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So we do need"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1033.06,"endTime":1036.54,"body":"to do our part with that as"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1036.54,"endTime":1036.9,"body":"well."},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":1037.35,"endTime":1040.47,"body":"Pawntra earlier,"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":1037.35,"endTime":1040.47,"body":"you were mentioning the pronouns"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":1040.5,"endTime":1045.21,"body":"and my wife who's a high school"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":1040.5,"endTime":1045.21,"body":"teacher who started out the year"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":1045.21,"endTime":1048.78,"body":"teaching virtually was pointing"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":1045.21,"endTime":1048.78,"body":"out to me that many of her"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":1048.78,"endTime":1051.03,"body":"students in it, it kind of"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":1048.78,"endTime":1051.03,"body":"caught on and became more and"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":1051.03,"endTime":1054.15,"body":"more popular, but, at her school"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":1051.03,"endTime":1054.15,"body":"were putting their pronouns next"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":1054.15,"endTime":1058.2,"body":"to their name. 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But in that,"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":1094.68,"endTime":1098.04,"body":"the greater thought, and I'm"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":1094.68,"endTime":1098.04,"body":"rambling, that I was wanting to"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":1098.04,"endTime":1101.73,"body":"get to is the different types of"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":1098.04,"endTime":1101.73,"body":"diversity that we should be"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":1101.73,"endTime":1104.76,"body":"looking at. 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He's"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1126.68,"endTime":1131.81,"body":"someone who cannot deal with"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1131.81,"endTime":1135.02,"body":"large groups. He can sit in a"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1131.81,"endTime":1135.02,"body":"meeting, if it's a silent"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1135.02,"endTime":1138.14,"body":"meeting, and we're all sitting"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1135.02,"endTime":1138.14,"body":"there and we're talking, that's"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1138.14,"endTime":1141.2,"body":"fine. But when we get to the"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1138.14,"endTime":1141.2,"body":"happy hours, when we get to the"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1141.2,"endTime":1144.08,"body":"dinners, when we get to those"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1141.2,"endTime":1144.08,"body":"social functions, he can't"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1144.08,"endTime":1148.64,"body":"process that. It's a disability,"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1144.08,"endTime":1148.64,"body":"it's his PTSD that we have to"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1148.64,"endTime":1151.49,"body":"accommodate. Now, that's"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1148.64,"endTime":1151.49,"body":"something that working with the"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1151.49,"endTime":1154.7,"body":"military and working with vets,"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1151.49,"endTime":1154.7,"body":"I'm very conscious of that as"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1154.7,"endTime":1156.11,"body":"well. When I do events."},{"speaker":"Pawntra Shadab","startTime":1156.17,"endTime":1158.42,"body":"I think the best"},{"speaker":"Pawntra Shadab","startTime":1156.17,"endTime":1158.42,"body":"and easiest way to describe it"},{"speaker":"Pawntra Shadab","startTime":1158.42,"endTime":1162.2,"body":"as diversity is how you identify"},{"speaker":"Pawntra Shadab","startTime":1158.42,"endTime":1162.2,"body":"yourself. 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But the inclusion is"},{"speaker":"Pawntra Shadab","startTime":1165.65,"endTime":1170.09,"body":"where you are able to accept and"},{"speaker":"Pawntra Shadab","startTime":1170.09,"endTime":1173.21,"body":"respect all of those identities"},{"speaker":"Pawntra Shadab","startTime":1170.09,"endTime":1173.21,"body":"and all of those different"},{"speaker":"Pawntra Shadab","startTime":1173.21,"endTime":1174.47,"body":"diverse people."},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1174.5,"endTime":1176.0,"body":"Diversity"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1174.5,"endTime":1176.0,"body":"is never ending."},{"speaker":"Pawntra Shadab","startTime":1176.0,"endTime":1176.36,"body":"Right."},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1176.0,"endTime":1177.74,"body":"I"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1176.0,"endTime":1177.74,"body":"don't want people to listen to"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1177.74,"endTime":1180.38,"body":"this and say, Well, how am I"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1177.74,"endTime":1180.38,"body":"going to cater to every single"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1180.38,"endTime":1183.38,"body":"thing that comes my way? 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Maybe it"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1197.48,"endTime":1200.6,"body":"just wasn't received respected"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1200.66,"endTime":1203.57,"body":"in the planning of the event,"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1200.66,"endTime":1203.57,"body":"but now that they vocalized it,"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1203.63,"endTime":1206.87,"body":"it is my job to make sure that"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1203.63,"endTime":1206.87,"body":"they know that they will be"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1206.87,"endTime":1209.78,"body":"catered to as part of the group."