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Three Angry Giants Fans (and a Jets Fan)
S7 E3 - Schedule Release Breakdown
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Scott, Cardone and Novak discuss the schedule release and how we feel the season is shaping up. The Jets don't have a Prime Time Game and has 15 1PM games on Sunday - sign me up!!!!!. We also air our Pet Peeves and then finish up with listener questions.
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We're listening to season seven of the Angry Football Fans Podcast, where your hosts Scott, Giant Mike, Cardone, and Novak rant about the putrid displays of their teams, grumble about the shenanigans in the NFL, and gripe about everything else in between. We also list our pet peeves and take listener questions. Download our podcast wherever you get yours and subscribe to our YouTube channel. We have a blast doing this.
SPEAKER_00Caleb Downs, the 11th overall pick in the draft. They hope he's going to make a huge difference in safety. You've got the Giants who added Ravel Reese, another former Ohio State player who's going to create havoc defensively. You've got John Harbaugh as the new head coach. Jackson Dart, expectations for him in year two. There have been some Cowboys-Giants games in recent years that haven't been as good as games in past years. This could be the dawn of a new era where these two teams really do jostle to try to take over the division, a division that the Eagles are desperately trying to keep in their group.
SPEAKER_02So that's Mike Florio talking about the Giants Dallas home opener on the first Sunday night of the year. And this will mark eight out of the last 15 years that the Giants will play the Dallas Cowboys to open up a season. I don't think there's another two teams that have had this type of uh of schedule over the last 15 years, but uh of course we get that. So we're here to break down the schedule release. We are the three of you Giant fans at a Jet fan podcast with your host Scott uh Cardone and Jets fan Novak. Giant Mike is uh he he's he's on his off-season sabbatical. I think he's in Turkey. Uh, you know, he's oh no, it's uh Myanmar.
SPEAKER_01I think he's in I was just saying I think he's in Burma trying to get an expense report uh approved and signed by uh Peterman or something. When it's off season, Mike is off-season, man.
SPEAKER_03He is just he is checked out.
SPEAKER_01I'll tell you who's not off season is the is the New York Knickerbockers. We have to start there. Right. Go New York, go New York, go.
SPEAKER_03You went right there, right to the Knicks. Why would we wait? Like that's that's all I can think about. I mean, yes, we're gonna talk at the schedule release and the Jets and the Giants and all of that, but is there anything more exciting than this Knicks team?
SPEAKER_01Nothing.
SPEAKER_03I mean, yeah, four more wins. And uh Cardo and I were talking about this. I of my four major sports teams, Jets, Giants, Knicks, Rangers, I have not had a championship since '94 Rangers. And even then, the Knicks were, I'm a bigger Knicks fan than Rangers fan. I barely paid attention. I really haven't seen anything for like 40 years in '86. So it's I am over frickin' due for a championship.
SPEAKER_02I gotta ask you guys this. Is there any other NBA team that brings out the old players when they're on a run like this, like the Knicks do? You know, courtside, you got Ewing there, Starks, you know, even Latrell Sprewell's there, Bernard King.
SPEAKER_01I know. Dusting these guys off. No, because I I think we're so starved for a championship. Yeah, celebrities, we know all the freaking celebrities that are at the gate. They must show these guys every that's fine now. I'm on board with everything. I don't care. Nothing is annoying me about the Knicks right now in terms of all of it. No. So yeah, they're they're no, they're they're wheelbowering these guys out there because we're so desperate and starved for a championship that everybody wants to be a part of it.
SPEAKER_03And everybody, you know, there's we how can you not? Absolutely. And I am happy to say I was dead wrong about Mike Brown. Dead wrong. I was unhappy with that hire. I thought it was, you know, they're gonna be a middling team, and he has we got we we can go 10-11 deep on that bench. I mean, our 11th guy is getting playing time, or 10th guy. Um, very different than Thibodeau. They are exciting, they can score, they can play defense. I don't know that they're gonna win if they play OKC, but man, they are fun to watch. Oh, come on, man.
SPEAKER_01They have a good chance. I really do. Yeah, it's gonna be tough, but uh and you guys know I'm a Villanova fan, so the to see uh the Villanova trio, yeah. I wish uh DiVincenzo was still there. Maybe we find a way to bring him back somehow, you know, reacquire him and and uh get that whole unit back. So there's a championship uh bloodline there or something with these guys. So they know how to win, man.
SPEAKER_02You know who was one of the Knicks on that 1999 team that lost to the Spurs in the finals?
SPEAKER_01Well, let's see, it was Camby and Sprewell and Houston. Oh, Rick Brunson. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Rick Brunson was on that team. That's right.
SPEAKER_01Did he even get any playing time? I don't even remember. I don't know. He was like the Tyler Koelick of uh the 99 team. Garbage time. Yeah, he's a garbage time guy. That's right.
SPEAKER_02So uh the schedule release came out. Uh, we were gonna record last week. We had some technical difficulties and uh we decided to push it because you know what, guys? The schedule doesn't change between the time it's released and the time they actually play it. So uh we actually had some time to absorb the schedule, take a look at what's going on. Uh, but before we get into it, I wanted to point out we had six downloads of our last episode from Ireland. And we had Ireland, three from Sweden. So we were we're cornering that that northern area of Inca in Europe. Inga from Sweden with her? Would you like to try the rock talk?
SPEAKER_01That was when they were they were they were cabined up with beaks, yeah. Clarence Beeks. Didn't we just talk about him like a week ago in the yeah?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, we were talking about the Breakfast Club, and I showed and I gave you the bulls are getting the horns.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, Paul Gleason, right? I'm like, oh that's Brad Vernon. He was also Clarence Beeks.
SPEAKER_02Rest in peace. Yeah. So uh I wanted to give a shout out, and this one's gonna be an international one. Yes. So uh well, we'll see how well I do with the pronunciation, too. Oh, geez. Hello, Boharno, Quebec. Population 18,000. It was named for the Battle of Bull Boharno and uh in 1836 between Lower Canadian Loyalists and Patriot Rebels. Uh, it's the home of the world's largest run of rivers hydroelectric plant. So it's a it's a suburb of Montreal, which is interesting because Montreal is in the fine in the uh Eastern Conference finals with uh Carolina Hurricanes right now. So uh we have some listeners in Canada, we have listeners in Ireland, we have listeners in Sweden. And guys, if I taily it up, we've been in so far 62 other countries than our own. Damn. It's pretty impressive.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, can we get some scratch from doing this? What are we doing?
SPEAKER_01So if you watch this on video, like do you automatically get subtitles in each other?
SPEAKER_02Like, I like what what I think there are expats that are just excited about the giants.
SPEAKER_03So was it you said Boharno or Bohardo?
SPEAKER_02Boharnot, so it's B-A B-E-A-U-H-A-R-N-O-I-S.
SPEAKER_03Boharnois.
SPEAKER_02Beauharnois. I mean Ballon, right?
SPEAKER_01It sounds like. Yeah. Is that is that the chicken place?
SPEAKER_02I think it is. I think you're right, Delvac.
SPEAKER_03I mean, I would think, right? Beauharnois. Well, let's say, right? But French.
SPEAKER_02I don't know. Pat Patrick Wah was R O Y.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Well, that's true. Well, nonetheless, Quebec is a great city, and we have a fan there, which is which is fantastic. Yeah, welcome. The only city in the world that still celebrates a team that hasn't played there in 20 years.
SPEAKER_02Although Quebec, so Hartford Whalers.
SPEAKER_03Oh, Hardwood, that's true. That's the other one.
SPEAKER_02Quebec is a province.
SPEAKER_03Okay, that's fair.
SPEAKER_02It's true. Yeah. So uh just uh I mean Canadian knowledge there. Um, but there was both Quebec City and and Montreal, which are the two big, big uh areas up there. Yeah. Because I think Ottawa is actually in Ontario, isn't it? It is so the schedules are out. Uh guys, I I was steaming hot when I saw that the Giants had to play two primetime games to open up the uh year, and then uh I my my anger subsided. So I'm gonna go through the Giants schedule we can talk about after that. But week one, home against Dallas, at least it's home Sunday night. Week two at the Rams opening up their home opener uh Thursday night. So again, prime time. But then we come back to Met Death and we play Tennessee and Arizona back-to-back weeks three and four. Then we go on the road to Washington, uh well, Washington, uh District of Columbia, and then we have New Orleans at home, go to Houston, and have our bye week eight, which is I think the earliest we've had a bye in the last four or five years.
SPEAKER_03Really good so far.
SPEAKER_02And then after the bye, uh we're at Philadelphia. Um, which I'll give a little caveat there. It's not as bad as you think it might be doing that. Um then we we play Washington on a Thursday night at home. So that's our third and final primetime game, which is three more than the Jets will have had.
SPEAKER_01No, one more later, Scott. There is none.
SPEAKER_02Oh, is there another one? Oh is it Detroit? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yep, you're right. Uh, and then and then we're home against Jacksonville. We go to Indy, week 12, week 13 home against San Francisco, at Seattle, and then we come back home against Cleveland, and then the closing stretch 16, 17, and 18 is at Detroit, at Dallas, and we close the season home against Philly. So that Detroit game is uh is a Monday nighter, right?
