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Stop believing the lie that menâs work is just guys crying in a circle. This video breaks down what really happens inside The Next Level retreat and how a strong container turns judgement and isolation into brotherhood and grounded strength.
Youâll see how key exercises and emotional releases let men face anger, grief and shame without numbing or exploding, and how that makes them safer, more powerful leaders at home and in the world.
If youâve ever wondered what a real menâs retreat is like, this is your look behind the curtain.
00:00:00 Post-retreat banter, jokes & setup
00:01:16 First impressions of The Next Level weekend
00:02:26 From judgement & comparison to brotherhood
00:03:42 Corey on being judged as a facilitator
00:05:18 Owning projections, defenses & the âreal youâ
00:08:52 SPACE JUMP: healing conversations with dad/others
00:10:36 Vicarious healing: when one man works, all men heal
00:12:12 Designing the emotional rollercoaster of the retreat
00:12:53 Heist simulation: exposing patterns under pressure
00:14:31 Holding space during the deepest releases
00:16:13 BRAG CIRCLE: claiming king energy
00:18:05 Integrating shadow, power & safety
00:24:08 Tools for regulation, breath & clear decisions
00:27:35 Final takeaways from each facilitator
00:31:11 Closing reflections, hugs & wrap up
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SPEAKER_02:How's it boys?
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SPEAKER_02:So yeah, we'll just uh just we'll just chat a couple of points.
SPEAKER_01:Um four guys sitting here with our legs spread on camera. Yeah, the camera's right. Perfect angle. It's a good angle. Yeah. See your mangoes. So definitely is kneecaps.
SPEAKER_03:We're not gonna cover anything intellectual, it's just gonna be bad for the four dudes.
SPEAKER_01:I'm trying to wait for this to write things so I can be like four dudes that have worked their ass off all weekend long. Yeah. And want to work more now. Now they're gonna wrap it up and work a little bit more, do a little promotion, make the world a better place. That's what we're trying to definitely here to do. Trying to make the world a better place. All right, let's say we all wear our DJI mics with little fuzzy things on step.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Um I'd like to start off, boys. What's uh just thoughts, general thought on the weekend and uh kind of takeaway for yourself?
SPEAKER_00:I'm starting. Uh my thoughts of the weekend. Well, this is my first next level, um, as it was yours or my first next level. Yeah, right. So I was I'm blown away. I'm blown away. I uh I've seen men cry, I've seen men laugh, I've seen men scream, I've seen men sob, I've seen men shake. A lot of hugging. A lot of hugging, a lot of hugging, a lot of breakthroughs. Uh my thoughts are just it was beautiful, and I'm grateful to have been a part of it. And um I'm keen to hear from the men in a week and a fortnight and a month, and to see how they're doing. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:What about you? Yeah, you know, what I love, and I see this so often when men to get together and do their work, is like we talked about the very first night. You guys are judging each other, measuring each other, projecting onto each other. You guys gonna be able to work with that?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's fine.
SPEAKER_01:I'll start over. You know, the thing like we talked about Friday night when the guys first got here and we we we shared it with them. You guys are already measuring each other, you know, thinking about, you know, who's here, who's there, who you gonna like, projecting. And then by the time they leave here, two and a half days later, they're they're like they've been best friends since childhood. Just they they love each other. And you know, even the guys that are the most difficult to get close to and and to like and love, everybody still loves them anyway. And I love that about men's work. And and and you know, you guys set the container up beautifully for them to do that kind of deep work, that they went quickly from looking around going, why did I come here? Who are these guys? What are they about, to just loving each other to death. And and that's why I love men's work, and you guys did that beautifully.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, thank you. I think a part of the medicine that I think is really good is that brotherhood is the medicine. And when you're put to war over a weekend through practices and exercises and facing things that may perceive as scary, and then also doing things that are really fun when you're there's a moment where, you know, for me, I used to really struggle with uh you know expressing myself from not from a performative. Really? Yeah, I'd never guess that about you. I would feel resistance to it, and I'd try my best to do it, and I and I would feel um judgment from other people. I thought it was really interesting on the first night with a bunch of the guys being like, Corey, we judge and project the shit on you. And um like just being like in that from the facilitator role and just you know holding it and having the guys being able to uh uh talk about that without any without having to hold back. Yeah. One thing was really like freeing for me, but also for the guys to give me that feedback and say that was able to sort of flatten any sort of hierarchy and enabled us to bond and just that sense of belonging and and and fitting in with guys is where a lot of I feel like that their breakthroughs uh come from. And you know, out in the out in the out in the real world when you're not like in the next level retreat, you know, it's that it's that acceptance and it's it's that that can be you know the strongest part of growth.
