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Nightly Strange Podcast - Mayor Blackwell
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Special Guest Host Doc Blackwell, we talk community, Music and Life
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SPEAKER_04It's the way to do it. You know what I'm saying? There's always a conversation before. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Nightly Strange. My name is D Makuno. Special guest in the building. The mayor himself, Mayor Blackwell, how you doing, sir? Oh man, you know. Couldn't be no better. Couldn't be no better, man.
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SPEAKER_03Yeah, I'm glad you had me. I'm glad you had me on. I'm glad you came back again. You know, I had to, man. Like I felt like I felt like I was the I was on here more times than anybody else, and I felt like I've been slacking, man. You know what I'm saying? Like I've been slacking.
SPEAKER_04I did do a whole bunch with you, right? You done one by yourself.
SPEAKER_02You did one here with heyday. I think I brought my brother one time.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, oh man, we that's an I don't remember most of those times. That's what's crazy about like not partying as much with the rest of the world. You know what I'm saying? Like this girl talking to this girl last night, she was like, Yeah, maybe you should slow down and take a break. I said, No, I've been breaking for the last like year. You know what I'm saying? Break from what? Life? Yeah, just trying to make it. You know what I'm saying? And so, man, I'm I'm so glad you came back on the show. You know what I'm saying? Like I said, it's been a minute. Um and so let me ask you a couple questions. Um you have a you you have a nonprofit, right? Doc Love the Kids. So what made you want to start that?
SPEAKER_03Um man, just giving back, man. I I think Doc Little Kids was more of a later thought. We started just giving back in like 2000, I think, 10 to start doing stuff for the community. The 2010, 2011. My uncle was really involved with the city doing uh doing stuff with the community, and we just wanted to do more, me and my family, my brothers. And um we started doing different events. 2015 is when we was when I came up with the name and got the paperwork done and did all this stuff and really started pushing it. But um, we still was just doing like little things and um it started with the backpacks, right? No, I started with the shoe, the shoe giveaway. Okay, that's what it started from. The backpacks didn't come till uh probably 17, uh 2016-17. Um, my boy Rest in peace, Nate. He um he was like, Man, you need to do a uh event where you're giving away something and you name it after yourself. And so we did Doc with the Kids Day and um Rest in Peace, Nate. Um, so yeah, he he hit his idea. That was that was from him. The backpack thing was from Nate. Nice. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I remember I was trying to tell you that you should make a video game.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I still I'm still I'm still thinking about that. I'll never forget when you told me that because when I'm when I'm making up, you're gonna have to be one of the creators of that.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, yeah. We can do it with AI now. Oh, really? Yeah, AI, man, all you do is you put in what you want it to be and they make the games for you. Yeah, because you had the whole idea and everything. I remember, I remember it. Yeah, like all the kids' supplies was stolen and stuff. You gotta go cat gather backpacks and get power.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's what people don't know, man. I mean, a lot of people don't know is that me and you've been doing this type of thing since 2016 or something like that. Yeah, so they they don't understand we was we was doing this then, and we was doing it back on cable. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_04Like we we had to move around like that, you know. Like remember City to City, man. We just going city to city. Remember that that picture posted, like I was crazy you couldn't share it, but it was the box of the CDs that you bought from Small City, Big Dreams, and I was man just looking back at that, I was just reminding me of the hustle and stuff. And that's why, you know, like honestly, like when you talk about like artists out here and shit, that's why I talk so much shit. I ain't got no mercy for them.
SPEAKER_03I I understand because even then when I when when I did that, it was we probably had like 11 artists from the Small City Big Dream Volume One. We probably had like 10 or 11 different artists on there, and they're like, Man, how we gonna make money? How we gonna make money? And I think it was one of your partners that you hooked me up with. He is he was making the CDs, 100 CDs for 100 bucks or something like that. Yeah, yeah, no, there was a there was a site we had. It was it was it was I got it from this dude first time, though. He did it, he had a um the CD burner and all that stuff that he could print up everything in his house. So I told every single artist, get you get you 100 CDs for this hundred bucks, yeah, and that's how you're gonna get your money. And so nobody did it, and then they came, they all came to my house and I had like 200 CDs getting money. So it was like, what, wait, how do we, yeah, you gotta get some money.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, man, you gotta you gotta invest in yourself. And like for me, it's like when I did music, I got so far for free. But the thing is, it's like even when they made that Kids Up County rapper list, like when they made both of them, both my rabbit names were on there. You know what I'm saying? And like when they put the old one on there, Macadoja one, I was like, damn, because you know, like even now, it's like an artist will ask me, hey, can I get an interview with you? First thing I'll do, I'll Google their name. Or I'll look them up on Spotify. If your name doesn't pop up on the first time I put it in there, you you ain't got no motion.
SPEAKER_03Or you're not not even just motion, you're not even putting, you're not even saying you're you're not even talking about yourself enough. Yeah. Because you can just talk about yourself on your page or wherever of social media enough where it's gonna pop up. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_04It's like well that too, and it's like even back in the day, bro. It's like I'm trying to put my music everywhere. So I'm I'm on SoundCloud, I'm on Audio Mac. You know what I'm saying? I'm on that pip, I'm everywhere. Like, oh, where can I upload my music?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and you're and you're networking. You're going out, going out to different places, dropping your music there. So when it's not just unheard of when you go play different cities and different states, different states, it's not unheard of. So it's like you gotta people gotta network, you know.
SPEAKER_04Well, it's that too, and it's in like the artists have to humble themselves too. It's like, yeah, okay, cool, you got you can make great music. You can do everything you need to do when you're doing it, right? But if you're not showing up on time to an event, if you're not staying the whole time until it's over, you know what I'm saying? It's not gonna work for you. If you don't have nothing to hand to anybody, yo, what are you doing? You you get on stage, you rap, people are like, that's dope, and you're like, thanks. You all you give them is adapt.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I used to I used to tell artists after you perform, I don't care how many people there, go shake hands with everybody there and let them know your name. Yeah, like if you come to any of my events or anything that I do, I'm usually at the front door shaking hands and getting that getting that right, right. No matter what anything I'm doing, I'm talking to every single person, kids, everything, I'm talking to everybody there because I want them to remember me.
SPEAKER_04I do that at the comedy show too, dude. Like my usual like, you ain't gotta stand there. I'm like, yes, I do. Yeah, that's what's part of the game. You know what I'm saying? Like, and I got something from you too. Like, because I'd be, I see you online when somebody likes your stuff or shares it, you're like, thank you, thank you. You know what I'm saying? And like a lot of people, they don't do that, you know what I'm saying, at all. They don't they don't talk to nobody online, they just post and go. And then, you know, three months later, they're like, Yeah, working at Wendy's.
SPEAKER_03I mean, I was I was talking, I forgot who I've talked to today, and I was like, man, you know, people support means a lot. You know what I'm saying? Like, so if you if you drop an album or two albums and I go buy them both, I don't expect you to do nothing for me. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I just want you to know I support you. So maybe later when I do do something, you you might support it, but that's not why I'm doing it. I'm just I share people's music just because I want to show them support.
SPEAKER_04I used to share artists' music all the time, and for a while, I would I would share everybody's stuff. Right. But then I start doing my own things, and then I have I'm having people on my show, they're not even sharing it. So I'm like, you know what? Like, if if we ain't working together together, I ain't sharing none of your music. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03You can't take it like that. I mean, you can take it however you want to, but I don't take it like that. I don't care who shares my stuff. I don't either, but it's like I'm so like if I was a rapper, it'd be different. But I'm I'm I'm who I am, I do what I do. I'm so focused on what I'm doing. Yeah, I don't even see it most of the stuff anyway. I don't even see what you what this person's doing. I don't see like like the rapper list. I probably glanced over it. I didn't care because I don't hear nothing. I don't hear no music, I don't hear nothing. I don't hear I don't hear enough where I'm like, man, it's like when you was when you was like, man, give me your top 10. I'm like, I couldn't even, I couldn't even name a top five, probably. You know, yeah, you said you only have four, right? Yeah, maybe three. You know what I'm saying? It's like I don't, I don't, I don't see it enough. I don't it's not it's not it's not on my timeline, it's not I don't see no posters around. Yeah, I don't see nothing. So I it's hard for me to say top three.
SPEAKER_04And even when I go to the shows, like you know, because I I know these artists and stuff, so you know I'll I'll scroll it on like nowadays I'm not seeing anything because of what's everything I got going on. But before, you know, I'm I'm probably rolling to their shows, but I'm realizing okay, you're posting the the flyer two days before. Or the shows announced a month ago, you post it once, and then you post it yeah, two days before the show. Then you're in there rapping to the other artists.
