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Survival By The Book: How to survive
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Welcome to the first episode of Survival By The Book, the podcast series where local librarians learn about how to prepare for emergency situations because being prepared shouldn't be complicated.
Have you ever been without power, caught in a flood, facing incliment weather first time or any other emergency situation but hadn't prepared for it or didn't know where to start?
Well lucky for you that's what this first episode is all about. Join us as we talk about what makes a situation an emergency, some practical skills to have, and ways to reduce/minimize feelings of panic until rescue or resolution. You also get a little background info about your local librarians and their experiences and expertise with emergency situations.
Recommended Readings:
Prepare your family for survival by Linda Loosli
The unthinkable: Who survives when disaster strikes – and why by Amanda Ripley
Find out more ways to be prepared by visiting:
Created by the Podcast Team at the Harris County Public Library.
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Podcast Team Members include: Beth Krippel, John Harbaugh, Mary Mink, Dylan Smith, Sadina Shawver, Alinda Mac, John Schaffer, Jennifer Finch, Katelyn Helberg, Darcy Casavant, Darla Pruitt and Nancy Hu
Have you always been curious about survivalism? Wanted to take a trip outdoors or into the wilderness, but didn't know what you need or how to prepare? Or maybe you're just someone who wants to be prepared for an emergency situation, but have no idea where to start. If any of these things sound like you, you've come to the right place. Welcome to HCPL's new podcast, Survival by the Book. Hi, and welcome to the inaugural episode of Survival by the Book, where we explore different survival scenarios, skill sets, hobbies, equipment, and much more to teach us all how to survive. I'm your host, Dylan, and today I'm joined by your co-hosts, John, Mary, and Caitlin.
SPEAKER_00So I'm Caitlin. I'm gonna be one of the contributors. I don't know how much I have to contribute though. Um I have an interest in this topic, but not any real like skills or experience. I think it's I think the interest, I I need to look back in my reading history and figure and pinpoint the exact point. Like The Road by Cormic McCarthy stands out. But I know, I know I read a bunch of YA dystopias before I read that, where I really have just always felt like I need to be prepared for the end of the world because it's gonna happen in my lifetime. Like I've just always felt this in my body a little bit. So yeah, there's always been an interest and a desire to be more of a prepper, but I haven't ever really gotten there for, you know, financial reasons, time reasons, all sorts of reasons where I just feel too busy and caught up in all the things. So yeah, I'm hoping that this podcast I will take some time to learn some skills and do some things.
SPEAKER_01I'm Mary, and I also I'm kind of middle ground, I guess. I kind of do know some things because I grew up as a scout, like 4-H and like doing these wilderness-prepared classes. And so I think some of this is going to start coming back to me. Some of it I kind of already did. I was thinking about how they taught us that you could waterproof matches using clear nail polish, which I don't think is the most foolproof way to do it. But I was 14. So they were probably just teaching us the safest way to do it. And I still actually I found one of the things that they taught us is like if you get stranded in the woods, you're going to have to find a way to feed yourself using the materials that you have. So they put out all these fabrics and they made us make slings because you're gonna have to hunt with the material that you're wearing. And I made mine out of jeans because for some reason I was like, that's what I'll be wearing when I'm camping. Which is the worst probably thing to wear. And anyway, so we practice like throwing rocks so that we could hunt. Um, I don't think that's gonna be very good, but anyway, it's all starting to come back to me. So I'm excited to learn more in an adult way.
SPEAKER_02And I just want to chime in and say I have zero experience. Like my the most experience I have was watching doomsday preppers on the History Channel when I was like a weed little yad. Lad. I don't know what a yad is. But yeah, so that's about all the experience that I have of these people on all varying different scales, preparing for lots of different, very different doomsday scenarios. And that's about all the experience I have, and outside of just like any other mainstream TV movie related stuff.
SPEAKER_04I'm John. I grew up in the Los Angeles area around in the foothills. My family went camping however so often, like however much my mom would tolerate it. And so, but I didn't really have a survival interest until I joined Civil Air Patrol. Civil Air Patrol is the official auxiliary of the Air Force, which has three main missions of aerospace education, the cadet program, and emergency services, which includes disaster relief and search and rescue. You can tell I've said this speech so many times. I kind of started with my general emergency services around 15, where that's where you pretty much become a ground team member for search and rescue. I also did the cadet survival training school uh when it was around 1617, where we basically stayed in the San Luis Obispo wilderness for three days and three nights with nothing but like two MREs. Every group got a knife and a length of paracords. So we had to make our own shelters, filter our own water, and then eat things that we usually wouldn't eat that we pretty much foraged from the local ecology. So I've been part of certain rescue teams in California and in Texas. And I also in my early 20s used to be lifeguard. So I took the you know, first responder type, first aid, CPR, AED, and things like that, which in California includes being able to um birth a baby because that happened on a beach one time. So now everyone has to do it.