SPEAKER_01:And here's an irony, and I love this about men's work as well. The ability to say out loud, I judge you, I judge you to be, I judge you to be, and project whatever it is, allows us to move past those judgments and then truly begin to see somebody for who they really are. And you know, we all have neuroses, we all have defense mechanisms, we all have behavioral patterns, both to keep people at distance, usually subconsciously, unconscious, and the patterns we have to try to get people to like us and accept us. And both of those things actually neither are the real us. And once we can kind of comment and look at those things, then we can just show up as the real us. And that's when that's when the the deep connection and love and caring really rises to the top.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. I think another moment that sticks out for me was in the very beginning when one man had the opportunity to lead with vulnerability and he did, and he just started crying right in the beginning. I feel like that is a similar, it just gave everyone so much more.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah, we had the guys crying in the first hour. Oh yeah, we're on the right track. They're already trying.
SPEAKER_03:You're doing good. But yeah, that that just like opens the space with such vulnerability and openness, so then everyone can also be like, oh, okay, like that's cool, that's safe to do it. And I think that just bonds everyone and just gets everyone to that point where they can like, all right, let's do it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And have tears with dignity too. Like, you know, it's not like we're sitting down, like, you know, one thing that got a lot of guys have an objection to is coming to retreats is like, oh, I don't want to go there and just like cry all the guys. It's like, no, well, of course there's gonna be tears and we're doing emotional work and stuff. And there's gonna be tears of joy, tears of happiness, tears of sadness, or whatever it is. But it's like a lot of the guys learn to hold dignity because they bottle things up so much in their life and they stick it under the rug, and they never have a chance to talk about it or express it, especially in front of their partners or people that they love and and they care about. So I think it's like really healthy to have a have a space where it's like, okay, you can you can do this, but you know, you keep your head up and you stay strong and you don't hide yourself from just what you're feeling in a moment.
SPEAKER_01:Well, and the thing I love about men's work, you know, we have these myths in our society and culture, and you know, probably perpetrated by women and probably not vicious, but they go, oh, men just don't feel, men don't express their feelings, men don't talk about what's you know what they're feeling. And I've been working with men for, you know, 35, 40 years. Yeah, they do. If you give men a safe place where they feel safe, not judged, they'll talk about what's real. They'll get down to they'll they'll talk about their their wounds from childhood, they'll talk about their pains, they'll talk about their relationship frustrations. And it's not just whining or complaining, it's truly depth of of humanity, the depth of of what they're experiencing. And when when we can give men safe places to do that, they get real, then they can take that back to the world, back to their partners, back to their children, back to their friends, and that and that they're real, they're who they are, they're not hiding anything. They take the masks off. And that makes men both safer and more powerful and and more approachable and more real. So, and I saw that so much here, you know, with with with the environment that that was created here. Men got real fast. And once men get real, you you can't help but love them. You can't just help but go, you know, that guy may be kind of a nerd, he may be kind of geeky, he may talk too much, he may be irritating, and I really still love him. And that's beautiful. I love it when you just get past that surface stuff and get down to the real person. Makes all the difference.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Yeah. I'd be curious to know what you guys um like your like favorite moment from favorite exercise and and why you thought it was important to the to the group in the next level.
SPEAKER_03:What came up for me immediately was the break the release that I had with uh Space Jump. I even framed it up as you framed it up, but I brought in something like um like what happened at T Gon with um fathers and sons talking and the father pouring into the sun. We had a similar experience here where it just cracked me open. Um and I had a really amazing experience from that. But then also for the group, it was like I'm a facilitator, yeah. But also that the fact that I had that experience, it just like showed us again, like we're all there's no hierarchy, yeah, we're all brothers, we're all the same, we're all going through this shit, we're all one.
SPEAKER_01:And then for me to experience that to be held by everyone, like and for another facilitator who's not here with us right this moment to just come and embrace you and be there for you, and then in the whole group. Well, you mentioned space jump. That's something you created, right? Yeah. Well, why don't you what is that? Yeah, tell the folks what is space jump that made him break down and grieve about the connection with his father.
