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EP 11 - Preparation for Lent ft. Jorge Flores
Discover what Lent really means and how it can transform your spiritual journey. We dive deep into the significance of fasting, personal experiences, and practical tips for growing closer to God during this reflective season.
• Unpacking the essence of Lent and its significance
• Personal stories and experiences with faith and Lent
• The importance of giving up distractions and embracing prayer
• Advice on starting small and making the most of the Lenten season
• Cultural practices surrounding Lent, especially in Hispanic communities
• The role of community and family in celebrating Lent
• Practical ways to engage in Lent without feeling overwhelmed
• Encouragement to reflect genuinely on personal faith and growth
• Final thoughts on preparing for Holy Week
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What is up, you guys? It is boy Fernando. Welcome back to another episode of Little Shy's podcast. On today's episode, we're going to be talking about something that we don't normally talk about in other episodes, but before we get into our topic, I do want to apologize. It has been two weeks no episode. I had no episode because we had technical difficulties and I'm going to be completely honest with you guys, I wasn't really feeling it. You know, I feel like when you do something so much, at the end of the day this is supposed to be fun, and it got to a point where I was drained. I was like I don't know what to do, I was running out of ideas and I kind of just didn't want to do it. But today's episode is going to be very, very special. I have somebody very, very close to me on this episode today. I have one of Sunrise Chevrolet's top salesmen, a good friend of mine with actually 15, about 15 years of friendship.
Speaker 2:Just about.
Speaker 1:Un primo mio, compadre mio, un buen amigo, jorge Flores. Let's give it up for you everybody.
Speaker 2:Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1:Dude, how do you feel? This is your first podcast that you have ever been on?
Speaker 2:First podcast ever, well, yeah, ever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, not that you have ever been on ever.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, ever yeah, not on the mic, but, and you don't even like listening to podcasts. No, I'll be very. Yeah, a little more.
Speaker 1:Yeah, perfect yeah you don't even like listening to podcasts. I know when I started my podcast you were like bro, if you're gonna make a podcast, make it 15 minutes max he's like no one hour, bro.
Speaker 2:One hour, I was like. I was like my workouts are like 45 minutes. I can't even finish it. I will listen to your podcast, like cutting the grass, because it would take me an hour, an hour and a half. I'm like, okay, I could do it, yeah yeah, um, dude.
Speaker 1:so, like I said, I'm super excited to have you, thank you. Thank you especially, just because this episode I wanted to do it really different. So normally what we do on little shy is I interview people who have like a cool story, thank you, thank you Especially, just because this episode I wanted to do it really different. So normally what we do on Little Shy is I interview people who have like a cool story, not that you don't have a cool story. I like to interview photographers, upcoming artists, djs, you know kind of somebody like in the entertainment field. But right now we're going to enter a time that is one of my favorite times, so what we're going to enter is Lent.
Speaker 2:Lent.
Speaker 1:And this episode might not be targeted for everyone.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, but the reason why I decided to do it was because you know what I think that I have. If I have a platform, I'm obviously going to spread and talk about what I believe in. I have a platform. I'm obviously going to spread and talk about what I believe in. So I know there's a lot of people, especially young adults, teenagers, who maybe want to get closer to God, or they want to. They don't. They know what Lent is, but they don't know what Lent is. So I was like you know what? This is something that means a lot to me, so why not talk about it?
Speaker 1:You know, and you that you're a good person to have on this episode, because, but yeah, so we're gonna be talking about that stuff. Ash, wednesday is literally right around the corner, so this episode is going to air on monday, and I thought this would be the perfect time to release this episode so that we could maybe tell you guys a little bit about what exactly Lent is, how to prepare for it. And, yeah, but before we get into that, I do want you to tell us your background, in the faith. Okay, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, yeah, so, yeah, yeah. So let's go into that. So why do I have you on this podcast?
Speaker 2:first of all, so long story short, what's it called? I do come from a Catholic family, but also my mom was a nun. I was always involved in church, your mom was a nun, my mom was a nun. Or going to be a nun, going to be a nun Dilo, bien Dilo bien, my mom was actually like, let's just say, a seminarian before becoming a priest. She joined before her sister. My idea, my deal was actually unknown, but then my mom joined. She was like, like I said, beginning um long story short, obviously I'm alive.
Speaker 2:So she didn't actually do the whole thing yeah, right, but she was in preparation for it my grandma, she was very involved, uh, in the church, so going to church was always all the time. Every sunday, every cuaresma, like, obviously, we did the typical, uh, mexican things that you know you have to go, you can't eat meat during lanta in the whole week, so, uh, just stuff like that. But then, however, as becoming a cradle catholic by being born in the faith, you actually just you follow, just because you follow yeah, exactly right, and whatever your mom does, your dad does, you just go do it so
Speaker 1:uh, but yes, but my faith actually didn't start start until um fast forward until 2011 yeah, so when you were a teenager, because, like when you're in high school, yeah, you might still go to church with your parents, but you kind of do like your own thing. You know what I'm saying so when you're in high school you kind of would, did you have faith?
Speaker 2:or it was like kind of just, it was just there um, no, um faith, yes because, like I always knew there was god and I respected god but not faith is different from having a relationship. So yeah so, yes, did I have. Did I believe in god? Yes, but did I have a relationship in god? No, like he was just the guy upstairs like don't do this, don't do that, kind of like but yes, relationship, no faith, yes, yeah, so what?
Speaker 1:really changed you to get into the faith is that? So you started dating. So you're my cousin through marriage. So when you started dating my cousin, she was very involved in the faith and she drew you to that. But I guess a lot of people when they enter a relationship you could choose whatever you want to do. You don't have to follow, but you followed. And what I like a lot is that Even though she's the one who brought you into the faith, you were like you kept it going. You were a CCD teacher at a time.
Speaker 1:You were teaching at a church, reading the Bible.
Speaker 2:You knew your prayers, youth group and all that stuff.
Speaker 1:So how did that?
Speaker 2:even become a thing, uh. So one time I asked my mom I'm like hey, mom, why are we catholic? And she's like why are you asking me that? Because we are, because we are like no, no, why are we catholic? Like like I was going through a time like are you even sure we're in the right?
