're just plopped right up there warm in between our legs . So like the sedentary lifestyle is really bad for fertility as well , because we're just sitting and heating our bowl .
Speaker 1That's why I really understand you in regards to like the high-T lifestyle plastic coffee cups , plastic Tupperware , not having enough micronutrients , like all of those things are just contributing . What about stress ?
Speaker 2I want to hear , like your perception on stress . Yeah , stress is a big one Because I want to know about what to do after .
Speaker 2Yeah , cortisol and testosterone are very inversely correlated . So people who are just like jacking their cortisol up and super stressed out they're most likely going to have lower testosterone . That's where there's an interesting argument as well , like it's kind of Goldilocks . Right , if you're the dude in the basement , you don't have any stress , there's no need for testosterone . But you're a guy who's working out seven times a week , business deals , a lot of mental stress , tons of women that are stressful that's not good either . So it's kind of like for testosterone . It's kind of like this goldie you can call it like maybe the goldilocks hormone . That's the first time I've used that , but yeah , it's kind of that . In terms of stress , you need to find the balance of the right amount of stress , because training is stress , like going into the sauna doing a cold plunge .
Speaker 1That's stress yeah , because a lot of us wear high sup .
Speaker 2What I've looked at with supplements , what I've looked into is , I'm like basically everything that increases your testosterone is just decreasing your stress yeah , so tonkat ali is something that does that like kind of ashwagandha as well , um reduce the stress , reduce cortisol , and so it can support the hormones and what makes sense to me as a guy who's like crushing it in business and dealing with the stress .
Speaker 1It's like every time he overcomes something he's going to get a test boost oh , yeah , yeah , no , that's .
Speaker 2That's a good tangent as well , like the correlation between test increasing and winning and test decreasing and losing . So again , like status , when we're winning test bumps , test bumps , we're getting dopamine , um . And then also being around , this one's really cool too . Like being around women you perceive as attractive test boost , all these like cool , like this is the shit that I nerd out about , like the cool , like little societal things like you wouldn't think about . But it makes so much sense because , yeah , like , if you're around attractive women , you're gonna want to like pursue them , and testosterone helps with that . So your body's like , here you go , just gives you a little injection , natural injection , get after it , bro just plug into everyone's mind
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Speaker 2.
Speaker 1As soon as you say a guy who's around a lot of hot chicks , usually think of like some playboy dude with heaps of hot chicks and that's test envy again .
Speaker 2Yeah I like this idea of test envy yeah it's test envy .
Speaker 1It's like , look at this guy with all these high tests . He's just showing his high test because , like well , he's around beautiful women that even you find attractive . You're like fuck , he's around all these attractive women . Immediately , as a guy , you just go oh , I want be like that guy . Oh , I'd love to have that attention and that approval , like immediately , regardless if you're young or old . It's like that'd be nice . You know what I mean . Even if you're in a locked in relationship with someone that you love and you care about , you're like stud . Like that'd be nice .
Speaker 1They're honeys , you know what I mean , and like a game of like who can showcase ?
Speaker 2the most . It's like peacocking around with , yeah , their test levels , but I also think it's kind of fun .
Speaker 1You know what I mean , like that whole game , because that's what we do in sports . Yeah , I mean you play sports , so you know what it's like . I mean you when you win , when you lose , and you're going back and forth . You're consistently competing , like in tests as well . In regards , in regards to yeah , alpha dogging .
Speaker 2Oh , that'd be crazy to see , just like if they would be able to do a study of like both teams and just continually measure their testosterone levels and just see , like you know , this team's t is higher and they're starting to come back and they're starting to like score , score points and shit . Yeah , and just like , see the talk to some doctors and do it . Bro , yeah , we're gonna make this study happen . Seriously , make a study .
Speaker 1The test envy study that . Yeah , see , if test envy is real . Yeah , well , it is real , we know it's real but to see in terms of how it works behaviorally in like a like , even in a short and low kind of period , would be fascinating . Yeah , super cool to figure out . So , yeah , what are some to-dos ?
Speaker 2to-dos , um , so like for stress , managed stress , like I gave a master class and I was kind of condescending not condescending , but like I was just like you know , if you're doing all this shit , just chill , chill bro , like if you're training seven times a week , if you're fasting , um like 36 hour fast every week or like twice a week , and then you're using hella stimulants , like just chill , like chill out a little bit . Um , that's on the stress side . We talked about nutrition and we talked about training . Um , toxins , so like we talked about avoiding toxins . But you can also deep like detox the toxins , so like sauna , sweating , things like that are going to be really good , um , and then I guess we can get into supplements if you want yeah , bro , of course .