SPEAKER_02:Space jump is a grief and intimacy, like release essentially. We convert grief into love. And it's a vicarious way of experience grief, and people have a conversation with someone in real time, like someone pretends to be someone that they may never ever have the chance to have the conversation with, or they know they know they need to have, but they're too scared to have it in the real world. So we pick someone that resembles in the space to to have that conversation. So you know if the dude with a beard, it can be your mother.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, mama, I'm gonna have a conversation with the mom. It's like the same color.
SPEAKER_03:I was the female and several. Well, because you have long hair. So you're you're a natural, right?
SPEAKER_02:So yeah, and I used to play this game when I was in drama school when I was a kid, and we used to play it, and I like the switching of the scenes and the acting point of it. But you know, this is the studies that show out of uh uh like the body keep score that if you have a conversation with an object, let alone then a person, is you can process this neurologically, you can have a little time. All wounds, all wounds, you can process them. But what happens is when you've been bonding with brothers over a weekend and you're seeing two guys have a conversation, you vicariously experience what is happening when someone else is healing. So we had an older gentleman who was also 69 as a participant come, and he was being like the respondent to someone who was having a conversation. So they're having a conversation, he was being their dad, role-playing their dad, and the person was having the conversation with their dad. But he was really feeling it, and he was processing his own stuff, being a dad in that conversation. And by him processing that as a group, because Clayton hypnotized us, or we're all processing together, and that's a part of the process of coming in, enabled Mark to access something deep within to heal his own.
SPEAKER_01:While watching two other men doing their work, yeah. That's the beauty of getting it. Watching men do their work, we do our own work.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, one man heals, we all heal, right? Yeah. That's why it's so deep, the bond at the beginning, and why we focus so much on getting the energy and the space and the connection right, because one, it gets it allows us to get to those depths, right? But then two, yeah, as you said, we vicariously heal through each other.
SPEAKER_01:So you created and designed much of the program. Yeah. What was the most deep, meaningful practice for you?
SPEAKER_02:The most deep and meaningful the deep, most deep and meaningful practice for me is the weekend in a whole because it's a system. And we've uh you know created and developed it in a way where no matter what you do throughout the retreat, you go through this emotional roller coaster where there's we go up, we go down, we go up, we go down, and we up, we go down. First day is past, second day is present, last day is future. And we weave the emotional experience. And I'm I'm I'm so happy we were talking about with Clayton beforehand because he does all the studying of the brain of like, okay, what um, how does the actual next level uh work? Because I I base it off of emotional patterning over the weekend. And essentially it gives people the perfect experience within two days to clear everything emotionally, wipe the slate clean, and then the last day, it's go time. And the most impactful, personally for me, exercise specifically.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I was gonna dig down. I was gonna make you have to name all these words.
SPEAKER_02:Is the the there's a there's a heist simulation that we do. And for me, it's the most charging for me because I'm like, okay, I'm about to, I have to deal off with my own wounds of I'm gonna feel rejected because I'm gonna piss people off and they're gonna say no to me. And I hate it when people say no to me. Um, I'm going to piss people off. I hate peep pippet pissing people off. I'm going to feel like stretched emotionally by getting into people's faces because we run this simulation where this we stir everything up in the guys and they can't escape, all of their patterns, all their things are gonna come up, and then we love on them and help them clear it and help them ground throughout the process. So that that for me is always the most uh challenging. I get the most excited, I experience them the most amount of emotions, but what we see after that for the rest of the day is it sets a tone, especially on the Saturday, of everyone just one by one. I just witness a breakthrough that happens.
SPEAKER_01:Domino's well, yeah. I I would have guessed that. I I could tell that that is the one you really showed up for. Really like brought brought it all.
SPEAKER_02:Thank you, yeah. Yeah, I like that one.
SPEAKER_01:What was your favorite, most meaningful, most impactful? Gosh, it's hard to pick. It really is. Pick one.
SPEAKER_00:Just do it. Just do it. It would have to be the rage release, I'd say, again. And um for many reasons, you know, the emotions people process, the power that they claim as a result of it. Uh, but for me specifically, the role I got to play throughout that process of holding space for the men, I guess you would say at the most powerful and at the most vulnerable at the same time after they've done the release and expressed potentially the most intense level of emotion they've ever felt in their life. Uh, it's really important, as you're talking about, to like when they go high and they come lower, that we bring them back. We bring them back to a healthy neutral level, and we take that really serious to make sure the integration is smooth and they they solidify that process within them instead of just getting carried away with it and yeah, sitting there holding that space for them and helping the men come back into their body to breathe, to center, to feel calm and even smile sometimes by the end of it before they were.
