Join us for an in-depth conversation with guest Casey Kehoe, as she peels back the layers of her journey through addiction, self work and CrossFit!
We shift gears to a more profound discussion centered around sobriety and the significant role of The Phoenix, an organization pivotal for individuals in recovery. Casey courageously shares her personal battle with addiction, painting an honest picture of her path to recovery within The Phoenix community. We underscore the importance of having a reliable toolbox of resources and the commitment to oneself as key factors in the journey towards sobriety. Listen in as Casey charts out her experience with the relentless cycle of addiction and the liberating sensation of breaking free from its clutches.
Finally, brace yourself as Casey tells us whether she’s team Backstreet or Nysnc
Join us for an in-depth conversation with guest Casey Kehoe, as she peels back the layers of her journey through addiction, self work and CrossFit!
We shift gears to a more profound discussion centered around sobriety and the significant role of The Phoenix, an organization pivotal for individuals in recovery. Casey courageously shares her personal battle with addiction, painting an honest picture of her path to recovery within The Phoenix community. We underscore the importance of having a reliable toolbox of resources and the commitment to oneself as key factors in the journey towards sobriety. Listen in as Casey charts out her experience with the relentless cycle of addiction and the liberating sensation of breaking free from its clutches.
Finally, brace yourself as Casey tells us whether she’s team Backstreet or Nysnc
What up dogs? Welcome back to another episode of the hungry doll barbell podcast, enjoyed by another awesome guest from the silver community, casey keyho. Hello, they get that right. Yeah, got it right. So, casey, how are you? We just threw down a workout in there, a nice little seven by one. Split your case. I have a question for you, right up the bat. Okay, if you could design your perfect crossfit workout, what would it be?
Speaker 2:a very long chipper watch.
Speaker 1:Very long chipper. What would it entail? What kind of movements?
Speaker 2:Um pretty much everything, All barbell movements all barbell and to start some gymnastics in there, but definitely a lot of barbell, thank you.
Speaker 1:That's what I'd be so like. 12 days of Christmas. Yeah like chipper style or like, we're like more rep style I should say yeah, that's fun, that's the opposite of exactly what my workout would be.
Speaker 1:I think that I might have done like what my go-to workout is. This week Monday we had D-send meters on the rower and then cleaning jerks at 155. So it's just a little bit heavier the regular 135, but not so happy that it's like you're getting. That's what I might like. That that would be like my go-to. Maybe I changed the road to a bike because I don't really love to row, but that would be one of mine.
Speaker 2:Well, you see me a lot of times on Sundays I go to open gym at our gym and I do a lot of really killer long workouts.
Speaker 1:I see that. Yeah, I mean I saw that you were working out before you came here today.
Speaker 2:It's a little bit, just a little bit of lift, and that's all you come to the Sunday liftated, then you go.
Speaker 1:Do you go back or do you come here?
Speaker 2:I've gone back once or twice, but I'm I'm learning to take a little bit of a step back and let my body recover a little bit more.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So what does an average workout week look like for you?
Speaker 2:um, definitely a Lot of lifting and I would do a lot After that all the time, but I definitely have cut back a little bit when doing wads every single day. Yeah, I feel like for me, I See my progress more so when I do focus on the programming that Justin from my gym, my coach Gives gives me. Yeah. However, I do sometimes go into weeks where I am pushing it every day and doing a lot of wads. So it just kind of varies.
Speaker 1:Are you a full-meal kind of person? I am. I for sure am you got the fear mission out of workouts. I had heard of that before, but I never applied it to like work it out. So so was that to me and I'm like bro, you have a fear mission. I get it sometimes too if it's a really fun workout.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I have a hard time implementing rest days, but I am really trying to do that now. I'm trying to do a yoga on Tuesday nights. And at least have that to just kind of fill up my time a little bit and give me something else to look forward to. Yeah, you know if I'm, if I'm not thrown down in the gym.
Speaker 1:So nice case. Where are you from?
Speaker 2:I'm originally from Southwest Philadelphia and now I live up in where he's silly.
Speaker 1:Oh nice. So where'd you go to high school like?
Speaker 2:yeah, I went to high school West Catholic in West Philly old 46 and chestnut.
Speaker 1:Shout out to that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was a good time back in the Early 2000s.
Speaker 1:So, man, I know that kind of vibe. So tell me about young Casey. Were you a sporty girl or your gothy girl? What were you?