Speaker 1Okay , tell me what to tell me what to take .
Speaker 2Runner yeah , um yeah , there's , so there's a bunch of good ones . It depends on , you know , it always depends , that's my thing depends on , like , what you're dealing with or what , what outcome you want . My favorites are tonkat le , so I really like that one . You have to make sure , though , that it's standardized to the active ingredient . How do you check ? Check that , so , like you can just look on the bottle ? Um , it would say it's standardized to .
Speaker 1For tonkat , it's like two percent , ten percent , uricominone , okay so like on the actual thing it was on the bottle two or ten percent somewhere yeah they would .
Speaker 2They would show what if it is standardized , they would more than likely share that because they know , if they don't share it , the people that know it's they're not going to even fuck with it , um .
Speaker 2So that's usually something that I have to look for , like what this , what's the standardization , what's the percentage ? Um , that type of stuff . There might be some brands that don't , but you can literally just ask them , ask for their coa , their certificate of analysis , to see , like one that what they say is in there is actually in there . Um , and usually if they don't provide a coa , you know that's a red flag for me . What is the coa ? A certificate of analysis ? Essentially like showing like the purity . So like there's 200 milligrams of tonkat , they show that , so that 200 milligrams on the test um , and then the like impurities . So if there's heavy metals , um , like arsenic , lead , uh , mold or anything like that , they test for that .
Speaker 2So if you just email the companies , they'll just send it to to the good ones will send it to you the ones that I'm sketched out about . They'll either say no or they'll give you some reason as to why not , like we don't test that , or whatever , and usually that for me is like a red flag . Your supplement's not high quality . I'm not going to get the result that I want from it and I'm not going to .
Speaker 1I'm'm not gonna purchase it makes sense , so hit me up . We got tonkat ali tonkat .
Speaker 2Um tribulus is cool , so that's another one that needs to be standardized . I forget , like maybe it's I forget the actual name , but something saponins , I think that's the active one . Um good for dht , like we talked about .
Speaker 1It'll help help boost that my friend took tribulus because he got his blood tested and like 10 weeks later got it tested again and it like went up by like 70% or something . Yeah , and he was like double dosing it daily , but it went up like big time .
Speaker 2Yeah , it'd be interesting to see what else he was doing as well , or if it was just tribulus . He got more locked in .
Speaker 1Yeah , for sure , like he was meditating more and he was just in general . He was more and he's just in general , he's just locked in .
Speaker 2My buddy glenn shout out yeah , and yeah , his test just went through the roof . Yeah , that makes sense . So tonka tribulus ? Um , let's see , I like shilajit , so shilajit's another one . Shit's legit . Yeah , tis um tastes legit too . Yeah , it's not not the nicest thing , but that's like the high tea lifestyle , bro , you gotta challenge yourself . Just tastes like shit for my test , for my test we should have .
Speaker 1We should have had to ate some on on live just as to who can do the most alpha take the biggest glove , the most amount of shilajit , just start chewing it and not have a facial reaction . You just have to go this and just not react , because I brought mine .
Speaker 2Huh , I should have brought mine .
Speaker 1We can do it later . It is nasty . Yeah , we'll do it somewhere . Who can have the biggest ? I ? I really write right , shilajit , I think it's yeah yeah , shilajit's great bunch of minerals .
Speaker 2Um fulvic acid , humic acid , really good for you . Um helps increase luteinizing hormone if you need it to luteinizing hormone does like what is it ?
Speaker 1tells your balls to make testosterone so , oh , that's how you get back on the blood test as well .
Speaker 2You see , luteinizing yeah , lh and fsh . Lh is more on the hormone side or testosterone side . Yeah , um , fedoja aggressus seems to work . I'm not a big fan of that . Fedoja aggressus , yeah , um , another herb , um , human men kind of made it . Popular studies show that you know it can . It can boost us , but there's like some worry around it of also creating toxicity , so I'm not usually a fan of it . I don't really , I don't really use that . About fenugreek seed fenugreek , yeah , so that was , that was the one I was trying to think of . Fenugreek super cool , 10 , 20 increase in in total tests . Um , I'm taking a product that has fenugreek in it right now , which is cool . That one's cool . There's pine pollen , which is like there's less research around that , but that one's kind of interesting . They say that it has phytoandrogens . So we hear about phytoestrogens which are in like soy , which , like , make it more estrogenic , make estrogen levels increase . So like phytoandrogens which are in like soy , which , like , make it more estrogenic , uh , make estrogen levels increase so like phytoandrogens .
