MAKING UX WORK: The Joe Natoli Podcast

Stop translating. Start confronting.

• Joe Natoli

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If you're not careful, being diplomatic can slowly, steadily turn into avoidance.

In this episode, Joe talks about the trap of constant translation — softening problems, filtering dysfunction, and protecting others from discomfort — and why that keeps people (and teams) stuck.

You’ll learn what healthy confrontation looks like, how clarity builds trust, and when it’s time to say the quiet part out loud.

This is about honesty — delivered with equal doses of care and courage.

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Each episode explores the human side of UX and product design careers — confidence, power, politics, impostor syndrome, boundaries and the challenges that never show up in books or conference talks.

No hype, no platitudes, no bullshit. 

Just honest perspective, earned the hard way.