MAKING UX WORK: The Joe Natoli Podcast
Welcome to real talk about the invisible work behind a UX career — work that is by turns extremely difficult and deeply personal. This isn’t the interview show it once was. It’s just me now, talking honestly about the stuff that rarely makes it into UX conference talks — dealing with impostor syndrome, setting boundaries, navigating politics, surviving bad managers, and growing into the designer you want to be.
If you’ve ever wondered if it’s just you... it’s not.
And if you've ever wondered if things can change...here's the proof that they can.
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PLEASE NOTE: I no longer interview guests.
Agents, please do not send me requests to have someone you're representing on the show. The answer is always going to be no.
MAKING UX WORK: The Joe Natoli Podcast
Your Artifacts Aren't Achievements.
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Somewhere along the way, many of us start believing that our work is proof — proof that we're talented, valuable, or worthy of being in the room.
In this episode, Joe explores why it's so easy to tie our identity to what we produce...and how that mindset leads us to defend artifacts instead of solving problems.
You'll learn why outcomes matter more than deliverables, why simplicity is often harder than complexity and what it takes to separate your self-worth from your work.
This one is about letting go of the need to protect what you create — and finding confidence in the impact you leave behind.
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Each episode explores the human side of UX and product design careers — confidence, power, politics, impostor syndrome, boundaries and the challenges that never show up in books or conference talks.
No hype, no platitudes, no bullshit.
Just honest perspective, earned the hard way.