Speaker 2:all of you both. Yeah so I, I'm one of two, my sister and I. We are 18 months apart older yeah. I am older. We have been in the same grade ever since. I'd say, you know, early grade school, because I stayed back a year or not In second grade, so everybody always thought we were twins, even though we're not but we are still very close to age.
Speaker 2:But yeah, we both were in all the sports. You know, basketball, soccer, softball and I actually really excelled at soccer. I didn't start playing until I got to high school. I was using that as training for basketball, but then that actually wound up really becoming my sport, which I do. So playing now. I play that on Sunday.
Speaker 1:That's what soccer, basketball, soccer, soccer, my sister was better.
Speaker 2:I always wanted to be good at basketball but it was just never. I never had that, you know extra bit that I needed. But then once I found soccer, that's kind of where I was like, alright, this is my sport.
Speaker 1:Did you grow up watching AI and that's what made you want to play so there you go, the world. During that time period, which were you competitive? Like in sports? Like did you like to go compete?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I was very competitive, very tenacious. I Actually had to wear knee pads in basketball because I was so aggressive, like going after the ball and throwing myself on the floor. Yeah, to get the ball and everything had a few concussions here and there. You know, in the soccer field they definitely excelled more. I'm a defender. I still play defense, stopper sweeper, so that's an ass that. He definitely helped me out in that area as well. Oh yeah, so yeah, I definitely have that aggressive athletic, you know drive random question.
Speaker 1:I use that people all the time. What do you think is the most difficult skill in all of sports? I'll give you my answer, so you have something to go off here. I think that the hardest thing to do like just pure skill wise not like you need a whole bunch of athleticism Do it the hardest thing to do is to either hit a major league fastball or hit a hole in one in golf. One of those two things Do you have any idea of like what you would say Be the hardest thing?
Speaker 2:I mean I'm gonna have to agree with you on the whole moment Go.
Speaker 1:It's they gotta be super, I mean.
Speaker 2:I got now like for working everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I get out there once a while and it is an an extremely fun and frustrating and difficult sport. But you know, if you, if you try and you Stick with it like you, can be good. But a home one would probably be. If I got a home one, I'm playing the lottery.
Speaker 1:It's like this is my day I finally found it out. It's not that, like the sport, of golf is too slow, but like me, trying to learn it is too slow.
Speaker 1:Yeah you know like my brain moves even though, like I'm a, I don't talk like a lot, like I'm not, that person's gonna be like talking your head off when you first meet me. Like my brain moves a lot, like my brain's moving around fast, so it's like it's a lot to go and learn this slow game and play that. But it I've. I've only been getting a talk top off, not real good, but no, I totally agree with you.
Speaker 2:You know I go out there it's it's for work, for business, so it is a long day. I mean it's it's not a day-a-day at the office, for sure. Yeah, but you get to get active and move around you know, not as quick as like CrossFit, but that's again sort of why. But I'm gonna go again to my routine as well, because it is slower.
Speaker 2:Yeah and I think that's just something important for myself. Personally, I'm trying to Trying to do a little bit more. It's just kind of slow down a little bit too so yeah it's important to kind of put these things in there.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah, you gotta have both praise and a little bit. That's out balance in the brain. So I think something that goes along with being competitive. Do you consider yourself, and have you always consider yourself, a confident person?
Speaker 2:I am. Yes, I would say I have always been fairly confident in certain areas of my life. I've definitely had times in my life where I wasn't as confident as, say, I am now myself for sure. But in general, yes, I think I've always, you know, led with my head held high and and felt good about you know myself for the most part. There's definitely been a lot, a lot of times there when I haven't but yeah, hell yeah, so do.
Speaker 1:Let's keep going into this. Did young Casey have any direction of what you want to do?
Speaker 2:Was there something that was like glare to you're like fuck yeah, I want to do this um, I Would say I always wanted to Be a division one basketball player when I was younger.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, and what was that? What was that movie that had the twin sisters to play basketball? We were younger. I can't remember what are my friends loves that movie to doubled, up to doubled something like that Double team. Disney, you were terrible.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's what I wanted to do. And then you know, I always thought I was gonna be a teacher or something.
Speaker 1:But you know, like life likes and things change, so do you like working with people and like talking to people?