Speaker 2That sounds pretty sick , right . So like see how that works . Um that one's less like studied and less like . I can tell you 100 , it works . Have you seen ? It worked out with the people that you've uh , I haven't really used it with other people . I'm testing it on myself right now first , and I feel like a fucking beast right now , so doing a lot of things , but I think that is contributing .
Speaker 1What else ?
Speaker 2Real quickly , just hit me off . Yeah , so pine pollen . There's this . I'm actually taking a test booster product but it's got all really good things that I like , like Tomcat . What's the product ? It's really good things that I like , like tonkat . What's the product ? It's notable , notable alpha . It's this guy on twitter . His handle is newt bro . He's fucking ridiculous . Like . He's smart as fuck and knows the shit . I think he's , uh , he's in cahoots with based based supplements . If you've heard of that brand , um , him , noah ryan . I learned a lot from those guys . They're they're fucking cool . What they share on twitter is ridiculous . So that product it's got ginger , it's got tonkat , it's got fenugreek extract . I think it has zinc . Might not have zinc vitamin d yeah , so zinc vitamin d . Those are going to be important to make sure that your stores are full um , and then you supplement them yeah , so again blood test .
Speaker 1What , um ? What else is that it were you taking ?
Exploring Combat Sports for Masculinity
Speaker 2I was taking that . I was taking pine pollen , uh magnesium before bed and shows it sometimes like pre-workout , yeah , so I'm not really taking that much , yeah , and then just it lifestyle .
Speaker 1Yes to making sure you're not doing the thing . Yeah , like trying to do as much as I can getting sunlight sunlight , walking like um breaks .
Speaker 2Um , I'm starting up muay thais pretty soon . I got the like shin guards got to get in there . Just the timing hasn't worked out yet , but that's why is that ?
Speaker 1is that for like a test reason ? Something fun uh it's a lot .
Speaker 2So like , yeah , combat sports , you know you think you're fighting . Um , I get a lot of that from competing just in sports , like I , like I told you a while ago , like I , the beast , inner beast , comes out , I'm a fucking dog , um , and then yeah , just getting more of that , like really getting in contact with that inner beast and kind of letting it out , um one for that reason , um , it's just always been something I've wanted to do , like some type of fighting . I've actually never been in a fight myself , so like getting into one would be cool .
Speaker 1Speaking of that , one of my friends was like , hey , let's like go get some boxing gloves and like go play around in the ring . I was like , yeah , I thought we're just gonna like hit some shit , take some photos , get some video content , because we had like content guy there . I was like , yeah , I thought we were just going to like hit some shit , take some photos , get some video content , because we had like content guy there and he just started . Then we got in there and we were just fighting .
Speaker 2Yeah , and we walked in and he's like right , let's go , bro , let's go .
Speaker 1Ah , I'm pumped . I was like I'm going couple of times where I could have like went over and hit in to get a punch , and he was like I was trying to like get you to punch me so that I could punch you .
Speaker 2So then you were like in there .
Speaker 1Yeah , dude , next minute I was waiting . I was like nah , I couldn't . He just punched me in the face Like just straight up with boxing glove , just went bang . We had . Oh , fuck you . Like it was on yeah , and then we're just punching each other in the face for like an hour Dude , it was just nonstop . And I talked to one of my friends who fought and he's like you weren't wearing a mouth guard .
Speaker 1He's like dude , what are you doing , not wearing a mouth guard ? I was like , yeah , I'm bleeding in the inside of my mouth like everywhere , like I got punched in the other hard in the gut . So we started getting in there . We're getting like , oh , we're gonna hold back because we're starting to get like , yeah , you get a bit much at the moment .
Speaker 2Yeah , you start to see him as like your mortal enemy . It's like wait , that's my homie . What are we doing you ?