SPEAKER_03I mean, because wondering what happened. You know, a lot of people think that when you get on the show, you're there to game fans. You know what I'm saying? They like, man, I'm going there, I'm going to take all the fans, but ain't gonna be no fans there if you're not you're not bringing nothing to me. Yeah, I always tell people, man, don't put no artists on your flyer if they ain't bringing this many people at least.
SPEAKER_04Like, I made a list, I put a list of demands that I was gonna make people do online. You know what I'm saying? I was like, look, you're gonna have to um make three posts a week. You know what I'm saying? You're gonna have to um tell your people if if someone that you have to stay the whole time through the show, if somebody that comes with you or is one of your fans starts to fight there, you don't get paid.
SPEAKER_03Post like you posted when it was the negative shit about that um that list. Post like that. Because I've never seen so many artists jump out of nowhere posting every day, sharing this, giving their emotional feelings. Do it like that, but have that same energy for your own music. Because you go look at my you go look at anything I got going on or trying to do. I'm I'm pushing it too.
SPEAKER_04I'm I'm doing the same, dude. And like for me, it's like the the max I I do I try to do in a day is 70 posts. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03That's a lot of posts.
SPEAKER_04It's a lot of posts, it's a lot of posts, but I'm doing a lot.
SPEAKER_03Keep that up right there, you're a bad man.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, but I've been slacking, right? So I'm getting about maybe 30, maybe 40 a day. 30 and 40 is a heavy number for each page or just for all together all together, okay, right? Because let's say I'll I'll I'll have three videos in the morning for uh the web network media, right? I'm gonna post that on Facebook, I'm gonna post it on Instagram, and I'm gonna post it on TikTok, right? So that's 12 posts right there, right? You know what I'm saying? And then on top of that, I'll do the nightly strange, I'll post three times um on the on the Facebook, on the Instagram, and then you know, yeah. So you do that in the morning, do in the afternoon, do in the evening. Yeah, the whole thing is just like what do you what do you want to? You get what you you get what you put into it. That's exactly what it is.
SPEAKER_03If you post it one time, everything, everything in life is like that. You get what you pay for, you get what you put in. Everything in life is like that. That's why I always use CPR, man. That's that's like my three favorite letters. Persistent, persistent, resilient. You gotta be that way. You know, you don't I don't care if nobody likes my uh post. I don't care. Yeah, me either. It don't, it don't, that don't make nothing, that don't make no difference to me. I just need I just need you to understand that regardless of anything's going on, I'm gonna keep poking. I'm gonna keep you gonna keep it going. I'm gonna keep seeing it. You can either get you get stay or you can get out. Yep. Every year about this time, this is happening. We know that for sure. Ain't no questions, just need to know the date. That's the only thing. Every year we're gonna be so consistent that it's like it's stuck in your brain. Yeah, that's why I was happy when the um when we got Doc Little the Kids Day was solidified. I was like, we was gonna push that anyway. We was gonna push this like it was 4th of July, anyways. You know what I'm saying? So how does that feel getting a day named after you in the city? Uh it felt good, you know. It felt good. My mom was there when he when he uh told me that he was gonna do it, you know, Narry told me he was gonna do it. My mom was there, so it felt it felt cool because she know when I was younger, I was like, I'm I'm gonna get the key to the city. Wherever city we are, I'm gonna get the key to the city. So it was it was it was it was smooth.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. So I mean, I I don't want to bring up your past, right? Go ahead, but you know what I'm saying? Like, we we destroyed the city, you know what I'm saying? Or I mean we things happened in life, you know what I'm saying? How was it to to sit back and just transition from like the life you had before to wanting to fix the community?
SPEAKER_03Honestly, bro, it's it's almost the same thing, you know what I'm saying, except for the negative stuff, you know what I'm saying? But it's almost the same thing building teams, building uh brotherhood, and pushing what we push on the line, we pushing. Yeah, and now we just we're pushing it this way now, you know what I'm saying? So it's like it's it's almost the same thing to me. Like, I do the same stuff, except for the negative stuff. I do all I do all the same stuff.
SPEAKER_04It's the same hustle, it's just a different hustle. Exactly. Remember, remember the time we interviewed those guys from Tri-Cities? Yeah, my guy. Yeah, yeah, they was cool. They was like, look, man, we decided, look, they were selling, they were selling crack and dope and all that stuff, and they said, you know, we're gonna stop cold turkey. You know what I'm saying? What up, Wes?
SPEAKER_03Destroy the community. It's wild, it's wild.
SPEAKER_04You talking about uh rabbits, uh yeah, but they were like, look, we're gonna stop, we're gonna stop selling drugs flat. And they're like, we're just gonna focus on hip hop, and it worked for them, right? You know what I'm saying? Because they just took that that mindset, and it's weird to watch a lot of people out here, they never grow up.
SPEAKER_03You know, the easiest thing to do is say fuck it. That's the easy thing to do is say fuck it. I don't care. That's the easiest thing to do. You know what I'm saying? Because that's what we did as you know, people did as as child as children, you young people. The easiest thing to do is say fuck it or give up. That's the easiest thing to do. It is, it is, you know what I'm saying? So it's like once you figure out that life's still gonna keep moving, no matter how you act or where you living at, then you understand you gotta put your big boy pants on and get to work.
SPEAKER_04Well, it's crazy. A lot of us, you know, people don't, I guess they don't see it. You we build our own worlds around us, no matter what it is. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, shout out VZ. VZ what it does sometimes the world that we create for ourselves isn't what we want. And people are a lot of people are scared to change, just like you know, like at the church, you know what I'm saying? They don't want to put up black Jesus, right? Just saying, like, you know, people that are gangbanging, they're still in their 30s, late 40s, you know what I'm saying, still thugging because they don't they they they fear the change.
SPEAKER_03They fear and you know, you you get you get you know, you get kickback from your friends and people who around you. Um, oh, you you this now, you that now. Um I'm the same as I always was, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_04There was a rapper recently, um, he was a young dude, but he came out and said that he was like, Look, man, I stopped, I was, I was blown up, and now he's like, I stopped making that kind of music because I was destroying my community. Right. He's like, and then my friends looked at me differently. They were saying, Oh, I changed, you know, I'm a buster now, woundy woundy wound, but he saved himself, right? You know what I'm saying? And I feel like it's it's it's kind of a it's kind of crazy how that it's backwards now. Like when you hear conscious rappers, people like that's just boo-boo. Right. And I'm like, but that's what it's supposed to be, right? You know what I'm saying? It ain't supposed to be all this, you know, whatever they're trying to pump on the as propaganda in the streets. Right. I hear what you're saying. I mean, there's a time and place for it. I mean, I like me some Project Pat.
SPEAKER_03I mean, you gotta music is man, music is like an outlet, you know what I'm saying? It's like people's uh like a book, like writing a book. It ain't always real, you know. Sometimes just something it's an idea you had or something, and music is the same way to me. That's why any artist I ever dealt with, I've never said make a song like this, or yeah, or maybe one day we'll be sitting there, I'll be like, hey, you should see, but I'll never push them to do anything, I'll never change nothing like this. This is your music.
SPEAKER_04So we're gonna we're gonna get into nonprofit stuff, but like you've been doing music for man. We we've been we work together on music and stuff, and you've had a lot of artists come through your stable, yeah. And so, what kind of stopped them from hitting the next plateau?
SPEAKER_03To be honest, I just think you know, people people want to go their own ways and be their own man, you know. They uh a narrative is that I am like Suge Knight. You know what I'm saying? That's the narrative, but he's like Suge Knight. He controls this, he pushes this, he does that. Oh, I just push the artist. I I don't even a lot of artists that I've dealt with. I I'm I wasn't even a fan of the music like that, but I know they was hardworking. I know that I can push their face and their image to people, and I just did that. I just did what I did. That's why um a lot of the artists that I have dealt with did pretty good. You know what I'm saying? They did very well. I believe, you know what I'm saying? Sometimes you believe more than they believe, you know what I'm saying? And and that happens too. And and I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't have any ill will towards anybody because I'm gonna keep doing what I'm doing. And and I was doing it then, I'm that's just what it is. Yeah, and and when you do something over a certain amount of time, either people gonna like it or love it. Yeah, and they just they starting to love it. So that's just what it is. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04I'm glad you put yourself to the forefront because we used to talk about that. You'd be like, nah, man, I'm gonna be in the back, I'm gonna be in the back. I was like, nah, doc, you the face. Yeah, everybody coming to see you, yeah. The DOC. So you have a bunch of nonprofits. I mean, like uh recently.
SPEAKER_02Hey Day, my bad. What's up, heyday? Oh, hold on. Yeah, my bad. I'm I see my guy over there. What's up with it? Hey, they in the building.
