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'Bling Bishop' Lamor Whitehead Found Guilty!
From the pulpit to the cold iron bars of a prison cell, the journey of the 'bling Bishop' raises questions about redemption, second chances, and the sincerity of a criminal's transformation. We confront the uncomfortable truth that while some leaders cloak themselves in humility, others succumb to greed under the guise of spirituality. This episode is not just about a fallen preacher; it's about the broader epidemic of exploitation within the church and how these dynamics play out in the deeply woven fabric of the black community and beyond.
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Speaker 3:Welcome to the only one, my podcast. How you doing Good, good, but all right. Well, they got them. We want to touch on that real briefly. Listen, this had to be said because you know anybody that listened to this show. No, we've been on this. This cat back for a minute In regards to this, and here's shenanigans. We got to keep you got to keep your foot on a neck man, you know, I mean. So they got them. They got them with you about that.
Speaker 1:It's beautiful beautiful thing, that, yeah you know what?
Speaker 2:I'm gonna get the other guy. I'm standing in Georgia. What's the other one?
Speaker 3:who also.
Speaker 2:Texas. In Texas was a brother. Wait, uh, brian. Brian, is it all right, I'm all right.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, yeah they pretty sure they waiting for him. He's start putting his weed crops, whatever it is he want to do. But yeah man, hey they, they got this. Joke it, man. You know he's widely known as the bling Bishop. Yeah, he's gonna be playing bling Bishop. So he was found guilty of multiple charges and so Monday was after he was accused of stealing $90,000 from from a parishioner and using the money to buy luxury items and trying to extort a businessman and promise him Favors from New York City Mayor Eric Adams in return for lucrative deals. Now they were saying that you know he was Pumping Mayor Adams name, I guess, saying he knew him from back in the day. So a lot of his businesses are trying to, you know, get business Transactions rock and by a sand wall I can get your favors from the mayor's office and stuff right.
Speaker 2:Naturally, you know, yeah, you know just totally moved itself away from that particular yeah, just just like Grammy politicians, they like to stand on the backs of some, some old slimy preacher. They love a slimy preacher politicians man.
Speaker 3:Yeah yeah, that's just historic for some reason, I guess, because they can, you know, grab the, grab the black community. They try to do that to get you know they has in the pockets of the black community. You know, if we can get them then we can shift a lot of things our way. You know me like them.
Speaker 2:They like them black preachers, because the black preachers are going to church and tell people to vote.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely, and they will have those politicians you know right there in the church Should be preaching the word, talking politics. But you know, this is what happened with him. He was convicted of two counts of wire fraud one count of attempted wire fraud, one count of attempted extortion, each carrying a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison. He, additionally, was convicted of one of one count of making false statements, which carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, according to the US attorney's office.
Speaker 2:So so a little different though, because it's a couple outlets saying something crazy, like he's facing anywhere for 45 to 50 years or something like that. So it's, I've heard it's like different news outlets.
Speaker 3:Yes, they're from those outlets. That's saying different things, you know.
Speaker 2:I mean they saying it is a kidding or whatever the case may be, but and they'll be honest with you.
Speaker 3:Let me give you some. I'm glad you said ask some contacts out. This is coming from USA today. Oh, that's that I'm getting this article from. So, of course, he's the pastor of the leaders of tomorrow International ministries, which sounds like a hustle even as you're reading leaders of tomorrow International ministries, because you know, like I said in previous shows, this has you know, leaders of tomorrow International ministries has nothing to happen.
Speaker 2:A good, old-fashioned church.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's not. What kind of church is this? It sounds like we just trying to do some motivational speaking or perhaps some investing tips or something like that has nothing to do with the Bible. He's helped form the leaders of tomorrow international ministries after serving five years in prison for identity theft and grand larceny. Now I don't know who goes to. You know this particular organization here, but you know I'm going with this. You know I mean it's a red flag. Yes, a red flag man, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3:I Can be forgiven, yes, yes, you know, I was going with it. Man and anybody can be forgiven, and not to mention the people can change, you know, under right circumstances. So I'm not gonna bang him if he say that was my past and I came up here and I'm preaching to people, you know, whatever and everybody has a past, that's just what it is right. However, you know me, he lived in a $1.6 million mansion In Jersey City, right? I?
Speaker 2:think the church and attempted churches in the hood.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry, not Jersey City in the city of Paramus, yeah Churches on a hood. If you ever seen like pictures of the church, it's like Elapidated. He own several apartment buildings in Hartford, connecticut, and in July he made headlines when he was robbed allegedly of one million dollars in jewelry in the middle of his church service and we all know what what that was.
Speaker 2:I mean it could be a hustle. I mean it could have been a situation where somebody's mind probably got jerked out of some money and they Went in put the hammer to him. I mean it could have been a whole lot of different things. Now None of you look at it. You know I mean cuz still nine, ninety thousand dollars from my mom and I ain't got no God in me. If I, if I didn't have any God in me, you know oh, you just might have had a loose moment.
Speaker 2:Might just go in there, throw the tool to war, or or you just know that he hustling. You know one thing, one thing about the hood is that you know a lot of Gangsters and stuff like that. I mean they stay away from messing around with church and church people, but when they see a hustle, you know, I mean they recognize a house.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and they'll tell you like this is wrong. You know me so yeah, you stick it up. The prosecutor revealed that whitehead, under the guise of aiding one of his parishioners and purchasing a home, persuaded her to invest about 90,000 of a retirement savings. Instead of fulfilling his promise, he diverted the money for his personal use and he's first on luxury items and other expenses. Now this is the reason why just go back to your point, that you can understand why somebody would have ran up in it.
