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Carl Jerard, Brooklyn Dre, and JRob welcome you to The Only One Mic Podcast. We are joined each week by authors, activists, advocates, community leaders, and professionals from several walks of life who would like to offer their experience, expertise, or commentary on the various topics you will be interested in learning.
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Did Fani Hurt Her Case? Is the NBA Trash Now? & New Witnesses in Malcolm X Assassination Case
In this episode, we dissect the fading allure of the NBA, the overshadowing of sports by celebrity and corporate interests, and the tangle of sports recruitment politics. Our no-holds-barred discussion peels back the curtain on these cultural phenomenons, examining the implications for athletes and fans alike.
Courtroom dramas usually keep us glued to our screens, but what happens when real life presents a legal spectacle involving a former president? We bring you an inside look at the strategies, implications, and cultural repercussions as Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis takes on Donald Trump. Touching on gender roles and the quagmire of fashion and politics, we also challenge the power of the presidential vote and share raw reflections on personal voting experiences.
We also discuss Malcolm X's assassination, the introduction of new witnesses, and historic betrayals within black leadership. Sit back as we honor cultural icons and confront the issues that shape our society in a dialogue that's as enlightening as it is provocative.
Attorney Ben Crump discusses Malcolm X's assassination 59 years later | full video
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Brother than sisters. Why?
Speaker 3:It's one night. It's one night, it's one night. Give me a moment with your friend. I've never been up to enough for my thoughts before. Welcome to the Only One Mic Podcast Roger Rob, brooklyn Dre. Welcome to Howdy's in the Building. How y'all doing, fellas? What up we got on the dock? Today we're going to talk about that All-Star game Fanny Welles, heated Moments in Caught and Ben Krupp Taking up the Malcolm X case man. So let's go ahead and get into it, fellas. I know we haven't been together. You know what I mean. Fantastic four here in a while. So listen, let's get into the All-Star game. Brother Silver should be fired man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I didn't even realize there was an All-Star game. My nephew told me this Saturday night and I'm like what All-Star game? So I don't know, because I don't watch too much network television, was this thing really promoted like that, or what man?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was promoted the way they normally do. The thing is it's turned to garbage.
Speaker 3:Yeah, not only did he tell me that, but once he told me I really wasn't interested. Anyway, you know what I mean. Maybe it's my error, man, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4:They don't even play, Not even just the festivities before that man the NBA dunk contest. Remember when the dunk contest would be something you ran home?
Speaker 3:Highlighted the whole weekend. Yes, yes, it highlighted the whole weekend. Man, you can tell me that it wasn't. So let me ask you all a question. I watched it. I'm speaking to the brothers here. What was your thoughts on?
Speaker 4:that the dunk contest was trash.
Speaker 2:The whole good thing was trash man Lane LeBron.
Speaker 3:James, just for the context of this, because again a person like myself who did not watch it I didn't watch it.
Speaker 5:I'm trying one out too, because I didn't watch it either.
Speaker 3:And I'm quite sure a few people out in the audience probably didn't watch it Give us some context on who was actually in the dunk contest, but I can't even remember Some kid from the G League.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a little white guy who won last year Little white guy?
Speaker 4:Yeah, a little white guy. Hey, the sad Philadelphia 76ers gave him a contract. This is when the dunk contest was last year. Then he represented Philly last year when he was in the 60s they gave him like a week contract or something like that, just in the dunk contest.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because they probably didn't care to dunk or whatever. You know what I'm saying. They wanted to try to put him on, but he ain't never played in the games, and then when he did play it was like garbage time.
Speaker 4:Oh really.
Speaker 2:I'm going to say this because this was a quote that I heard. They said this kid jumped over Shaq. So that's kind of impressive, you know what I mean. Like you jump over Shaq and the kid, jalen Brown from the Celtics, jumped over some little blogger who like 5'2" Sitting in a chair. So it's like what are we watching here?
Speaker 4:The sad part about it is man. I remember like growing up the dunking contest was exciting until, sad to say, until the Brown got in the lead.
Speaker 2:All the greats did the dunk contest, even Kobe. Kobe won the dunk contest with nice dunks.
Speaker 4:Yeah. And again, I always say, man, people can say what they want. I don't think he really competes, man. I think he plays the game, but I don't think he's really competing. He's really putting it on the line. You know what I mean. The greats want everything. He wants the dunking contest. You know some of the greats couldn't even shoot and gotten three point contests.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. They want it. All the greats want to beat you in flipping quarters. They want to win.
Speaker 4:The Japanese. Whatever it is, yeah, yeah, not.
Speaker 2:LeBron, if he ain't got a stack team, he don't want to play.
Speaker 4:Don't want to play man. And then we're Adam Silver man and all of this stuff that they're doing to make the game exciting. What is it?
Speaker 2:The end season championship.
Speaker 4:Adding on another. What is it? Adding on? Another playoff game? All this other stupid. You know how you make it exciting Play defense, bring defense back. You know what I mean. Stop this big three garbage and just play defense and the game will go back to what it is. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Make people actually have to earn a check. Stop calling these tiki-tak technical files. Let's get back to where technicals are real technical, you know what I mean. And we go on. We've had some good competition.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they ain't like this is football or nothing. You know we're not getting, like you know, a concussion for getting a hard file or something like that. Not, you know, I mean occasionally, I guess, but not, you know, every file down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're not getting a real concussion. You're not getting a football concussion. Yeah, you might just get bopped in the head and your head might hurt a little bit. But come on, man, you gotta stop. I blame LeBron. Lebron don't want to compete. He don't want to compete in the dunk contest. If you're the best player in the league, supposedly, why wouldn't you? And you can jump, why wouldn't you want to go out there and dunk and do it for the fans?
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, and make All-Star Week what it is. It's kind of like a fan appreciation thing. Man, yeah, exactly Like you, make a lot of money.
Speaker 3:I also heard that when they presented the trophy at the end, not for the dunk contest but for the actual game, it was really like no fanfare to it, like it was just like here's the trophy. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's going 200 points in one game.
Speaker 2:Kind of stupid garbage like that. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 4:No defense being played man. It's ridiculous man.
Speaker 2:They just coming down and just pulling from half court, like what are we doing here? If we was in the park right now and somebody shot from half court, you'd be like yo, get off the court.
Speaker 4:Right, get out of here, man.
Speaker 3:But see, we're speaking to our generation of playing though man, these kids just like that though. Well, that's, I think, I think.
Speaker 4:I think that's one of the things that messed this whole thing up, man. They're going to participation trophies.
Speaker 5:That's why everybody happy when they lose and everybody hugging.
Speaker 4:You know when they, when they not, it's like nobody's really having a competition. I was like, all right, so what we lost.
Speaker 2:Let's get back to. Let's get back to if I lose, I don't want to shake your hand. Let's get back to that, at least for today.
Speaker 4:At least for today. We can get over it later down.
Speaker 2:If we play five times over the next five years and you beat me five times.
Speaker 4:I don't like you, so competition is.
Speaker 5:But we not friends, it's just like the Pro Bowl, the Pro Bowl. Pro Bowl is not what it used to be. No more non-flag football.
Speaker 4:Fly football. Nobody wants to compete.
Speaker 5:You know what it is because there's a lot of YouTubers going around. I forget his guy name. Oh, his name is destroyer, the young boy out of Florida. He's a kicker. My boys watch him all the time. But he go around and y'all probably seen him in commercial and stuff Because now he got some connection with the NFL. But him and another guy go around all these big cities and have all these young boys and meet up at a football stadium and have all the running routes.
Speaker 4:Yeah, man, I like that, man I had a DB's.
Speaker 5:Hey, it's very entertaining. Yeah, I like that. I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 4:I know what you're talking about. Yeah, I want to say they have Ocho Senko out there, no, no, no. Terrell Lowens out there one time, yeah, man he was out there.
Speaker 5:Yeah, they had the last one I saw. They had Michael Vick out there quarterbacking, throwing the ball. Yeah.
Speaker 4:And no case out there playing aggressive man. Have some fun, man.
Speaker 5:Dude, I'm telling you, see all type of dudes out there running. Old dudes think they still got it. You got white boys trying to prove that they rough and some of them are rough.
Speaker 4:Yeah, some of them are nice too. That's the thing.
Speaker 2:Sports, competition and sports has always been fun. Yeah, if you can't find the fun and wanting to win in an athletic competition, you shouldn't be out there.
Speaker 5:Yeah, right, right about that, man yeah.
