Super Aging Starts at Birth, Not Retirement (Re-release)

Josh Salzman shares his journey as a fitness coach to golf champion Ernie Els and his philosophy of "super aging" that focuses on mindful nutrition, thought patterns, and exercise for optimal health at any age.

• Super aging starts at birth and depends on how you handle nutrition, thinking patterns, and physical activity
• 95% of fitness is in the mind and eating habits, while only 5% is physical exercise
• Josh helped rehabilitate Ernie Els after knee surgery, getting him back to competition in 3.5 months
• Working with celebrities requires knowing when to push and when to give space
• Intermittent fasting and alkaline-rich diets help maintain optimal health
• Western culture often marginalizes elderly wisdom while Eastern traditions revere it
• Recovery is as important as exertion in any fitness regimen
• Changing your thoughts can transform your physical reality and overall wellbeing
• Maintaining fitness as we age allows us to share wisdom and experiences with younger generations

Visit SuperA.uk to learn more about Josh Salzman's approach to aging well and joining a global community focused on quality of life at every age.

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Introduction to Super Aging

Speaker 1 0:11

You're listening to Tales from the First Tee . I'm your host , rich Easton , recording from beautiful Charleston , south Carolina . This is part two of a two-part episode where I interview my good , lifelong friend , josh Salzman , who is a fitness guru and health and fitness coach to celebrities and anybody and everybody who wants to . Super age and super aging starts at birth . It's how you handle your life , it's how you handle your nutrition and it's how you get up off the couch and go do something . In this second half episode we talk to his relationship and work with Ernie Els , who has won 70 tournaments , four majors , and when you add those to mine , it's a combined 70 tournaments and four majors . You got to hear what Josh has to say .

The Looking Glass Self

Speaker 2 1:42

Whoever you meet , rich and I'm sure you have the same experience whatever you think they are , they have the planes , they have the trains . I've worked with some of the richest people in the world . I don't want to trade places with any of them any of them , any of them . I'd rather have a small bank balance and feel the way I do about my life and be as fit as I am right now , than a massive bank balance and can't get out of a car properly without going , or you know , get out of a chair without going , or you know , gosh . I got to keep an eye on this property and that property , cause the more stuff you got , my opinion , the more stuff you worry about less stuff . You know let's all have less stuff . We don't need a lot of stuff . You just got to get rid of it someday .

Speaker 2 2:21

But the point I'm making is what's fascinating ? It's a mirror glass image of yourself . So you do your own psychology all day long . You go oh , I'm not thinking like that . Oh gosh , they think it's really great over there , but it ain't great over there . And so I got to entertain 24-7 with the people , I train all kinds of people and I also got a looking glass self where I go . You know , josh , you're actually .

Speaker 1 2:49

You know you're not the brightest guy in the world , but at least you're happy . You know what I mean . Yeah , I don't know about the first part . I definitely know the second part . You're happy , but I don't know that you're not the brightest guy in the world , cause you've figured this out . Hey , let me just . We were talking about some of these celebrities

Working with Ernie Els

Speaker 1 3:00

and this is a golf podcast , and you and I have spoken often about Ernie Els , the Big Easy , and I've always liked watching him play . Now , you were part of some of his successes in terms of getting him fit and ready for a few US Opens , and you've traveled with him in a lot of places . Can you talk about what you can talk about ?

Speaker 2 3:25

I can talk about everything , but you know , I everything , but I just think this may be a show that the young kids are listening to , so I better keep .

Speaker 1 3:31

I'm not sure about that , I'm thinking of them right ?

Speaker 2 3:34

I'm not sure about that .

Speaker 1 3:34

Certainly , this is definitely 21 and over . So whatever you feel with your relationship with Ernie , you can share , because a lot of people don't get to see what's inside the ropes and they really they just see guys on television . They see them performing . To win a US Open is just an incredible feat .

Speaker 2 3:51

To win it several times and win majors and win so many tournaments , you're doing something that other people aren't doing well , I'd say this with Ernie , listen , he won a couple majors before he got to me , um , but with when I , we Listen , he won a couple majors before he got to me , but when we were together he won the first . What happened was I met Ernie at Wentworth Golf Club , which I had a long affiliation with . In fact they're just down the street and I helped set that club up . I was the first one-to-one at this famous golf course and then they enlarged the gym and they had a few owners . And I always say to people the story of Wentworth and me is like the story of Joseph in the Bible . They came up Pharaoh that , no , not Joseph , so to speak an owner .