SPEAKER_03Like, hey theyy they been there, hey they been there, like you know, hey they been there for a minute. He'd been around. I saw heyday, hey, they knows that we used to take I used to take five or six artists and we just go to different cities and just and just and and and shoot videos, yeah. Places nobody ever, you know, we never been. Seven or eight girls in the videos, nobody knows where they came from.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I remember the one time you couldn't leave the city, couldn't leave the couldn't leave the city. Couldn't leave the city. So me, Lou, um gosh, what was his name? I just saw him the other day. Fuck. It was no fox. Yeah, phase. Yeah, phase? No, no, no, no. It was um laner, um oh ganja, yeah, ganja, yeah, ganja. And so yeah, we're in the back. It's ganja and someone else is in the back. They're drinking Hennessy and the models is in the car. We're waiting on getting the bill. Oh, that's what we did. No thought, yeah, no thought, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I remember you was just like, Yeah, man, I was like, I got one hand pipe.
SPEAKER_03I booked the whole I booked the everything, the B and you, the the girls, the the the uh videographer. But let it let let artists tell it. Tell it it's different, but you know, that's just the way it goes.
SPEAKER_04Well, I mean, the whole thing, the whole thing I'm I'm I mean, I'm gonna speak on it. I know you can't, but like the whole thing you were just telling artists is like, look, I'm doing everything to push you to where you need to be. All you have to do look the part, play the part, look the part, play the part, get on live, comment with people. But then people got cocky, you know what I'm saying? Like, oh, I'm a star because I'm Bremerton famous, but being Bremerton famous is only gonna get you so far.
SPEAKER_03That's it, and then it's not gonna get you like that's you know, artists will say that now. Oh, they oh, you just want to be Bremerton famous. Like, what does that even mean? You know what I'm saying? What does being Bremerton famous mean? Unless you, you know, I mean, I'm Bremerton famous. I try not, I'll try not to be, I try to be humble, man. Yeah, you know, I try to be humble because I'm a grown man. Yeah, I don't I don't need to do all that. It's it's it's already it's already written, you know what I'm saying? I don't have to do all that, so I just I just wish artists, man, and people would believe in themselves more because McDonald's is a billion billion dollar company and they have five to ten commercials on every day at least. So if they pushing their stuff like that, maybe you should too, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_04And so easy too. It's like, you know, I mean, like you'll see somebody just post all day about some random stuff, random stuff, but they don't they'll post their music once. I think it's just fear of rejection for them. Who cares? Right? That's how I look like I know I had that myself. I was like, man, I don't, you know, for a minute, like because first, you know, back in the day, we was I was going crazy. I've seen you post. I'm like, Oh, I'm gonna post two more times, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm trying to get you, I'm trying to battle now. I gotta catch back up, you know what I'm saying? Too late now, brother. I'm beating your brother, you know what I'm saying? But I gotta tear you up, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03He's getting there though, man. I'll I'll call him every morning and talk mess to him. Get out of here, bro. You mess with him. Damn, he's on that bullshit, bro.
SPEAKER_04Anyway, so the Juneteenth block party, right? Oh, it's gonna be cracking. So you had the first one, yeah. We got the first one at the village. The village, and that was that was cracking. That was beautiful, that was a beautiful event. Yeah, and so this time it's over at Quincy Square, right? Quincy Square, yeah. And then you guys just had the black. Were you part of the black market today?
SPEAKER_03No, but my guy, he put it together and um he did a dope job, man. Uh, Mike, Mike did a dope job. Yeah, Mike's a good dude. Shout out to Mike. Super solid, man. Yeah. Um, his son sells the uh the merch, the hoodies. I got the hoodie at the house, but yeah, the black market was dope. I think I think he's doing a pop-up store next month in June. I think the whole month of June is right on Quincy Square, too. I think I don't I'm pretty sure it is, but um They're gonna give you a whole month. He got a whole month. He'll have a pop-up shop, all black um um products in there, everything.
SPEAKER_04Nice. I mean, it was cool. I liked it. You know, they had the one lady's uh were they square dancing.
SPEAKER_03They was they was doing their thing, yeah.
SPEAKER_04They was killing it. There was a couple of them in there. Yeah, there was some there was some some baddies out there. I there was not not even dancing. I don't know. I'm looking around people come from. I was calling at the one lady, she works uh at the uh what's it called, the farmer's market. Out here, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03I ain't never seen her before a day in my life. It's a cup, man. You know, this out here, man. You know, you just gotta get out there and go go see what's going on. Like, like I'll be i i meet my women at the grocery store. Like like the Juneteenth event. This this next one coming up this year in a couple in a month. This would be crazy. Yeah, and we're doing it on um Quincy Square because it don't make no sense to do it nowhere else. So every year from now on, Quincy Square and Juneteenth will be it will be held in Quincy Square from every year from now on, you know what I'm saying? So and it's on a Friday, right? That's any day it's on. We do it, yeah.
SPEAKER_04As long as it's on the 19th, we're doing it on the yeah, this year it's on the the 19th, yeah. Because we have a comedy show on the 18th, right? I was like, we should do it on the 19th, but it's whatever, you know what I'm saying? Man, the whole week from the 12th to the 19th is gonna be Juneteenth celebration. I just feel black folks should take Juneteenth the whole week off, anyways.
SPEAKER_03Man, I I'm I'm trying my hardest, man. I everybody go tag the mayor and tell him we need fireworks for our for our uh Juneteenth event this year. We need fireworks too. It's like the fourth of July. Yeah, it's our fourth of July.
SPEAKER_04It's it's it's people don't realize that like we're celebrating real freedom, yeah. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03Like there's the fourth of July is independence, and we and we still fighting for it, but you know, that's another whole nother story. We're still fighting for the freedom that we're supposed to be celebrating right now, yeah. And and and I can see it every day, every day. Like people like, oh, you you run into race. I run into racism every single day of the five. That's every day.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I went to I went to uh what you meant, all-star lanes, bro. They the the the lady helped the guy in front of us, and I'm with my daughter. The guy moves, she looks at us, and then dips off and then comes around the back. And so I'm like, whatever, I'm not thinking of it because I'm at a little birthday party, and then the guy takes our order. Cool, we go sit down, we're watching people bowl. 40 minutes rolls by. My daughter's like, Where's the food at? I go over there, I'm like, I'll go with the dude. He's like, Oh, he looks, he touches the receipt. He just, I'm like, Oh, okay. He's like, You want me to put it in a box for you? And I'm like, What? And you want to give it to me in the back? I was like, nah, just give my money back.
SPEAKER_00That's crazy, you know.
SPEAKER_04I'm saying, but I should have known when I walked in, they had nothing but the baseball games on. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Not a single NBA playoff game. I was like, we sitting there watching on the phone. I was like, but you know, there's certain places out here you can't go. I wouldn't, I don't like to go.
SPEAKER_03And there's certain places I do like to go. Yeah, I'm going everywhere. Man, I I feel like they every single building, every single door, everybody they need to know my name. That's how I feel. I'm going. Anybody who asks me to come, I'm going. I talk, I sp I spoke in front of the um Silverdale C Bag women's Republic, Republican um women. I uh you know, it was a little different, but I met some people in there that I that I I still talk to now. You know what I'm saying? So it's like I'm going anywhere. I don't care what's going on.
SPEAKER_04Like the crazy thing about the world is that the thing, the three things that divide us is race, religion, and politics. And some people's politics. Politics ain't as extreme.
SPEAKER_03Well they let they let politics divide us, though. They let that divide. Because that's a better way instead instead of saying you black, that's why I don't want to be around you. I can say this now. That's something people let they like that. They like that. That's the excuse to me. That's why I don't talk politics, man. Like, even though I talk about running for mayor all the time, like I'm gonna be, I would be a different type. You know what I'm saying? I'm already doing the footwork right now to for the community and get and get involved with the community and going, I'm door knocking already. You know what I'm saying? So it's like I'm just I'm not into all the back and forth. Let's get this job done. That's it.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. So if you if you were to become mayor, like or to run for mayor, what would you run on? What you mean? Like what was something what's something you would want to change in the city or fix?