Speaker 4:And then you're calling these guys you know the greatest and really they don't really want to compete. I don't think LeBron really wants to compete. I mean, I like LeBron as a person. You can't take nothing from him as far as business is concerned. And for the philanthropy, for him being standing up for a lot of social issues and stuff like that, but on the court man, he's nothing compared to some of the other guys. Man, we're talking about killers in the past. Man Like Mike Kobe Kobe.
Speaker 5:But he's old too, though he's one of the older players out there, lebron.
Speaker 4:You know what, though? I think the reason why that is because you know they like to compare him to Mike and Kobe, and them guys, mike and Kobe was double team and triple team the entire career. He says since his first four or five years in Cleveland, he could. He ain't had no double, he hasn't had the stress on his body that they've had for those for those years. You know what I mean. And not to mention, they're not playing basketball Like they weren't back then. They're not. He's not even getting a hard file, you know what I mean, all the same.
Speaker 2:You have somebody knock him out the air or put him. Put LeBron on his back, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but you you you.
Speaker 2:You might get kicked out the league.
Speaker 5:True, that's true, that's true. But you got to realize too a lot of these dudes are flopping like crazy. It gets sick sometimes.
Speaker 6:Yeah.
Speaker 5:They, you know, I mean to the point that they got YouTube clips now showing where it's just so outrageous that the other of the flops that they be doing he's the king.
Speaker 4:He was the king flopper man.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 4:LeBron was the king flopper.
Speaker 3:And I look at like these kids now when they actually play ball. If you go to the court, a lot of them are just doing it. You know what I mean Just flopping, just to do it. You know what I mean. It's like, it's like a part of their game. Now you know what I mean, right.
Speaker 4:And then people have the nerve to say, now that you know the basketball players now are more talented than those in the past. Let me tell you something. The problem with basketball right now everybody wants to be a three or two. You know what I mean. They want to be a shooting guard or they want to be a small forward. I don't care if you seven, five or five one. Everybody plays the two or the three positions.
Speaker 2:It's that European style basketball, positionless basketball, that's not that's not hooping. I mean, like you seven foot, you're not going to play point guard, you're going to play center or power forward. Get down there in the box, get your money.
Speaker 4:Get your money. That's what it is. I remember as a kid, you know, as soon as you went out on the court, coaches told you right, all right, big man or big men, go down here, point guard, you go over there, you know, so on and so forth.
Speaker 4:And this is the problem. They say everybody is more skilled. Skilled in what? Being a two or three, what about learning about the drop step, you know, and all the different moves and different things that you got to do under under the backboard, and stuff like that? Nobody really is. I guess I think Joe LMB is probably the only one that actually still somewhat have that kind of big man game. You know what I mean? I don't know too many players that have that.
Speaker 2:The Joker. The Joker got a big man game. He just European, I ain't gonna lie. He got the moves, he just slow and can't jump.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, joker's one of them.
Speaker 2:He got some footwork.
Speaker 4:He's not bad at all, but then again he also, too, is the one that bring it down. You know what I mean. So he's not. I mean, he got the traditional moves when he wanted, but he got. He got to bring another, another schedule.
Speaker 2:That's. That's. That's another thing. Why the point guards or the guards don't go take the ball from these big man dribbling the ball.
Speaker 4:That's another thing. I said man Again because there's no defense being played. How in the world you got a seven five man coming down dribbling and crossover and you and you, you, you, you, six, six, two, six, three? There's no way that should happen, yeah. You should play a defense.
Speaker 2:Go take the ball from him.
Speaker 4:Go take the ball from him, man. But you know Adam Silver should be fired, man. He's really messing up the sport. That whole big three garbage is really killing the lead. You know what I mean. And we got in the sad part about this. Some good talent in the NBA. Now that you got the job of Rance, you got the the kid down there. What is it?
Speaker 2:Anthony the kid, the kid, the kid. Wimby is nice. You got Anthony Edwards from Minnesota. Anthony Edwards yeah, that's what I'm going to say.
Speaker 4:That was yeah, you got some nice talent out there, man. A lot of nice talent man they playing around.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then Adam Rance said next year he's going to do it.
Speaker 6:The dunk contest.
Speaker 4:You should save it.
Speaker 5:Well, he's doing it now.
Speaker 4:What I do like about the, what I do like about these young kids now they're not playing around with LeBron in them, man, you know what I mean. They're coming out and trying to compete, man, trying to take their heads off.
Speaker 2:And that's the reason why I say LeBron will never be better than Mike, because people feared Mike. Nobody fears LeBron, yeah. They go and try to dunk with them. Anytime they get they go, they go try to, you know, do things to them. They never do that to Mike.
Speaker 4:They feared Kobe too, man, yeah, kobe was feared, the mama was feared man, absolutely. The mama was definitely feared man. But yeah, adam Silver, they need to get him out of it man, he's killing the league man. The sad part about it's like only really one sport now that you can watch it. Get some competition out of it Now. I think that's football and the sad part about that and they trying to mess that up too.
Speaker 2:I think the only sport you can watch and really see competition is boxing or UFC, because this football, this is still going somewhere else.
Speaker 3:I know I spent too much time on the football thing, but I want to ask y'all, man, because we weren't together when the Super Bowl came and went. You know what I mean and we all see how that turned out, which I got to say. I predicted that, like two weeks prior to that, taylor Swift was going to win that Super Bowl, but what happens?
Speaker 2:is Trap Travis Kallsey, Big Pharma, Soda Cool. You know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 3:They don't even talk about the brother to actually score the touchdown. You ever notice that Nobody speaks about it.
Speaker 4:You know what I mean. It's a big, big pharma.
Speaker 3:We'll save that for another affair. But what happens is I noticed in one of the commercials they're talking about now that the NFL is about to go into action, start recruiting people from overseas man, with a heavy focus on the commercial on Africa. You know what I mean. So what do y'all think about that? Do you think that's a good idea, or is it going to turn into basketball?
Speaker 4:at some point. I think that's what's happened. Well, I think it happened in baseball. It's happening in basketball now and the crazy thing about it is it's kind of eliminating black players. Yup, you know, because baseball they did it, and now you can't find no blacks in baseball. And right now you're seeing how the Europeans are taking over the NBA.
Speaker 2:And that's the thing right.
Speaker 4:I don't mind, if you can play, you can play.
Speaker 2:The Europeans and the Africans. But this is the thing, right. So you've got the Africans and the overseas players actually being trained in the skill of playing basketball and the science of the game. Where you have the American players, they just basically playing pickleball until they get to college or get to the pros. You don't really have an understanding of the game. And then over there is basically putting them behind and then also to over there.
Speaker 4:Even though the it's a Euro game, that Euro game is aggressive. You know, I mean over here we still playing Patty kick. Now you know everybody's all soft and everything like that. It's it might nicks us out of it.
Speaker 4:You know we, we laugh at it probably, it probably will, it probably will, you know people sit here and listen to it and they'll say, oh no, well, black people never be out of basketball or whatever like that. Look at baseball. Yeah, so probably. I think somebody said one time it's like 1% of baseball is African-American. I remember one time another Reggie Jackson and all of these names was in baseball.
Speaker 2:You know, I mean, I was in block, though.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, I found out you later I'm, that's what I found out. He was a what do you say? Puerto Rican, or something like that yeah, yeah. But well, excuse me, not Reggie Jackson. Let's say Daryl. Strawberry and like good the Koch brothers man.
Speaker 2:Now, I remember a couple years ago the Phillies was in the World Series. They handle black players.
Speaker 4:It was crazy like a lot of teams don't have black players in baseball. You know me and what. Where you get fooled, that, as you think, is because they're taking them. They're Spanish but they'll be Dominican and you know round skin, but they and I really, you know African-American people of color.
Speaker 3:But they're not. They're not.
Speaker 4:You know, they're not us. I guess you would say but yeah, that's what's going on and that Euro game is actually fitting to To the remember, we hated the Euro game. I.
Speaker 2:Still do ever.
Speaker 4:We hated the Euro game. We wanted this aggressive basketball that we had, you know, with birds and Magics and stuff like that. And then the Euro game came in. Everybody talk bad about it, but now that's what it is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but the thing is for me like watching the basketball 80s, 90s, even early 2000s. You had to have heart, you know I'm saying, and now, like you can't do nothing, you can't touch nobody, you can just run down a court, do whatever you want, and it's like everybody's talking trash, it's like you're not even built like that. You wouldn't do that if I could punch you in your face. Seriously.