Speaker 1:denomination or in the right faith, like like there's so many religions, are you even sure we're in the right?
Speaker 2:denomination or in the right faith? Like like there's so many religions in the world, Like, are we actually in the right one?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So that's what kind of triggered me, but that was actually while obviously dating my wife at the time. Like that kind of like triggered me to to know more, because the problem that I have is that I'm too theological.
Speaker 1:Like.
Speaker 2:I want to know the answer, but what I've learned is that God doesn't want you to know the answer. He wants you to have a relationship with it.
Speaker 1:Like it's good to know the answer.
Speaker 2:Pero como dicen, el que sabe más le pide más right. So if you know more, you're going to God expects more. So I just kept digging and digging, and digging. So but yeah, like yeah, do I know more than my? You know than me que tu prima? Like yeah, do I know more than?
Speaker 1:my, you know than me que tu prima.
Speaker 2:Yeah, probably En todo In todo right. Yeah, en todos lados right. But what Alexia is an expert in is that she has an amazing relationship with God. Yeah, an amazing relationship and I struggle with that. And I'm like oh, pues, yo quiero saber lo que dice la Biblia right yeah, so she has the relationship, but you have like tú tienes el cerebro, yeah right, pero como dice, like I want to be like, that's why there's like wisdom, right Like.
Speaker 2:I want to know, but also like, okay, god's like, okay, you do know, you know the answers. Now do it, you know, like create a relationship with me now, since you know, yeah, so that's why I just kept like I wanted to know answers, answers. Obviously, I ended up finding the answer um, but like my mom didn't like that, she's like nunca preguntas eso like you are, because you are, yeah, I'm like yeah that's that should like.
Speaker 2:I don't feel like in any and it doesn't matter what denomination or religion, but like, if you're gonna be part of something like, you should know your answers right, of course if anything um protestants or like non-catholics, like, supposedly, the more you know biblically, they actually convert to callousism at the end because it's like well, you know, they just skip it. Well, I don't nothing wrong?
Speaker 1:yeah, of course, of course you know, but yeah, um, but that's, that's what I've heard. Yeah, it's not what it is, whatever yeah, and then we're also going to let everybody know that this episode is going to be in a catholic perspective.
Speaker 2:So, um, lent overall is pretty much practice avengers yeah, lent overall is pretty much celebrated, very similar in other denominations and the way that we celebrate it might not be the way that you celebrate it, but we're going to give you our perspective and what we believe in well, also because of like going off of that like tradition, right, but like as a hispanic, mexican family, right, like like the more I feel like us as hispanics or latinos, like we, actually we I feel like we do too much, to the point that if you don't do it, it like offends your mom or your tia, or yeah and I feel like that's the culture thing is cool, like it's good, but then it's bad, because sometimes you're doing stuff that you, when you do it, and it's not right, you're like oh man, it's not right, but you're like it's okay, like that's not even biblical, like what you're doing is in part.
Speaker 1:So if you don't do it, it's okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's just like a whole culture thing, like that's just what your grandma believes in, but it's not the truth, yeah yeah, but okay so then.
Speaker 1:So we're gonna get into the episode right away, bro. Um so, like I said, this episode is about lent, preparing for lent and how you can have the best lent and, like I said, grow your relationship with god, all right.
Speaker 1:So, first of all, what is lent? So Lent is a 40-day period of prayer, fasting and almsgiving. It's a time of preparation for Easter, which celebrates the resurrection of Jesus. So that's what Lent is. So now, traditionally, during Lent, what most people do is that you get asked to give something up. That's in the Catholic Church. I don't know what the rest of them do. George, what is the purpose of us giving something up for land?
Speaker 2:uh, I would say, to give up something means to take out, to basically to take out something that is distracting you from god right so that's why we give up something, not because we, not because, like anything is bad, right, like food is not bad. You know social media is not bad. But god's like saying, hey, I want to be part of your life, but I can't be part of your life because that space that it should be for me is covered up with, you know, facebook, snapchat, instagram, or, you know, food or work or working out right like.
Speaker 2:That's why it says to give up doesn't technically mean to just give up something and that's it.
Speaker 1:It's like you fill that space right yeah, and, like I said, it's supposed to bring you something else. We're going to bring you closer to god at the end now is it? Is it obligatory, like, do you have to give something up?
Speaker 2:no, no no, I technically I've been doing it for a while now, but I technically don't really even give up anything.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Do I try to do stuff less. If anything, I struggle more on action than giving up. Can I always give up food? Yes, can I give up social media?
Speaker 1:Probably, I don't know see uh, but like um, but like I just don't.
Speaker 2:I hope I didn't move the camera. No, you're good, you're perfect, okay, okay, uh, sorry, but uh, what was I saying?
Speaker 1:no, you were talking about the whole giving up thing yeah, yeah, so like no, I don't.
Speaker 2:I haven't given up. If anything, I struggle more to do something like like reading the bible, or doing a rosary, or or going like, for example, like if I'm off on fridays because of my job, like I should be able to sneak in a daily mass yeah like or adoration, like, yeah, I'm more like.
Speaker 2:It's kind of like going to the gym, right, like I'm going to struggle the first week to go every day, but then once I go I've been doing it now for every day, but I struggle more on action or doing than okay, then I'm not going to eat pop or something.
Speaker 1:So in your instance, an example for everyone is that maybe you don't always have to give something else, but instead maybe do something that can grow your relationship with God.
Speaker 2:Yes, and then that automatically will give up something. You know like okay, I should be reading the Bible right now. Okay, put my phone away.
Speaker 1:Exactly, you're already giving it up Screen time. Yeah, exactly Like okay.
Speaker 2:I should go to adoration. Okay, instead of me watching TV, I'm going to give up the TV to go to adoration or to go to mass. So you're already giving space without you even even yeah doing it right?
Speaker 1:yeah, so what is something that like for beginners who are trying to get into Lent for the first time? Or maybe, like I said, people just do it like traditionally, like everybody's, like oh you know what, I'm gonna give up? Pop, I'm gonna give up social media. What do you think is something good that someone can give up for Lent?
