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SUPER LATE! this was from Feb 13th but our editor (me, Upo) stopped solo boozing and editing has become so much more of a pill. This week (from a month and a half ago) Caasim and Upo go through Casey's realization of his mortality, the Superbowl halftime show, if A24 is past its prime, and a rambling list of our top 10 movies that took way too long. Appreciate yall!

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:01

Hell yeah. Damn, I had a Belgian white in a minute. Oh, I can't stand fucking. Really? Not not terrible. I'm not mad at it.

SPEAKER_02 0:14

Anything that's like super weedy?

SPEAKER_01 0:16

Yeah, you said you're not a fan of that.

SPEAKER_02 0:17

Can't do it like the fucking blue moons and all that shit.

SPEAKER_01 0:20

Blue moon, shock top, all the trips, yeah. That's actually pretty good. Write proper brewing out of DC. Shout out, y'all. You make a decent low low wit. Is that supposed to be little white? It says low wit, but it's a Belgian white. I feel like it's supposed to be a little white. And the eyes long. Pause. Yeah, I think it's supposed to be a little white. But uh, yeah, man, conquered uh dry January. Hell yeah. Fuck yeah.

SPEAKER_02 0:44

Hell yeah, fuck yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:45

Fuck yeah. What do you so you're you're going till end of Feb? Uh March 6th.

SPEAKER_02 0:51

We'll mark like 60, 61 days. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 0:54

So this is 60 of the hard way? Is this what you're doing? What's it called? I don't even want to say what it's called because it's fucking crazy sounding. What do you mean? Nah, nah, you gotta say it now.

SPEAKER_02 1:04

You can't do it for the people. The the actual thing is uh 75 hard.

SPEAKER_01 1:10

75 hard, that's right.

SPEAKER_02 1:11

But yeah. That's a little too crazy for me.

SPEAKER_01 1:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:16

Because two workouts a day was the part where I was like, I'm not lifting every day. Like I I'm just gonna hurt myself.

SPEAKER_01 1:24

So like what's your what's your typical lifting cadence?

SPEAKER_02 1:27

Uh five days a week.

SPEAKER_01 1:28

Monday through Friday, or you just take it like two on, two off, two on, two off.

SPEAKER_02 1:32

Monday rest, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, lift, rest, Friday, Saturday, Sunday lift.

SPEAKER_01 1:39

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:40

And then I do I in shape people will roll their eyes at me for calling power walk-in cardio, but um walking's a better form of cardio than running. But yeah, that's for your joints.

SPEAKER_01 1:52

Yeah, that's my cardio, is just walking four miles and yeah, cardio is a weird thing, especially if you're lifting, because like it's uh it's a it's a trade-off. It's like, what are you trying to do? You're trying to burn calories and lose weight, or you're trying to like just maintain stamina, in which case there's a lot of forms of cardio that while like great workouts for you, um, are not the best if you're trying to bulk up and gain muscle mass.

SPEAKER_02 2:16

Yeah, the only reason I'm even lifting is just because I'm like, I don't wanna just do cardio and lose all semblance of muscle. So it's not like a I don't know, we'll see. But I did hit a fucking whoopsie. Um I didn't check my weight until like three, four weeks in.

SPEAKER_01 2:37

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 2:37

And a month in, I lost what was your last known weight pre-the whole thing? Yeah, it was like 350.

SPEAKER_01 2:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 2:46

And then I weighed myself like a week ago, a month-ish in, and uh I lost 20 pounds. Holy shit. And I was like, that's too fast.

SPEAKER_01 2:57

Um I mean, it could also be that like I when you first start taking it serious, that spurt. Yeah, and then it plateaus a little bit, and then it's like then you know, but yeah, I mean, that is a lot of weight to lose.

SPEAKER_02 3:07

But then I uh plugged my daily food intake into like a calculator. Uh-huh. Google, Chat GPT, the rest of the internet was like, bro, you are not eating enough. Like you're gonna start like eating into your muscles and possibly lose fucking bone density and shit like that. So bulk the fuck the weird thing is I didn't I wasn't hungry out of it.

SPEAKER_01 3:31

Ramadan, bro, what are you fucking?

SPEAKER_02 3:33

I wasn't hungry, I wasn't feeling faints or anything like that.

SPEAKER_01 3:36

Well, you're you're used to intermittent fasting.

SPEAKER_02 3:38

Yeah, I guess, but um I after I did the calculation, it was like 13 to 1400 calories I was eating a day.

SPEAKER_01 3:44

I mean, you look slimmer. It's showing in your face, your arms, you can see it.

SPEAKER_02 3:48

But I was like, there every source was like, you need to get some how many calories were you taking? At that point, it was 1300. Holy shit, that's not a lot. Yeah, 13 to 1400 a day. Um, they were like, you need to be What were you eating? Uh just one meal? No, I actually dinner and I was it? Like, what do you I think I have it? Let me see.

SPEAKER_01 4:13

Yeah, I because I remember you texting me and you were like, dude, I don't know how the fuck you enjoy cooking as a fucking activity because you were like, This shit is the worst.

SPEAKER_02 4:20

Yeah, yeah, I can't fucking do it, dude.

SPEAKER_01 4:23

I hate it so much. Most random text. Just like a shower thought. You're like, Yeah, yeah, listen. I was mid I was mid-cooked too. I was in the kitchen. I don't even think I was, I think Celeste was cooking that night because I was I was had class and I was working on my schoolwork, and I came downstairs and I think I was getting ready to eat, and uh I saw that text and I was like, that's hilarious.

SPEAKER_02 4:42

So I was eating first meal would be two and a half servings of non-fat Greek yogurt and fruit. Like two mandarin oranges, something like that. Okay, and then the second meal would be half a pound of whatever kind of chicken I cooked, uh some rice, like half cup rice, two cups of spinach, uh oh, I would have some walnuts with the lunch too. Okay. Like and then olive oil and stuff like that in the chicken, you know, whatever. Keep it generally Medadrinian. Yeah. And uh for dessert, I would have like a thick cut of like sourdough bread with like walnut butter on it and some honey.

SPEAKER_01 5:22

Walnut butter.

SPEAKER_02 5:23

Is that how's that? Uh it's not great compared to peanut butter, but uh where you get it, like Whole Foods or some shit? Fucking Amazon. I can't find any place any real cookies.

SPEAKER_01 5:34

I remember uh years ago I bought a jar from Trader Joe's of cookie butter. So good, dude. Fire, so fire never finished it because it was so rich and it sat for so long, and Celeste eventually threw it out because I wouldn't yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:46

I very sparingly did I touch that shit, but cookie butter rice crispy treats for like a potluck once, and I was like, This is it. This is I've never even fucked with rice crispy treats like that, but like I'll live in La Vita Loco again.

SPEAKER_01 6:01

Yeah. But cookie butter rice crispy treats, goddamn crazy. That's like that's gotta be like a stoner uh like invention or some shit. Yeah, I was like, holy. So what did they like cover them in cookie butter? Like once they were made.

SPEAKER_02 6:14

No, it was it seemed like without the binder. It was cooked.

SPEAKER_01 6:17

What's the binder? Marshmallow, right?

SPEAKER_02 6:18

Marshmallow. It it seemed like they probably did like half marshmallow and half cookie butter, so it still remains like sticky and tacky. Oh shit. And then did that with the Damn, damn.

SPEAKER_01 6:28

But okay, but yeah, that I mean, dude, it sounds like you're crushing the diet part.

SPEAKER_02 6:32

Yeah, so I was like, I'm not I'm eating a like in terms of like density, like weight of food, I'm eating a decent amount, but it's all like pretty low calorie. So every everything was like you need to fucking bump that shit up. So I worked in now an extra two tablespoons of like, I'll take the walnut butter with overnight oats with made with like uh milk, and that'll be like my breakfast.

SPEAKER_01 6:58

That's what that was my correct answer, but because I know I think you're vitamin D deficient, right? Because mine was a little low too on my last one. Um so I was like, where are you gonna vitamin D for? But yogurt, milk, makes sense. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 7:07

The but yeah, so we'll see. We'll see how this next month goes with the extra Yeah. I I'm not a breakfast guy, so I started just eating that with my lunch. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:17

But um Yeah, it's been dry January for me. Obviously, I mean, drinking's gonna be a big one, um, just as far as just calories that you're dropping, um, even if it was mainly LBs that I was drinking. LB's? I mean, I we went to uh Celeste's parents' house last weekend for her dad's birthday. Um it was actually during the ice storm, but because of that we couldn't go, so we celebrated it late. And um, we went over there and uh her mom we actually know, matter of fact, a couple weeks ago, right before the ice storm, we went over there to make sure they didn't need anything. Um we ran out to go grab like a propane tank just in case their heating went out because you know everyone was talking about oh, we might lose power, shit might get real crazy. Yeah, yeah. Um so we we stopped by like hours before the the storm was supposed to start just to make sure they had everything they needed. Um we ran the loaves and ball, like new weather stripping for their doors because they were still getting drafts in there and shit. Um so once we took care of them, but when I got there, uh Celeste's mom made a comment to Celeste, she was like, Is Casey okay? Like he's he looks like he lost weight, like his face. Hell yeah. So I was like, fuck yeah, that's my noticed. But um I I could tell a little bit at least, like uh in the mirror, just like my belly went down a little bit. Because not only that, it was also like a big thing. I was uh in addition to not drinking, it was also just like even though the last year with the cholesterol thing, I've been trying to cut red meat as much as possible, eat more chicken fish, uh dodge meat entirely, uh at least once a week. If I eat a vegetarian dish. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, not not have to have meal uh meat with everything, um, switching to turkey bacon, shit like that. Okay. Um, so that's been a goal, but like this last month was like much more like concerted effort. So there was a lot of that, but also portion size. Because that's also a big one for me, is like I eat shit because it tastes good, not because I'm still hungry. Yeah, for sure. Uh yeah. That that was a big one. And like the other night, oh at least like a couple weeks into it, I was sitting down for dinner one night, and like I had my serving, and I was sitting there like halfway into it, I felt full. And I was like, fuck. I was like, this sucks because I want heat thrust. Yeah, but I'm like, I know I shouldn't. And so I put it up and I I said said something to Celeste about it, and she's like, that's good. And I was like, I guess I was like, I don't know, like, I don't know. I feel like like my I don't know. It's like I I guess it's like the uh what what's the there's like a phrase for it. It's like uh a just a just uh a just life is its own reward or some shit like that. Oh yeah, yeah. It's like there's no reward for doing what you're I mean, I guess like losing weight and feeling better, being healthier, you know, a longevity, I guess, in the long run. Yeah, there's benefits there, but for the most part.

SPEAKER_02 9:41

Can I be honest about the maybe it's because I'm like still a big dude and I've been on plenty of like eating clean type shit in my day. None of it feels better to me.

SPEAKER_01 9:52

Maybe, like I said, it could be because I'm still pretty big, but like Aless always used to mention, I I wish she was here for this one, uh, that she used to talk about like back in the day day when she was like super skinny as a teenager, and she always r uh waxes poetically on like the the feeling of feeling light. Like she's like, man, like I miss being skinny. I and I don't know how much of this is like internalized or like psychosomatic because of like just body image issues as it's even not psychosomatic, right?

SPEAKER_02 10:23

Chalk a lot of that up to youth, yeah. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 10:26

Like she she she would just be like, Yeah, you know, no, she and I'm like, I'm pretty sure that's just all like and she's like, No, no, no, you don't understand, like just a feeling of just like you could feel light, and like she was like, it was such a good feeling, and I'm like, I'm not buying it, dude. Yeah, I'm not, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:40

That that if if not talking about Celeste, anybody else even, I would chalk that up to like just being young, like, because this is the lightest I've been shit probably in like 15 years.

SPEAKER_01 10:53

Oh, yeah. I used to I I I perused uh you know, for for all intents and purposes and jokes aside, uh, you know, 4chan's usually known for like memes and shit, but they have boards for everything. Yeah, one of the boards they have is fitness. So it's like generally it's just like it's just like autistic chuds who just like lift weights and just like post memes and shit like that, and like talk about some of it's like legitimate like macronutrient, like it's some of it's like trend dieting, some of it's like workout splits, you know, this person does CrossFit, this person does paleo in their diet, this pro you know, so it's just like a bunch of people just like reaching at each other about like which way's the best, or like how you're an idiot because you're doing that. Yeah, um, but there used to be these uh like pro anorexia, like bulimia threads that were basically uh called thin spoin spiration I've I've heard. Yeah, and so like one of the most common ones was like you know, a picture of some skinny bitch, and it's like it's like no no food tastes as good as skinny feels. And I'm like, I'm pretty I'm pretty sure you're wrong. I mean, that was all over the internet.

SPEAKER_02 11:49

Yeah, I think Gwen of the Paltrow or some some celebrity said some shit like that about nothing tastes as good as skinny feels.

SPEAKER_01 11:55

I'm like, I don't know, baby. You ever had like a really good steak?

SPEAKER_02 11:57

Yeah, like you ever had like a fucking disgusting cheeseburger before?

SPEAKER_01 12:01

Like you ever had just like just a straight decadent fucking meal. I'm sorry. Like, nah, like I I totally uh just food in general is just one of my like great joys in life. Yeah, so like yeah, um again, I'm getting older, my mortality's starting to hit me, so I gotta, you know, find I I gotta I I lived it up. I was cautioned to the wind for three decades. Now I gotta, you know, start paying some attention to it. But you know, there's still my joys to be had here and there. So but yeah, I think I did lose a little bit of weight. I can definitely see in the mirror a little bit, like the beer belly went down a little bit. I've always kind of had a skinny fat thing going on. Um so yeah, that's nice. Um oh I forgot to mention you. So yeah, the reason I was taking ibuprofen um had a monster fall on the ice. Uh and I fucked my back up uh real bad, real bad. Um, it was it was not to the point where like I couldn't move or like I wasn't. Yeah. Um so my battery died. Uh-huh. Uh the cold. The cold. Yeah. I went to go to work one morning because I was working from home because of the ice. And one morning I was like, you know what? I'm gonna try to go into the office today. Because the main roads were clear. I just had to get out of the alley, which is all ice, by the way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was like, you know what? So I went to start my car and it was fucking dead. And I was like, fuck. So it's like a it was like a Wednesday. Uh huh. So I sent a team's message. I was like, hey, my car battery's dead. I don't have any, and Celeste's car was iced in because of the snowplasts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was like, I don't have a way to get in. And my company, I mean, they were cool. They were like, Yeah, no one's coming in the office. They were like, You're fine. If you can't make it, can't make it. And I was like, all right. So like Friday rolls around and a couple people have started to come back to office. And I was in, I I messaged him, I was like, Yeah, like I'm trying to. And so one of my coworkers teams messaged me. He was like, Yo, um, he was like, I got a jump pack. If you need me to come to your house, if you want to jump it, you can get to the store. And I was like, That'd be fucking dope. Yeah. So he comes after work and he tries to jump it, and it's completely like dead stuff. Yeah, he was like, I was like, it's not gonna, it's that bad. Like it's that I've never changed it since I got the car. Yeah. So um I called my dad that night. I I thanked him because I felt bad. He drove all the way here from work on the way home, fucking all for nothing. But anyway, uh, so I called my dad and I was like, Hey, can you pick me up tomorrow? Um, just take me to like uh the auto parts just so I could swap my battery. And he's like, Yeah, I got you. So he came that Saturday morning. So this is this is Saturday before last. Okay, like after the storm. Yeah, so backyard's a sheet of ice. So I uh and this and I had fallen once the first day I left the house when I was walking down the stairs and I first stepped onto the ice, and thankfully it wasn't that bad. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I had a little tumble, kind of hurt my tailbone a little bit, and I was like, fuck, I gotta be more careful. So so yeah, my dad comes that morning and he brings his tool set because there was like a ratchet. I needed ratchet set. I don't have one, so I needed one to get the bolt off to get my battery loose. Yep. So as I'm I'm finishing up and I managed to get the battery out, I was walking with it across the ice and my fucking feet swept out from under me. Oh, and I dude, I ate shit. God knocked the wind out of me. I thought I collapsed a lung. Like the immediate feeling, like losing your breath.

SPEAKER_02 14:57

I couldn't breathe, and I was getting the wind knocked out of you is like up there with like regular stuff that like you can just regularly get yourself injured, but like how bad it feels for how like in this in the moment, you're like, I'm dying. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:10

I can't breathe. Yeah, I fucking so my dad thought it was the funniest shit in the world. My dad's hysterical. Fucking he's sitting in the alley, one like in the van driver's seat watching me. And he's like, What are you doing? What do you think? I'm fucking busting my ass over here, bro. Dude, I fell with a car battery on my chest.

SPEAKER_02 15:30

Jesus Christ. Yeah, I didn't even think about the battery weight.

SPEAKER_01 15:32

Dog, so I the I get into the I get it, I've managed to get out. He helps me out. We get into the truck with the battery. I I'm fucking hurting. But the first thing I do is I check my breathing. So I try to take some like I I try to start increasing my breathing and like test my capacity. Managed to do some deep breaths in and out. So I'm like, I don't think I collapsed. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, ever since Kevin talked about first thing I thought of, I was like, Kevin, Kevin. Yeah, yeah. Ever since Kevin told me about a fucking collapsed lung. So the next thing I did was test my range of motion a little bit. I was like, let me let me try both sides, you know, a little obviously tough because of the pain, but like nothing where I was like, I can't turn. Yeah, yeah. I was I felt okay.