Speaker 5:Yeah, you're right now. Now they've thrown you and throwing you out off the team, the stuff and spending for long periods of time now for fighting. Back in the day they didn't, they wouldn't have horses with you fighting. I mean you would fight and then you may sit out the rest of the game, but you can't rev up and down. It's like we anything in life. People don't want to be punished, no more. For for the actions. Yeah.
Speaker 3:All right, so check this out. We're gonna move on to the next thing, which is I don't need to do your heart training.
Speaker 2:Fanny.
Speaker 3:Fanny was funny. Funny, I realized I've been pronouncing this woman's name wrong or funny.
Speaker 4:Well, that's what that.
Speaker 3:So listen, of course we know that she's on trial to be removed, you know, from Trump's case, if I'm using that term correctly. So you know I don't want to get into too much context because everybody know what's going on, but apparently you know she hired someone that she allegedly was seeing during the time and it was things that was going on where they spent a lot of money and the blah blah blah. You guys can go to any news site USA and watch this.
Speaker 4:But they said she overpaid overpaid yeah and then she took it and then took advantage of the overpaid.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah but the real story really is how Fanny a Farnie, excuse me is Handling herself in this courtroom.
Speaker 4:I think she did a bad job.
Speaker 3:You think so?
Speaker 4:Yeah, she went there with that. Don't get me wrong, man. I think what she don't really have a case against her, but I think at the end of this they are going to put a case against it because she was doing things in the court like I think she's trying to say she keeps so many thousands of dollars in a house in her home, which her father told her to do, or whatever case may be. And then at one point I think they said she had a tax lien for like a couple of thousand or something like that, and they were kind of asking the world, you know, you got all this money in your house. Why didn't you pay the tax lien? They was like you know, you're gonna tell me how to pay my bills, yeah.
Speaker 5:I think.
Speaker 3:I think that's what the real story is like a lot of the responses to you know and again it might make it do this case.
Speaker 4:But there's a tax person somewhere watching this like whoa, you talk kind of sick, you know, I mean.
Speaker 2:And then the thing is, when you, when you in those political areas, and especially if you're a lawyer, you have a higher knowledge of certain things. So when you get in those type of situations, where they put you in those type of situations, they tend to be more sarcastic because again they know something Allegedly that the the public doesn't know, right?
Speaker 4:I think. I think, though, she being Maybe I looked at the case, right, and I'm thinking maybe she just was so angry that's the way she approached it that the fact that they're coming out of like this- Wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 3:We're gonna stop it right there. You don't want to pink her as the angry black woman.
Speaker 4:Oh, everybody already.
Speaker 3:I Different outlets are reporting it differently. You know I mean so.
Speaker 5:But that's the problem right there. That's the problem. They call her anger black woman. So I mean what we keep running from folks that say things like that Okay, she ain't got bad woman, so what is she right around? That's the bottom line. Let her be a black woman, she human.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and why? Why?
Speaker 4:why is it that only black people get painted as angry, when, when white people do it, or Caucasian people, or whatever they get on TV and they express a certain amount of emotion, you they never be painted as an angry white boy or angry you know dangerous game to play though, man in that courtroom, man, because don't even though she's not on trial right now, but after this, if you watch that, that case, I'm quite sure they're gonna Bring up a case against it, because it was a lot of Fugazi Responses in that case, man, about that money man and I'm not saying that she did anything wrong, it just didn't seem right. I'm not in understand. I'm an objective.
Speaker 4:I ain't riding against, I'm just saying yeah, yeah, I watched it and I'm looking at a case and I'm like you know, you know we, as black people, we could look at a case and tell if it's going right or wrong.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I don't see the problem. It's so why she dating this guy. What they got do with the case that on the faking case.
Speaker 4:Well, what they're saying is the end. The case is that they're trying to say that she actually is kind of giving him the money and contracts and he's been paid like Crazy better than everybody else. Supposed to be not qualified enough to take this case on and they're saying he's getting a whole lot more money than they think he should get. And the sad part about it is is that they're trying to say that They've been on these trips and different dates and whatever, whatever.
Speaker 5:And they're trying to say so what the problem in doing that for the for the longest? That ain't nothing new.
Speaker 2:I agree. I agree with you, pope. It's the fact that they, they want to. They want to hold us to a different standard. Now, I said this in other shows they always try to hold black people to a different standard. Now you got all these fortune 500 company CEOs who are being paid for who knows what way, more than they should. We're taking trips and all that type of stuff that never brought up, with no charges. Matter of fact, when they do something wrong, they get a. They get a Stimulus package, a surplus, a buyout to make sure that their companies don't fail. But you're trying to hold us to a different, a different step, a different standard.
Speaker 4:We're sure, brothers, I agree with your brothers, but this is America. Yeah, it's gonna be definitely right but again, I'm not saying it is right, but, but again, but again.
Speaker 5:We are so easy to let other folks think for us. You know I'm saying with, and then then we all follow along with that trainer of thinking. You know it's like it, like, for instance, when COVID first came out, right, and people don't even think about. Are you talk about this no more. When COVID first came out, the line went out that black people can't catch it. Yeah, I remember that remember that it was so popular it made it to one of the skits on Saturday night live.
Speaker 1:All right.
Speaker 5:So why was that lie? Spread it so far, so many different places, and then we actually believe that we're gonna walk around with no match and guess what's gonna happen? We're gonna catch COVID and possibly die, right. So those in the beginning they knew that that wasn't true, but we they told the line, we took it and kept it going and and act on as if it was factual.
Speaker 3:And actually a lot of our people died more of it because we have more underlying conditions. Probably the most people you know I mean.
Speaker 4:They thought they couldn't get it a lot of black people did take take that too hard. I remember watching friends in video, some of my friends in Brooklyn having a great time during this time. I mean, then maybe about a month later everybody masked up and you know, taking this serious.
Speaker 5:But yeah, you're talking about a trap. That's a trap right there at the trap house. That's a trap house. Move right there. They trapped us.
Speaker 4:But again, but again. Like I said, I agree with everything y'all say, right, but I'm always like this, like, let's say, for instance, I do nothing wrong, wrong. Today, I get pulled over in the street, pulled over and as I'm driving to work or whatever the case may be, and Some trumped up charges come up to me, or whatever the case may be, I Still can't go in that courtroom in that craze.
Speaker 5:Oh no, no, you gotta be wise.
Speaker 4:So you know again, I hear what you say. I would definitely have the right to be angry, but the reality of it all is you're still in America, man, and we would love. We would love to say you know, Maybe justice is blind and everything went Right, but it doesn't go that way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you also not a lawyer. I believe if you was a lawyer and and had that title of nobility, that when you went in that courtroom, if they brought you up on something, that you would also be Sarcastic, highly sarcastic, because you know the situation that you in as a complete first.
Speaker 4:And again, again, I gotta listen to that case man, because as I'm listening that case, that that case honestly sounds For gaze like it sound like a little weird with because I think even there's a portion in there where, like I think, the brother pleaded the fifth one a couple of things that he initially Kind of talked on and then he pleaded the fifth later on in the conversation, you know, I mean. So I don't know I would be. I'm thinking somewhere down the line they're gonna open up some cases down the line to find out and get a little bit deeper into that Old situation. But again, I don't know she did anything wrong. I'm just saying from looking from outside. I'll be honest, I'm gonna take something crazy in this going off on it. Her father Came in here and destroyed the courtroom. My father was a beast.
Speaker 5:He was an attorney too.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he's attorney. He was very professional. He greeted all the people as counselors. They were talking to him, you know. I mean he wasn't calling in the before and then like that, but he just did what he had to do the professional way and got up out of it, and I Thought it was real classy how he handled it, you know. So that's my opinion on it, but I think she probably should have took the same approaches at that.
Speaker 5:She could have said none of your business and kept it moving Well going back to that.
Speaker 4:She had the right to do that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, didn't even have to show up the court she said, when it when the testimony was, you know, it was her time to get up.
Speaker 6:She chose ran.
Speaker 3:She was like she was waiting she says he was in the office pace and waiting for them to call her down.
Speaker 2:You know okay, we're working here. A different game for the first time in first time in history of America that a black person was going to put in.
Speaker 4:Fanny, fanny, been getting that money too long. Man Ain't no brother voluntary to get on those stands for nothing.
Speaker 3:I should be getting that money too long, but let me run down a couple of moments from Fanny. Fanny, fanny Will, it's our time.
Speaker 4:No, it's been. Name is Fanny. They're trying to get cute a testimony from the South. He know I work out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's fine though, so finally kind of work yeah you know they named you Sadie.
