2025 End of Season: A Year of Various Gooses

After a small hiatus we finally bring you the much anticipated end of season recap podcast for the Ponder Pick6 NFL Fantasy Football League. 

This includes the PonderBowl recap, the results of our Hot Takes, this year's class for the Hall of Fame and the hotly awaited awards for the season (including the inaugural Baby-Change Walk-Off award). And did you really think I'd let you off the whole season without a song? 

Let us know how your season's panned out and who won your awards on Twitter / "X" @podcastPP6 or by email at PP6podcast@gmail.com

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:46

Welcome to the Ponder Pic 6 podcast and welcome back. After some time, I think the Ponder Bowl was on New Year's Eve, and it's now March, but we are here with the much promised and much anticipated end of season roundup. I am sat in the Dave Benson Phillips Lounge with Ed. Hello. How are you doing? Alright. Pumped. Pumped? No. No? Okay, cool. And once again, we have the commissioner. Also slightly pumped. Slightly pumped. Slightly pumped. I the phrase slightly pumped is not great. Very pumped. Okay, better. Really excited. Good. Great season. It was a great season. I'm glad you said that. We are coming to you with a much overdue recap of the Ponderbowl final, but more importantly, as everyone expects at the end of the season, the Hall of Fame, the hot takes outcomes, and the awards show. That's all anyone cares about. That's all anyone cares about. So let's not spend too long on the first bit and get to the bit that people want to hear. But I feel like we should offer the guys dues. He won the Ponderbowl. Gobblers are the 2025 Ponderbowl champions. Yeah, congrats. Congrats to him. Congratulations. And it was an exciting final, not a close finish, but over the course of the game, was interesting. I don't remember it. Fair enough. Comes.

SPEAKER_02 2:15

I think the Gobblers are arguably a wire-to-wire winner. We predicted early on they'd be in the Ponderball.

SPEAKER_01 2:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:23

And they saw it through to the end. They won it. Do you know who they beat in the Ponderball? Yes, they beat Trav. Yeah. They beat Floating Head Doctors. Yep. Not the Black Sheep Boys.

SPEAKER_01 2:35

So we had two teams in the Ponderball, one who's won one before, one who's won two before. Trav was going for his third win to reach the mountain of three-time winners and didn't quite get it done. That Gobblers team, if people can remember from months ago, be Jan Robinson, Kyron Williams, Jonathan Taylor. I think he had Trevor Lawrence in at the end, because I think Trevor Lawrence has just got the Jags another pod the bowl. Jesus. Unbeatable. Yeah, from start to finish, he was the best team in the league. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So a deserved winner. And, you know, we'll we'll talk about auto-drafting, I am sure, when we come on to talk about the draft picks. He was an auto-drafted team. But I think from what I saw, GM Goose is paying way more attention this season than he ever has before. And I think that win is creditable to him as a GM. Definitely.

SPEAKER_02 3:30

I think he can take a lot more pride in this victory than his first one. Obviously, every Ponderbowl win counts, but this one more so than the first one in my eyes.

SPEAKER_01 3:39

Yeah, fair enough. Well, and he's he is matching GM Trav now as another two-time winner. So there are two people snapping at the heels of the three Ponderbowls. You'll never win another. I probably won't. But we'll see. Because anything could happen next season. Yeah. Joe might win it. Even the swines could get another one. I mean, anything could happen. But definitely not the Chiefs. Well, it feels it seems unlikely. It is very and the the jiggles will be heavily marred by injuries. I should say though, on that, we have said on here before that the Commissioners Chiefs have never made the playoffs.

SPEAKER_03 4:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:17

Actually, last season was the Chiefs' third playoff appearance. Really? Well, I thought it was second, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:23

I thought it was second as well. Yeah. So 2021-2022. But still never won a playoff game.

SPEAKER_01 4:28

But still never won a playoff game.

SPEAKER_02 4:29

And never will. But going back to the Ponderbolt, yeah, Goose uh thoroughly deserved his win. 157 points to 116. Trav clearly didn't play his best game, and the Goblers absolutely smashed it. They had the highest game score of the final week, so deserved winners.

SPEAKER_01 4:50

Yeah, and the floating heads, look, I I mean I'm not gonna say they didn't deserve to be there because absolutely they did. They won the right games, right? But they had a couple of real down weeks over the course of the season. He didn't deserve to be there. Alright, well you can say that. I'm not gonna say that. I I think he absolutely did. The scientist knows what he's doing, and he got himself to a Ponder Bowl final again, but didn't get it over the line.

SPEAKER_02 5:11

Yeah, I mean Trav was unlucky in the Ponderbowl with Drake London getting just a point, 1.4 points. The big takeaway for me is Goose got almost 80 points from his big three RBs that John's already mentioned, and it makes me suddenly re-evaluate uh next season's draft. I've always thought in the PPR league WRs would weigh forward, but actually a trio of good RBs is enough to carry you to victory.

SPEAKER_01 5:34

So do you know what draft bit you've got next season?

SPEAKER_02 5:36

I think I'm eight. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 5:38

Do we all know what draft pit we've got next season? No, we yet to choose, I guess. Because people have the people have in the pick of where they'd rather kick a cross. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:46

But you think maybe a a C Mac, a Jameer Gibbs, a Sakwan might be first off the board, definitely an argument a top pass catching RB, Gibbs, Robinson, C Mac over a Chase or a Jefferson or someone like that. Can definitely win you a Ponebo, as Goose has shown. Yep. Just go air TM first pick. That would be bold. Stupid, some might say.

SPEAKER_01 6:09

But possibly rewarded. Worth the risk. Anyway, we'll see. That's all to come at the other end of this year. What we have to do now, with congratulations to Mr. Goose, is move on to our other end of season admin. And starting with the Hall of Fame and the Hall of Shame. The end of season podcast from last year is still there if you want to go back and hear everyone who's already in. Do you think anyone's gonna go back and check it out? No, absolutely not. Are you? No, I've got it written down here.

SPEAKER_02 6:35

Yeah, okay, fine. I think the Hall of Shame is far more interesting. Right. Have we got anybody as a nominee for the Hall of Shame?

SPEAKER_01 6:41

No, we don't. And and it currently stands and will remain as Aaron Rogers and Ian, and I like that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:49

It's a level of degeneracy that doesn't lend itself to degenerate.

SPEAKER_01 6:54

We might talk about this a little bit with a couple of people. There's a potential inductee, but look. Hall of Fame first, and my first name on the list is David Montgomery, and that went on the list before I realised we already inducted him last year. But I think this man has a good case for being the second two-time inductee to the Hall of Fame. I'm not with you on this one. No?

SPEAKER_02 7:17

He deserves a place in the Hall of Fame. Is it because he has three Ponderbowl titles and he's the only person who has that?

SPEAKER_01 7:23

He has four. He's got four. And he's the only person who has four. And he won it with the Goblers this year. And he's been on teams consistently forever.

SPEAKER_02 7:32

Yeah, but I don't think he is the difference maker. Well I mean, he didn't actually start in the Ponderbolt. No, but he helped them get there. He did help them get there, but he didn't have a starting. I'm with Ed. I don't think he gets too much.

SPEAKER_01 7:44

Do you think he's already got his plaudits for being in there? I think so. If he wasn't, it's I think it's a shame he was already in there because this is the I think he deserves to make it. Well, let's then say that Minty has justified his inclusion in the Hall of Fame last year. If he wins another Ponderbowl. Oh, if he wins five, then absolutely. If if the Ponderbowl winner next year has Minty, who is now a Texan?