Speaker 2:well, I would say, first start with, like the, the foundation right, first give up not eating meat on Fridays yeah right, that's the start, right, like, like, like, let's say, the church would always ask you see, people don't really like, people think it's like doing a lot, but I'm like, like, let's say, the church, they ask you to do the bare minimum they ask you to do the bare minimum, always, right.
Speaker 2:They're not expecting you to do 100 things like okay, don't eat meat on fridays. Like that's all we ask, that's it. Don't eat it. Like, okay, chicken and meat don't count, right? No, well, it's only.
Speaker 1:You know, it's only meat, no chicken too or like people are like yo puedo comer pollo, I can go to chicken like chicken and meat, or like okay, or do it like go, don't even eat fish, right so like do the bare minimum right yeah and then obviously, um, that's like the bare minimum.
Speaker 2:And then fasting, right. So like, don't like. Como tu abuelito, right, every Friday doesn't eat after 12, right? So, he fasts all year round, which is awesome, but like, yeah, the bare minimum. Like don't eat after 12 on Fridays and don't eat meat, but during the week Don't eat after 12 or eat after 12?.
Speaker 1:Yeah, eat after 12. Yeah, eat after 12, so like the Virgin Mary.
Speaker 2:What I've heard is like nuestra madre always says if you really need food, if you really need a cup of water and a piece of bread, like something that's humble, right, but don't go to McDonald's. Don't go to your drive-thru and get your McDonald's get the double filet-o-fish with extra tartar sauce fries and extra large soda and then have one meal, one meal, and then have two extra meals, but as a but like small, small but smaller than your one meal. Yeah, okay, so that's like the beginning, so let's break that down, okay, so?
Speaker 1:during lent on fridays. You are you're supposed to abstain from meat yeah, abstain from meat yeah so on fridays, during lent, you do not eat meat. Okay, also, you are to fast on fridays. So now let's tell them one more time. What exactly does fasting on fridays mean from my perspective? You can tell me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 2:No, fasting is you can have one meal and two small, like a little snack two small meals but actually that are smaller than the meal, than your one meal, yeah, so for example, let's just say it's, it's the friday, I'm gonna have as my meal, I'm gonna have um a granola bar in the morning, or like whatever a granola bar I said no, it's a meal, bro, it's a snack.
Speaker 2:Okay, let's say, you go your drive-thru, right, and you get yourself uh, get the fish sandwich meal. Right. You get your fries and you get your fish sandwich and you get your pop Right, that's your meal, okay, right.
Speaker 1:That's all you're eating all day. That's your meal Right. That's your meal Right. Granola bar Snack Wait.
Speaker 2:And then, and then your two meals, but like yeah, let's just say like an apple and some grapes. Exactly An apple, equivalent exactly an apple equivalent to a granola bar to a granola bar right which one, bro, which one?
Speaker 1:you have protein bar, protein bar there you go protein. Uh, yes, uh, the barbell right yes, 20 grams, bro, 20 grams, you know and then your second meal.
Speaker 2:Just you could do it again, or like you know, and that's it that's it, yeah, that's it, yeah, that's it. But also let's talk about this Because earlier we were talking but there's another side of fasting.
Speaker 1:Go ahead, no, no, go for it. Well, I was just letting you know that, because on Fridays we talk about again culture, tradition and religion.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:It could be dangerous to mix, because sometimes that defeats the purpose of the Friday. You might as well just eat me on Friday.
Speaker 2:Like como un padre amigo mío, like Padre Néstor, amazing guy. He's like come carne, come lo que quieras, come tus cinco. Yeah, yeah, you know. Like como un padre amigo mío, like Padre Néstor, amazing guy. He's like come carne, come lo que come tus cinco tacos del viernes. Dios no le importa, right? That's not the point, right? The point of fasting is not obviously, you can you eat meat on Fridays, yes, yes, you can. But the reason why we abstain from meat on Fridays is because, like I said, it's the bare minimum. It's the bare minimum. It's the bare minimum. However, if you're trying to like for me, me personally, like okay, yeah, I am going to meat on Fridays, right? Like, let's say I do. Will I go to hell if I eat a burger on Fridays? No, right, but I'm not going to eat meat on Fridays. But let's just say I do, Okay. So, so what you know, keep going, but that doesn't mean I'm going to do it every friday, right?
Speaker 1:yeah, but I mean, you're not going to be like. You know what my intention is.
Speaker 2:Oh well, you know I'm going to eat me on fridays because I you know, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Okay, but I'm going to read. You know, a chapter in the Bible. You know, like the whole point of Lent is your preparation to, to fill your space with God, right? So if the Bible, or reading, like reading scripture, is a more struggle for you to open up that Bible, that's right next to you, right? Us Mexican Catholics, we love our Bibles, but we just like them to look good, right, yeah, it's just there, right? No, lo toques. Es el adorno, es el de la boda bro, no lo abres. Ahí está ahí, está bro, ahí está El adorno, pero like, okay, god, but like, obviously, the more you know, the more you expect, right?
Speaker 2:so like okay, now I know that I came in on fridays, but like, okay, I'm not gonna be on fridays, but I'm also gonna read the bible yes, on fridays you know. So it's just stuff like that like okay, it's like. Yeah, so like that's the thing about. Is it bad to eat meat on fridays? No, come to two. Cinco tacos con tus alas, hay una y tu coca, no importa but you shouldn't right, but you shouldn't but like okay, but what's gonna get you closer to god? Esos, tacos or that bible exactly read that scripture.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know I mean so like go for them, but like, obviously, once you move on, for like beginners, once you keep going and going, then yes, yeah, don't even get on fridays.
Speaker 1:And then people are probably wondering like why, why should I fast on fridays? Or why do we fast during lent? Do you know the answer to that question?
Speaker 2:um well, fasting for me would be prepare right to prepare to like.
Speaker 2:Fasting also means to like abstain, but also like, okay, it's a time for me to sacrifice something for like, okay, I, I'm fasting, but I'm also praying. Right, it's not just like I'm staying, like, okay, I'm not going to eat meat on Fridays, right, but like, also, I'm going to pray. I'm going to pray for others, I'm going to pray for the sick. I'm going to do something that God wants me to do. That's like the whole fasting thing, right, so, like to open up your heart for God, right, yeah, but like. The whole fasting definition is, you know, to like not eat, right, because you're fasting.