Speaker 2 4:27

So I left Wentworth in 2013, . But in 2004 , I met Ernie there , cause Ernie would go there all the time , cause he has a place on the 16th here , and I mean here literally , cause it's only two . It's about a mile and a half from where I'm sitting right now talking to you and he'd come to the gym and , although I was personal training there , I'd always give him a towel , I was giving him water . He'd always smile at me and I'd say , hey , good job , man . And then I said one time I said I saw him training , I said let me take you through some bicep and triceps . He goes okay , so I just go bing , bing , bing , bing and uh , and he's got to get his meniscus out . And then he gets cruciate . And we started working when he got right back from the operating theater on his back and he took my polar sunglasses on his back garden and I trained him , him laying on his back , and I helped rehab his knee . He had other people help him , but I was his main guy that helped rehab his knee . And within six weeks he won his first tournament in South Africa called the Leopard Creek tournament .

Speaker 2 5:34

And , uh , tiger came back after eight months when Ernie came . Sorry , it wasn't six weeks , it was sorry three months . Ernie came back to three , three and a half months , that's right . Three and a half months , excuse me . Three and a half months , that's right . Three and a half months , excuse me Three and a half months . And he won his first tournament . Tiger took eight months to come back after his cruise ships . I mean , he had so many operations , tiger .

Speaker 1 5:51

Yeah , sure , he's had at least nine yeah .

Speaker 2 5:52

Yeah , he's another league of getting injuries , but Ernie had this , and so he won his first tournament , and then we started .

Speaker 1 6:05

And then to Dubai , and I actually went to Dubai working with Darren Clark as well , seems like a good guy , right ?

Speaker 2 6:08

Yeah , he was a good , really good guy and his wife , unfortunately , was passing away at the time slowly with cancer , although she was still alive . It was a very sad time . But anyways , having said that , I was also the golf correspondent for CNN , believe it or not , and you're talking to a guy that's never played a full . I mean , I have played a full round of golf , but you know I don't play golf at all . If I have a handicap it's called golf , right . So I never played the game . But I understand , I understand biomechanics and I understand what exercises . And the first time I was at that tournament I was with this guy from CNN that set me up with this job and he actually set me up with the flight because I was doing a commentating for CNN , literally from a fitness point of view golf fitness . Anyways , I was also working with Ernie , but not only part time , and Darren part and part time , and Ernie lost to Tiger in a playoff and I saw Tiger have a protein shake and a glass of water and Ernie , just like in the playoff , he just like had I don't know a Gatorade and he hit into the trees and Tiger won the tournament . And I said to him after I said you should beat this fucking guy . You know , I said you should be fucking beating this guy . Maybe you practiced a little bit more you'd beat the guy . Let's , let's do this full time man . So we did . He hired me full time and , uh , we made the deal .

Speaker 2 7:20

Typical , typical Ernie way . When he was eating two Big Macs on the way to from from Doral to Lake Nona in Orlando and we shook on it and I said because I was really nervous . I said , look , I gotta , I gotta take a pee . So he let me out on a soft shoulder , so I went to the bushes , took a pee and I came back in and when people ask me he goes so did you sign a contract with Ernie ? I said , well , we made this deal for x amount of money per year and I had to take a pee . And he let me out on the highway between Doral and Orlando . And the reason I figured that he's going to stick by the deal because he didn't drive off and leave me by the side of the road .

Speaker 1 7:58

That's your contract .

Speaker 2 7:59

That was my contract . So we went off from there and , yeah , so I was with him for about four and a half years and then after that . So he won a match play and we traveled from China . I remember one of the greatest places we traveled from China to San Jose . We went back in time on his plane . We went all over the world South Africa , eight times . I got to meet all these South African rugby players I got to meet . I went into Rondé Barber's suite in Tampa Bay . We flew in from London and we watched a football game

Celebrity Stories and Experiences

Speaker 2 8:29

. You know , don't ask everything . I had dinner with Jack Nicholson and Gary Player and Ernie , and I heard stories about Glenn Campbell . He had to eat a whole ounce of dope on Jack Nicholson's plane in 1976 because you know you could get in trouble . I mean , you know .