SPEAKER_01:That was pretty much your main job in that practice, was just you were there modeling and holding the men during their most vulnerable time.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. It was beautiful. I was uh it was an honor to do it and for so many men back to back. Um powerful, exhausting, but beautiful process, and I loved it. So, what happened to your voice? You used to be able to talk, but what happened? The next level happened is what it was. I could have been expecting it.
SPEAKER_01:So is that fair warning to people come to the next level?
SPEAKER_00:You you may leave voice impaired. Voice impaired for a couple of days impaired. I went a bit too hard, night one, with the screaming with the gentleman. And um, yeah, I think well you've got practice, right? And um, I think yeah, I just got carried away day one. And I'm wearing the consequences of it now. I think in another two or three days we'll be right.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. What about you, Sensei? Uh, you guys already asked me that, the brag circle. Yeah. I love the brag circle. Mainly because, as I shared with you, I've done that before. A coach of mine a few years ago gave me an assignment to create a brag video. Because he just knew I was stuck, you know, in these old messages, you call them tall poppy syndrome. It's don't don't get too tall, don't stand out, don't get noticed, don't blow your own horn, don't brag, don't draw attention to yourself. And my coach knew that if I didn't get through all those societal, family, religious messages, I would never rise to my my biggest self. I'd never, and you know, there's no inherent value in bragging on ourselves, but as we all saw, for the majority of the men, it was challenging to get in the circle of other men and blow their own horns. And you know, kind of for lack of a better word, can we say this? Be cunts about it, right? I didn't even say that in Australia. Uh I'm told that anyway. Australians say it a lot, so I'm practicing. And so I I love the brag circle. And yeah, I just got in the middle and um almost, I don't know, for lack of a better way of putting it, just went into a zone. You owned it. You absolutely owned that's what I think. I was the motherfucking king. And um, you know, bow down to the king, motherfucker. Yeah. And you know, that's not who I am.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And but yet it's liberating, it's empowering, and it lets me embrace my power and my influence and my impact on the world as a whole, but on the people close to me that I care about as well. And who would think that being an arrogant braggart would actually allow people to get closer to you and love you and and and and smile with you and get excited with you. So, yeah, I loved the brag circle. That was fun.
SPEAKER_00:It was so powerful seeing people claim that side of themselves because so many men were rejecting it, right? And those are rejecting the anger, for example. And it was in going there and being able to express it. It allowed them to own it, and in owning it, they're no longer owned by it. And yeah, the brag side of it was powerful to see. There's a lot of men that became better as a result of it. Like you said, we're more loved because of it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, integrating that shadow part of ourselves that we try to, we don't even know it's down there. We keep it out of sight. But we're safer, more empowered men when we can take the shadow, the light, bring them together, we can look at them both, and we can show the world. Yeah. And you know, so much of that goes on, you know, in the next level retreat. We're bringing up the stuff we don't usually look at. It's hot, it's it's down there. Now, the funny thing is, our friends know it's there, our partners know it's there. It bumps into the world because we're packing it around. But like they say, what what's repressed gets expressed. And and this was such a so many powerful opportunities to bring this out of the darkness, out of the shadow, put it in the light, own it, embrace it, dance with it, celebrate it, integrate it, and show it to the world. Yeah. Again, it makes us more empowered and safer, more loving, more conscious men.
SPEAKER_02:When you get seen in your power, you get to keep it.
SPEAKER_01:I've heard that.
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SPEAKER_02:A couple times I've heard that. Yeah, I think it's a theme of retreat. When you get seen in your power, you get to keep it. And that's one of the ethos of the next level. Um I've got one more topic uh to talk about before we wrap this up. But I just feel like for you guys, what do you think like the greater impact and like the uniqueness of the the next level has for people on the planet? I'll leave it there. Planet, men, families, or just the impact and the uniqueness.