SPEAKER_02 16:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:13

So yeah, I came back and uh we managed to get everything else. I I didn't manage to fall again, thankfully, but like it's been we're approaching we're just over two weeks now, I guess. And um I'm still getting like so it's better. Yeah, it's not a hundred percent and I'm over um this Saturday will be two weeks. Shit. And that's so I I I did a lot of Web MD in online and looking up like just general backstop because I was like, I don't like at what point do I really need to go get an MR? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I was, you know, reading a bunch of shit. And so a lot of it's like a severe muscle strain like that. They're like, the recovery time's two to four weeks. And I'm like, okay, because I I'm thinking some stuff I'm reading, I'm like, yo, I fell and it hurt my back. And they're like, oh, if you're not better within like three, four days, you should probably and I'm like, so I'm like doomering and I'm like, all right, what am I really doing here? So like I said, um I don't really have a chance to get to the doctor before we leave out of town next week. Yeah. So I'm kind of just stuck at the grace of what it is. Like I said, it's better. Yeah. But when I'm getting out of bed in the morning, I'm feeling back pain. Damn. So, you know, I'm popping ibuprofen zone. Like I said, it it's marginally better. It's it's from the beginning of it, it's a lot better. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But day to day, like every night I go to bed and I'm like, I'm hoping I'm gonna wake up tomorrow and like I'm I'm back. Oh, like the other thing is like I've been out of the gym, yeah. So I feel like super unproductive. I'm like, I'm not lifting until I know 100%. For sure. Um, and so yeah, man, this shit fucking sucks. But this is like probably one of the worst injuries I've ever sustained. Like it's my mortality is like in front, plane, and center. It's like you fucking fell on your back and like you are Did you have spasms?

SPEAKER_00 17:50

No.

SPEAKER_01 17:50

Oh I didn't get any numbness, I didn't get any like shooting pains, like it's just like yeah, I'll tell you what.

SPEAKER_02 17:56

Them spas I've had the you fucked your back up before that before? Yeah, I've got how twice. No, three times. So um first time was just really dumb. I was at working at Kmart and I was helping somebody put a a table in the in the bed of their truck. Yeah, it wasn't even that heavy of a table. Somebody else was helping me. Just tweaked it. Just tweaked it. And then it took me 20 minutes to get from the front of the store back to the fucking break room. Because every fucking three steps was just spasm, shooting fucking pain. Fuck that, dude. And then the second time was uh at work uh at the current job, but I was lifting up a printer and the cord fell in front of me.

SPEAKER_01 18:45

And so you stumbled.

SPEAKER_02 18:45

And I didn't know that the cord fell, so I was yeah, so I stepped on the cord, stumbled, you know, trying to correct yourself. You're trying to correct yourself while jerking this fucking cord movements and you're throwing your weight off. Yeah, you're gonna be able to get it. You're jerking this printer up that's not coming up because the cord is underneath your fucking foot. And you're tweaking it. Yeah, I've I fucked that up pretty bad. Last time was this is why I stopped playing pickleball. And this time it wasn't even anything crazy. The the night we played pickleball, I was like, oh yeah, my back's a little sore, it's not that big of a deal. I woke up the next morning, spasms, like fucking that's the yeah, that was the the most aggravating one.

SPEAKER_01 19:20

Yeah, because it's like the most minor, yeah. Yeah, I didn't do anything wrong. I just did physical activity like that.

SPEAKER_02 19:27

Also, like it's like the delay, like at least the other two times, like I'm expecting it. And uh, it's happening now. That's you should be surprised on the wake up.

SPEAKER_01 19:35

Like, oh man, your back's known out. Yeah, that's a bitch. It's fucking crazy. That's a bitch. But but yeah, so I'm I've been dealing with that.

SPEAKER_02 19:42

Slow and steady progress, man. Not bad.

SPEAKER_01 19:43

You know, like I said, uh I I'm just knowing knowing what Oscar went through with his back, that's like my yeah, that's like my doomer brain is like, you might need surgery, bro. You might have you might have, you know, and Celeste was she's been looking at my back and like she's been keeping a diet track on the swelling, and like even up until a few days ago, like I said, approaching two weeks, she was like, There's still some swelling, you can see it. And I'm like, damn. Damn. So finally she was like, I yeah, I can't see it anymore. But she was like checking along like my spinal ridges. She was like, is anything bulging, like herniated? She was like, it doesn't look like it. Like, I think it's all yeah, like the worst man was like a few days after it. I fucking sneezed for the first time. Oh my god, I thought I snapped my rib cage in half.

SPEAKER_02 20:22

I was like Jesus Christ, dog, I wanted to cry.

SPEAKER_01 20:24

I was like, holy shit. And then now every time like I have a cough or a sneeze, like now it doesn't hurt. Like if I cough, fine. Sneezing, it's a just a little of a like a of a little twinge of pain. Yeah, but like it's not bad. But dude, that first sneeze, I thought like I had like an alien chest burster, like not to come out my fucking body, dog. I was like, I I this is this is agony.

SPEAKER_02 20:46

Yeah, I for for the past month with like the the working out more thing, yeah. Thank uh knock on fake wood, I don't know, whatever. Um but uh I've any like kind of tweak I've had, it's just been for the day or since I'm I revolve upper and lower body. Like by the time I get back to upper body, let's say, it's good. But like I a couple times like I've I've felt some twings in my back, something in my shoulder, yeah. And like for the next like 24 hours, I'm like, this shit better go away because I'm I'm doing good. You mean like I'm I need to fucking keep doing it. I'm doing right. Yeah, I'm doing right. Let's fucking go. And uh so far it's it's it's nothing hasn't been anything crazy, but yeah, two days ago I was doing legs and uh I did like a goblet squat and I just got sloppy with the fucking form and I felt a little twinge of something in my back, and I was like, no.

SPEAKER_01 21:44

I I get those I I was yeah, especially like when I do shoulders. Shoulders are by far my least favorite workout groups to do. So like there'll be times where like I'm getting through that that 11th, 12th rep on a shoulder, and I'll like tweak my, you know, a little bit, and you I feel it, and I'm like, all right, I'm done for the day. Yeah, yeah. I'm like that's Yep. And then thankfully, you know, I avoided. So, like I said, but this has been the this has been one of the worst injuries I've ever sustained. Uh, like I said, I I'm I'm hopeful that it'll be a full recovery. I'm just like I'm praying that it doesn't end up being the fact where like if I get back from Argentina and it's not a hundred percent because I'm like, yeah, I gotta get on like a 16 hour flight in a week with this shit. And thankfully, like I'm I'm comfortable right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's only like with certain movements or like I could just feel the tightness, and I'm like, it's you know, it's it's just a pain. Like I like I said, I thought after this long it'd be gone. Yeah. And like, you know, in my head, I'm like, damn, this is just not gonna go away. And so that's just making it worse, like psychologically. So I'm I'm grateful that you know I didn't. Uh I mean, as I was talking to people too about it at work, you know, someone was like, You might have just like fractured or broke a rib in the back, and you didn't I was like because I landed like on my left, yeah. I felt kind of like 45 degrees, yeah. So I'm like, it might be like a bone bruise, could be a lot of different shit that takes a while. So I'm like, you know what? I didn't even think about that for real. So like I'm like, it may be a long recovery, but nothing that like I think needs surgery for. As long as there's like progress happening, and I've been doing stretches the last few uh this week uh just to get blood flow going, just to like help start promoting it, and like nothing I'm doing is like agony or like you can't move, like it's just like a little bit of tightness, a little bit of this and that, but yeah, ibuprofen's been a big one. So that that too also makes me think that it's probably swelling, something in there that's still like hemorrhaged, that like you know, just needs to fucking, but yeah, it's uh it's a bitch, dude. Um, I was talking to Shem earlier this week, and he fucking sent a text to me and Alex fucking uh I guess like his other meniscus is fucked, and they were draining fluid out of it this week. And I was like, damn, dude, I'm so and he was like, Yeah, man, my fucking knees are shot. And I'm like, he's like, yo, getting old sucks, dude.

SPEAKER_02 23:46

Getting old does fucking sucks.

SPEAKER_01 23:47

I'm like, yo, like I feel like, I feel like, and this is gonna sound like some some glory day shit, but like, you know, five, ten years ago, I fuck, I would have bounced back off this fall. Like 35, dog, and I that fall on the ice. I feel like this shit, like I'm like, damn, this shit crippled me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:05

You were like grand, you're like grandpa joe before that golden ticket. Man, I could have hit the league.

SPEAKER_01 24:11

I could have I could have balled out, bro. I could have been the next Jalen Brunson. You should have seen, I could have played for the Knicks. Man, but that fall, man, fucked me up. Ruined my aspirations. Um, but yeah, so that's uh so yeah, I've had a stark reminder of this year to my mortality. Like I said, thankfully, you know, um just with all the other things I've been doing on the healthy side too. I guess I gotta I gotta count my blessings. Like it could have been worse. Yeah, I could have, I could have destroyed shit. I could have I could have herniated something serious, um, at least to my knowledge. I'm like, it could have been obvious that I need to go get surgery or get like a X-ray MRI immediately. But um besides that, yeah, man. I mean, doing doing uh dry January was dope. Um it honestly wasn't that bad. Um it was a California dry. I was definitely consuming some medicals. I was doing some THC. Okay. Since we don't have legal here, I was doing the uh well, we had some that we had left over. We ran out of them and we went to uh total wine and did the the uh the the the hemp derived uh like liquid drinking kind.

SPEAKER_02 25:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:13

Um and that's been cool. It's definitely a different kind of high. Yeah. Um, but uh yeah, that's all right. I I saw the other day that um retail legislation, obviously, with the change in administration and stuff and the change in the uh General Assembly is uh is likely on the way. They're just not sure if it's gonna start end of 2026 or early 2027. Nice. I'm like, that'd be cool, I can't wait. I would like to get yeah. I kind of I kind of really, really enjoyed switching from you know drinking at all to just uh just just THC high.

SPEAKER_02 25:42

Man, I wish I could fucking do it.

SPEAKER_01 25:44

Dude, when's the last time you tried it? Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 25:47

And and have you and have you tried like a small dose? The only time I tried a small dose was uh was oh no, I actually tried it like fucking ten months ago or something like that.

SPEAKER_01 25:59

Alright. Ten?

SPEAKER_02 26:02

That wasn't technically a small dose? No, the small dose I did. Define small dose. Small dose, I think I did like five?

SPEAKER_01 26:09

Right, okay, yeah, that's what we mean and Celesto split in ten over five milligram pieces.

SPEAKER_02 26:13

I think I did a a five, but it was too close to bedtime. So you just knocked out. And I just knocked out. I'm not gonna lie, they're the last time I tried just like whatever was a friend hooked up, hooked me up with something that he was pretty he said it was supposed to be pretty mellow. What did you hook you up with edibles or straight flour? Flour.

SPEAKER_01 26:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 26:32

So sat in the backyard, lit one up.

SPEAKER_01 26:36

So that but you how so how do you know how much you you don't. So would you draw like a like a paper, like a joint? Yeah, yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 26:42

Yeah. And then I'm not sure. Oh I remember I remember this. Yeah, when he gave it to you.

SPEAKER_01 26:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 26:48

No, no, no, this was before that. Oh, okay, okay. All of a sudden I was like, I had to cr I don't obviously don't have a fucking crusher. So like grinder, yeah. So I crush it out with my hands. Okay. And then like I was sitting there and I was like, man, this shit is really like like sticky on my fucking hands, and I need to get this shit off because I don't want to go inside and touch a bunch of shit, yeah, and then have my whole fucking house smell like fucking weed. Yeah, you got fucking tea to go over. So I go inside and I'm like, washing my hands, fucking whatever. So I'm washing my hands off and shit, and it's oil, so it's just not fucking coming off. So like for the next like even with soap? Even with soap, it was just what?

SPEAKER_01 27:30

So I I'll be frank, I've never rolled a joint, I've never actually handled weed with my hands. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 27:34

I also have like a freakishly good sense of smell. Okay. Probably a hindrance more than anything else.

SPEAKER_01 27:40

Because it just bothers you. Yeah. Like, I gotta get it off.

SPEAKER_02 27:42

Yeah, I gotta get it off. So for the next it and I didn't realize until like I stopped trying to get the smell off my hands that oh yeah, I'm I am actually high. I'm freaking out about this. Like I'm high. Yeah, I'm like, I'm like, oh, this is like I always find something to fixate on this. This is what I'm doing right now. So then I was just like I was like, okay, well, this is it. I'm just gonna be freaking out about like me stinking up the house for the next fucking and it, yeah, you know, like I mean, I get it.

SPEAKER_01 28:16

It it's not for everyone, I guess. Um damn, that sucks, man.

SPEAKER_02 28:19

Yeah. Like I said, I'd I wish I you gave it a shot.

SPEAKER_01 28:22

If you didn't like it, you didn't like it. I mean, you know. But uh, yeah. But yeah, so you know, dry January was good.

SPEAKER_02 28:29

Um, I almost got mad last week. Um what do you mean? We went to the Giants exhibit with uh I went with Oscar and Letty. Uh is this the Alicia Keys Beast one? Yeah, yeah. And afterwards, first and foremost, the amount of people doing the chin scratching there is hilarious. Just trying to do that. Whenever people are in the pond. Whenever people are in the fucking museum, yeah, dude. Just trying to look deep. Dudes in there, just trying to look deep performative, yeah, like performative art watchers. I'm like, Jesus Christ. Um, but anyways, afterwards they grabbed a beer. Oof, that's gotta be brutal. That wasn't the brutal part. The brutal part was as they were as we were wrapping up and they were about to go get dinner and I was gonna go uh go back home.

SPEAKER_01 29:13

Make some healthy, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:14

Oscar was like, yeah. And this is like a a what is this 12 ounce can, right?

unknown 29:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:19

Oscar had a 12-ounce can of beer and was like, Yeah, I don't I don't think I can finish this. Lethi was already done with her drink, and I was like, Oscar, if you don't fucking finish that beer, I'm gonna be livid with you. Like, I don't know why. I just had like an emotional re I was like, you better finish the fucking beer. Finish that fucking beer. Finish the beer, Oscar. Don't fucking waste a perfectly good beer.

SPEAKER_01 29:42

You you know when it comes to drinking, Oscar's gonna be the but I was just like, I was fucking pissed. He sent me some like turn up fucking Instagram reel, and I was like, fuck you, okay?

SPEAKER_00 29:54

Because me and Upo were trying to have a good time in St. Louis, and you were like Mr. Harsher Buzz. And he was like, nah, man. He's like, nah, nah, nah. He's like, I know. Next time we go, I'm like, fuck next time. Fuck off. Fucking three years from now.

SPEAKER_02 30:07

Like, fucking, how often do we get to do these trips, dude?

SPEAKER_00 30:10

Never.

SPEAKER_02 30:11

But yeah, um, that was the only time that like I did have another moment where I passed like the the tall boys in Kroger and I saw it too hearted, and I was like, damn.

SPEAKER_01 30:22

Yeah, when I went to grab these uh on the way home, um saw six pack of Giles. I was like, oh, I was like, ooh, likes Giles.

SPEAKER_03 30:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:31

But let me not.

SPEAKER_02 30:32

But it'll be good.

SPEAKER_01 30:34

Hopefully, uh on Dude, honestly, I think it's just it it's a it's a great exercise and just willpower. I think that's it, like yeah, because God forbid the time comes where you need to. Yeah, yeah, you can do it. For sure. If you can do it by choice, then you can do it when you can. When that when I have to, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:50

Because that was a question a little for for I questioned it for a little while. I was like, I don't know myself. I can, but like, yeah, there was that time where I had like a borderline, it wasn't any borderline, it was probably a drinking problem. But like and uh and I was like, and I I failed, you know. I always talk about like if I say I can I'm gonna do something, that's not crazy. Like if I say I can run a marathon, I can't run a marathon. But like if I say something reasonable that you will do, right, I will do it. I did that and I failed myself like fucking weeks in in in a row where it was just like this week, no drinking, no booze, yeah. No booze on a on a weeknight, no booze. And fucking Wednesday hits Tuesday would fucking hit. I'd be like, you know, I just had a workout. Yeah. I ate fucking properly today. One won't hurt, and then you just want to relax. Yeah, and you know me. One ain't yeah, I I am not gonna just have one. I'm having fucking sex with. You gotta get a buzz. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy. So, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:51

No one smokes weed to feel sober. Yeah, that's the thing.

SPEAKER_01 31:53

Like, when people talk about drinking, they're they're like, I'm like, no, I want to get a little tipsy, feel a little buzz, and they're like, why? Why do you have to? I'm like, what a fuck are you drinking?

SPEAKER_00 32:00

Why don't we? Why would you do it? Yeah, yeah. I I don't understand. Like, I'm like, no one just smokes weed because they like the smell of taste of smoking weed. Yeah, they want to get a little bit hot. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:09

They don't have to get like fucking zooted, but like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:11

That's the same thing with drinking.

SPEAKER_01 32:13

Now, sometimes you go too hard and you don't stop. That's a different thing. Yeah, yeah. But the fact that someone's like, I'll just have one beer. I'm like, that's crazy. So crazy to me. I'm like, beer does not taste that good. Yeah, yeah. Like I can enjoy a beer, yeah, but that's not.