Speaker 1kind of shut off that it's your homie and he's just like ah , this thing if I don't hit it hard , it's gonna hurt me and it's like this weird sort of thing that come in and we're just like punching each other . So there's a few boxing classes , but , dude , it is like when you do he's getting it . So I was like this is crazy and it makes you really feel like man , uh , like fighting someone and punching someone in the face is so much more like just real than like what you think it is yeah , yeah , yeah .
Speaker 1And knowing that , like you know you can get hit like decently hard without , uh , you know , faltering it's like we'll give we'll give some pretty decent jabs like to the face . We're getting like bang bangs in there and , um , yeah , I was like , oh , this isn't that bad . Like obviously , if I , if I full-on hit someone , like like in in the situation with the gloves that we had on , like it is , is just going to like knock someone out , like when you go for that hard . But I feel like when you're trying to hit that hard and you're not like a pro boxer , like there's always like a swing , you can see it more . You can go oh shit , I need to like put my guard up or something . Like it's interesting how your body can like works in a boxing setting like that . It blew my brain , ken . Like works in a the boxing setting like that .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah . What is it ? Mike Tyson says everyone has a plan until you get hit in the face .
Speaker 1hit square in the face Until you get punched straight in the face , bro , but I loved it . It was really exhilarating , bro . So , yeah , I feel like I would like it for you . Oh , yeah , it is . It's super masculine . You're like this is , this is elite
Toxic Masculinity and Low Testosterone
Speaker 1.
Speaker 1But even speaking on that , I was watching a post soul brought put up and I was looking at this study that he put out and the study was all around . There's a social behavioral study that they did for , basically quote-unquote , nice guys and I said that nice guys who have men who have higher testosterone , are less likely to fake , yes , and fake please , other people and men that have low testosterone have a way higher chance of over pleasing and fake pleasing people . Crazy with the people , pleases . Because what I learned because I like read most of the study , I flicked through it was reading how they actually did it . I know you're talking're talking about yeah , right , yeah , but what they did was they like had a bunch of different groups of people that they knew had higher and lower test and they watched them in social situations and they had like people . I'm pretty sure it was like they had . They put people in that they didn't , that the participants weren't aware of .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 1Where they basically had to say no , yes , and all the guys with the higher test like declined and did not fake please , or over please , and all the guys with lower tests did , yeah , yeah super cool .
Speaker 2It's like a where both of our worlds meet , like the I think I commented it .
Speaker 1It's like nice guys equal low test you have ever seen your comment on the post ?
Speaker 2yeah , yeah , now that's like a generalization , right . Of course , um , there's traumas that come in that make people act the way they do , but talking in trends and correlations , like I think that's a pretty strong correlation , yeah people pleases .
Speaker 1Yeah , so nice guys . Yes , men , people pleases . They overdo it for someone , like always doing everything for everyone else . I'm stressed out , I'm overwhelmed because I've put all this shit on my plate because I don't know how to empower other . People say no , take leadership or responsibility . Low test , low test . How embarrassing bro . It's a low test , low test lifestyle , just people pleasing . So I think about myself being a people pleasing , doing that .
Speaker 2I'm like dude , that's embarrassing dude yeah , yeah , I mean same for me . Like I've had tendencies like that in the past four or five years ago . I correlate that pretty heavily , like my test was low as shit and yeah , I didn't even know who I was and I just like people , please the shit out of everyone else makes me want to grow a beard bro yeah , just like live in the wilderness and just do all the masculine things but no , I feel that man and like it , um , it's .
Speaker 1It just comes back to the high tea lifestyle , but where it's like , okay , the test envy . What I know is what you would see is like envy that I would know , between men who are around strong leaders who have high tests , and men that don't . Was they would see men who are leaders , who can power other people , have challenging conversations , you know , lean into , not worrying other people's emotions and , you know , take on proper responsibility and open up vulnerably because they're comfortable and have the confidence to do so . I feel like getting vulnerable as a man is actually a way of expressing your boundaries and showing your power and strength , because you're not afraid of feeling weak . And it's like , if you're afraid of feeling weak , that's pleasing other people , that's fake pleasing . And then there's you wearing a mask . So that is where the men's work and everything meet in terms of the masks that you're wearing and where you're at . It's all just symptoms of lower test ?