Speaker 4:You know change name the Shardae.
Speaker 3:Here's one of her moments here.
Speaker 6:I'm very much want to be here, so I'm not a hostile witness.
Speaker 1:I very much want to be not so much that your host on this wills would be an adverse witness. Your interests are opposed to Miss merchants merchants interests are Contrary to democracy.
Speaker 6:Your honor, not to mind, a Fulton County district attorney in charge of criminally prosecuting former president Donald Trump for Interference in the 2020 election, shockingly took the stand during a hearing in the case. Fanny Willis had sought to avoid testifying about the Delegation. She was in a romantic relationship with the special prosecutor she assigned to the Trump case, but in an about face she stormed into the courtroom and she insisted that she testified. Please give me the time period. Mr Wade visits you at the place you laid your head. We in. Has he ever visited you at the place you laid your head? So let's be clear, because you've lied in this. Let me tell you which one you lied in, right here. Thank you, I'm right here, no no, no no, this is the truth.
Speaker 6:Judge.
Speaker 2:It is a lot.
Speaker 6:Well, you see, mr Saino. Thank you, we're gonna take five minutes. The Fulton County District attorney made headlines when she brought Rico charges against the former president and more than a Dozen of his campaign staff. And an extraordinary moment Willis marched into the Atlanta courtroom while attorneys were arguing over whether she should be forced to Testify. As she approached the prosecutor's table in court, she looked before the judge and, as the entire gallery watch, she uttered four simple words I'm ready to go, yeah who says that I'm ready to go?
Speaker 4:They don't too much playing with these boys man.
Speaker 5:Back on them. You saw, she put the back on. She had paperwork to show them where they was lying there. Now, all of a sudden, they don't want to it want to shut stuff down. See and that's why you had to do that enemy like that. You got to put him on on trial at the same time. Why he's questioning you? Go ahead.
Speaker 4:I think she was. I think she was right in that situation, because if somebody Assumed something in your personal life, then I think you can take that. You know you can take that approach to it. You know. I mean, you know Really what they're doing and you know this is Trump right here. They plan dirty pool, you know, I mean it's like this might not even have anything to do with this case, but what he's doing is like I'm going down, I'm gonna take the whole ship down with me. I'm doing everything.
Speaker 3:A lot to do with this case, because what happens is is that if she pursues this and this is, you know, the Fulton County thing with him, with the votes, so what happens is is that if they get her off, the next person that comes in to take that case could be like all right, I'm dropping all the charges.
Speaker 4:You know I mean. Well, when I say that, I mean like I know that it's a, you know it's connected, but I'm saying I don't really think they're going to stop her or I don't think it's going to affect the outcome of his case in the long run. You know, I mean because whatever the evidence is is the evidence. You know I mean whether she presented or somebody else presented, it's going to be the same thing.
Speaker 5:Will they be as passionate as she, because she's passionate about getting it done.
Speaker 4:Well, yeah, well, I guess me you could look at it like that. I mean, maybe that might be the case.
Speaker 2:I would they even pursue it. They might, like Mike was saying, they might just go ahead and drop it might drop it. They might?
Speaker 5:Yeah, because history showed us that they can pay people off and then we won't never hit nothing about it. I've been on the bottom.
Speaker 4:We'll see man, but uh again, you know, fanny, uh, fanny went well 10 toes down Finally finally. Hey, listen man. I'm called Fanny, mama named a Fanny. I'm called a Fanny.
Speaker 3:Hey, no, they ain't from down south.
Speaker 4:Hey, nobody called nobody. You ever met somebody named Fanny down south.
Speaker 5:Never All the way in town. I know a Fanny.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I know a couple of Fannies. Come on, baby, Stop that man. That'll make no sense. All I will tell you. This is about Fanny man. She does take a nice vacation every night.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, she goes.
Speaker 4:Fanny.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Fanny. Fanny said she took the guy out for his 50th birthday and uh Took him to, I think, belize or what is it.
Speaker 3:What if I?
Speaker 4:think he came off a trip with the mom, uh, on a cruise, and I think they went to. I think they went to another trip and I think she said for his 50th birthday she took him, paid it, paid for everything.
Speaker 3:Well, and her reason it is my 50th birthday sucked, so I'm gonna make sure he has a good time.
Speaker 2:I like that wish you. We all should be so so blessed to find a Fanny.
Speaker 3:Several times I've expressed on this microphone. I can't find somebody to make me a sandwich On my 49th and a half birthday not that I am 49 and a half.
Speaker 5:Hey, you got the wrong women. You're messing with the wrong type of women.
Speaker 2:This is facts. This is facts.
Speaker 4:Fanny stock. Fanny stock about to go up. Man, it's gonna be a bunch of creeps in the DMF. It is from right here. Fanny stock, about to go way up in there. Man. Fanny said when she got right thing, when she got to wherever they went, she gave her $2,500, nobody knows for $2,500 a month. Well, we'll pop it, buddy, hold on.
Speaker 3:No something else.
Speaker 4:She already paid for the trip. She gave her $2,500 and then she gave, I think, the cab driver about $300. Make sure you keep the cab rolling.
Speaker 3:Keep the cab rolling while we down here and and and, sitting in court like a kingpin.
Speaker 5:Just got it.
Speaker 6:Yeah.
Speaker 4:You go over, look the rico cases down there.
Speaker 2:Where we actually complain about a lot, of a lot of these women nowadays don't want to be wives. You don't want to be mothers. Fanny, who looks like she's not how to treat a brother.
Speaker 4:I know. But then family also says she's your equal or something like that. You know, that's the problem she was having with the brother.
Speaker 5:What they say about her.
Speaker 4:She was saying that the problem that she was having with the uh, the guide that she was seeing, is that she was constantly saying, like she says equal. And you know, a man can't really Take care of all that kind of crazy stuff like that man, you know.
Speaker 5:Oh, so she crazed, she had a father and she talking like that with a father. My question what type of upbringing did she have?
Speaker 4:Yeah, well, dad actually that was a sketchy character.
Speaker 5:Like the comedian tk, uh, tk say who raised you.
Speaker 2:Right, right right.
Speaker 4:Well, you know, a dad was uh, uh, well, he was affiliated technically, I guess he was a back black panther, but you know, uh, he was down with Ron Keringa and anybody know anything about.
Speaker 3:Ron Keringa, ron Keringa was a little sketchy.
Speaker 5:What do you mean, sketchy? It's redoed.
Speaker 4:Yeah, uh. Well, a lot of black panthers believe that Ron Keringa uh Kind of has something to do with, you know, snitching on people and stuff like that. It's alleged it's alleged. And, uh, his father and her father and Ron Keringa. I think I one time another had a newspaper together or something like that, like they ran a newspaper and stuff like that. So my father name I don't think was ever any any, any mud.
Speaker 5:But you know, ron Keringa, because you're mad you know, Anytime somebody come in from a household full of thinkers, you know because, uh, because they try to put our bike force in one box. But we know that we come in all kind of boxes and and and we got some Hacker for thinkers and you know in our circles and so If she came from that type of environment so apparently she did, you know, being an attorney and stuff and being what you're saying about her father you would think she would know better. But again, society got it, got the lines all screwed up and all gray. That you know, that's that's right. We call them bad, and what's bad? We call them right. Right, you know, instead of getting back to the basic, you know the basics of it. They're like women and cooking society been telling them for so long or you're a weak woman if you cook for your man, but that just the opposite is the truth. Our man really would love and respect you more if you knew how to cook.
Speaker 4:Right, you're right about that.
Speaker 5:You know, back in the day, back in the day, you call a woman a, that's a problem, you call them one. Now it's a, it's a badge of honor. You understand, man? Come on, man Come on, Come on they're making food out of us man.
Speaker 4:And we, when we, just when we letting them and I think again, I don't think that, um, you know, when it comes to men and women, it's like now, like you just said, like women look down on the position of cooking and cleaning and all other stuff like that, like it's a weakness, but you don't realize the power that you have. You know, by cooking and cleaning and doing those things, man, you know, like I say all the time in regards to my mom, you know I mean her cooking and cleaning and stuff like that my mom can make a phone call to family or somebody and get somebody hurt. You know her power just from helping people and Doing things, man she has.
Speaker 4:She has a power man. You know I mean so yeah, people look down on that power. You know I mean it's, it's ridiculous Deep women.
Speaker 5:Somebody got a problem with their husband coming home. Cook their niggas and food. Watch your be home early.