Speaker 2:I do. I mean, I'm in sales now. Yeah, I am, I am a people person, you know I'm. I am definitely that person at the gym that always goes up to the new person and introduce myself and I Not somebody who's shy to like go places like by myself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like meeting people. Yeah, I mean it doesn't?
Speaker 2:it doesn't intimidate me.
Speaker 1:Do you like have any idea where you got that from? Because you grew up with a sister. Yeah, it's like you didn't have to go places by yourself.
Speaker 2:No, I mean, I think, um, I've just kind of always kind of been sort of the leader between our dynamic but and I've always been older than everybody.
Speaker 2:You know it growing up being the sort of held back and then sort of being a year older than everybody, just naturally yeah and Then, honestly, you know, with with the job that I have now, being networking in sales, like you know, you have to have tough skin, you have to be able to talk to people, so it's skill that I've definitely Mastered over the years of doing this job.
Speaker 1:So damn 12 years in sales. How did you what you get your first sales job? Was it right into sales or was there no?
Speaker 2:so I actually started this company Back in 2011 and I was actually running the scale where the trucks would come in and out of the yard. So I would talk to the drivers all the time and, like I spent two years three years into that, you know my boss was like we need somebody in sales. We can't do it anymore, so let's just train you to do that.
Speaker 1:Were you like a let's do it kind of person.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, absolutely no fear. No fear, there you go yeah you believe to yourself right away.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's the confidence coming through.
Speaker 2:That's it you know.
Speaker 1:So we're just talking about it a little bit like you walking in here. The reason that we know each other is through the Phoenix. Yeah, this organization listeners go back. There's been a couple of different volunteers through that. How long have you been working with them? How did you originally get in touch with them? If that's like aligning with your story, like keep that a little bit separate to talk about, like that organization.
Speaker 2:Okay, I go back and forth. Yeah, so I learned about the Phoenix I'm gonna say probably when I was in an IOP program for substance use. You know, I heard about it and I don't even I think I just like looked up a class that was in our area and I found the CrossFit T1 and I think I went there it definitely over about a year ago, actually maybe a little bit longer than a year ago for my first Phoenix class and it was CrossFit. So I was like, oh, that's perfect.
Speaker 1:I got it. I already know what.
Speaker 2:I'm doing. So that was my first like class and I kind of like had my shoes in the water a little bit here and there until you know, I'm gonna say sometime in December, when I finally decided to really get sober for good and sort of just kind of made a commitment to showing up, and that was a big part of accountability for me and for me to stay sober.
Speaker 2:So that's what I really enjoyed about it. And then from there, you know Chris and Kevin and Gavin, they all encouraged me to Volunteer and that can mean a number of different things and then eventually to go forward in getting my all won through them and how we can do with that yeah did you get the level I did?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's awesome. How many of this might be a little bit of an estimate, I don't know how much. You know how many like different Gyms and there's like other places they're involved with. It's like not just loosely a gym. How many different affiliates do they have, like the Philly area, like partners? I guess was the same the other, phoenix.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I know. So we have one, two, 3, 4, I think like 4 or 5, and soon to be possibly 6 with my gym. So I believe it's right around there.
Speaker 1:What exactly are they offering? What do they do? What does the Phoenix do?
Speaker 2:So the Phoenix offers all different types of events, not just CrossFit. They have rock climbing, nature walks, anything that you can really think of. Softball teams Softball teams yeah, we're doing a barbecue picnic coming up. I've seen people do yoga classes. I've seen people do bike rides, hikes, whatever it could be. And it's an app and you put your location and you can find all these events that are close to you and basically, with 48 hours of sobriety, you can show up and meet people and maybe find a new hobby, connect with people in the community, which I really like and it's just another tool in the toolbox to use, in my opinion, to stay sober.
Speaker 1:Right. So we're active community. Having the toolbox is really what it is, right. I don't think there's any one single thing that works for people. I should say really realistically, for me I know there's never been just one thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's not just about somebody who's staying sober. I think everybody has their own toolbox, and it's what kind of tools you got in there and how you utilize them that matters.
Speaker 1:Right, so we'll go back to your journey specifically in a second. Like start it off, but have you ever been around things like that before, like an organization or group of people that you felt like actually helped you accountable?
Speaker 2:So yeah, I have quite a history I went through when I was at the end of high school into college. I suffered with a producer of beer eating disorder so I was away with treatment with that. So I am familiar with group activities, with people and the sense of community and support. So I definitely, like I definitely am well versed in that. I think CrossFit's also a great type of community that everybody can get something out of. So just being surrounded by people with positive attitudes just helps me in general.