SPEAKER_02 8:08

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 8:09

On their team, then Yay gets his second. So we've spoken about what automatically gets you in the Hall of Fame. Yeah. And we've said three Ponder Bowls probably should get you in there. Yeah, and that's probably what did it for him last year. I think that's right. Yeah. Does four get you a second induction? Or is it five lets you keep a trophy like the World Cup? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Alright, fine. Um so if Minty gets a fifth Ponder Bullet, he gets the ponder. We just give him the Hall of Fame. He has to decide who's in it or not. Yeah. Alright, fair enough. Um it's a teardrop locket. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, cool. Johnny Taylor is the next name on my list. And now that this year was his second, but he has been in the mix and instrumental every year. He's played in this league.

SPEAKER_02 8:51

I think he's the obvious candidate.

SPEAKER_01 8:53

And there's a good argument for him to go in there. He still has a long way ahead of him, one would hope. But you think he's done enough so far to get him in the Hall of Fame? I I expect it if he doesn't go in this year, I don't think he'll be going in. Okay, interesting. You don't see him meeting the heights he's hit already. No. I and you you think back at other running backs who've had a couple of really good seasons. I mean, the the the major name there is Derek Henry, who is still not in a Hall of Fame. And he never will be never will be. Probably won't be, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:25

Yeah. No, I I'm very comfortable with JT making the height. I think he goes in.

SPEAKER_01 9:29

Okay, JT goes in. Good. Well deserved. Two names coming up who are players who have retired this season and who have been staples of fantasy teams for basically the length of the league, if not, you know, slightly less, because they only came in more recently. Adam Thielen, Mike Williams. Are we saying it's one or the other, or possibly both? It could be both. It could be both.

SPEAKER_02 9:57

Could be neither.

SPEAKER_01 9:58

Now, I and I I know we talked a little bit about this earlier. What I will say for this is Adam Thielen does not have a Ponder Bowl. Mike Williams does. He won it with the floating heads.

SPEAKER_02 10:08

Well, as we know from a real Hall of Fame, winning the big prize, it doesn't necessarily have to happen for you to get in the Hall of Fame. Sure, sure. I I'd be I'm very happy to put Adam Thielen in. I think he's been a very good fancy player for many years.

SPEAKER_01 10:23

He's been a fixture of teams every year. I think we've been playing it. And he's a player I always look at and I'm like, ah, why didn't I pick up Adam Thielen when he was going on the waivers? Yeah. But he's always been on the waivers a lot of the time. Recently. Yes. Yes. Not back in the day, not when he was, yeah. So part of the reason I like Mike Williams going on there is that he has always been he's been on the waivers loads over the years. We have talked about Mike Williams a lot on this podcast on why does someone have him or why hasn't someone picked him up? Yep, and then he's there, and then he's the next big thing, and then he's he sort of does it and then doesn't, and he's always injured. Yeah, yeah. We speak about him a lot. But he's been a fixture on fantasy teams and he's been relevant to the discussion the entire time. I think they both could go in. I'm happy to put both of them in.

SPEAKER_02 11:10

I'd probably just plump for Thielon, but I wouldn't object.

SPEAKER_01 11:14

Well, so that's interesting. So I would go Mike Williams over Thielen. I would as well I would purely because if this is a hall of fame for our fantasy league, who who gets the most airtime and he he floats on teams, people pick him up, who's been on the most teams? Because Thielon most until the last two years, he would have been drafted early, and he's on that team for the season. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Williams has been here, there, and everywhere. Yeah, yeah. He's been picked up, he's probably gone undrafted a couple of years.

SPEAKER_02 11:43

Is Mike Williams why Mike Williams not Gabe Davis?

SPEAKER_01 11:46

Gabe Davis is already for the season.

SPEAKER_02 11:48

Oh, okay. I didn't realise.

SPEAKER_01 11:52

Sammy Watkins for almost exactly the same reason. Let's put them both in. Done. Adam Thielen, Mike Williams, congratulations, welcome to the Hall of Fame. I've got Darnell Washington on my list. I'll be honest, why? So that's two different reactions. Let's go with your why first. What do you mean, why? What's he done? He's a giant tight end who blows people down.

SPEAKER_02 12:12

So for hilarious.

SPEAKER_01 12:13

He's had three seasons in the NFL. Maybe two, maybe three? Definitely two, I couldn't. Yeah. But last year he came alive in a game. As an impact player, as a guy who doesn't catch a ball that often, but when he does, you notice it. And this is my question, because I know, Ed, you are a big proponent of it. Oh. And you, Commissioner, have just asked why is he on here? Has he done enough yet? I I'm I'm gonna say I don't think he has done enough yet. Fine. I don't think he has. Fine. But all he needs is if he does one mental thing this year. Another big game. Another big one game. That's all he needs. One flattening of linebacker. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:51

Yeah. I think if you're lining up the stats, he's off the charts in the intangible bracket. Uh-huh. That's what you're saying. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:58

We're not talking about a Ponderbowl winner or a Super Bowl winner or a sensational legacy tight end. We're talking about someone who is interesting for the podcast. I don't think he's ever been drafted on a team. No, of course not. Well, I don't see I don't think he's ever been picked off the wave of one. He's never been on a team.

SPEAKER_02 13:14

Okay, that's our challenge to Darnell Washington. Yeah. One more mental season you get in. No, one more mental play. One more mental play.

SPEAKER_01 13:21

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fine. Alright. And then, as is becoming tradition for the Hall of Fame, we're not putting Travis Kelsey in. He had a good season. Not good enough. He wasn't tight M1. And I don't know that he'll ever get that again. No. But it does feel like we should put someone Kelsey related in. Now Jason Kelsey's already in there. Kylie Kelsey's already in there. Mrs. Taylor Kelsey is a discussion maybe for next year. Next year. It would sort of be mad if she took his name given how famous he is. But it's not going to be Travis. Kelsey Grammar? He's in. In. I mean, I beast. Specifically as Beast. As Beast. But you don't but you're discounting the Fraser of the whole thing. Frasier when he's got the really long back mullet. The bald on top with the long hair at the back. Early Fraser. And then Beast, which is also kind of receding on top long back mullets. Early Frasier, Beast. Okay. Both beast mode. Yeah. Very different ways. In very different ways. But no, no Reese in Fraser. Okay. But that doesn't discount him from the Hall of Fame. No, no, no. But he's he's he's in a time loop. Alright, five, five, five.

SPEAKER_02 14:31

Yeah, I mean he's in. But talking of discounting from the Hall of Fame, what do we do with a couple of inductees?

SPEAKER_01 14:39

Yeah, okay. So Kelsey Graham has gone in for services to Fraser with a mullet and the beast. Done. There are a couple of people who are currently in the Hall of Fame who I think we do need to talk about. One is Antonio Brown and the other one is Justin Tucker. Oh no, then we talk about Antonio Brown. He's in. Tony Brown is the only current two-time Hall of Famer. You can't take one off him. I don't think we do take one off him because he's in there for what he did and had done at that point.

SPEAKER_02 15:07

Do you not think for each person you kill you lose one in Zap T.

SPEAKER_01 15:11

So here's the thing. He hasn't killed anyone. He's up for attempted murder. Oh.

SPEAKER_00 15:17

He shot someone in the neck?

