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The Social Dilemma: The Good

October 28, 2020 Platinum-Edge Employee Development
Think to Win!
The Social Dilemma: The Good
Show Notes Transcript

In today's episode, Sam and Burk discuss the positives that come with social media. After watching the Social Dilemma documentary, these positives may be hard to see, but they are present nevertheless. In the next episode we will discuss the dark side of the incredible influence social media has on our society today.

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Hello, and welcome to the think to win Podcast. I am Burk O'Day. Here again with Sam Lucci. How are you Sam? 
I'm fine Burk. How are you today? 
I'm doing well. Doing Really? Well. It's been a an interesting time honestly, ever since you had me watch the the social dilemma documentary, which is what we're going to be talking about in the next few episodes. 
Okay. 
I'm really glad that you had me watch it and Art watched it as well. And I mean, oh my god. 
Pretty eye opening wasnt it? 
Eye opening to say the least.
 shocking to me.
yes. It's shocking. It's terrifying. It's It's everything, you know, that you could imagine. And we're gonna have
 Excuse me, but what I liked about that Burk was that it was a documentary. So it wasn't somebody's opinion. But it was the uh the actual programmers that built those platforms that we're talking about. We're talking about it. And I thought that made it credible, authentic and credible. And through their, you know, seeing it through their eyes. And I just thought was a great documentary. Okay. Yeah, talk about that. 
 The people that were talking, we're obviously very influential. We had the president of Pinterest, the inventor of Google Drive, the, you know, one of the inventors of the Gmail chat, and even the guy that made the Facebook Like button
Right. 
So, I mean, it was a 
Yeah, they weren't just the people that had an opinion about it. They were people that built these platforms. 
Yeah, you know, it wasn't the guy that worked at the cafe at Google for two years, and then said, this is what's going on. It's the guy that made the like button, the like button for Facebook. And it was just so interesting. And we have, we're gonna have to take a couple episodes here, to really go over this and dive into everything that's going on social media and consequentially in the world today. But today, I think we should kind of open up by looking at the good of social media, there's so much bad involved with it as we saw the documentary. And if you haven't watched it, I would highly recommend that you watch the documentary, we're going to talk about it here for I don't know the next couple episodes and just dive into sort of what it means for our world. But today, we're especially going to focus on the good of social media, and as much bad and as many, you know, horrible and horrific things that it's causing the world. There are a fair amount of good things wouldn't wouldn't you say Sam? 
I think there's a tremendous amount of good things with social media. And I think probably we should think of technology as a whole.You know, technology's kind of a sort of cuts both ways. You have the good and you have the the opposite. Obviously, Today, we're gonna talk about the good, but I think technology overall has created a productivity is increased productivity, tremendously in our world. And, and I think that that was that's been a big thing. Because while there's been a lot of drag on productivity, I think the technology is kind of kept us even, in a lot of ways with productivity, which of course, holds prices down, you know, and for consumers and everyone else. So overall, technology is just a wonderful thing. It really is a wonderful, wonderful thing. Well, you know, I can I can remember when I used to have to go to a payphone call somebody, you know, and now, you know, the first one I have is a bag phone. And the first time I got a call, I was on
 a bag phone?? What is that?
Yeah. Well, there was a regular telephone, it was in a bag. You plugged it into your cigarette lighter. And it worked. 
Oh, like a car phone? 