Speaker 1:So I can almost trace my sobriety and active use journey back to one single day. I remember what was going on the school day, that happened beforehand and stuff like that. I don't want to say the ultimate factors, but some of the factors that led to be started. Where does your journey start?
Speaker 2:Like I said, I think my journey in general started back then when I had a new disorder and thankfully I'm out of the woods with that for real.
Speaker 1:Made it to another side.
Speaker 2:Yes, it made it to another addiction. So that was great. No, I think growing up you just kind of drink in party in early 20s and then it goes to the mid 20s. I definitely went through spouts of my life where I was drinking heavier than others. And then I'm going to say, probably right around 2018, 2019 is when I kind of kicked it up a notch and really relied on drinking to fulfill a lot of enjoyment in my life. And then when lockdown and COVID happened, that's when it really kind of got out of control for me, and I'd say back in 2021, I kind of started to get a little bit of health and decided I should try to get sober and I'm very stubborn. So it was not a quick turnaround for me. It took me about two years to actually commit to myself to actually do it for real. So then, finally, in December was my last drink and I haven't picked up since. That's awesome.
Speaker 1:Some of the things that you said right there I really love. I decided to commit to myself, like not to the plan for someone else, not to sobriety, because that's a separate thing. I'm committing to myself and this is what I want to do with things. Have you always found it hard to ask for help?
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Because you're that leader person, you're the person that's being in the front to go backwards. What really made you decide to ask for help? Was there already something that Glari just let out to you?
Speaker 2:I think that I was just tired of being on the hamster wheel and I was kind of going through having a month sober, then falling off the wheel, like a couple months, and then falling off the wheel or fall off the wagon, I guess I should say.
Speaker 2:And then I just really got tired of being sick and tired, and I know that sounds so cliche, but like I was just, I was just tired of failing over and over again and you know when I would have some time sober, I felt genuinely happy and I wanted to know what that felt like long term and for real. Like once I really got some time under my belt a little bit and I was just like you know what? I've been trying it this way for so long. Let me actually just give myself some real time to heal. And you know, put the sauce down and see, I can always go back to it, I can always go back to. Am I going to? No, but you know you gotta try, you gotta try something different, I would tell myself, and you know I'm glad I did so. Hell yeah.
Speaker 1:Something I tell people, even when like just working out or like exercise. You could apply this, I think, to everything in life. Hey, man, if you're doing something this kind of way, you've tried it for this way this long, and you have the results that you have now, and most people know in their heart like, hey, this is either A, what I want out of my life or B what I don't want, how about you try the different way if you want a different result? You know, it kind of just comes right down to that and, just like you said, hey, if I feel like I'm actually not happier sober, then I can go back to drinking. It's still gonna be there.
Speaker 2:You know, and I will say I'm lucky I have a very supportive family and a lot of supportive friends who have, you know, seen me through this and definitely have, you know, had my back and kind of opened my eyes to some things as well. So you know it's not like I, you know, did it all on my own. You know I have to give credit where credit's due there, so I am very lucky in that aspect as well, you know.
Speaker 1:That's great. Like now, as an adult, a little bit more mature, you can kind of like see all those things and appreciate them. When you were younger, you were first dealing with the eating disorder. How was it opening up to people then as a young kid?
Speaker 2:It was really difficult. I was probably oh geez, I was in my late teens, early 20s, so I really didn't have a chance to like kind of go from that adolescent to adult. Like I was kind of stuck in this whole eating disorder world and I didn't really see anything other than that. So, you know, coming out on the other side of it, I think I did kind of turn to alcohol a little bit more in my early 20s and never really kind of took a break from any kind of addiction. And in my opinion, Right, that's what happens.
Speaker 2:So you know, looking back at it now, like did I say, oh, I'm not doing anything wrong, like drinking is legal, and like I'm doing everything that everybody else is doing. But in all actuality, like you know, no, I didn't really take that step back and give myself time to heal in process and let my brain function a little bit, you know, without some kind of filter over it.
Speaker 1:Is that so funny, how we do that, like we're moving on from one thing and we start to move towards another one, yeah, and you tell yourself that like I'm mimicking what other people are doing Exactly. I'm mimicking a regular person.
Speaker 2:This is how regular people are.
