Dr. Jonathan Ashong-Lamptey - Using Evidence-Based Decisions to Make Workplaces More Inclusive

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Dr. Jonathan Ashong-Lamptey - Using Evidence-Based Decisions to Make Workplaces More Inclusive
Jun 15, 2023 Season 5 Episode 23
David Turetsky

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Summary:

Back in the late 2000s, Dr. Jonathan Ashong-Lamptey was working as a Chartered Accountant (i.e., a CPA) in the UK. Attending Barack Obama’s inauguration in 2009 inspired Dr. Jonathan, and when Obama then appeared on the cover Accountancy magazine, he knew he had to open it up and get to reading. An article inside titled “It Does Matter if You’re Black or White” caught his eye, and set him on a path to quit his job and pursue a PhD from the London School of Economics with the goal of making workplaces more inclusive globally. 

In this episode, Dr. Jonathan talks about using evidence-based processes to make workplaces more inclusive. 


Chapters:

[0:00 - 11:54] Introduction

  • Welcome, Dr. Jonathan!
  • Today’s Topic: Evidence-based Inclusion

[11:55 - 17:42] What does evidence-based decision making mean for DEI?

  • Defining “diversity”, “equity”, and “inclusion”
  • The four key sources to collect data from when making decisions

[17:43 - 28:46] Common misunderstanding and misinterpretations of DEI

  • What is the business case for diversity in your organization?
  • Focusing on DEI for retention and promotion, not just recruitment

[28:47 - 41:06] How to put evidence-based diversity into practice

  • Why referencing meta studies can be far more informative than an individual study
  • Using the PICOC approach to implementing DEI strategies

[41:07 - 42:47] Closing

  • Thanks for listening!


Quotes:

“Evidence-based practitioners say that when you want to make decisions, it’s useful to look at and collect data from four key sources: relevant research, the organization, the stakeholders, professional expertise.”

“When companies try and start thinking about inclusion more broadly, . . . they’re thinking about entry-level jobs more than they’re thinking about then entire stack of jobs from leadership to entry-level.”

“Every organization has a hero story . . . that tells you who makes it—who [the organization] wants you to be. And that very much influences the culture.”

Resources:

The Element of Inclusion
30 Book Breakdown
Element of Inclusion podcast
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Contact:

Dr. Jonathan's LinkedIn
David's LinkedIn
Dwight's LinkedIn

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