Speaker 1 8:48

Well , he thought he was going to get busted , so he ate it .

Speaker 2 8:51

Well , what happened was I was having dinner at the Bears Club in West Palm Beach , not too far from , you know , trumpo's place and everybody else in Tiger and all the golfers that go there , you know . And Ernie has a place there . We're having dinner at the Bears Club and there was just four of us Jack Nicholson , gary Player and Ernie . This was the beginning of our relationship , when I just rehabbed them and I was the golden boy , you know . So we're sitting there and they're starting to talk about private planes . You know they each had a private plane , obviously Schmucko here , you know when , economy , you know what I mean . Or on Ernie's plane . So you know they said you've got to watch it on those planes . You know , if you have any things that's like contraband , you can get your whole plane taken .

Speaker 2 9:34

And Gary , that Gary player , you know he's just sipping on the wine . And Jack Nicholson says yeah , you know , glenn Campbell was on my flight . You know pot . I said Glenn , you got some pot with you . He goes yeah , I got a whole ounce of alcohol . He goes well , eat the fucking thing , because you'll get in fucking trouble . So , glenn Campbell , ate the whole fucking ounce , right ?

Speaker 1 9:58

The beginning of edibles . That's where edibles came from , holy shit .

Speaker 2 10:04

It was like Cheech and Chong . He was the dope man . I can't eat all this dope man Anyway . So yeah , so I got the inside story why Glenn went a little bit off the rhinestone cowboy fence , so to speak . So that was the experience with Ernie . I mean , he was the hero in South Africa , so anybody that was associated with him was like . We went to this great place in Sun City called the what's the hotel there ? Forget it now , anyways , but it was just like you couldn't believe the kind of grandeur .

Speaker 1 10:37

So everything was five-star Everywhere you went with him , everything was five-star .

Speaker 2 10:41

Yeah , yeah , yeah , right , the red carpets rolled out for him right .

Speaker 2 10:46

Oh yeah . And he used to say to his caddy , jp , who went on to caddy for McElroy for nine years I used to call him JP went off from Ernie to the ATM machine , you know . And he said to JP he said , if you fuck up again , you're going to be fucking flying commercial . So I was on the bus after Ernie fired me from full time in Paramus , new Jersey , for we had a disagreement about something , and I said , ernie , you know , you said that JP is going to fly commercial . I'm on the fucking bus , man , I'm on the fucking bus right now . You know what ? That fucking life ? Did you ever get on a bus before , man ? Anyways . So then he hired me again to do some part-time stuff in 2012 . And he ended up we worked with together for three , three , uh , three months , really solidly , three times a week , and he won the British Open in 2012 , when Adam Scott , if you remember , melted down on the last day and Ernie was there to win his last major Wow , that's great stories .

Speaker 2 11:41

So that's the story with Ernie , but you know he's a great guy and listen what you find out when you work close with anyone , whether it's an actor or anything . It's a very fine line to know to be there and not to be there . I was with the Duchess of York for two months getting to lose 40 pounds . Now when you say not be there , you mean get out of their way . Get out of their way , have a sense , and it's almost like when you train people that are high . You know like they're intense . You got to know when to shut the hell up , like I'm not doing now , for instance . Yeah , well , well , this is not the time to do it . It would be the worst fucking podcast ever . Yeah , right , yeah , well , well , all I'm saying is that you know , with people , you got to feel them out , because with anyone , whether the child is nine years old or the person is nine years old and I say person because people that are nine years old have a narrative already and if you don't get down to their level and get into it , you're not not going to get the best out of them and they're not going to get the best out of the session . Yeah , and whether they're 95 years old , which I work with . So over my years I work with my dad until he was 97 , pretty much .

