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And for that"},{"speaker":"Matt Kirchner","startTime":2293.59,"endTime":2295.54,"body":"you should be really proud."},{"speaker":"Matt Kirchner","startTime":2293.59,"endTime":2295.54,"body":"We're proud that we were able to"},{"speaker":"Matt Kirchner","startTime":2295.54,"endTime":2298.84,"body":"have you on the tech ed podcast."},{"speaker":"Matt Kirchner","startTime":2295.54,"endTime":2298.84,"body":"It's been a great conversation"},{"speaker":"Matt Kirchner","startTime":2298.84,"endTime":2302.17,"body":"about third party credentials"},{"speaker":"Matt Kirchner","startTime":2298.84,"endTime":2302.17,"body":"about semiconductors about an"},{"speaker":"Matt Kirchner","startTime":2302.17,"endTime":2305.98,"body":"industry 4.0 and so on. We just"},{"speaker":"Matt Kirchner","startTime":2302.17,"endTime":2305.98,"body":"had a wonderful discussion. 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