SPEAKER_02 32:27

So crazy to me where it yeah, like Martinez. It's like, what's the point of doing dad beer?

SPEAKER_00 32:33

Yeah, what's even it's three percent.

SPEAKER_01 32:36

I'm like, what's the even I mean, I guess I guess the logic of the dad beer is that like you can drink a shitload of them without getting too bad. Oh, yeah. But it's also like, this is made for like the kind of person who likes to kill a six-pack by themselves. Yeah, yeah. It's made for me. Yeah, that's what it's for. It's like I want a day sesh, and I want to be able to kill a six pack without feeling guilty. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:55

But yeah, I for the life of me, I'm gonna be.

SPEAKER_01 32:57

I mean, good for you, dude. I mean, I'm I'm glad that you're like kind of living it out. You're like, I can do this. Yeah, yeah. So it's it's not, I mean, but that's why you haven't seen me out of the house because you were I know you were like, I'm trying to go get coffee, just get out of the house, I'm gonna listurping it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, I threw my back out. I'm not going nowhere that has to do with ice. Like, it's fucking crazy out there.

SPEAKER_02 33:15

It's oh yeah, I busted my ass too. I think I texted you. Did you in front of a in in front of a pretty girl too? I was fucking mad about it. We were I was leaving work and you're kind of infamous for that.

SPEAKER_01 33:25

You did in Europe? You're doing it here at home.

SPEAKER_02 33:27

Yeah, dude. Fucking hey.

SPEAKER_01 33:28

Fuck you up there.

SPEAKER_02 33:29

That's my that's my core of my personality now, just embarrassing myself in front of attractive women.

SPEAKER_01 33:33

Jesus.

SPEAKER_02 33:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:35

What a life. Someone's gotta do it.

SPEAKER_02 33:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:38

I saw uh I saw a subway take today, and it was maybe the most out-of-pocket wild one that was like I uh it was uh Shorty that was like uh more men should wear lip gloss. And I was like, I don't think I saw that one that's crazy in mind. Kareem, of course, was like, oh, I 100% agree. I was like, that's insane, dude.

SPEAKER_00 33:57

Crazy, dude.

SPEAKER_01 33:58

Lip gloss.

SPEAKER_00 33:59

You know, you know, I'm sorry, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 34:01

I'll be the first one to go against like toxic, patriarchy, like homophobia shit. Yeah, but come on, dude. Lip gloss in general is kind of gross.

SPEAKER_02 34:08

Dude, it's taking a sip of any you see a lady who's been like out eating somewhere, like out getting drinks with people that have like lip gloss and that fucking cup is looking like. It looks frosty. It looks disgusting.

SPEAKER_01 34:21

It looks so gross. And I'll what are you talking about, ma'am?

SPEAKER_02 34:26

Even when I'm just putting chapstick on, and this is the the oily. This is this is no, this is just like the toxic part of me. You know the part where you go, yeah, yeah, rubbed him lips too. I'd like I I put a little bit of chapstick on and I look around like 360 degrees, make sure there's nobody looking at me before I fucking It's like eating a banana. If you ain't got a knife to cut that banana, yeah, you gotta roll that shit like you're like you're eating candy, like you gotta pop it in your mouth like you're eating candy. Yeah, MMs and shit.

SPEAKER_01 35:01

Dude, you're eating a banana, you're taking a look around. If you're by yourself, you're taking a look around. Oh man. It's insane. Yeah, that I don't know. I saw that subway take today and I was like, fuck that.

SPEAKER_02 35:12

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 35:12

Um, did you get a chance to see uh Bone Temple? Pause. No, I was gonna go. Yeah, me neither, man. It was after I threw my back out and fucking uh wanted to see it.

SPEAKER_02 35:22

There was a oh, I was gonna go the night of the Super Bowl. And then my parents were like, oh, we're throwing a thing here for all of our friends, and I was like, Well, if I come back before the Super Bowl is done, uh, I'm not gonna have anywhere to fucking park. So I'm just gonna hunger down. I fucking went to sleep at like 9 p.m. night of the Super Bowl. Woke up.

SPEAKER_01 35:40

You don't watch the halftime show?

SPEAKER_02 35:41

I woke up and YouTube fucking Bad Bunny halftime show, and that was all I needed. I was like, and I'm glad because apparently the game was fucking.

SPEAKER_01 35:49

I mean, you miss an awful Super Bowl. Yeah. Um well, I mean, I heard the second half picked up, but it was clearly dominant. I mean, the first half was brutal, dude. I mean, it was fucking like an hour and a half of three field goals.

SPEAKER_00 35:58

I was like, Jesus Christ, dude, it was brutal.

SPEAKER_01 36:01

It was just three and out, three and out, three and out, three and out, three and out, punt, field goal, punt, punt, punt, field goal, punt, punt, punt, field goal right before the end.

SPEAKER_02 36:09

That's fucking. That was the first half.

SPEAKER_01 36:10

Thankfully, the second, I mean, the score ended up being like 27-13, so there were some points scored, but yeah, Seahawks were pretty dominant the majority of the game. Um, yeah, I mean, it wasn't it wasn't great football to watch. I mean, you know, and and of course, like we were talking about it at work, and there's got to be some fucking purist in the Well, good defense wins games.

SPEAKER_00 36:27

I'm like, it doesn't make it for entertaining. Yeah, nobody's gonna be able to do that. No one fucking wants to watch a 9-0 half. That's fucking you know who wants to watch that?

SPEAKER_02 36:35

Shane Gillis. That's who wants to watch that shit.

SPEAKER_01 36:38

I'm like, it was like drunk and pounding beers and like uh plate of wings in front of me, but like I don't that was.

SPEAKER_02 36:44

Nobody who didn't play actually play football on a team in high school, unless you did that or higher, gives a shit about good defense.

SPEAKER_01 36:54

Like, yeah, it wasn't even like they were forcing fumbles and interceptions, good defense. It was just like just brick passes uh a run that goes nowhere. Yeah, it's like that's not fucking I don't want to watch that shit, dude. Like it's a yeah, I mean as a spectator, I'm like, fuck this. The commercials were also ass. Oh, were they? Shout out Bad Money. I mean, the fucking halftime show was fire. It was good. I was even one who going into it, I was like, all these memes, people hyping it up. I was like, it's the halftime show, dude. Like, what do you really like still surpassed all my fire?

SPEAKER_02 37:24

Fire. He was wearing white pants, so that's kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_01 37:27

It was beige. It was a beach.

SPEAKER_02 37:29

Well, maybe my YouTube is uh maybe my TV is fucked up, but uh Gaga sounded incredible.

SPEAKER_01 37:34

Yeah, Ricky Martin sounded incredible. Ricky I saw Ricky Martin pop and I was like dude, I'm like, dude, what I'm like recommended. I'm like, I'm not big plastic surgery dude, but let me know who Ricky Martin's going.

SPEAKER_02 37:44

Yeah, because I'm incredible, dude. Um he looks the same.

SPEAKER_01 37:47

Like he look he looks better than he did when he was made Living Like the Loca, bro. Um he sounded great. Um that was the one thing too, like, because you know, the last two Super Bowls, the artists I've been excited about just sounded bad. Like, even going back to like the weekend, this was right after blinding lights. Yeah, and he put up all that money and the it was during COVID, so like it was empty, but like the production value and like the themes and all like the visuals were so cool. Yeah, but for some reason it just sounded like ass. And I'm like, it I don't know what's going on with this. Like, it just didn't translate well. And the same thing with Kendrick, like Kendrick's like I love the the idea behind it, the visuals, like the set designs, like everything he did, but he's got this thing where like on his last album, um, you know, when he did GNX, he does this kind of like breath of thing where he raps and it doesn't sound good live. I'm sorry, because I and I I remember watching it and being like, is it just me? And then Sizza started singing, and I was like, Oh, it's it's the vocals. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because Sciza sounds incredible. Yeah, Scissza sounded amazing, you know, even with backing tracks. And yeah, I was like, Kendrick, this is not great for a live show. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_02 38:52

Yeah. But I think I'm just done with until like unless like somebody has like a somebody who's like we were talking about this.

SPEAKER_01 38:59

Like, who who is who do you think can like who do you think can bring who you who of all the artists like the most people together, who do you think could do it? I'd like I said, I think Biebs. Beebs, maybe I think there's not a lot of people who are like anti-Bieber.

SPEAKER_02 39:13

I don't know. There's a I was one at one point when I was like being a a spiteful jacket, not spiteful, but just like converted, like most people.

SPEAKER_01 39:20

Yeah, I I mean no one I I wasn't listening to Bible. I was surprised when you said uh when you said Beyonce got some fucking hate online or whatever, but it's just it's just the alt-right chuds who see a black woman and do some Black Panther shit and they're like fucking you remember uh black radicals, uh they get mad about everything, dude.

SPEAKER_02 39:37

That band wet leg. I think we were hanging out outside, and uh it's just like a really poppy kind of like I I played the whole album front to back and we didn't hit skip, and you were like, Oh, this is pretty good. Anyways, they came out with uh they came out with another album. Okay. And out of nowhere, like I saw a Reddit article and it was like, Why do people give a shit about wet leg? They're fucking trash. And I was like, I was like, what? And then like something a bunch of comments agreeing about how like fucking how their lyrics are dumb and they're just like having a poppy good time. I was like, that's why people listen to that music.

SPEAKER_00 40:12

Like what the fuck do you want with pop music?

SPEAKER_02 40:15

Like fucking it's it's a fucking good time. What are we fucking doing here? You want to go listen to a mortal technique? Yeah, go fucking that. Yeah, no, yeah, sorry, dude. You're scaring the hose. You're scaring the hose. That was one of the first, like, uh because I don't get a lot of the like I said, my Reddit is just like makes me smile and shit like that. So like I don't get a lot of the hate the deep discussion shit. The the the hate stuff. Like I just don't get a lot of it. So I'm like, I was like, that's the first time I've seen some of the like the this is obviously just people being mad at like young women doing having young women shit. Yeah, having fun, being popular, making music. Yeah, I was like, this is fucking crazy.

SPEAKER_01 40:49

Yeah, that's nuts. But but yeah, I I'm trying to think of anyone who hasn't done it that would like get a great reception.

SPEAKER_02 40:55

Like Biebes would be pretty good.

SPEAKER_01 40:56

I think I think Bieber would be like the only clear one in my mind.

SPEAKER_02 40:59

He could probably come out with like a decent amount of like cool possible features to has Bruno done one?

SPEAKER_01 41:05

He did, he did, right? Yeah, okay. Because someone someone was talking about Anderson Pac, and I was like, he doesn't have the the the like the huge, like yeah, very devoted fan base, but I think musically, I think he'd do a great lot. He'd do a great job, I think he'd yeah, he'd do a great. I mean, he he did drumming at uh you know the the West Coast, yeah, yeah, yeah. He he did yeah. Uh I think Pac I think Anderson Pak would do a a decent one. I'm trying to think, uh, but fuck man, I don't know. Like, like I said, with the death of the monoculture, like it's hard to find one person that fucking bridges that gap who's not like a legacy artist who like just kind of gets like grandfathered in. Usher was one of the. He's transcended generations. I mean, he went from RB to like EDM and you know, yeah, for the most part made it. T Pain, maybe I don't know if he has enough.

SPEAKER_02 41:52

I think he could. I mean, I think Bad Bunny's show was 13 minutes and some change.

SPEAKER_01 41:58

And he was he was doing like three songs at a time. So I mean Bad Bunny would squeezing him in.

SPEAKER_02 42:03

I think T Pain could fill out like a 15-minute set.

SPEAKER_01 42:06

But top five, top five, T Pain, you gotta hear the Super Bowl. So buy you a drink, obviously. Yeah. Uh I'm Sprung.

SPEAKER_02 42:14

I'd have to go, yeah, that's definitely in there.

SPEAKER_01 42:16

Okay, so buy you a drink, I'm sprung. Uh Can't Believe It, maybe have Lil Wayne come out. Yeah. Oh, I can't believe it. Yeah, yeah. Uh okay, after those three, I'm kind of like I'm kinda yeah, I'm kinda lost. I know T Pain's music, I'm just like, I don't because I feel like he was on a feature, he was on so many features. Like a lot of DJ Khaled shit, like I'm so hood. Bartender. Um bartender, okay. Yep, that's four. Uh I'm in love with a stripper. I don't know if you do have a Super Bowl. You think you could dance? I'm in love with a dancer. That's I'm in love with a dancer. You do I'm in love with a dancer. Yeah. Okay, that's five.

SPEAKER_02 42:46

Yeah. I gotta say, now let me stop before you send me to HJL.

SPEAKER_01 42:51

No, no, no.

SPEAKER_02 42:52

Uh I was like the most uh attentive I've been to the background dancers in a while with Bad Bunny being.

SPEAKER_01 42:59

You know what I actually didn't really I was more caught up on seeing who the celebrity cameos were.

SPEAKER_02 43:03

Oh, uh except for there was uh one and if you suck your thumb, suck your thumb, it's all good. But it did catch me off guard, especially like him being from Puerto Rico. There was like one moment where they kind of hone in on like two dudes kind of. Oh, on the truck? Yeah. In the truck. I know. And I was like, and I was like, all good, but like I mean, you're talking about a guy who uh, you know, like kissed one of his backup dancers on stage. I mean, it's you know, he's always been very supportive of it just it yeah for for the Super Bowl, you thought it was a little bit more. Not for the Super Bowl, just like for uh as much of a like You're talking about like the the machismo Latin culture?

SPEAKER_01 43:44

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where it's like that's why that's one of the reasons why I do love Bad Bunny and I embrace him more than most reggaeton artists, because he defies that convention. And he's just so talented and makes such great music that like even the most homophobic of Latinos still love. Become undeniable. It's undeniable. You're still gonna rock today. His shit, you still bop to it. Um, yeah, the the the trivia in the back. Oh my god, can we just talk about Jessica Alba? Woman has not aged. You didn't see in the background?

SPEAKER_02 44:09

No, hell no.

SPEAKER_01 44:09

In the front of the house, they had a whole like rogues gallery of people. It was Jessica Alba, Cardi B, uh Becky, not Becky G, Carol G, Pedro Pascal. Shit. It was like a who's who in front of the house. Like because he's been doing that at his shows where he has that as a set. Yeah. But uh yeah, Jessica Alba looked incredible. Yeah, I'm like this woman, her, Ricky Martin. I'm like, damn man, like all these people that I grew up with look better than I do. I'm like 20 years younger than them. Hey man. I'm like, fuck. You know, I need a good plastic surgeon. He needs, yeah, he needs to be money. Yeah. I've been a denier my whole life.

SPEAKER_00 44:41

I've been like, I don't fuck with that Botox shit. I'm like, damn, man.

SPEAKER_02 44:44

Here's the thing, once you once you start seeing fucking I might need a few units. Once you start seeing it done fucking well, yeah, yeah, yeah. That shit.

SPEAKER_01 44:57

Everyone who watched the Super Bowl halftime show and immediately recognized Ricky Martin, probably time to get your blood work done.

SPEAKER_02 45:04

Yeah. I had to I had to check myself. I was watching it as I was walking on the treadmill in the morning. Uh-huh. And I was like, that Ricky.

SPEAKER_01 45:13

That's Ricky Martin.

SPEAKER_02 45:14

And I like I like picked my phone up, fucking stumbled. I was like, Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:18

Is that Ricky? Yeah, yeah. I was gonna say shit. I mean, I if I was on Cauji, I would have bet Mark Anthony would have been a lock as guest performer. And I would have been totally wrong. I would did not think Ricky Martin and Lady Gaga were gonna be the guest performers.

SPEAKER_02 45:30

Lady Gaga came out of a little like kind of out of nowhere.

SPEAKER_01 45:34

I was like, Yeah, I love it. I like Gaga. Incredibly talented. I like some of the Gaga songs. Yeah. I don't know what the fuck was about cameras, but um Gaga's incredibly talented. Uh she got a schnazz. Yeah. She gets a thumbs up in my book.

SPEAKER_02 45:50

Rip uh James Vanderbeek.

SPEAKER_01 45:51

He saw that yeah this week yeah, man, what a shame.

SPEAKER_02 45:55

Unfortunate. Yeah. I saw him in like little bit things where he was kind of playing himself and it looked like he was having a good time. So I think like he did like uh there was that show called Don't Trust That Bitch in 34D or some shit like that. It was yeah, and he was just playing himself and seemed like he was having a good fucking time.

SPEAKER_01 46:15

Yeah. Uh Catherine O'Hara.

SPEAKER_02 46:17

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:18

Yeah, that's a big one, dude. Both both from cancer. Such a bitch, dude. I mean, I think uh she died of like uh edema, edema, uh not pulmonary, what is it? Uh embolism. Embolism, that's not a pulmonary edema. Um, but it was induced by uh rectal cancer. I'm like shit, man.

SPEAKER_02 46:36

I think wasn't that the same thing, rectal cancer with it.

SPEAKER_01 46:39

Wasn't it to be too? Yeah, I think it was yeah, I remember people like comparing it being like, yeah, it's a it's a bitch, dude. But uh that's uh yeah, man. Death comes in threes. I'm sure there's one more coming. Yeah, you never know. Why can't there was someone it was like uh on black people Twitter on the subreddit, and someone was like, Man, there'd be one thing that would make this like Black History Month great. And everyone was like, It would. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:02

God forbid if it happened. You know, like I mean What else? What else? What else? Oh, I've been catching up on some media.