Speaker 1:Right but like fasting.
Speaker 2:If you're not going to eat meat or whatever it is or whatever you're giving up, okay, since you're not eating that or whatever you're giving up, what are you doing to replace it to? Like that whole, that's the whole fasting.
Speaker 1:Right, are you doing to replace it, to like that whole, that's the whole fasting. Yeah right, I also look at it in this way. Is that when you're fasting or abstaining from something, like when you give something up, let's just say, for example, that you're a big um, you're a big sweet guy, so then after dinner you always have a dessert or siempre tienes como tu cafecito. You know what I'm saying so from you abstaining from, let's just say you always have to have that pan dulce after every dinner.
Speaker 1:You abstaining from that pan dulce is going to help you with temptation. So when you stop that, now that little you're not eating, that pan dulce can help you, maybe with a vice. You know, if it could be like abstaining from lust, abstaining from alcohol or abstaining from chisme. You know what I'm saying and that's, like you said, the bare minimum, the bare minimum the bare minimum. So I think that when we abstain from something, it's supposed to help us in our temptations and then to stray away from the bigger picture yeah, yeah, but like also talk about temptation.
Speaker 2:Temptation is not a sin, right? No, no, no, it's the action, it's the action after that, right so yeah so, but yeah, to help, you can look at the bread, you can look at it, you look at it deeply, but you don't eat it. You don't eat it, but yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then also for beginner people who are doing that because because, dude, I love Lent. I actually love Lent more than Christmas.
Speaker 2:So fun fact, Lent is like Christmas.
Speaker 1:It's very similar. It's the same colors right, Purple, right. No es rojo y verde. No es rojo y no verde right.
Speaker 2:So, like green means hope, you know, purple means to prepare right. So that's why four weeks of it's funny right Four forty, what Cu weeks of it's funny, right for 40.
Speaker 1:What? What is my 40 days? Yeah?
Speaker 2:40 days the lent, but also like four weeks, yeah, of christmas, yes, right so, but it's preparing.
Speaker 1:It's the same, it's the same objective, it's the same mission or the same whatever, uh, but yes, to prepare christ in you yeah, yeah, yeah, um, but, like I said so, I was telling you that I love this time because I really, and I'm the opposite you like christmas?
Speaker 2:I love christmas, do you love? But?
Speaker 1:let me tell you this do you love christmas and I don't think there's, if you say it's do you love christmas for for the christmas or for the? The religious aspect? Both, because I love the christmas, you know, but in the religious aspect I like easter better because I feel like there's more to prepare you for it like he said there's lent, there's the whole on fridays when you fast and I feel like the preparation for christmas it? No, there's not as much to it, you know well, I'll tell you why.
Speaker 2:Like for lent for me, uh, I the reason why I say lent is actually my least favorite holiday, or my my least favorite bonito. Yeah, it's actually my least, not because the whole giving up thing and all that stuff, but it's actually my least. It's because, like growing up as a kid, like seeing, like the passion and like, like my mama like.
Speaker 2:So I felt kind of like rules right, it felt like too many regulations, like, uh, like you can't do this and you can't do that, and then, and then you go to you know, you go to your iglesia and you see the passion of christ and then they're like whipping, you know jesus, and it's just like it's a sad time. It's a sad time you're like that's why I did like the christmas holiday, because from the moment it starts, it's all happy, feel you know it's all happy, you know it's all good vibes, you know.
Speaker 2:That's why it's like yes, does this, does America make Christmas? What? Yeah, of course, but like yes. Lentz would be on my bottom of my list, but it's trying to make its way up there. I really yeah.
Speaker 1:What are some things that you can share with us, that you are giving up and doing If you are doing? You know, know, what are some things that you are, so I'm gonna try.
Speaker 2:I'm really gonna try this. Uh, I want to give up social media, but look, but here's the thing about social media. I can't just say social media, because social media is like, it's like, it's a thousand things right, um, like, I want to give up. The like is like. Like, for example, instagram, snapchat, facebook you're gonna give up instagram no, okay, uh, I'll probably start with like, like, kind of like what you're doing, like Snapchat, I'm going to give up social media, but not Instagram, not Facebook.
Speaker 1:So here's the thing I'm going to give up MySpace, what's it called?
Speaker 2:What's that app that had like six second videos?
Speaker 1:Vine.
Speaker 2:You're going to give up Vine? But yes, it's seis segundos. That's all I need, bobby, anyways, uh, but yes, it's a segundo. That's all I need about me, anyways, uh, but yeah, I want to like. Yes, is, am I?
Speaker 1:going to struggle with it. Yes, uh, also, you're going to start with, you're going to give up snapchat at first yeah, I want to.
Speaker 2:I want to try snapchat. I want to try fossey, fossey, right. Yeah, because, like I say, it's the most easy right and then, for example, like then instagram and then facebook. However, with my job, though, being a a salesman, I do post, and you probably see it too.
Speaker 2:I do post cars and I do post like ads and I get customers that reach out to me to say is this still available? Is this still available? So it's just like it's another way of me reaching out to sell more cars. If it's for work, it's different. Yes, if I'm on Facebook for quote, unquote, work, and then me da la tentacion to go swipe up or swipe left. Yeah, that's the thing. It's just like can I, can I? Not really, but that's what I want, to start Right.
Speaker 1:I want to find something. I think Snapchat you getting away from Snapchat is a good start.
Speaker 2:It's a good start, right? I don't see no MySpace, but you know a bit of yeah but yeah, and what I want to do is I want to do a couple of things Fridays for sure, since I'm off on Fridays and it's funny, my day off all year round is Fridays. Okay, and then God has a sense of humor, right? ¿y el qué pasa el viernes Muy chistoso, muy chistoso, ¿verdad? Hey?
Speaker 2:I'm not laughing man, I'm not laughing. Pero el viernes ¿qué pasa? No, this right, it's my day off. Oh yeah, yeah, it's my day to be at home, be with my kids go out, go have a dinner, go to chili's whatever, right, yeah, can't eat meat. Can't eat that burger, can't have that steak right whatever, uh.