Speaker 1:You know I mean yeah, you know.
Speaker 2:I mean, you see this guy riding around.
Speaker 3:Brooklyn shining.
Speaker 2:Taking somebody from something, from somebody grandmother or mother. Yeah, I mean, and you know, and you know, this ain't no God in it. And then you ain't a person to go to church like that. You know, I mean, you know, you know he hustling, you might go in there and put the tool to him.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So what happens is is he was, you know, when he was pressed to, you know, for the repayment of that 90,000, he'd, you know, swerved and did what hustlers do tried to talk him into not asking for the money and all of that jazz, right. So he tried to extort $5,000 from a businessman and later sought $500,000 loan, falsely promising favorable actions from the mayor of New York City in exchange, because he knew he could not deliver on the promises, why his actions amounted to attempted fraud and extortion. And this is according to the prosecutors, and and I would.
Speaker 2:Why would met Adams associate his self this dirt bag?
Speaker 3:No, you know what, and that's the thing. It could be just somebody that you knew you could have known before.
Speaker 2:That's. That would have been more reason for for me to stay away from you. I mean, if I know you from back in the days and you done did some crazy stuff on the street or whatever case may be, and I let's say, for instance, you was a drug dealer hustling anything back in the days and let's say now it's 20, 30 years From that time, you done did some, you know time in the penitentiary, you started a church and if it's legitimate or something like that, I've been from the mayor I'll probably say, oh, let me go see what such and such is doing, or whatever case may be. But if I roll up on you and I see you riding around in Bentley's and Wearing, you know, red suits and Louis Vuitton this and Louis Vuitton that, now bro.
Speaker 3:Yeah honestly, you know, be that that's probably not his man like you know. That's not like you know that's probably just somebody. You knew that that is.
Speaker 2:And yeah, you know we're near me as the mayor of New York.
Speaker 3:I don't believe he did at all. You know, I mean man, listen man, I don't probably like look, I don't know this cat like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't even. I wouldn't even matter of fact. If you told somebody you know me, I would correct that yeah yeah, and in fact I believe he did.
Speaker 3:I believe he did yeah Because if we look at, like you know, if y'all go back and listen to the previous show we did about this, I believe man Adams did like distance himself from this cat.
Speaker 2:Yeah, not distance. Yeah, I'd be like I don't know that dude.
Speaker 3:Well, you know, maybe I'm making a sound.
Speaker 2:I'll be clear. I'll be clear about what happened. Yo listen, I grew up in the city. I knew this guy from such and such and such. I don't mess with him. Yeah, I don't mess with him. He riding around in Bentley's and claiming he had church pastor. You know, this is some more Reverend Ike. Officer very much, so I know a hustle when I see one, I don't care where it's at you know, yeah, he getting a, he getting a, he should get it on this one man.
Speaker 3:It's made for the law, is made for the law. Less if this is what he did.
Speaker 1:That's what he did. Yeah, that's what he did I don't feel sorry.
Speaker 3:As the unanimous jury found, the more white head abused the trust placed it in him by a parishioner and tried to obtain a fraudulent loan using fake bank records, bully the businessman for $5,000 and tried to defraud him out of far more than that and lied to federal agents, which that was another thing he did Lied to federal agents. The US Attorney, damian Williams, said white heads, reprehensible lies and criminal conduct have caught up with him, as he now stands convicted of five federal crimes and faces time in prison.
Speaker 2:You know? I mean, we're going to show this in a few seconds. I think you got to queue it up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I'm ready.
Speaker 2:And I'm talking about his little statement after getting, I guess, convicted. And as you're watching, the comments roll down the screen. There's a lot of people making funny jokes about him going jail or whatever like that, but there is still people in there, that's like you know.
Speaker 3:Hold your head, bishop, and you know like, who are these people? I was looking at this too, I'm like who are you? Who are these nuts? Who?
Speaker 2:are you I?
Speaker 3:got a bridge I want to sell you you know, what I mean Like who are you?
Speaker 2:Listen, church is such a serious thing, man. If you're a family member of mine, I don't care how much I love you, you know what I mean. You robbing, you robbing church people, I'm not going to be, I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I mean I don't. Obviously I want you to see you go to jail as a family member going the same token. Then again, I don't know, man.
Speaker 2:Listen, man You're stealing from the church man, like you know you taking money from people I can see you know spiritually, you know stealing is just not even you know what you're supposed to do. You know what I mean. But then you taking from people who are tied in and all the other stuff like that, you know that's crazy.
Speaker 3:Squeeze the more.
Speaker 2:Squeeze the people out of money, that's the man.
Speaker 3:You deserve what you get man, that's the man.
Speaker 2:You're making me change my philosophy, man. I'd rather say I don't want to see family in jail, but hey, listen, I'm stealing from the church If you defrauding people under the name of God.
Speaker 3:You up there to me with rapists and murderers. You know what I mean. In fact, you're worse than. You're worse than.
Speaker 2:It might be hard for you as family, even a family member, because of some commissary or something like that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, man, yeah man. Nah, you don't want to hustle that pipe, man.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So you get what you get, man, but it's amazing what you can see people like still promoting this guy. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:And it's sad because we often talk about this on the show we take. We take you know, church and God very seriously on here. You know what I mean, right, and when we talk about these guys and their actions, people tend to you know who don't know church and don't know the Bible the right way. You know what I mean Right. And look at these guys, the representation of you, know I could say such a term Christianity and things like that. They'll say yo, this is why I don't go to church.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's so many people right now probably reading that article today or you know reading, you know seeing what happened to him in essence.