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , it's really interesting , you know , lower test ? Yeah , yeah , it's , it's really interesting . Um , yeah , the vulnerability thing for me yeah , to me , like you said , it's like a sign of strength , because you don't care what other people think . You're at ease with yourself enough that you can share a weakness . You can share a vulnerability , something , an area that you might not be that great at or really good at , yeah , but you're okay with that , you're at peace with yourself . So you do it like the . And that's where , like the toxic masculinity and that whole thing of like people being , um , like they , ultra unvulnerable , like like they don't share anything low test Dude toxic masculinity Is low test Is low test .
Speaker 2I remember I used to talk about this a lot .
Speaker 1Did you ?
Speaker 2Toxic masculinity is not a high test problem . It's a low test problem .
Speaker 1Because they're insecure .
Speaker 2Because they don't have confidence in themselves , because they have low test . Do you think that ?
Speaker 1the toxic masculinity in regards to that is actually more of a case of men becoming more feminine .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 1I think there's . What do you mean Like in regards to Like , when you said toxic masculinity is , you were saying it was like the shut-off person , right yeah , in your definition .
Speaker 2Yeah , that's like an archetype within it . Yeah .
Speaker 1An archetype . Is there any others that are on top of your mind ? That ?
Speaker 2described . Yeah , it's like the super like , yeah , the super passive . Um , just people walk over them , people walk all over them . Yeah , kind of like a fem boy .
Speaker 1Yeah , well , there you go . It's like feminine , because the I was reading this in a book this morning by allison armstrong called understanding women .
Speaker 1I was like that's a great book to get men to buy . But she wrote a book called understanding men and development men . She spent 15 years understanding men and their behaviors and how they worked , and I've just had her books on repeat . If I wake up in the middle of night , I just put her books on and listen to them , like , oh , this is so good , and then I just like fall asleep and then wake up and usually put them on again and in the book , understanding women is so fantastic .
Speaker 1What she was saying is that women have this thing where they always need to please their man . Right ? It's just ingrained in their dna . It's like , if the man is at home , regardless of where she is , it's like the king's in the castle , the protector and the provider is here , the hunter is here , in here , and I need to please him , and it's encoded in her dna . She can't not have this feeling , so his emotions directly reflect back to her and then she feels them right now . The thing is is with women , they can feel hundreds of different emotions all the time . I like them to be like oh my God , I feel so sad for you that this thing happened , but I'm really excited for this person . This happened . That's amazing .
Speaker 1And then , oh , my God , that thing's the worst thing ever . I feel that so much . So they're fluid . It's not like they're so adaptable . When , men , if we're pissed off or grumpy , we're grumpy , that's it the whole day . It's like oh , I can't figure out why I'm fucking grumpy and I'll be grumpy all day . And then when we're happy and excited , we're like oh , let's go do some shit , I'm excited , let's keep it going , and you , just for the whole day , she's like this is great , let's do this , and then let's do this and let's do this . Like it's every man listening , uh-huh , yep , that pretty much makes sense , but women , it's not really there , because it's just adaptability and fluidity .
Speaker 2So when it comes to the femboys of when , sorry , there's no like hate towards any of us .
Speaker 1It's nothing but love , because I've been in femboying areas my life too .
Speaker 2It comes and goes right Same .
Speaker 1And it sucks . But when you're in that , we need help to get out of that right . That's why I have a lot of empathy around it . But the over-pleasing that we do , the passiveness that we have and the ability to assert our own will in a setting or surrender , forgive and let go and just remain strong , it's just symptoms . If we can't do that , I'll flow test . Yeah , Is that correct ?
Speaker 2Yeah , I mean what you laid out makes sense . Like the passiveness and the lack of drive and motivation kind of correlates with the scenario that you created with like the woman who's like there to please Right , yeah , it's just he's . Those guys are more stuck in that of like who do I need to please rather than I need to go out and like create something and like use that . Yeah , it's low test because they don't have the testosterone for the drive and motivation to go out and do things , so their low test makes them more , more passive and more like wanting someone else to come do it for them yeah , I , I relate to that .
Speaker 1It's like , okay , you know , you give me something . You know , I mean I want someone to give to me . But it makes a lot of sense because what I do in , like in my community , and set the standard , we have this process called purpose process , that it used to be called overcome the chaos , and it was like this big series of basically everything that I ever learned . I try to condense it to as short as much stuff as I could and it was an eight module program . It took some people 10 months to finish . It's only eight one hour videos , right , but the reflection is so deep in there , like it's so deep in the exercises you know takes like a couple hours because you're a lot of introspection . I've been able to like chop that , put it into a process , the purpose process , which is all just ai enhanced . So you just copy and paste a formula into ai . It asks you questions one at a time and then it spits you out something absolutely brilliant , right .