Speaker 2:So when it's going out for dinner with my wife, it's well, what am I going to eat it, right, uh? And then alexia, she likes to go to see the stations on the cross. So like me doing, going to see a movie, or which I don't do, but like going out to dinner, going to the mall.
Speaker 1:That's eliminated already so I was just like, okay, now we gotta do that.
Speaker 2:But I want to do, obviously, go to mass. Go to probably go to mass on friday adoration, for sure, um, and for sure, como dicen, como se ha dicho um. Like read scripture, okay, um, I don't know what saint it is, but it's just like ignorance of the bible, ignorance of scriptures, ignorance of god right scriptures, ignorance of God right. Yes, one of those things, right?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So yeah, read more scripture, old, new, whatever, but read something. Okay. But also, but probably number one, pray. Okay, and pray as a family.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Pray together, like, make it like every Friday like hey, and obviously we have kid rosaries and all that stuff.
Speaker 1:So that's awesome. I like all those things. Yeah, um, for me, the things that I want to give up is damn. I forgot what I was gonna give up, but what I want to do more is I want to do a daily rosary, like I said even if you don't have anything to give up right now yeah at least okay.
Speaker 2:What can you know? If you're not doing anything, you can start doing right like yeah you don't have, like, it's not like a deadline, right. Like, oh, what can I give up? It's like okay, well, put that aside, right, like God would be like okay, if you don't have to give up, that's fine. Como dicen come a tus tacos right, pero dame. Pero haz algo para mí. You know what I mean, so, but it's just like but I'm not doing anything.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean and that's what I struggle with.
Speaker 2:So it's just like, and God's like, okay, jorge, you know a lot about me, but I don't know you Of everything you know you know nothing.
Speaker 1:Exactly, man, you said it man. It's just because an apple falls it doesn't fall in all of them. Hey, this is my Chepe, this is Chepe my grandpa oh, I love that guy, I love that guy so, yeah, no, I'm gonna. What I'm gonna try to do during this lent period is, um, I'm gonna try to do the daily rosary okay, and the reason that's hard and the reason why I want to do it is because one, so I could do it monday through friday.
Speaker 1:Because I kind of cheat, I put it. There's an app that I have called uh hollow. Yeah, that doesn't count.
Speaker 2:It's a start, okay. It doesn an audio book count as reading the book? No.
Speaker 1:Okay, there you go. So like, well, I'm going to try to pray with it. You got to like I got to pray with it.
Speaker 2:Hasta Alexa sabe el rosario. Seriously, go to Alexa, Be like Alexa, play the rosary and she'll do it.
Speaker 1:So I'm going to start with the rosary. But what? Monday to Friday is easy, because I could just play it on my way to work. Saturdays and Sundays, though, since I'm not driving to work, I have to make time and either do it in the morning or before bed, and sometimes before bed I'm not. I'm not praying, or doing that because I'm like what are you doing? I want to scroll on TikTok.
Speaker 2:I want to go and edit your videos.
Speaker 1:Yeah no, I'm like, what are you doing? I want to scroll on TikTok, I want to go and the dude Edit your videos. Yeah no, I'm not even editing, I'm just bailando, bro, I'm just bailando. Yeah, no, but that's what I'm going to try doing, but that's what I really. I really recommend that you guys try to do that stuff so you guys can get closer. Really, I really recommend that you guys try to do that stuff so you guys can get closer. Um, so all this stuff leads into the very end of lent, which is holy week, and in holy week, intense week my favorite time of the year.
Speaker 1:I said I love it. It's my favorite time of the year, I really. I kind of like it, though, when I was when I was little.
Speaker 2:You know how the spring break yeah spring break was always during, holy always. I feel like they did it on purpose you're not supposed to do anything you're here resting.
Speaker 1:No, I'm going to do the same every day I'm like man but why I like it is because I like that it's quiet and that it's sad, so I kind of I like that so yeah, the remembrance kind of thing, exactly the remembrance you know it really makes you think yeah, yeah, yeah. So it starts with Holy Thursday. What is Holy Thursday?
Speaker 2:Well, it starts with the.
Speaker 1:Like what do we celebrate on Holy Thursday?
Speaker 2:Well, we're celebrating a couple things. Well, no, it starts Wednesday.
Speaker 1:What's Wednesday.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, sorry. Yeah, thursday so the Last Supper. Yes, so Thursday is the the last supper.
Speaker 1:Yes, so Thursday is the last supper.
Speaker 2:Last supper.
Speaker 1:Well, so there's two things, lavatorio de los pies. So yeah, that's three things.
Speaker 2:So three things happen on Thursday the washing of the feet, the birthday of priesthood Right, and then the Eucharist Right.
Speaker 1:The first mass, the first mass ever.
Speaker 2:First mass, first la mis, first Mass, first La Misa Ever. Y esa me hará más de una hora bro.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Ahí es cuando Dios dijo I am the bread of life.
Speaker 2:I am right there.
Speaker 1:Yo soy.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And I feel like obviously, though, I don't want to get into the whole symbolism, the whole theological thing, but it's just like and what I finally, finally realized is like Dios es Dios right. Dios puede decir lo que él quiere cuando él quiere. Porque es dios right. Si dios dice this is me and this is me, then that's what it is right. Like what are you gonna say? Like no, you know you're wrong. It's like, at the end, he's god like right, it's like it's close, but it's mi casa. It's like what?
Speaker 1:are you gonna say no, it's not, you know.
Speaker 2:So it's just like that's. I don't want to get too much into that, but like uh, but yeah, but yeah. Thursday last supper, eucharist priesthood, first priest um and then what about? Washing the feet. And then what about friday? Good friday so good friday.
Speaker 2:Obviously there's no misa and there's no good, and it's not good, it's not good uh, but it's good for the good action, right, what he's doing for us, uh, but yes, thursday at three o'clock, obviously, there's a service that's Nostro Servicio. Thursday or Friday, friday, friday. So 3 o'clock, that's the time that we all yeah, that's actually like the holy, the divine hour. So like 3 o'clock 3 pm, everyone's in silence, right, yeah?
Speaker 1:But, like during the day, you should be meditating and what's going on, right? Yeah, so traditionally also on fridays. I don't know if this is like in, like the actual catholic rule or like a mexican tradition um fridays no se ve la televisión no se escucha la música.