SPEAKER_01Yes, it is. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So four four primetime games, which I'm sure is just the Harbaugh factor. Um, and and and guys, I gotta tell you, first glance, like I said, I was angry about opening up on those two games uh primetime, but after that, looking at the bye week eight, if we're not four and three at the bye, uh I I I think we're we're off track.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah, like when this we talk about the leaks every year, right? And there's and this year was no different, of course. So we knew uh we knew the Dallas was a Sunday night game. That was the first thing we knew uh opening up. And I like and like you said, Scott, eight times in the last 15 years. Is the country not sick to death of this matchup on week one? Think about it. I'm sick to death of it. Yes. Because I I just can't, it's disgusting seeing Dallas every year. Like we or week two. I want to see of those other seven years, how many times we played them also in week two. It happened last year. Because we don't forget, we were on the road for two division games to start the season last year. The second one at Washington at Dallas at Dallas. So what and then the the Munyanighter at uh Los Angeles, uh the Rams. That's that's pretty brutal. Um I already feel it's a must-win anyway, because you got to win the home opener. We uh we've been talking for years now. The Giants have not gotten off to good starts uh in like eight, nine, ten straight years. I think it was 22, and maybe was the only year they started off well.
SPEAKER_02The two years in the last 10 that they've won their op home opener, they've gone to the playoffs.
SPEAKER_01They've gone to the playoffs. Yeah, 2016 and 2022.
SPEAKER_02Um actually not home opener, just their opening game. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Okay, or just okay, right, right. Um, so that Dall, that that home opener against Dallas, uh, you know, and this is if the Giants are gonna turn it around, which we think they will, um, you know, you gotta they're gonna be tested right away. Uh at least the games at home, uh, which they haven't been great at home. We know they haven't been great at prime time, but this is gonna be a different, you know, we think this is a different giant team. It should be. It's gonna look different, right? So um, but it still feels like a must-win week one, because if you lose that, the Giants lose week one, then you're talking about going on the road to a Ram team that is a Super Bowl contender at LA. That's their home opener. They're not winning that game. I can already see it. Like, how are you winning that game? And there we go, sitting in that fucking 0-2 hole, potentially. So that's why week one is gonna be just um a wreck fest, as I call it. I'll be a nervous wreck watching that game. But um, but then as you said, Scott, after you know, we've been talking uh on our pod here, you just give us some just give us some winnable games in September and October, and the the schedule makers finally did that. So you you know you went through this, you went through the week by week schedule there, and to have the next four weeks Tennessee, Arizona, New Orleans at home, and then slip in at Washington. Um, I'll throw even at Washington in there. That's I think that's a winnable game, too. Um that's four winnable games right there early in the season. So if they are able to beat Dallas, if they're let's just assume, not assume, but like if they're able to beat Dallas, you almost throw away the Ram game because I I don't see how they're gonna be able to, you know, the Rams are coming off. They'll also be on, by the way, a 13 or 12 or 13 day rest because they're playing in the opening, what, Wednesday night or something like that, aren't they? In where are they? Australia or some shit like that?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so they're playing the opening game. If it's on a Wednesday night or yeah, right. I think it's Wednesday night, third time, Thursday. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Okay. So they have all that travel and stuff coming back, but nonetheless. You know, and then I like the fact that um at Houston's gonna be very tough. We know that their defense is still gonna be uh, you know, it's gonna be another one of the better defenses in the league. At least they have the bye week before at Philly. So it's not true two road games in a row there. I like that. I like I like where the buy is, and then we have a couple more home games. This is the year the NFC gets the extra home game, so makes a big difference when you see it on paper to see nine home games versus you know the eight versus AFC Novak this year with the Jets, you know, that that rotates every year, of course. Um and then you know, the Giants rotate, you know, uh a couple of home and away for about five weeks, I think. And then Scott, you meant those last three games. Here's the thing about that at Detroit, at Dallas, Philly. You don't know what those games will mean every year. Like, you know, those teams could have maybe a seed wrapped up or Philly, you know, who knows? Let's assume you know, maybe Philly wins the division again or something like that. They may not need that game. Say the Giants need one of those games to slip into a wild card spot or something. Um, you know, so it's not that bad that you that you have some really tough games, you know, the last couple weeks of the year. So um I'm actually not pissed at the schedule this year, uh, aside from you know, maybe the first two weeks that are gonna be tough. They're both in prime time. Uh, they got a lot of one o'clock games on Sunday. I think we kind of like that for our um you know social uh activities that we uh usually like to partake in on uh our favorite watering hole. We'll do that a lot this year. Um I know we'll get into Novak's game one uh you know, once we break down the jets here a bit. But I gotta be honest, for our for our listeners and for you know, for us, um, I'm actually not that pissed this year. I I think um for once the early part of the season has some favorable games and some winnable games, and maybe, just maybe, but like by the time, like you said, Scott, by the time we go to the bye week and mid-season, we could be at least uh you know a game over 500 or something, and at least give us some meaningful games in November going into December. So um I think we're I think the Giants got a pretty decent schedule. I really do. I think uh I'm not too pissed.
SPEAKER_02And I felt that it was favorable this year that the the schedule makers finally did something right here in terms of travel. So the the the Giants only have two sets of games where they are away back to back, and one of them is is broken up by a bye. So they're at at Houston, a bye, and then they're at Philly. And then the next stretch was at one week 16 and 17 at Detroit and then at Dallas. I think that's reasonable. I can't stand when you see some of these schedules that come out that you have, you know, a three-game, uh, you know, four out of five games, you're on the road. It does not make sense at all to do that. Now, now we do have a stretch there. We're at home against San Francisco. We go on the road at Seattle, come back for Cleveland. That's fine. You know, you travel and you you're gonna cross country. That that is okay with me. And no interna, no international games.
SPEAKER_01No, no international games, which I'm fine with. Uh, I could I really don't care about those international games uh to be over there. So um I do want to say though, the the fact that they're at Detroit on a Monday night and then have to go back on the road at Dallas, that's pretty brutal because you're essentially losing the entire day and a half the week before, and then uh having to go down to Dallas that um you know the week after being uh on the road on a Monday night, that is pretty brutal.
SPEAKER_02Um we will we will talk about when we get to Peacock's question, but but Dallas does have a couple brutal parts in their schedule in terms of travel.
SPEAKER_01So yeah. I think yeah, real real quick, Novak, and then we'll get to the Jets. I you know, being that there's so many, and we'll get into this, I think, overall, they like Scott, if you want to talk about the NFL scheduling in as a general, you know, like because there's so many freaking games now, you know, like Thanksgiving Eve, Black Friday, Saturday games, this and like they the NFL has gone crazy with all these, you know, with scattering these games around. It's hard to find a schedule, like everybody's schedule seems brutal in one way or another. You know what I mean? Like there's there's teams they they seem to be stacking up road games, stacking up home games, you know, crazy kind of travel all over. Like I I I reviewed a number of different teams, and there's a lot of teams with just some crazy uh you know scheduling uh anomalies, if you will, um, you know, this year. So more more than ever.
SPEAKER_03So when Scott was going through your games, I always like to listen to the last three, four games. I had you at eight and six going into those last three games, which are what Dallas, Detroit, and Philly. Yep. Uh the way, I think. Well, Detroit Detroit at Dallas and Philly at home. But those are the three teams you're playing. Those are the three games. Which are three tough games. But yeah, and I'm not saying that's right, but I was l I mean you have a fairly not easy, but you have a softer middle of the schedule game list. Um and if you could be there, if you could be eight and six going into those last three weeks, you have to think one of those three teams is probably not as good as we think they're going to be, and you got to pick off one more. You I mean, this team could win 10 games.
SPEAKER_01Um you never know because is is Jacksonville gonna be as good? Uh is Indianapolis gonna be as good. We never gotta know. It's hard to know.
SPEAKER_03Um I mean, it's you know, Houston was uh good last year, but you know, that was all defense. Have they really improved? I don't I haven't seen them make it that. I mean, if their quarterback is as bad as he was in the playoffs, they could be just a a disaster and you know that type of thing. You you just don't know. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02I uh what I like is that well, I like it and I don't. If we're not competitive after Halloween this year, then we have severe problems because if we can't do it early in the season, we're not gonna do it late in the season. So that that is that is the thing. Before the bye being on week eight, if we're not at four and three or better, we we are looking at you know missing the playoffs again and then having a long off season.
SPEAKER_03I mean, if if you do lose week one and week two, which I don't think you will, I think you'll beat Dallas. But if you are 0-2 and you go to that Titan game, which is a must-win, you get a little tighter, if for some reason you lost that, forget it, it could spiral spiral. Stop it. I'm not saying that's gonna happen. I'm saying that's but that's where it spirals.
SPEAKER_01I know it's here it is, you know, May, but like it's true though, Novak. I think you know that the Dallas game, uh, I already have a good feeling about it. I think that John. I think we're gonna win that game. I kind of have a feeling like that's one where um I feel I I feel you know more on the you know 50% side that we're we're we're gonna win that game versus you know, that's oh shit, we're not beating Dallas. There's no chances and that. No, we definitely have, I think, um, I already have a good feeling about that game.
SPEAKER_02Uh and it's months and months away, but it's we still don't know if neighbors and scatabow will be there week one, though. That's that's part of it. That's an issue.
SPEAKER_01That's a big issue for sure. Yeah. Um, but we have all of our uh, you know, we we should be stacked on our defensive line going into week one.
SPEAKER_02So I you know it's hey our our worst nightmare is going on two, like Novak said, then watching week three, Salah and Dable like pumping their fists as they're leaving the field.
SPEAKER_03Right. Can you imagine? I forgot Dable is there. That's right. Oh yeah. And like half the Giants, isn't like Flot there now? Flot there, Wandale Robinson, Wondell, Flot, uh Bellinger.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Oh, that's right. God.
SPEAKER_02Not Koo, though, the kicker.
SPEAKER_03He's a jet now, so great.
SPEAKER_02I don't know if you heard this story. Did you guys ever hear the story about Koo saving someone's life?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I did see. I saw I heard about that.