SPEAKER_01 15:19

He shot someone. He skimmed someone in the neck or the ear or something. And he's currently facing charges in the States for attempted second-degree murder with a self-defence defence. Okay. Right? The guy was in his house, I think, and he shot near him, and shot too near him is the story. We don't know at the point of recording this podcast what's gonna happen. I'm gonna say this. If Antonio Brown is convicted of attempted second-degree murder, he goes in the hall of shame. Oh, I think And he remains in the Hall of Fame. Our first Hall of Shame, Hall of Fame player. Does he remain in the Hall of Fame twice? Yes. Okay. We give him all the accolades, we give him Hall of Fame twice for what he did up to that point, and we give him Hall of Shame because he shot a guy. I think that's probably fair. Right? Done. I think I for what it's well, I think he'd be happy with that result. I'm sure he would. Justin Tucker. I'm not saying what is better or worse than shooting a guy, but he seems like a creep. It's more seedier. Yeah. Sixteen misuses is too many misuses. I'd say one or two too many. I would say one is too many. But I'm gonna say sixteen is definitely too many. I mean, I I don't I think it's not a question of whether he's in or out the hall of fame, it's whether it does he go Hall of Fame straight into shame. I don't want to put him in the hall of shame, but I do want to remove him from the Hall of Fame.

SPEAKER_03 16:53

I agree.

SPEAKER_01 16:54

Fine, done. And ultimately, with no disrespect to the Commissioner, because he didn't express a view either way, but it's our podcast, so done.

SPEAKER_03 17:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:01

Uh fine. Justin Tucker comes out. And no matter what he's done, he's not as bad as Ian. Well, uh not yet. Yeah, yeah. It does beg the question to the remaining kickers in the NFL, what you're gonna do next year, because we now don't have a kicker in the Hall of Fame. We don't. Brandon Aubrey, I'm looking at you. He he's the the the the beacon, the shining light.

SPEAKER_02 17:21

Third this year, first last year. Like he wasn't first last year. Boswell was first last year. Aubrey has never finished as the top kicker, despite his vaulted reputation.

SPEAKER_01 17:31

Just a huge rain on my parade. I don't know. But it doesn't it fine in many ways it doesn't matter because it's it's it's we we speak about him more than any other kicker. Jung Hoku was had a chance. Yep. Uh Blankenship had a chance. Blankenship had a chance. He had a real chance. Blankenship is trying to get a chance again. I'll be honest, I'd rather put Blankenship in the Hall of Fame than any other kicker in the Blinken's.

SPEAKER_02 17:54

The first Hall of Fame kicker will be Cam Nittle.

SPEAKER_01 17:57

Oh, I hope so. I mean he's he's he's making moves so far this season, but he's a rookie, can't go in. No, not yet. Fine. He'll get there. Alright, so our 2025 Hall of Fame inductee class is Johnny Taylor, Alan Thielen, Mike Williams, and Kelsey Graham. Seems right. Yep. And Justin Tucker comes in. That seems like a balanced Hall of Fame class. Fine. Moving on. Hot takes. Hot takes. Now, we ended last season with what was essentially a two-party fight, with Ed having four successes, me having two. I lost. I have started this season as I ended last season. But we have the first triple threat hot takes starting with Craig's. Now yours were first one stack is dead. No top ten QBs will be on the same team as a top ten WR or RB. And there were loads. There were so many. Well, three to be specific.

SPEAKER_02 18:56

It was a good thing. I'm surprised it was just three to be specific. There were a couple of other close ones. Yeah. And and Stafford got there were two different receivers. Yeah, yeah. It wasn't close. No. Bad hot take.

SPEAKER_01 19:04

Fine. So that one goes two kickers. I mean it was it was arguably. Scorch it. Second one, two kickers would be the top 60 players at the end of the season. Now, this was clarified on the podcast we did as top 60 skill position. W R R B tie end.

SPEAKER_02 19:19

Not even that, just as what I said was that you would you could have a kicker as you rather than one of those in your WR slot. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:28

So it was a it would be. It was W R R B at least. Yes. But yeah, it did come to fruition. I can't remember who it was now.

SPEAKER_02 19:36

Uh Jason Myers got 189 points. Yeah. Which was enough to be RB24 and WR27, I think. Something like that. So spent on really. So comfortably inside top 60. And it was a hot take because that's the first season and the last three seasons that's happened. So yeah, I'll take the win.

SPEAKER_01 19:57

And then your third one, which was bananas at the time, and very difficult to understand, but I've summed it, I've tried to sum it up as a first or second draft pick from each team will be out for at least one game, but not on IR.

SPEAKER_02 20:09

Yeah, I think that's a fair summary, and it was a loss.

SPEAKER_01 20:13

But apparently only the deflators didn't have that.

SPEAKER_02 20:15

Only the deflators, mainly because actually, and and this bit I hadn't accounted for, in the last couple of weeks, there were a few teams who I mean, a few teams in our league who didn't bother to set the lineup correctly, so there were a few inactive players there. Right.

SPEAKER_01 20:28

So I still don't know how hot a take that was. No, no one's. Because you could go back over the last three seasons and find out it happened every single time.

SPEAKER_02 20:37

No one ever will I'd like to take this point to apologise to the league for such a sh hot take. Um I'll I'll do better next season. I think it needs to be a new thing every year though, where when this eventually happens, I I take a different stance. We'll just consign this to the history books and never look at it again.

SPEAKER_01 20:56

Fair enough. And your fourth hot take was that a Warren will make the playoffs, and it happened. It did. Well, sheet boys, congratulations, big John Warren. You have made Craig's fourth hot take a success.

SPEAKER_02 21:07

Yeah, I mean it actually it doesn't seem that hot a take now, but at the time it really was.

SPEAKER_01 21:12

Well, no, and at the time I think we were very much focused on the fact that the Warren brothers were so far away from a playoff, and that came to fruition. But I don't think we considered three teams going through from the east, and one of those being the Black Shoe Boys. Yeah, absolutely. But fair enough. I'm gonna do yours next, Ez, because we'll save the worst to last. First one, Bijan will not be a top five running back. Clear loss. Close, very clear loss. He was the second RB on the season. Close but no cigar. Second one, tight end finishes as a top 12 WR. Well, that Trey McBride absolutely smashed. He would have been WR five. Yeah, it was unbelievable. Yeah. Unreal season from Trey McBride and so clearly far away from any other tight end in terms of scoring.

SPEAKER_02 21:56

How many more seasons like that has he got to have before he's Hall of Fame?

SPEAKER_01 22:00

I mean he I feel maybe he should have been in the discussion now, but it's early doors for him. But yes. He also won a Ponderbowl. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So he did, he won the Ponderball.

SPEAKER_02 22:09

So if he's if he's a number one tight end again next season.

SPEAKER_01 22:12

I mean he's in the discussion for sure. Okay. Third one. A player drafted outside of round five will be a top five RB and top five WR. What I will say for this is when you did the hot take, you started with just running backs, and we bullied you into doing wide receivers as well. The weird thing is it worked for the wide receivers, but it didn't work for the running backs. I can't believe there's not a running back who's uh up there. Four of the top five were first round picks. The other one was Jonathan Taylor, who was round two. I thought one would sneak in, might be an injury. Yeah. So that is a loss, but then your fourth one is an auto-draft team will win the ponderbowl. Gobblers. So that's another one that right now doesn't feel like a hot take because Gobblers were so good. But it's such a crab shoot as to who's gonna win the ponderball that it's yeah. I also think at the time that we recorded this, certainly the Central and the East were so close, and remained pretty close right till the end, that there was a chance the Goblers weren't gonna make it. Right? Ditto with the basic Wii Wacker didn't end up going to the game. Well, I think the Goblers were also at that point the only autodraft team in with a vague shadow, everyone just sort of ignoring everyone else. So look, there you go. That's two for the Kabish and two for Ed. To mind, Jonathan Taylor will end the season with nine 30 plus point games. He got six, which is not bad.