Speaker 4:Right and shut up Sometimes. Sometimes you know have to. You know run your mouth all the time. I don't want to make it if you're crazy, but you know I mean that's what it is.
Speaker 2:No, we, we, we, we, we gonna be honest. Man, you want that brother to come home. Cook that man a meal, let the house be clean and shut up when he get there.
Speaker 4:I say more. So good, just give him peace.
Speaker 5:Yeah, hey, I bring all of them in the home in them situations. You ain't gotta have to me. Hey, I get a second job. You know what I got? A good woman.
Speaker 6:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's.
Speaker 5:Man, we, we've gotten away from the basic stuff, bro, yeah you were right about that.
Speaker 2:So see what, what? What it is is that a lot of the women who were, you know, of age in the 80s, in the 90s, they basically maybe they were single mothers and they had to do it. They sell right. So they raised their daughters To not want a man, therefore, to be a man and just think this whole independence thing is the way to go and it's a, it's a warp way of thinking.
Speaker 5:Right, oh yeah, oh yeah, instead of just saying baby, you know what I messed up? I had a baby before I got married and stuff like that. Don't be like me. Your mama meant Well, but I just got caught up. I want you to do better than me, but no, she want to. She want to bring an excuse to kind of don't look at what I messed up at. You can do it by yourself, girl. Look at me, I don't know. That ain't good.
Speaker 3:You know, the feminists also had a big part to play in that too.
Speaker 5:So Exactly, so exactly yeah.
Speaker 3:All right, so we're gonna move on to the final topic. But before we get on the final topic, let me ask you a question real quick, you know, since we talked about fanny and this whole trump name. Do you brothers by a pair of those sneakers?
Speaker 2:I was. I was joking earlier as trump as trump said.
Speaker 3:You know you sneak a heads you sneak a head.
Speaker 4:So yeah, but you know what's funny about that?
Speaker 2:I think he was wearing white and blue, maybe not gold, though.
Speaker 3:What you say, your mom. He got a silver pair too.
Speaker 5:Now he got a silver pair out there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think, I think for me that's get. Well, let's see.
Speaker 5:Gold shoes. Hey, now, once back in the day it would be a hundred percent gave a. Nowadays they love them like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they ain't getting on.
Speaker 3:I mean, I ain't wearing no gold sneakers.
Speaker 2:I I still think I think, uh, what's the Jones? They wear clogs. What are they? Crocs? I think I think no man should be wearing no man should be wearing a croc.
Speaker 3:That's just me and uh.
Speaker 2:Crocs and uh, no, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, but you know I had to put that out there because they said that appear his sneakers signed. The other day I sneaker con went for nine thousand dollars. Wow and he actually three hundred and ninety nine dollars sneakers, but you know.
Speaker 4:Any of you brothers changing your mind now?
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 2:I'll go get a pair of joins before I ever do that. I would never do that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I would never pay for no trump sneakers man I would never support.
Speaker 5:I'll buy him and resell and make some money off it.
Speaker 3:Which most people are doing that. Yeah, that's why I sure they do yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:I can't support them and I couldn't support him in the way fashion.
Speaker 2:For me. For me wouldn't even be by supporting them. It's like these is ugly.
Speaker 3:I would never they're ugly asem, but you know people actually gonna buy him, that won't be no on this program, but somebody gonna buy, you know, I mean.
Speaker 4:I didn't even. I didn't even know, because when I watched it on the news the other day they was making the same. Like he had such a great time to sneak a comment, I thought it was like like weird because it wasn't in feeling. Yeah but here's the funny part. Somebody told me later that they booed them there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, for some of the snickers, yeah.
Speaker 4:They didn't show it. You know, I mean like his, I guess his press people, pr people did the Fugazi garbage and whatever, whatever. From what I understand they said they booed them and stuff like that.
Speaker 5:I don't know, dude. The media, the media is dirty man. They'd programming us, bro. They show us what they want us to see. Yeah that's crazy.
Speaker 2:Speaking of that Are you brothers, ready for November.
Speaker 4:What's going on in?
Speaker 2:November election.
Speaker 5:Yeah, now check this out.
Speaker 3:Yeah, this election.
Speaker 5:This is what I come up with. This is what I come up with when it comes to that presidential election. Why vote? Because I vote don't matter. It's an electoral college. That's what counts right.
Speaker 4:Hey, listen, hey hope I've been telling everybody. I already know my stance on this man. You know I'm a proud non-voter, right, and I never had a voters registration card. Man, never had. So really, you never voted, never voted. Wow, I knew it a long time ago, man, I knew it a long time ago man.
Speaker 2:I voted one time in 96. But Ron got you caught up who no 96.
Speaker 4:97.
Speaker 3:That's like when he just got the voters registered. Man, you voted for slick.
Speaker 4:Willie, you voted for. Slick Willie, you got your excited At the time.
Speaker 2:I was just hyped to be voting Like yeah, he was happy to be voting.
Speaker 3:I'm basically grown now 96.
Speaker 2:And never did it again.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I never voted, man. I never had a voters registration card. No, you know, I heard that Malcolm X balloted a bullet when I was a kid man. It made so much sense to me. Ever since then, I never did it. I was understanding that electoral college thing back then, man.
Speaker 5:What do you say?
Speaker 4:Well, it's just basically saying, like you know, when it comes to voting, you're saying how, by giving you the right to vote, they take away the right for you to vote. You know you have a hand in the process, but you really don't have a hand in the process.
Speaker 5:You know, because of the electoral college.
Speaker 4:So now, but the whole point is just to give you the thought process that you are in it, you know what I mean. So when people say to you you know, the world can be going, the United States can be going totally wrong. For you, the president can be totally destructive, and then some and this has been going on continuously for us as black people and then people will always look at you and say but did you vote?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I vote meant nothing anyway. It doesn't matter. You know what I mean, Especially if you know anything about the electoral college. It really doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:If you know anything about this country, it doesn't matter. Like this country was set up in a political system not for us. We were designed to be always be second class citizens in this country.
Speaker 4:The fact that some little small town in West Bubble in the United States got the same electoral votes as some major city where you know there's minorities and whatever. You know what I mean. It's total bullcrap, man. You know what I mean it might be, no.
Speaker 5:What about voting local in local elections? You think that matter because there's no electoral college in local elections?
Speaker 2:It has more of an effect on your everyday life.
Speaker 5:Exactly so. That's where I vote. I vote on those, not the national election.
Speaker 4:I don't vote on any of them Because, again, I'm going to tell you where I found out is that you know, especially coming from New York, man, it's like we have these people that come in the neighborhood who supposedly these local politicians, and you know they come there when it's time to get voted in. You don't ever see them again, man. I've already seen what they do in the community. I never see their hand in the community. So it really I mean people say you know, I've heard brothers such as yourself, you guys say you know they vote in the local election because they feel like they got a better shot at a hand in it, but in reality I've never seen anybody in the local election do anything for anybody in my community.
Speaker 5:Hello.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I just don't see no hand in it.
Speaker 4:Ever have you noticed anything different than changing the youth? I don't even put it like this. I've seen local politicians come through and then I never seen them again. And then, even if you want to get deeper than that, you start talking about mirrors and stuff like that. You know, I always say I remember watching David Dinkins in New York running around in New York in the Kenton cloth. Everybody got a man. I think he's the first black man in New York City, so everybody feeling good. We ain't seen David Dinkins until, like he was trying to get reelected next joint man. I remember in the Jamaicans and everything in Labor Day Fest was throwing beer at his limousine. I was on Easter Park with him when he was done. Yeah, man.
Speaker 4:They made him get out of there, man.
Speaker 2:I think I told this story before, but I'll tell it real quick. My pie was like in first grade or something like that and Wilson Good was running for mayor of Philadelphia. He was going to be the first black mayor and we was walking around with signs and all that. You know, elect Wilson Good, or whatever. A few short years later, this nigga dropped a bomb on the move organization. You know what I'm saying? Wilson Good.
Speaker 1:I thought it was Frank.
Speaker 3:Rezos administration, wasn't it Frank?
Speaker 2:Rezos. No, no, no, no, it was Wilson.
Speaker 3:Good, it was Wilson.
Speaker 5:Good Really.
Speaker 3:I saw a documentary on move that said it was Frank Rezos.
Speaker 4:I thought it was Frank Rezos.
Speaker 2:No, not when the bomb came, it was Wilson Good.