SPEAKER_02So Cardone, a guy, a guy saw Koo's kick and laughed so hard that he like just started like I think coughing like uncontrollably from the laughter, and he ended up going to the hospital and they found out he had cancer. Oh my god. So they they caught the cancer in time to treat him, and if they hadn't, they don't think they would have caught it. So coup's fucking coup.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So by the way, you know, I never you know it's funny, we're we're laughing about it now. I don't know. Did we ever go back on the coup fucking pitching foot pitching wedge planted in the dirt? We're talking, we are talking about that, we are, yes. So did that officially go down as an attempt? Really, does the does the record books because how can you what do you put in there like uh wide right or wide what short? You know how like they describe the kick? That's a good one. I don't think that gets I don't think that can be it's there's no way that's an attempt because if anything, it's probably but it's leg. But no, no, but he never c made contact with the ball. I think it's the same as a fucking like fake fake kick attempt. And what's his name? The hammer got probably when this retin went in the statistical record book as a rush for minus 12 yards or whatever it was on that play.
SPEAKER_03Don't you think? I think I think you're right.
SPEAKER_01I think you're probably right. You're right. There's no way. So Koo, it's his fuck up, and he doesn't even get the missed field goal attempt on that.
SPEAKER_03Does it go down as a bad snap?
SPEAKER_01I don't I don't know how that's I think it just it just goes down as a rush for minus twelve, I think.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, maybe you're right, because the Scottish hammer had to rush, right?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, he had no choice but to grab the just to pick up the ball and just carry it, you know, like just run away with it.
SPEAKER_03Has he been picked up by anybody?
SPEAKER_01The hammer? I don't think he has yet. Absolutely not, because the guy we we we said he wouldn't be picked up, and the guy was on our roster for like four years. That's a Joe Shane special right there. That's a Shane. That's a Shane, yep. Hey, let we didn't talk about it.
SPEAKER_03Joe Shane gets extended. So for a Yeah, but did you tell did I tell you guys why, though? Because he serves good coffee? He does. He introduced Harbaugh to ice coffee, and Harbaugh was very impressed by it, and he put Korigs in everyone's office and did away with coffee pots. And so they were very impressed by this work ethic, and he got an extension. Good for him. No, no percolators? No, he he is all Keurig, um, from what I've read. He did his homework on it, put a lot of time and effort into it, had all those folders in his backpack, and he got an extension. Good for him. Coffee boy.
SPEAKER_01I'll tell you, I've been using a Keurig for years. It's one of the best inventions of my lifetime. It really is exactly.
SPEAKER_02No doubt. And Jay knew it. I you know, I used to like wake up in the morning at my grandparents' house, and I would just hear the gurgling. The percolator. Oh, the per the old percolator. Yeah, when they're making coffee back in the old pot with the little sprouts and things.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah. Remember that thing that inside was like a that fucking stainless steel thing? It looked like a mini dryer drum inside. You know what I'm talking about? Inside the hot. Yeah. I don't know what that was.
SPEAKER_02You know, I wonder what caught the coffee experience used to be like. I mean, I think you just brewed like Maxwell House and drank it black back then because it wasn't like you could go to the corner and find a Starbucks or anyone with decent coffee.
SPEAKER_03It was like um when Book Bookman went to Seinfeld's apartment and he was like, you don't keep a Senka? Yeah.
unknownSenka.
SPEAKER_03Folgers freeze dried.
SPEAKER_01You throw it in the freezer and forget about it. When you're there, when you want it, you need it. You know, like Bookman was so fast. You know what was in my house growing up, so Novak in Lincroft, my grand my grandparents, you know, we live with my grandparents. We had those gigantic containers of chock full of nuts. Chock full of nuts. So that was the ground coffee. And then my my grandfather, Gramps, we just called him Gramps for short. We had like 50 of those in the garage with fucking like nuts and bolts inside, like those coffee containers, like then like just housed, you know, like just random, you know, nuts and bolts, and like it's just like random tools and shit out there. Yeah, that's what was in my garage. Those big containers, those big chock full of nuts containers.
SPEAKER_03If I were a better singer, I would sing the chock full of nuts jingle, which was uh hilarious back in the day. Chock full of nuts is that.
SPEAKER_02So uh back on the football scare uh stretch, we got the Jets schedule. So Jets again, week one, we're looking forward to it at Tennessee. So Salah plays the Jets, Dable will be there. Uh week two, they come home and face Green Bay, week three at Detroit, week four at Chicago, week five, home for Cleveland, week six at New England, week seven at home for Miami, then week eight, home for Las Vegas, then they go at Kansas City, home for Buffalo, week eleven, they're at the clip, then they're at Miami, they have their bye week 13, so a pretty late buy. And then after the bye, they host Denver, go to Arizona, host New England, host Minnesota, and finish up at Buffalo. Um, couple of things to note, no primetime games. Yes, a ton of one o'clock on Sunday games. It's a throwback, it's a throwback schedule.
SPEAKER_03I I mean I'm I'm not necessarily upset about the schedule. It's actually harder than it should be for coming in as the second worst team in the NFL. I don't love the fact that you know, find the Titans and Salah, we'll get into that a second. But weeks two, three, and four, you gotta play NFC West or NFC Central teams. What like that's an odd team.
SPEAKER_02Back to back to back.
SPEAKER_03Back to back to back, yeah. And the three best teams in that division. I I don't like that at all. Um but when it comes down to it, this is an eight-game season for the Jets. It's an eight-game season. If they're anything worse than three and five, I think Glenn gets fired at that point. And I think we see Frank Reich, I think we see Claid Klubnick, and we start prepping for 27. So, you know, and I think they will be. I think they'll be two and six, maybe one and seven. They're not gonna be good. I'd like to think they'll be improved, but I can't complain when you when you just look at the schedule. You know, it is what it is. It's not terrible. One o'clock games I love. As far as viewing the Jets, this is the the best it can be. And you now see what the dick factor was when we had him. We were on every week. We were on primetime, and we've got none. Not one. Only three teams in the league have no primetime games. I think it's the Jets, the I want to say the Raiders, and probably the Titans, I think. So I mean it is what it is. But the schedule seems very difficult for a you know a three and fourteen team from a previous year, but you know, we'll see how it goes.
SPEAKER_02Guys, neither of our teams, and and this this next year is was one of the the ones with the most uh games outside of the United States, and neither of our teams are playing a foreign game, which uh we we both I know we both love the non-international games.
SPEAKER_01I tell you, when you had that extra road game, it just seems there's it just seems like there's so many acts on the schedule. So so the Jets open four of the first six on the road. Yep. Uh, and then when you you know, if you keep going down further, then they have a couple home games, and then the next three out of four again are on the road. So I I feel like you guys are out there, like the Jets are on the road a lot um through November the first couple months. Yeah. Which it's just gonna happen that way when you have that extra road game. It just, you know, you gotta they have to it has to go somewhere, and it just but doesn't it always seem on paper, it's like Jesus, it looks like there's three more than that one more, right? It always looks that way.
SPEAKER_03It needs to be 18 games. It I mean, or really it should be 16. I should never have changed it. But this one team has an extra road game, it's it's yeah.
SPEAKER_01I don't think they're gonna keep that. They'll probably don't I mean we've talked about this. They're they're probably gonna go to 18 regular season games, get back to uh even home and away. It just doesn't look right. I don't like it. I know that's the only thing they can do now is you know, rotate it back and forth, obviously, but I I just don't like that when you have that extra road game, it just makes it that much more challenging.
SPEAKER_02You know, we were talking about buys earlier, and you know, the the Jets have a a long or a later buy than than most teams at week 13 and the Giants are relatively early in week eight. When do when do you guys like when's your ideal buy week? I think I think mine would be like week nine, ten around there, you know.
SPEAKER_01I smack in the middle of the season, I think. I agree. I mean, I can't not I can't pick a particular week, but like somewhere like right in the middle, I would say. Kind of break the season in half. I I that's what I would prefer.
SPEAKER_03And it honestly it depends on what the the schedule is after. Um I would prefer it a little bit later than earlier. Um especially it depends on the age of your team, right? If you're a young team uh like the Jets are, I don't think it really matters all that much, but if you're an aging team, you know, or older team, you definitely want it um later, I would think.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I think I think you're after the bye is is relatively innocuous in that you know you play Denver, tough game there, but it's at home. Then you go to Arizona, which is a winnable game. Uh, then you're home for New England and Minnesota. I don't think New England's gonna be that good.
SPEAKER_03I I don't. I I'm just stepped back. I don't think they're gonna be the same team. This whole Vrabel scandal is bigger than people give it credit for. I I there's something not right about that New England team, and of course I'm gonna be wrong, and they're gonna be you know 15 and 2 in the end.
SPEAKER_01But Novak, they I think you're right, though, because again, it's one of those years where we've seen this topsy turvy, you know, worst of first kind of thing, and then it goes the opposite way, too, where I think for New England last year, everything just kind of just went their way.
SPEAKER_03The road there, the Super Bowl is ridiculous.
SPEAKER_01But even in regular season, they just had uh everything went their way for whatever reason. Uh what they win 13 games, I think, right?
SPEAKER_03Or something something crazy like that. So 13 times.
SPEAKER_01That's there's no way I would I would I would I'd put any amount of money that they don't come uh close to that uh this year. So um yeah, the Jets do have a late buy. I did see. I was looking at you know, so they uh I go by number of games, so like the Jets go 12 and then five. So 12 games and then the break, then the buy, then um five. Whereas the Giants go seven ten. Seven games by then ten uh after that. So that's that's I think it's a little early. I think I would that seem a little early weeks later. The Jets definitely seem late, but the Giants, yeah, now you kind of want to be in that nine-ten range, I think, is the right number.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01Giants do seem a couple weeks early, then I'd probably prefer.
SPEAKER_02I think buys start at five and end at 14. So it's okay.
SPEAKER_03So it's better than five. I would definitely not find one. Yeah, five sucks. I mean, geez.
SPEAKER_01Didn't the Giants have that last year? Were they weak? Where was it?
SPEAKER_03No, the Giants were late.