Car phone back on that car. Yes, I'm going down interstate 80. And I get a call and wow, you know, I it was from a mortgage broker mortgage company that was closing the mortgage and some structure I was building for somebody. And wow, you know, I did it. It was wonderful. I didn't have to go to payphone. And you know, so I can remember all the way back there. I have to admit that I I didn't respect technology. At first, I respected what it would do. But I didn't keep up with it. I be I just ignored it. By the time I got involved, I was so far behind. And I'm still so far behind. You know that but when I when I watch my five year old six year old grandson, you know, pick up the phone and make a talk or pick up the the thing with the remote for the TV and boom, just go right to his program, you know, go to Netflix and kids programs get the one he wants. That just amazes me because they've grown up with it. But the good side of technology is that you know the what it's done for people but when you get to social media, that's another that's a whole nother topic. And so today we want to talk about the positive sides of social media. And I think you know, what happened in our country I guess and even in our world as we scattered you know, people used to live in the same house in the same neighborhood, usually around family for their whole life. Well, that that that went away, I mean, and then not necessarily was a bad thing that went away, people moved, they moved around, they went in their careers, took them different places. And in the in the cloistered family, you know, we kind of got away from that. And that distance was separated people tremendously. Well, now, with social media, you can be anywhere, and then you can be back together. I remember my associate, Arthur met his wife in Canada. And he's talked to her and he used to say, I'm on what was the Skype? Yeah, I used to say, um, you know, he's talking to her every night on Skype, but I okay, Skype, I didn't, I didn't pay much attention to it. But you know, it was there. So, I think that the fact that it allows people to connect families Connect, you can reconnect with old relationships, I'm just another sonnet, and I don't use it very much. But I am using it to reconnect with people that I haven't seen 25 or 30 years. And, and that's good. You know, so connecting people together, see, people have an innate, need to belong and to be connected, you know, some animals are, or live alone in the mill, mill lions, if they don't, they live alone, necessarily. You know, but human beings are not like that human beings are social. And they need to connect and be connected with other people. And I think that social media has done that. Now. I think, you know, when you see people say, you know, I went to dinner, and they show the food they ate, I think that's a little bit over the top. But if that's what they want, and somebody wants to watch it, that service, you know, he do that. But when you know, when you can, when you can see your grandchildren, you know, 10 states away, you know, you're in Pennsylvania, they're in Colorado, and you can see your grandchildren growing up, that you would have missed, you know, you can't do just that, what's that worth, you know, at my age, and being a grandfather, it's worth everything, you know, to be able to see those those are memories you would have never had had it not been for social media and those social media started out with a great intention. And that's basically what it was. And, and I can't see anything but good about that, you know, unlike anything else, you get other people using it for other purposes, which we'll talk about in the future podcast, but the whole overall technology and then social media it's it's remarkable. I just before I came here to do the podcast, I did my first zoom meeting. I'm a trainer I train people and I train people and help them adjust their attitude Lehner attitude with their goals. It's a process I call breakout. And I've been doing that face to face now for 20 years, they would sit in front of me and I would, I would work with them and help them find the limiting opinions, holding them back and get help get rid of it. And then we would they would make great progress. Well, I've been doing that now. I said almost 20 years, around 20 years. This is the first one I ever did with zoom. And it actually works better. And it actually works better. And then being face to face. I didn't show I didn't let him see me. I saw my my client. And I could see all of his facial expressions, all of his I could hear him perfectly and read him perfectly. And I think looking at me would have just been a distraction. So when he's looking at a blank screen, he was really inside himself, which is where he had to be. So I see myself now training trainers trading people doing the breakouts, I don't see myself having to drive somewhere, or somebody having to drive to me, maybe you want to meet somebody that way eventually, but it's not going to be important. I don't I think with this virus that we had had, I guess we still have and it's I think it's gonna come to a close here in the next six, eight months. But with this virus, we all learned a new way of living, you know, virtual appointments. You know, some of my sales people said they had virtual appointments, I thought that isn't gonna work. You know, you got to be there. Well, it did work. They're making sales on virtual appointments. I used to bring my sales staff to 25 people around Twitter that people I would bring them into my office every Friday. Some of them are driving an hour and a half to get there. So if they met at nine o'clock in the morning, by the time they get out of there, it was probably around 1130 noon so that pretty much last Friday is a selling day now. They come on the they do a zoom meeting at nine o'clock. It's over and 2530 minutes. They have the rest of their whole day and nobody had to drive and spend all that way. All that fue l, and all that time. So that is, that's a form of social media because a sales management meeting is a social event as well as an info information event. So I just see it, I just see it getting better and better and more useful and more helpful. As time goes on, I think there'll be a lot less need for people to get on airplanes to go see their clients, you know, that you really don't have to do that anymore. Maybe you're gonna do a little bit, but I, I don't know what that will do to air travel, and airlines probably gonna make a major adjustment, but I just see it, I see all kinds of wonderful things that I've been experiencing all kinds of wonderful things. And the virus forced me to other than that, I was kind of this Okay, it's out there. Now I use it. I said, My God, what I had been missing, 
it's forced a lot of, you know, technological change, I think a lot of businesses and a lot of dividuals as well, 
right.