},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1206.87,"endTime":1209.78,"body":"And it could be something as"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1209.78,"endTime":1213.65,"body":"simple as kosher meals. 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But if you make people"},{"speaker":"Pawntra Shadab","startTime":1332.07,"endTime":1334.83,"body":"feel comfortable enough to"},{"speaker":"Pawntra Shadab","startTime":1334.83,"endTime":1338.7,"body":"express that from the beginning,"},{"speaker":"Pawntra Shadab","startTime":1334.83,"endTime":1338.7,"body":"then it's easy for us to be able"},{"speaker":"Pawntra Shadab","startTime":1338.7,"endTime":1340.26,"body":"to execute those requests."},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1340.32,"endTime":1343.41,"body":"Right."},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1340.32,"endTime":1343.41,"body":"And I can hear the corporate or"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1343.41,"endTime":1346.59,"body":"the financial side of it, We"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1343.41,"endTime":1346.59,"body":"can't afford to do that. 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I found this one group"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1491.68,"endTime":1494.53,"body":"that does grits and I'm like, Oh"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1491.68,"endTime":1494.53,"body":"my gosh, I have to get their"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1494.53,"endTime":1498.97,"body":"grits or tea or whatever it is."},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1494.53,"endTime":1498.97,"body":"And I tried to support black"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1498.97,"endTime":1502.33,"body":"businesses every week. Or just"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1498.97,"endTime":1502.33,"body":"POC businesses every week."},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1502.36,"endTime":1505.39,"body":"That's my thing. 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I"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1557.11,"endTime":1560.23,"body":"always say I didn't get to where"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1560.23,"endTime":1563.89,"body":"I was, without the help of"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1560.23,"endTime":1563.89,"body":"someone bring me here. And not"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1563.89,"endTime":1568.09,"body":"to say that minority"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":1563.89,"endTime":1568.09,"body":"organizations need the help. 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My office is across"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2326.86,"endTime":2329.71,"body":"the hall from his and he calls"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2326.86,"endTime":2329.71,"body":"me and I kind of just like, lean"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2329.71,"endTime":2332.2,"body":"over and look out the door and"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2329.71,"endTime":2332.2,"body":"he looks at me and I look at him"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2332.2,"endTime":2335.02,"body":"and I'm like, Why are you"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2332.2,"endTime":2335.02,"body":"calling me and he goes, I was"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2335.02,"endTime":2337.3,"body":"expecting this little blonde"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2335.02,"endTime":2337.3,"body":"white girl to come in. I didn't"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2337.3,"endTime":2339.28,"body":"know you were Staceyann Van"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2337.3,"endTime":2339.28,"body":"Horne. And I'm just kind of"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2339.28,"endTime":2345.01,"body":"like, Wow, I've been here and"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2339.28,"endTime":2345.01,"body":"you had no idea what my name is"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2345.01,"endTime":2349.54,"body":"like. And now married name"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2345.01,"endTime":2349.54,"body":"Doria, forget it. Like it's when"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2349.54,"endTime":2352.63,"body":"I walk into places when I tell"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2349.54,"endTime":2352.63,"body":"you people's faces. There's"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2352.63,"endTime":2354.94,"body":"times when they're like"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2352.63,"endTime":2354.94,"body":"Staceyann? I'm like hey, I'm"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2354.94,"endTime":2358.51,"body":"Stacey. And they look at me and"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2354.94,"endTime":2358.51,"body":"they correct me, Staceyann I'm"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2358.51,"endTime":2361.93,"body":"like, still the same one"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2358.51,"endTime":2361.93,"body":"standing here waiting for you to"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2361.93,"endTime":2362.65,"body":"talk to me."},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2364.9,"endTime":2369.94,"body":"Staceyann."},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2364.9,"endTime":2369.94,"body":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria. CMP."},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2373.36,"endTime":2374.02,"body":"Why"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2373.36,"endTime":2374.02,"body":"Patrick?"},{"speaker":"Pawntra Shadab","startTime":2375.49,"endTime":2377.23,"body":"That's spicier"},{"speaker":"Pawntra Shadab","startTime":2375.49,"endTime":2377.23,"body":"than paprika. That's a good"},{"speaker":"Pawntra Shadab","startTime":2377.23,"endTime":2377.74,"body":"story."