Speaker 2:No, te puedes reír, you can't do nothing, nothing on good friday. Is that traditional or is that like uh, that's uh that's culture, it's more culture more culture, because obviously you gotta do what you gotta do yeah um, but yeah, it's more culture. It's not tradition, because if it was tradition, that means we all do it. Yeah, but culture is like it's more like latinos.
Speaker 1:It's more latinos, or your?
Speaker 2:family, right, like every family has their own. Every family has their own traditions and cultures. But, uh, our, our church has traditions, right, but then we also have our own cultures, right yeah, so like yes do we, which is not wrong, it's not wrong. That's right. Traditions and cultures are not. They're not wrong. Right because we're not. We're not. We're not saying anything against it, but we're doing, more we're actually doing yeah too much.
Speaker 1:Also also me and Pelon have a lot, a lot of inside jokes. Oh yeah, guys, we have a lot. Okay, and also he said Pelon so some of you guys might know it, but my nickname in my family is Pelon and I have no clue why because I have a lot of hair bastante bastante pelo y ahorita tengo mucho pelo, so I've been letting my hair grow out for almost two months. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I'm actually going to get a haircut in Schaumburg by a TikTok barber.
Speaker 2:Que te lo recomiende.
Speaker 1:You recommended him to me. He has 80,000 followers.
Speaker 2:Even my own barber told me that you should go for him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he has 80,000 followers on Instagram and on TikTok it's 160,000 total, dude, so I'm super excited because, like I said, I've been letting this hair grow out. So I'm really, really excited, but I'm not Pelon.
Speaker 2:But yeah, like I said, me and George do have a lot of inside jokes, we go way back.
Speaker 1:So the whole volumen thing, we should tell him the volumen thing.
Speaker 2:So I was telling him.
Speaker 1:I was like hey, bro.
Speaker 2:I was like my hair is just like out of control, like I have so much volume in it, and then he was like I just take it out of context, you know, yeah, well, yeah, we have a lot, of, a lot of inside jokes that we, we just I mean, I was telling him, I was okay, bro, like when we're doing this podcast, I was like we're obviously going to goof around and be silly and stuff like that, but we want to try to be as serious as possible but at the same time, like we're going to add our personality to this.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:yeah, and I'm going to let you guys know that. So, when I was going to bring back little shy podcast, yeah, I originally wanted to bring back a podcast again and I wanted to have a faith-based podcast. Oh, cool, cool, cool. But the reason why I did not go that route is because, you know, I mean, at the end of the day, the devil sadly wins a lot.
Speaker 2:So I was like you know what, Todos los dias, bro, Todos los dias el gana.
Speaker 1:But I was like you know what. I just don't think.
Speaker 2:I don't think I'm the best example.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know what? I just don't think, I don't think I'm the best example?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but at the same time, I feel like I could be the best example. Yeah, of course. Well, think about it.
Speaker 1:Us as like this episode literally in general.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but also like God also wants you to use your platform to spread the word right.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:Like we always talk about our gifts and talents. Right, this is your gift and this is your talent. Like legit, like dios te puso esto. Like, think about the whole things you've done with your whole life, with dancing, with choreography like hey, mental health day, bro.
Speaker 2:oh my gosh, I was about to kill you about that one. But okay, anyways. But like dios is like, okay, I've given, like, okay, I've given you so much stuff, I've given you so much talents, so many gifts Y no vas a hacer nada and you can't do nothing for me.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Like you know, so like pero, like obvio, Dios is so loving and so caring and so loving that he is so respectful. He's such a we call him like. I've heard that dios is such a gentleman that, like they had, do you?
Speaker 1:right, right, that's my free spirit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're free to do whatever you do like. Yeah, I've given you everything. You've done everything.
Speaker 1:Give me the strength to do everything and everything you want but, whenever you want to introduce me, go for it, right, but like you know, so, so, yeah, that's why I thought that this this week would have been the best week to do yeah and, like I said at the very beginning of the episode, I'm like you know what guys? This is going to be a completely different episode, but at the same time. I really think that there's so many people who want to hear something like this from a normal guy yeah, you know yeah and that's the main reason why I wanted to do the faith-based podcast, because I was like you know what I'm cool.
Speaker 1:I do cool things, so why not super cool? Why not show people that you can be cool?
Speaker 2:and you can follow jesus at the same time like pope francis says, like, yes, we need santos that go to parties. We need santos that you know have a good time, that, yeah, drink and have, you know eats, but like being normal, right, being insane. Being a santo does not mean you have a rosary in your hand every single day. You know you're praying all day. No, no, if anything, if you read about the lives, about the los santos, like they, they struggled so much and like, like.
Speaker 2:So that's what I mean like we normal, normal, but also to be with him at the same time.
Speaker 1:So it's like yeah, which is like like you.
Speaker 2:You know, like you're a normal person, but also you love to have fun, you love to go out, you love to have a good time and at the same time, you could still be christ-like, or to the point that, okay, how can I be like fernando? Like what is he doing? Why is he so happy all the time? Like what is he doing that I like? And then people are gonna reach out to you, right, yeah?
Speaker 1:it's like and you know what I love that you said christlike, because the name of my podcast before little shy rebrand it was gonna be christ like podcast christ like christ christ like podcast.
Speaker 2:What did I send?
Speaker 1:you. You said shy like christ, like no, but that's like um, no, yeah, and that's what I wanted to do bro because, like I, said I mean there's, and I've had people reach out to me and I just think that I I could be a good example you know, and I don't know that's but we'll see.
Speaker 2:But I think today's gospel it was also on today's readings paul was saying about like uh, we should be like christ.
Speaker 2:Not be christ, not be god, but be like god right yeah that when people see it's like okay, he is a santo, right, like we always talk about, like. We always see certain people in our lives like oh, it's a santo, it's a santo like dude, that guy's like, you know, we all have a friend and family like man. He's a saint, he for sure like he's. So it's like but what is he doing? That I'm not. Yeah, because like yeah, we shouldn't be like saying like oh, it's not, like okay, but we should also point the fingers back, saying like what am I doing that? Why? Why can't I be a saint also too?