SPEAKER_02 23:35

It's enough to make the Hall of Fame, but not enough to make the Hamlet.

SPEAKER_01 23:39

I should have toned that down a little bit. Second one, no first round draft pick will be in the top five combined running backs for WRs. I I don't know what I was thinking about. Like obviously, but like four of the top five were first round. That might be the most mental hot take of all time. Well, we'll come on to that in a second. My third one was of the top five tight ends, all of them will be or will have been a swine at some point. Now. Okay. That season or any season. Any season. Now I know I lost that because Tyler Warren's in there and he's never been a swine because this is his rookie year. It was close. He was on the Black Sheep Boys and he was on mine. Well, I tried to get it really. I know you did. I know you didn't. Now, my question to you is I know McBride's been on your team.

unknown 24:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:25

Ferguson certainly has.

SPEAKER_01 24:26

Because well, he was untrainable from you. Yeah, from me, yeah. Okay, so Ferguson's definitely has, yeah. Travis Kelsey? Yeah. At some point. I don't think in this league. Yeah, I think that's right. Carl Pitts was my other one.

SPEAKER_02 24:41

Carl Pitts finishes a top five tight end.

SPEAKER_01 24:43

Finishes the second Carl Pitts. Right. That's ridiculous. We'll come on to this, Craig, when we talk about the best draft pickup. I don't think in this league either. No, okay, so fine. So we were some way away from that. My last hot take was that all four of our Ponderball semi-finalists will be the four expats. So that's the Weed Whackers, the Deflators, the Hippos, and Chiefs. The Chiefs. Not a single one of them. You're welcome. Yeah, thanks very much, mate. So that's a that's a big old goose egg for your old pal John, and that's two, two to zero. They're all pretty hot, though. They were screwed. So this is what I've learned is that I need to cool down my hot takes next season. Hot takes. And on to the awards. And we are starting with the same set of awards that we standardized last year. Was last year the first year they were standardized. The proper standardised awards. And so we're starting with best draft pick. Now, I have run down what I think should be in the mix for this. I've got Michael Pittman for the Hippos, round 10, pick 111, finish WR22. Nope. Travis Etienne at the Horndogs, round eight, pick 86, finished RB10, and Javon A. Williams for the Horndogs, round nine, pick 107, finish RB12. They're both annoyingly good. They are annoyingly good, aren't they? Zay Flowers, and I think this is a decent shout. Black Sheep Boys, round six, so reasonably high, but he finished WR7 on the year. Both of them, Ponderball wins the year before. Yes. Yes. Stefan Diggs for the Rage Blade, round seven, finished WR15. And then, to our comment earlier, Carl Pitts for the Quinn, the only tight end on this list, round eight finished tight end two. It's hard to discount those running backs.

SPEAKER_02 26:39

Yeah, for me, Javonti Williams is the clear winner. The thing I'll say about Carl Pitts is that, and I think Michael Pittman as Swell, if I'm not mistaken, have big weeks and real down weeks. Whereas Javonti Williams was just even more so than Travis Etienne was just week on week.

SPEAKER_01 26:56

Travis Etienne finished higher than him. I've I've maybe I'm fairly biased it in my favour by putting those two together. Would you give it to either one of them alone?

SPEAKER_02 27:06

I think out of the six players, the top two in my book are both running backs, both Horndogs, which is really annoying.

SPEAKER_01 27:12

See, I think it's Zay Flowers. No, no. For where he picked him up, for how good he was on the Swines last season. Well, I I think he he was boom up. He had a lot of he had some big weeds that really picked him up though, didn't he? He wasn't consistent.

SPEAKER_02 27:25

And he was the highest drafted of all those players. Sure. No, I for me it's Travis Etienne or Javante Williams, and I'm actually gonna leave it to you, John, to pick which of your two running backs are the best draft pick up.

SPEAKER_01 27:36

Well, if you are leaving it to me, and with the humility that comes with being your only three-time champ, I'm gonna give it to myself for both of them.

SPEAKER_02 27:46

No, you've got to pick one.

SPEAKER_01 27:48

Oh, ETN.

SPEAKER_02 27:49

ETN.

SPEAKER_01 27:50

Yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_02 27:51

Best draft pick, 2025 season, Travis Etienne, round eight, RB ten.

SPEAKER_01 27:56

So the float I I think that's got to be the case because he was really soured at the end of the season before. Yes. He was terrible. Yep. He was uh Javante Williams wasn't great the year before, but that's because of injuries, and then he went to a new team. I think a lot of people fancy him. Etienne basically went to the same situation with everyone hating him. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fine. Well, thank you, and I'll take that. I joined the floating heads.

SPEAKER_02 28:20

Although, although I've just realized that you're saying the auto drafts can't win this, George Pickens, round seven, finish WR5. Yeah, that I think would be Yeah, absolutely would be.

SPEAKER_01 28:32

Chris Alarve, round seven, finish WR six. Quinch and Judkins, round eleven, finish RB26. Now, those are great, but they're auto draft teams, and as has always been the staple of this award, an auto draft team cannot win best draft pick of the year. It's a real shame for those guys because they would definitely have been in the mix.

SPEAKER_02 28:50

Do you know what I'm seeing there though? No gobblers picks, which is interesting.

SPEAKER_01 28:56

Well, also auto draft.

SPEAKER_02 28:57

No, I know, but even on the autodraft picks that we've discounted, no gobblers pick. The computer picked him a very good team, but it picked them where they should have been picked.

SPEAKER_01 29:04

He had a large, didn't he? Oh sorry, yeah, he was a larvae Oh. Yeah. My mistake. But he always has a larvae. But even so, and I I've put here special mentions floating heads for Court and Sutton, the Commissioner's Chiefs for Tetrar Macmillan, who were both late picks and both finished very well.

SPEAKER_02 29:19

But that's just hitting on a rookie.

SPEAKER_01 29:21

But they weren't as good as Zay Flowers, for example. So fine. I will take that. I joined the Floating Heads, the Hippos, Rage Blade and the Chiglets in Best Draft Pick of the Year. Congrats. Worst draft pick of the year. And what I've tried to do with these nominations is not single out players who were picked high and then just got injured. Yeah, yeah. Because that's not your neighbours or Wilson chiglies. Um, or you Drake London for the floating heads. Like, that seems unfair. So what I've landed on is and I'm gonna read this not in necessarily the order that it's listed on this page. Justin Jefferson deflated us round one, pick four, and WR20. I don't think that was Justin Jefferson's fault. No. There was a lot of bad stuff going on that five years. Yeah, but still for on the pick point of it, it's not great, is it? No, it's not great. I'll say Alvin Kamara Kings with the Swines, round five, pick seven, finished RB46, and he was functionally fit for most of the season. He was fit for pretty much every game, started every game, was their only running back, the main running back for most of the season. Yeah, and the Saints were just atrocious. Yeah. The one defence he's got is round five. Round five, exactly. So RB46 is doing a lot of work in that sentence. That's so low. It's not great. It's not great. Round five is round five. I think for me, it is between these two. It's Sakwan Barkley for the Beige City Wii Rackers, round one, pick six, and he finished RB 14. And then Brian Thomas Jr. for the Rage Blade, round one, pick 12, right at the back of the stake, but finished WR 42. Now, what I will say for Brian Thomas was he was out for three weeks or four weeks towards the end of the season. So the the when it coming into this award, my thoughts were that it was going to be Barclay or Thomas. Yeah. I hadn't appreciated that Thomas was out for a bit. He was out for it. But there was seasonal. He wasn't talk about how bad he was. Yeah, no. He wasn't, it wasn't season engine injury. He didn't just go out for like eight weeks, but he was out for a few, but then they just didn't utilise him in that Jag's offense at all. I think it could be Barclay. I think it probably is Barclay.