SPEAKER_01 47:08

Uh yeah, you've been watching uh fucking Shrinking. Shrinking's new season. New season. Um I've been watching uh a knight of the seven kingdoms. Oh, how's that? Uh You like a Knight's Tale? Yeah, it's a Knight's Tale. Okay. It's not the grand it's so that's the big thing. It's a it's a it's a novella about a knight wandering the land, and it's basically a night's tale. Okay. His his former he's a squire of someone who dies, and he decides to pick up a shield, and he's like, I'm on. Oh, I'm in. Okay. Great. Yeah, we're in, I'm in. Um also the the showrunners have just a lot of good vibes from them about how they feel about the source material, their work with George R. R. Martin being dedicated to like getting it right.

SPEAKER_02 47:52

Um, still hasn't fucking released that last book, has he? Winds of Winter, he'll never finish it.

SPEAKER_01 47:59

I mean, you gotta think. I think he finished his last book in '98.

SPEAKER_02 48:03

Yeah, Jesus.

SPEAKER_01 48:04

It's not happening. I d we'll never get an end to uh Song of Ice and Fire. I've I've let that go. But uh uh A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms is a complete story, but uh it's it's a night's tale, basically. It's a character drama rather than the grand arching land of dragons and fucking fantasy epic. No, it's it it's uh it's a character drama, and it's really good so far.

SPEAKER_02 48:25

I haven't watched anything like new new, but I've caught up on the things that I should have so like the only thing new new I watched was because Matt Damon and Ben Affleck did a movie together, the Netflix joint called The Rip, I think it is.

SPEAKER_01 48:38

They said that of all the Netflix productions, the first one that feels like an actual real movie. Yeah, it really is. Yeah, yeah. I think it's like three hours. I think it's pretty long, isn't it? It's not three hours.

SPEAKER_02 48:49

I think it might be two and some change, but it's not like crazy long.

SPEAKER_01 48:52

Okay. Um I I skimmed over it and I was like, I might throw it on when I want to.

SPEAKER_02 48:56

I'll give it like a solid, like I always do the letter grades more than I do like.

SPEAKER_01 49:00

What's it like an operator film?

SPEAKER_02 49:01

Or it's a heist. I think it's a heist, isn't it? It's like a uh a heist mixed in with like uh how do I it's kind of like a a suspense about it.

SPEAKER_01 49:12

Give me give me a s and give me a brief give me a Wikipedia uh paragraph.

SPEAKER_02 49:15

I'll hit you with the the Wikipedia paragraph. The opening of it. So it's about a team who's uh captain, I think captain. Is this a is it a military or like a like a criminal? Miami cops. Okay. Uh who gets killed. Okay. And it opens on the FBI interviewing the team on like what do you think happened type shit. And then Matt Damon's character, who is, I guess, like the next leader of this team, says that there's a rip going on, which is like them going in and just like fucking taking all the money and drugs and all that kind of shit. Rip and run, baby. Yeah. They're gonna go in and confiscate all their shit, and then this is like another rip. But then he starts doing shady shit. Like telling different people different amounts of money. It's the shield. It's yeah, yeah, yeah. So like it's just like a case study about like semi-corrupt.

SPEAKER_01 50:11

Corrupt law enforcement, yeah, yeah, yeah. And like the complications and the implications that come with that.

SPEAKER_02 50:16

Yeah, exactly. Okay, cool. Um and then Caught Stealing. Saw that with uh with Austin Butler and Zoe Kravitz.

SPEAKER_01 50:25

Oh man, that look Bad Bunny's in it. Oh, he is, yeah, yeah, yeah. That looked hilarious, slash like very good. It was very good. I like it, I liked it a lot. I gotta I gotta watch. I saw it, I saw the trailer for it when we went to go see 28 years later. Yeah. And uh I it looked fun. Yeah, it was it was pretty fun.

SPEAKER_02 50:40

Yeah, Zoe Kravitz looks fun. She sure does.

SPEAKER_01 50:42

Yeah, she seems like an enjoyable person to be around.

unknown 50:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:46

Frankenstein.

SPEAKER_01 50:47

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:49

Yeah, saw that. Okay. It was long, but like I That's what she said. Yeah. Hopefully. Um it it was it was too long to do. It was a Netflix production, right? Yeah, if Oscar Isaac. Guillermo Guillermo del Toro is gonna do a Frankenstein movie, he's gonna probably make it fucking long because it's based on a fucking novel.

SPEAKER_01 51:11

Is that not the Guillermo de Toro one?

SPEAKER_02 51:13

It is, it is. It all is. That's what I'm saying. Like, there's no shot that he's gonna like tighten up Frankenstein. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, he's gonna go through it. So that was pretty good. Is despite the runtime. Did you watch Nosferatu? No. You didn't watch Nosferatu? Okay.

SPEAKER_01 51:26

Not yet. That was the other, like that and Frankenstein coming around at the same time. I was like, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:31

Okay. Uh went back and watched Superman.

SPEAKER_01 51:34

Uh James Guns? Yep. Heard was great.

SPEAKER_02 51:36

Fantastic.

SPEAKER_01 51:37

Uh yeah. And then probably anti-Israel shit. Hell yeah. Probably my favorite was pro-Palestine propaganda.

SPEAKER_02 51:44

Wake Up Dead Man. It was the next knives out movie. And have you seen all of them? Yeah. Okay. Um, the second one some people didn't like. I thought it was still pretty good. Oh, is that glass onion? Yeah. I think, yeah, okay. Which sounds like it's like a sounds dirty. Sounds like a has some kind of sexual connotation. Glass onion for some reason. But um Wake Up Dead Man kind of like goes back to a fan, you a fan, you a fan?

SPEAKER_01 52:11

Okay. Glass onion sounds sexual. All right. Uh 69 God over here.

SPEAKER_02 52:16

Wake Up Dead Man goes back to kind of like a it's like more rooted. Is this nice out? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:22

Okay, I've never seen any of these. FYI. Oh wow. Yeah, I'm I'm that's the first one is fantastic. Everyone raped about it. My parents loved it.

SPEAKER_02 52:29

Everyone this one goes back and it has to do with like a the typical there's like it has to do with the church. There's like somebody who's like young, up and coming, and just wants to fucking do the right thing and be a good di good fucking priest. And there's like somebody old.

SPEAKER_01 52:44

Is it the Catholic church? Like he's like a cardinal or something. Okay, okay, gotcha.

SPEAKER_02 52:47

And uh and there's like this old fucking priest that's running his own fucking parish out in the middle of nowhere and he's just kind of an asshole. Okay. And it it's a it's a good movie. Okay. Um nice. And then oh, uh ASAP came out with the ASAP Rocky came out with his album.

SPEAKER_01 53:05

Oh, oh yeah. Very off the very off the wall, very out of left field. Yeah, yeah. Very reminded me of Uzi's like thing where he just like totally just like wanted to play with different types of music and shit that he liked. Did you like it? Yeah, I've heard that it didn't really stick, but it's it's fun to see him experience. I like it, but like I liked a lot of the songs. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 53:26

There was a couple parts of it where I'm like, I let real life get in the way of like uh a rap song. Okay. Where like in what way, yeah. He'll go out on like there was a couple bars, and it's not even like it's a focal point of the album, but the couple bars where he's like talking about like some like being hard shit, you know what I mean? And I'm like, I'm like, you're uh your lady's a billionaire. Yeah. You're a dad. You're a dad now, and your lady is a billionaire.

SPEAKER_01 53:54

You don't know I mean, rap's kayfabe, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 53:56

I mean it's kayfabe like I said, I I shouldn't have let it interrupt I did it did fucking, I was like, whoa, way, like fucking.

SPEAKER_01 54:04

That was me listening to Birthday Blizzard with J. Cole, you know, still still going hard on like I'm the illest rapper. Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, yeah, but then you jumped in the beef and kind of were like nope, never mind, water's too hot. Like you burned your hand on the pot and you fucking stepped out. So you kind of but anyway, no, but I mean, what is rap other than what are the quintessential aspects of rap other than Braggado? Yeah, yeah. K-fabe is, you know, it's a it comes with the territory. But um, have you listened to Nicole's album yet? I did not. I'm not gonna lie, I was super stoked. I listened to Birth, I'm not a big J. Cole guy, but when I Birthday Blizzard dropped, um, I don't know if you've listened to it, Birthday Blizzard, uh, he basically dropped like a 10-minute like mixtape, and it's essentially like he has DJ Clue host it. Okay. So it sounds like some shit from like 2001 where it's like DJ Clue, Clue. Okay, dope. Yeah, I think it's like the mixtape. Yeah, and he basically freestyles over a bunch of like classic 90s like hip hopies. It's great. It was like kind of the precursor to the album. I was like, love this. Just want to hear J. Cole rap, rappy rap. That's what I want to hear. I want to hear rappy rap. And he just spits bars. Um, what did he say? Um he has some just absolute just laugh, laugh out loud uh uh lines on there. What was one of them? Uh uh K's pop like Asian fans. Great, it's great shit like that. And I'm like, oh hysterical. Like sounds like some grind time battle rap bars. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um I like that texted uh Dev about it. Yeah, I was like, yo, it was a great preview. And then the album dropped, and uh it's like a 24-track double disc. I'm like, man, I was like, Cole, I can't what you do.

SPEAKER_02 55:40

Dude, I know I can't do it. I know I talk about how like how like the youth's brain is fried and they don't have an attention to the stuff. The brain rod generation, but like quality over quantity. Same thing for me.

SPEAKER_01 55:51

Like, I don't have the patience for I have never seen anyone drop a double disc successfully. There's no one in existence who can drop 24 songs of consistent heat that I'm gonna listen to. I don't understand. I'm just not gonna do it.

SPEAKER_02 56:05

Like, what? I'm like, leave them wanting more. That's the rule number one with most art. Like, leave them wanting more.

SPEAKER_01 56:13

10 to 12, yeah, do a deluxe. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 56:16

Do a second deluxe, whatever, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:18

And and keep a recurring cash flow. Yeah, dude. Don't give me 24 two and a half hour album of fucking lyrics.

SPEAKER_02 56:25

Jesus Christ. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:26

Like, and and it's coal. I gotta listen to the fucking lyrics. I can't just be like, oh, this is groovy.

SPEAKER_01 56:31

I can't, dude. I can't put it on his background or they gotta listen. It's so, you know, I haven't listened to it yet, but I'm like, fuck it, that's fucking right. And this is his last album, so I feel obligated. I'm like, I kind of got to, because he's been talking about the Fallout for fucking years now, and I'm like, you know, I've never been the big, like I said, the biggest Cole fan, but he's one of the few that like bar for bar is lyrically arguably the best of his time.

SPEAKER_02 56:54

Yeah, I put him up there, I put him put him pretty high up there to be honest.

SPEAKER_01 56:57

If you ask me who's gonna spit a hotter 16 on a beat, it's him over Kendrick 10 out of 10 days. Who's gonna make a better album? I'm sorry, it's Kendrick.

SPEAKER_02 57:04

Kendrick, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:05

It's song structure versus like just spitting. Yeah, yeah. I want to I like Hole. I like that kind of rap. It's definitely there for like the boomerheads, but like I'm like, come on, man.

SPEAKER_02 57:14

Forest Hill Drive was like one of the last albums where I was like, oh, that and it had no features. I don't know why. Do you know that? I don't know why that's such a big fucking draw for people. I'm like, dude, okay, it didn't have any features. Good for the good for him. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 57:33

Um are you watching The Pit? I have not season two dropped. Man, I've I've heard rave reviews. Um, I gotta get back on HBO. Um, unfortunately, I can't use your account anymore.

SPEAKER_02 57:44

I was gonna say, I was like, uh it made me sign, it made me sign into the thing, and I was like, fuck.

SPEAKER_01 57:49

Nah, I went to use it one day and it was like, you're clearly in two locations. What are you doing? And I was like, I logged out instantly. I was like, I I didn't I I gotta text you, I was like, all right, we can't use this anymore. So um I gotta watch season one because Celeste watched it, but uh season two is dropped and they said it's even better than season one, and I'm like, fuck man, that show won so many awards. I'm like, I gotta get on it.

SPEAKER_02 58:07

Uh the pit's supposed to be the medical drama thing. Uh I know it's supposed to be elevated or whatever because it's HBO, but I'm just like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 58:14

I mean, it's gruesome, dude. I watched like a little bit of it and I was like, damn, this is kind of I'll put it this way.

SPEAKER_02 58:19

There's so many shows that I've neglected to watch that I gotta get through before I like go into something like the pit.

SPEAKER_01 58:25

Really liking shrinking season three? Yeah, pretty good so far.

SPEAKER_02 58:29

Oh, you started watching it too?

SPEAKER_01 58:30

Yeah, yeah. I'm caught up. I'm caught up. Uh new, yeah. I I so I the Wednesday drop fucked me up. Yeah. I turned I I didn't know we watched Wednesday's episode already. So like yesterday I went to turn it on, and it was like new episode drop Wednesday. I'm like, it's fucking Thursday. How is the new episode? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Celeste was like, we watched it yesterday, man. And I'm like, fucking Christ, man. Like I so good seeing Michael J. Fox on something again, dude. And like what a cool character for him to be playing, especially with like Harrison Ford and like the awareness for Parkinson's. Um Harrison Ford, too, is just fucking phenom dude. I mean, what a what like a great victory lap for his career to be in a project like this. Uh I'm not gonna lie, man, the scene where he like hands off uh fighting through tears. I'm watching it with Celeste, and I'm like, I'm good. I'm like, I'm good. Just sitting, I'm sitting on the other end of the couch just trying to like not cry.

SPEAKER_02 59:19

Like somebody's cutting onions in this bitch, like fucking.

SPEAKER_01 59:22

Dude, I mean, like I said, man, like I felt the mortality the other day, man, fucking taking a fall. So I'm like, I I know what that I'm like, damn, man. That's a that's a bitch.

SPEAKER_02 59:30

Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. Seeing Harrison Ford like start him and Sam Elliott are the two people wherever Realizing his end. Now I'm seeing both of them like I'm like, dude, I don't know how much longer we got with these guys.

SPEAKER_01 59:42

There's a lot of there's a lot of motherfuckers in our lifetime that are gonna die. Yeah. Like Morgan Freeman.

SPEAKER_00 59:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 59:48

Denzel.

SPEAKER_02 59:50

Denzel.

unknown 59:50

Damn.

SPEAKER_01 59:51

Like you said, Harrison Ford.

SPEAKER_02 59:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 59:53

Tom Hanks, probably.

SPEAKER_02 59:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 59:56

There's a lot of super Anthony Hopkins. I mean, like, dude, yeah, yeah. Some of these like just people who have and it's like, I feel like it's the inner unk in me that's gonna that tells me that I'm like, can this next generation live up to that? Because I look at the new generation of acts, I think there's some really good ones. I think there's some real, some real talented, you know, craftsmen out there who really respect the craft, but also I think things have changed so much in the way we consume and the way films are marketed and written and you know produced that I'm like, do we get those like people who you know when you look at someone who who grinded it on Broadway, did the play and the stage and the stage stagecraft, and you know, brought that to the big screen and worked on these indie product, and it's like I don't know, man, because it's like even nowadays, like A24 had the prestige of being like this craft, like really, and now the brand has become so big that I feel like it's naturally blossomed and and good for them. I mean, they built their craft and they built the prestige the right way. Yeah, they deserve to reap all the benefits of that, but I feel like I don't know, like I look at like who's the next A24. Is it neon? Is it I don't know, man. Like, do you think A24 is still the A24? No, like yeah, right? I don't I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:12

Film's a weird the other thing is also like I don't know that they should have I know that's the goal of any business is to grow and you know pop out more and more and more, but back when we had like two, three good A24 studios, yeah, films a year.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:29

True art house studio output.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:30

And you made sure you watched every single one of them.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:33

Yeah, you saw A24 and you were like, gotta see it.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:35

Now they're like an A24 film a month, and I'm like, dude, I don't I'm not gonna fucking watch all the you know if it piques my interest, but yeah it's not like I see A24 and I'm like, oh, this is about to be fire.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:44

This is about to be fire.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:45

Go back five, six years, every single thing the A24 dropped, it was like, I'm gonna go watch this because it's gonna be good.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:53

And I feel like that's happened in everything now. Like it's like it's in music. Like you used to see like Rockefeller, you're like gotta listen to that, bro. You see young money, yeah, gotta go. That's gonna be hot. Yeah, you know, it's the same thing with films, it's the same thing with shows, the same thing with channels. You know, a new HBO show drops, you're like dash 25 and it it doesn't have the weight like a like the brand recognition now. Yeah, it's like I I feel like it there's such a desire, it's just like you gotta put something out. Yeah, it doesn't matter what it is, yeah. There's no curation to the output anymore of a lot of media, and I'm like, like I said, and it could be the inner unk in me, just me aging out and just being like, you know, maybe I don't, or or maybe it is just a change in the zeitgeist and the way culture is, but we didn't mention, we've had the conversation, like who's the next young actor?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:39

Like the the Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:40

Like I said, I saw the grid. I could pull that up too.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:42

We didn't I don't know if Barry uh was it Cohen? Kyogen. Kyogen?