Speaker 3:See, they're all like this. Yeah, yeah, everybody's like this, everybody's in the hustle.
Speaker 2:So and then? But again, his hustle was so obvious, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, even if he wasn't stealing from the lady or anything like that. There's just some things that you don't do within church and call yourself a preacher or a pastor.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. You ain't riding around. I'm not saying that a man can't have a nice car. You're a pastor and you work for a living. You know what I mean. You can get whatever you desire, but then you know, you're Louis Vuitton in the seats and you know what I mean, and now that you're wearing the white fish chips out, you know what I mean, yeah, you're catching Louis Vuitton bags and all kinds of craze.
Speaker 2:I'm not even saying you can't have some of those nice things, but again you've got to be humble man.
Speaker 3:You can't be walking around here flashy and fly, and then I say, if you again, if you go back and you look at the footage of the church that he has, if I could again say such a thing Now, if you look at what he has there with that organization, when you looked inside they were using like background drapes and stuff like that, like, but you was defrauding people out of like 90, 90 thousand dollars and things like that, and you know your joint is like over. I think it's like next to a Haitian restaurant or something like that.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. So you got on. You got on dapper dance suits and you know all kind of crazy garbage. You know probably the people that I'm assuming most of the people in the church is probably for from the community. None of them probably ain't even look nowhere near you as far as you know. No, no.
Speaker 3:And then, and then, if you go back to the first time, maybe, yeah, the first time we maybe one of the first times we talked about it. We talked about him, I think like twice, but one of the statements that one of the parishioners made was the reason why they followed him was because they saw him with all these nice things and they wanted to know how to get these nice things.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean. So it's like it wasn't really more or less about I'm going to him because he got the truth. I'm going to see the hustle. I want to understand what the hustle is about.
Speaker 2:That's what's going on, and that's what's going on in a lot of churches. It's just obvious with it. You know a lot of these churches and whatever you know these, a lot of these churches and organization stuff like that. That's what it's about. Rubber N' Elbows man.
Speaker 3:Rubber N' Elbows. Yeah, even in the high ups when you're looking at the potter's house and you know old steam's organization and you know what I mean Dollars organization and all that.
Speaker 3:That's what it is. It's the hobnobbing. So TDJs can go lay hands on on, uh, I mean that TDJs, uh, tyler Perry back in the part, tyler Perry can go lay hands on TDJs and he pass out and all of that. And you can say, like the people that's in the crowd is like well, I was there when Tyler Perry was there, you know, I said hide a Tyler or something. They ain't got nothing to do with the Bible.
Speaker 2:Just more like a social club.
Speaker 3:You know what I?
Speaker 2:mean your chances of getting close to these rappers and entertainers and uh, actors and stuff like that is slimming none in the streets. But if you go to these um hustle churches, they right there with you.
Speaker 3:And you get still. Depending on who you are, you still might not get next to them.
Speaker 2:You know, you still, you still might not get next to them, but who knows, you know these producers and whatever. You know. You don't think these, um, the people that's on the church choir, I don't think you know such and such is in the crowd. That's almost like a high school basketball game or whatever like that. They like, oh, they got, uh, what they call them. Uh, they got scouts in the stands.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know what I mean Speaking of which I mean we, we already had. I mean we're going to get back to Lamar right ahead in a second, but did you see it? It was like a video. I believe the guy, mike Todd, was it the so-called pastor is it Mike? Todd was getting a haircut while he was preaching.
Speaker 2:I didn't even see that man when they going with this stuff. It's so ridiculous yeah.
Speaker 3:I'm like he was getting a haircut while he was preaching.
Speaker 2:I'll tell you something. You want to see something sick I'm sick. Africa, oh yeah, yeah Africa. What they're doing down here in Africa with churches Absolutely ridiculous, man. And don't get me wrong, I thought America was bad man. Some stuff going on in Africa, man, they having sex in the church or kind of grass.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, man Eat grass.
Speaker 2:Uh yeah.
Speaker 3:Women stripping out of the drawers.
Speaker 2:You know the one with the dude is uh claimed that uh, him and his wife couldn't have a baby. And he was like oh church is in the congregation, why the pastor has his hand on the man's back or something like that, why he's having sex with his wife or something crazy like that. They got like a sheet over him in the church. I mean, there's people in the church.
Speaker 3:Some eyes wide shut type stuff it's just sick man yeah. So yeah, back to this guy man. He was also, um, you know, getting hit for submitting a fraudulent application for $250,000 business loan, fabricated bank statements to inflate his financial standings. I mean, the list goes on and on folks, I mean, and, and even from the video you know the video that he posted, you know, explaining this whole situation. He already know it's in the can.
Speaker 2:This man on that video, which we'll listen to in a second. Like I said, man, he didn't do anything different than what the hustlers do keeping the hustle going on. Man, it's just like the mafia. Like I got caught, I'm gonna put my next in charge. I'm going to the pen of attention to do this time and let's keep it going. Man, he's like he did, like what's this other? Like the rifle? Edmunds Wait for Edmunds. Dying jelly got a better connect.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and you know what you know. What's gonna be sad about this is the fact that people are still gonna follow him when he come up. They still are. They already queued up to follow him when he ain't. Might you know what the sad part about the false prophet is? He might get more.