SPEAKER_03Education for us. To be real, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't I focus man, I feel like if we if we focus on our babies, I feel like that's gonna change everything for the future. We focus on the babies, we get them straight and get their minds right. I feel like that's gonna change everything for the future, anyways. And and that's why that's why doctor the kids focusing on the babies. We focus on the youngest ones. We if we can get them angled straight where where they're thinking, where they're thinkers, because I mean, like I say, saying fuck it is the easiest thing to do. It is, but if you can if you can steer them away from that, like fucking is the last thing I'm gonna do. You know what I'm saying? So that's what I that's that's what I think. That's just me though. Um you and my bro, y'all more yo, you know, I might have y'all be part of my campaign team. I'm not gonna be up there talking all that bush. I'm not gonna go back and forth with nobody, I'm not gonna be doing all this other stuff. I'm a I'm a I'm I'm a problem solver, yeah. So that's what I'm gonna do. Yeah, but you might have to debate. I don't they don't even have many year old debates. I'm not debate nothing. I'm telling you right now because what are you gonna debate against me? That that the change that I'm trying to make is wrong? I'm not because I'm not gonna tell you what you're saying is wrong. Yeah, hey, that sounds good to me.
SPEAKER_04Well, that's kind of the same thing, you know. It's crazy, it's like you know, I I talked to Tracy, uh Judge Tracy, Judge Flood. I love Tracy, yeah. I do too. Like, you know, saying her and my son, the um, you know, yeah, you've seen the NAACP thing. Yeah, I was the judge. I was the judge. Yes, sir. And so the crazy thing is, like, we interviewed her and she was talking, she was like, Look, the reason the city don't like me is because I'm messing up the money. Because instead of her just throwing everybody in jail, she's like, There, she's like, There's all these programs that are here with funding that you can take these people and send them to, so you're not just sending them back in the streets to commit more crimes. And the people in the city didn't, they wanted the status quo. Well, you know, the the we were the we were that before.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that was us. They wasn't giving like I did a program called Drug Court in 2015. That's when I couldn't leave the city. I remember that, I remember that. And I didn't know about that until I was a grown-ass man. These, but in this program, it's 19-year-old kids, 20-year-old kids, it's but they're not like they don't look like me. So I'm like, man, they just don't give us the opportunity. They wait. They like, hey, send him to prison, send him there first, yeah, and then we'll we'll help him later. Nah, you gotta help everybody from the beginning, from the young, and give everybody the same chance.
SPEAKER_04I feel like the city eats us eats its children alive, basically. That's a harsh word, but you know, I was I was talking to my daughter about it, and I was like, you know, when I was a kid, we just you know, when you're a kid, you either run the streets at night, you hang out in the park, you sit in someone's car, you do whatever you like, you drink, you do drugs, because there's nothing for us. I remember one night we were out here and there was something something going, it was something crazy was happening in the streets, and so we're like, yo, let's go inside somewhere and just go hang out. So we go to the YMCA. The YZMCA is like, Well, you gotta pay money to get in here, but like, we don't have any money, we're just we want to be somewhere safe, and they're like, Well, we can't let you in. And I was like, All right, so we ran the streets, right?
SPEAKER_03Right, man. That's it. That's that's a that's a challenge, though. We gotta we gotta build thinkers, yeah. You know what I'm saying? We gotta build these kids to be thinkers. Like when I even when I talk to the elementary school kids, them kids are smarter than a lot of adults I know. Yeah, you know, they you can see them thinking, you can see it, you can see it turning. So it's like we just gotta keep keep beating up, keep beating, beating it in their heads.
SPEAKER_04Well, ignorance is bliss as an adult.
unknownYeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04I look at some stuff, I'm like, eh, eh, you know, I'm gonna keep on going. Actually, no, I can't even think like that no more.
SPEAKER_03We've we our kids, our kids and young people are being raised by TikTok. I've never seen so many ideas, people come to me from TikTok. I'm like, bro, use your head. Get off, get off of that. Use your head, use your brain, it's gonna work. Just just use your brain.
SPEAKER_04Well, they don't have to anymore. Think think about this. Like when we were kids, say you're sitting there waiting for the bus, right? There's nine people at the bus stop waiting for you. Either people are reading newspapers or you're staring off and just thinking about stuff, or talking to someone next to you. Yeah, yeah. And nowadays it's just you're in your phone. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? You're arguing with people, you're liking stuff, you're making your own content, so we don't have those interactions. And now you can kind of see it like even like on the on the web's network media, that's what's going on. I was telling Wes, that's what's going on right now. Because people can't afford to travel as much. You know what I'm saying? Gas is more expensive, it costs more to go out, it costs more to do things so more people are at home. So now it's going back to like covet status where it's like an uptick on people on social media, right? And they're getting more crazier and stuff.
SPEAKER_03I mean, that's why I mean TV, everything, it's all social media, everything's about social media. Everything. I'm mad about TV. That's why that's why they're that's why they're trying to pay you more to be on there. Be on there more, be on there more. Trying to pay you, be on there more, do this more, give us some more content because really we're the TV now. We are the TV, we are the commercials, we are the TV. That's that's us now. We are the shows. So it's like they just you don't have to come up with an idea for a whole TV show. We can just watch D Macuno on go live on this shit. That's that's our new TV show.
SPEAKER_04Well, that's what someone was saying, too.
SPEAKER_03They're like, but it's also creating more uh uh people, you know, thinkers. I I'll give it that too. It's also creating more people who come up with ideas and thinking and doing and it'll also come up with a whole bunch of dumb shit, too. But it's you know, it's just a mix. You see, they're making a new jackass movie. Anybody got a voice, it gives anybody a voice, even people who need to don't need to be heard still being heard.
SPEAKER_04Well, you know, it's crazy. It's like all those people that have those weird talents, they're actually making a living online now. It's like I watch this lady sometimes, I follow her, I'm not gonna lie, and she does hula hoops, right? You know what I'm saying? Just crazy things with hula hoops, and I'm just like 15 years ago, ain't no idea about that. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03Like OnlyFans. I mean, it's it's a lot of talent on there as well. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, people there's only fans and talent on there as well. There's no talent.
SPEAKER_04That's that that didn't make it. It's a talent, bro. No, it's not you know it's crazy on Instagram. I'll be telling my homegirl, you should get on there. She's like, No, I don't want to use my body. And I'm like, but look at bro, he says education, job growth.
SPEAKER_02What'd he say? Down, down, down, down.
SPEAKER_00I'm uh no, keep going one more.
SPEAKER_04Education, job growth, proper police. That's why he's gonna be that's that's gonna be my guy right there.
SPEAKER_03That's why he's gonna be the one. I'm gonna be talking to him, I'm gonna have an earpiece in, he's gonna be the one talking to my ear. What'd you say, VZ? The hood never he said, yeah. So absolutely, yeah, absolutely. And that's what we're trying to do. We're trying to get an opportunity, or at least open the door and be like, hey, introduce somebody to somebody who knows somebody, you know. So that's that's what we try to do, man. Honestly, is be a be the connect.
SPEAKER_04Hell yeah. And so you got a couple events coming. I mean, like, you're doing a lot. I remember I remember, you know, when I came and got a backpack from you, right? A couple times. I remember you slinging them out the house. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03When you first started, that's you know, that's just like, man, like a backpack and school supplies for a kid. Sometimes that's that's like 80 bucks, you know what I'm saying? For all that. And if you ain't got to pay that, you can that's another pair of shoes for the kid, or that's another, and that's and that's just what it's about. And and people who be too, you know, too proud to to um go get a backpack. Okay, don't worry about the backpack. Just come enjoy the rest of the stuff we got going on. Go enjoy the rest of the stuff. So let the kids come have fun. We're trying to make it like a like the fair, you know what I'm saying? We want to make it like the fair, but free. Everything's free though. You come there, you can eat free, play free, let the kids run around for two, three hours. And and and if you need a backpack, it's there. If you don't need one, don't worry about it. And that's dope to do, man, because the fair is expensive. Man, it it's so expensive, bro, that it made me want to do my event on the same weekend as the fair every year. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, I'm just gonna do this, and one day it's gonna be as big as the fair. You know, we're gonna have rides, we'll have some pet, uh, some some uh anecdotes. Yeah, you know, we're gonna have a whole bunch of stuff there one of these days. But you know, we we're working on it still. You could probably just buy the ride yourself. There's always something buying no ride. I don't need I don't use them enough to buy. You know what I'm saying? I don't use them enough to buy like some of the biggest.
SPEAKER_01I'm like, why is that roller coaster in your backyard now? Mind your business. You should buy, you should buy the bouncy. I was like, you see the work they do to put these big old. I don't want to do that.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, no, you just rent them. I'll just rent them. Yeah, no, I feel you. That's a lot of work. Then you gotta store them, you gotta clean them. Man, take them down, put them up. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_02Some kid gets swallowed in one, you gotta even pay for it. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Look at VZ, yeah. VZ know I'm talking about it. It's a talent, brother. OnlyFans is a talent, I'm trying to tell you.