SPEAKER_00 1:02:47

I read it Kyogen, but it could be Cohen.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:49

Yeah. I he was on that. I think that's my guy. Like, that's like almost everything he's done, except for the fact that he's in this new uh Crime 101.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:59

Uh what's the salt uh salt burn?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:01

You watched it? I did not watch it yet. No.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:03

I I have had so many recommendations for that film, and I'm like, I keep it it looks a little sensational. Like I keep seeing tidbits of it, and I'm like, is this uh is this supposed to is this supposed to be like a shocking, like a shock factor film, or is it but he's been in a few movies that like um like Killing of a Sacred Deer, Fire, Banshees of Maneshiron, Fire, American Animals, which not a lot of people. Yeah, he was vagrant in Green Knight.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:33

Okay. Uh there yeah, he's in a bunch of movies as he's kind of like the you know what? I think he's like the new John Bernthal. Where John Bernthal was in so many things as like little parts, but I'm like, this guy I'm gonna do. But he's memorable in everything you see in him. Yeah, yeah. Like he's obviously choosing the right fucking things to do. Even if he's a smaller part, he's choosing the right thing to do instead of being like the main and some trash shit. You know what I mean? Did you watch uh The Bear, the newest?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:02

Four, I think, season four? What did it drop recently? Uh I think the Bear season four dropped. Oh shit. I saw the season four twenty twenty-two.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:13

The last whole season that came out, I didn't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:15

Season expected summer twenty twenty-six. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, the last yeah. So yeah, season four.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:20

Yeah, I saw the whole thing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:21

I finished season three, I haven't watched season four. Yeah, I remember we were talking about it. You liked it? Yeah. I think I may just have to go back and just watch it. I didn't hate season three, I just felt like it meandered a little bit too long before getting anywhere. Um I thought the flashback episodes were great. Um, you know what?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:38

I think that's those are the only flashback episodes that I appreciate. I'm not typically you're not a fan, right? How they break up the narrative and just stall the pot. I'm like, oh yeah, you just wanted to make an extra extra episode so you can make an extra however much money, you know, but seeing how she met Carmi's brother, dude, and like dude, like just it's such a beautiful moment.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:55

Yep. And it just yeah, so good. Cause like it's so interesting, like you you it's like the character who John Bernthal plays is like someone who is his entire uh characterization is entirely external. It's all memories of people because he's dead by the time he comes into the story. And so, like, for you to get these just little tidbits of moments to realize the kind of person he was, but then you also see in like Seven Fishes like the kind of person he can be, like in first person, like what you know it's like it's such a stark characterization, and and I think it like represents like the real humanity of a person. It's like for sure, someone in their worst and someone at their best.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:36

I'll be honest, like sometimes the people that the people that everybody kind of uh worship or hate or like have strong just have like a strong man magnetic, yeah. Those people can also be some of the fucking biggest douchebags at any given moment. You know what I mean? Like it it's kind of the give and the take of Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:55

I mean I think it also reminds you of I I think it reminds people of You know, when you think of a person, do you distill them down to their best and worst moments? I mean, how can you? Like being a person, your relationships with everyone around you, it's such a complex thing. It's like uh especially in today's society, like we we live and die on these things where like we define people on their best and worst and most notable moments. And it's like, what a what a dehumanizing thing to do. Yeah, like people are so much more complex than that, and it I think it just reminds you of what's important about being a being a person.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:28

Yeah, it's like the uh there's like a quote. This is mainly about like looking at like a a romantic partner, but it's like, yeah, they're not the person they were the last time you saw them. They're the person they were the whole time you knew. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, you gotta you can't just take if the last time you saw them they were great or they were a piece of shit. You can't fucking just yeah, boil it down to to ones and zeros. You're right, man. Because there's a lot of shit in between.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:56

Let's see. Alright, I've got a I've got a list. I don't know if this is the same chart I saw, but we've got Barry Key in there. Yep. Um, who's homeboy who played Nate on uh Nate on the fuck is it? The Zendiah show.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:13

Euphoria. Oh, oh. Is that the Frankenstein mother? The handsome motherfucker? Yes. Uh yeah, I don't know his name, but yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:19

This guy.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:20

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:20

Okay. Him's uh he's up there. Uh Chalamet, Cersei Ronin, uh Florence Pugh, Anya Taylor Joy. Uh I don't know who this handsome squaber looking motherfucker is. What the fuck is that who the fuck is that? Uh Zendiah. Okay. Uh I've seen this dude and stuff, but I don't know his name for the life of me. I don't know. All right. We'll skip. Um Paul Mescal. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What's his name? Fucking Spider-Man.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:46

Oh, Tom Holland. Tom Holland. I'm sorry. I like him. I like him, but he's not in a name. He's not an S.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:52

Well, what oh no, never mind. I can't. What's her name again? You know her name. I'm fucking with you.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:57

No, I swear to God. You really can't remember Sidney Snee's name? I did that for you. I was about to say Sophie Sidney's. That was supposed to be a joke, specifically for you. Okay. Dude, my brain is fried.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:05

Well, Danny can Danny can tell you who this is because that's like his favorite woman of all time. Um, Austin Butler. Okay. I don't know why she's here. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:15

You know what? That's the the the that's like the lady version of the Tom Holland being included in the game.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:19

And I forget this guy's name.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:21

Great.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:21

Great great every I've liked him in everything. I just haven't seen the acting chops that are like gonna make him propelled into the next arrow. So of these people, I'm trying to think if there's anybody else. Um Denzel son. Oh yeah, Black Clans. I didn't see Tenet, but also Black Clansman. I've heard he I've heard he's actually he's got you know he's clearly the pedigree of Denzel Washington. Um trying to think anybody else young on your mind right now. Think about it. I'm gonna take a picture. Okay, so there is a name. Uh I'm not sure if this one's gonna change your perception. Uh just while I'm thinking of uh younger people. Uh Margaret Quayley. Oh yeah, yeah, she was pretty good. I feel like Quayley's had, you know, I didn't see uh what was the one she did with Demi Moore? The horror? The substance.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:03

I forgot I didn't see it. I have I literally added the some substance to my list like the other day.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:08

I was like, I heard it was uh really great though. Uh so yeah, clearly who was Homegirl who got it over her, Honora. Um, what's her name? Mikey Madison. I don't know. She won Best Actress, dude.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:21

Oh shit.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:21

You don't know Mikey Madison? Um I outside of that, the only thing I think I'd ever seen her in was Scream, like seven. Oh wow.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:28

So I'm like, yeah, this girl is uh Oh fucking speaking of Oscars, Sinners got nominated for like 16 of them.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:34

Mikey Madison's oh yeah, she won best actor over in it.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:38

I did not know that.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:39

Wow, yeah. She's got a best actress already uh at that young age. I mean, I think Inora was kind of lightning in a bottle. Um we watched it, and we me, Celeste and Zelaya, and uh I mean, we all were like kind of like we when it started, we were kind of like, what are we watching? Because like, I mean, it starts like the first 30 minutes is in a strip club, and you're like, Okay, and so I put it on. Celeste is like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_00 1:10:03

Yo, what are the I was like, no, I swear it's a good movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:07

It's like nothing but her shaking ass for like the first 30 minutes giving lap dances, and I was like, I was like, I'm sorry, like I heard this was a really good movie. Like, alright, bro. So yeah, but then by the end of the movie, me and Celeste were both like, Yeah, this was actually really good. Zelaya was asleep. He fell asleep for the last 10 minutes of it. So we stopped the movie and he immediately wakes up and he's like, Yo, what happened? And I'm like, Zelaya. He's like, No, no, no, go back, go back. I'm like, dude, it's fine. He's like, no, no, no. Come on. He's like, he's like, he's like, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:36

But what about I'm like the the desk the desperation in Zelaya's voice when he's missed something? He's like, nah, come on, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:43

Come on, come on, come on, get something. He's like, no, I'm like, all right. I'm like, I'm like, how I'm like, when did you fall asleep? So I start rewinding and it's like five minutes. He's still not. He's like, no, no, a little farther back. I'm like, Z, I'm not about to watch the last 30 minutes movie.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:55

He's like, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:56

He's like, I'm a little bit. We get to like eight to eight, ten minutes, and he's like, no, no, I remember it. All right, right here, right here, right here. Then he watched it and he was like, damn, that's crazy. Because the ending is like the last like five minutes is like incredible and really puts the whole film because it's like it's a borderline absurdist movie. Okay, it's a movie where like it's a drama, but like there's moments where like it's so silly and over the top, yeah. And you're like, what the fuck is going on in this movie? But the last five minutes of it is like an absolute heartbreaker. It's a great film. I know it was really good. I hope uh you were gonna you were mentioning something though. I I took you off track.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:35

Oh, I think it was I was gonna be like, I hope it's not like another case where like somebody gets an Oscar early on, and then like that was like lightning in a bottle, and then like I said, I think I kind of I hope that her career continues because uh I mean I I I think that was such a specific role playing like a Jersey girl type, you know, thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:56

But um, I mean she fucking killed it. Nice, and you know, so I I like I said I hope it's not lightning in a bottle. I think she fully a hundred like there were a lot of people who talked about how the substance is about an aging woman who's scared of like losing the limelight to a youth, yeah, and then this is Demi's like greatest chance at best actress, and she loses it to a younger dude. Like the the the the the uh the script writing of was like brutal. Yeah, but dude after watching the and I haven't seen the substance, so I'll a hundred percent defer that I'm probably not, but I will say that that performance in Enora was a hundred percent worthy of a best actress. I think that was incredible.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:34

Yeah, I I think I'm just out of touch in terms of like we're what we're talking about, like the next gen coming in. The next gen, like who's I think, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:40

Other than the I think Chalomet's being foisted kind of into that stratosphere. I just I gotta see the movie that does it because I haven't seen it yet. Yeah, I like him in Dune. I like him in uh I liked him in Ladybird as like the asshole fuck boy. You know, he you know, he he clearly has a bit of range. He also did the one, the medieval one, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, would you put Robert Pattinson in that age category?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:06

He's older. Okay. I think I think you could. I think he's playing. I think he's doing a movie with Zendaya as her like love interest. So like you could if you wanted to, but like you wouldn't put Chris and Stewart in there and them two that's true.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:21

Yeah, yeah, Chris and Stewart would definitely be not okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:24

I think he's uh I think he might be like the good like mid middle ground between like Leo's generation and this new generation. Yeah. I think it's him and a handful of others, but like he's done really gr like we talked about.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:38

Madison's career has been probably one of the most going from uh just one of those roles in Twilight that will completely typecast you and ruin your ability to go anywhere else in your career, and he completely defied any limitation on like boxing him in. For sure. I mean, the versatility, the just it goes back to what you picked too. Like it like for like I think. Whoever his agent is deserves I don't know if he has the same agent the whole time, but like whoever his the latter half of his career has been post-Twilight, give him all that.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:10

Like I think the next like five to seven years, it was all just little movies that like he probably didn't get paid a lot. He probably just like yeah, yeah, like let's just run it up.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:21

But even even shit that like wasn't supposed to be like that. Like when we watch Mickey 17, Celeste was blown away by just the fact that he could play fucking ten different characters on screen at any given time and just be like he seems like ten different people. Yeah, like it's just crazy. Um, but yeah, I think going back to the discussion, uh I think it's Sourcey. I don't I don't I don't think go there was another one's up there too.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:45

Oh, Anya and then Pew. I think all three of them are fucking in the uh Florence Pew Florence Pew kind of. But Barry's up there, Barry's in there too. That's my the out of the men's male out of the men, yeah, best actors. That's probably my pick. I couldn't choose between those three in terms of yeah, because I don't I haven't seen it.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:04

I didn't watch Elvis and I gotta see more Austin Butler. I I think Austin Butler might be like I don't think he's had the role that I've seen yet.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:10

To me, Austin Butler is like uh who plays Thor? Chris Hemsworth.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:15

Chris Hemsworth, 2.0 too handsome, too eye-candy too.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:19

Yeah, but like Hemsworth, I he's uh entertaining enough guy, but I don't think he has like the acting acting chops. Have you watched any of his heavy dramas? I watched like the El Royale movie or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:31

Did you watch uh what's the racing one he did? I heard that was actually a really good movie movie. Oh, yeah, I haven't seen it really. So that's really funny. So the first time Celeste and my parents were gonna meet, we were living in Lee Street, and that movie had just come out. I thought it was just a racing movie. Yeah. So they come in and like uh her parents, my parents, they both kind of arrive at the same time. So I just put the movie on and I'm like, just so something you have something in the background. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like the first 15 minutes of the movie, like a fucking scene. Dude. And I literally walked away. Yo, I my dad is like, Casey, Casey, and like I'm in the kitchen. Dad, my dad's like, yo, what is the fuck you have to think? And it's Chris Hemsworth fucking the shit out of some woman. He was like, yo, why are you showing? I was like, I didn't know, dude.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:14

I fucking freaked out.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:16

Oh my goodness. You've uh you've seen a couple episodes of like or parts of like Happen Leonard, right? Where I've just had to add it on.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:24

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:25

There were we were uh we were at Dev's house one day.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:30

Who's we? Uh me, Dev, his whole family. Oh god. Okay. I totally forgot. Like, I knew uh Leonard's character was gay. I forgot there was a fucking sex scene. There's a gay sex scene like in the first episode. So they were like, put on something kind of funny, kind of dark, whatever. Put on gay porn. And I was like, I was like, happen, Leonard. It's like dark and it's funny at the same time, like you know, it has some edge or whatever. You know, it's you know, dramedy, whatever you want to call it.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:00

There's no gore.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:01

Yeah. And they're making a couple nice. They're making like some fucking jokes, some fucking whatever, jokey jokes, and then and then two dudes just doing the fucking Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, oh Jesus Christ. It was yeah, whoops. I was like, God damn it. What else can you say? Yeah. My bad. I was like, I was like, Uncle, I totally forgot this scene was even in here. That's my bad.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:31

Yeah, like I put on gay software for Jeb's family.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:38

Yeah. Uh I think Sahel was there too. You ever heard of Tushy? Yeah. Yeah, it was uh it was it was that was my moment like that. I was like, holy shit. Right, that's insane. But uh oh man.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:53

Yeah, I was I I'm trying to think anyone else on that list that got left off, but yeah, I think it's from for the for the male roles. I don't know. I like Paul Miskal. I think he was great in Gladiator 2. Um I don't think he's done a that my issue.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:08

There's one he did with uh like with Ronan. I don't think I've seen much other than Ladybird.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:14

Like there's the one there's the one romance she did, I thought that was really good. She did it with Kate Blanchett. Is that the no? This was a while ago. Uh it's like one where like, you know, it's like the 1920s or something in New York, and like I think that might have been what she's in New York and then she goes to Ireland and she meets somebody, and like she's kind of dealing with both, and like everyone in her life's pushing her because she's Irish and she goes back to Ireland, she meets an Irish guy. I think it's uh Dom Hall Gleason. But anyway, it was a really good romance. Like everything I've seen of her, I think she's just really good.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:48

What? I did a typo, Lady Bird, but with a you and bird instead of an eye. Lady and I. Lady Bird just with a you instead of an eye, and uh in and it's a fucking cosmetic brand. Jesus Christ. I was like, can we fucking I thought that movie had Kate Blanchett in it too?

SPEAKER_01 1:19:04

It it maybe. Uh I don't remember her, but definitely shout out goes to Anya Taylor Joy, though. She's she's up there, she's had some really great roles. Uh great in The Witch, great in Split. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:17

I was just making shit up, by the way. I don't think Kate Blanchett was in that.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:20

She was great in uh the menu. She's uh she's got some she's got some solid I think I've seen probably more of the Northman. She was great in the Northmen.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:28

Yeah, I've probably seen more of her work other than Barry Cohen. Uh I'm just gonna say Cohen. I don't know how to say his last name. Um two are pretty much like the people I've probably seen the most work out of. Yeah. So those would probably be my my leaders. Okay. I'm trying to I guess I gotta s I gotta stop separating movies from TV.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:50

That's the hard one, yeah. Paul Mescal was in I forget, I thought it was a movie, it was a TV show that he did with uh this other girl that they fucking yeah, unfortunately. I'm like, I don't know, do we count shows?