SPEAKER_00:I think a big part of it is it creates a space for people to express and feel what they either otherwise never would have, which would be a constant limit on them. But it also creates an environment for them to express stuff that would have got expressed in the wrong environment or in the Container and so prevents that scenario from ever having happened in the first place. And that keeps not only them safe, but their partners, the children, their friends, the community. And we'll never be able to tally it up and know the extent of how far this goes, but who knows what hasn't happened. Like we can we can see what's going to happen, right? Yeah. But we never get to see what's not going to happen as a result of the changes made here today. And I think that's probably more powerful. It's not more powerful, but that the power of that is often overlooked. We don't see what we've avoided as a result of in a safe way, releasing what would have happened in another way eventually, anyway. So I think it it's doing a lot of good. We'll see it in in measurable ways. The businesses, the revenue increase, the relationships save, the relationships that come back together, the improved relationship with kids. But we will never see what doesn't happen. Which I think we can imagine and know. I'm sure there's statistics out there that would support this.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I think I mean to tap on that, that's such a great point. And it's it isn't easily measured because it just it's things that are not happening. But the people that are doing the hurt is most like mostly the men, right? Men are the ones that women are afraid of. Men are the ones who are stronger that can create the violence. So yeah, it's having these men come in where previously, if they like the men who hurt people are the ones who don't do stuff like this, who keep things bottled in, who don't have practices to regulate their emotions, to get this stuff out of their bodies and stuff like that. So yeah, I agree.
SPEAKER_01:It's the But But you know, with that said, most every guy here acknowledged the hurt they'd caused. Oh, yeah. Most every man here acknowledged I treated this woman badly, or I wasn't good to my child, or I hurt a friend. And so you say they don't come, but but really they do, because we've all hurt. We men, we we're human. We've all hurt people we cared about, and we've all hurt ourselves. And so, yeah, when when when we come here and own that and put it out in front of other men and get held and supported, man, how powerful is that to become not like we talked about, not less dangerous men, but men that have a fierceness about us that's needed in this world, but men that are open-hearted and conscious and and have that under control rather than it just coming up from the dark and getting expressed.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I think also it's like they come here and now they have the skills because they've been in an environment where they can have a rage release and then emotionally regulate with the breath, and they've can been put through this roller coaster of so many different emotions. So now they have like a touch point of like, oh, I'm experiencing this similar emotion that I felt at the retreat. How did I get out of it there? Oh, I did this. Okay, and now I can make a more grounded decision.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah. It's happy on that as well. I think a lot of men walk away with brand new tools that are a lot sharper than beforehand. They go away with a lot more clarity, they walk away with a lot more emotional regulation and like a frame in their mind and a perception that they can um lead better without the fear of it. Because the whole weekend we design, you know, uh to create chaos for the guys, but it's consistently grounding, reframing, back into your body, out of your head, back into your body, make a clear decision, go. And I think that you know, when you experience something like this and you go back, you know, back out into your families, into your workforce, like you are so much more sharper. Your sword is a lot sharper if you've not even traded it for a new, you know, bigger, a bigger and better one that that is more fierce.
SPEAKER_01:Was that that's the Jordan Peterson quote that you yeah, maybe a little bit misquoting Jordan Peterson, but something along the lines that uh a good man isn't the safe man, a good man is the dangerous man who has that under voluntary control. Exactly. And like Mark, as you were saying that, you know, historically, yeah, we men have done a lot of damage. We've done a lot of hurt, and we've done damage and hurt to people that we care about. And the pendulum kind of swung, and we've seen that. I've written about it. You guys have experienced it in yourselves, I have too, to where we many of us decided, well, I don't want to be like those bad men. I don't want to be like my father. I don't want to be like those bad men I've heard women complain about. I don't want to be angry, I don't want to be abusive. And so we've repressed our power, and even power is still kind of a sensitive word in our culture nowadays. Men and masculine empowerment, no, we don't want men to have power. And so it's it's been pushed the other extreme to where men have been passive and indirect and lacking in any kind of power, but then stuff still comes out. Again, what what isn't expressed, you know, whatever was repressed gets expressed. It still comes out over here, but in these indirect, dark, hidden, passive aggressive ways. So what I love, what I see happening in in the world today in a very positive way, this program's a crucial part of that, is when men reclaim their power, whether it's their anger, whether it's their fierceness, whether it's their strength, but they reclaim it in a conscious way, an open-hearted way, with the support and accountability of other men. We actually become those good men, like Jordan Peterson was referencing. Yeah, we can be dangerous. What's the phrase that no, it's Lindsay that that said the phrase it's better to be a warrior in the garden than a gardener in a war. So yeah, we the world, our women, our children need our fierceness, our strength, our power. And they need it tempered with consciousness and love and awareness of of the impact of our actions.
SPEAKER_02:Is that what you saw in the next level?