SPEAKER_03What's so? But yeah, man, I'm just I'm just we just want to make we just want to make the city, you know, a little easier, you know, give uh more people a chance. Because it's a lot of it's a lot of grant um um it's a lot of opportunities for kids in school to get money for after school, you know, for when they get out of school. So it's a lot of they just don't know about it. So I'm hearing all these, I'm hearing about all these different um um opportunities for them. And I'm just I'm shooting it to people I know. The kid graduates, I'm shooting to you, I'm shooting you the information. So that's just that's another part of it, is getting the information to people who need it. That's why we're doing these pop-up shops all July and August. Um, where we're taking all the resources, every resource that we feel like anybody needs. We go into the apartment complexes and we're gonna we're gonna set up music, we're gonna have free food, and people just come out and just and and I remember you mentioned you did that before too, because you was like, you was like, I'm gonna bring it to them.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that's what you're doing right in the front door. Yeah, yeah. And that's pretty dope too.
SPEAKER_03Because you know, a lot of people don't have the resources to get around out here. And and and not even that. Yeah, that's that's the big one right there, the resources or the time. I can't leave my kids here. Well, we're gonna pull up right into your apartment complex and bring your kids out. We got stuff for you and that. So we just we just want to make it, we want to make it easier. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? We want, we want, I'm playing the music so loud that when you look out your window, you're gonna smell the barbecue, you're gonna come out. Now you now you got maybe you maybe you behind them uh your electric bill. PSC might be there to help you right there. Or maybe you might need a job. We might have the job people right there to sign you up for the um application right there. We we we bring in the resources right to your neighborhood, right to where you at. And it's the people who they say needed the most. So we bringing it right to them.
SPEAKER_04You know it's crazy, like a lot of like the status quo, they won't do that for everybody. Because they, you know, they're just like someone's pointed out, they're like, look, they put all this money into homelessness, right? But if they fixed homelessness, all these people wouldn't have a job.
SPEAKER_03Bro, it it's it's I won't say that. So when we did it, we did it not the gosh year, but the year before, and uh Molina Healthcare was, you know, we had a bunch of people who like, this is what we need to do. We need to do more of this. Now, how can we help you? So this year we're doing it with the Kids Out Regional Library. That's who we joined forces with, and we're doing it with them because they see the need for this. They see the need, not just that, just to make everybody feel inclusive, too, included too. You know, like we want everybody to feel like, hey, you're not a burden, you're not a problem. We're gonna bring this to you. We we understand that you got three kids at the house, you gotta work two jobs, we understand that. So we're gonna bring it right to your front door. Yeah, all you gotta do is come outside.
SPEAKER_04Man, that's dope too. Because you know, a lot of people, they're just like I said, man, it's hard to get around out here. If you ain't got a car, you're walking on the side of the road or somewhere, or yeah, it's just like in a lot of people are struggling right now because the pay out here doesn't match, unless you work for the shipyard, transit, or um on banger, you ain't making enough, right? You know what I'm saying? And it's it's it's getting worse for people too. And I'm wondering, have you gotten any pushback from like community people that are already um like established, like you know, that are already like you know, working in Norm Sticks buildings or anything like that? Have anybody give me any pushback or um not pushback?
SPEAKER_03I had a couple people like, hey, um, you know, like inform us of when you're doing your events, so we don't do them on the same day, stuff like that. You mean yeah, they tell me people say all the time, so I usually have my events already done the whole year, so you you you need to do it around minds, you know what I'm saying? But other than that, we're not doing we're not in the same places, you know what I'm saying? Like a lot of these lot of uh these different organizations or um, like you said in Normandic's building, they're not going to where we're going. Yeah, they're not talking to the people. I mean, I've been to resource fairs that was only people there was the people with the resources. They're talking to each other, you know what I'm saying? Like we we need the people to be there, so we don't go to the people. And a lot of people scared to do that or don't want to waste their time doing that, or whatever the reason is. Or it doesn't seem like they put their events on the bus line. We're going to to the people, yeah. You know what I'm saying? We're going where it's at. So it's like, I know, I know um it's gonna be your slogan for the people. I mean, we just we just, you know, bring it to right to your front door, brother. That's that's what we always did. Even when we was younger, we brought it right to your front door. So that's what we're doing.
SPEAKER_04And so what what events do you have still um kind of you're gonna be doing this year?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, we got a bunch. Um first of all, um what May 29th, we're doing a fundraiser for my boy Robert Holder. You know, he's he's um he's going through some stuff in his family. So we're doing a fundraiser at the village on May 29th. It's going down. I need everybody there. What's up, Devin? What's up, my brother? Ash Black, what's poppin'? I see you. Um May 30th. Um they gonna they got me speaking with um Kingdom of Ministry. We're gonna do Kingdom Assignment Ministry. We're gonna do um, it's called You Good, bro. So it's like a it's like a men's summit. So that's May 30th. So May 29th, we're doing the fundraiser for my boy Robert. May 30th, we're doing uh the men's summit, you good bro, and then um June 5th, um we're doing the celebration of philanthropic philanthropy for the kids app community reef kids up community foundation. Man, just a lot of stuff going on. We having fun, man. And and and and it's like people like, man, you're doing so much. I'm like, I'm not doing enough. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_02Um I wrote this stuff down because I'll be forgetting.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you good. I got my board right here. Yeah, June 19th, you know, Juneteenth for sure, July 14th, 17th, and 22nd, August 1st, and August 4th. We popping up in different um apartment complexes. So we just we staying busy, bro. That's that's all we're doing. We staying busy. Doc Little the Kids Day on the 22nd of August, uh the 23rd. We're doing the first annual Bremerton Hip Hop Festival with my boy Rob. Rob Direct, you know. So we just we just trying to push the envelope out in our city, man, and put some paint where it ain't. Yeah. So I I want to ask you about the the hip hop festival. Yeah, how did that come about? Um, I don't, I don't, I just know Robert, man. Uh I keep calling it Robert Direct, you know. He just he just he been he's been wanting to push something, he been wanting to do something in the city. He loved the city, he been wanting to do something. He called me one day and we chopped it up, and he's like, Man, I want to do something, Doc. I want to do something. I'm like, man, do it here. Yeah. And he did it and made it happen, got the date, and did it. He's doing his Dougie right now. And I'm I'm I'm supporting whatever he with because I like what he's doing. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, this is this is something that could be every year for for the duration if we do it right. If he, you know, not if he do it right, when he do it right. Yeah, it's gonna be something every year for the duration, and the city gonna get behind it. I already talked to a couple people in the city, and they I even tell him because my logo's on it, but this is his thing. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I'm just gonna do my part, you know, the community part. But I'm I'm sitting somewhere and I'm talking to the mayor, and he's like, Hey, I heard there's gonna be hip hop in Bremerton. I never mentioned it. So I'm like, okay, we gotta we gotta really push this right here. So because it's it's really push, it's that's that's unheard of.
SPEAKER_04It is, it is. And you know, and the DJ, I don't know if you guys seen it, because you know, people, hip hop artists and kids out county don't be online like that for some reason. They're too cool for it. But he said, Hey, if you have clean music, send it in.
SPEAKER_03You know, and that's the thing, like we want we I we want the artists to be able to express themselves, but we want you to be able to express yourself. Like it's gonna be kids there, it's gonna be people who maybe first time hearing hip hop or maybe ain't used to hip hop in the city, so it's gonna be it's it's gotta be it's gotta be regulated.
SPEAKER_04Well, it's all about like what kind of career do you want in music, anyways? You know, it's like if you don't make your music right and then you make a clean track to it, how far do you think you're gonna go? Like, where do you want your music to be played? In your homeboy's house forever or in a baseball stadium?
SPEAKER_03That's probably my hardest thing dealing with any artist ever was to I used to tell them, hey man, make your music the way you make it, but make me a clean track to go with. So you send me the music, send me a clean one too. And that's the hardest thing I ever had to deal with. Like I've never had somebody do it.
SPEAKER_04Really? Never, bro. You know what's crazy? Like I when I got cussy on my kids, I was like, I knew I couldn't cuss in front of them. You know what I'm saying? So I made like six albums clean. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. After that, they became teenagers, they deal with it. I'm like, I'm going back to my old ways, but like, yeah, just it's it's easy, you know what I'm saying? Excuse my language, but people use the word nigga in a rap as a crutch, right? Because you can excuse you, you can hear my stomach rum. I should have brought the food. You get, yeah, but you I mean, you ain't gotta cuss in your music, right?
SPEAKER_03And and it's and your artists, you know. And to me, rappers are some of the best people with words, like they can get up in front of the TV and just talk about stuff, like VZ, for instance. I said, VZ, man, I need you to host my uh my gala. And he was like, He, I ain't never did that. I said, I got him up there, and it was just natural to him because he got away with words, and that's just that's just what artists do. So I know that you can make an edited song easy, easy, and it and it has the same effect that it has the same energy, yeah. So it's always like it's something you got, it's something you gotta do.