SPEAKER_02 1:20:04

Yeah, well I think we have to because without that, Zendaya hasn't done anything that's like next. Film-wise, yeah, because her she was great in uh euphoria, you know what I mean? But like film-wise, she's been in the the Spider-Man, yeah, dunk movies in Spider-Man, like Dunk.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:21

God, I'm so glad that caught on.

unknown 1:20:23

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:24

You made it dunk.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:25

I love the dunk memes. I said Dune like 17 times the last time we rank now, and every single time dunk like it's dunk, dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:33

Dunk clears. She's a really good actress. I gotta uh Tessa Thompson.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:38

She's older too.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:39

She's she was in fucking Oh, what's your name? Uh from Atlanta.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:45

Dev's like favorite, Lake Stanfield. I think he's older too. I think all these people are older, yeah. I thought you were about to talk about uh homegirl from Atlanta, and I was like Oh no, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:56

I'm just I'm looking through, I'm just looking at young uh Lake. I think he's got the next like Kaylee Spaney is really good. I only saw her in Civil War, but I think she's a really good actress. We'll see if she we'll see if she does more work.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:11

Lake, I think, is the next like cool great character.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:15

I think he's a great character actor.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:16

Like there's like that, there's McConaughey, right? And he's just cool.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:22

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:22

You see him on screen and he's fucking cool.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:24

No matter he has that magnetic joke, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:26

And I think Lake has that same thing. Okay. I see him on screen, I'm like, that dude's just fucking cool.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:31

I'm with it. I'm with it. I buy it. I'm taking what you're selling.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:35

Also in Knives Out, the first one, so you should watch that fucking movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:39

Yeah, I I need to watch it. I'm fucking I'm fucking around.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:42

Anna Day Armist in there. I'm scrolling. You know that fucking beer looking at you on a Tuesday evening.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:51

Anytime you talk about Anna Day Armist, the only thing I can think of is that I still need to watch Blade Runner 2027. Because that's like the role that everyone's like talked about how she's good. Yeah. That she's like the heartbreaker, and she's like Yeah, I still gotta watch it. I am glad to know. Uh oh, and this kid ended up getting another role with that romance that he did with uh I forget the girl's name. But uh this kid from uh Black Phone. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was great in that as a child. Um I'm I'm curious to see where his career goes. Seems like he's got the chops. Yeah, outside of that, I don't know. It but yeah, I'm I'm curious to see like if we'll get the prestige that we had with you know the previous generation. I think I think because of how much access and like access.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:41

I was trying to look up like uh uh the Anade Armist like that six pack on on a Friday night. Oh yeah, and the way it looks at you. And I went up one more uh little thing that I sent myself and it's fucking degeneracy.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:56

Yeah, yeah, degen degen behavior.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:59

Uh how the pack of Marlboros look at you after a few drinks.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:03

About right. Yep. She's from Argentina.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:06

How do you know? Jesus Christ. Anyway. Anyways, yeah, let me get the fuck off my phone because I'm about to get riled up.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:22

Let's close the blinds. What else we got on our mind? What else we got in our mind? Anything else? Anything else big on lately? I mean, anything else you've been up on? Anything like I said, I just I haven't left the house much, man, just dealing with this injury. Besides that, uh, you know, Valentine's Day is tomorrow. Uh, we're keeping it low-key. Celeste is probably gonna be sick in bed, but uh just with us traveling next week, we're gonna be in Argentina, so um, yeah, just just saving some money because shit was brutal. Oh, I found out, man. Fucking getting ready to do the taxes, got my fucking uh W4 and fucking looked at it. My fucking company has not been taking state taxes out for 2025. Ooh. I was like, you motherfuckers, dude. Never caught this because it was direct deposit. And I went into my fucking portal thing and clicked it, and it was like, for some reason it said where the state deduction was, because I I filled it out in the beginning of the job. Yeah, went to fill out the form, and it was like it was like uh deductions, it was like zero invalid entry. And I'm like, motherfucker, dude. Thankfully, we did the taxes, we still get a return because A, my tuition for school, we got a huge deduction back for that, and B, because we did the solar panels. Okay, we got just in time, so we still get a return, but it's like gonna be a wash. Bro, but I was like, yo, we owed thousands of I'm like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_02 1:24:40

So I what was there like an issue with the paperwork that you submitted?

SPEAKER_01 1:24:43

Something about the portal system, because like I I literally went in as soon as Celeste noticed it, she was like, You need to talk to HR. I went into work and I fucking I went to my HR lady, I was like, listen, what the fuck? She was like, she was like, that's so weird.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:54

She was like, whatever, whatever it's like such a crazy.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:59

She was like, wow. I was like, bitch, I owe$3,000. What are you talking about? Wow.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:06

I'm like, what are you talking about, bro? She fucking, she was like, I she's like, you know what? I've seen this once, but like, I don't, I've she's like, I don't think anyone else at the company has run into that. Because here's the thing, our HR, she's outsourced. So she comes in every Tuesday. She flies in. So she's like, she's like, I she's like, Casey, I've never seen this. She's like, I've never seen this for anyone who works at she's like, I've seen it with someone at another company, not with She's like, that's real. She's like, uh that's she's like, that's wild. But she's like, go through it and check it. She's got a picture. Fucking so she she's like, yeah, she's like, I've seen that uh with one of my clients at another company. I've not seen that with anyone here. Yeah, and I was like, okay. And so she was like, Yeah, make sure you go in. And she's like, she was like, That sucks. I mean, what do you really want them to do? Is you like, yeah, we'll pay your taxes for you, Casey. No, of course not. They're not gonna do that. I should have been on top of it. But yeah, dude, like she was like, Wow.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:56

I was like, bitch, I'll do it$1,000. What are you talking about? Oh man, like that's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:02

Yeah, it is fucking crazy, but dude, like I don't fucking have anyway. But like I said, thankfully, due to the fucking solar credit that we just fucking, thank God we made that decision and my tuition, um, we ended up getting a return. So that's good. It'll it'll be a wash at the end of it, but holy shit, was that a fucking heart attack, dude? I was like, yo, yeah, I felt like on some Joe exotic shit, bro. I was like, financially, I'm never gonna recover from this. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:24

I'm fucked. I still gotta file weird thing last year where like it I didn't get a return, and I'm like, I'm putting in like the max. Like I should be getting something, but something about like interest income with the CD that I had that fucked it up and maybe like how much you got in a fucking CD?

SPEAKER_01 1:26:44

Like a fucking million dollars? What do you mean? No, no.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:46

I I don't know if I'm like just at the bottom end of one bracket or not, but I don't know what the fuck is going on. But yeah, I also don't get too uh too liberal with the burgling of the taxes.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:56

I've I've already seen it uh, you know, with Spanberger coming in and her proposing a bunch of like new tax overhauls and stuff like that. And uh I think one of the the the biggest thing was like uh an additional two percent for people making over a million. And I've already seen people being like, she's fucking raising taxes, fucking Democrats do it. And I'm like, all right.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:14

I think I've gone over it. Maybe uh I don't know if uh we talked about it on here, but there was like uh in the Indian guy group chat I'm in. Oh I dude, I can't imagine. Everybody's fucking successful.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:23

Yeah, so everyone's a millionaire. They're like, I'm raising my taxes again. This is like really I'm like, you make 700k.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:28

Yeah, and somebody, yeah, somebody was like, So if I if if I if I work hard and I make an obscene that whatever fucking multiples of a hundred thousands of dollars that that person was talking about, and I get taxed whatever fucking bullshit percentage he was talking about, you're okay with that? I was like, hundred percent.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:46

But also, if you made that much money, you would just use one of the million tax loopholes that there are. Yeah, you just invest it. Yeah, throw it, throw it into something, and then it's not taxable anymore. It's that simple. Yeah, like regardless.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:58

I I I straight up was like, yeah. I don't care if they take fifty percent of your money if you make that amount of money.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:03

If you make a million dollars and now you're limited to only five hundred thousand, I'm not crying for you. Yeah, I don't give a single shit. Like what are we fucking talking about? You're still rich. Yeah. Shut the fuck up. Like it is funny how like it's insane. As soon as the swings that everyone's like, the Democrats are already raising taxes, fucking commies. Fucking reaching. I'm like, alright, whatever. I'm like, this is it. That's all it takes, dude. Yeah. Is raise the taxes on millionaires by two percent. And yeah, apparently it's it's it we're in a communist level. It's over.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:36

I truly believe that, like, I think there's a couple things that should happen. And I think one of them is pay politicians slightly more, right? And then make it so that they are not allowed to earn them or their spouses are not allowed to earn additional income.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:54

So I I I genuinely believe that's that would be I mean Citizens United was clearly the landmark decision that changed the face of politics forever. I don't know if you're familiar.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:05

I don't know. The second I've fucking found out was that the super pack thing?

SPEAKER_01 1:29:09

Yeah. Okay, yeah. The second I found out what a super PAC. Citizens United happened where I basically said that uh corporations can donate money because money is equivalent to free speech. Yeah. Yeah. Uh and so there's no limit to how much these these companies these companies can lobby and do whatever.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:27

The second I found out what a super PAC was, I was like, I was like, Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:30

Citizens United changed the game forever in ways that like people don't understand. Um but to go back to what you were saying, yeah. I think that one thing that I I agree with you, and it's kind of a hot take because you know people think that people in Congress just make mad money. Like AOC talked about it. She has no corporate backers. Yeah. And so for her to live in DC for when Congress is in terms is like a fucking struggle. That's why that's why I was like, I can't, it's not like a yeah, that's why I prefaced it with saying like they should make a wage that allows them to function in their duty and be in term during during Congress's service.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:04

I would say even it, I think even make them relatively wealthy.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:10

It should be something where the ploy of the job itself should be its own appeal. Yeah, yeah. Like, and not in a way though, like I just want to make money, but like also like that, like risking it would be like a problem if corruption were a that's not the yeah. I agree. Okay. That's a pretty that's a pretty progressive take from you. Why do we act like I'm a fucking like I'm a fucking competitor? No, because you're mo you're you you you pose as an apolitical, but yeah, you you you exemplify and and I'm not throwing you under the bus. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna make you a target. I'm saying that uh it's a it's a fact that if you took a bunch of people, if you took a hundred people of random political backgrounds and without identifying any of them, put just legislation in front of them, yeah, the majority of people support leftist ideas and policies across the board. Yeah, yeah. Like should the government take care of people, the marketing, right? Of course, that's all it is, but it's because people have drawn their lines in the sand and they identify things as left and right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was my point. Exactly. And I think that you, as a person, try to stray more apolitical, at least as like uh identity. Because politicism honestly drives out the worst in most people. Yeah, to be honest, I just yeah I'm a leftist, but I I know that leftists are some of the most annoying fucking people. Dude, they're the worst. They're the worst. Yeah. They they are they are so fucking virtue signaling and like principled to a fault to like the fact that like they will they will they would rather ostracize they would rather ostracize someone that they could potentially convert.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:50

Just on the fact that they feel like they have to like exemplify their ideologies and be so pure and they're fucking they don't look for converts. Yeah. They don't politically, and it's the reason they'll always lose. Yeah. They'll lose in the long run.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:01

For me, it's always it's it's miserable, dude. I'm just like, dude, I shit. I had a thought and I fucking lost it. But yeah, I mean things suck.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:09

I mean, they're executing American citizens, like the Epstein files are getting crazy. I've said it, dude.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:15

A fucking million times. But like the so the the thing that actually drives me a little crazy is like the vocabulary changes. Uh POC versus what it was like person of color versus what it was before that, which I'm I guess I don't we're not supposed to say anymore, but even though it's in the NAACP s title still is the most insane thing to me. And it's fucking crazy. But Epstein is getting kind of crazy. Although somebody asked me about it the other day and I was like, dude, uh are you gonna after how much this has been fought over to actually get what whatever that we've gotten?

SPEAKER_01 1:32:54

Right. Um do you think it's gonna change anyone's mind?

SPEAKER_02 1:32:58

Change anyone's mind? Do you think that it's not just like sanitized to like fucking conveniently fucking name certain people and not name s you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 1:33:08

Like the amount of redaction.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:10

There was a there was a amount I was uh I heard something where there was like it redacted whatever program they used to redact everything, redacted don't D-O-N apostrophe T because Don Trump.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:25

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:25

And it it was just in a it was just in any context, don't tell you. It was just redacted because it was like it was like a regular sentence that don't wasn't a part of the sentence, and it just redacted it. And I was like, Well then with I'm for who's fucking.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:39

There was one email they showed that uh it had the name and it had the sender and recipient both redacted. Yes. And in the body of the email was thank you for sending those girls. I think the youngest one was 10. I loved her.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:52

And I'm like, why is this redacted? So fucking crazy. Fucking crazy.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:58

Like, what are you doing? And the thing is, like, all of these people that Donald Trump put into these positions of power, like Cash Patel and Dan Bovino, were the biggest conspiracy theorists who wanted to take it all down. Yeah, yeah. And now that they're there, they're like, Well, I don't know. He he literally went in front of Congress and was like, there was no evidence that Cash Patel is a fucking idiot. There's no he said there's no evidence that Epstein had a client list or that there was ever any sexual trafficking of anything. And I'm like, what are you talking about? I didn't even see that. The crazy thing is, like, even among even if you want to dissect into the bullshit, it's like he literally committed perjury. Yeah, there's literal evidence. Yeah, so like that's a crime. Yeah, he should be in jail. Yeah, but yeah, you know, we're in we're in funny money limit now. So funny money. I don't like I said, I don't expect normalcy or anything from this administration, but like just the fact that like all like it people fought, and and I thought that I thought that this would be the unifying force. I thought that there is one, man. It's gotta be everyone wants to see motherfuckers to go down. That's the unify uh uh because I don't know a single Democrat or liberal or progressive who's like, well, I don't know, Bill Clinton. Yeah, Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton can fuck that motherfucker.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:14

He's he's done. But yeah, that's the one thing. It's like everyone. I thought everybody was on the same page about that. Everybody hates PDF, barbing children, right? Raping women, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody is the line. Is wrong. Across the board, everybody hates. And I guess it's not anymore. But because I guess, you know. It's just like the delusion of just like if you've bought into this, whatever the fuck is it. It's the tribalism, it's the side. Yeah, yeah. It's the it's uh well Well, that can't happen because that's uh Donald Trump and it's crazy, dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:43

Yeah, and and so we saw today uh one of the uh a company in Dubai, one of the CEOs, um, resigned. He he his name was mentioned in a file uh and it was out publicly that uh he sent uh Epstein sent an email to him saying thank you for the torture video. Oh yeah, and he resigned. And people were like, uh uh a UAE CEO resigned before anyone in America saw prison time for the Epstein files. They were like, like, think about that. Yeah, like someone and he resigned. Yeah, he didn't get fired, he didn't get arrested. He literally was like, I gotta get I gotta back up because of one email.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:24

Even like the UK, like the granted the dude is still like I guess in a mansion, but he doesn't print. Yeah, he got he's done. He got yeah, and people are like, Oh yeah, but he's still just living in the fucking mansion or whatever. Like, yeah, but he's at least they are acknowledging that like you're done.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:42

I mean, yeah, the royal family was like you think you're in line for the throne, you're out of your fucking mind. Yeah, um so and a lot of people have said they were like this might be the death blow to the monarchy in general in England.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:54

To be honest, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:55

I was like, I mean, why do you still have a monarchy in fucking 2025? Like, like what royal blood are you fucking like who gives a fuck? Have you looked at your royal blood?

SPEAKER_00 1:37:05

Like motherfucker with club fingers, fucking congenital heart failure, you got dude going bald at 30. Not only that, royal blood, dude.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:14

Not only that, just the idea, the idea of having a royal family in uh in this day and age is is just insane.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:21

It's insane, man. Monarchies in 2025, even if it's just ceremonial or like remotely like I guess like statecraft, like what are we what are we doing? Who gives a shit? You know, and I'm I'm not you know, I'm not gonna comment on other countries' politics, but like if I was in England, I'd be like, what why? What are we doing? Like, what what is this? Who are you dude? Yeah, why should I give a fuck about it? Why is there anything other than democracy? Yeah, like yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean, like I said, and like you know, I think the greatest political uh philosophers of all time have said that democracy is the worst system, it's just better than all the others.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:52

Yeah, 100% agree.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:54

And that's it. I mean it is what it is, the will of the majority, and sometimes the majority's but that's just and I'll be honest too. I don't I don't know a better system. I'd I'd fucking I get drawn up a wall when we start talking about majority because I'm like, that's what should be fucking making the decisions, majority, but we got this fucking stupid ass electoral college, and people start talking to me about fucking I mean and the thing is too, like I mean, I think if if you think that there was no impropriety in the election, and I'm not gonna be there's a lot of people who are talking about how Elon Musk with the fucking voting machines and this and that, and I think that's a very slippery slope once you start talking about once you start saying the sanctity of elections is compromised, you're walking a very I think you need proof before you can make those.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:36

I don't go there, I don't go there either. I also I'm also like I was calling people fucking crazy when Biden won. I'm like they did that shit in 2016, and I'm like, nah, I'm not like I'm like, give me proof, and then we'll talk.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:48

Yeah, I'm not I'm not gonna go there. Yeah. But um, but but I I think I mean if you trust the numbers, and I'm someone who's like, until you show me otherwise, the numbers are the numbers. I mean, I don't I don't doubt that people voted for Trump. I mean, he, you know, I think the Democrats ran a shitty campaign. I'll be frank. I think Kamala did the best with what she had, but I think she made a lot of missteps. I think the Democrats not having a primary was a huge miss. That was a win. I think Biden should have never he said he was gonna be a one-term president and he wasn't. I think there's a ton of shit the Democrats could have done better. Yeah, but regardless, even if we had straight up democracy, Trump won the popular vote. Yeah, so it wouldn't have made a difference at this point.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:24

I just so it is what it is. The thing I didn't like was like was people like uh critiquing Biden's mental status before uh like during his run got kind of shit for it. Where and then like as soon as as soon as it was clear that he was out and he was like, Oh, yeah, of course. They were like, Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:44

Let me put this book out talking about how like how I I I tried to raise concerns, but I was silenced because but I never said anything publicly. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, this is bullshit.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:55