SPEAKER_02 31:25

Really? I think it could be Jefferson.

SPEAKER_01 31:27

I mean, actually, thinking about it, Jefferson. WR20. Both of those are auto-draft teams, and while an auto-draft team can't win best, it can certainly win worst.

SPEAKER_02 31:38

I'm happy to go Barclay. I mean he's had a um after the last season where he was clearly the best RB, a monumentally bad season. I'm happy with either Barclay or Justin.

SPEAKER_01 31:48

You turned to me, I think Jefferson. I think Jefferson. I mean WR20 versus RB14.

SPEAKER_02 31:54

And it and it wasn't about injury, that was about situation, awful QB play, just didn't show up. Yeah. I think Jefferson.

SPEAKER_01 32:02

I uh the only thing I'd say against that is that I think Jefferson's bad season was because of the other people on his team. Whereas I think Barclay just didn't show up. Yeah, okay. One of those two. We could give it to both. Yeah, I like that. Share the shame. Okay, so congratulations, Beijing City Weed Whackers, and the Deflators for Sackwan Barkley and Justin Jefferson respectively. Worst draft pickup of the year. You join Floating Heads, the Chiefs, Rageblade, and last year's entire Goblers team. Best waiver ad. Now I asked the league for their best waiver ads and best waiver drops. About half of them got back to me. Some people fully did not understand what the question was. More than one person. Kamis, I know you're pointing at yourself, but fine. More than one person. But I've cobbled together this, which I think is probably the short list. Michael Wilson picked up by the Hippos in week 11 as a free agent, no pesos. And the reason he's on there is not because he had a sensational season, but what he did from week 11 onwards was great, right? So that was just a smart pickup at the right time. Did he finish WR12 overall? Overall. Okay. But what got him there was his scores from week 11 onwards. I was gonna say, how was he on the well no, but it was it was an injury to whoever the Cardinals number one was. Marvin Harrison. Marvin Harrison. Jake Ferguson, week three floating heads for one peso. Got a soft spot for him. Tight end five on the season. That's not bad. When you need to fill that position in your team with someone good, that's who you go and get. Yeah, that was great. Wondale Robinson, now this was submitted by the Black Sheep Boys, and I laughed at it a little bit when I first saw it, but actually he picked him up week three, finished WR14 on the season. It's and he got him for six pesos. That's not bad at all. It's it's crazy, really. I don't remember him ever having a good week. No, I don't remember us ever saying. But he just quietly put up the same amount of points every week. Just ten points every week. Well, with um neighbours out. Yeah. He fell down. Neighbours went down, and the Giants Giants were chucking it a lot, and he just got the points. Rico Dowdle, and I I like this one. Week five, so early enough in the season for it to make a real difference. Free agents of zero pesos, finished RB 16. Now, 16 is not high, but it's an RB2. I thought he'd be higher than that.

SPEAKER_02 34:24

Yeah, he had a number of weeks where he was really class. Actually, of all just looking at the names alone, well, I'll let you finish names, but Rico Dowdle's a really good pickup.

SPEAKER_01 34:32

Well, the last one I've got on here is Harold Fannin, which is a name I don't think I expected to be on this list. But actually, basically we rackers, week seven for ten pesos finished tight end six. Now, that is a nod to that. That is a very good pickup.

SPEAKER_03 34:45

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:46

It's it's objectively worse than Jake Ferguson. Yeah. So I don't think it gets it, but I wanted to give the nod. Yep. Right. It defends his decision for to back in how much he did. Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:59

I agree. For me, the clear winner is Rico Dowdl.

SPEAKER_01 35:02

Yeah, I think it is Dowdle. It's not Michael Wilson. For me, it's I remember facing the Jiglets and thinking Dowdle's gonna be tough. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh it for me it's him and Robinson, but I think Doudl is the one that goes through. Yeah. For me it's Doudl Ferguson, but I think it's Doudl. Well, congratulations, Jiglets, for Rico Dowdl joining Horndogs, Floating Heads, Swines, and the Horndogs. Uh Worst Waiver ad, or otherwise known as the Cedric Tillman Award for Worst Waiver ad. Um, I've put here Aronde Gadston for anyone who picked him up at any point. And now I know I am on that list. I know the commissioner is on that list. He was good for you for a little bit. And I know Ponder Pig Six Champions, the Goblers, are on that list.

SPEAKER_02 35:48

Do you know what a team with Trey McBride doesn't need? Is a mid-tight end.

SPEAKER_01 35:54

A lot of people took a punt on him and he never paid it off. He had a couple of really great weeks, though. Well, I'm pretty sure he was probably on the waivers for those weeks. Great. He was definitely on your bench for one of them.

SPEAKER_02 36:06

Thankfully, though, I'm going to be saved by one of his entries.

SPEAKER_01 36:08

Well, and I think it is between these two, and I think I know which way I'm leaning, but Alvin Kamara, week 11, King's Winford Swines, 23 pesos. But the story is: drafted by the Swines, dropped by the Swines in week 10, picked up for 23 pesos in week 11, dropped again in week 14.

SPEAKER_02 36:28

But did you have to drop him because of injuries or bye weeks or something? Uh no.

SPEAKER_01 36:36

I think I had to drop someone for the first drop. Right. And decided that I'd do it and then pick him back up, and then you got in my head by telling me that you uh you had your eye on Kamara, so I went big on the pesos. I think that's what actually happened.

SPEAKER_02 36:52

Yeah. Well, thankfully, you've been saved by the third and obvious entry.

SPEAKER_01 36:57

Once GM Warren Medium understood the assignment, there was an obvious answer here, which is well, the only waiver thing I did was 100 pesos on Woody Marks. That was week four, and he finished RB28. I mean Yeah. It's marks. Let's move on. I think it's gotta be marks. It's gotta be marked. It's gotta be marked. It's got to be marked. So congratulations, Rageblade, joining the Jiglets and yourself as worst waiver picker of the game.

SPEAKER_02 37:25

Was last season's Jerome Ford?

SPEAKER_01 37:26

No, last season's was Cedric Tilburn. Oh, okay, fine. Uh that was 50 pesos, mind. So he's he's doubling it each year. He needs 150 pesos next season to do the same thing. Worst waiver drop. Now, look, I've I've put two names down here because I didn't like just having one nomination, but there really is only one winner.

SPEAKER_03 37:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:43

I said Rico Dowdle week three from the floating heads, which is a bad drop, but we gave it for best pickup, which I think is fair. There's a reason at the time to drop it as well. For sure. There was logic to it. There is only one nomination for this, and I think he knows it's coming. Big John Warren, Tyler Warren, week three, dropped him, finished tight end four. Absolute madness. Yeah. And I was never gonna put the Horndogs picking him up for 51 pesos on best waiver pickup, because that's still a lot of money to spend on a tight end. Yeah, and also everyone was trying to get it as well. But the drop was a bad call, and it's the second year that a team has dropped a sensational tight end and won this award.