SPEAKER_04Well, it's all about where do you want to be? Do you want you want them to play your music in a uh in a movie? You know what I'm saying? Or do you want to? I mean, like they're better they're not even playing music out here in the nightclubs, like but like Vince Staples said that he was like, Look, man, I took my music and I started doing this and this with it because now they're putting it in movies, now they're playing it at festivals, now they're putting it, you know, at basketball games. Yeah, it's all about how far you want to go as an artist. Like, you could be like, any artist that says I want to do this for the streets, you're playing yourself. Hold on. Shout out to Sin, man. What's up with him? Unfortunately, mad respect. Yeah, he says, Never got to work with Doc, unfortunately, but mad respect what he does in the city. Thank you, Sin.
SPEAKER_03Sin, I fuck with Sin's. Yeah, I like Sin's music. Yeah, I remember you you um peeped me on the list music some years ago.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, sin, all he needs to start doing is making music videos. That dude be a star. Man, or yeah, pretty dude.
SPEAKER_03Just push, just push, just push, just push. Just don't feel like you overdoing it. Don't feel like you're over pushing yourself, man. Like I like I said.
SPEAKER_04You gotta feel like you're not doing enough.
SPEAKER_03Like I said, when you when you up all day, if you watch TV for 24 hours, how many McDonald's commercials, Burger King commercials, do you see? And they have they are, like I said, a billion billion dollar companies, you know. They push themselves so much. You guys should too, bro. You guys should too. Ash Black. Ash Black, what's popping? Oh man, I gotta clean. Yeah, I know. VZ, you one of the you one of the people I'm talking about, VZ. V and VZ is probably no joke. And this ain't just because it's my partner. That's right. Because VZ Lions End is me, you know, we the we the head in the body, you know, we the head in the body. We all that. That's that's us. But you know, he comes to me with stuff like let's do this. All right, run it, let's run it. So he's the main person I'm talking about. But as far as artists, really, like as far as making music and the you know, people's like, man, you should do you should have VZ do a um versus versus this this person, this person. And I'm humble person, and I'm like, Yeah, we good. But and to be honest, yeah, if if somebody wants to do a uh versus versus him, I need an RB singer, I need two rappers, maybe two RB singers, because VZ got enough RB and rap to battle three or four people, bro, yeah, at one time. You know what I'm saying? And and bangers, all all he, and I and I'm about and I'm I'll stand behind that. I'll put a I got a couple bucks I could put on that. You know what I'm saying? I think we I I'd like to see that. I'm I'm just saying, I'm just saying that that'd be hard. But it'll be hard because nobody wants to be one of the three people going against this one person. I'm just saying though, that's just me talking. Yeah, uh, doc, that he got enough RB rap to battle two or three people at one time. That's just that's just being real. And how many artists do you still have online?
SPEAKER_04What are you talking about? Let's see. Give us some backstory.
SPEAKER_03But yeah, man, that what'd you say about Lions Dan?
SPEAKER_04How many artists do you still have on the state?
SPEAKER_03We don't we don't do it like that no more. Like I said, me and VZ, we the we the you know, we the head and the body, you know what I'm saying? So it's like we just rocking right now. Right now, it's me and VZ, bro. We the artists on Lions Dan. You don't you don't have Lady Dice? Lady Dice, that's that's the homegirl, but she she she always was her own thing. I was just managing her, yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's the homegirl. Like we still rock heavy right now. We you know, matter of fact, on uh May 29th, the fundraiser for my boy Robert, BZ and Lady Dice is performing there. You know what I'm saying? So May 29th at the village. Um, come uh show some love. It's a fundraiser for my boy. Uh family week. We he going through some shit, and we and we got his back. So BZ and Lady Dice gonna be up to perform doing their thing, and I'm gonna push that show. So I'm gonna try to make sure that shit's packed in that bitch.
SPEAKER_04May 29th, right? And so at the village. That's this month, yeah.
SPEAKER_03It's next week. So, what's going on with Robert? He's just going through some stuff, you know. You know, nothing that we need to put out there, but you know, hit him up. You know, I'm hitting him up, but uh, we just want to help however we can because our first briskets and brews, Robert's the one that bought us the trophy for it. You know what I'm saying? Robert was the one that's doing when we did the backpack event for the first time. Uh, we we ran out of backpacks. Robert and a couple of his boys, big old bikers, they got pink backpacks on green pack. They they went and bought more backpacks. So this is my guy, you know what I'm saying? And and and whatever he needs, we're gonna rock with it. So and that's community right there. That's what it is, and that's what and you know, you see me next standing next to him, you're like, ah, these guys ran.
SPEAKER_04You know what I'm saying? You know what's crazy? I'll say that like an old lady, I'll see her like reaching for something at the store and she can't get in. I'll grab it for her, or I'll help somebody, and they'll be like, Oh, thank you. They're shocked that it, you know, someone helped them. I was like, man, we're a community out here, you know what I'm saying? Don't and it's crazy how in Kit Sap County, we may beef and argue about some stuff, but like we're we're kind of you know, we're we're letting outside influences out the outside influence us, you know what I'm saying? We live in a military town. Is it racist? Of course, man. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03But I I think I I think I don't think we let outsiders, as far as music and stuff like that, we let them influence our music and stuff. But I don't think we let them. I know as far as when I was younger and some of the guys now that we could have we couldn't be at each other's heads, but we go somewhere and and somebody from outs out of town getting at them, now we friends. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, I don't know, man. I just think I just think the city, man, everybody just just leave fuck it out your leave fuck it, and I don't care, leave that shit out your out your mind and just you can believe you can do it.
SPEAKER_04You know, and everybody I've interviewed, all they all the artists said the same thing, you know what I'm saying? They were like, nobody wants to join together, crabs in a barrel, you know what I'm saying? Like, and then the like of the the newer artists, they were like, Look, I ain't never heard of none of these old dudes on the list.
SPEAKER_03But even even then, right? So like if I'm at the gym and I see a bunch of people I know playing basketball, but you mediocre, I ain't gonna be on your team, even if I love you. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, I don't want him on my team, I'm picking him last. So I understand everybody ain't on the same level. So that's why that's why everybody's gonna I'm gonna take my homie that's not good and play on his strength. I'm not doing that, bro. I'm trying to win in here, I'm trying to run this game back. We're gonna win using his strengths.
SPEAKER_04Actually, you know what? No, that that's what's fucked me up in the long run.
SPEAKER_03Now, if you have to take him, then we do that because I I used to coach kids basketball, and some kids are being forced to play basketball when you when you when you be kids, and you have to that's when you have to work on those strengths. But as far as adults, nah, bro, you go find the best team and you put it together, you know, that's what you do.
SPEAKER_04You open that door, read it, let her out. Don't worry, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, yeah. So run it, yeah. Let's run it. So let me ask you this. Um, if an artist was interested in having you as their manager, what do they need to come to you? What do they have to have on the table before they can approach you? I'm good.
SPEAKER_03I'm good, bro. Like, artists don't need managers unless they already got motion, unless they already doing stuff. You don't need a manager, yeah. Unless you already doing, unless the people are calling you, trying to book you for shows and pay you for shows because you gotta pay your manager. Managers, see my thing was that's one thing about me. I I build stuff on love, yeah, like brotherhood type shit. So I'm not even asking for nothing. You feel me? I'm like, hey, when we make it happen, that's when you get it right. But you know, everybody ain't like that, and the people would they they forget that. They forget that, man. They forget that I'm uh I'm I'm I'm in the red this much, and you you ain't did nothing. You know what I'm saying? So it's like people forget stuff. So I I wouldn't I would never manage unless they already, unless they got something to manage.
SPEAKER_04Well, I mean, what if they came up to you? They're like, Look, man, I saw what you did for Jordy, I saw what you did for Lou, um, I see what you're doing for VZ right now. How do I get on? I I can't I can't help it.
SPEAKER_03They gotta go talk to VZ. If VZ, if VZ wanna do it, then VZ can do it. I I can't help them. You're over it. Oh bro, bro, 100%. Yeah, I mean you put so much work behind. People are ungrateful, bro. They forget. People forget, everybody forgets things, and it's fine. Like I said, I just I'll move on. Yeah, I I still hear me. I don't hear nobody else. You know what I'm saying? So that's just that's just what it is. I just I'm good. Damn. It ain't worth it. Unless they got something to manage. Now, if you if you an artist, if you was an artist and you got 15 people calling you every week, $500 show, $500 trying to pay you, then it makes sense for me to get in there and manage something. Yeah, but it ain't nothing to manage. What am I doing? Paying for everything, trying to make trying to make sure, or I'm just wasting my time with you.