Speaker 4:Wow, oh yeah. Wow, man, that's crazy, but you know it's funny. They pimped me out like that too, man, as a kid. I was in sixth grade they took us down to the synagogue on Easter Parkway and that's when Jesse Jackson made that Hymeetown comment and he disrespected Jews and whatever like that. And then they pimped him out and forced him to go to the synagogue. So my school right, they took us all down there. We're sitting behind Jesse Jackson as he gives his speech and pleading to the Jews about Hymeetown or whatever like that man.
Speaker 3:Also a classic Eddie Murphy sketch on Saturday Night Rive.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Hymeetown. Yeah, yeah, man, so I got pimped out too, man, they pimped us out. You know they love to put some black kids behind a politician man.
Speaker 2:That's it, that's it.
Speaker 4:Make it seem like it's a good thing or whatever like that they know they don't get too sensitive about them. Black kids in the neighborhood.
Speaker 2:Check this out too right, I come home at 08. And they was like hey, you know you can vote. I'm like I can't vote. Like you know, y'all stripped all that away from me. They like, no, this new referendum you can vote. Come on and vote. Like nah, I'm cool. I'm saying like that's just going to sound right. I mean, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6:They try to set you up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all the blackness in me is like go vote for the brother, but my mind is like yo, something ain't right.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you know.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I'm going to tell you I voted for Barack and my reason for voting for him was for the historical moment that was happening to first black president. That was my only reason for voting for him. I didn't know his politics, I didn't know nothing. I only voted for him for that reason.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, if I would have voted, I would have voted for Barack too, simply because he was black. Yeah, yeah, because it's historical.
Speaker 5:It's historical man.
Speaker 4:Forget about his political views, anything, man. You said just vote for him because he's a brother. I felt the heart to need to. You want to get down with that? I said, nah, man, I can't do it. Man, I know this is a shame. I always believed voting was a shame, man.
Speaker 5:I don't know, man. I think you believe Santa Claus is white too.
Speaker 4:I did it one time, man, yeah man, oh man, oh man.
Speaker 3:Y'all crazy man.
Speaker 2:Hey, listen, let's go to this last topic man Santa Claus.
Speaker 3:Let's go to this last topic. So we know that I believe was last year, right around this time actually that you know Malcolm X's family, along with attorney Ben Crump, who you know what I got to say this publicly, you know what I mean. I actually on this show several times. We all have given Ben Crump a really hard time.
Speaker 6:In the beginning.
Speaker 3:In the beginning all right, and you know we had a chance to go see the brother speak about a week ago and everything like that. You know he dropped a lot of jewels within that conversation so and he gave my respect.
Speaker 2:He gave my respect.
Speaker 3:And you know watching the documentary on Netflix prior to all of this. You know what I mean and I've said this before. You know it kind of changed my opinion on the brother, however, I mean, if he does something crazy, we will keep.
Speaker 4:He can get a clip Anytime, anybody else, but for right now.
Speaker 3:Absolutely. But for right now I will say, yes, I do have some respect for Ben Crump and we got to give him some credit, because you know, the reason why we heard about it is the topic that we're going to discuss.
Speaker 4:And then we heard the Henry out of Lacting how he helped the family out. You know and some of the pharmaceutical companies.
Speaker 3:So we give him credit for that and also about dropping that bomb, about John Hopkins saying that when he went back to do the investigations about the Henry out of Lact situation and talk to the older cats in the neighborhood, they told him about how John Hopkins allegedly kidnapped black people at night and did experiments on them, which you know really doing my due diligence on it and if we find some information we definitely will be dropping it on this show because everybody is in that auditorium perked up when he said that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:But you remember when we talked about the thing that was going on at Homesburg and how the university of Penn was into that too, doing those experiments on those prisoners. So it's believable.
Speaker 3:Yes, very believable. Oh yeah, definitely Very believable.
Speaker 4:In the history of America period we've been getting guinea pigs for everything. You know what I mean, so very much. Blacks and Jews are the guinea pigs of medical science.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 4:People don't even understand.
Speaker 5:Wait, wait, wait. Who you say black and Jews?
Speaker 4:Blacks and Jews. Man Blacks and Jews.
Speaker 2:Why are you?
Speaker 4:putting Jews in it.
Speaker 2:Because of the Holocaust.
Speaker 3:Because of the Holocaust.
Speaker 4:Because of the Holocaust? No, no, no, because in the Holocaust, hitler, a lot of stuff that we know about how hot you got to be in order for you to die, or your heart to give up, and how cold you got to be in order for you to die. Whatever, a lot of that information comes from Hitler.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know what's funny about that.
Speaker 5:That may be true, but what about right now? Are they still working on Jews now, like they working on us?
Speaker 3:No, Absolutely not. Oh, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 4:But I'm saying but we can't deny the fact that they actually went through it.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. I mean they deny the fact that we went through it.
Speaker 3:They, they listen. That's a topic for another show, brothers, I mean, you know what I mean? Because if we keep going on and on, man, we're going to forget about what is happening right now, which is the fact that you know again, the family of Malcolm X, with attorney Ben Crump, was suing the CIA, the FB on the NYPD for a hundred million dollars for them, you know, accusing them of playing a role in Malcolm's death Right. So, as of today, crump said that he has two new witnesses in that case and so they had a press conference about that. And here's what's happening on this one, guys. It said the civil rights and personal injury attorney, ben Crump, is scheduled to announce what she did today New witnesses and alleged conspiracy cases surrounding Malcolm X assassination.
Speaker 3:So he had a press conference which we'll play a clip of that says that his co-counsel, ray Hamlin and Flint Taylor Taylor, will be introducing two new witnesses who have offered evidence in the case. The press released labels the witness as security associates who have never spoken publicly before and were arrested one week before the civil rights leaders was was killed. So of course we know he was killed on February 21st 1965. And he was only 39 years old at the time while speaking at the Audubon Ballroom where they had the press conference at.
Speaker 3:So what happens is that they said that the NYPD, the FBI and the CIA was listed as co-conspirators. However, the theories have been proven, so it's not even theory anymore, it's a fact. So Hamlin and his team said they secure more information and that they say, well, point the finger at the FBI for trying to cover up a conspiracy to murder Malcolm X. He also mentioned, as Eugene Roberts, a former NYPD informant who acted as Malcolm X associate witness, a dress rehearsal at the Audubon Ballroom for Malcolm's pending assassination a week prior to it. So, it says, roberts claimed that he heard someone say the famous line that we all know nigga get your hand out, my pocket at the dry run.
Speaker 3:And then he gave the information to the FBI but was unaware of what they did with the information and still unclear who organized the dry run. So that's where we at with it right now. So that's where we at with it right now.
Speaker 4:I said he was sketchy. It took him like 27 years to come out the closet and speak on what he spoke on and he was dangerous. Eugene Roberts right.
Speaker 3:I don't know if that was the one they gave it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:He's the one who gave Malcolm X Malcolm off his hesitation man For all we know what was he done.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he could have been blowing into his body. Yeah, who knows. But we know that Jericho Hoover said it wouldn't be another Black Messiah and he had a thing where he was trying to kill everybody. We found out recently that the FBI, cia, was behind the murder of Dr King, and Dr King didn't die because he got shot. They gave him a needle at the hospital. So, yeah, we are aware of this and I believe it.
Speaker 4:Well, a lot of people don't know as to what King is. That this is on record. You know what I mean With the family. I think the family was able to stay after that because of what King went through, and even right now with this guy, which is crazy. This is what we're talking about right now. We understand that they need extra witnesses and all this other stuff like that. Gene Roberts was in there. We already know this. This has been put out there for years. He's been in the Audubon ballroom. He was a part of a task force in New York City Police I think it was called Boss or something like that and what they did was is they were surveilling them. So the fact that it took them 26 years to come out and say that man, it's dead now I believe Gene Roberts, and it took them 26 years to come out to even tell that, and he told us a long time ago what went on.
Speaker 3:About three years ago.
Speaker 4:Yeah. Why are we still acting like the government didn't know what was going on? If nothing else, if they didn't have any involvement with it, they knew what was going to happen and they let it go. If nothing else, at the bare minimum, they just let it go.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and that's crazy in itself. So now what Ben Crumpin was saying during the press conference is that, with everybody being held accountable, like we got to see where Matt Adams is at with it, like we can't just sweep all this under the rug because the NYPD is a part of this $100 million lawsuit. So what I want to do is I want to play a clip from this particular press conference. It's like I'm going to link it into the description, y'all, so that way you can watch it yourselves, because it's a rather long press conference, but just to give you an idea of what's going on. So this is attorney Ben Crump addressing Malcolm X assassination 59 years later, with the revelation of two new witnesses.