Speaker 1But the guys who go through and finish it really by the last module , which is the most important last module in there , like you , will know your purpose . You understand what it is and just a caveat to that . The thing is is sometimes when people learn their purpose , there's a curse , because they understand their purpose and they don't live it . The depression anxiety gets worse because now they know what it is and they're aware that they're not living it and that just gets like darker and darker and darker . Some guys finish the community and they know what their purpose is and they're just like , yeah , this is it . They get pumped or they finish up or whatever it is , and then they don't stay accountable and they don't stay true and you just you can kind of see them in their energy going like , oh and shame's kicking in because they're not living it , because they know what it is , and it's like testosterone is dropping .
Speaker 2Yeah right , and they're too low test to go out and do something about it and they're too low test .
Speaker 1But the guys who are crushing which is high way , higher percentage than goes on who have finished like the last module of the purpose process or overcome the chaos , is like once they've had the moment at the end of the last module , because it's a visualisation exercise , where you put everything in together and you do it on both of them and you visualise it is like you're making this make sense . They get such a big win out of it because they're like , oh my God , I know what this is .
Speaker 2It's like the biggest win that a man could have .
Speaker 1Finding their purpose . I'm like they're getting a test surge , yeah , and that's why . And then what happens is they get this wave of test and then they got to write it . And if they don't write it out , like that's when stuff starts to go back down and then you just consistently feel like you're jamming a lawnmower let's go hell yeah yeah , it makes like it makes so much sense though .
Speaker 1Yeah , I can regards to this , because I'm even John Gray talked about I'm not sure what study it was done in , but he said like men's testosterone when they watch a sports game and their team wins . Yeah , you have studies around that nothing I haven't .
Speaker 2I'm sure they're . I'm winning there .
Speaker 1Yeah , yeah about winning , yeah it's like was winning his members watch that team sports when they go yeah , t goes up , then when they're down , their , their t goes down yeah , good stuff , it's my crazy yeah way better .
Speaker 2This , this is way better than the idea that we had last time with the dick sock run .
Speaker 1Way better , way better stuff we're gonna make a product you guys it's dropping tomorrow , and it's a dick sock made out of tribulus , that's what it was . I completely forgot what it was , yeah tribulus and tonka ali dick sock before you
Boosting Testosterone and Male Fertility
Speaker 1go to bed . So your testosterone's through the roof , could you imagine , because I know there's like cold therapy around like your balls . Right , yeah , does that work ?
Speaker 2is that legit ? Um , yeah , it's like icing your balls . Anecdotal evidence of like feeling like you're higher t . But I think also the more of the science is based on fertility around that like icing your balls is going to increase is going to help fertility .
Speaker 1Yeah , all right , tell me more about fertility , then , and stuff this , because I want to help people become more fertile as men and it's like we know everything that you said around the test is what's going to prevent them not getting enough sunlight as well , included not getting micronutrients . The plastics touching receipts . You know cans . You know some cans have plastics in them . Whatever it is all that eating food out of anything that's plastic . What I want to know more about , like how to become more fertile , isn't it ?
Speaker 2Yeah , I mean a lot of it is that it's just like a lot of the stuff that we've talked about . Maybe a caveat or something . A different direction we can go is varicoceles . Do you know what that is ?
Speaker 1No .
Speaker 2Do you know what PCOS is ? Yes , I love that PCOS . Around 7% to 10 of child a child bearing age women have it . Pcos is like you got shit on your ovaries . Yeah , polycystic ovarian syndrome , varicose seals 15 of men have them varicose seals is what pcos is , but on your ball sack no , no , I just compare the two , because people know what pcos is , and seven to ten percent have it .
Speaker 2People don't know what varicose seals is , and 15 have it . Okay , and varicose seals is male , is male . Yeah , it's essentially like the the veins that go into your balls get all wrapped up and it impairs fertility and also testosterone levels and how do ? We fix them . Varicose seals . Yeah , it's , it's tough , like there's not really any holistic fix that you could do .
Speaker 1It's surgery , um , and then there's another procedure , but it's yeah , it's pretty invasive because I heard , because I went , because I thought I had cancer on my nuts one stage me too and this guy just went in and he's like I'm not supposed to tell you this . He's an ultrasound . He's like I'm not allowed to tell you this , but , bro , you just got veins as fuck . So I think I have like the varicoceles yeah , like whatever , it's just you got heaps of veins that like surround like wherever it is , and he's like .