Speaker 2:Tell you, man Dude already talking like claiming he likes some sort of martyr or something, yeah, yeah. He like that, he basically, you know, saying he's been persecuted like Daniel and Jesus.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you are not Jesus. Yeah, you know. I mean, come on, it's just, you know, everybody in the Bible went through different trials and tribulations.
Speaker 2:People were standing. These people were standing on the word. It wasn't in jail for defrauding some old lady.
Speaker 3:Alright, so check this out, man. We gonna go ahead and we gonna play. You know, give our analysis on his little statement here man. So this is a false prophet here Lamar Whitehead giving his final. It's fine, look at my before you get sent.
Speaker 1:I'm not gonna be long at all. First, I would like to say this right, I Want to thank God. Right, I want to thank God for all that he's done and all that he's doing, and it's disgusting man.
Speaker 2:You sound like one of them cats to get them Grammys for singing some more crazy song and be like yeah, I want to thank God. The song is like booties up or something like yeah, can you perform it in church?
Speaker 3:Yeah, all right, here we go.
Speaker 1:Can every one of you to understand, right, that we go through trials and tribulations in our life, right, and today the jury Convicted me in court. However, you know I still believe God, right, and I know that there's so many people and this is why I'm doing this live there's so many people that care about me and there's so many people that love me and there's so many people that's been praying. There's so many people that's been praying for me and and I don't want you guys to give up, right, I don't want you guys to give up. I don't want you to think that God let us down. I don't want you to Feel that you know, god didn't hear our prayers, right?
Speaker 3:I'll be honest with you, man. You got what you got, man.
Speaker 2:You know me. It was funny one of the comments says you get a little. You get a little 45. You be all right, I Want you to understand scripture.
Speaker 1:The most powerful men in the Bible had to go through some dangerous times, right.
Speaker 3:And listen to this.
Speaker 1:This is a trying time for me and my family, but you know, no matter what the media is going to say, no matter what the Social media is going to say, right, this bishop is still 10 toes down 10 toes down for what?
Speaker 2:What?
Speaker 3:You know what's. What's about these folks, man. This is guess is anybody who you know does something so long they believe that is right. Man, he don't think he's wrong. I don't know if he believes that he's wrong.
Speaker 2:Know he wrong and I believe he keeping the hustle going man. Yeah, man, just keep it. Keeping it, keeping it going man.
Speaker 2:I mean he could if, what you know, I mean a Moral man might come on say listen, man, I got caught up in the life, you know, let me change it, whatever. Whatever you know he's saying, listen, I probably got. He probably got another so-called bishop in the way, or something like that. So now he probably said, man y'all, listen to Harold, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do this for the five man Harold's in charge until I get back.
Speaker 3:Oh, what's it do? Jimmy Swaggit Even swaggered a minute. He was wrong when he slept with that lady. That it do it eventually.
Speaker 2:you know, yeah, he's he, but he knows he's different from swagger, he from the street. The hustle can continue, man, that's what he knows.
Speaker 3:He's gonna come back. It did not. The bitchy bet it was. I said this is important. It's because the cat was like you know. Like you know, great men in the Bible went through this dissonance. Listen hey yo listen, bro, you, they, they. They weren't brought up on charges of fraud, defrauding anybody. Man, yeah, you can't compare yourself. You know me. You can't compare yourself. You, paul. We talked about they wasn't worried about social media and what the media is saying about them. You are, you know me. Let's just get back into it, man.
Speaker 1:My turnies right Don Floreo, declan Murray and and Derek Dagwood man. They did an awesome job. They did a great job as best as possible, and I want to thank them for Doing what they can do.
Speaker 2:I know I never trust a man with his lips all greased up like that Absolutely man. It's weird man.
Speaker 3:Let's pause for the cause.
Speaker 2:Cam and them say pause man. But anytime you see some brother like that man like you got on. What's the clear lipstick the women wear?
Speaker 3:Lip gloss. We want to pause for the cause for a second man, just to address a few of these comments. So this false prophet has no respect for God. Please leave God out of your mess. This is one user here, rob the elderly, without remorse. Oh, and I'm not even gonna, you know, out of respect I'm not even gonna say the rest of what they said here, but a lot of expert tips. Stop comparing yourself to the men in the Bible. You know what I mean. It's that. How about Judas? You compare yourself to a lot of people. You are a thief. You put yourself in that position because of greed. Satan has you right in his hands and not once were you considering about your nasty ways. God don't bless mess. We all make mistakes, but still from this lady, whole life savings like really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I heard a preacher one time say man, these men are cold, they'll steal your food stamps.
Speaker 3:Yeah man. Oh, wait a minute, wait a minute. I wanna give a shout out to this person here, that educator chick. I don't know if you're listening, that educator chick, I'm gonna try to tag you in this particular one, but I have to applaud your statement here. She said I believe God too. That's why you were convicted. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Shout out to that educator chick.
Speaker 2:She's praying for this.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, man yeah man, Stop crying.
Speaker 2:man, go do that. Nickel man, that's easy work.
Speaker 3:All right, let's go back to his statement, man.
Speaker 1:He will be appealing and we're gonna do what we have to do. There are I have family. Right, I have family I have children. Listen to this. I have church members and I'm just asking you guys right to consider them.
Speaker 3:I'm going to stop it myself right there.
Speaker 2:Did you see the comment?