Speaker 1:A legendary civil rights lawyer who works with the Chicago base, the People's Law Office, as well as attorney Ben Elson and attorney Hakeem Mohammed. They have a wealth of knowledge and history of holding the government accountable for the wrongful deaths of black leaders, the most notable being the death of Fred Hampton that they litigated and recovered the highest award at such time for the killing of a black leader, and so the family of Malcolm X is honored to have them join our team. We are honored to represent Eliasa and her sisters in what has been a quest for justice for 59 years. Today. They have been fighting to get to the truth, to finally hold NYPD and the federal agencies responsible for conspiracy to assassinate their father, malcolm X.
Speaker 3:I just wanted to say real quick, given that Ben Crump has taken this case on, do you think this kind of puts him? I hate to say this, but like in the crosshairs, Because now you kind of go on If he wasn't already, if he wasn't already, because if you're dealing with the death of black people by police or whatever, you know what I mean, but now you're talking about you going after the CIA and FBI and all of these things.
Speaker 4:I think those things are so old Like anybody that had anything to do with that is pretty much dead. You ain't worried about that or whatever like that, and this is how we usually get our money. This ain't nothing new. It's the same thing that happened with, I think with like Geronimo Pratt and Johnny Cochran. You know what I mean. After everybody's almost dead or close to death, they start cutting checks. You know what I mean, Because they can't deny some of the truth.
Speaker 3:But what about the further black eye that it puts on something like the NYPD?
Speaker 4:NYPD has been dirty. I mean, they've been dirty, but this is like we're talking about this, what Malcolm X died in, what 60, maybe what 68? Something like that.
Speaker 3:I forget what year it was.
Speaker 4:Something like that in the 60s, 65. We were talking about the NYPD for the 60s, we know. We know him in the 70s and 80s. What was going on in the 60s was horrible. You know what I mean. So they had no credibility back there anyway. You know what I mean.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah, ben Crum here, a smart dude man. He's a real smart dude. I appreciate the work that he's doing, but I just wish he'd find another spokesperson to speak, because his speech is making sound low and dumb. I don't like that. Yeah, you know what's funny? He's very onigorous. Yeah yeah, no shade at all. No shade, I'm just being straight up.
Speaker 4:You know what, bro? What's funny? You hit it on the head. I was looking for it for a long time. No, he sounds like he has some sort of speech impediment or something is going wrong. You hit it on the head. I've been looking for it, man.
Speaker 5:Yeah, that's what it is. He's a smart dude and he's passionate. I appreciate all of that.
Speaker 4:He's not a great orator, man.
Speaker 5:No, he's not. He's not. It's like me. I love to sing, but the fact of the matter is I can't sing, so I'll listen to somebody else sing funny, but I love to sing. So he may love to talk, but the people that is not going to receive you as strongly as they could because of the way you sound.
Speaker 4:But you know what, though? It's funny that you say that, right, because when we went to see him live, even though he had that issue, the information that he was dropping was so important that I enjoyed the conversation. But what you're talking about is and this is the problem I probably have when I'm over here, because anytime I got to see him it was through sound bites on the news and stuff like that, and I'm like, why is he talking like that? And it would turn me off. So yeah, you're right man.
Speaker 4:But, when I did see him in person man I like actually his information and stuff that he was giving out was inspiring man, yeah, I can believe that Definitely was.
Speaker 2:I actually spoke to the brother after everything was over and he had his hat caught to the side. It was weird you know what I'm saying being as though you just dropped all this knowledge and information and now you like regular dude. I appreciate it. I'm dying on love because it didn't make him seem hearty, so I actually did appreciate it. But it was just we're like you know.
Speaker 5:Like you still in the public. You ain't at the picnic yet.
Speaker 4:You want. You want them to be like Malcolm, you want to be militant. 110%.
Speaker 5:Just more polished. That's all it's like. It's like McDonald's, right. You got McDonald's and the building of McDonald's nice and beautiful and clean all the time, nice and yellow and bright. And then you got another place right next to it that may have birth, better food, tasting food, but it's not as shiny as McDonald's. Right about a human nature, a child or baby. Anybody's not got knowledge. They're gonna go towards the McDonald's they got worse food Rather than going on to the restaurant. They don't look so high, but yet the food is better. There is better quality.
Speaker 4:Better quality food right.
Speaker 2:I like that analogy and I'm gonna, you know, jump on behind that and say I'll wait in the line of Chick-fil-A because they so nice, you know.
Speaker 4:Presentation is so much better yeah.
Speaker 5:Exactly, exactly, so it works.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know all right, so let me top on a little bit more this before we wrap up.
Speaker 1:Yeah we've had Mr Mustafa Hassan come Forward, who was there in the Audubon theater when Malcolm was assassinated, and he revealed new evidence, new information for the first time ever that when he actually had Captured, was able to grab one of the shooters. When NYPD officers ran up, the first thing they said Was is he with us? Is he one of us as they tried to help him escape? And Mr Mustafa Hassan's observation. Now, today, we have two Additional individuals who are, for the first time, talking about what happened 59 years ago. You're going to hear from mr Khalil Saeed Ramakrishna and You're going to hear Alpha David read by mr Walter Bo, who is 93 years old, who was one of the founders of the organization for African-American Unity, the organization that was founded by Malcolm X after he left the nation of Islam. Present here with us are his daughter, kai Bo, as well as Nandi Bo. Their father is having some health issues and that is the reason he's not here with us today.
Speaker 3:So yeah, like I said, this press conference, you're going to hear from a lot of different people, but I'm going to link that in the description for everybody to Take a look at, you know, I mean because I don't want to end, the interest of time, I don't want to go through the whole thing, but yeah, what do y'all think? What's your thoughts on?
Speaker 4:that. Oh, put it on the head, man, I can't take your speech, man. I was looking for the answer, man, and I was like man, what is wrong?
Speaker 3:That's what you got it what you tapping on with J Rob, what you got.
Speaker 2:It's funny because this hearing that, that little sound bite, he do sound like he needs somebody else to speak for him, but the other night, I don't know, I don't know if it was the energy in the building, but it just sounded like he, he was. He was hitting all the correct notes the other night.
Speaker 4:Well, you know what it is. I don't think he sound like that the other night. You know what I think he's trying to do. It's almost like he's trying to do like a, a jacked up version of Martin Luther King or something like that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean yeah, he's talking. Well, he also said the night that we saw Free at last, that he was on. We saw him, that he was actually, you know, there's so many black people in the room that day, man maybe. Maybe just a regular conversation, you know I mean.
Speaker 4:That's how you sound, like you're doing a jacked up version of Martin Luther King. Man, like you said, man the brother, doing some good work man, I want to diminish that with the speech.
Speaker 3:But I get what you're saying. But you know, I mean but what do y'all think about this case? What do you think about the new evidence on this thing?
Speaker 4:It got so much evidence on this stuff already, man, I don't even know what they can do to put that through. I mean, I think they even had a letter, and I talked to you about that earlier. They had a letter from a, from a guy on his deathbed, a police officer, who was kind of, I guess, ashamed about his involvement in it and he was saying it was all the setup. I mean, they had a letter from a man on his deathbed. He gave it to his cousin to read once he died and it was something that bothered him. From that point on he sold, you know, basically sold out mouth, sold out Malcolm.
Speaker 4:And, uh, you know, again they had a. They got a agent in the room giving them out the mouth for cessation. And I Thought the whole thing with the agent long time was for gazey man, where it took you 26 years to come out about it, and then when you come out about it, you talk about how good you were and how you were helping them out and all the other stuff Like that, but your goal was to stab them in the back.
Speaker 4:Right you know I mean so. I don't, I don't get it, man, like it's not, like they hired you to get in there and and help them. You know I mean they hired you to get in there and destroy them. You know I mean so. And then somehow you ended up, out of all the people there His wife's, his nurse and everybody you end up as the guy giving Malcolm X mouth to mouth for cessation.
Speaker 2:Yeah, don't make sense.
Speaker 5:Yeah, but, but. But it seems like it's a reoccurring thing that just happens to all of our black leaders, because Even afraid of him and I know y'all seeing Judas in the black Messiah yeah, it's closest to our bodyguard Turned on him, I mean, but he was in a farming from the beginning, um, uh, how sharp. And come to find out that he was a government and for he was working for the FBI, he was right there with Martin Luther King and Malcolm X, and so so it's always gonna be.