Speaker 2But basically you'd be fine unless they're like hurting yeah , that's like the symptoms hurting , pain in the scrotum . Um , yeah , you would see on a blood test higher luteinizing hormone , which you talked about , yeah , but low to suboptimal test . You could probably still have high tests . But your body is pushing harder because , like there's a something going on at the balls . So the pituitary gland is just continually telling like , hey , like we need more tests , we need more tests . So it's sending it more and more lh . So that's why that goes high .
Speaker 1But the balls there's something going on , so it's not producing as much as as the the rest of the body wants okay , two things I want to talk about because we're getting close to wrapping up time so I wanted to kind of like go hard on these . One is like the studies around not masturbating and high test and your perception on that , because I have a perception on it and I think it's not masturbating , it's the best thing ever . And second , like what was the point when it pissed you off enough , where you're like fuck man , I'm working on building my test up yeah , so the the masturbation thing .
Speaker 2We can come back to the high t lifestyle . Uh , let's compare a guy who goes out and like , pursues women in real life compared to the man who's in his basement and all he has to do is take out his phone and then he's reproducing , essentially , get on that porn hub . Yeah , he gets on porn hub and he just scrolls for two seconds and then he's done . Um , lifestyle wise , there's not a lot of signaling for testosterone in that scenario .
Speaker 2So that's the lifestyle side of things um , that's like coming back to what we've been talking about , to chase the woman you're out .
Speaker 1You got to be having .
Speaker 2Yeah , you need you need testosterone to me to get her . You don't need it to scroll on your phone , um . And then , yeah , there's a study that they did where they essentially did semen retention for I think a week or two weeks and it showed that on the seventh day it peaked up like 140% Um , so that I think is worthwhile . It did like come back down . So it was weird . Like the seventh day it jacked up and then after that it came down . I don't know if there's anything special about the seventh day or whatever , um , but I think just from a like anecdotal as well and just like people I talk to , there's a lot of just like you feel way more masculine and like more driving motivation when you're not ejaculating like consistently or like every two days . I even know that's noticed that in myself . Like I feel way more locked in my business does better , I feel . I just feel more high test when I'm not consistently masturbating yeah , I feel big time like I believe
Life Transformation Through Health and Fitness
Speaker 2in .
Speaker 1It was like I quit masturbating like five years ago . Yeah , because I wanted to deal with the frustration of not having enough money , not having the woman that I want , not having the things that I have in my life and deal with like , oh my God , but I've got all this energy so that I go out and get it . Excuse me . And the other one was , and what I know is yeah , what pissed you off enough , like what got you to the point where you're like I'm so pissed that I want to go work on this ?
Speaker 2or upset down whatever . Yeah , work on this or upset down whatever , though . Yeah , uh , for me it was back when I worked as an engineer . So I lived in a one-bedroom apartment . I had like very few real conversations with people . My friend didn't really have friends , I was lonely , um , that whole environment , just like that's . That was essentially , uh , my rock bottom . Just being there and just like being in that apartment and being like fuck , like is this really what my life is ? And just feeling so down about that , like what the fuck like , why am I doing this ? So that was kind of the spark that started everything for me .
Speaker 2I got really into fitness , got much more into like holistic health , and then that whole pathway kind of led me to this Um , so it didn't start with testosterone , it started with just like health and fitness and like purpose and all these things , and that has kind of led me to this , and now I have like I'm more educated around health in general and I have the bandwidth to be able to go deep on things like this Um , and so , yeah , now I see it . Now I see it as like one of the most important things for men , um , because , again , coming back to the fertility crash that we could probably possibly experience , like that's a big problem that we could possibly face and I don't know . I want to do my help to you know , do what I can to maybe not have to experience that jacked fertile , high test , high status , successful stud .
Speaker 1Let's go bro for everyone who's listening . Where can they find you ?
Speaker 2yeah , so instagram is the easiest place . My name mark holman , h-o-l-m-m-a-n , and just health after that .
Speaker 1So Mark Holman Health on Instagram Dude thanks so much for coming on the show and it's been so fucking awesome connecting with you the last couple of weeks , bro . It's been legit Sick . Big love , bro , same .
Speaker 2Oh , let's go .