SPEAKER_01Is this when you were a teen? Sorry, I shouldn't interrupt you, but this was the teen training?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, no, every every lifeguard. So you could be a 15-year-old person who is trying to get a job at a local pool over the summer, and you have to take the Title 22 training, which involves birthing children.
SPEAKER_01Wow, that was not my lifeguard training here in Texas.
SPEAKER_04So I do have a collected variety of different related hobbies, you know, cooking, digital fabrication, DIY home repairs, gardening, ham radio operation, hiking, marksmanship, navigation, reloading, sewing, and much, much, much more. I have gone fishing hunting and camping. I don't do it very often, but I do have the skills to be able to, you know, pull off fishing.
SPEAKER_02I just have a quick question. Do you do the what is it, the string fishing, where it's just you just have the fly fishing or anything like that? Right?
SPEAKER_04Regular reel and rod over like over to the side. Like my cousin in Canada taught me. But yeah, whatever skills I don't have, canning, jarring, baking, you know, mass couponing and stuff like that, my wife does have. So we're a power team.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Love that.
SPEAKER_04So some of the goals that we were thinking about addressing were bringing awareness to different survival scenarios that exist. You know, we've got a lot of things that happen here in Texas where it's like natural disasters and you know, just getting ready for stuff like that, giving suggestions for preparation and training. We're gonna try and be as accurate and factual with the information that we give, and we're also gonna have try to have some fun. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02And we will say that any information that we do have will be in the show notes, our description below. So feel free to take a look and educate yourselves as well.
SPEAKER_01I actually think I've been thinking about this a lot. I worked in a grocery store for a number of years, and one of those was when everybody was preparing for Harvey, and there were so many people that had no idea how to prepare for a hurricane, which I think is wild because I grew up in Houston and we get them fairly frequently. And so when we're thinking about this, I I think I keep going back to hurricanes because it was just so visceral. How many people just didn't even know what they needed to prepare and that they even needed water? They're like, oh, I'll have bottles of water, but then what about your plumbing? What about all the different reasons you need water that is not just so you can drink it sometimes?
SPEAKER_04Your pets.
SPEAKER_01Right, your pets. You have to brush your teeth. That takes the water that you think that you're gonna drink.
SPEAKER_04But most likely we'll have a water episode.
SPEAKER_01Right. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. There's a lot planned out, and you just kind of have to stick with us. So you may ask yourself, what is an immediate threat to life? So, what is the actual survival situation? Well, one definition is the immediate threat to life via air, shelter, water, or food that requires resourceful action and practical skills to manage risks and minimize feelings of panic until rescue or resolution.
SPEAKER_02This is my question, is just kind of like in the Harris County area, what would what situations would that fall under? Would it be like, let's say, or something that just pops into mind recently, is like there's been a lot of tornadoes recently in my memory. Yeah. So like if a tornado comes through and like just kind of wipes out everything, would that kind of classify as an immediate threat to life? Oh, or absolutely.
SPEAKER_04Because that's a a threat to shelter. If it takes out a water treatment facility, that's water. If it takes out all the grocery stores in the area, that's food. All of those, all of those things come into play. So you want to be prepared. I mean, you're gonna hear that word a lot. Since this is a survival preparedness type deal.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04There's a lot of different scenarios that happen. I mean, everybody's probably going, threat to air. What what does that even mean?
SPEAKER_00That made me think of like something that happens pretty often in like the deer park area is they have to shelter in place all the time when things happen at those oil refineries that get into the air and there's hazards that are quite dangerous.
SPEAKER_04So I live across the street from a nitrous oxide plant.
SPEAKER_00What?
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SPEAKER_03This is crazy.
SPEAKER_02See, and I will say, like, I will when I've been driving around Houston, like I've really just been noticing, or even like when I go to visit my partner's family in Monterey and stuff, they do have like a lot of factories and stuff like that. And there's not a lot of signage about what they do or what they have. So I just kind of always find myself glancing at them.