SPEAKER_02 38:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:26

I mean, he's still got the last laugh by knocking you out of the playoffs. Well, he would have done, except he got knocked out by the Goblers and I got knocked out by the floating head doctors. Oh. I like to rewrite history. You had to get those two the wrong place. Real problematic short circuit in your brain.

SPEAKER_02 38:45

Is that gonna stay in the main edit or the blue blue? No, no, no, that's in the main edit. Okay. Congrats, Black Sheep Boys, on knocking out the Horndogs this season.

SPEAKER_01 38:52

Well done. If and when that happens. Is it gonna be spliced in with him getting the two of them confused multiple times pre-podcast? No, no, we'll that's all coming out, but that one will stay in because he's done it too many times for me to take it out of everything. Congratulations, Black Sheep Boys, worst wave of drop. Trade of the year and worst trade of the year. Now, for the first time in a few seasons, we've had more than one trade.

SPEAKER_03 39:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:14

So we have the Chiefs getting Drake May for the Goblers getting David Montgomery. We have the Swines getting Kittle and Jordan Addison for the Horndogs getting T. Higgins and Trey Benson. And we've got the Horndogs getting in Joku for the Goblers getting Otten. Now, I tell you what's not going to receive the best trade of the year, and it's that last one.

SPEAKER_02 39:37

The last one's such a nothing trade.

SPEAKER_01 39:40

Customary tight end trade, yeah. Great Kamish, you know I am very fond of a nothing for nothing tight end trade. Every year. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:48

That's why we need a trade deadline.

SPEAKER_01 39:49

Right, right, fine. I I will agree with you on that. But that's not getting it might get worse. I don't know. Like, it's very dull. I think it's between the other two. And I think there's an argument for both.

SPEAKER_02 40:02

Well, I think the Chiefs getting May, who finished the QB2. Yeah. I mean, uh, yes, let's discount the fact that the Chiefs didn't manage to win a playoff game and Goblins won the Ponderbow. But actually, I think that's a good trade. I was gonna say, it is a good trade.

SPEAKER_01 40:16

Having received Drake May, you did not play him correctly. No. But that doesn't but that doesn't take away from the trade. No. And I think Montgomery, as we said earlier, he didn't play the Ponderbow final, but he definitely helped Goose get there. 100%. It was a meaningful trade on both sides. Yeah, absolutely. And I think it was a fair one at the time.

SPEAKER_02 40:37

Yes. Ditto, the Swine's Horndogs trade. It was later in the season, so therefore perhaps less impactful.

SPEAKER_01 40:44

But you were against it for a tight end. Yeah. Kittle solved that problem. I needed a better wide receiver than I had. T. Higgins solved that problem. Addison and Benson are not really factors in my mind on this. It was just something else. Addison sweeped the deal for you. Benson, if he had ever come back, might have been a thing for me. Yeah. It was basically kill for Higgins. Yeah. Was the real one. But we thought that it'd get vetoed. Yeah, we did. And it did get questioned quite heavily. But I think it worked out well for both teams. Yeah, agree. You won games because you had Kittle. I won games because I had Higgins. Yep, absolutely. So I don't know where to go. We're in an unfortunate position where all three of us are somewhere on this list of.

SPEAKER_02 41:26

No, if if you're saying that the Kittle for Higgins trade meant you won or lost games, I don't think that's true of May and Minty. So actually, initially I was leaning May and Minty, but actually maybe not.

SPEAKER_01 41:39

I can certainly point to at least a game where having T. Higgins won me the game versus having had Addison. Kit Kittle carried me through.

SPEAKER_02 41:47

I will say that the May and Minty trade was more interesting, but in terms of trade of a year for impact, I think it's the swine's receiving Kittle, the Horndogs receiving Higgins.

SPEAKER_01 41:58

Fine, we'll go with that. So Horndogs and Swines join an illustrious pantheon of the only trade in the year. Which I think was Horn Dogs and Swines. But you preceded it well.

SPEAKER_02 42:08

This year had the best trades we've ever had.

SPEAKER_01 42:11

And this is more interesting, and I like it. I I as I say, I think the May Minty trade is great. I'm gonna say the Injoku Otten trade is the worst trade of the year, but it's the worst of three, and it didn't really mean anything.

SPEAKER_02 42:22

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 42:22

Um there was nothing controversial, there were no controversial trades this year. No. Which is good. Yep. Moving on to game of the year, there's quite a short list there. I'm not even sure if I'm gonna go through all of it. Please don't. There's a lot of close ones, and there's a lot of high scoring ones. What I'll pick out is week one Rageblade Jiglets, 129.62 to 129.something else. I've written 60 words. Oh no, so I don't remember there being a draw. It was a it was 129. something to 129 point something. Horde dogs chiefs, week seven. Yeah. Because similarly, 144.08 to 144.56 is very close. Yeah. It would be remiss of me not to call out the highest score we've ever had in Ponder Bowl is.

SPEAKER_02 43:08

For me, this is the game of the year.

SPEAKER_01 43:09

Well, you'll be interested to see it's also on the vote for worst game of the year.

SPEAKER_02 43:13

Ah.

SPEAKER_01 43:14

So 237.16 from the Black Sheep Boys is sensational.

unknown 43:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:20

It's mad. 98.7 in response is not a fun game.

SPEAKER_02 43:27

He rested his players.

SPEAKER_01 43:28

Right. My shout for this is the week 16 playoff, which the commissioner will remain surprised to hear, was between the Goblers and the Black Sheep Boys. I think it is this. 171 to 154. Insane scores on both sides. Absolutely what a playoff game should be. And I remember watching it and texting like crazy on the WhatsApp with a bunch of people who were doing the same. Because it was just back and forth. Hell of a game. I I th I think it's it's one of the two. Playoff games. It's that or the Horndogs Chiefs or the Goblers Black Shoot Boys. I'd I'd like to give it to that Goblers Black Sheet Boys semi-final. Agreed. I think it was the most exciting game we had this season. Come here, she looked hesitant.

SPEAKER_02 44:12

Look, the most surprised I was this season was Black Sheet Boys 237 points. I mean, for me that one wins it. Just obviously it wasn't much of a it wasn't a game of the year, but it was a score of the year, and we need to give that credit.

SPEAKER_01 44:24

So and we do, he's in the records, he gets his plaudits for putting up that score. But I think as a game, and he still gets the award, Goblers Blacksheep Boys playoff is the one for me.

SPEAKER_02 44:36

Yeah, I mean, with 320 plus points overall, I mean that must be the highest scoring game of all time, maybe. It was great.