SPEAKER_04And calling you, trying to get you to believe in yourself.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I'm not doing that, bro.
SPEAKER_04So would you ever do uh would you ever promote any hip-hop shows out here yourself? Like put one together, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Only one thing I like right now is what Robert's doing, what direct's doing. Yeah, I would definitely help him with that for the duration.
SPEAKER_04Okay, that's that's once a year though, right?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like I'm not doing those shows, no, because who all right? So you take an artist, you put their face on the fire, right? What do you get from that? So if I take an artist, if I got Jeezy coming out here, I'm putting JZ on the fire real big, boom, he's gonna be right there on the fire. Yeah, because I know what he's gonna bring just from that. If I can't bring if I can't put an artist on the flyer and that happens, I'm good. It don't make sense. I might as well put my own face on there.
SPEAKER_04Damn, I'm good. That's true. Do you feel any artists right now have any emotion in the city?
SPEAKER_03I don't know. Like I said, I don't know. I I like I like a few artists in the city that's doing their thing, and I respect what they're doing. I know they putting, I know they got families, I know they got this, and I know they putting their money into their self. That's why I look at people who invest in themselves. You buying your own beats, you pamper your own videos, you you you might you might have a connect to be on this show or pay to be on this show. I respect that. I don't motion, don't mean nothing to me if you ain't putting your own money into it. Yeah, that's true. That's that's just me, bro. Like you invest in yourself, that means you believe in yourself.
SPEAKER_04So let me get this one out the way, and then right before we wrap up, and I gotta ask you a couple more questions. I asked you, I wanted to hear Doc's top 10.
SPEAKER_03I don't have a top 10.
SPEAKER_04And you said you said I might got four.
SPEAKER_03My god, I mean up Kit's app county, yeah. That's right now rapping, right now rapping. I don't see enough work. Yeah, I don't see enough work, and I and I feel like like I always tell people, man, like, man, you should you should have five albums out of a year or EPs out of the year. That's easy work right there.
SPEAKER_04It is actually, especially nowadays, because now you don't have to go to a studio anymore.
SPEAKER_03The biggest artist in the world just dropped three projects with like 20 videos or something like that. And he wrote it all himself. I don't know if he wrote it all himself. Yeah, you can kind of tell. I don't know if he did. That's that you that shit is hot. That that's one of the coldest. Man, that's one of the coldest projects I heard in a lot of three of them. Yeah, yeah, he killed him. I don't know.
SPEAKER_04You know what's crazy? I never could listen. I like Drake's hits, but I can never listen to a whole Drake album.
SPEAKER_03And Drake is cold. Drake knows how to make songs. Yeah, that's one thing. Some artists know how to make, you know, they they got good raps. He knows how to make songs where where they're gonna be like that song. I forgot what it's called right now. I think it's something Janice, but that song's gonna be crazy. Yeah, sure. STF. That song's gonna go crazy, bro.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that song's gonna be the well, he's still he's still a mega star, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03He just had to get that you see what the three albums did. You see they went one, two, and three.
SPEAKER_04You see everything that's because everybody was anticipating what he was gonna do. You know what I'm saying? No, that album was anticipated because they're like, How you gonna bounce back from this Kendrick stuff? Okay, so Kendrick, right?
SPEAKER_03So so tell me this, bro. If if you Kendrick and I'm Drake, right? And the biggest thing that ever happened to you is you talking about me, who won that battle for real? The biggest thing that you're gonna be known for is talking about me. You didn't you didn't win that, bro. You thank you. That's what you should have said. You should say thank you. No, he won that. He won that. He won because what? He talked about Drake? No, he would have never even he is it's just been regular, not saying Kendrick is regular, Kendrick is a star. At the end of the day, it would have been big as it was if he didn't talk about Drake.
SPEAKER_04That's just like that's just like when Jay-Z and Nas had their battle, right? Nas Nas won that, right? But Jay-Z has the more flourishing career, not the same. But when it comes to hip hop, that's what it is. Like when it becomes between two MCs, who won?
SPEAKER_03To to me, the winner is the person whose name rings the most bells. And for you to have to say my name, period, to make you get what he got Grammys for? He got all kinds of stuff for this for this project. Uh not the he got Grammys for the GNX and he got Grammys for uh All I'm saying is bro, uh But he does the song it takes if it takes you if you got if you're doing bab baby numbers, but when you mention my name, your numbers go to here. Yeah, Kendra's always been that's he's always did numbers. You better thank me, bro. That's all I'm saying. You better thank me. Don't don't don't talk no shit about me when you see me shake my hand and say thank you. I appreciate you. Because that's what happened. You a Drake fan, though. I'm a fan of I'm a fan of music, man. Like, like I don't care who it is, I'm a fan of music.
SPEAKER_04I think Kendra Kendra destroyed him mentally.
SPEAKER_03I uh mentally it's crazy when you when you got a uh when you got everything Drake got, bro.
SPEAKER_04When he when it yeah, that but still it's like when you he came out with Meet the Grams.
SPEAKER_03That's what you gotta do. When you gotta you when you trying to be it's hard to listen to when you trying to be something who who sings the song? Nobody knows the words of the songs that he you talking about. But go play Drake's album and see how many people singing every word to every song he got. We're gonna have to do that. I haven't been out there. And I like I said, I'm not I I think I just think he's better, but that's just me though. That's just me though. And I got a lot of my pods always talking to John. Yes, sir. You already know. But yeah, man, I just that's that's just me. What's up, Justin?
SPEAKER_01What's that say?
SPEAKER_04Peninsula is drastically different sense of community. Shout out the homie cura, man. That's my homie cure from Audio Dose. What's up, Kira? Yeah, he's uh he's he's he lives in um like on the other side of water, but he's been working over here.
SPEAKER_03Did we interview them for Kids Up County Young Cut?
SPEAKER_04No, I don't think no. We interviewed Jay Lee and uh Brennan. Yeah, and they're making films, but he's been over here on this side of the peninsula. He's like, this place is amazing. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Because he's used to the city or whatever, man. I called you back last night, bro. Hit me up. So, doc, if anybody wants to get involved with what you're doing for the community, yeah, um, or any of your events, if they want to, you know, help with the pop-up, how can they get a hold of you and how can they find you?
SPEAKER_03Doc Little Kids, hit me up. That's it, right there. You can, I mean, look it up. That's all just type in. How do you spell that? Just type in Doc Little Kids. Um, Doc Blackwell. Just look up Doc Blackwell. That's it, bro. Just if you D O C U L V. If you're from here, bro, or anything in the city or anything like that, you already know what it is. I'm I'm everywhere, not hard to find at all. Um, when Golden Star opened back up, I'll be there. So, you know, that's what we do. Are they closed? They I think they fix some stuff or something. Oh, they fixed the cup. That's my joint right there, man. That's my joint. So if you just be there. And I appreciate you having me on the show, man. And I know you want to ask some other questions, some other stuff, but you know, I'll no, this is this is the question I wanted to ask. My thing is this, bro. I don't I don't mention ghosts, but you know what I'm saying? No, I don't want to ask you about that. I don't talk about that either. Yeah, I don't talk about ghosts, but yeah. If I can't hear it or see it, I I don't talk about it, bro. You know what I'm saying? So other than that, man, I'm just I'm just trying, I'm just outside trying to make make this city make it great again. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And that's to be on the same too, bro.
SPEAKER_04Like, I don't I don't really care for the controversy, right? Like when I bring people onto my show, I want I want it to be like old school journalism. Like, you know, when I used to open up the source magazine, I would learn about the artists, right? You know what I'm saying? Now it's just it's all excuse my language, it's all fuck shit. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03Well, you know, that sales. That fucks shit. That's why that's why the podcast is like there. That's why it's always beef. That's fake beef. It's all fake. Like, I'm not finna go back and forth with a grown man or a grown woman. Yeah, because I I might say something I can't take back, or I might do something I can't take back. So I just I just let it go, bro. And that's the and that well, me.
SPEAKER_04I'm the same, bro. I'm like, I'm a grandfather now. I pay HOA fees. What do I look like beefing with you and you sleeping in your car and on somebody else's couch?
SPEAKER_03Especially getting at an age in our life right now where we don't have time to give to nobody no more. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_04I don't have time to give nobody, especially as hard as you're working too.