SPEAKER_04And that, you know, Houston is not zoned is wild because it's not even contained to an industrial area. You could have somebody's pallet facility right next to their house in a neighborhood, which is another reason why y'all need to be prepared for different stuff. Which is why we have this podcast. So you may also ask, what's the duration like? You know, what makes something short-term, medium-term, or long term? According to the Boreal Wilderness Institute, which is like a kind of a teaching facility over in Canada, they define that short term is one to four days. So most of our disasters within four days, you have power or you have a shelter, or you're able to get the basic needs met, you know, food, shelter, and water. That's 99% of most survival situations. Now, when you get into the medium term, which is like five to 25 days, that's where it's like a major, major, major. Like uh, I remember having neighbors saying Ike took out power for three and a half weeks.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Things like that, where you get a ripper hurricane versus a soaker. I mean, if you put yourself into that position, that's just bad luck and no planning. But there are plenty of natural disasters. I mean, look at Katrina. Like, you know, people couldn't get back to their houses for like three months.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Well, I mean, like at the Derecho, that was one that we, you know, hurricanes sometimes tornadoes, you got some sort of warning to prepare. The Derecho took us all by surprise. I mean, maybe there's like five people, not surprised, but the rest of us were like, wow, now I'm out of power for a week.
SPEAKER_04Or it was like something out of Star Wars. Right. Because it went from like Houston all the way to like Carolinas. Yeah. So there's also a bunch of different information on what would be considered a emergency or a side survival situation by Ready.gov. So that's our federal government, you know, FEMA planning. Everyone be aware of these different certain situations and circumstances. And they have hazard information sheets and they're readily available. You just have to go to ready.gov. Some of them, like flooding and hurricanes, are on their main page. So they've got a variety of different topics. So the ones that they have listed are like avalanche, cyber attack, earthquake, extreme heat, flood, hurricane, landslide, novel pandemic, power outage, thunder, storm, lightning and hail, tornado, tsunami, wildfire, volcano, and winter storm.
SPEAKER_00We'll forget the zombies too. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Oh, that's that's in the that's in the next section. Okay. So those are the hazard information sheets. They also have other pages which have like attacks on public places, biohazard exposure, drought explosions, chemical and hazardous materials, incidents, home fires, home safety, household chemicals, radiation. That's where those zombies come in. Severe weather, space weather, and recovering from a disaster. Space weather. I saw that face. No, no, no. They're more under radiation than pandemic.
SPEAKER_01Depends what kind of zombies you get, I guess.
SPEAKER_04All right. I'm surprised y'all aren't interested in space weather. I could imagine these weather.
SPEAKER_00I'm like, I just had a minor part of the zombies. Like solar flares?
SPEAKER_04Okay, solar flares that'll knock out communications and other like magnetic dependent things. So any, you know, satellites in the sky. Bye-bye, GPS. Yeah. Oh, yeah. GPS. Um, see, that was that was the beauty of G2 and G3 communications, is it wouldn't go down in solar flares, but G5, G6, G7 goes down in solar flares because it's satellite dependent as well as antenna dependent.
SPEAKER_00Could you explain what you just G5, G6? What are what are you what are those for the audience?
SPEAKER_04Those are the different frequencies in which our phones communicate on. So if you remember flip phones, original flip phones, we're talking about dual band and quad band, tri-band. And do you guys remember?
SPEAKER_02I'm sure anyone born after like 2004 will have no idea what you're talking about. Yeah. But hey, this is a good chance to research your vintage, quote unquote, items and stuff that your parents might have.
SPEAKER_04Okay. When I went to Taiwan, I had to make sure that my phone to get the SIM card that you actually put into it what had the correct bandwidth for the type of system that they used in Taiwan so that I could actually use it.
SPEAKER_02That's good to know.
SPEAKER_04I mean, with eSIMs now, you don't really have to do that anymore because everyone's in depending on which area of the world you're going to, is usually on 5G. So that's and then the 5G is the the amount of megahertz usually it takes to communicate your broadcast signal.
SPEAKER_02So one of the questions that we and we did have written down on our notebook was kind of what survival situations have you guys been in? And my question for John specifically is what's the I don't know if this is like an actual thing you've done, but like what's the longest survival situation you purposely put yourself in? Like when you went like camping or something like that. Or I don't know if that would qualify as a survival situation.