Like, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:56

The fact that like people like But also I I think that Biden gets way more flagged for it than Trump does because Trump is is he talks straight, like Gary Busey levels of like crazy outlandish shit. Like he was on the thing talking the other night about the the Epstein files, and he was like, I don't know why they're talking about Epstein. Uh no, no, no. They were talking about uh ICE and he's on and they were and they were like so they were like, you know, but like two American citizens were killed, and he was like, We have the best ships. And they were they were like, What? And he's like, We've been very tough on the waters, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's like, What are you we're talking about ICE killing American citizens? And he just like off the realm. If that was Biden, it would have been like I said, it was the same thing with uh Joe Rogan, where he he goes off about some Biden quote that he's like, Biden has lost his fucking problem, and then Jamie's like, Oh, you know what? I just looked it up. Snope said this is actually Trump that said this. And he's like, he's like, Well, Trump says crazy shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:49

Yeah, yeah, that's I was like, I was like, That's what I was about to say. That's what it is, though. That's what it is. There's so much tribalism. I'm not even gonna say that. I'll I'll say this there is once you have that absurd of a man, even when he's in his right mind, that absurd of a man, you're just like, okay, now no matter what you say, I don't like you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:10

Like it's he's he's the he's the corner crackhead. Yeah, yeah. You're like, yo, like you could be talking about something serious and he says something crazy and you're like, oh, that's just his. Yeah, that's just that's like his thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:18

Yeah, like I don't know. Yeah, and it's unfortunate. That's just Trump, dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:22

It's unfortunate that we're that we're here, but I uh yeah, I I I saw I saw uh a clip because you know I just haven't been able to watch Rogan ever since he's got on the political shit, but uh of him and him and Gillis, and it was incredible. Dude. Where they they were talking about uh when he he was he was talking about uh he was talking about uh Joe Rogan's like, yeah. He's like, nah man, I kind of like uh a little bit of like you know, underarm hair, don't be like. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And Joe Rogan's like, what? He's like he's like, so you like jack ladies with underarm hair? And he's like, Yeah, man, I don't mind it. And and Gillis is like, you're getting close, dude.

unknown 1:41:57

I'm telling you.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:58

Rogan is dying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Gillis is like, you know, like I like a nice buzz cut. Yeah. And I'm like, dude, I miss when this podcast was this.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:08

Like, yeah, when why can't it be an hour of this instead of him telling me about when he has comedians on, it's so it is good, yeah. You know, and like I said, it reminds me of why everyone fell in love with Joe Rogan because he used to just be curious about shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm like, now he speaks like he knows already. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm like, that's the big thing, man. Is like I just miss when people like and and it's not just Joe. Yeah, it's everyone on the internet now. Everyone knows things, everyone's an authority, everyone's studied, everyone's researched. Yeah, and I'm like, dude, you fucking read three Google links that agree with what you said, yeah, and that's your research.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:43

I think I told you about like their like protect our parks series that they do on Rogan. So it's right Gillis, Mark Norman, and Ari Shavir. What a lineup. The the first uh like I think they've done like And when did they start it? Maybe like four or five years ago. Okay. Um they've probably done like 15 or so of them now. But uh when they first started out, it it was that it was just fucking good time. Off the river. Yeah, let's just fucking four bros having a good time. And the last one that I watched, I was like, Oh yeah, I don't I don't think I can watch these anymore because they'll be fucking yucking it up, having fun, and then it delves into pop. And then all of a sudden Rogan just starts like Jamie, pull up. Yeah, I'm like, what do you think about it? And then like you can even see like have you seen these Somalians in Minnesota and it's like, dude, come on. Like, dude, why don't we just like shotgun another beer? Like exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:36

Like, that's why I like and and I'll I'll agree that I think I was uh I was a little bit too quick footed on the Tom Dylan shit. The Tim Dylan shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:43

Tim Dylan shit.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:44

That that uh you know, like when they tried to ask him political shit, and he was like, why are you asking? Like, yeah, why do you want to talk to me about this? Like, you know, I'm I'm you know, and I I agree now. I'm like, you know what? There's a there's a there's a reaction from a lot of people who are very quick to uh think that a denial to immediately engage in political speech is like cowardice. And it's like I don't think that's true no more, man. And it kind of pisses me off because I'm like, that's the thing with with leftists too that makes me mad is that they they have this ideological belief that silence is complicity.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:16

Yeah, and I'm like, is it though? Cause like, no, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:20

Maybe I just don't want to be bummed for the next fucking 20 minutes.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:23

You mean like I'm not gonna say that what Americans or what people, you know, Latinos or what like what's happening under ice isn't real oppression. Yeah, it is, but like there's also this, and I'm not gonna say it's completely unwarranted, I'm gonna say in aspects, it is a reasonable like comparison to the Holocaust of like grabbing people, roping bubble cans. There's people living in fucking deplorable conditions, getting raped, getting killed. It's fucking awful.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:49

It's fucking crazy, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:51

But like, if you ask anyone who lived during that time of World War II, did they stay silent for fear of their own safety or fear of their own well-being? Yeah, and you're gonna be like, you're a coward, you're complicit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that you're someone who hasn't really, really felt the heat or the face of like true fucking danger or like risk of your well-being or the well-being of people you care about. Because like everyone's so rah-rah on the internet, yeah. And I'm like, I get it. Like, you're not risking anything. Yeah, yeah. Like your speech is whatever. Yeah. I'm like, talk that shit in real life. Yeah, like do that shit for real. Like, really famous. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like, like I said, like I, you know, I'm I'm not gonna say that like I uh politically it changes my alignment, but it changes the way like and I and I've been someone who's been quick to rush a judgment, but like, like I said, I think that the whole if you don't if you don't completely disavow it immediately in every moment, every fucking public possible fucking then you're you're a fascist. And I'm like, there was uh nah dude. I don't I don't agree with that.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:54

For the most part, pretty uh anti-religion. So like I'm usually not trying to take it.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:00

I'm with you there too, is like that. I mean, you know, my knee-jerk react is like fuck them. Well fuck them, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 1:46:05

But uh but like it's also like, yeah, what what are you what are you gonna tell people about how to raise their kids and shit like that?

SPEAKER_01 1:46:11

So anyways, I think it's one of those things where like if you're gonna be a parent like that, then don't be surprised when you die apart from your kids and you don't see them once they turn 18. Yeah, because what what I've what I've seen what I've seen religion to drive some people to do when it comes to their family and when it comes to their children and when it comes to all of these things, um it's bad. Really bad. Yeah. To be like it. I think it's a I I I think if you ask me, and it's probably maybe my my hottest take on the whole thing, I think it's a net negative. Yeah, definitely. I I don't I don't think you've I've ever seen anyone who grew up in a strictly religious environment and became that much more wholesome or that much much of a better person because their parents were very strict on them due to religious upbringing. But I have seen countless families where children come out irrevocably harmed at the way they become adults. Those that don't make it out end up killing themselves or dying to outside influence because of choices that they feel like they were forced to take. Um I think it's a net negative, 100%. But you know, that's just my that's my that's my that's my doomer brain.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:15

It just reminded me of that uh that fucking video of the dude in the mega church. Which one? The dude being like, uh, and I'm no longer gay. Like I don't know this. You don't remember, I don't know this. You gotta show me this. You never seen this?

SPEAKER_00 1:47:31

No.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:32

A woman. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you could just be bisexual, dog. Like none of those things are mutually inclusive. That's fucking hysterical. Uh I I thought you were gonna be like that. Why are you gay? Oh shit. What you were gonna hit me with. Um, but damn man, um, we're in February. Happy Valentine's Day to everybody. We're recording this on the 13th. Unlucky Friday.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:55

Yeah, I was gonna say, I was like, shit.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:57

Uh there's a fucking horror movie I saw that looks straight up terrifying, dude. What's that? Um undertone. See the trailer? Popped up on YouTube for me and Celeste the other day. And no, don't watch it. I will I will show it to you. Um if you haven't seen it, uh, dude looks fucking horrifying. Um anybody like uh I'm mad this came out in fucking February. It's gonna come out in like the next few weeks, but uh yeah. Uh I was gonna say if you end up deciding to rent Bone Temple, let me know. I would like to do two. Yeah, let's do it. Let's do a group watch again. Um we have a nice retrospective pod coming up on Nice Guys. That is our next pod. So we will be doing that. Um, I'm gonna be out of the country. Me and Celeste will be traveling for a wedding, but uh yeah, next pod is definitely gonna be nice guys. Uh, Upo, you wanna dive into a little bit about like what you want to do with that pod? Because like we don't do a lot of like one-time deep dive movie pods. So, I mean, obviously we'll talk about it, what we like themes, uh fun stuff. Yeah, yeah. Uh obviously the roles, Ryan Gosling, fun stuff. I mean, it sounds like a movie that like you and Dev definitely clearly, I mean, you guys did it as your Halloween costume. You guys have some feelings and some thoughts into it.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:10

Um to be honest, part of my love of that movie is just when did you first see it?

SPEAKER_01 1:49:15

Let's let's start there.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:16

I saw it I didn't see it in theaters, but as soon as it was available as year did it come out?

SPEAKER_01 1:49:21

Do you remember 2015? Okay, I want to say. So not that I thought it's not like formative years. No, no, no. It's like you guys were young adults watching that shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:30

But I just remember like uh it popped up on 2016. The best year ever. It came out on the best year ever. In the best year ever. Yeah. Um no, it just didn't for as good of a movie as it is, it got like no love at the box office.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:46

It yeah, it didn't a hundred percent. Yeah, it's not in the cultural zeitgeist. I remember like watching it and I was like, Why the fuck didn't this everybody big Lebowski level of like it's one of those movies of like quirky characters, like fun. It it just and so the style, what is it? Like a like a like a dramedy?

SPEAKER_02 1:50:05

Is it a uh it's a black comedy for sure. Black comedy, okay. So it's a black comedy set in like a noir story where it's let me ask because I've seen a thousand memes on this.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:17

It's the What can I get you? Not drinking. Drinks on the House Tonight. What do you drink? What do you what there's a song that plays? What song is it? Shit. Because I've seen nine million memes, and every time it's a different song, and every time I look at the comments, someone's like, that song actually plays in this scene. I'm like, you it can't because I've seen 90,000 versions of this fucking meme.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:39

I don't even I don't even remember because every time I watch this movie, it's uh me and Zelaya had back when Zelaya was still a D Gen, we had like the the best drinking movies of all time.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:50

Shout out Zelaya D Gen. Dude, Zelaya, I'm so happy for you and your life right now, but like if you ever listen to this, god damn, what times? Yeah, and there should have been more, yeah, but I got married and I couldn't do those anymore.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:05

Amen.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:06

Uh I I am jealous. There's a couple times that you guys had that I couldn't tag along because I had to like unfortunately crawl back to the house. Um I hear about them and I'm like, damn. I feel like you know what? Uh you ever watch The Office? There's like uh there's like uh a thing about where Michael Scott loves like inside jokes. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so they're doing an inside joke and he's like, love inside jokes, like love to be a part of one. And that's me hearing those stories. I'm like, yeah, man, what a love to just spend$500 on a Sunday bar hopping and fucking like going around.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:40

Fucking amen. Uh you're probably better off in the long term, but 100%. I mean um every time, except for the first time I saw that movie, every time I've seen that movie, it's been like getting home at like fucking 132 in the morning. It's a comfy film. Being drunk and being like, yeah. So it's a good drunk watch. It's a good drunk watch. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:02

Alright.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:03

I like it. But yeah, black comedy, it's noir, so it's two of my favorite genres kind of mixed in together.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:10

Um do you do you prefer your noirs funny or serious? Uh or do you think like it depends. Like, depends on your mood. It you know what? Probably funny now that I think about it. Really? Yeah. So like anybody who can mix in I feel like I feel like you put Chinatown as like one of your top three. But Chinatown's like a serious noir.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:30

Yeah. Ch here's the thing. I I keep on remembering. Uh we would make fun of each other about the things that we always said, and Shem would always point out every time I said, Here's the thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:42

Um it is when it's done well, yeah, it's but it's but a serious noir is hard because it can it crosses that line between campy, yeah, like it gets kind of hammy, like hammy. You don't want to be a hammy, yeah, hammy, yeah. Like you can be serious, you can be campy, but like once you you're trying too hard. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:01

Like so, yeah. If you have like a uh Shane Black or like a Martin McDonough directing your movie, you can work in some fucking comedy gold. Okay. In the super serious fucking people are dying and shit. Genre, yeah. I mean, like it's a murder mystery. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, if if the right person does it, I I I'd go I'd go black comedy mixed with noir every time every time. That's right, okay. It's to be honest, also, Chinatown was such like a fucking formative fucking when did you first watch it? Teenager. I don't really remember.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:40

I mean, I mean, clearly, clearly you had some good taste because you know, Chinatown is considered one of the greatest noirs, if not the greatest noir of all time.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:48

Yeah, to be honest, and I know I'm overselling at this point, it's never gonna live up to the hype, but I like uh nice guys more.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:59

But I feel like on your top three you've never included nice guys, you've always included Chinatown.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:04

My top three is a top 100.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:06

Are you talking top enjoyment, or are you talking like, oh, you're just saying they're like it depends on how you feel?

SPEAKER_02 1:54:11

It depends on how I feel at the moment, yeah. If I if I have some some fucking hope for the world, then then uh nice guys comes in above it.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:20

Without without jumping into an hour, let's say top five right now, you sober. What are your top five right now in the moment? No drinks in your system. Top five. Cold winter, sober as a four sunset.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:35

Second one.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:36

Hot take.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:37

Nice guys in there for sure. Okay. Uh, and this is in no particular order.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:42

2077? What's that?

SPEAKER_02 1:54:44

2077? 2049?

SPEAKER_01 1:54:46

2049.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:47

No, it has the coolest fucking scene of all time. It's because it's the coolest fucking visual in a movie of all time.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:57

Um there's gotta be an Inaritu film in there somewhere because he's your favorite director.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:02

Uh, not Inaritu. Uh fucking Villanueve. Villanueve. Prisoners. It might be prisoners. What's there's another grounded movie that he did that I fucking I'm it's eluding me right now. Let's put Prisoners in there.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:17

Annihilation. Oh no.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:18

Uh Arrival? Yeah, arrival over prisoners.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:21

So I'll I'll put I'll give you arrivals the other one. Villanueva, you've always said that arrival is like your favorite.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:27

Nice guys before sunset, arrival. I fucking love me some green room. Love that fucking movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:34

I it's one of the films that I had so high expectations because of how many people recommended it, including Letty. And I watched it and it blew me away. I was like, what a brutal fucking horror.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:47

And uh Scream.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:49

Alright, so wait, run that list again. Five films.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:52

Arrival. Right. Nice guys before sunset. Scream. Scream.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:57

And green room.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:58

And green room.

SPEAKER_00 1:55:59

Damn.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:01

I'm pretty sure. No departed.

SPEAKER_00 1:56:04

Fuck! God damn it. Know the town? See, this is why I can't do a topic.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:12

Let's do ten. Let's do ten. Town departed. Town. Town departed are the best Boston are the best Boston films. Movies and Boston films are. I mean, we could do Goodwill, but let's not. Let's not do Goodwill. I'm not doing it. Because Goodwill is too incredible.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:26

Yeah. It's uh let's see. Okay. Uh that opens this up so much better that I have three more now.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:32

Uh Shawshank.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:35

It's not in my top ten.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:36

Forrest Gump.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:37

Nope. Green Mile. Nah. See, this is where I get into trouble. I have to fucking start like.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:44

No, no, no. We we know these. We know these up. We know this is up the top. We know this is up the top. Um I name a top ten. Oh, uh, there's gotta be a fucking uh there's gotta be a Tarantino film in there. Gotta be a top ten for you. One Tarantino. Your favorite.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:00

Uh it's a hot take, but in Glorious Bastards.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:02

But it's not a top ten film for you?

SPEAKER_02 1:57:04

No. Okay. I think he's one of the most like uh he's one of the best directors of all time, but oh, over any Tarantino movie, uh I don't I don't think it's gonna be in your top ten, but I could I can think of I could okay, yeah. In Bruges, remember so that leaves two more.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:20

I I could name a film that I think is not your favorite, but I think it was one of the most emotionally affecting films for you. What's up? Skin emarink. Yeah, and no, fuck that movie. You're not gonna put it in your top ten. Obviously not. I've never seen you react to a film the way you react to it. I'm trying to think of another one that maybe trying to think of really good movies that you've seen. Uh damn Gone Baby Gone. But that's another that's another Boston, that's another Boston film.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:47

Another Ben Affleck joint.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:48

Casey Affleck, but he directed it, Ben. Oh, did he? Yeah. He directed that? Sure did. I need to watch it again. I'm not gonna lie. One of my favorite experiences of watching that film was just arguing with you and Gabby for like the last hour. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We like got in like a legit fight. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:58:04

Like Gabby was like, he's better off. And I was like, You fucking crazy. You can't fucking do that. Yeah, you can't just kidnap people and kill their parents. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:13

Shout out Gabby, because she had the right opinion. I was just emotional. Um, yeah, Departed and Um The Town were like my like hot takes. Uh I'm trying to think like top, and uh, you know, I not mine, I'm thinking like films that would appeal to you 100%.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:32

Um I have a letterbox account that I'm so fucking scared.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:35

Go ahead, pull up letterbox, pull up letterbox. You got three more spaces. You did five, you added the departed and you added the town. You got three spots left. Is Chinatown one of those three for top ten? With nice guys in it?