Speaker 3:I'm not even talking about the comment. I'm just going to say did you consider anybody's family when you stole that $90,000 finale that we laid?
Speaker 2:That's funny. That's the comment. Oh what, I didn't even see the comment.
Speaker 3:I'm glad we, on the same page, love what that was. Did you consider that? You know what I mean. You didn't consider their family.
Speaker 2:Let me tell you something. These people are so stupid, man. Some of these church people are so crazy If they let this nigga out of jail. You're thinking it was the second comment? Oh, man, if he can appeal and get out of jail. You would have to fight when these people tell you that he didn't send from the sky. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:You got people that are just that stupid man, Scripturally ignorant man, that they don't know that this is wrong.
Speaker 2:And, truthfully speaking, I don't even know if he did. I mean, I know he's convicted of it, but on the other side of it it's like come on, man, All the other stuff he been doing, bro. This is too much.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:You got to. You know you get his cars done up.
Speaker 3:Man Like he outpour Rich Porter or something like that yeah, man, you're right, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 2:He dippin' down in his cars, man Come on, man.
Speaker 3:Man, listen man, you're crazy man. Let's go back to it.
Speaker 1:I'm talking crazy and everybody's saying what they got to say, which cool dude you got to do. But consider my family, right? Consider my family. Consider my children. My children was texting me because of what was going on on social media, so consider my family.
Speaker 3:You stole 90,000. I'm going to just keep hammering on this point right here 90,000 dollars from an elderly woman.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you stole something from a 90-year-old woman.
Speaker 3:I can't go to school like this. Yeah, man, Consider that man.
Speaker 1:Get out of here, man. Understand that we're human too, and I know this is what the world is. We laugh at people's downfall. We laugh when people are down and out. But it's all good. I'm saying it's all right. Everybody's entitled to their opinion. Everybody's entitled to their opinion and I just want you all to know that. You know, bishop Whitehead, I'm here, god is with me, god is in control, and I just want you all to understand that my faith is not wavering. You know my faith is not wavering, and as long as my faith stays strong, I'm going to be all right. Hold on a second. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:I remember initially he was saying he wasn't going to talk.
Speaker 1:I just wanted to tap in. I'm not going to turn the comments off y'all. That's too much.
Speaker 2:They don't. He's going to start blocking.
Speaker 1:They got to say and you know, when God shows up and when vindication hits, then you know that's what it is.
Speaker 3:Yeah, man, I got to acknowledge another comment here, man. That was just, it was so good man I got to go back. All right, here we go. This is one. Is that Alice, blessed child of God? This is what her handle is. She said I'm so sorry that I missed this live. Why would anyone give up on God Because a scammer and a car man got found guilty on all charges? Yeah, that's crazy, man. Just the fact that you, you know like listen, man, come on, man, come on.
Speaker 2:Man Shout out to this lady. I think her name is Pam Esquire from the Lord into like. I watched her video on it. Pam said I don't know where she came from, but she fought through the storm, everything to get to the court. Watch him get convicted. Ah.
Speaker 3:Ah, ah, ah, ah Ah. People was up there holding her flags, everything.
Speaker 2:Please forgive her, man. Pam said she was doing the Lord's work. She said she said Satan wasn't going to stop her in that storm in Pennsylvania. Ha ha, ha, ha ha. She said she got there just in time. Oh man.
Speaker 3:Pam said she got there just in time. I was like, ah, that's funny. You know what?
Speaker 2:I would have loved to go on to it. I would have went there too, I don't know how you know, I don't know if you think about this. So we got to think about stuff like this man. I got to get to stuff like this man so you can just sit there and get a nice little front row seat and watch them get took a down.
Speaker 3:Yeah, man, god is not mocked, man I'm playing with.
Speaker 1:That's not playing.
Speaker 3:That's not playing.
Speaker 1:Um, hey, how you doing. I know a lot of you guys that really truly love God and really truly understand the ministry and the work of God that I do. I know that a lot of us are, you know, heartbroken and and and just surprised.
Speaker 1:I'm not, but like I said, don't lose faith and don't lose hope. Right, I don't want you to give up on God. You know I don't want you. I don't want you to give up. Give up on God. Y'all we pray and a divine delay is not a divine denial. Right, I want you to understand that a divine delay is not a divine denial.
Speaker 2:I don't know what that even means. Let me tell you something If you prayed and fast for that night, I wish I would, Mr Sandwich.
Speaker 3:He done sold 90,000.
Speaker 2:He's so nice yeah.
Speaker 3:Defraud and all type of business people, and you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I wish I would. Mr Sandwich and you riding around in a dapper, damn vehicle. Man, you must be out of your mind. You imagine you're matching your clothes with your cars? Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you didn't do it, you're playing around with God's word.
Speaker 3:If you didn't do what you deserve. You got exactly what you deserve, yeah.
Speaker 2:In fact, listen, listen, I'm a.
Speaker 3:I'm a go ahead with you. You better. Thank God, this is all you got. Yeah, you know what I mean. Snatch the breath out your body.
Speaker 2:Second chance man? Yeah, better hoping I find a real what you call it extreme Christians in that prison. Oh yeah, let's find some extreme Christians in that prison, man.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:A couple of them brothers. You know the. You know the fraud that they grandmothers and stuff like that.
Speaker 3:See, that's the thing is that they already know. You know what I mean. And one thing about a lot of prisoners, man they love their grandmothers and their mamas, yeah, and they don't play around with you.