Speaker 2 12:43

So what I'm saying is is that you have to know how to motivate people . One of the ways you don't motivate people is you say the wrong things at the wrong time or not listen to what the person's saying . You don't listen . You have to listen to someone , then you hear what their problems are . So it's kind of like a psychology session , and whether that's Ernie or Angela Jolie or this nine-year-old kid in the hall that I work with , and then you have to feel them out physically , to

The 95/5 Rule of Fitness

Speaker 2 13:10

feel where they are that day , and even though their mind might be saying , I really want to work hard , you're thinking well , they don't need to work too hard because they won't recover from what they're doing . And remember exercise I don't care what you're doing . You can go through rituals to stretch every day , but if you want progressive muscle hypertrophy , you have to recover from it . You can't just push yourself , you have to train mindfully .

Speaker 1 13:30

And how do you know when you're in a recovery mode and how do you know when to start back up again ? Is it just that feeling you get , that pain that you get in your joints , that tells you I need to recover ?

Speaker 2 13:43

No , I don't think you need to go that far . I think people like you and I and people like super a people that's the reason Wayne Leal and I are in this business is that you realize as you get older . The Nautilus guys were right . I didn't think the equipment was the best equipment , but less is more . And I say less is more in the sense that I believe , as we do in superauk , wayne Leal and myself , we believe that 95% of your fitness is in your head .

Speaker 2 14:09

It's how you think , it's how you're thinking , because if you take your whole week , your thinking takes up your most time . You think . When you're asleep you have the . It's always darkest before the dawn . It's how you're , what's your , what's your ? You know your inner words going on in your head . And the second thing is how you're eating , and and and and how you're sleeping . So you know . So , between the 95% being how you're thinking , the 5% is how you're eating , which is in that sorry , excuse me . The eating is in the 95% . So how you're thinking , how you're eating is 95% and how you're exercising physically is 5% .

Speaker 1 14:45

Really See , here in America it's probably we think that the 95% is the physical exercise . Now , certainly , nutrition has become a much better topic as we know more about it . But you're saying there are other things to focus on and physical is just one part of it , but it's not the whole driver what I'm saying 95% of your fitness is how you're thinking and eating and sleeping right and resting how you rest 5% is what you do physically , and I say that in the sense that you can work out every day little bits , but most of your day is your focus should be how am I thinking , how am I eating ?

Speaker 2 15:24

Because your thinking rules everything . What are your words to yourself ? The words to yourself- .

Speaker 1 15:30

So you're self-talk , right , self-talk .

Speaker 2 15:32

Self-talk . You know , no matter how crazy it gets , you got to keep your cool , because panic and fear and anger are the worst things to have . And if I get angry as a wrestler , I'm going to get angry , but if I'm angry too long , short-term anger is good , long-term anger is fear , yeah . So that's not good . So I have to make choices . So those choices are discipline choices . So discipline is all of this . Obviously , this headline is discipline and I have to think about what am I eating ? Like today , I'm intermittent fasting every day , so I don't eat until like one o'clock or two o'clock and then and I finish at like nine o'clock in the evening eating , and then I start with a fruit based vegetable protein shake and then I go on to eat . I eat fish , organic fish , but I don't eat any meat . This is me vegetables . And I have a couple of vices . I like to have a joint , I like to have a little bit of vodka , but I don't drink hardly at all during the week .

Speaker 1 16:21

Well , when you have a joint though how do you handle the munchies ?

Speaker 2 16:25

I just eat during my window , but I eat the right things .

Speaker 1 16:34

I choose the right things . So you don't let smoking .

Speaker 2 16:35

You don't let smoking drive a behavior that you normally wouldn't have if you weren't smoking . No , I don't , but I find that when I recovered from my hip , they gave me a whole mess of codeine . I took it once . I got constipated for three days . So all I used was CBD and THC , cbd and THC .

Speaker 2 16:50

And I ate really , really well and I exercise very mindfully and I try to sleep well and I meditate and all those other things and I try to keep my third eye , like I very believe in Zen . You know , although I'm Jewish , I incorporate all philosophies and Taoism and I try to look at myself like all the time , with a third eye above , saying how am I acting ? Am I acting correctly ? Am I acting like a leader ? Am I taking care of myself ? Because I feel physically great ? So , in a world that people don't feel physically great , especially with the COVID now , especially with people aging that are going to be , you know , 65 , my age and our age , um , I'm , I'm , I'm in a plus side and , as opposed to the years that I talked to you about just now in your audience , you know , in the 90s I had a really tough time

The Philosophy of Super Aging

Speaker 2 17:39

. I had ulcerative colitis . On top of that , I almost had bowel cancer because I was using , you know , ibuprofen to take care of my pains .