SPEAKER_02Giants were late last week year. They were week fourteen.
SPEAKER_03Because I remember you guys going, can't we just have a buy? So we're gonna have to watch this slop. Slop.
SPEAKER_02I think it was week 14, if I'm not mistaken, but it was late.
SPEAKER_01You got it, Scott. I'm looking at it was it was week 14. And the Giants it was in December.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, the Giants have traditionally had a later buy, like week 10 or later, you know. So I, you know, we were talking about the primetime games earlier, and this was brought up. I I started looking at this because of when they were talking about the Giants with Dallas, you know, you're like, you know, the Giants have a horrific record on primetime games, and they put up a graphic where the Giants and the Jets were the two worst teams in primetime games since 2017. So I looked at it. The Giants are four and twenty-four since 2017 on primetime, and the the Jets are three and seventeen. Holy crap. But so seven and forty-one combined? Seven and forty-one, but I want to ask you this question. How many times do you think our teams were favored to win those games? Oh, did you know this answer? I don't I know this answer.
SPEAKER_03I went and looked at the So 48 games, how many times were the combined total of the Jets and Giants?
SPEAKER_01So we had favored seven wins and 41 losses. Well, hang on. The Giants uh they always have more road games uh in prime time, it seems like. So none of they're not favored in any of those. Um God, I don't even like so combined, what's the uh what are we trying to I'm gonna say seven?
SPEAKER_02Close. So the Giants have four wins, the the Jets have three wins, and they've been favored in eight games. So right about where they should have been. Yeah, you know, so so when you hear this narrative about well, the the Giants suck on primetime, it's like, well, they're they're constantly playing a team they shouldn't beat.
SPEAKER_03Exactly. Well, that's fair.
SPEAKER_02Same with the Jets, too.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you know? Well, the Jets suck, though, it's different, but the Jets.
SPEAKER_01We've been complaining about that forever. The Giants have they've always had more. This in fact, I'm just thrilled that out of the way out of the four prime time, it's only half and half. Two home, two away. Two home, two away. Every year we have more road games. Uh and like you said, it's got and they're always like uh at least a divisional road game, it seems like this is the first year, uh, right, because our two roadies are um uh LA and Detroit. So we're not on the road in prime time against a division opponent, finally. Um that's a great thing, though. Like his favorite, right? Because they're they're always playing a juggernaut uh on the road uh in prime time. You're not like you said, you're not supposed to win those games.
SPEAKER_02No, when you look at it and you have only seven wins, you're like, well, that really sucks. But when you're only favored eight times, it really tracks with what you should have done.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I I actually think that you guys should be kind of excited about getting the Cowboys at home week one with Carbaugh and every the you know, dark coming back and there's excitement for in the around the Giants again. I think that's when you kind of want to get them, I think.
SPEAKER_02I am, but I would take Arizona at home week. You know, I just you know, it's just one of those things. Like, why is it constantly Dallas?
SPEAKER_03That's true. That's a good point.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. You know, I get what you're saying, though. I mean, I I it's better to be home than on the road for the for the most part. I think I think out of those 15 games that we've played Dallas to start the year in the last eight times, I think six of them have been in Dallas. So this will only be the second time the Giants have been at home.
SPEAKER_03I mean, with Harbaugh going there and the excitement around the Giants in New York, you knew you were not getting a nondescript game one. You knew it, though. There's no way that the NFL was gonna give you the Jaguars or the you know the Colts or something like that. Around the home or something. No, you knew you were getting the the Eagles or the Cowboys or you know the Lions or something like that. I knew you were gonna get a big game in week one.
SPEAKER_02And the early rumor was we were gonna play the Seahawks to open up their season.
SPEAKER_01That would have been much worse. Much so absolutely yeah, much worse. So yeah, to actually get the game at home, uh that's you know uh a favor right there. And then but Sunday night, yeah, but listen, it's it's uh it's Dallas. We have to play them twice every year, so we know we're gonna get them somewhere. Um so maybe we try to get maybe we we get them week one, and you know, we we beat them week one and flip the we flip the fucking script this year, you know, and we get off to the hot start, and you know, put let's put our throat on some of these other NFC East teams to get started. That's all we can hope for. Yep.
SPEAKER_02So Novak, uh any interesting schedules you see from around the league? I know you you called out the the Chiefs one on the first one. I was waiting for that.
SPEAKER_03I I was waiting for that. I the the I and I'm gonna I'm gonna try very hard this year to call them the IFL, the International Football League, because we're not a national sport anymore because we had 18 friggin' games around the world and Australia. Get out of here. What are we doing? So um I I was curious to see what they did with the Chiefs because you know Mahomes probably won't be back till week three or four. And I predicted that the NFIFL would give them, you know, the the Dolphins and the Raiders and the Jets and all these easy teams to get them off to a decent start with Justin Fields. And I think what the NFL did is they threw they threw us off the off the stink and they gave them the Broncos in week one just to say we're not gonna do that. But then the next weeks they've got Colts at home, Dolphins Road, Raiders Road. So I wasn't a hundred percent correct, but I see what they're doing. They're they're they're gonna lose that game anyway. Give them that loss in week one, and then we'll give them a couple easy ones or three easy ones next.
SPEAKER_01If we could just stay on the Chiefs schedule for a minute, because I I remember I looked at this I think maybe a week or so ago, and then I wanted to bring it up tonight. So if we yes, after weeks two, so they open up home against Denver Indy Indy, as you just said, do you know eight of their next 11 are on the road? That's brutal. Yeah, eight of eleven. But oh yeah, there are some tough ones in there. Uh I mean, regardless of who you're playing, you go on the road eight of eleven times. That is pretty brutal. Yeah. That's a lot. Dolphins, Raiders, Falcons, Cardinals, though, of those four. Yeah, but yeah.
SPEAKER_03But still, you're right.
SPEAKER_01Look at some of the road games, though. You got you're at, you know, at Seattle, at Denver, uh, you know, at Atlanta, at Buffalo, at the clip, at and you know, at Buffalo, at the clip, at Cincinnati, all in three weeks in a row on the road. That's brutal.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, they have actually a brutal schedule because they got the 49ers in here, they've got the the Rams, they've got the Bills. Yeah, that's it's not easy.
SPEAKER_01So I let's keep this team down and out of the playoffs.
SPEAKER_02You know what? You know what I never do? I never put myself in another team's shoes. And I should because I was going through the Giants schedule, and just like we were talking about earlier, you know, after the first two games, I'm like, well, you're you you're home against Tennessee and Arizona, those are wins. And Tennessee and Arizona fans are going, ah, we're at the Giants, those are wins.
SPEAKER_01Probably.
SPEAKER_03I mean, they're thinking they're they're thinking winnable game.
SPEAKER_01So here's here's if we want to flip around, of course, what you know, after I obviously, you know, lock in on the Giants schedule, my usually I go then right to the rest of the NFC East, particularly Philly and Dallas. I'll always, you know, I look at their schedules next. And I'm looking at Philly's schedule right now, and this is grotesque right here. So, you know, they start the season, Washington at home, that's a win. Then they go to Tennessee, go to Chicago. Okay. Then if you want to count Jacksonville in fucking London, uh, you know, week five, they have because it let's it's not even it's not a true road game, right? So then they have it as verses, right? Because they can't just put uh you know the at symbol. If that was one of my pet peeves a couple years ago. One, two, three, four, five. Six of the next seven games are at home. Jesus.
SPEAKER_02How does that happen? How does that happen?
SPEAKER_01Now, one of the one of those is counting the the the the London game or wherever they're playing, but they look at those home games. I mean, you got Carolina in there. Now you got some, you know, you got the Giants, you got Dallas, you got Pittsburgh, who's gonna suck. Um, I don't know how they have that many. Uh and then they then they go on the road for two more at Dallas, at Arizona. Then they have again, they have another stretch of three straight road games again against indie, Seattle, Houston, and they finished the season at San Francisco at New York at the Giants. So they have a stretch in the middle of a season where they're playing like 40 home games at a fight at a I don't know how they got how that happened.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, I don't understand how these schedules get made because there's an anomaly at almost and everyone has a weird anomaly in every schedule that I looked at, whether it's consecutive games on the road or at home or an international game following a Monday night game or the Jets playing three teams from a NFC in a row to start the season. Like there's just weird things with everybody. So don't tell me it's a perfect schedule because it's not, because this can't be that difficult. I mean, drop it into chat GPT, the thing will punch out the perfect uh schedule in about two minutes.
SPEAKER_02That's what AWS does, it's perfect schedule. That's so imperfect.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, their AWS is based on dollars. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_02Anything else from around the league before we get to uh pet peeves?
SPEAKER_03Um not as far as the schedule is concerned, no.
SPEAKER_02All right. Um anything from around the league that we haven't talked about?
SPEAKER_03Are we gonna talk about the Dart Dart situation?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, we can talk about that. And and the Dart announcing Trump at a rally and causing a firestorm with uh Abdul Carter, which they've since made up.
SPEAKER_03But Carter looks like a little wimp. He should not be on social media challenging that. So let me just first say that. This is not a political take at all. I don't care what you believe in, who you follow. I don't give a crap about that. My only issue, and I said this a couple weeks ago with Dart, just calm down, dude. You haven't made it yet. You're a four and eight quarterback. He's this he's announcing presidents, he's at the Kentucky Derby, he's you know, taking pictures with his Instagram girlfriend. This guy's got to calm it down. He's not uh a superstar just yet. That's my only issue with him. Like, you know, that's a hot button topic for whatever reason. Just politely say no. Let someone else do it. You don't need to be up there. So I don't know. I I don't care who he follows, no one should care. It's sports. It's just like this guy needs to just tone it down a little bit in my mind.