Speaker 2:You know, you know, you know, even in the street, man, there's rules to certain things, man, and again, none of it's right. Still, you know, taking anything from it, but you don't hurt kids, women. You know what I mean. Yeah, and elders man you know, do it, yeah, yeah. And the elders, and you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:It's ridiculous, it don't make no sense man, All right, let's keep going man Right, and you know y'all can't, y'all can't believe everything you read and you just got to be careful because you know God still has me covered, Right, and God has my family covered. No matter what it looks like, no matter what it looks like right now, God is still in control. And I just wanted to tap in and just to encourage each of you, one of you that was praying, you know, that was praying for me and my church family leaders are tomorrow to national ministries and just everybody, everybody that's been, you know, just standing on the wall and standing in the gap for me. But that's only. I'm not.
Speaker 1:I'm not coming back on to talk about this anymore. I'm definitely not going to talk about the case. It's in the hands of my attorneys and they're going to do what they have to do. But I just wanted to come on just to encourage each and every one of you that have been praying and have been fasting Don't give up, Don't, don't, please don't give up, Don't give up on God.
Speaker 2:Hold on here. Yeah, old school gangster man, he ain't up there snitching on the stuff like these kids on TV. Man you say yo listen, listen. Man, the game is to be sold, not to be told. Man you say yo listen, I'm not going to talk about this cry boy here. Man, I still got to, I still got to fight and chance.
Speaker 3:One of these comments man, this is jacked up. But they said he got all that lip gloss on getting prison ready. This is messed up.
Speaker 2:He get ready for their life. Yo, you know what? When he showed up, when he showed up the court the other day, man, you know, I remember friends of mine, you know, because I ain't never did, no time I was too smart. Oh, we're hitting the date he showed up, the prison man. He had on like a hoodie and some some hoodie, a sweatshirt and a hoodie. Well, I thought he was going to get locked up there, because I remember old friends of mine said, you know they would do they would come to court, come to court with a sweatsuit on because they knew they could wear that in prison.
Speaker 2:They put on two, three pairs of drawers because they were just going to be sitting inside the bookings for a while. You know the tombs or something like that. So, yeah, man, I didn't know if he thought he was going to get locked up that day or how it was going to work out, because he showed up, he's a convict man, so he knew how to show up the court. I thought. I thought that's why he was showing up the court like that I said, because normally, dressed up like he, like I said, he's a Dapper Dan kind of guy man. So when he showed up on the sweatsuit, so when I said, oh, he came ready, he already know what it's, you know what it's sitting for.
Speaker 3:Yeah, man, One of the comments here also said that too.
Speaker 2:Man, Basically I'm going to pass out on four pairs of drawers and two sweatshirts. No, he's ready.
Speaker 3:But it's like you know. Like you know, this is the reason. Like you, you know young people nowadays. You know, like they saying now, that a lot of young people are like unbelievable. You know what I mean. And you look at these castings because this is what they're looking at, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:I heard someone said to a long time ago God it was in jail. I think it was on YouTube or something and he was saying that there's a lot of cats in prison and learning how to do hustle, preach, Mm hmm, you know what? I mean so they can come out and make a business out of it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And you know it's. You know, if you take a good look around the world, most of the cast that are a lot of these preachers are ex-cons man.
Speaker 3:Mm, hmm, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:And they got some little storefront church somewhere and they don't want to go to work, you know. Going back to what's the book I read from, I think, booker T Washington or one of them, up from slavery or something. This is an old hustle man.
Speaker 3:Mm, hmm.
Speaker 2:They were saying, after slavery ended, a lot of men became preachers because they didn't want to. They didn't want to work.
Speaker 3:Mm, hmm.
Speaker 2:You know, this is what they were doing back. This is an old hustle, it's old man, it's an old hustle.
Speaker 3:Somebody said this too At London Inspection 9811. I don't know how to feel about this because I don't know, man, she might get investigated too. It says she charges wife as an accomplice.
Speaker 2:That's man. Anybody that ate off his plate. It's a rico charge man. You know what?
Speaker 3:I mean, hey, let me tell you something?
Speaker 2:His wife doesn't look stupid to me.
Speaker 3:I don't know, I don't know, but I mean it's an interesting. I wonder if she could be charged. That's an interesting question.
Speaker 2:Like we said, the video says his wife. He didn't mention his wife, but normally every other video I've ever seen of him he promoting his wife and whatever case maybe this the video right now he done got locked up. The only thing he keep talking about is family, but he never says specifically you know his wife or anything like that. He give credit to the attorneys and everything like that. You know what I mean? Maybe shit. Good old fashioned New York chick man. She got away from the grind. He is.
Speaker 3:This is so shit myself with this knife, Everything could be in her name right now. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we gonna set that real quick.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the grind is real man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the grind is real, so it's like maybe I don't know. That's a very good question. I would love to ask an attorney that can you know. Can he be brought up on a recall charge on this?
Speaker 2:Maybe she might try to be the next sad to say, next past preacher or something like that. Keep the hustle in the family man. I think I seen on some picture or something like that she had some head guard like the Pope or something like that. What, yeah, something crazy I think it was they were showing the picture or something like that could be wrong. Wow, that's crazy. Yeah, it was on the head of one of his videos, one of his church sermons. You know the YouTube front of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the picture yeah.
Speaker 2:I think it was his wife did with like some sort of head guard or something like the Pope or something like that.