SPEAKER_03And it and and and I I feel like we can do more. Yeah, you know, so much more we can do. I I even just seeing you different places be making me proud because I know you venturing out doing different things now. I see you, I see you at different events now, different community events pulling up. So I, you know, even when I saw you the other day, I was I was there trying to get a um what do they call it? A takeover at that little uh juice place when I seen you and I was standing. Oh, Silverdale, yeah, yeah. And I rolled up on you. I was like, look at this guy over here. I mean, we trying to, we trying to, we trying to get this city, man. Like, remember it was the most most livable city? Remember Bremerton was the most livable city in the world in the United States? Yeah, we're trying to get that back, bro. I remember Bremerton had the highest dui rates in the country. It was the most livable city in the world, in the United States. Yeah, um, I don't remember when it was some years ago, like in the 90s, I think. But I think we can get it back to feeling that way, man. Because it's it ain't hard. We just gotta get them babies right. Yeah, we get them babies right, we good, bro.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, you know, my cousin pointed it out to me too. I was like, man, he's like, yeah, Kilo. He was like, he's like, he was like, cuz you don't understand how many kids you actually helped raise out here. And I was like, damn, and like they, you know, the kids look up to me and stuff. Like, even when they were at Jinx's spot, um, shout out his exotic uh breezy. You know what I'm saying? Like, he was like, Hey man, I'm the dune, I'm recording a song. I want you to come down here. The homies want you to hear it and stuff. So, you know what I'm saying, ladies and gentlemen. Uh, this is the nightly strange. I appreciate Doc coming on the show. Don't worry, bro. We're saying, Hey, BZ, man.
SPEAKER_03We ain't worried about these guys, man. We differ, bro. We different than them, bro. You know, that's the thing, BZ. We ain't we ain't gotta BZ be ready to he called me, like, hey, I bet it. I remember I said that. I was like, I bet he got these ready to go. I'm like, man, BZ, man, we ain't gotta do that, man. We step on shit like that. Man, you gotta you gotta let people like that just die down. Did you see they ain't nothing? Man, we we walk over shit we used to trip over, you know what I'm saying? So it's not man.
SPEAKER_04We i Alan Iverson walk over the yeah, I ain't I ain't dealing with nobody on the internet threatening me. I was like, really on the internet, man.
SPEAKER_03Bro, show up to one of the shows, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, the city be happy to see you, bro.
SPEAKER_04I always say, yeah, the city be happy to see you, ghost. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, and with that, ladies and gentlemen, this is the Nightly Strange. I like to thank my guest Doc for coming back on. Next time we got to do this again with a bottle of tequila when I start drinking again. Ask me some questions, then I'll be ready too.
SPEAKER_01Tequila, tequila. Oh, it's been a while.
SPEAKER_03I ain't drinking 90 days. But yeah, let me uh before we go out. Yeah, go ahead. So um, May 29th at the village, um, pull up, Lady Dice BZ gonna be performing. My boy Robert, we having a fundraiser for my boy's family. Um, we look out for each other out here. That's that's what community is. We look out for each other. May 30th. I'm gonna be at the cam. Um uh men's summit. You good it's called You Good, bro. I'm gonna talk my talk my stuff. You know what I'm saying? Put uh give you some news you can use. Um June 5th, Kissap Community Foundations, um, celebration of philanthropy. Um pull up if you get you a ticket, come check it out. It's showing it's showing a bunch of stuff about people that's doing a lot of a lot of um work in the community. Um June 19th for sure, Juneteenth on Quincy Square. It's gonna be the biggest, it's gonna be the biggest. We got, I mean, I'm surprised that you guys haven't taken the other side of the street down. Yeah, we got we got Quincy Square and then Pacific. We're about to set it off like a T.
SPEAKER_04Okay, I was what I was wondering because I was like, Quincy Square is big, but like your event last year was was huge.
SPEAKER_03But we and and it's gonna be and we um uh beef was gonna be there too. Oh, really? Part of Quincy Square. So we it's been a it's it's gonna look real good down there. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Um gonna be packed full of baddies. Man, I'm just I just want us to be able to celebrate Juneteenth, like they celebrate like.
SPEAKER_04And we we talked about that before because remember they used to hold an evergreen, we'd be there, man. They got this thing in Negros beer.
SPEAKER_03I mean, but but you know, we ain't gonna do that. We'll they they they are our you know, they that's what they know. That's what our elders, that's what they know. That's why we that's why we're doing a whole week now. Yeah, because we st we we still do that. We still do the um the evergreen one every year. I think this year it's gonna be on the boomer. Boom, was good. But this year it's gonna be on, I think the 12th, 13th, I can't remember right now. But um, so we still doing all that. We just doing a week of celebrations now instead of one celebration. We're doing a whole week of Juneteenth celebrations. Okay, cool. Yeah, turn up, man. Yeah, um, July 14th, 17th, and 22nd, we're gonna be in different apartments in Bremerton, east side and the west side. We're gonna be at different uh apartment complexes bringing resources, food, um, just activities for the kids and resources for the families. You know what I'm saying? And um, in August 1st and 4th, we're gonna do a couple more pop-ups. Um, August 22nd, Doctor of the Kids Day. The next day, August 23rd, is the Bremerton Hip Hop Festival. So we just we just want to um bring our people together, man, and and and and give them some news they can use. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, some positivity in the city.
SPEAKER_03When are you gonna run for mayor? A couple in like three years, man. A couple years, man. I'm I'm really gonna I'm really gonna touch down and do my do my Dougie, man. Yeah, yeah. I sent you your first poster. I hope you use that. Yeah, I'm um I might, you know, I'm trying to find me, I'm trying to find me a first lady before then, but uh right now I gotta I got a first fish and first dog right now, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_04You know what's crazy for me? It's like I was like, you know, I could probably ride the world and just you know date random women. I was like, unless my hair starts to fall out, then I gotta get a wife. That's crazy. Get someone stuck in it.
SPEAKER_03My hair fell out 25, 24, 25.
SPEAKER_04So like it's trying to now on the top, but I found this this thing where you put peppermint and rosemary in it and rub it in there. You mix peppermint with your uh shampoo and put it in there and it helps your hair fall out. I can feel it working. I can feel it. It's the peppermint that makes you feel that's what makes you feel that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I was like, cool, cool. Well, um, don't you got don't you guys when y'all's next uh comedy show?
SPEAKER_04The next comedy show is um June 18th. Oh, so it's the day before I do it. The day before it's the Juneteenth comedy show.
SPEAKER_03So this ain't just this ain't just a um uh interview. This is like we've given y'all a calendar of the different events that's going on for the next three months, and this and it and it's gonna be big. So um please show up and support people. If you want to, especially if you're a artist and you want to you want some support, you better start supporting people.
SPEAKER_04You know, it's crazy, like when it comes like being an artist, right? I show up to all the shows. I know, right? There's many kinds, so you know, I showed up to uh Whaling Days, right? Just I wanted to go see concrete, do Whalen Days. Right. Oh, that's big, that was big for me. That's crazy. I love concrete, right? Somebody didn't show up to perform. And they're like, You want to get on the stage? I was like, shoot, all right, out of shape, out of breath, but I still did it. And that's the whole thing. It's like I show up because you never know what kind of opportunity you might get. And the crazy part about these different Shout out D-Nack.
SPEAKER_03The crazy part about these different um festivals and different things out here, man, it's like they'll put us on a small stage and and they know I know, you know, we there's they're being paid. The other artists on these on these other stages, they're getting paid. You know what I'm saying? They're getting paid for this. They're making it seem like, oh, well, well, shit, at least we got a chance to get on this on and rap. No, hell no. We want the we want money just like them. We we want to be paid for our art too. So that's one thing, that's another reason why I don't want to do shows unless I'm able to pay artists for really be for their art. You know what I'm saying? Like I got a I got a homegirl, she does um events with artists, like uh painters, different people who do drawings and paintings. Yeah, and they get you know, they make sure they get paid for their stuff. So it's like, man, we gotta we gotta show people that what we do and what we take our time doing, we spend our time on, is it's worth the bag too. And you work with Gabrielle too, right? Sometimes, yeah, yeah. Yeah, she she does, she does a thing called Bit. It's a um Black Infant Thrive program that um shows love to black families and uh black mothers um that just had kids and stuff. It's just she does a lot of stuff for for for our for our people. Yeah, she does.
SPEAKER_04She does. She act we we went to one of her events, me and my daughter did.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that was that was one of that was her black infant she would make a great stepmom.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, um, anyways, ladies and gentlemen, this is the Nightly Strange. Don't forget to follow Doc Loves the Kids and Doc everywhere. Don't forget to follow us here at the Nightly Strange. Once again, my name is D Matt Guno. It's Doc in the building. Appreciate it, appreciate it.
SPEAKER_03And you got any shout outs you want to send anybody? Um, you know, the Black Wells, man. Shout out to the Black Wells and everybody from the city, man. Um and you ain't gotta be born in the city, be from the city. We you know who you is, you know who we is. You already know. Yeah. With that, ladies and gentlemen, it's the nightly strange.
SPEAKER_04Until next time.
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