One thing, 
I'm sorry, go ahead
 one thing that I think of, you know, whenever I think of like social media, and it's such a broad definition, it's not just you know, Facebook, and Instagram, or Twitter, or whatever it may be, it's, I just looked up the definition of it, let me get back to that. Bad radio here, websites and applications that enable users to create and share content or to participate in social networking. And when you were talking, I was just thinking about Facebook has their, their feature or their function, it's called, you know, like Facebook groups. And there's a lot of different social networking sites that do that, where you can, you know, sort of get into groups with people who share, you know, similar hobbies similar to you like, so like a car, or like a Mustang Car Club. Yeah. Like, that is really cool. 
If somebody likes horses, 
yeah, like we were talking about, it allows people to connect. And in that case, it's people that you would have, you know, never even really connected with, 
right, because it could be all over the world, 
all over the world, all over the country. And, you know, sometimes maybe they're even close by, and you can have like, a little like a meetup or something with people, 
my business partner, belongs to us. It was called the durant Club, which is a very limited car that only had a few years life, but he was president of the club for a long time is pretty active in it. But, you know, when he talks about my buddy in Germany, or my buddy in Australia, I mean, going back quite a few years, four or five years. I mean, you know, that what you're talking about? That is what was possible? Yeah, totally. Actually. Sometimes those people they get together once or twice a year for a meeting. I think that was always in the United States somewhere. But you know, that, that those are other outreaches, that does pulls a world together. 
Yeah. And I think that that really kind of influences a lot of positivity in people's lives. It's not just, you know, scrolling through your feed and seeing like, horrible news and stuff that just kind of like brings you down during your day. But it's stuff that, you know, brings happiness to your life. And, 
yeah, one of the things I never did I know we're jumping on the other side, but one of the things I never did was get on Twitter. Because I think Twitter's just people's opinion, and I don't need anybody's opinions. I tried to get rid of my own watch list adopt somebody else's. But that's all part of our patent process on breakup. Because but, so I never got on Twitter, but and Instagram, you can message somebody do a little bit of that, but a little bit of Facebook, but using the internet, you know, it's just, I type in? I'll type in a question on Google. Right. And it is amazing what I can come up with. I mean, I can ask a question, how do you find how do you find the addresses of people who are wealthy donors, boom, now I'm getting getting solicited on my phone every, every day about companies that provide an information, you know, and I had no idea where you know, but So, like I said, I'm new to it. I'm new to it, because I ignored it for so long. And it's just a wonderful tool. 
Yeah, I had one friend that did even a virtual wedding. Which is like another thing you know, it's just like really cool what people have been able to do, especially with the pandemic, like I said, it's really forced people to he had a wedding on zoom. You know, everybody was on the zoom call watching 
what they do for food, have pizza
smell come out of your speaker of the food. It was just you know, it was cool being able to like you couldn't be there. They didn't want to cancel the wedding. They were ready to get married. But sure, I still got to watch you know, one of my my best friends to 
watch him get married, which is good.
 And that's just wasn't really popularized, you know, months ago or a year ago, 
right? 
Or even you know, church services or whatever religious service or concerts It's everything like that it's in some aspects, it's a little sad, because a lot of the social aspect of that stuff is removed, which we can talk about in future episodes. 
Well, you know, with the virus, it'll come back to Yeah, like I said, People want to, they want to press the flesh to they want to shake hands touch each other and look at each other in the eyes. But, you know, social media, and the technology brings you about as close to that as you can get that will come back, there's no question that people still want to be families, friends, you know, gatherings come together. 
Yeah, I wonder if the reason we're seeing you know, sort of a spike in cases recently, it's because everybody was so ready to get back to that maybe a little too soon,
 probably.Well, people were, you know, with a virus, people are really, they're really shut in. And I know myself, I, you know, I look at my personal credit card, I pay it off every month, when it comes in, you know, it would be probably anywhere from 1800 to 20 $500, I have had months of the run under 500. For 475. You know, I didn't spend any money coming in spending money, I didn't go anywhere. Because you know, I didn't go to restaurants, I you spend a lot, I eat out a lot, we eat out a lot, you know, all I was gone, you know, and, and I entertain a lot. So, you know, if you're going to have a party dinner party, you probably spend 200 $300, to have a nice dinner party, and you're not doing that either. So it's different and very different that way, you know, I think it'll come back, 
that saving of money is also causing people to make bigger purchases, which is, so I bought a car, I have a friend who's looking to buy a car. And he was saying, it's hard to get a good deal on a car right now. Because they're just telling you out, right? People will a lot of people are just buying car buying cars. But you're saying, you know, a lot of people are buying houses and rallies that are bad that are affordable. 
