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So"},{"speaker":"Daniel Nicky","startTime":1798.42,"endTime":1801.72,"body":"I definitely would have if my"},{"speaker":"Daniel Nicky","startTime":1798.42,"endTime":1801.72,"body":"life is gone a different course,"},{"speaker":"Daniel Nicky","startTime":1801.72,"endTime":1804.75,"body":"I would have so many Christmas"},{"speaker":"Daniel Nicky","startTime":1801.72,"endTime":1804.75,"body":"parodies for you."},{"speaker":"Jon Taylor","startTime":1808.02,"endTime":1811.68,"body":"Thank you very much"},{"speaker":"Jon Taylor","startTime":1808.02,"endTime":1811.68,"body":"indeed. You've given us a lot to"},{"speaker":"Jon Taylor","startTime":1811.68,"endTime":1815.55,"body":"think about there. That song is"},{"speaker":"Jon Taylor","startTime":1811.68,"endTime":1815.55,"body":"fantastic. It really made my"},{"speaker":"Jon Taylor","startTime":1815.55,"endTime":1819.69,"body":"day. I know you put smiles on a"},{"speaker":"Jon Taylor","startTime":1815.55,"endTime":1819.69,"body":"lot of other people's faces too."},{"speaker":"Jon Taylor","startTime":1820.11,"endTime":1821.97,"body":"So thank you very much indeed."},{"speaker":"Daniel Nicky","startTime":1822.24,"endTime":1824.94,"body":"Oh, Jon, it's been"},{"speaker":"Daniel Nicky","startTime":1822.24,"endTime":1824.94,"body":"a pleasure. Thank you so much"},{"speaker":"Daniel Nicky","startTime":1824.94,"endTime":1826.98,"body":"for having me on your show."},{"speaker":"Daniel Nicky","startTime":1824.94,"endTime":1826.98,"body":"Thanks a lot."},{"speaker":"Jon Taylor","startTime":1830.02,"endTime":1832.87,"body":"Id also like to"},{"speaker":"Jon Taylor","startTime":1830.02,"endTime":1832.87,"body":"thank our patrons Tyler Russell,"},{"speaker":"Jon Taylor","startTime":1833.02,"endTime":1837.88,"body":"Enrique Jimenez, Haider"},{"speaker":"Jon Taylor","startTime":1833.02,"endTime":1837.88,"body":"al-Rekabi, Jana Matuszak, Nancy"},{"speaker":"Jon Taylor","startTime":1837.88,"endTime":1842.86,"body":"Highcock, Jay C, Rune"},{"speaker":"Jon Taylor","startTime":1837.88,"endTime":1842.86,"body":"Rattenborg, Woodthrush, Elisa"},{"speaker":"Jon Taylor","startTime":1842.92,"endTime":1847.57,"body":"Rossberger, and Mark Weeden. 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