Speaker 3:Well, you know the AI right, one of them weirdo crowds or something like that, man Well yeah, could be wrong. Yeah, you know what I mean. I get benefited out on that one, but yeah, man, I don't know. That's a good question, though. Should we brought up more charges? Let us know what y'all think.
Speaker 1:That's how they do it on a week off. We don't know what tomorrow holds right, and he's still good. Y'all. We have to understand that there are many men in the Bible that had to go through a lot of things. Jesus went through some things, joseph went through some things, paul went through some things. Just so many men Isaiah, jeremiah, jonah, a lot of powerful men in the Bible had to go through some things. Y'all so sad. And if we say that we trust God and we trust the Bible, right, you know, we have to live it. We have to.
Speaker 2:So sad.
Speaker 3:That's one of the things you just want to look at.
Speaker 2:So sad man, so sad. I love to sit in front and say, bro, what are you doing Y'all? I mean, the jig is up, man. Come on, man, Don't pay yourself to Jesus. Man, Stop with the forces.
Speaker 3:Stop with the forces.
Speaker 2:Go ahead and do that and Nikko will stop playing.
Speaker 3:And not to mention like to make it even when you mentioned Jesus and Paul and everybody some Makes me mad, went through some things in the Bible Like what you kind of like, diminishing this whole sacrifice these men made.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. Ain't none of them in there for extortion man? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3:You ain't nowhere near what the men went through.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. This is these guys these guys is in jail for preaching the word man Talking straight and strict to the government about things they're doing wrong. You know how they're going against the scriptures and stuff like that. You don't have to hear for extortion and you know.
Speaker 3:And fraud, fraud and all kind of goofy Lying to the government and all type of stuff.
Speaker 2:And you choking, you know, beating up chicks in the what's the name? Running up on homosexuals, and I want to say homosexuals, but the preacher, what is the preacher? That?
Speaker 3:he had. Yeah, yeah God, he look a little saucy man, but I mean You're stepping the preachers in the streets man, come on, man. No, running up on the social media, man, you know what I mean To talk up, you know what.
Speaker 2:I mean, I thought the guy was a preacher. I could be wrong.
Speaker 3:I thought he was too man. So-called preacher So-called yes God, please forgive me.
Speaker 2:God, please forgive me, So-called. Yeah, we even talk, we even calling these preachers man. You know I'm just using, you know their terminology, but uh, yeah, I think he ran up on the dude in the street or something.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the woman that was the co-host, he was like insulting her and yeah, come on, man, you know what I mean. All type of stuff like that man. So I mean it's Disgusting, disgusting, man, disgusting. Let me just go into a little bit more man.
Speaker 1:I have to live it and you know there is some. You know I'm looking at the comments and there's some really Um, there's some really mean people out here LAUGHTER.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:You just robbed an old lady man. You talking about everybody's a mean person.
Speaker 3:Some really mean people out here Bad comments. You don't like the comments man. You just defrauded several people and robbed an elderly woman at $90,000.
Speaker 2:According to the court, According to the court?
Speaker 3:Yeah, according to the court. But, there's some mean people that's like the bully crying because somebody punched them back. You know what I mean. Like are you serious?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then another thing too, man, reason why he's probably not telling the truth man you got to go to jail. Man you got to go to jail man.
Speaker 3:Oh, he's going to prison, sir. Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's just like a skid man, but I'm saying that you got to go to prison man.
Speaker 2:So I guess he want to at least say that to them. Prisoners, when you get in there, like no, I didn't, I didn't say that. You know what I mean. I didn't rob that old lady. You know they going against me, man. You know some stupid garbage like that man.
Speaker 3:You ever see when they, you know, just come in and say how many people in prison, how many people in the sentence. Just about everybody raised their hand, even though they know they did it.
Speaker 1:This is one of those cats man.
Speaker 2:You did something wrong. You did something man. Listen, even if you didn't do this, you deserved it all man you seen them talking bad about God and disrespecting the church and doing all kinds of stupid stuff within the church man.
Speaker 3:The whole thing was at disrespect. What do you think you was going to ride high with this?
Speaker 2:You know, run around and call yourself the bling bling preacher. I seen a sister on a as I'm trying to research this thing she was FaceTime, you know and she had another call up and say hey, I'm a pastor, I, my pastor, where I'm from, is fly just like you or some crazy garbage.
Speaker 3:And he was eating out of, wasn't he?
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, he took it on. I was like come on, man, what are y'all doing, man? What are y'all doing man? Could you imagine opening the Bible and hearing about Jesus? You know, gucci, or something you know?
Speaker 3:what I mean. Yeah, it doesn't make sense, Like none of it was about that. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Well, though, we know Solomon was a king and all this other stuff like that, man. Come on, man, you ain't Solomon, man, you're not these people, man, let's start referring yourself to these people, man. I mean it's ridiculous man.
Speaker 3:You know, solomon's thing was God-given man. He didn't defraud anybody to get it. You know what I mean and this is what you're saying, and it's sad because forget him. I'm pretty much done with this thing.
Speaker 2:Truth be told at the end of Solomon's life it was different, but you know, but from the beginning you know in the beginning. Yeah, Everything he was given was God's given.
Speaker 3:It was God's given.
Speaker 2:yeah, you can't compare yourself to these people, man and the scriptures man, but we just got to speak to the people.
Speaker 3:Now he gonna get what he get, man, but it's just like this is just one of many, you know me, and it's running around the door what he doing. The only problem with him is he's been doing this for years and he just ended up getting caught.