SPEAKER_02 1:58:50

No, no, oh uh fucking Wind River. Oh, Wind River, yeah. Wind River is great.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:55

Of course, you gotta have one fucking Taylor Jordan film for you. And and if you're gonna do any of them, Wind River is the best. Yeah. I watched Hello High What with you, and I I thought it was gonna be really like I when the fact that Hello High River was the first movie I saw, I was like, I'm very and I randomly threw it on one night. So Celeste was like, what are we watching? And I was like, This is one of and she was like, This is Ubo's but she was like all right, yo. By the end of that movie, she was like out of breath. She was like, Holy shit, this is incredible. Um, yeah, Wind River, I think is what was his third? What was the third in that run? It was I think Wind River was. No, but what was what was the other one? Sicario, Eller High Water and Wind River.

SPEAKER_00 1:59:34

Damn, Sicario's so fucking good.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:37

Yeah, it's it's it's between Sicario and Wind River.

unknown 1:59:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:59:41

One of those um Mystic River.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:44

I haven't seen it. It was a I I I know of it. Joaquin Phoenix, right? No, this is um Mystic River. Oh, Sean Penn. Sean Penn. Sean he won, I think, for that. I think he won for Mystic River. I haven't seen it.

SPEAKER_02 1:59:55

The same writer wrote the book Mystic River as wrote Gone Baby Gone. Let's see.

SPEAKER_01 2:00:00

That's nine, right?

SPEAKER_02 2:00:01

That's nine.

SPEAKER_01 2:00:03

Tenth spot, last one. Mystic River, interesting. I've never heard you talk about this film ever. I I I know that it's an incredible film.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:13

The book, and I gotta re-watch Mystic River because I watched it as like uh I don't know, I was like fucking 12 or something like that. But the book I read as an adult, and it was the closest a piece of fiction has gotten me to cry. Nice. Like it I was That's dope, dude. Yeah, hell yeah. You know what? I gotta I gotta do it, and it's not it's not fucking worthy. It's not keynote, it's so funny. The way way back. It's uh Wait, that's the name of it? Yeah, the way way back. The way way back. It's a coming of age film. I don't even know the main character's the actor's name, but Sam Rockwell is in it, and uh Steve Carell is in it, and the supporting cast.

SPEAKER_01 2:00:52

Uh is this the one where he builds the little like Steve Corell builds like little houses? No, no, no, no. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:59

I'm I'm uh the mom from Hereditary. I've I'm hating myself for getting it forgetting her name. Tony Collette. Tony Collette isn't there, such a baby. I think she's so fucking hot, and which is weird. It's just a coming of age story about this awkward kid that's on vacation with his mom and her boyfriend. And watched it the other day, or not the other day, like a few weeks ago I rewatched it. So fucking good. A good uh I coming of age stories really get me. Uh I fuck with them.

SPEAKER_01 2:01:30

Fair, fair. I mean, I think that you've always talked about how coming of age stories resonate with you so well. You talked about how uh Ladybird like was such like a just like a heart favorite for you at the time. You were like, it's just great at what it does. Yeah, it it takes everybody's been everyone. It takes one of the most relatable experiences at all of being like a young, impressionable person and trying to find your place in the world. Yeah, like who can't relate to that?

SPEAKER_02 2:01:55

So good. Um for ten. Uh I'm glad we did this because we were getting real heavy there, and I was like, we can't edit on this shit like that.

SPEAKER_01 2:02:04

Um I'll jump in. Uh Shawshank. Okay. Uh Whiplash.

SPEAKER_02 2:02:08

Fantastic. Moonlight. Ooh, forgot about Moonlight.

SPEAKER_01 2:02:12

The Departed. That's four. Um so I'm at Shawshank. Whiplash. Oh, I fucked up too. Moonlight. Uh go ahead before I jump in.

SPEAKER_02 2:02:22

Inception's gotta be in my list. Really? I fucking love that movie so much.

SPEAKER_01 2:02:27

Really? Uh I I think Inception is a flawless film, especially for how grand in scope it is. It always escapes my mind on a Yeah, damn. I mean, I I don't I don't have any objections to you picking it. I just think for you, like sci-fi is such a I I'm not a big sci-fi guy. So what would you take out? You gotta take one out.

SPEAKER_02 2:02:51

I'll take out uh the departed because I have because I have the town. Take out the town, brother. No, over. I'm sorry. You know what was I still I still remember that's insane. I still remember how I feel when you see Ben Affleck's character in the town walking into the prison with that piano theme going. It's a real slow fucking uh it's like the the the song of the fucking the score of the movie.

SPEAKER_01 2:03:24

I'm sorry, the the infinitely better moment for me. I mean like nah, you're you're fine, that's the way you feel. Um the the the the scene in the movie that totally threw it over for me is where Jeremy Renner's walking down the alley and you hear Michael like John Hamm behind him, he's like, come on, and you're like, you know it. You're like the chick is up, yeah, you're done.

SPEAKER_00 2:03:43

And the the the the look on his the absolute apprehension and like the you're like I'm done. Yeah, like if you've ever done anything wrong and been caught, you know that like twitch moment where you're like, I'm fucked.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:01

Or is it like it's like I'm fucked, and what am I gonna do?

SPEAKER_00 2:04:05

Am I going to just my licks or imagine if you're you were ever in that moment and you had a gun.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:12

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:04:13

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm shooting my way out. Yeah, like I'm I'm sorry, and like you've been exactly where Renner's character is in that moment.

SPEAKER_01 2:04:20

Like, it's it's such a palpable, like it's like imagine every time like you wished you had the power to change a situation. Yeah. And even though your situation is hopeless, you're like, I guess I'm taking you with me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like, it's so fucking good, dude.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:37

Also, the coolest the coolest dialogue of all time. Whose car are we taking? You love that screen. Like, dude, I fucking love that scene.

SPEAKER_01 2:04:45

That's you and Danny. That's that's you and Danny's That's you, Danny, and Joliya. Any night. Any night in your fucking early 20s. You guys would fucking beat people up and fucking.

SPEAKER_03 2:04:57

You guys are out of control.

SPEAKER_01 2:04:59

But yeah, sorry, I interrupted your listening. No, no, no. I think uh I think you throwing in that in is an interesting choice. Fuck, it makes me step back and take it. Okay. So I'm gonna do uh yeah, Whiplash, Shawshank, or Tide for one and two, uh, Departed Three, Moonlight Four, not in order.

SPEAKER_02 2:05:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:05:19

Top four, easy. I I feel like for me. Film outside of that, uh man, we're gonna get brutal. This is hard, man. Yeah, no, I'm with you because I'm thinking about films that affected me the most emotionally and films that are like from an objective standpoint. Yeah, like yeah, that's the issue. Uh, one of the films I feel like affected me most emotionally because when I got it, it taught me the most about my life and my relationship with women was uh 500 Days of Summer.

SPEAKER_02 2:05:48

Yeah, dude. I don't know if it's the best film.

SPEAKER_01 2:05:50

Such a good movie, yeah. In the beginning of the film where I think Summer's the villain the entire time. Yep. And then not understanding that Joseph Gordon Levitt is the villain the entire time. The moment I understood that, yeah, changed my life. Yeah. Um, but no, 500 Days of Summer is not a it's a top-tier romance for me. Um uh oh, but but in that same vein, I will say five for me is uh Eternal Sunshine. Oh, fantastic. Eternal Sunshine is one of the greatest, I think one of the most cerebral films ever made, and I need to watch it 50 more times before I ever understand it. But um I just remember how it made me feel. Yeah, I I never felt so intellectually dominated by a film. Intellectually and emotionally. I I I felt like I I I I left it so confused and I never felt so frustrated about how confused it left me. Yeah. That it it it made me feel like um it's like I got if you it's like I got in a bit in a debate with a smart kid and I lost.

SPEAKER_00 2:06:52

And then I stepped out of the debate and I was like, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, no, no, no. I need to no. Tell me why I'm wrong. It's like it's like I want to know.

SPEAKER_02 2:07:00

Adding heart to tenant is what it is.

SPEAKER_01 2:07:03

Still haven't seen tenant.

SPEAKER_02 2:07:05

Um it's a good movie, but it is fucking. I've heard it already.

SPEAKER_01 2:07:08

I mean, Robert Pattinson said he still doesn't understand what it's about. So um with that in mind, uh Memento, Nolan. Good, no, no, no, no, no, not Memento, no, uh The Prestige magic. I was about to say prestige, yeah. The prestige. So that's six uh top ten films, and I've got to have seen them. I'm trying so hard not to dig from shit that I haven't seen because I'm being like a fucking contrarian and thinking like I have like fucking keynote film tastes. Films that have affected me the most. Like I can think of some shows recently, but that's not that's not what we're asking. Um yeah, there's there's yeah, you can cut this out, but yeah, I'll be I'm I'm digging in the cerebral right now.

SPEAKER_02 2:07:50

Like the uh the ones that like I want to include, but just don't quite make the top ten.

SPEAKER_01 2:07:55

Go ahead, throw them in honorable mentions.

SPEAKER_02 2:07:56

Uh always. Eastern Promises. Fucking love that movie. Romeo and Juliet Baslerums.

SPEAKER_01 2:08:03

Is that the Rome the uh Leonardo? Sierra DiCaprio and Claire Danes, yeah. My brother came back from that film as a teenager, changed. Yeah, like he was like a different dude when he came back from that.

SPEAKER_02 2:08:16

I never saw it because like yeah, such a good fucking movie, yeah. And then there's like the classics, like Saving Private Ryan, right?

SPEAKER_01 2:08:23

Like I remember being a kid watching Save or Private Ryan, and uh my my parents played it, like just we watched it in the living room, and uh I saw like the D-Day scene. Jesus I ran to my bedroom, yeah. It's fucking outside. I literally like couldn't watch it, and uh I didn't watch Saving Private Ryan do its entirety for like another week after they ran the I it was brutal for me. I couldn't do it, but uh what great, great. I think there was an argument about that, not to derail. I know I'm at six right now, I got like fucking four of the films. Um, but there was an argument about this about what is the best World War II movie, and so a lot of people were really, really critical of Saving Pride because they were like Saving Private Ryan's really good up until the D-Day scene and it ends, and then they were like, after that, it becomes like a super generic World War II, like, oh, we gotta save the village.

SPEAKER_02 2:09:11

I mean, I disagree, but you know, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:09:14

I agree. I thought that you know, especially the scenes were like uh what's his name? Uh Sizemore's what's God such a great actor, rest in peace. Yeah, Tom Sizemore when like he fucking throws his helmet to shoot the other. I'm like, what a brutal depict so fucking also uh who's the coward who watches homeboy get stabbed? Yeah, you're like it's so brutal, but like everyone was like, Yeah, the village was like it was so like generic. And I was like, I don't agree, man. But they were like everyone agreed that the one of the the consensus of the thread was that Fury is a better World War II film when it comes to like the complexity of people over Savior.

SPEAKER_02 2:09:52

I liked Fury. I just I I can never say that it's a better movie than Sabian Pride Ryan.

SPEAKER_01 2:09:58

Because Sabian Pride Ryan's Spielberg, right? Yep. Uh is there a better World War II movie over both of them? On the worst bastards?

SPEAKER_02 2:10:07

Yeah, but that's like so like uh it's so outside of it's not a historical epic. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:10:13

Like it's so outside of the what actually happened that like But again, I mean, like if you watch a Bridge of Spies, that's a World War II movie, but it's not battles, it's it's espionage, it's you know, so I don't know. Good movie, but still think you still think you you do think that the defining epic of World War II is Saving Priver Right Saving Priver Ryan for sure. Yeah, all right, yeah. It's just interesting, like the zeitgeist about that that people felt that it was like super okay, let's get past it.

SPEAKER_02 2:10:40

Um also I just it's not in my anywhere near my top ten, I just saw it on my list. Uh I fucking forgot how good collateral was.

SPEAKER_00 2:10:49

God just just uh Tom Cruise is a villain, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:10:53

So goddamn so charismatic that he can play both sides of the gun. Yeah. Um all right, let's get through this. Fucking six films. I mean four films. Come on. Um there's like a million movies I could think of right now that I'm not thinking of, but um trying to think of other directors anywhere I haven't ventured out to. Um I'm thinking of I I immediately go to the Inaritu. And I thought about Birdman, but I'm like, nah, Birdman was not. Um I'm trying to think of like films that like in the grand scheme of things, like fucking changed my perception of film. And ultimately, it it forces me to take a step back from like the kind of film that I've used to watching and just makes me think of shit that I watched as a kid that changed my mind. Like, I'm thinking of like George Romero, Dawn of the Dead, 1978. Yeah, I I think I think George Romero 1978, Dawn of the Dead might be the film that changed. I mean, it gave me a lifelong fear of zombies. Changed the way I think of horror as social commentary versus just like just being scary monster. You're right. What's the fear? So I'll I'll I'll do George. Romero's Dawn of the Dead for how impactful and how influential was me, even for me being born decades after it came out. Um, that's seven. Let's do eight, nine, ten, let's do three more. Oh, easy. Um, and this goes like four or five spots up in the chain. Uh, no country. Oh, no country, no country's top five. Such a good fucking movie. Yeah, no country's top five. Uh, the moment someone first told me, they were like, Yeah, you know there's no music in that movie, right? And I was like, Holy shit. What are you talking about? And I went, I was like, yo, didn't even tension so high in this movie. I didn't even realize there's no soundtrack. Yeah, the soundtrack was just a zero-second audio file. Um nine and ten. Fuck it. Let's get out of this.

SPEAKER_02 2:12:39

Uh I'm mad I didn't pick any like shows. Oh, Eternal Sunshine, too. You hit that one already.

SPEAKER_01 2:12:45

Was that in that top six? Okay. Okay, okay. I just wanted to make sure I didn't overclude it. Uh nine and ten. Fuck it. Let's uh how the fuck do we get out? It's with the most influential and my favorite films of all time. I I can't believe there's no Tarantino film in there.

SPEAKER_02 2:13:01

Those are two different lists, though. What do you mean? Favorite and influential. Oh, right, right, right. Yeah, yeah. I'm I'm trying to synthesize the two.

SPEAKER_01 2:13:08

Um, like I said, I think uh 500 Days of Summer would be in like my favorite because like when I got it, yeah, yeah, it changed my life. Um, but yeah, I I don't have a single Tarantino film in there, and that's kind of surprising. I'm I'm saying, man, like it he's I feel like Pulp Fiction was super influential for me as a movie watcher because it was the first film that I had to tie up multiple narratives into one. Yeah, it was so I I think that growing up in the 90s, I feel like I have to give Pulp Fiction a pass because like it's either that or it's Kill Bill. And I don't think in my right mind, I I think if I'm arguing favorite, it's Kill Bill because I watched it in high school when it came out. If I have to argue about which is a better film, it's pulp fiction, it clears it clears. So yeah. So I I'll I'll do Pulp Fiction because it taught me how to teach interweaving narratives into a single structure plot-wise. Uh and then 10. Oh, it's easy. Prisoners.

SPEAKER_02 2:14:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:14:09

Prisoners 10.

SPEAKER_02 2:14:10

Good list.

SPEAKER_01 2:14:10

Prisoners 10. Um, I'll I was gonna be a contrarian and say enemy because it was the first film that ever made me feel like a smooth brain.

SPEAKER_02 2:14:16

Oh you ever watch Enemy? I don't think I have, but I I've I watched the bad part is I watch those Cinefix movilists. You'll hate yourself. And uh I've seen the the the ending of it already, essentially.

SPEAKER_01 2:14:31

Um I think Prisoners is one of the most brutal films about how it makes you check your prejudices. It makes you it makes you question how you perceive victim versus perpetrator. And uh that that's the one thing. Like, I think everyone talks about prisoners, how great it is, about how it subverts your expectations and and like makes you it's just a great mystery in the end of it. But like I I think that ultimately a lot of the themes too are about how we're prisoners to our prejudices, yeah, about our predispositions, about how we judge people, about how they trap us and they prevent us from seeing the bigger picture. And uh uh fucking Malchavian, he's such a fucking good actor at being like this weird off-camp dude that you're like, what's his deal? Yeah, yeah. So much to the point that like you suspect him of doing something that he's a victim of. And it's like, god damn. Like, Prisoners is a great film. It is so good.

SPEAKER_02 2:15:29

Yeah, but anyway, that's been long enough.

SPEAKER_00 2:15:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:15:32

Uh yeah. Holy shit, two and a half.

SPEAKER_00 2:15:36

You get it down to two.

SPEAKER_02 2:15:37

I'll get it down to two, and I'll uh probably take my time at it in this. So it might not even come out Monday, it might come out next week or whatever. But actually, tomorrow is pretty wide open. Anyways. Yeah, it'll it'll it'll happen.

SPEAKER_01 2:15:50

Yeah. But anyway, thank everyone for joining us. Appreciate it. Thank everyone for listening to our bullshit opinions. Our life um check in on your peoples, make sure everyone you know around you is all right. Yeah, the only thing you can reasonably held account to is to take care of the people in your life. Don't don't feel obligated, don't feel expected to do anything other than that.

SPEAKER_02 2:16:09

And uh get off the internet and touch somebody.

SPEAKER_01 2:16:11

Get the fuck off the internet, touch grass, text somebody, call somebody. Yeah, call somebody. Don't don't DM. Yeah, yeah. Fuck out of here. Peace. Love y'all.