Speaker 1 17:46

You know , oh , do you not use that ?

Speaker 2 17:48

anymore . No , I can't even look at an aspirin and I never . I haven't taken an aspirin or ibuprofen , aleve , advil , anything night . You know night nurse , not night nurse , but what's it ? Nighttime Aleve or whatever that stuff is , any of that stuff , anything with ibuprofen ? It's Nurofen over here For 15 years .

Speaker 1 18:09

Do you take ?

Speaker 2 18:10

turmeric . I take turmeric but most of my stuff is because I have a very alkalized nutritional base and so , as opposed to acidic , because the worst acidity is cancer , obviously . In a nutshell , and the best alkalizing is that you're going emptying your bowels every day and you give your gut a break . In my opinion , my strong opinion , and you know the ancient Spartans and all warriors used to fight on an empty stomach . You know ancient humankind didn't eat all the time .

Speaker 1 18:45

Yeah , but they died at 42 , right they ? Died young so there's got to be a happy medium here someplace .

Speaker 2 18:50

No , there's a happy medium , because you have to know modern science . I understand that , but what I'm saying is , in today's world , with modern science , with the right exercise , with the fact that I can get in my car and see my next client and I don't have to walk four miles , you know what I mean .

Speaker 1 19:04

Yeah .

Speaker 2 19:04

Because , at the end of the day , we can use those things , but use the wisdom that's out there . So back to this . You know what we're doing right now with the super auk , and it's about a collaboration of like-minded people all over the world which you're one of them , obviously and and people that are authentic and people that use wisdom from all sources , from each other . I've learned more in the last year than I learned in 40 years of my fitness business because of what I went through and who I'm collaborating with right now . I learned from you , rich . So the point of it is is that you know , the minute we think we know everything , we know nothing . However , there are ancient rules and ancient wisdom that we should always apply that are thousands of years old and that are also the wisdom that we've learned from our parents or other mentors that we've had that actually gave us some good information , because everybody has something . There's a lot of people that have a lot of good things to say in , say , the wellbeing world . You just gotta take what you need and you incorporate it and you experiment with it . If it works , do it . So nobody knows everything . But the minute that you think you know everything , you know nothing . But we have learned a lot , my partner and myself , in 80 years combined , because he's a yoga guy and I'm a guy from Pittsfield that does this kind of manual training . But the point of it is , at the end of the day , is that we can always learn from a group , and I think it's very important in today's world , rich , where everybody's floundering because of politics and pandemics and economy and all this stuff , because people have fear anyways . You know , and you know they've always had it . Now they got to . Now there's another reason for it and a real reason for it . But still those same people were fearing other things , maybe the fear that their kid couldn't get into school . I mean , there's always , there's always anxiety , people are anxious . Let's face it . You know we're all the minute . You think you don't know you're weird , you're really weird . But the point of it is , as long as you , you stay steady with disciplines , we're all going to die . It's how do you want to die ? You want to die by super aging , not , not , not anti-aging . We love the fact we're getting older , we'd like it . But don't let your vehicle make , not perform . So your wisdom can't carry you through life , or you can and you share your wisdom with your grandkids . I have two grandkids now .

Speaker 2 21:19

In the last year I never thought I'd be so psyched in my life . I'm as psyched as a father , but I'm more psyched as a grandfather and I want to see that . I want to play football , those kids . I want to . I want to . You know , I want to wrestle with my grandson and my granddaughter . I think she'll she'll be a better wrestler actually .

Speaker 2 21:34

But the point of it is , is that why ?

Speaker 2 21:37

You know , the idea behind super a is really I got to give my friend , wayne Liel credit for this because he's actually he's a better artist , he's a graphic artist , he's , he's , he's , he's a Michelangelo and I'm the guy in the guy on the line of scrimmage , blocking and tackling basically .