SPEAKER_04I mean, but CSDS was the longest. Three days, three nights. I don't purposely put myself into those situations because I don't want to. I mean, technically, this last hurricane, we were out of power for 3.5 days. So that could be the survival situation. And what I learned there is when you've got someone who has a chronic, you know, condition going on, you need power. Uh, and so in preparation for the next one, I bought a generator. So, you know, things like that, you're not always prepared to the max. You know, even me who spends a lot of time investigating these things. Um, beyond that, I mean, like one time um my wife and I went hiking and we passed over this um very dusty creek bed. Then we come back and it's it's you know, running water, like okay, so that big boom we heard was uh was a flash flood, apparently. Yeah, I mean it was only it was fast moving, but it was only six inches deep. So anything over six inches on fast moving water, you do not want to cross. It's better to wait it out. Um in this situation, I had rope and I had trekking poles. So I tied the rope to one tree, took me with the rope onto the other side using the trekking poles and attached it, used a second set of rope to make a safety harness for my wife, because you can do that, hooked her up on the carabiner onto the safety rope that was going across. And mind you, this this creek is only about maybe 15 feet, maybe, but you don't mess around with fast moving water because she almost ate it twice. Yeah, so it was a good thing that we had a harness and we had a rope and everything was hitched up and tied exactly where it needed to be. Then she basically just slid the rope and the harnessed bit back to me over the rope, and then I went untied one side, tied myself up, and went back across.
SPEAKER_02So, my question is that the did the sliding back go smoothly? Just because I just think of one time we went like ziplining or whatever, and my partner's sister got stuck in the middle. So I'm like, what do you do in that situation? What happens if she slides it back and it's just kind of like stuck? Do you just kind of shimmy the rope until it gets back?
SPEAKER_04Or yes, okay. It's easy yeah, pretty much. I mean, it was a small amount of space, you know, so that I wasn't worried. I had already crossed it being attached, so I had already known that, not to be overconfident, but I had already known that it's not as bad, but if you it it could be so, I mean, stuff like that. I don't put myself in situations that preparation is the key to everything. Um, the first rule of learning how to fly is that you it could be a beautiful day, you don't need to go flying. That's the first rule. You don't actually need to go flying. So no matter what you're you know, if yeah, we went to Yellowstone and half of it was like had like snow everywhere. So we couldn't go to certain areas because of the snow. Well, I'm not gonna risk just like, oh, well, I wanted to go there, so I'm just gonna go there. No, we found other things to do. Yeah, yeah. There's a million like places to stop off where you see all these like cool little like things. So I suggest going to Yellowstone personally. It's a it's a great experience. Uh we would hit up all the visitor centers and saw a bunch of stuff that we wouldn't have otherwise. But you know, so you don't have to do everything that you planned.
SPEAKER_01You get that comment that people like to leave online all the time, like completely optional, by the way. You don't have to do this. Yeah. But these are the scenarios where you don't have an option. That's really what we're talking about, I guess. Yes, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. So I don't purposefully put myself into situations where I mean, the reason why I was a good lifeguard is because I solved problems before they began. I've never had to rescue anyone. Have I had a lot of close close calls? Yes. Lots of little kids swimming out in the middle, being like, okay, come this way, come this way, come this way, come this way. Now get to the other end of the pool. You know, and things like that. You know. The only emergency situation that I had was an older person cut their foot on the bottom, and they were on blood thinners. So had to call the paramedics, but like getting them up out, elevating the leg itself, and then also, you know, cleaning it up and packing it to the best of our ability with what we had from our first aid kit, which we'll talk about for first aid kits later, and things like that. You know, you don't purposefully put yourself into situations. Yeah, that's the whole planning and mitigation portion.
SPEAKER_01As far as survival scenarios go, mine have all been weather-based. Um, I've camped a lot, but it's always been at national parks, not national parks, but state parks. So there's plenty of rangers around, plenty of other campers around, and also no disaster situations that I had to deal with immediately. Uh so I've lived a few days without power, which tear, you know. That's so survivable.
SPEAKER_04Oh no, books. Right, exactly.