SPEAKER_01 44:45

Okay. So congratulations to those two. Worst game of the year. And now I told you that the Black Sheep Boys record breaking game is also on this, but that's for the Bay City Weed Whackers meeting it with a 98. It's not gonna win it. No, not even close. There's some absolute stinkers here. There's a few where just teams didn't turn up. I mean, Quinn had a 63 score this year. Deflaters had a 77 score when they played the Black Sheep Boys. Rageblade put up an 83 against Quinn. But for me, this one, and they should know this is coming. The Warren Boys. You remember your performance this year. You remember what your teams did. Well, their two matches were a Rageblade win 97 to 94, and then a Quinn win 100 to 83. I'm unreal. It's just depressing. I I mean it it's a jointing for the two of them. Yeah. For both of those games. I mean, I I I The Brother Bowl is the worst game of the year. The brother bowl. Both of them. The least anticipated bowl of year. Now, and and here's the call to arms, right? Come back next year, do better. I mean, I I I have a there's a dark spot in my soul for the Gobblers swine score on here. In the first week of April. No, the last week of regards. A 96-87. So that that was the Alman Rawson Brown. Oh, could what could have been? What could have been? Yeah. So I've tracked it back through. Yeah. If I had played Alan Brah that week, scores going through and I win the Ponderball. If if if he'd have played Alam Ra that week and nothing else changed. And everyone made the same decisions, no, no butterfly flapped its wings anywhere in the world. Yep. You'd have one a ponderball chance.

SPEAKER_02 46:21

Massive load of sh.

SPEAKER_01 46:22

What a massive load of sh. The important thing is this award this year is going and deservedly going to the Rage Blade and the Quinn. WhatsApp Contributor of the Year. Sorry. Sorry. The Adam Special Special Jonathan Danger Warren WhatsApp Contributor of the Year Award. Previous winners are Adam, Joe, Joe, and Adam. I think we've had a good year on the WhatsApp this year. We've had a brilliant year. Who are we going for though? Because they're they're back in there. Both of them are in there. Both of them are in there. Now I'll tell you who else is in there. Ollie's GIF game has been on point. And remains to the day of recording on point.

SPEAKER_02 47:03

Yes. And one-liners.

SPEAKER_01 47:06

Oh, lest we forget Am and Yarn. Yes. And was it a deference maker? Like that can't be passed up.

SPEAKER_02 47:14

No. Plus, if we pick Ollie, Adam will lose his tiny mind. Well, I've put Matt in here on this.

SPEAKER_01 47:20

And now Matt is not hugely active on the WhatsApp. All gold though. But exactly. This season in particular, every time he has messed something, it's been brilliant. And the one that really sticks out in my mind is when John Warren questioned why he was playing the deflators in the first round of the playoffs. And Matt responded with bring it, bitch. Perfect. Unbelievably good.

SPEAKER_02 47:46

Yeah, for me it's a two-horse race. Rolly versus Matt. Nate has been good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:51

More than previous seasons. Was this season his dream sequence? No, that was last season. We talked about that on the last podcast. But we've had some. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's not been a drunken one this year? There might have been. I I remember enjoying again, similarly with Matt, I remember Nate hasn't said a lot, but I've enjoyed what he has. I think he ended up being sick in one of them, didn't he? I think there's one way said I'm now going to go and be sick. John Warren is also on this list, and it's for one thing and one thing only, and it's for sending a Google image search of a goose.

SPEAKER_02 48:19

Not a picture of a goose.

SPEAKER_01 48:22

A Google image search of a case.

SPEAKER_02 48:24

If we had a category message of a year, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 48:28

But I don't think it's John Warren, and I don't think it's Nate. Isn't it that though? I think so. Again, he gets his broadest for doing it, and I highly commend him do more of it. We've given him a couple of awards already. Oh, okay. All I'm saying is. Do you remember the uh the Baby Change Walkov award? Yeah, yeah. Maybe that's just for the one-off message are you? Oh, that's interesting. You've done the baby change walk-off. You send one unbeatable message. And that's the baby change walk-off.

SPEAKER_02 48:57

Armin Yar is second to the Google Change.

SPEAKER_01 48:59

The Google Image Search. Alright, let's do that. We're creating a new award. There we go. In 2025, Baby Change Walk-Off is being applied to the single greatest message in the WhatsApp. There we go. And that goes to John Warren's Google Image Search of a Goose.

SPEAKER_02 49:14

Which means for the WhatsApp contributor of a year, we can go for either Ollie or Matt.

SPEAKER_01 49:19

Well, do you think we're not giving it to either? Well, so okay, alright. It's not going to Joe, and I'll tell you for why. He wants it too much. I've liked the hustle. No, that's why it's not going to Adam. I'll get on to that. It's not going to Joe. I've liked the hustle. For me this year, he has been too angry. Okay. Maybe he's also been too anti-Horndogs. I've taken a lot of fuck from Mr. Preston this year, and I don't really know why. But I don't think he's been angry enough. And I'll be honest, normally he's quite anti-swine. He's not been this year. Maybe that's why I'm on his side to look at it.

SPEAKER_02 49:54

But I think it's Should you and I, Ed, give it to Joe just to piss off the swine.

SPEAKER_01 49:59

Ooh. Horndogs. Horndogs. That's dead in. Look, I think he's been too angry. I think he's led too much into the rage and the comedy has suffered, is what I'm gonna say. Okay. Ah, okay, interesting. I don't think he's been angry enough. Yeah, alright, fair enough. Well that's that's that's some confusing feedback that Mr. Preston can deal with. Dr. Preston, sorry. Adam is not getting it because he's trying too hard.

SPEAKER_03 50:28

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 50:29

I think, and I if I had any feedback for him, take a step back, breathe. Let 2019 Warren Medium come through. When's the last time he won this? 2034 Warren Medium Come through. Let last year's Warren Medium come through. There's too much. I like I like I like giving God shoot from the hip. If it was between the two of them, I'd give it Adam.

SPEAKER_02 50:50

Between who?

SPEAKER_01 50:51

Adam and Joe.

SPEAKER_02 50:52

But it's not, it's between Matt and Ollie.

SPEAKER_01 50:54

And who are we giving it to?

SPEAKER_02 50:55

Ollie. Matt.

SPEAKER_01 50:56

I'm gonna say the jig, let's get it. Congratulations, GM Ollie Ollie Arnett, on your Adam Special Special Jonathan Danger Warren WhatsApp Contributor of the Year Award. So I thought I'd just drop in here. We recorded this on the 9th of March, and I am editing it on the 18th of March. And what that discussion of the WhatsApp contributor of the year didn't account for was some absolute bulky that was going back and forth on the night of the 13th and 14th. But it was between our nominees, it was between all of them. In fact, Matt, Ollie, Nate, Joe, and Adam, all five of those men showing why they had the pedigree on the WhatsApp to be nominated for the award. Now, I also have a suspicion that in certain circles listening to this, the award of this will be controversial. And they might have some thoughts about that. And as always, if you have very strong opinions about this award or any others that we gave out in the awards show, feel free to get in touch with the podcast. I recommend that what you do is you write your thoughts and comments down on a piece of paper, you roll it up into a very tight cylinder, you put it on a table, you moisten it with some form of lube or KY jelly, then you roll on your side and you insert it right into your anus. That way it'll be sure to get to us. Thanks very much. Uh Joe Present Moment at Carm Award. I've only got one nominee for this as well. It's going back to the chicklets. It's got to be. The man had the most injured team in PP6 history, and that now carries 11 years. And he made a playoff. And he did it calmly, understatedly, changing the name only once, which I guess for this league matters.

SPEAKER_02 52:49

And in the right way.

SPEAKER_01 52:50

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:51

Change it, change it back. I I think this is a clear.

SPEAKER_01 52:55

I can't think of anyone else who's displayed decorum in the face of adversity like that this season. I mean, I've never mentioned the Amarab some brown thing before, so I should just so many times. And like it's unbelievable how often that has come up.

SPEAKER_02 53:12

Yeah, congrats, Ollie.