Speaker 2 21:54

But what I'm saying is that in today's world , rich , what you're doing and what I'm trying to do and we collaborate together as we are now is to try to tell people you know , whatever's going on , you have to nurture yourself , you have to take care of yourself and when you do , then whatever you want to do , you'll do better and you'll lead a better quality of life . I don't want to go , you know , not enjoy every moment I can of life , no matter what is going on . And if I can do that , then I can at least help change the world in one way or another , because I can change the people around me . And you know it's a biblical thing and I get this from my dad . I don't like to go to synagogue , but I consider myself a very spiritual and a very religious person in my own right . But if you change one person , you can change the world . Rich .

Speaker 1 22:43

Yeah , I believe that . So superauk

Respecting Wisdom of Elders

Speaker 1 22:45

. So that's how all of my listeners , if they're listening , say it again please , and it's super .

Speaker 2 22:55

It's S-U-P-E-R capital , s-u-p-e-r A capital , a joined together and then dot UK and there's no dot between the UK and it's basically super aging wellness and we shortened it up and it was formulated by Wayne in this way . I mean , I've always done it , I always believed in super aging , because I've always worked with people and I've had different businesses under different names where I've worked with all ages , because we're always super aging . So it's not just for people , it is aimed at the demographic over 40 . But let's face it , we super age at every age . You and I were super aging . We were together at 18 . We were together at 18 .

Speaker 2 23:30

We just if I had a guy like you or you had a guy like me at my age telling you what to do for lacrosse or telling me what to do for fitness , I would have soaked it all up . I would have gone man , this guy I'm going to sit at his feet . He's like come on , man . You know in the East , you know they revere people that are age , that are certain ages . You know , in dojos , in martial arts skills , you that are certain ages . You know in dojos , in martial arts skills , you know it's the kung fu guy coming out , you know , take the model .

Speaker 1 23:55

Well it's the elders are respected in the East and in the West not so much .

Speaker 2 24:01

They're marginalized . They're marginalized , they're stuck on the side . Okay , shut up , little boy . I'll tell you a story about my dad really quickly , Richie , no-transcript . He said to my dad . My dad goes wow , that's a lot of money . And the guy says well , we went by the book and my dad said whose book are you talking , looking at ? Whose book are you looking at ? And and , and , and and .

Speaker 2 24:55

That kind of sums it up , because people get to a certain age and my dad had all the wisdom in the world and people . I would listen to everything to my dad . My dad was very sharp right up until the day he died , because whatever he did , he was a stamp collector and he was a rabbi and he studied , he read the every paper and he was , he had ad from from ohio state university before getting his you know rabbit . And and the point I'm making is people didn't listen to him , they didn't look at him unless , unless they knew me or they were a member of his congregation because he was old , because they figured let's push him out of the way . He doesn't have anything to say . He has plenty to say . There's plenty to say . You can learn from guy . He's been around for 97 fucking years , for fuck's sake .

Speaker 1 25:35

It's kind of the story of how we're handling COVID also because it seems to be attacking more of the elderly and people with underlying conditions and the way we handle it , if not handled the right , we are marginalizing them by not wearing masks , by not doing the right things , and you could see how certain sectors of society are disregarding the elderly by being disrespectful , not wearing masks and not seeing this as a danger to those who know a shitload more about life than we do . And just a heads up for all of you listeners for the next five to ten minutes as we wind down this podcast . It just so happens that the landscaping company decided to come right outside the studio and use their blowers . I mean , is that incredibly timing ? So anyway , when you hear blowers in the background , it is my lack of professionalism I don't have any choice but to be in the groove right now .

Speaker 2 26:35

So in my profession , where you get all these guys that are 30-something , you know , and Wayne's 62 and I'm just about 65 , you're competing in a sense with all these 25-year-old guys that are really buffed and you know they should be buffed at 25 .

Speaker 2 26:49

They should be buffed at 50 . They should be buffed at 25 . They should be buffed at 50 . They should be buffed at any age .