Speaker 3:Don't forget about just yeah, I was gonna say Jesse Jackson has some.
Speaker 5:What about Jesse? He was in the farming too.
Speaker 3:Let me tell you something man, a rainbow coalition.
Speaker 4:What about that? Just the name of the rainbow coalition. They were two, six for me.
Speaker 3:Well, you know, I don't hold thing kind of operated, as you know. Basically, if I walk in your company and I see that there's not enough black people here, you know we're gonna kick up some dust or right you kick out Maybe, maybe. But there's some sandal. You can kick up dust or kick out. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4:So oh, so you can hire some people, you can take a check, you know I mean, or you can give us a check.
Speaker 5:You know I mean.
Speaker 3:Well, the rainbow color.
Speaker 4:I'll tell you one thing about the rainbow coalition that always tick me off and I remember bill o'rally called him out on this Long time ago. No, you know, fair enough, bill o'rally, but I think he was telling them, like you'll listen, like you get millions of dollars to run this, to run this organization, and we don't see what it does. The government pays. I think I, once I'm another, will pay him like a few million dollars a year To run the rainbow coalition. Now I'm from new york. I've lived in north kong hana and in jersey, lived in dollar, where I've lived in different places. All you brothers, philly, alabama, you know different place. Have you ever seen an office with a rainbow coalition operated out of?
Speaker 5:never, no, no, no, I understand it's. I've been to a double, a couple of nwcp Meeting the stuff and they always a little rink of ding spots, you know nothing, really professional looking. But you got to realize, man, there's so many hands in our we're suffering to keep us, you know, in a in a working class position. There's so many games and tricks being played on us that we don't even realize and I don't even know what's going on. And then they got us going at it with each other Doing that work. You know, and and and and. We don't trust each other. We don't have no resources.
Speaker 5:You can have a dude they got a plethora of knowledge talking to the young boys, but he walking around with some bobo shoes on and looking dirty, they're not gonna pay him no mind, you know. But we got to look the part to grab their attention of. These young people are just black people, period. You know, like, like I was saying about being crump, being crump got a lot of knowledge and stuff, but he's not the one to be in front of that camera all the time. You know, speaking like that, we need to have more leaders. Why are they just giving us this one? Being crump, it's a lot of more black leaders out there to speak for us. I don't want to be in that one category where being crump speak for me all the time.
Speaker 4:You know what I? I'm glad you said it, because I think we were talking about this before and I hate that Because we don't know who the jewish Great lawyer is. You know, I mean we don't know who the chinese great lawyers for chinese justice or anything like that. It's only for black people. We got these, you know you can name him Johnny Cochran.
Speaker 3:Where's Gary?
Speaker 4:Yeah, william Gary was due at Harlem Percy, whatever it named Percy Sutton, you know. I mean you can go back through history and you could pick out all of these great attorneys. Uh, what was the?
Speaker 5:uh, uh Marshall.
Speaker 4:Durga, marshall, and you know why do we have like these? Just you know, one time like these generational, every other generation. We have this great black attorney that takes on these you know roles or whatever the case might be, and then other ethnic groups. You just have attorneys that just take on issues. Why is he the only one that's doing this thing? You know what I mean, do you think maybe?
Speaker 3:it's because most of the cases that take on, that they take on involving our people are more publicized than, say, the Asian community, or you know what I mean. I think what it is they're going to be known.
Speaker 4:It's when there's something wrong in the Asian community. You probably got people uh, you know fighting over to get to the, to the problem. You know what I mean. Like, for instance, I'm not too much.
Speaker 6:It don't make those other communities.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but in those other communities the economics speak for.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So they don't necessarily have to have a front man, that's that's a lawyer, because they can speak money.
Speaker 4:We can't do that. I think, I think, I just think that they have people that are drawing straws to get at the opportunity to correct an issue. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Like we had a lot of. We were like a lot of Asian hate crimes that was going on, right and those are very publicized. But I've never seen anybody take on any major Asian hate crime case and say this is the lawyer for that particular case or anything, but that's how we are.
Speaker 4:Period is black people man, we always got to have like one good attorney, one good leader, a spokesman or something like that. You know what I mean. Like it's it doesn't seem like this happens in no other community but ours. You know what I mean and again, I think that's another thing too is I think you said it earlier, pope is that we allow them to choose these people for us, you know what I mean. Who said Ben Crump was the guy. You know what I mean.
Speaker 5:We just a lot of. You want to get a propagation from.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they just catapult them into a position and then you know who says Barack was the guy. You know what I mean.
Speaker 5:Right.
Speaker 4:I mean no no, let's.
Speaker 5:Let's say, 20 years from now we're going to find out that Ben Crump was an FBI informant and then we're going to be all in shock, like we are, about Al Sharpener and and the rest of these guys that pop up later.
Speaker 4:You know what I mean, it's just something that we we do in our community. That's crazy yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm, I'm, I'm going to say this about Ben Crump when you, when you, when you think of a person of that nature, of that, you're looking to be dazzled by a brilliant speaker, a brilliant mind. And I didn't get that. I got, I got regular person from you know what I'm saying. But I felt, I felt, but I still felt energized by what he was saying, but I didn't get. Oh, he's so brilliant.
Speaker 4:Cause I think what we left, that meeting the men Mike was talking about it and I was saying like it's funny that we brought up this conversation. I was like well, why is it only him? Like, why aren't there? Like there's a brother in every state that's an attorney that's attacking these issues and different things like that. You know what I mean. Like why do we seem like we only have like one one God to do it every night?
Speaker 5:And they put fear in us too. They put fear in a lot of us, cause we don't want to lose our freedom, we don't want to lose our money, you know, and they control us like that, cause they know we don't want to lose those things but, like from my understanding of the people in Haiti, they don't mind dying for the cause. You know what I mean. No, so those are some dangerous guys to to deal with, because they would get out here and put it all on the line and be for real about it. We don't have a hesitation.
Speaker 4:But that goes back to what we was talking about, that Malcolm X thing where it's like see those Haitian people know that they don't have a hand in the process. You know what?
Speaker 6:I mean.
Speaker 4:So it's easy to. It's easy to stand up and go to war. You know what I mean.
Speaker 5:It's, it's it's, they were successful. They were successful. They kept the British away by being that way. Yeah.
Speaker 4:But even also to and like Africans. I'm just saying that you know that whole voting process, man, take your, take your mindset to say, well, we have some, we have a fight. You know we have a hand in the process. A lot of these countries like that, these third world countries in different places, they know that we don't have any hand in the process. So what happens is they're easy to revoke. You know what I mean.
Speaker 5:And then the, the.
Speaker 4:the scale from having to have not to so far from each other is like we ain't got nothing else to do with fight, fight and not not, not to mention in America.
Speaker 2:We see all the black leaders. They get killed. They're the one. You know what I'm saying. So it's like if you do have some knowledge of something and you're able to be your charismatic and you're able to the leader crowd, to have people follow you, at what detriment is that to your family? You understand? Like your family needs you too. I know the cause needs you, but your family needs you Like. Do you want to die Trying to trying to trying to save the people?
Speaker 3:A lot of people thought that way, though there's another.
Speaker 4:There's another thing. That's about black leaders. If you notice the ones that get killed, it's not really about them getting killed because of you know what they're speaking on. You know initially, like when you look at Malcolm, that's initially initially he's a racist. He's talking some good things but he's talking a lot of racist things. You look at Martin Luther King and his thing was just civil rights and all the other stuff like that. But when that message becomes economic, that's when you get killed. I mean, when you start talking about economics and you take color out of the process. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4:You start talking, because I think we were talking about this one time, I think in the Birmingham jail, like I think they was talking about how there was a white CEO that was that Martin Luther King was talking to and he was saying to him like yo, y'all don't get no money. Like the CEO happened to show him his check and he was like yo, listen, like you should be in here struggling with us because you ain't getting no money. And a lot of times they get played out of their position because they think they're part of the Republican process but they don't know. They look that as white trash and on the bottom of the barrel, whatever the case may be, but they think the only thing that makes them a Republican is their white skin. So he was saying basically like I think you know that's when Martin started the poor man's march and all that other stuff. Like that's when he started getting killed. Nobody cared.
Speaker 4:When you talk about this race stuff, when you start talking about bringing cultures together because of the economic issues that suppress poor people all around the world, you end up in a box. That's how it is, man, yeah.
Speaker 3:All right, fellas, I'm going to wrap this one up for the night. Yeah, another good conversation, guys, Another hour.
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