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah, definitely. I I saw just the way the structure was created to get men. And you know, every guy here, you could see their their anxiety and fear when they knew they were going to do something like express anger or or vulnerability. You could see it scared them. And then after they'd done it, they they'd look like powerful men, but powerful men that you can trust and feel safe around, not powerful men that you go, oh, don't hurt me. And and yeah, that I love because you know, I I've I've worked with women for 40 years as a marriage therapist. Women consistently tell me, I don't want a weak man. I don't want a man I can walk all over. My wife tells me that. I and my and my wife can kick my ass. She's a strong woman in many ways, but she doesn't want a passive weak man. She wants a man that both can stand up to her and stand up for her. And the world wants and needs those kind of men. And yeah, next level is training those kind of men. And we bring that to our women, we bring it to our children, we bring it to the world, and everybody benefits. It's a win-win-win outcome.
SPEAKER_02:Thank you. Well, to wrap this up, I'd love to just hear, just in like one sentence, just like our our biggest takeaway. I'll go first. Um, my biggest takeaway from this entire retreat is definitely from the leadership team's perspective of just when we're all locked in, being all leaders in our space for what we do is, you know, coming together and um really believing in the mission and being really passionate for men and when you can bring that energy together with people, just that container itself is creates this ripple effect that you know can really take people to places where they want to go, but may not necessarily have the tools. And um, I'm just grateful to be a part of the whole thing. And um just be to be a part of the whole process has just been amazing.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Biggest takeaway is the power of community and brotherhood. Like I I've always known it. I I preach it, I talk about it. But it's another thing when you're like in it and it and and for days on end and locked in from 6 a.m. through 9, 10, 11 p.m. And um it compounds in itself. It's just the one-on-one space is powerful. You bring that same quality and depth to a group container where you get everyone in sync, and you bring an environment of trust and safety to be vulnerable, to relieve, to let out. One person's story triggers another one, to triggers another one's, and it just creates this cascade domino-like effect of growth. And like we said, uh we start crying on from someone else's process, and we're releasing, and then we're supported, and then that opens a door for someone else that never would have been opened, and things just get healed and dealt with that never otherwise would have been dealt with as a result of the group. So it's my takeaway is the power of the right group on the right wavelength with each other, with the right intentions and the right tools and people to support them in the process, too.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. I think for me it's just the power of safety. Like when you have a safe space, which is a buzzword, but when it's a truly safe space and it's created in that way, it allows the men to really step up and and lean in. And then from that safety, they lean in, they get their breakthrough, breakthrough, and then they create more safety. There's a ripple effect of how you can facilitate the safety in the space in the moment, and then that trickles into that man becoming more safe within himself, and then that man becomes more safe for the women in his ri in his in his life, other men. So yeah, just the power of safety.
SPEAKER_01:I think we're all kind of saying the same thing from our own uh perspective, because you know, I think several of the men here had never done a men's event. They'd maybe never done a men's group. And I was just so impressed with the courage it took. Because I know that personally of when I first began, you know, my own journey. It's scary to show up and you don't know what to expect, and it's a bunch of dudes, and most men have issues with men. We have dad issues, maybe we got bullied as kids, never fit in with men, never felt good enough. And the guys that show up for this, not knowing what to expect, and having no clue of that secret sauce that happens when men get vulnerable with other men in a safe place, of how good it feels, and how deeply you connect with other men, and how you you you go away wanting more of it and not wanting it to end. And so it just impressed me the courage of the men that showed up, not even knowing what men's work was or what the next level was. And they showed up, expressed their anxiety, expressed their fear, expressed their judgments, and then they dove in. They dove in. And you know, when it was time to go this afternoon, nobody wanted to leave. Nobody wanted to leave. I mean, I mean, there were how many different rounds of hugging was there? You know, said by me. And you know, skies are coming up, you know. Robert, can I take a photo with you? And I go, didn't we already take two or three together? It's like nobody wanted to go. Let's take more pictures, let's do more hugs. You know, let's let's let's let's just sit back and talk a little bit longer. Yeah, it's it's that secret sauce that we men don't know what we're missing until we taste it, until we have a flavor of it. And then we can't get enough. And so, yeah, that that was my big takeaway. Just once again, I saw it again, create a safe space, a powerful container for men where they can be real, be vulnerable, give a shit about other men, and let other men give a shit about them. And um, it's transformative. Thank you, guys. Thank you. It's been amazing. Good job, guys. Okay, let's switch off. Oh, I'm ready to go. Let's work. Come on. You guys are lazy bumps. Once I did it on my terms, I made you guys put on decent clothes. It's like, let's go. Let's do it. Let's get it done.