Speaker 2:You know me one thing that he did say that was good man, it's like, and I would say this he said kept saying don't give up hope and give up faith. Now, the reason why I say what he said is important, because it's probably that somebody that's out of him was sincere.
Speaker 3:I was thinking the same thing.
Speaker 2:You know, I mean it was sincere about, you know, going to church and you know Understanding the scriptures and stuff like that man. What they probably did was they probably, you know, you could probably look at this person and be like man, like I believe them, and then you know it broke my heart, you know I mean so point, don't believe in that man.
Speaker 3:I said believe in God and let them scriptures break your heart. You know, man, yeah, this is nothing. He'll be alright.
Speaker 2:So when he's, when he's let and go rogue, you know man, hopefully you had learned enough in them scriptures to say, oh no, he, he outside of the margin right now. Yeah, you know man. Yeah, yeah yeah, man, yeah, so it's like he's not.
Speaker 3:He's not the only one that's out there. There's a whole List of them and again some of them is right here on BET preaching and all that stuff like that. It's just, you know, he got sloppy with his thing, got caught.
Speaker 2:I mean I love the preaching that we you know that we get in our own church and I love our pastors and ministers and Love the work that they preach. But like I want to go, like I want to go past to see all the time I fall out of the way, don't follow me. I mean you see me slipping and coming in doing some crazy. No, get out the way, man. And based on the teaching that he gave us man, you got them guidelines. We said oh man, man, come in church next week weighing pumps. You know, I mean the lipstick, this is it.
Speaker 3:Speaking of which, oh my goodness, did you see that video about the? The guy was preaching with the blouse on and whatnot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the training joint right.
Speaker 3:I don't think he was a training. He was definitely very saucy, but you know what I mean. But it was like he had on like a Blouse or something. It was real crazy and people was so called getting in the spirit when he was talking. I'm like this is crazy.
Speaker 2:I seen something. It was supposedly a train preaching or something like that. It might be the same thing, I don't know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, it was like this stuff is just coming to my head as we talking about this, but it's like this is real spirit and not yeah, man, I'm like I'm watching these people. I supposed to be catching the spirit and all I'm like from from him, stand up and a blouse.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, man, it's people's horrible man it's sad man. These people still. They rob old ladies, they rob women. They sleep with you know, manipulate women in the sleep with them all kinds of sick women and men these days, my less, my less children, you know. I mean all kinds of sick garbage man. And then I don't understand how do people just sit up on there?
Speaker 3:I mean you know what man, every you know. Hopefully, like you said earlier, like people, how they appointed time man, maybe they you know, just there for a season, hopefully.
Speaker 2:I heard a wise man said man, I know a hustle when I see one. Yeah we know hustle. We, we from the, we from the neighborhood man, we know a hustle when we see one, I mean we know how it is to get ripped off man and that's a. I mean I only in this like we belong on talking my dude. I think it likes two or three times man, but maybe a year ago, so maybe yeah, yeah, buddy First time out about him.
Speaker 2:It's like how do you not know that this is wrong? I Haven't seen a young brother who his grandmother was the one that got defrauded and I think he was going to the church and I guess he was so called in on it why not one in on it? But he knew what was going on. He was like they believed in this guy, like what.
Speaker 3:What man let's see. The question, though, then becomes like did you believe in him or did you believe in what he had?
Speaker 2:Yeah, obviously believed in him and what he had, man, you know, I mean, because it was trying to get probably I don't know gave him the money to get something for nothing. I don't know. I don't know what they was getting into. But you know what? I wouldn't get that crook nothing, a dollar.
Speaker 3:You know dollars. Couldn't get a dollar get a penny out of me.
Speaker 2:I mean and I would probably be a, you know, aggressive about that, yeah, ask me for a dollar. I feel offended. Man, we'll ask me for some money in that horrible setting that you and it was red, all red soup song, all red preach the preaching apparel.
Speaker 3:Big diamonds did the cross that he had on his neck, Looking like the black pope.
Speaker 2:That thing was huge man, that's how we used to rock them back in the days. That's how you did it in the hood. It would have called a Jesus peace and all other stuff like that and the big rings on all that that.
Speaker 3:But you know, like you said, it was interesting what I'm saying. You know, like I Guess what, don't give up the hope and faith and all it's. It's truth out there. I would say, if you don't give up on it because it's truth out there, man.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's definitely true.
Speaker 3:It's true fire.
Speaker 2:Don't give up when I say this, don't give up hoping. Give up hoping faith on him on him, yeah, but I'm his church and everything that he's involved in. But don't give on. Give up hope, looking for the power.
Speaker 3:Yeah, cuz he's saying like don't, don't lose faith in God, not because you got convicted, you know, I mean because you got convicted, that don't mean that's the end, all be all, and that's Kind of what he's saying, like you saying, but it is true, thought that y'all would that be a set? We won't go ahead and sign off, man, you know me, because I think we got all we're gonna get out of.
Speaker 2:Make sure you don't compare that nut to anybody out of the vibe.
Speaker 3:No, no, not at all, not at all. Don't make this man no model. He did what he did and God would deserve.
Speaker 2:And you know what I feel he's. You know he's going against the hustlers. Creed man, shut up, do that. Nickel man, go ahead and do that. Five years man, stand on your shield Like a copy, please well to me.
Speaker 3:I'll be honest with you, my first, when I first heard it. It's not like you about to run.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
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Speaker 2:Going to do that. Yeah people go to jail every day, be I.
Speaker 3:Hope they get more of them. Peace.