Speaker 1:Our brains are so crazy like that they twist and turn, they start telling us lies. We have to like weed ourselves out of it. For me, it was always like all right now I have to figure out for myself what was a lie I told myself and what was the truth Correct, you know, just for me to be able to find like a non-stagnant period, you know. So how did you deal with that? Did you have like someone there to help you open up more? Did you feel like you had resources around you that helped?
Speaker 2:Oh for sure. Yeah, I mean, I've been through a lot of therapy in my life and I still go to therapy now weekly, so and, like I said, my family's always been very supportive. And you know, kind of like, when you go to AA or whatever rooms it is or whatever kind of community thing, you meet people and you connect with people, and I think that's so important is to connect with people who might understand what you're going through.
Speaker 2:I still have friends from back then that I still keep in touch with now and, you know, even people that I've met through my sobriety journey. I'm extremely grateful for I think just a sense of community is astounding and helps so much. But yeah, I mean, like I said, supportive family therapy, you know that kind of thing.
Speaker 1:When did you find CrossFit, a lot of this journey, like on a timeline, yeah, I mean I'd say probably.
Speaker 2:Geez, 2015 was probably my first CrossFit class. I don't know. I was like just kind of like down the shore with my sister randomly and we were just like fooling around, like flexing our muscles that we didn't have back then and she's like you should do CrossFit.
Speaker 2:I'm like what the heck is even CrossFit? I don't even know how she knew it before me. So then I did find a CrossFit gym I'm at the time I was limited in Langhorn, so I went there, I'd say for about a year, and then finally found Reed and that's where I am now.
Speaker 1:So Did the competitive juices kick in at the beginning?
Speaker 2:Oh no, no, I mean well, yeah, I mean definitely competitive and like fell in love with it and obsessed with it, like kind of everybody who just first joins CrossFit. But you know I was still kind of like drinking and partying and stuff and all that. So that definitely kind of muddied the waters a little bit. But I'd say within the last two or three years two years mostly is when I really started to take it a little bit more seriously and see, actually see that I can progress and I can be strong and, you know, appreciate it.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah, dude. I mean it fills up your cup right Like it's a for me. I know that like the addiction that I replaced like drugs and alcohol with was CrossFit in the beginning, obsessively, compulsively, like only eating chicken and rice, you know, working out two times a day. If you can get it to a good level, then it's like really amazing for you. You know how was the community like for you and CrossFit in the beginning, because drinking can be a big part of, like the aspect of it.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, I think at the time this was years ago I didn't feel like I had an issue with drinking. And you know, like I said, there was definitely times where my drinking was quote unquote, normal and fine. And then you know it would flare up and you know so it wasn't really that bad at first. But I'd say, you know, within the last four years or so, I was definitely always the drunkest one at any event or anything like that, and that's not fun, that's not always a good feeling, and you know you feel shameful and stuff after being talked about and all so that kind of sucked. And you know, if I would hear somebody say something, I'd be like, well, you know, screw them, like they don't know, like I'm fine. But then you know, eventually I came around and changed my habits, so, like I'm gonna be, on the other side of this now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm like, I don't feel like feeling like crap about myself anymore, you know, and I'm a good person and I want other people to see the person that I really am on the inside. And you know, like I said, that doesn't happen overnight. I mean, I had to do a lot of self-work to figure out that person.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But I'm glad that I did.
Speaker 1:What did that look like? The self-work?
Speaker 2:Well, obviously not actively using any substances is number one. And then talking about what's going on inside your mind and your heart, I think you know I do one-on-one therapy. I've got a lot better relationship with my spirituality and connecting with that and you know gratitude like another.
Speaker 2:again, that sounds really cliche, but sometimes a cliche thing, I think the truth, you know gratitude is so important for me because it's easy for me to think about a lot of things that I don't have and that I and that I want and kind of throw myself a pretty party. But as I, as I've worked on myself and my you know demons, I just sit back and I think to myself like how lucky I am to be in this spot and to be sober and to meet these people and to, you know, have the confidence to go up to people who don't know me and might feel nervous, walking into the gym and like say hello and put a smile on someone's face, and I'm just so happy for that and grateful for that.
Speaker 1:So that's awesome, dude. This next question I feel like you probably heard this before doing a lot of self-work, but it's a tough one though. Okay, what is your favorite or like two of your top favorite things about yourself? Anything that comes to mind, you're like wow, I like this about myself.