Speaker 1:like exactly, you know, and you guys, I mean a lot of you. Like I said, this is a catholic perspective, yeah, um, but every single one of you guys has the opportunity and possibility to be a saint what is, what is this?
Speaker 2:what do you think? Being a saint, what? What's the definition of being a saint? The definition no, no so, like I learned from Fico, my pal, shout out to him. But santo means to be, in Latin it means to separate, right. Okay, to like santo means to be separated from like stuff that is not like God.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Right. So that's why it's like, oh, why is he a saint? Because he no era de como decir el mundo right. He didn't do that, but because he was separated right, he separated himself from the world to be like Christ, yeah Right.
Speaker 1:And then, like I said, I always feel like that my gift is to bring happiness to bring joy and to be an example. Yeah, yeah, I really always think that I could be an example, you know.
Speaker 2:So me think that I could be an example. You know um, so me like a dude, catch me at parties every single weekend. You know what I'm saying. I'm part, I'm partying on every single weekend, bro, I'm there and that's not bad. But check this out, but check this out.
Speaker 1:So um, for me, I don't I don't, I don't, I don't need drinks to have fun. No, no, so when I no, so when I talk, I am sober right. I'm sober, I'm sober, I don't drink anything. Un cafecito and people are like bro, why don't you drink? And I don't drink because I don't find the need in that. When I'm at a party, ponme una canción.
Speaker 2:The music.
Speaker 1:I get drunk off the music. Yeah, yeah, yeah you. That's what makes me have a good time, I don't need the alcohol.
Speaker 2:Hasta la gente piensa that you are drinking, está bien pedo.
Speaker 1:Está bien pedo? I have no idea. No, no estoy pedo, pero tengo unas ganas de echarme uno.
Speaker 2:Hey DJ. Súbele para que no, lo diga Súbele mami Súbele.
Speaker 1:But, bro, like I said, that's my goal is to try to be an example. Yeah, for sure. A normal dude who loves to have fun, who loves to travel, sober, abstinent, loves God. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Like I don't want people at my funeral to be like oh, george was a great guy, like no, I want him to be like dude era el mejor.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no.
Speaker 2:I want him to remembered by like you know, he was a prayer, man of prayer, he was a man of god, stuff like that. Like not get like oh, he was a great person, like yeah no, pues todos somos right todos somos great, but, like being christ-like is different right, it's another level, you know, yeah like yeah, he was a great person.
Speaker 2:But like, for example, like you know, you see, you know I don't say anything bad, but like you see bad people, and then when they pass away, it it's like, oh, he was a great guy. It's like yeah you know what I mean? It's just like yeah, we're all great, we're all good people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Cause you also. You also don't want to be that guy cause who's also, and this is why those people are worse than me. You also don't want to be that person who is like, hey, you can't do this, you shouldn't do this, eso es malo.
Speaker 2:Don't do that.
Speaker 1:No, no, no no, no, como dijo. Like I said yesterday in the scripture, talking about and I don't know the exact termination- but the splinter in the eye.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that's today. Oh, that was today.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Yesterday is like paraphrase it like pretty much that you're talking about someone else and then you have that same problem no, like, not even talking about somebody else, but like you're pointing, you're pointing out a problem, but you also have the same problem.
Speaker 2:Exactly right, it's like it starts off like can two, like can a blind man, you know lead another blind man no, they'll fall into a hole, right, so that's the thing, but yes, but yeah, listen, normal, have fun, have fun with your families, go to parties, go to quinceañeras, it's. It's como te presentas, that's exactly what matters right.
Speaker 1:It's como te presentas. It's your intention, it's what you do. At the end of the day, you know you can live a normal life exactly yeah, it's not bad to drink. It's not. No, no, no.
Speaker 2:Como dicen, como el pecado, is it bad to drink? No it's not bad to drink. Is it bad to eat? No, it's when you eat too much or when you drink too much, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's, but yeah, like, yeah, are we like? I'm not going to say like that, people don't get drunk and stuff like that but like what is like? What is what is taking you away from God? That's, that's the main focus right. Like if drinking is taking you away from God. It's like if you know it's bad and you shouldn't be doing then, and you still do it. That's bad.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:Right, obviously una vez en cuando, like okay, hey, I got drunk this year, but or I got up for my party, obviously.
Speaker 1:We're human. We're not perfect Exactly, but, like you know, okay, that's fine. Learn from your mistakes.
Speaker 2:Learn from it, keep going. You had a birthday, hey, great Happy birthday. Yeah, keep going.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, do it next year Exactly, but don't keep doing god, and then can we say the bare minimum yeah?
Speaker 1:start with the bare minimum. Also, this is one of the last tips. Dudes, it's almost time for the episode to end. Yeah, it's already been 45 minutes. So you also, guys, if this is your first time doing land preparing for lent. You do not want to overwhelm yourself so don't, do not give up something that you know you cannot give up and you're gonna set yourself up for failure, like coffee. So, for example, if you are addicted to.
Speaker 2:Cigarettes or coffee.
Speaker 1:Maybe if you normally put A lot of creamer in your coffee Ponle poquito creamer, you know what I'm saying. Or like si tomo cafe todos los dias have one cup.
Speaker 2:Or like Monday, wednesday, friday, I have my coffee.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, you don't want to set yourself up for failure, because then at the end you're like you know, I already feel it bucket Start literally starting little leads a because I'm taking 15, 20 minutes out of my time that I normally would scroll on TikTok doing nothing.
Speaker 2:Like, let's say, you say I'm going to do a rosary, but like there's five days out of the week, or there's seven days, right, but out of those five days I'm going to do 10 Hail Marys.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Right, so then by the end you're done Right, but it's a start, okay.
Speaker 1:And then the next week, monday, or then monday, wednesday, friday, right, yeah, but you're still doing it, right? Uh, at the end it's the effort, right, exactly, exactly. I love that, um. So, yeah, guys, like I said, I mean, if you guys have any questions, feel free to reach out to me, feel free to reach out to george. We are not professionals, but we'd love to help you and guide you no, but I'm black and white I'm not a professional, you're very.