SPEAKER_01 53:13

I think the chances of you ever winning the Joe Present Moment of Karma Award are really slim. It's just not on the WhatsApp. And I think I think me too. But yeah, congratulations, Jiglitz, you got that one as well. Which brings us off to the much contested over the years, Commissioner of the Year. Ooh, who's gonna win? Well, uh unsurprisingly, you have taken this award home every year so far. Fingers crossed. And so the nominations this year, as written down, are the commissioner for whatever that bullshit he did around the Chase Drake Main Minty Marvin Mims trade was the day after the actual good trade that was then vetoed by him wearing a different hat. Don't know whether you remember that commission. You were probably quite drunk at the time. I was. Also the commissioner for and I've written down because I can't really remember it, but something about too many players on a team being enforced on one team and not another towards the end of the season. Yes. I don't think it's a winner scene because none of us can really remember what it was. No, I I sort of remember being furious about the whole thing. I remember being absolutely raging about it, but it's gone now. I've also written the commissioner for saying he was going to do a podcast every fortnight, and I think he's been on two so far.

SPEAKER_02 54:26

Yeah. That one I I I confess I should have done better on.

SPEAKER_01 54:31

But you know, life gets in the way.

SPEAKER_02 54:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:33

To paraphrase Jeff Goldblum. As always, there are many reasons to nominate the commissioner for Commissioner of the Year. But the real reason is for still doing this league and putting up with all of the you get for it. And for having a league that has worked very well for two or three years. Extremely well. Is working the best it's ever worked. Working so well, a wholesale change will be absolutely. That would be an absolute madness.

SPEAKER_02 55:04

And on that note, I have drafted a referendum. It's not going to be released yet, but it will be ahead of the next season. And this time something big will change. Because there are four categories, and you're going to rank them in order, or the change you want to make most to least, and the one that gets the most votes is going to be implemented. So good luck with that.

SPEAKER_01 55:27

Alright. Well, to any referendum that ends with the phrase good luck. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They should have done Brexit with that. Good luck. Good luck. I look forward to whatever comes out of that being the first nomination on the drawing next season. But congratulations once again, Commissioner Campbell, for your award at the end of this season.

SPEAKER_02 55:50

Thank you. Never has a commissioner done less than a season to win an award.

SPEAKER_01 55:54

But that's the sign of a good commissioner.

SPEAKER_02 55:55

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 55:56

We should get an absolute. I know, yeah, yeah, yeah. We am some very long crotch trousers. Finally coming on to coach of the year. And I don't know if we're announcing that or if he's already been told. Apparently you told him in York. I think we probably did. Again, I don't remember a huge amount of that weekend. But uh other people have been told. So I don't think we're breaking this news, but we might be breaking it to someone. Either way, as voted by the league. Yes. And I think very well deserved the sophomore GM in our league. The holder now of the largest game week score in Ponder Pick 6 history, Ponderbowl semi-finalist in his second season. Congratulations to Big John Warren, Black Sheep Boys, Coach of the Year. Well deserved. Well deserved.

SPEAKER_02 56:42

Absolutely. He was the only GM to get more than two votes.

SPEAKER_03 56:47

That makes sense.

SPEAKER_02 56:50

But no, alright, no. Fine. Let me finish. There were a few there were, I think there were four or five GMs who got a vote each, but he was the only one who got and I think he got four votes. Okay, right. And when people were voting, they said it's between this player or John Warren. So he was in the minds of most GMs, and I think deserves to be. So actually I meant that as a compliment.

SPEAKER_01 57:14

No, and I do. And also, that shows, as always, the members of the Ponder Pick Six League are sharing the love around each other. I I do like the idea that he won with two votes. I love that idea.

SPEAKER_02 57:26

He certainly did not. It was very possible.

SPEAKER_01 57:28

Oh yeah. Look, congratulations, John Warren, on a great season. And your coach of the year award. Congratulations again to the Goose's Goblers, current Ponder Bowl champions. Two-time Ponderball champions. Two-time Ponder Ball champions. I've still got that trophy taunting me. I was going to say that trophy is on its way to the Gobblers GM when he stops gallivanting around the world. That brings us to the end of the podcast and the end of the 2025 season and a long old summer where there's no NFL. And I regret that. But I think we should overpromise some podcasts. Yeah, let's say we're going to do three draft podcasts. We're going to do whatever this referendum is. An investigation. With at least one, if not two documentaries. I'm going to we're going to do that nightfall podcast at some point. Yep. RRR podcast. We'll do an RRR one as well. Basically, podcasts up the Wazoo between now and August. We'll see you in August. But then all of that will fall apart, and we'll do one of these again, probably about week two next season. There'll be one post-draft one. Yeah, yeah, probably. Probably. Immediately post-draft.

SPEAKER_02 58:30

No. Pre-draft. One pre-draft podcast. Absolutely for certain.

SPEAKER_01 58:34

Alright.

SPEAKER_02 58:35

Fair enough. Five.

SPEAKER_01 58:37

Too many. Five. Two? Oh, there'll be five. Alright. We will see what happens at that point in the year. We'll see where we'll be doing it, because it might not be in the days Benson Phillips Lounge anymore. It probably will be. It probably will be. But anyway, all that is left for me to say is thank you to the both of you for the podcast this season. It's been an absolute pleasure, as always. Can we play some comments to the fact that he's had a box of sushi during this podcast? I wasn't going to, and I might cut this out as a blooper because he's been eating it very quietly. But yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:08

Who's been eating what?

SPEAKER_01 59:09

Exactly. All that is left for me to say is. So Ed. Huh? There's only a couple more minutes left on the podcast, man. Like, what do you think I should put on now? Wild, wild west. Really? Nah, come on, man. I've done some hot parodies. I've done REM. I've done Billy Joel. What should I do next? Wild, Wild West. Alright, look, you know what, man? Look, I'm just gonna go on. I'm gonna pick my own, I'm gonna put something else on. John! Alright, ma'am. Fine. Wild. Wild. Picky pee pee. Picky Picky pee. Picky pee. Picky Picky Pee P6. Draft picks. Hit the first game. No shame. Then the score drops. The saying, win or lose. Players that you choose. Poggers bring the news. What's up, gets bolder? Look, it's like I told ya. Commission up to his same old tricks. Be covered in dicks when you meet John 6. GMs will go check the app and slide. Watch their team or flex. And get a guy on the side. Swallow their pride. And let the wave attack. They don't want to see the league when the points are back. With Scotty H. John of Red or Dave playing the plays. John and it on the pot. I remember the names. Now who you gonna call up the B2? Now who you're gonna call up the B T. If you have a riff with either one of us, breakout. Before you get bumper 33. When I roll into the 33, when I scroll into the 33rd, when I'm back into the 336, take oh, it's now once upon the time in the west. Take lead's got the big win in the west. Come hit, get the second blade up the best, rage blade and the quin tail in the test, then in the center, test the metal to play the best, hip both of all it, go to the ballot, behind the back, one putting a beard on the fender, two teams tipping the lid. What else is immediately east? Understand good now looking back in the lead. Tell me closer to a big team, and I do feel that like cheaper fighting too. Ain't gonna feel that. Try to bring down me the three-time game. We like a gun team that the A remote when it's all been done. Seven team in the mid. It's never a fixed. Till I say it's the pot of fixed. So if you're looking for the big length, we know it. Just the playoff team, it's the real show it. Never down to trick, it's head to head, then on to the eight, two, two, two, one on roll, three, two, one on roll, three, two, one on down, three, two, two, two, two, three, and we don't fight the thing.