{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"speaker":"Jon Taylor","startTime":13.95,"endTime":16.62,"body":"Hello, and welcome"},{"speaker":"Jon Taylor","startTime":13.95,"endTime":16.62,"body":"to the Thin End of the wedge."},{"speaker":"Jon Taylor","startTime":16.83,"endTime":19.74,"body":"The podcast where experts from"},{"speaker":"Jon Taylor","startTime":16.83,"endTime":19.74,"body":"around the world share new and"},{"speaker":"Jon Taylor","startTime":19.74,"endTime":23.85,"body":"interesting stories about life"},{"speaker":"Jon Taylor","startTime":19.74,"endTime":23.85,"body":"in the ancient Middle East. My"},{"speaker":"Jon Taylor","startTime":23.85,"endTime":27.66,"body":"name is Jon. Each episode I talk"},{"speaker":"Jon Taylor","startTime":23.85,"endTime":27.66,"body":"to friends and colleagues, and"},{"speaker":"Jon Taylor","startTime":27.66,"endTime":31.05,"body":"get them to explain their work"},{"speaker":"Jon Taylor","startTime":27.66,"endTime":31.05,"body":"in a way we can all understand."},{"speaker":"Jon Taylor","startTime":32.759,"endTime":36.089,"body":"We take digital research"},{"speaker":"Jon Taylor","startTime":32.759,"endTime":36.089,"body":"resources for granted. The"},{"speaker":"Jon Taylor","startTime":36.089,"endTime":40.439,"body":"quantity and quality of data"},{"speaker":"Jon Taylor","startTime":36.089,"endTime":40.439,"body":"available is incredible. It's"},{"speaker":"Jon Taylor","startTime":40.439,"endTime":45.389,"body":"something that 20 years ago we"},{"speaker":"Jon Taylor","startTime":40.439,"endTime":45.389,"body":"could only have dreamed of. 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Alright, brilliant."},{"speaker":"Jon Taylor","startTime":1665.76,"endTime":1666.66,"body":"Well, thanks very much."},{"speaker":"Enrique Jiménez","startTime":1666.69,"endTime":1669.18,"body":"Well, thank you"},{"speaker":"Enrique Jiménez","startTime":1666.69,"endTime":1669.18,"body":"very much for having me, Jon. I"},{"speaker":"Enrique Jiménez","startTime":1669.18,"endTime":1672.6,"body":"would like to say as a"},{"speaker":"Enrique Jiménez","startTime":1669.18,"endTime":1672.6,"body":"conclusion that the eBL is open"},{"speaker":"Enrique Jiménez","startTime":1672.6,"endTime":1676.56,"body":"to collaborations with other"},{"speaker":"Enrique Jiménez","startTime":1672.6,"endTime":1676.56,"body":"cuneiformists. We have several"},{"speaker":"Enrique Jiménez","startTime":1676.56,"endTime":1680.31,"body":"collaborations going on or"},{"speaker":"Enrique Jiménez","startTime":1676.56,"endTime":1680.31,"body":"planned. 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