Speaker 2:I'm very black and white yeah, you'll I don't like sugarcoating it, because God doesn't sugarcoat no, you're gonna tell them how it is right it's what it is, but also like. I struggle with that too, like I know what's black and white, I know what's right and I know what's wrong, but like. And then people are like well, I'm gonna like, but okay, but does it mean this? It's like no, but at least know what's the right and the wrong answer. The sky will always be blue. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Siempre, siempre, por una vez es rosita El atardecer, el atardecer con tu cabecita when you shouldn't be drinking it.
Speaker 2:You're drinking it, but that's okay. You just got to keep going, right? Yes, god looks. God le encanta las cosas chiquitas with big efforts, right?
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:So, like, just start with that, right. So, okay, voy a empezar, Mira, voy a abrir la Biblia. And then, wait, I'm going to read three. You know one page, Okay, one page. You didn't even finish the story, but one page.
Speaker 1:You know, and then you finish the whole story, yeah, and then to end it off Easter doesn't mean you can go back to all those bad habits. The point of this is that you want to be a better person. You want to be closer to God. You don't want to be who you were before.
Speaker 2:Lent.
Speaker 1:These 40 days are meant to change you, to change your relationship with God. Get closer to God so that you can be a new person.
Speaker 2:New person. You know, like that thing you gave up should be. You keep giving it up but like, okay, now I'm not gonna do it.
Speaker 1:And then, like I said, we're not saying that not drinking coffee is gonna change you but, it's those little things are gonna help other things yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:But, like I said, you give up sweets, right, you're a big sweet person, right, you know, and you know who you are, right but it is right, but like okay, but like yeah, let's say, you do go back to sweets, right, but like that. And it's not lent, right, but um so in moderation, in moderation right.
Speaker 2:But I also have like priests that like keep going the whole friday right, like every friday they don't eat meat, or every friday or something like during the whole year friday I'm not gonna have you know and that's when you get more, more, more devoted obviously a little bit more extreme, but you know that's yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1:Um, okay, any other tips that you want to give for people during Lent? Any last words Start, small Start, small, start with the bare minimum. That really is the best thing, oh also one thing. We should have covered it, but confession right Confession as a Catholic view, right as a.
Speaker 2:Catholic or not, like hey, god, I'm sorry. And then blah, blah, like no, go to confession, go to your near church.
Speaker 1:With good intentions.
Speaker 2:With good intentions, because that's also filling the hole right. So, like you're giving up, you're emptying your hole to you know, for God can fill it right, but God can't go into a hole that's dirty right, yeah. So it's like okay, I highly recommend your first week or that first week of Lent go to confession. If or that first week of Lent go to confession.
Speaker 1:If it's during the week, if it's on the weekend.
Speaker 2:I mean mostly every parish that I've known, or every parish that you probably go to. I guarantee you have Saturday confessions at las cuatro de la tarde, right, and then if it's a Spanish mass, you better get there early.
Speaker 1:Yes, and if you need to find out, go to discovermass type in your zip code and it'll literally tell you every church in that area and the times that they confess and their mass times and everything.
Speaker 2:And if it's been a long time it's been 20 years, 10 years, it doesn't matter. Go to your priest and say hey, father, I haven't been here. You don't even got to tell him how long. Just be like it's been a long time I don't know what to do.
Speaker 1:It's been such a long time.
Speaker 2:I. I don't know what to do. I don't know what I'm doing, I don't even know what to say, but I'm here and that's what matters. If anything, there is more rejoice in heaven for one that repents than for many right, or obviously many that don't repent. Right. For one that repents there'll be more joy in heaven. So like and then start If anything, I would do that's a great start.
Speaker 1:It's great to start clean.
Speaker 2:Don't even give up anything, Don't even do anything. I guarantee you it will be more struggle for one, for a person To go to confession, to go to confession. That's the hardest thing. Then give up your cookie or your nieve or your coffee or read your Bible or whatever Like okay, I haven't been in confession in a long time. I got to do that first yes, and then highly recommend after confession if you go to 5 pm Mass just to get more theologically, you actually save a soul in purgatory for a clean soul, right?
Speaker 2:So once you go to confession you go straight to 5 pm, mass comulgas, right. You consume communion, you have a pure heart and then you can pray for someone that's in purgatory. What's purgatory? But we'll get to that. We don't get into that. But like you pray for something and then someone goes to heaven, or they rejoice, but also it's also good for you yeah right, like you just made you help someone go to heaven, right, that's another topic, um, but yes and yeah.
Speaker 2:So if you have a loved one that you're always thinking about, like, like, think about your abuelito, your abuelita, right, like you hope they're in heaven, right, we hope right that's all we hope that's all we can do, for we hope, right, not that there are, because they didn't send you a letter saying that they're okay. Now, you know, we hope, um, and then start your, start your lent. Okay, yep, I got a confession. Okay, now I can give up or do, uh, what I had to do yeah, perfect, man, I love stuff. And like.
Speaker 1:I said, we hope that all you guys have a great Lent. I think that maybe we should have another episode in the future, maybe after Lent talk about if we did everything that we wanted to do, if we feel like a better person and maybe stuff like that. And if you guys like these episodes where we talk about, you know, religious things and education and stuff like that, maybe we could do it again. For sure, you know, cause, like I said, I'd love to be an example in that field and help you guys get closer and build a relationship with God.
Speaker 2:Or also like comment like comment like what are you struggling? Like or have any questions, like comment on, obviously your page.
Speaker 1:Yeah, or send me a private message too.
Speaker 2:You don't got to publicly comment Like say hey, this is what I'm trying, what should I do?
Speaker 1:Any advice or anything, and then that helps us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, hope find the answer for you. Obviously, we're not professionals. Nope, help you find the answer and put it in a perspective that you can understand it yes. Instead of talking to like a theological maestro.
Speaker 1:We'll dumb it down for you Exactly, we'll dumb it down, we'll humanize.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we'll do that for you.
Speaker 1:George. Thank you so much for being on today's episode. I had so much fun. Now we get to hang out, have fun, eat good food Un cafecito Guys for those of you guys listening. Thank you so much for listening. I'm sorry. I was gone for two weeks. Like I said, I was going through it. I didn't want to do it, technical difficulties, whatever it was.
Speaker 2:Tune in to Little Shy Podcast every single Monday on Apple, on apple and spotify. Once again, guys, thank you so much for tuning in. Peace out we out.