The younger people are buying houses in Pittsburgh here run, but 250 and under the ones that 450 are not moving as well. 
And that's really interesting. I think that, you know, the lack of sort of excess spending and entertainment spending is certainly not 
which may change people's spending habits too. I have to tell you, I do not feel the need to go back to the restaurants as much as I used to. I don't feel that need. And I actually feel bad for restaurants, I think they take in the hardest hit in this pandemic, because you need to have 85% capacity to make it work. And you know, they were at zero capacity. And when they did go back they were 20% 25.
Well, luckily, one thing is that online ordering does do pretty well. For those business. 
Yes, the ones that adapted a lot, a lot of them couldn't adapt.
Yeah, my dad has a smoothie bowl smoothie shop. And since they implemented online ordering, their business has actually increased. So more people are buying their product now than they were a year ago. And I think that's really interesting. Yeah, something wrong.
Yeah, some of that has worked away. Our retail remodeling business Kitchens and Baths is actually up. Since then, we've had two months of nothing within it's actually up. So I think that it's to do with a lot of internal changes we've made, you know, but it but it's still up. But as I talked to other merge suppliers, there have been others are not experiencing that so much in our industry. You know, a lot of them are flat.
Well, I think that we've kind of covered everything that there is on, I'm sure there's more positives of social media, and I'm sure we could sit here all day and talk about it. But I think that this is probably good for today. And next time we'll get into, you know, really well documentaries.
As we finish up the I think it's I think it's you know, I don't care what what innovation you have, you know, it has to be used wisely. And you know, you know, take an automobile, okay, and automobiles a weapon if you don't drive it correctly. You know, so whatever, guns, okay, guns are fine, is if you don't use them safely. Okay, and so forth. So everything, I think anything beneficial has two sides to it. It has to be used properly. And I think we have to find the balance and and in social media. So what that'll be our topic for next time. Yeah.
And an automobile, just kind of going off that real quick. And automobile is a weapon if you don't use it correctly. And you know, think about if automobiles had progressed as fast as computing power and technology has progressed, they said in the documentary, it's increased it like almost a trillion times since it's been around and you know,
 what has computers?
 the computing power and 
it's absurd.
 they're like, imagine if cars had, you know, progress that quickly we would, we would be going like thousands of miles per hour and like people We're just getting crushed. Like, it's crazy, there's no wonder because we can't evolve to handle that quickly enough to, you know, be able to deal with it properly and right,
I can tell you this about cars, I mean, you know, cuz I started driving in 63. And I watched cars in the late 50s and early 60s, okay? If you would invariably see a car, that rollover was on its roof or whatever, you know, just in a normal year, you'd probably see a dozen of those accidents not you know, you just see him observing. I don't can't remember the last time I saw a car leave its wheels. That's, that's improvement. So cars have improved brakes. In 1965, you must, will drag your feet to stop, you know, now I have three or four different types of vehicles. Now, I can stop almost on a dime on any one of the analog brakes, you know, so you don't skid this brings you to a stop. So they really, they really have improved. Now they're starting to have the Driver Assist, you know, I bought my lady a Volvo. And she can literally take her eyes off the wheel at a drive, I can't stand it because you have to press a button or it wants to take you in. So you can override it, you know, but they've, they've improved too. So and I can appreciate I don't know that they could ever get this facet or you know, do what computers can do. I still cannot understand how you could put that data in that little space. But I don't need to, because they do they know how to do that. I just use it.
Yeah, it was social media would almost be like if you put, you know, the owner of a Model T behind the wheel of a car of the fastest car 100 years from now. Yeah. And there. They would crash it. Yeah, there's no doubt. And we're crashing social media and we'll get into that. 
You know, there's more. There's more computer ability in a child's game than what they used to go to the moon. Yeah. And that's a fact. I mean, if you just look at that make a comparison. How primitive it was then in 69, we went to the moon and what they have now, so
crazy. Alright, well,
maybe next week.
We'll talk to you next week. And thank you everybody for listening to this episode of The thing to win podcast. We will be back next week with an interesting and maybe a little disturbing. Episode, a couple of episodes on the downsides of social media. If you enjoy the podcast, please leave a like and a comment and subscribe. That really helps us out a lot. And if you'd like to learn more, check out our website at Platinum edge sales training. com Thanks for listening, goodbye.