SPEAKER_02What I think a lot of people jumped at that, especially when when Carter put something on social media, and then Carter came back a couple days later and said, you know, uh Jackson Dart and I talked it out like men, and you know, we don't have any problems, so keep your narratives to yourself. Um you know, Dart showed up at a at an event not in a giants uniform, so he's not representing the Giants. I understand what he's doing, but but Novak, I mean, what you're saying, it it it there's gonna be a lot of of blowback in the future for things Dart does because I think Dart wants to stay in the limelight. He's gonna be our version of the dick, possibly.
SPEAKER_03You know, I've seen more in this offseason from Dart than Alan Mahomes and Burrow combined. I mean, yeah, really. I mean, he's everywhere. Now I know it's because we follow the New York sports teams, but he seems like he's this guy is everywhere. He's doing photo shoots and colognads, and you know, he's presidents and parties, and uh just enough. Like, dude, you haven't made it yet. You're not a superstar yet. You might be, and I think he will be, but he's not, he's four and eight. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01I wholeheartedly agree with that point, Novak. It's just that uh just for now, man, just stick to learning uh how to play quarterback in this game. Exactly. That's it. That's your job right now, man. You're you're going into your second year. Um as far as the off the and like you said I don't care what Pete these guys do in their personal lives I I don't care about that part I really don't I I I really only care what happens on the field um so a lot of people like to make a big deal of this kind of stuff but dude just um yeah man you're you're not you're you're not a stud you're not a super stud star right now in in this in New York or in this league so um just stick to football right now and and just keep your head down and do that that's it that's all I think you just put a and I also think you kind of put a target on your back you're wearing these crazy clothes with this girlfriend and you're taking pictures and you're at parties and the Kentucky Derby looks like a pimp like like just why you don't need to do it like do your live your life and focus on football.
SPEAKER_02You're 24 years old you're gonna make millions you're gonna be a great player we all know it just focus on that stay away from this crap yeah he starts banging someone's hot mom like uh look I tell with it with Zach Wilson it's it's no different except Zach Wilson sucked but like you you're not gonna see like Mendoza doing any of this stuff of course not he's like a choir boy so and that and that's what I would prefer candidly yeah yeah hey and and I'll tell you what what what bothers me a little bit this week is that you know I've seen a ton of stuff about Darr and in sort of like the commentary on that and yet Josh Jacobs was arrested the running back for the for the for the the Green Bay Packers was arrested for um a series of what they said is is sexual battery against a girl for a domestic violence and and you're not hearing hardly anything about that so so the way our country is right now I mean we're so focused on politics that we're we're hypersensitive to what Dart's doing uh among the other stuff that he's doing um where you actually have a guy like josh jacobs in the news and no one's really brought that up or Rasheed Rice didn't he get arrested again yes he did he'll be out there playing for the Chiefs yeah the Chief the Chiefs have no no morality clause in their contracts none they are just just yeah I can't take it I've been following too much Knicks basketball the last month to be even up on these stories I gotta be honest. Yeah so so I'll I'll I'll start with pet peeves uh cardone because that sort of doves tell dovetails into what I had and that's you know what I fear about the NFL and you know we we've ranted about this with them you know moving back like where the where the tackles are moving early and they don't call it and you know things that they just if you remember that play a few years ago where Kadarius Toney jumped early but it it negated a long catch by by by Kelsey and the Chiefs and like well why'd you have to call and move in early you know this whole thought about relaxing the rules well that's what the NBA has done over the years. They've relaxed the you the rules so much that now you know guys guys signature moves are are violations and they let them have it. You know like they they they will bounce the ball over someone's head take four steps go to the basket and everyone cheers and says oh this is a great play you know you got SGA from from uh Oklahoma City falling down every time he takes a shot and yet instead of getting punished he gets rewarded by a whistle and so I'm worried both about the relaxing of the rules and the fact that we take flopping and and don't crack down on flopping and and flopping now becomes a part of the game which it has for the NBA and to me you know it's it's very exciting that the Knicks are in the finals. It's very hard for me to watch NBA games because I I think the style of play is so bad in terms of flopping you know just over the top exaggeration. LeBron's been doing it for years and and and instead of punishing these guys for doing it they're getting rewarded. And I'm what I'm fearful about is that this is going to translate to the NFL so you're gonna see more receivers flop as they're going downfield. And of course it's a 50 yard penalty rather than just a 15 yard penalty. You're gonna see offensive linemen get that extra step or two and and no one's gonna ever say a word about it five years down the road because it'll just be accepted that that that this is what happens. So it's the whole you you you take an inch and you end up getting a mile down the road that that that bothers me with this. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Well yeah and that to to this point Scott it you know just like the NFL they want offense they want scoring they want touchdowns like in the NBA they just want points and they want you know you guys we we grew up in the the Ewing era the 80s 90s member I it's amazing I was watching a few clips of the the um like the 99 finals you don't have to go back that far you know you you know but I guess that was 27 years ago whatever but um in and I remember like they they they showed I was watching a clip of the uh game five when you know the Spurs won that series in in five the final score was 78 to 77 remember those games yeah remember those games like where you were dying for points and and the amount of the the physicality these like so I it's yeah I don't know I I I worry about that too Scott and um you know will will the NFL kind of take on more of the um are we gonna see more PIs and more you know calls favoring the offense and probably right I mean we it it's not gonna go back the other way I don't think um I had to fix my something on my computer there for a second um I I don't think it it's all these leagues want to see they think the fans and probably most of them right yeah maybe I don't I don't I don't know if they're the real hardcore fans like us but they prefer high scoring games shootouts you name it right and the NBA I'll be honest if like if the Knicks are not there I'm like I'm not watching a sniff of the NBA.
SPEAKER_03I'm not um I I don't want to say I'm bandwagoning with the Knicks because I've you know I had a love affair with them too my whole life you know trying to get a NBA championship with the New York Knicks but um but the product is bad it's just a it's a bad product it's a hard watch it's a hard it's I used to you know really love the NBA years and years ago and really didn't watch as much college basketball and then that flipped where I watched a ton of college basketball versus the NBA and now college basketball's taken on that same kind of uh agenda where uh just the foul calling you know just just the way games are called and the whistles it's a little bit unbearable it really it is um and we're gonna be seeing it next week so the first time SGA falls to the floor you know phantomly with no uh I'm gonna be punching a hole in my wall you know trying to trying to deal with this guy for for seven games who knows and it's gonna happen I mean that that's just the reality of it I mean um yeah the the NBA is tough to watch unless you're a fan of the team like you I agree with you cardone like I tried watching Oklahoma City San Antonio and I watched it because I want to kind of see who the Knicks are going to play. Same but it's a it's a tough watch and all of a lot of the the ones are now the NFL I think is is heading in that direction. You're right Scott we're seeing it with the quarterbacks mahomes was doing it and we've seen that a million times and I think you're right we're gonna see more of this um because you know they're also cracking down on being too like rough so in order to get the call because you're not getting the hard hits like you used to you're gonna you have to act a little bit to get them um so yeah I think sadly we're gonna see it translate to the N NFL the IFL too.
SPEAKER_02You know but when I when I look at that though from a fan's point of view like what fan is ever saying oh you know guys I love flopping let's have more flopping no one it's awesome no one is and and so when when flopping happens and it gets rewarded who benefits from that no one does no you know a referee should be able to do their job and be able to tell who's faking from who isn't and and if I if I'm a referee and I see someone faking I'm gonna be hard as hell on that guy rather than than be lenient. And yet every time these fuckers get the whistle and you know what sport you never see that in hockey.
SPEAKER_03And that's the toughest sport there is you don't see flopping in hockey and they're pounding each other on and every second.
SPEAKER_01No in fact you get you get an unsportsman like uh don't you get you you can get penalties penalized for flopping in in the NH simulation yeah yeah whatever it's called what's the what's the penalty called exactly I think it's simulation isn't it is that what it is I mean it's rarely called very rarely called it happens it's there it's in it's in the it's in the game. Unlike soccer when apparently everyone dies on every position.
SPEAKER_02That's God almighty what a stupid sport I hate that sport and we're about ready to get you know that shoved down our throats with with the amount of I'm not going to be into that World Cup stuff.
SPEAKER_03I'm sorry it just is not for me. The finale's gonna be played in that death I just don't care I don't care. So uh Novak pet peeve yeah so this is our after this pod is our longest stretch of the year where we're not on a pod. So I thought about pet peeve my pet peeve and like I don't want to give one that is only going to bother me for a week I've got to get it off my chest now because it's gonna be a long stretch and it bothers me almost daily and so my pet peeve is you know we see we get video and photographs of Ray Bull and Roussini from like seven years ago and there's paparazzi everywhere with every celebrity how and I've said it before how are we not getting a picture of the dick's wife come on where I have had where is Mrs. Dick where is Mrs. Dick like how is this still a thing that someone has not just come out and said the guy's lying he's lying yeah yeah come on we all know it it's very clear. Does Aaron Rogers wear a ring? Does he have one he does he wears one of those fake like plastic rubber ones like Costanza wore when he was trying to pretend to be a married guy to pick up chicks at a cocktail party?
SPEAKER_01Yeah and he threw he threw away remember Costanza threw away an apartment he threw away uh floor tickets to Knicks games because he was you know too bad you're married I would have given you floor tickets and everything else guy threw away guilt-free sex and season tickets to the Knicks exactly yeah but but honestly like and it really just it bothers me so much because in this day and age with phones and videos and paparazzi and you you're not telling me that there is not a cameraman out there that hasn't been offered hundreds of thousands of dollars for one picture of this woman and yet we don't have it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah tell me I explain to me how we don't is she like chained in a basement she's gotta leave the house in a dark retreat you think everyone's like well he's a really nice guy he does he he's he wants to be very private.