Speaker 2:Well, I will say I like that I I do. I like to make everybody feel included and welcome and I like that I'm not afraid to approach people and make them feel that way yeah you know, I think you never know what anybody's going through and I think, just being kind, I'm very kind I will say and I and I do like that about myself so, yeah, you can change someone's day around.
Speaker 2:I mean, I know that people have changed my day around completely just from me asking them like a random question they were nice about it and didn't blow me off or somebody just coming up and saying hello to me completely changed my mood and my whole perspective of the day around. So I tried to, I try to emulate that every day as best as I can. And, yeah, I love it when people approach me. I'd like to talk to people all the time and if there's times that I kind of want to be a little bit more introverted, I'll just say my house.
Speaker 1:Hey, nobody else there. Yeah, just hang out together, oh yeah. So, dude, you just went on a tear doing all these cross-excomps right like competitive just are now flowing here. How many have you done this year?
Speaker 2:all right, so okay, so we had May, june, july, august she literally would just count on her fingers out people. September, that's five, and then I have October, november, so by the end of June.
Speaker 1:One already this month.
Speaker 2:No, I wait, that's September. Yes, I did, I did. I'm the bell five paper all down the deliria. Yeah, that was fun. I did that with my sister, so that was fun, oh that was one, so how many is that now?
Speaker 1:six?
Speaker 2:so that's five. So then October will be six girls on girls.
Speaker 1:We six, yeah, six, oh no. October, october's for a asbury oh wait eggs and barbells oh yeah, november is girls and girls, so that'll be seven, seven, yeah, that's almost one every year, everyone yeah, you know addictive personality.
Speaker 2:I guess I think I've done six in a year too, so what made you do all these constant people just reach out to you to like yellow throw down well, yeah, I mean, like I said, like I love the people at the gym that I go to and you know, I actually kind of said that what you just said. Like you know, when you're like oh it's the fittest I ever was, or whatever, I'm like I don't know if I'll ever be as in shape as I am this year.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna go all for it.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, I just decided there was a couple, you know, had it, got a team together for you know, this one comp and then, you know, decided to do another one and you know a couple, like all female ones and summer playing was like a really big one for me I wanted to accomplish and I'm so excited that I did it this year, and I can't wait to do it next year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, you know, just seeing who's down, and I might have to nag people a little bit sometimes to do it, but most of the times.
Speaker 1:I get them on board when people see you doing a cop, then they're more likely to ask you to do another one too, because, like oh, yeah, yeah so what do you get like nervous before?
Speaker 2:yeah, absolutely. I think anybody who says they don't get a little nervous beforehand is probably lying nerves are good for you, yeah exactly. It's like you know, even just before talking to you, of course I'm a little nervous here, but, like you know, that's natural. But it's honestly like as soon as that 321 goes on like the very first workout, then it all goes out the window and it's totally, I'm totally fine yeah, it's just another workout that went right.
Speaker 1:Exactly how do you like deal with nerves before you go out on the floor, though?
Speaker 2:I listen to a lot of music Janie out in my car like hardcore before I get out of there and you know, meet up with everybody and then, yeah, I just kind of. I just kind of like let it ride. You know, if you're lucky enough to watch, watch the first heat, go one or two before you strategy. You can kind of get a little strategy there, but yeah, you know, it's just kind of, you know, going with the nervous vibes and amping yourself up and just going with it.
Speaker 1:I think what do you think is the best era music?
Speaker 2:Casey, I want era and John, no, you can't. I mean I'm gonna obviously know because I grew up, like you said, or you got athlete. Like I said, I was very much into the emo music and stuff let's go definitely love all the my chemical romance. That was my number one let's go so hard for love them. But you know I can't. I mean, if I'm being really honest, I really get down with like the 60s music 60s, let's go.
Speaker 2:My dad you know yeah, grew up like he's born in 1947, so he definitely later on a little bit with that stuff.
Speaker 1:So that's jazz. Is that era like? Elvis was like 70s, right? You know, this is me and Dionys sings that song.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm the type of guy that'll never settle down. All right, you got to look it up.
Speaker 1:It's called the wanderer that the last few words, but never settled down. I started here at the tune a little bit, but you'll have to look that up.