SPEAKER_01Oh no, I have to read. No, it was kind of cruel. During Harvey, uh, I lived in a like a little small community in a house, and so the power line. Well, what happened is a transformer blew, so we all lost power. And then we all got power back, and then the power line behind our house went down and only took out our few houses. So I got to watch our neighbors with their beautiful power as I lived longer without power, and that sucked, but I it was very survivable. We had power, like little power banks to power our phone so we could still communicate with people. I had to spend all my time reading. It was a gas-powered home, so we would just use a lighter to turn on the flames, and then we would make coffee. Like we had so many luxuries.
SPEAKER_04We'll talk about cooking and things like that. So you don't carbon monoxide poison yourself. Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_01We didn't do it that often. We mostly ate cold food. Um, but I would like just for a little bit, which yeah, I know I could have killed myself, but I survived.
SPEAKER_04No, no. I mean, that stuff's designed to be burnt inside.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_04It's when you bring your barbecue inside. Or When you bring like one of the hot plates, like you see in the cooking shows where it's like gas, but they're inside, it's like uh-uh, that you're not supposed to do that. That's where you get that's that's natural gas is different than butane.
SPEAKER_01Right.
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SPEAKER_01Anyway, that's that's mine.
SPEAKER_00My experiences are very similar. I think the the hardest one was for us was winter storm Urie. Um when we were without power for like 36 hours. Yeah. And just just just staying warm was the hardest thing. Also had an 18-month-old at the time. So it was just like yeah, it was kind of scary. It got to like 42 degrees in the house, I think.
SPEAKER_04See, and then there's some times where you just need to bug out.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it was well, it was the driving conditions though were very difficult at the time because the roads were still quite icy. Uh we did finally on the third day drive up to my parents in Conroe um slowly because the roads were very icy. Um, and then by the time we got there, my neighbors had texted me and our power was back. So we went back home pretty soon after that. But yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Take a hot shower, yeah, get some hot food.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. Right.
SPEAKER_02Personally for me, I guess like the most recent one was was right around the time of barrel. Um, just because basically when that was kind of hitting um my partner and her family and her grandma, we were all getting ready to kind of like go on a cruise. Um, so we were all I say around barrel, but it was like a couple weeks, I think, or maybe like we just had a really bad rain in the Cyprus area. And that week they came to stay with us for the week, and basically that whole area had lost power really bad. Um, and so we didn't, again, me and my partner very nude and just the whole prepping, even just living in a home, because normally we rented an apartment and stuff like that. So we didn't really have anything prepared. Like we didn't have, like, we didn't have a generator, we didn't have any plan on what food do we actually have stored? What can we eat? Um what's in what's refrigerated, what's canned, no, yeah, exactly. We didn't have any any idea about that. And then my partner's grandma was also happened to be with us, and so she was very kind of like delicate. I'm sorry if you listen to this, you're not delicate, you're a strong woman. But she was a little bit more because she because we less resilient, yeah, less resilient to the heat, because this is our first time in Houston, too, because they haven't they haven't been to Houston too much. They mostly stayed when they would come to visit, they'd be in low radio and stuff like that, and then go back. Um, so the humidity there is compared here to compare to over there, is a lot different, and people they get a hot hot a lot faster and all that stuff. So just trying to manage that, also because we were only two people with six, seven people in the house at the time. We were like, do we have enough food for everyone? Um, and then also like all the gas stations were out of gas. So then we were like, well, now we can't really we have to manage on when we actually go out and drive and looking for stuff and all that stuff.
SPEAKER_04And whose car, which one's the most fuel efficient? How much the the cost per weight? Do we take people with us because they're bored out of their minds?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, exactly. And it's like luckily for for me, like I said, like my my stepdad has been is a kind of like not say prepper in that full sense, but he is prepared for things. So like he had multiple generators, so he was able to bring a portable generator for us that we were thankfully able, he was like, You can connect a couple things, it can run your fridge and it can run a couple fans. That's about that's about it. And we're like, okay, that's fine, that's all we need. So that way we can store food and everything like that. And that's where it really kind of dawned in on me and us. Again, when this happened, I was probably only like 24 at the time, like two, three years out of the college. Still a bang, still we laughed. Then that's when I started to realize that everything kind of like my I seen my stepdad do growing up has been like that preparedness and all that stuff. And I was like, oh, okay. So it wasn't just stuff that he just nonchalantly just like, hmm, you know what, this could be nice to have. It was more like he was putting thoughts into the future.