SPEAKER_02These people don't care no so uh next week there is a possibility that a couple of us will be on a podcast run by a Pittsburgh Steeler fan called we'll I'll throw it out there so people can oh can I bring this up on that bod? I I I was just gonna say this would be a great thing to bring up there so it's it's called the the the bird cave so B-U-R-G-H cave um and and I think it's it's it's fairly appropriate to ask what Steeler fans think about you know Rogers and his the dick's antics. You had to deal with that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah well look and for first time listeners just so we're all clear that we call Aaron Rodgers the dick. We're not being you know graphic or anything else. That's just what we call him and that's coined by you guys uh years ago. So for first time listeners I think it was coined by Cardone. It was that is uh the nickname of this guy and there's not a better nickname out there and sadly it's not taken on did he now he did announce that this is his final year or is that maybe you make an outdoor too he held he held yet another team hostage for the fifth year in a row who gets away with this other than the dick nobody no one no one can hold a team hostage like this guy. It's it's unbelievable that this guy continues to get away with it. And you know and I hate him I do because he ruined we're already a ruined organization as it is and he made it worse and so I hope he fails miserably this next year and I think he will actually Steelers go under 500 possibly for the first time in ages. I don't know what their overunder is but whatever it is I'm betting the under.
SPEAKER_01I'm almost going to guarantee that if I have to guarantee something I say the Steelers and because again no Tomlin for the first time in what 21 years was he there? Like this is the year like Pittsburgh will not be over 500 this is the year. And it's gonna be the first year the Tomlin's not there.
SPEAKER_02They're a six-win team at best I think I agree I looked at something the other day about coaching changes and think about this Cincinnati's coach who was rumored that he was going to get fired he's the only one staying in that division.
SPEAKER_01Wow the other three are gone yeah so Stefansky's gone Tomlin's gone Harbaugh's gone oh yeah interesting yeah pretty wild that Harbaugh and uh Tomlin are gone in the same year right yeah long as tenured coaches you know they're both both gone the same year.
SPEAKER_02And the craziest thing was we were talking about getting Tomlin if the Steelers fired him and then Harbaugh drops on our laps because of the the Ravens fired him first.
SPEAKER_01That's incredible.
SPEAKER_02Yeah and it all came down to that missed field goal you realize that the if they had flipped flipped positions the Giants might have Tomlin as their coach right now and Harbaugh would be well didn't win.
SPEAKER_01Remember we saw that that gif or whatever with the the the field goal posts and then like it was like Harbaugh fired no Harbaugh fired Tomlin fired with the uprights whether it was wide right or left and then whoever came up with that one has a genius that is pretty one so true though I love stuff like that.
SPEAKER_03That is really smart. And that that kick changed your organization.
SPEAKER_01It did a missed field goal by the Baltimore Ravens. The Giants fortunes it's incredible you never know what's good what's gonna what make or break your your franchise yeah Cardone Pet Peeves I'm gonna stick with um yeah I wasn't really digging around for one I was yeah I'm gonna stay with the NFL's um schedule announcement theme and and what the production that this has turned into and and a simple peeve is it pisses me off when they they tell me what the must-watch games are you know what I mean must-see must-watch games like no like the must-watch games are are the like giants games you know what I mean I like fucking Chiefs clippers are not it's not a must watch for me they do this must-watch stuff and then like okay you know here's their list you know someone decides whether it's the NFL network any one of these you know networks they go through the list and it'll be like Philly at Dallas on Thanksgiving day that's a must-watch like we're watching that anyway people it's Thanksgiving what do you think I'm doing it just pisses me off it's it's just a simple pet peeve but like the must-watch stuff they put the most obvious games out there it'll be like week one you know this uh the the the the kick off the season you know Seattle that you know they're playing what the uh the Rams or whatever or no the Rams you know it or it's the Thanksgiving games and then it'll be like oh Chiefs on Christmas day playing somebody like those are not must-watch games that's just NFL scheduling games on major holidays that we're gonna we always watch yes it's not must watch they they often said that about like the Bills home open or new stadium like I don't care they have a new stadium doesn't matter doesn't matter to me at all like it's not a must-watch at all what are you talking like like no they would never say jets Tennessee but on our podcast yeah jets Tennessee that's a must effect that's a must-watch probably you want our opinion jets at Tennessee Molly's are we really are gonna light that place up at one o'clock on on Sunday how am I gonna be able to function for my giants at at at night that time Scott we have to really uh I don't know we got to really like somehow pace ourselves that day unless I unless I bring a cot you know to to Molly's air I don't know I'm thinking that might be a a day off the next day yeah oh it might be I mean if you that all day and then the Giants at night yeah that's that's a rough day there's something there to that let me tell you yeah that's gonna be a rough that's gonna be a rough 24 hours right there.
SPEAKER_02Guys the thing about the schedule release too why does it it come out on a Thursday but we know the majority of the games by Tuesday like this whole thing about these continual leaks it's it's really just if you're gonna do it make it a spectacle and just announce a schedule on a three hour show why why release it throughout the week here are the primetime games here are the international games oh by the way here's the rest of the schedule and by the time they give you the rest of the schedule we could go to our the websites of of all of our teams that that have like fan groups and they've already told you what the schedule is already out there.
SPEAKER_03Yeah we knew our schedule before they announced it yeah definitely well and you know I was I I kind of wanted Mike on tonight for this one thing because we're playing in Australia and it's on September 11th which is the 25 year anniversary which I think is wrong that we're and it's the best game of the week which uh would really is one of them Rams 49ers and you know the shrimp on the Barbie comments that we're gonna be getting through like are the puns the Australia puns and kick them like a kangaroo I there's gonna be all kinds of crocodile dundee whatever there's gonna be so many stupid puns in that game and and Mike is just going to be annoyed as can be watching that game because he hates the puns more than anybody this is a knife exactly Australia it's the other side of the world and we're happy we have a game there. Okay Mexico fine England okay I get it Canada close by Australia come on by the way the the stadium is the Melbourne Cricket Ground.
SPEAKER_01That's the name of the stadium where they're playing I mean what what is that field six and seven in Lincroft New Jersey over remember old remember that Novak was old hidden in the back yeah yeah field six for some reason in in our link the the Lincroft Little League where Novak and I grew up they they you had a whole like uh little league park and then for some reason it was like it was fields and for some reason we didn't have a field one it was field two three four through seven where field one we don't know what field one was never didn't exist and six and seven was like a three mile jaunt down the road there was like a hidden like little path that goes in the back of a neighborhood yeah very strange I don't know I don't I don't get this why can't you do it in a in a soccer stadium you do it in a cricket like crickets are like the it's like it's a big circle they don't have a bunch of stands or like do they like it it doesn't go the NFL doesn't care about anything but the dollar yeah it's I mean come on and it's probably not the greatest turf and these guys are gonna get hurt you know it's gonna happen and they're gonna they gotta travel 24 hours to play a football game on a flight knock it off like enough with this international I mean just play in the moon already I I'm tired of this just intergalactical game and and you guys know what's coming and it's gonna be within the next 10 years.
SPEAKER_03You know we're gonna have yes thank you yeah it's it's happening it's gonna be in London or some shit which is going to happen. There's gonna be a Super Bowl in in s in freaking uh like Ethiopia or something yeah yeah 100% it's gonna happen and that will be the ultimate kick in the nuts if they do that. Yep.
SPEAKER_01And that'll be the year that'll be the year the Jets are there Novak of course it will be oh absolutely it'll be that's what you'll that's what you'll get you'll rain your whole life for a jet appearance in the Super Bowl and it'll be when it's in uh Moscow yeah exactly yeah yep Kazakhstan or something like that you're so right I'm just giving geography lessons here where was it bouljois where where are they where we have our fan from oh uh Boharnois Boharwa so uh guys it was an end of an era this week by the way uh Schlitz beer is no longer and and and and when I you know when I was growing up there were two beers that were particularly bad to me Schlitz and Schaefer oh the Schaefer yeah Schaefer was rough Schaefer tasted like like curfew for some reason to me it was it was one of the worst beers I've ever had Schaefer when I was a freshman in college they still had the pull tabs remember the pull tabs they would just rip all the way off and nine times out of ten it would would you wouldn't get it rip it off right and you'd be stuck like taking a knife to it trying to open it then you had to delicately drink from it because otherwise your wrist cuts to his lip yeah well wasn't Schlitz motto the beer to have when you're having more than one yeah no that was uh Schaefer's it was Schaefer yeah Schaefer is the one beer to have when you're having more than one and then of course the the the advertising agency and the all the they had to change because that was like well we can't that per that's promoting excessive drinking so they changed the jingle to Schaefer is the one beer to have when it's time to have some fun that's right they did and you would forget they changed it from when it's when you're having more than one to when it's time to have some fun. So that's again the pussyfication started with Schaefer really I think Princification of America started with Schaefer. Now Novak being a Met fan you must remember Schaefer was like the official beer who was like the Mets remember absolutely yeah it was in the outfield they had the big uh big logo out there that's right yep absolutely yeah but that meant that would that tracks I think they might have also had a uh was it Rheingold maybe that had a uh at at the old Shea Stadium they had one of those uh like uh was it Meister Brown maybe maybe it was my maybe it was Meister Brown Brown. They had but I know what you're talking about.
SPEAKER_03There was an odd one. Um Ballantine, maybe with the penthouse.
SPEAKER_01Something like the logo. Yes, the pencil one. Yes, I do. Whatever that was. Oh, bat.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that was Ballantine. Was it Ballantine?
SPEAKER_01I think it was Valentine. I think it was Palantine. And Yankee Stadium always had the had the Getty. Remember the remember the Getty gasoline? Yeah. Doo do. Doo do do do do do do. Doo do that was the jingle of W P-I-X.
SPEAKER_03I went to a Yankee game and I got a hard hat. Remember when they did the helmets? And I had a big Getty thing on the side. And I was like, yes. Now this thing sucks. And I hate the Yankees anyway, but I got a big Getty thing on my hard helmet.