Speaker 2:But I definitely jaym asked that but now I like all kinds of music. Like you know, we had that great other, felony rap yeah felony rap-ish I like. I definitely listen to a lot of screaming metal in my car when I drive. You know I try not to play too much at the gym to scare anybody away, but if I'm in there like by myself at a really rock it gets loud in there is there any music that's a no-go on your list?
Speaker 2:Christian rock or something. No gospel, no gospel. I can't really rock out to that, but I'm like I love everything. I love opera, I love musicals, I love country.
Speaker 1:I love it all. Do you think that Insync is really coming back?
Speaker 2:I do think they are coming back, but I am a Backstreet Boys fan, so it doesn't matter to me. There's no way Insync comes back you don't think that they're doing all this and they're not going to come back.
Speaker 1:No, Justin is promoting himself. He's not letting any of the bums get up on stage with him.
Speaker 2:I don't know. We'll have to say TB Day again.
Speaker 1:There's no way that he's going to let them come up on stage with them?
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:He's like JC. I see you trying to get too cute before you ain't coming up on here.
Speaker 2:I'm just going to say you know, backstreet Boys never died, so you know, I'm also hopefully going to be getting Phoenix Cross the Play started at RAID. I'm kind of a little bit coaching training at the moment so we'll see how that goes.
Speaker 2:So hopefully within the next couple months we can get something going there. And yeah, I mean just see what happens. It promotes as much as I can and goes to as many classes and events, not just CrossFit I want to go to. There's a broad climbing like maybe even start like I don't know, another kind of event, like I said, like maybe pain pumpkins or like something in the holidays.
Speaker 1:Some ball-themed stuff because, like a lot of times, like, especially as adults like the traditional stuff can be, like not based around but have alcohol associated with it. Like two things for adults. We put everything, we celebrate everything around food and alcohol, you know. So find a safe space for people that are in sober communities around the holiday times. And then you know it can be super hard.
Speaker 2:So definitely want to like plan some stuff with that, but it's not necessarily like fitness-based, even though I think it's a really great outlet, it could be very intimidating. So even if we can get people in just to be around community, whatever that might look like.
Speaker 1:So I will say yeah, like maybe a friend's give me kind of thing at a gym with a workout and then like just a thing afterwards and like doesn't have freaking all the case coming in and stuff like that Exactly. So what's next for you as far as the girls, for competitions and fitness?
Speaker 2:I mean, I think, just kind of continuing on, you know, the fitness path that I'm on, probably taking a little bit of a break after November from the comps in general, which I think there aren't really that many throughout the winter anyways, yeah, quite a sound, that's fine.
Speaker 2:But I'm definitely looking forward to doing all the same maybe not every single comp that I've done this year, but a few of them again and seeing how I can improve and maybe, if I was scaling them one, how I can be RX in it next year possibly or something like that. And yeah, finding a little bit more of a balance with some more rest day sprinkled in there, I think, will be good for my progress as well. So we'll see how that goes.
Speaker 1:Okay, so I think I have two more questions, maybe Mike and Tilly with the rest of them after these two. So say, someone comes to you and they are on a self like worth, self help, self work journey, like maybe like unrelated to getting so worth and like that they're just trying to start working on themselves Like what's one piece of advice for you that you would give them like where to start at?
Speaker 2:I would say a be gentle with yourself and patient with yourself. Change real change doesn't happen overnight, but changing little habits daily can eventually lead to a lot of big change down the road. I think honestly, being honest with yourself, is also very important Taking a look inward and realizing what your flaws may be and not being afraid of that and saying, okay, we'll kind of do to change that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, I think a lot of times you are afraid to look at ourselves in that way and because it feels uncomfortable and whatever. But once you do and you see that and you can change that for the better, you know you can really do anything in my opinion. I was just saying you can do anything, right, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then on the Phoenix know and just training groups about accountability in general if people are out there looking to like grow the network and break more people searching for us in. Do you have any advice for that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, like I said, philly sober events on Instagram is a great way to be connected. You know you want to go go to the website, which is the Phoenix dot org. Right, correct, and then the app, the Phoenix app. They have everything right on there. You can check that out. Anybody's always free to reach out to me on Instagram or Facebook, whatever. I'm happy to answer any questions, but yeah this is my last question.
Speaker 1:Actually, this is a funny one. Do you think you can catch a NFL quarterbacks pass?
Speaker 2:100%.
Speaker 1:On that note dogs. This is Casey Kehoe. I'm Tita K. It is always go check out the Phoenix piece.