SPEAKER_04I just happen to want 12 gallons of water.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah. Um, you know, these things that you think as a child that you take for granted or you see, and you're like, oh, this is just something everyone has and something that everyone thinks about, and it's not, you know, it's him actually, you know, like also him being a first or like a police, a police officer and stuff. Probably had a little bit to do with it. Um just a bit. But it's you know, it made me realize like this stuff is important. This is stuff that I need to start thinking about, which is why I wanted to also be a part of this podcast because I'm learning with you guys. I am, like I said, a very relatively young guy trying to learn some good first hand basics about how to survive in Houston and situations that you might not be expected for. As you're coming of age, you might find yourself in more without the support of your parents or a close network behind you. And you know, we're all here learning.
SPEAKER_00That's what we're hopefully here to do.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, hence the increase in tornadoes.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um like shelf stable because especially with the way at the beginning of last year with all like the tariffs and like the food costs. We're like, let's get it now, and it'll keep. So for some reason we're stuck or the prices get so high. We at least have food and nutrient-rich food, yeah.
SPEAKER_04So gotta get that Costco membership, right? Or or whatever you whatever you know, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. But it got a little hard because we live in an apartment, and then it was like, well, we can't talk about that much food.
SPEAKER_04We can't have that much food.
SPEAKER_01We only have so much to mate.
SPEAKER_04Oh, I I remember that when my wife and I were younger in California, she did the extreme couponing, and we had like a quote unquote garage, which was more like a like a six by ten like shed. Yeah, that thing was packed the gills with canned food, toilet paper, paper towels. And I'm like, we don't even use that many paper towels.
SPEAKER_02Caylin, I heard you have some, you might have some interesting book recommendations for we all have book recommendations. Yeah, I know Mary brought some too. Some in the system, some in the not.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So we're not gonna mention all the ones out of the system. You can go get those yourselves. Maybe I'll put them in the show notes. Who knows?
SPEAKER_01Um, I brought When the Grid Fails by Kai Furneau. I brought uh How to Survive a Zombie Apocalypse, basically. I think I got that title wrong. I should go grab it. Uh, by Max Brooks. The Zombie Survival Guide by Max Brooks, The Complete Protection from the Living Dead, and then How to Survive a Sharknado by Andrew Schaefer. Which both of those are in the system, but digital copies on how to survive a sharknado. Get your Libby.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I was searching this morning. There's hundreds, there's hundreds of books in Libby, really, and and there's quite a few in print as well. Um the two that I was pulling out for special consideration. One is The Prepared Home by Melissa George. I really enjoyed I checked it out in 2021, according to my Libby reading statistics, and I had to like it was a little overwhelming at the time. I had to like put this away and like this is goals, but I don't have time for this right now. I really enjoyed it though, the way like it's framed as kind of a home organization book and very like focused on aesthetics a little bit, but very hardcore into the prepping, which was sort of an interesting way to tackle it. And then the other one I saw this morning was low-cost emergency planning, a DIY guide to family disaster preparedness. So I enjoyed the low-cost budget aspect for that one too.
SPEAKER_04The one that I really liked was prepared by Mike Clover. It goes over a lot of different circumstances, as well as it gives you like straight-up lists, like consider this, this, this, and this. Now, granted, if you in your first aid kit, you don't feel like you need uh an Israeli compression bandage, as well as hemostatic gauze, as well as a chest seal, because you may or may not understand what a sucking chest wound is. Um, if that's too extreme for you, you can also be like, I'm good. He also gives like his rig loadout of his truck that he has that's like a Ford F-150 with all of this, all of this gear. And I read that and I shared it with my wife, and she's like, We're not getting that. And I'm like, I don't want that. I'm not a former Navy SEAL CIA operative that may or may not have somebody from another country try to track me down. I work at the library. Now they'll complain about fines, fees, or anything like that, but they're not going to be hunting me down and be like, you didn't you didn't give me that card in the right amount of time.
SPEAKER_02All right. And I think that'll be all for this first episode. Thank you guys for joining us for the Using Our Library Voices survival series. And we hope to see you all in the next episode. Bye everyone. Bye. Bye. Thank you for joining us on this episode of Survival by the Book. I just want to remind everyone that while some of us may have more survival experience than the others, none of us are survival experts. We are, in fact, librarians. So if you would like to do your own research, preferably at your local HCPL library, or see where we're pulling our information, tips, and research from, please check out the resources located in the description of this episode.