SPEAKER_02Who was the sports store that always uh sponsored Yankees? Models. Oh Models. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01And PC Richard was another one. Yes.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I always hated those uh game day giveaways because they always had again, yeah, it was always like the well there was a what was the milk brand? It was always a milk brand like Dell Delwood or some shit like that.
SPEAKER_02Rain jacket Scott, yes. And and I buttoned it up and I went to unbutton it and they all like ripped apart.
SPEAKER_01Always ripped apart. But yeah. But if you got a hat or like a helmet, yeah, it was always it had the big Getty logo or some shit on there, and you had to pay it there.
SPEAKER_02You know what I'm talking about though, right?
SPEAKER_01It was always a dairy one. It was like Dellwood or Dell Farms or something like that. I don't know why I'm saying Dell, but it was had something to do with that.
SPEAKER_02Yankees always had they went more mainstream. They were like, hey Greg Nettles, this bud's for you.
SPEAKER_03The Yankees actually had really good promotional giveaway nights. They much better than the Mets everywhere at that time. Well, the Nets, the Mets, of course, uh they had their um, I was this was gonna be my pet peeve. They had their uh lineup announced by a guy from SpongeBob SquarePants last night. So that no track Patrick was a Patrick? I I think so. I don't know that show, but but I think it was.
SPEAKER_02Was he a starfish?
SPEAKER_03I don't remember, but it they just talked about it on the radio. I was like, are you kidding me? And last year they did Hawk Tua. So I mean Oh Jesus Christ. Yeah, where's she today?
SPEAKER_01Back to where she belongs, nowhere.
SPEAKER_02I don't call it 15 minutes for anything.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So we do have some questions this week. So uh Peacock uh asks, and and and Cardone touched upon this. What do we think about the NFL having games every day of the week but Tuesday? And and and I hate it. I mean guys, uh we're traditionalists, and I know Mike is in the same boat. We want Sunday one o'clock, and that's why Novak loves the jet schedule, and he should Sunday one o'clock football. He's got better. Yep. He's done, he's done after one o'clock, he's done at four. He can do whatever he wants before Sunday one and four.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Uh I think it's a joke. Um the NFL seems to be obviously pushing this uh narrative.
SPEAKER_02How long do you think before we get a game on Tuesday?
SPEAKER_01Oh, it's coming.
SPEAKER_03Why not? Well, I mean, Christmas Day is gonna be on Tuesday at some point. Exactly. True. I mean, it's gonna happen. It's just a matter of time.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. It's coming. And I guess it's uh just like Thanksgiving with the Lions and Cowboys. I guess is it the Chiefs now? Let's be honest. It's probably the Chiefs now, Christmas Day, right? Aren't they the team that's been playing there? Yeah.
SPEAKER_03We'll have to do that.
SPEAKER_01They're probably it's probably gonna be the Chiefs every year now on Christmas.
SPEAKER_03No, it's brutal. It it's too much, and they're it's oversaturation, and that's why you know this is not um why it's only getting worse. And you know, diff 3,000 different streaming games and everything else. It is oh, so here are the three games on Christmas now. Uh three Packers Bears on Netflix, Bills, Broncos on Netflix, and Rams, Seahawks on Fox. Three great games that I'm not gonna watch.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I guess uh I thought the Chiefs were on because they're not on Christmas Day this year. So okay.
SPEAKER_02Are they the Black Friday team?
SPEAKER_01Maybe, but Black Friday, good God. Here, here's something crazy. Like, one of my favorite, if not my favorite, all right. Thanksgiving day and night is one of my favorite days of the year, and for obvious reasons, you know. Uh they also uh uh Christmas Eve night is like my favorite night of the year, you know, just for because it's Christmas Eve. Family, friends, you know, so imagine like Texans Eagles at Philly, so now you're talking about East Coast, they have an 8.15 game, 8.15 p.m. on December 24th. So now the NFL saying we don't fucking care about Christmas Eve night now anymore. That's when most like that's when the country just shuts down. Christmas Eve night is like it's nothing sacred. Yes, and now that the Eagles have a home game on Christmas Eve night at 8 15. I don't know. I I would not be crazy. Me, again, I'm a crusty old guy. I would not be happy with that. Going if I'm a season ticket holder, I would not want to be dragging my ass to because you have no it's you're getting home at two in the morning, whatever.
SPEAKER_03Now maybe I sound like an old, you know, now come on, you're not because what if what if you've got a of a a five-year-old and a seven-year-old? Yeah, you're gonna go to the watch the Eagle game on Christmas Eve? What kind of asshole are you? I don't know. Yeah, I guess they that's smart they did it for Eagle fans because they're the only ones that would do it, but I mean that that would make sense. By the way, it's uh Black Friday is Broncos Steelers, so they can do all the Broncos painted black commercials. Oh my god, right.
SPEAKER_02So uh Peacock also asks more states. Dallas, three games in 11 days twice this year. Agree that they always get screwed. I'm gonna disagree that they always get screwed because uh the Cowboys usually have a favorable schedule, but welcome to what the Giants have dealt with over the years. Three game three games in 11 days twice sounds like a a Giants uh screw job like we're we're used to. I hate it. I and I hate this because we we were talking about AWS earlier and the perfect schedule and and blah blah blah. I hate that these anomalies exist and they do for every team. Like we talk about with the Giants, we've we've ranted about it before. Peacock's seeing it with the Cowboys.
SPEAKER_01Well, I you know I'm seeing what he's talking about there. So if he's talking about weeks 10, 11, and 12, right? They play on but those are just regular, you know, that's Sunday, Sunday, and then Thursday. So that's they do that every Thanksgiving, you know, because they play every year. And all three of those games, guess where? Every one of them are at home. So you have yes, you're playing that many.
SPEAKER_02He did say three games in 11 days twice. So okay, I'm looking to see where the other one is. That happens twice.
SPEAKER_01That's that seems wrong. That is pretty crazy.
SPEAKER_02Is it in the beginning of the season?
SPEAKER_01It is. It's actually so they they do the same thing. So they play Sunday, Sunday, then Thursday night against you know, so yes, weeks three, four, and five. They have Baltimore at home at Houston, and then uh they have a Thursday night game versus Tampa. So two of the three are at home, and the other road game is only uh now, you know, uh you know, right in uh in Houston, you know, Houston. Three tough teams, too. Yeah. But um, that is pretty tough, but that's what we're talking about with the NFL. This is because there's games, you know, once they introduce the Thursday night game years ago years ago, every single week, um, this is gonna happen. You know, this you're gonna have you it's just gonna happen where teams are playing these bunched up schedules. I mean, if you want to say we're America's team, suck it up.
SPEAKER_03Like sorry. Right. I'm not gonna feel sorry for the Cowboys. That's what you're doing. No, I mean, you know, and they're they get every call, so you know, sorry, Peacock, but I mean, you're America's team. Everyone, every cowboy fan likes to talk about that. Guess what? You're gonna get these types of prime time, weird Thursday night Thanksgiving. That's just comes with the territory. You're not you're not a sucky franchise like I deal with.
SPEAKER_01One other one other note here. I'm looking at the cowboy schedule here. Weeks five, six, and seven, they play three consecutive weeks in prime time. Can we stop and knock that nonsense off too? I agree with that. That's too much. I mean, now we have it's three weeks in a row uh and in prime time with the same team.
SPEAKER_02Why to not space it out? Did did Dallas miss the playoffs last year?
SPEAKER_03Yes, they stunned.
SPEAKER_02So why are we giving them this many prime? Because they're the cowboys. That's what I mean.
SPEAKER_03That's exactly comes to the territory.
SPEAKER_01Why do the Giants get as many primetime games as they always did? Giants are on prime time every year, like four times. Like they still they stink.
SPEAKER_03I had when when we had Rogers, we had eight primetime games that year. Eight. Yeah. Jets. And everyone hates the Jets. They're stupid and boring. Why would you want to watch them?
SPEAKER_02So Peacock's last question uh brings up a good point that we're talking about. This is the least number of Sunday games ever. 214. Is that a problem? And it this ties back to his first question. I I think it is because Sunday should be the day for football. We talk about it all the time. We don't want to see all these games on Thursdays, on Fridays, on Saturdays. Definitely not Fridays. Saturday, Saturday's the last two weeks of the year. I I still hate that, although you see that and you see that during the playoffs too. Football should be on Sundays. I I would be happy if they went back to Sundays and Sunday night, that's it. Maybe a Monday night. Monday night, I'm fine.
SPEAKER_03Monday night, fine. Yeah, I mean that's an institution.
SPEAKER_02But I don't think Monday night is what Monday night was. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03But but it's not because it's not because there are games every other night of the week. It's not special anymore. Because you have them on Thursday night and Friday and Wednesday and Saturday. So it's not it's not a big deal anymore. I also don't think I don't I hate the international nine o'clock game. I hate it. Every year I hate those games. It should be one, four, Sunday night, Monday night.
SPEAKER_02You know many times I've woken up and gone, oh shit, there's a game on. Of course. And it's like in the middle of the second quarter, but of course it's like Jacksonville versus Indianapolis or something.
SPEAKER_03You know, Atlanta, Minnesota. Like I give two craps about that game.
SPEAKER_01I love how it's reversed for like, like I I always have some interest in NFC games, but Novak being the AFC guy like that. That's true. Like if I if it's if it's London and it's freaking Bengals versus Dolphins, I'm like, God, who cares? Yeah, I know. That's very true because I don't care about the NFC. Yeah, it's funny, right?