Speaker 2 26:54

But the point of it is is that everybody goes for the next glossy Instagram post and isn't this great ? And love islands over here and all this stuff . And you know , let's look at the guy's 10 pack . The thing about it is , as you know , buddy , is that if you can stay strong when you're 65 and be in great shape or 70 , that's's that says everything . So , because you know it isn't just the fitness , it isn't just it's your life , you know you had certain issues you had to get over and a lot of people can't handle certain issues , which I don't have to tell you . Matt , they get a little bit of . You get a bankruptcy , they lose a company , they get divorced , they have a kid that has emotional issues , they see death , shit happens . But the point of it is , if you're authentic and if you're a leader in your profession , then you can help navigate through that for yourself and help others navigate through their lives .

Speaker 2 27:45

And I think when you're talking about super aging and our age Rich is , a lot of people think let's sit on the steps right now , let's play a good move of golf , and you know I'm not going to go any place better than this . Well , yes , you are . If you want to , yes , you can . If you want to , yes , you can be fitter . My dad could be fitter even at 97 by just squeezing a ball and keeping his grip until the day he died . So you know how badly do you want it .

Speaker 2 28:11

And if you really want to live , then you know , then you got to take care of yourself and you don't have to go mad . You don't even have to go to a gym . You can just , obviously , get on our website and learn everything you need to know . But there's other things out there . So the point I'm making whether you go to somebody like us , which would be great , but at the same time , you've got to want it . You know the people say you know , I really want to get in shape . Well , you've got to get out of bed first . You know what I ?

Speaker 1 28:37

mean yeah . So , baby boomers and Gen Xers represent well over 40% of the population . That's a big number , and so I mean there is a big . It's not a niche . It is a big number for people that can take better care of themselves and see better results

Final Thoughts on Living Better

Speaker 1 28:55

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Speaker 2 28:55

I'd like your brand , Rich . There's 1 billion people , 1 billion people turning 60 this year . Buddy 1 billion people .

Speaker 1 29:01

Yeah , yeah , and I'd like to see more . Do it healthier . So would you All right ? So I think we've talked about your brand , we've talked about your life . Is there anything else you want to talk that you want to say to my listeners as we end this podcast ?

Speaker 2 29:15

I would just say to all your listeners I mean , take a look at superaiduk for sure , and you'll get a global tribe of people all around the world that you know have the same beliefs and values . They might have different ways of getting there to that end game , which is a better quality of life , but everybody's got a message there . But the most important thing is never think it's over . It's never over . And whether you're , you know you have a weight issue or you have any issues in your life , if you use certain disciplines and everybody needs disciplines to get by and that's , you know , through eating right first of all , thinking right , eating much better , exercising mindfully , and you can make changes because you can change things . There's a great book that you might have read Rich Man's Search for Meaning . Have you read that book by Viktor Frankl ?

Speaker 1 30:05

No , but I'm going to now .

Speaker 2 30:07

Well , you should read it and the listeners should read it too . And it talks about a guy that's the Anthony Robbins of Auschwitz , basically trying to tell people not to commit suicide . One of the things he said was the Nazis can do anything they want to me . They can kill me , they can shoot , they can do anything , they can starve me , but they can't change how I'm thinking and your thinking is your ultimate freedom . So , whether anybody can always look outside and see the world on a rainy day as being hot it's nice rain , nice rain or you can look at it as the most worst thing in the world , and people can look at the sunshine and see darkness .

Speaker 2 30:44

I've known that with my own personal experience , with my own family that have had depression . Sure , but I tell you what , if you change your thoughts and change the way you think and take actions from those thoughts and you keep you know , you can make a difference . And in this world that we live in right now , you know , like I say , changing yourself first in the right way can help change the world you live in . So it's got to start from you , you know , be the change you want to see in others , as Gandhi said .

Speaker 1 31:31

And what a perfect way to end this podcast on some of Josh's wise words . I mean , he had great tutelage from his dad , growing up with a rabbi , but he's also traveled the world and learned from other people and he didn't say this , but I think one of the themes of one of his points was none of us are as smart as all of us , and he's learned from a lot of people . So if you want to learn more about what josh and his partner are doing , go to super auk and learn a little bit about how people are super aging . I think it's fascinating . You've been listening to another episode from Tales from the First Tee . I'm your host , rich Easton , recording from beautiful Charleston , south Carolina , and if you enjoyed this episode and you enjoy the podcast , give it a like , give it a review , forward it to your friends . I mean , all the cool kids are doing it . Thank you .