},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2377.77,"endTime":2379.27,"body":"See,"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2377.77,"endTime":2379.27,"body":"that's what happens when you go"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2379.27,"endTime":2379.63,"body":"second."},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2380.17,"endTime":2383.89,"body":"So right before"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2380.17,"endTime":2383.89,"body":"we totally wrap up for the day,"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2383.92,"endTime":2388.54,"body":"one extra little thing. Please"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2383.92,"endTime":2388.54,"body":"everybody continue to email in"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2388.6,"endTime":2392.83,"body":"at"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2388.6,"endTime":2392.83,"body":"wellseasonededucation@gmail.com"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2392.86,"endTime":2395.86,"body":"once again, it's"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2392.86,"endTime":2395.86,"body":"wellseasonededucation@gmail.com."},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2396.61,"endTime":2400.96,"body":"We will put that in the notes"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2396.61,"endTime":2400.96,"body":"from today's podcast. We have"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2400.96,"endTime":2403.84,"body":"been getting feedback from you"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2400.96,"endTime":2403.84,"body":"guys. Nobody actually is asking"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2403.84,"endTime":2406.42,"body":"a question or giving us"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2403.84,"endTime":2406.42,"body":"something to talk about. You"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2406.42,"endTime":2409.57,"body":"guys are just saying that you"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2406.42,"endTime":2409.57,"body":"love the show. Fallon Hector"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2409.57,"endTime":2412.9,"body":"actually said, Hey, I love the"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2409.57,"endTime":2412.9,"body":"podcast, but I would like it to"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2412.9,"endTime":2415.72,"body":"be a little bit longer and"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2412.9,"endTime":2415.72,"body":"today's episode, unintentionally"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2415.72,"endTime":2416.23,"body":"was longer."},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2416.26,"endTime":2416.71,"body":"Oh,"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2416.26,"endTime":2416.71,"body":"okay okay!"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2416.71,"endTime":2419.41,"body":"So there you go."},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2416.71,"endTime":2419.41,"body":"Yeah, your wish is our command."},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2420.82,"endTime":2423.25,"body":"Thank you guys so much for"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2420.82,"endTime":2423.25,"body":"communicating with us. Keep it"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2423.25,"endTime":2425.59,"body":"up. You know, we would love to"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2423.25,"endTime":2425.59,"body":"hear questions or feedback or if"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2425.62,"endTime":2427.87,"body":"there's some crazy topic that"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2425.62,"endTime":2427.87,"body":"you want us to talk about, we're"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2427.87,"endTime":2430.27,"body":"happy to talk about it as long"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2427.87,"endTime":2430.27,"body":"as it doesn't get us fired from"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2430.27,"endTime":2433.45,"body":"our day jobs and we're good to"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2430.27,"endTime":2433.45,"body":"go. That's all our time for"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2433.45,"endTime":2437.29,"body":"today. Thank you guys very much"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2433.45,"endTime":2437.29,"body":"for tuning in. As always."},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2437.62,"endTime":2439.81,"body":"Thank"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2437.62,"endTime":2439.81,"body":"you Pawntra for coming on our"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2439.81,"endTime":2441.04,"body":"little podcast."},{"speaker":"Pawntra Shadab","startTime":2441.04,"endTime":2442.24,"body":"Alright. Thank"},{"speaker":"Pawntra Shadab","startTime":2441.04,"endTime":2442.24,"body":"you."},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2442.54,"endTime":2443.71,"body":"Speak"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2442.54,"endTime":2443.71,"body":"to you soon."},{"speaker":"Pawntra Shadab","startTime":2444.1,"endTime":2444.4,"body":"Bye."},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2444.46,"endTime":2445.54,"body":"All"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2444.46,"endTime":2445.54,"body":"right. Bye."},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2445.72,"endTime":2446.8,"body":"And I'm Patrick."},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2448.28,"endTime":2449.66,"body":"And"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2448.28,"endTime":2449.66,"body":"I'm Stacey thinking about my"},{"speaker":"Staceyann Van Horne-Doria","startTime":2449.66,"endTime":2451.13,"body":"name like Patrick always does."},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2452.63,"endTime":2454.13,"body":"Ayayay. And"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2452.63,"endTime":2454.13,"body":"that's another episode of Well"},{"speaker":"Patrick Brochu","startTime":2454.13,"endTime":2457.1,"body":"Seasoned the Podcast. 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