SPEAKER_02Like I said, I said I said the indie Jaguars. It's like two AFCTs. Um my friend Mike asks, looking at each of our schedules, which is the biggest upset that you see this year. Um the Giants, I I see week 13 at home against San Francisco being a possible upset. That's the one I've yeah, I've targeted. I mean, not non-divisional games he he he's mentioned. So, you know, if you take the divisional games out of play, which I I do think we're gonna beat Philly one of the games, but San Fran.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Non-divisional, I mean, um, is it is it too uh much of a stretch? I maybe like maybe the Giants somehow go into Houston and get that win. Um I know it's a great defense, you know, if if if they play like they did last year, but uh if they can if if CJ Stroud plays the way he uh is capable of playing and the Giants defense is as good as advertised, and we can just get after that guy, yeah. Maybe the Giants go into Houston and somehow steal one there.
SPEAKER_02I I thought about that game too.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah. Um so if I had to pick one, I'd you know, I'd not gonna give you Seattle. Uh not gonna I I'd I'd probably go uh yeah, I'm looking at uh Houston was one that that kind of popped out for me.
SPEAKER_03For me, I I don't think I'm gonna say Jets Chiefs. Um I don't think the Chiefs are gonna be as good as we think, at least I hope not. Um I could see the Jets shocking the world and going in there, picking them off in the middle of the season. The Chiefs are probably thinking it's a a waste game. Uh they have a couple of tough games around it that's uh they'll look past the Jets. I could see that one. Not saying it's going to happen. If I had if I had to pick one, I'm going there.
SPEAKER_02It is tough, though, to win in Kansas City. When I was looking at your schedule, I was thinking that you might be able to win at home against Denver. I thought after the bye.
SPEAKER_03The other the only other one I thought is I could see the Jets beating the Patriots at home. That's the only other one. But you you said not division. Non-division, yeah. Yeah, but if I was going in the division, I would say Patriots.
SPEAKER_02Uh Mike also asks our biggest chance to lose a game that we might be favored in that that isn't divisional. And when I look at the the Giants schedule, the one that stands out to me um might be the Cleveland game, week 15. And only because I don't know what Cleveland holds. Like I don't think they're losing against Tennessee or Arizona. I don't think they're losing against New Orleans at home. Um so for me, I the I don't know how many games we're gonna be favored in. So uh many. You know, that whittles it down there. So I I I I'm thinking maybe Cleveland is the one that stands out.
SPEAKER_01For me, yeah, it's kind of hard. Um looking earlier in the year and then the Giants, I mean the Giants are not gonna be favored in many games. Um I mean, I could see them uh Cleveland's not bad. I mean, maybe uh I mean why not? I could see them losing, and I don't know that they would be favored, probably not. I mean, not after last year's uh record, but I don't think I want to pick one of the early games. Like I could see them losing to Jacksonville at home. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I was gonna pick Jacksonville, but I figured the Giants aren't gonna be favored.
SPEAKER_01So you know, so yeah, if you if you're if you're going by true upset where Jack like Jacksonville, but you know, I could, I could, I could see them losing to Jacksonville at home. Like it just um that's one of those games that just you can almost see it uh just you know playing out. Um it's hard because that's week 11. You don't know what those what you know it's so deep into the season, but that would be uh if I'm just kind of taking a flyer, you know, Jacksonville at home, why not?
SPEAKER_03This is very easy for me. Very easy question. You absolutely can see the Jets losing to the guy they really wanted at the number one pick and losing to the Raiders at home and watching Mendoza light them up like a Christmas tree. Yeah. That's that's exact and I'll tell you right now, it's going to happen, just so that we're all clear. That will happen. Yeah, it's a good one.
SPEAKER_02If that does happen, you're gonna have problems with the uh your organization, I think.
SPEAKER_03No doubt. I think we're gonna have problems anyway, but but yeah.
SPEAKER_02Uh Mike also asks if there we're gonna see a high percentage of Giants fans at the home opener, or will there be a lot of Dallas fans uh given what trish traditionally happens? And I'll say this look, we got Harbaugh in, we got a home opener, uh Giants are zero zero. I think you're gonna see that place loud and packed with giant fans. It's it is a a night game on a Sunday night, which traditionally you do see some some Dallas fans in, but with the Harbaugh effect in in in place, I think people want to be there for the home opener for the for Harbaugh era.
SPEAKER_01Yes, I mean there's always cowboy fans. Um, even when I mean I I I grew up on season tickets, and even when the Giants were winning Super Bowls, Dallas would come in and there's freaking Dallas fans there. So that's that's something that is always gonna be there. Uh but I I agree with you, Scott, to a degree where I don't think there would be I don't think there's gonna be as many cowboy fans uh at this game as there would be in years past because of the anticipation and excitement for game one. So there's definitely gonna be, but I think I don't think we're you're gonna hear it's you know, uh on the on the TV, you're gonna hear it's gonna be Giants. Uh it's gonna be predominantly Giant fans. But yes, Dallas, they're always there. So there'll be some for sure, because it's Dallas, but I don't think it's gonna hopefully uh the Giants will give them no reason to freaking, you know, we we have to hear them at all.
SPEAKER_03The excitement for the Giants this year is gonna be off the charts, especially going into the start of the year, no doubt. I'm excited. I'm excited. You should be. You've got a quarterback, you've got a new coach, young players, you got a coffee boy making all the right moves, and you guys are in Gridfield.
SPEAKER_01And if I if it I'll say this because I think it does matter. Like if the Knicks win a championship in a couple weeks, like what that does for the other New York teams, because it's the same fan base as essentially, you know what I mean? Like that will resonate. It just will. Absolutely. It'll resonate at Yankees. Exactly. It'll just resonate with other New York teams. So there'll be like that game, I can even I can already see people wearing Knicks jerseys and stuff. Uh, you know, uh at you know, the Knicks will be there probably. They'll show a county like Brunson will be at the game. I'm serious. Yeah, like I could already see all of it. If the Knicks somehow manage to win this championship, they they will be in that stadium, and you're sure as shit ain't gonna lose. Maybe the 80s when when are the Giants doing the 86 celebration? This is 40 years since Super Bowl 21. Oh when are they doing the celebration? Is are they doing something that night? I don't know. I I've not heard that yet. So this is yes, I know so I know the Giants are doing something to celebrate. This is 40-year and 40th anniversary of Super Bowl XXI. So I don't know if they've got dude. I we were in high school when the Giants won in Super Bowl 21. I was a senior in high school. Um, if that's if they do something that night, uh, you can't lose, man. You can't the Knicks will be in the stadium, the Giants, the fucking Sims and Taylor and Carson and Norton, they're gonna be there. Like, you can't lose, man.
SPEAKER_02You know, I was thinking about that when I made that comment about all the Knicks, you know, the old Knicks sitting course courtside. It would be like having Yogi Berra sitting next to Don Mattingley, you know, running on the Yankees, because you have like the Walt Fraser's there with those guys. You know, Walt's got the the the hippest outfit out of everyone.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Because it's been 53 freaking years. Exactly. It'd be it's crazy. Dinosaurs, uh you know, trying to sit in sit in courtside or sit inside.
SPEAKER_02So their last championship was 72, right?
SPEAKER_0373.
SPEAKER_0273.
SPEAKER_03They won in 71 and 73. But there, you know, it's interesting that when you bring up the 86 Giants, they were saying that the Knicks run, that the only other dominant New York sports team run to a championship was the 86 Giants. They mirrored that. Because I don't remember it like you guys probably do, but they when they started saying those scores, like you like dusted off the Vikings, I think, in the first round or something. And the Niners like 49 to 3 or something. That was Jerry.
SPEAKER_02Jerry Rice had the ball go off his leg.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, like you didn't barely sweat out any playoff game then. They beat the Niners 49 to 3. Yeah, but yeah, but then you went on to you know destroy them.
SPEAKER_02And it's funny because I could recount that. They beat the Niners 49-3 in a very cold game in Giant Stadium. Jerry Rice early on caught a ball. Looked like he was going to break through and he hit his leg and fumbled. The next game was the the Redskins, they beat 17 to nothing. Nothing. I do remember that. It should have been 34 to nothing, but it was another brutally cold game. And then obviously they went to the uh and and beat the the Broncos.
SPEAKER_03Yep.
SPEAKER_02You guys got uh anything else tonight?
SPEAKER_03Go Knicks. Don't yeah, just just go Knicks. Go New York, New York. Let's go. Let's just make this thing happen. Like, can I please just get a championship? I just want one. So I will.
SPEAKER_02I will put some things on socials about um if we do do a podcast with the uh the Pittsburgh group. Um the other thing is we're probably not gonna be back until the uh start of train camp because uh we've now done the the draft review, we've done the uh the schedule recap, and and like Novak said, this is our longest break before we go to uh to uh training camp.
SPEAKER_01Preseason, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yep, and we'll be doing we'll put information out there about the live pod, which um there's already been discussion already. They're already asking me when do we want to do it, so we'll do that. And then we were also talking about bringing on you know potentially people for shorter you know spots to talk about their teams, and we'll see if we can get that going or you know, kick it up a little bit in the preseason.
SPEAKER_02We we play the Browns this year, we play a couple other teams that we know we have some fans of that we can uh bring out.
SPEAKER_03I got a Titans person that wants to. What they exist? Uh my daughter's boyfriend's apparently a big Titans fan, so he's like, I'll come on your pod and talk about the Titans. I'm like, we got the solid game, week one, man. You gotta learn this game.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Gotta learn the hard way. That's right.
SPEAKER_02Well, it might be one way to ruin a relationship.
SPEAKER_03That's fair. But yeah, we'll do what we'll shake it up this year. Do some different stuff. It'll be fun.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, we're looking forward to it. So uh we thank everyone for listening, especially our people in uh Ireland and Sweden. Um, but uh Inga Inga for Sweden. Um, but but keep keep uh keep on touch with us. We'll uh we'll keep you up to date on what's going on and uh and let you know.
SPEAKER_03Have a good one. Donakes.