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Join us as we tackle the complexities of police interactions, starting with the recent detention of Tyreek Hill by the Miami-Dade Police Department. We unpack personal stories and the tightrope black individuals walk between asserting their rights and ensuring their safety. We have to talk about the lunacy of Donald Trump's claims during his recent debate with Kamala Harris. And with the recent passing of film and stage legend James Earl Jones, what is your favorite non-Star Wars movie he has starred in?
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Speaker 2:Give me a moment with your friend. I've never been up to my thoughts before. Welcome to the Only One Mic Podcast Carl Jerrod, Brooklyn, Trey. J-rob is back in the building. How you doing, fellas? What up? Alright, y'all. So what we got on the table is the Tariq Hill arrest video, as well as that debate last night which was crazy, Hilarious, Hilarious man. Like we're going to get into it, but, Jay, how you doing, man?
Speaker 1:I can't complain. You know, life is life, but I love living it.
Speaker 2:I hear you, brother. I'm happy to have you back, man, Happy to have you back here, man. So y'all listen, guys. As we know, you know Tariq Hill was detained, if you want to call it that, by was it Miami Dade Police Department? I believe he got pulled over. Was it for speeding? They just had a traffic violation. So we don't know if he ran a light, a tent, whatever it was.
Speaker 1:In the initial recording. When I first heard it I thought I heard one of the cops say you hit somebody or something, but that went away very quickly, so I don't know. You know what it was? It might have just been DWB yeah, driving while black.
Speaker 2:You know, after this incident here kind of sparked a big debate, some people say that he went overboard.
Speaker 3:Of course we know the cops went way overboard.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean, and it goes back to that whole age old discussion that we have is like yo, do you comply or do you just be defiant? You know what I mean. And when you defiant, then I guess the result is what it is. But you know people saying, like, well, with your rights and all you don't really have to comply. It's like a whole big debate that's going on right now about this. So, uh, we all saw the footage. We're going to look at it again, we're going to get your your take on it, but you know what is your thoughts on the whole comply or, you know, just stand up for your rights. Jay, I'm gonna start with you.
Speaker 1:You ain't been Go ahead. I'm going to give you a little example, right? So this morning I'm driving to work and the state boys pull up on the side of me, right? I look over, I ain't doing nothing, I'm out of my business. I'm actually going to an interview. I'm feeling great. Then I noticed two cars. Behind is the county boys. I get on Route 1. They follow me from Route 1 till I almost was in North Wilmington.
Speaker 2:And this is Delaware folks he's speaking about.
Speaker 1:It's like, as a black man, that's a big thing. You know what I'm saying. Like police have been harassing us almost since we've been old enough to talk. You know what I mean. It's almost become normal, but it's not normal and I don't want anybody that's hearing the sound of my voice to think it's normal. We shouldn't have to live like that and we shouldn't have to live in fear, and the police shouldn't think that they should be able to intimidate us, whether we're doing well for ourselves or just minding our own business.
Speaker 2:I hear you on that one, and I mean everybody here on this show has run-ins with the police. You know what I mean, so we understand. But again it goes back to that age old question. I get what you're saying and we know the situation. So, knowing that we know the situation, should we just follow protocol so things shouldn't happen like this. You know what I mean. What's your take on it?
Speaker 4:I think it's like you said. It's a fine line, man, because again, you don't want to be docile and if you know you're being disrespected and violated and just be all happy and cheerfully going into it. But on the same token, it's like you're in.
Speaker 4:America man. You know what I mean and thank God he's Tariq Hill. You know what I mean and thank God he's Tariq Hill. You know what I mean because if he had pulled out in the pork and bean projects in Florida it might have been a total different outcome nah, because the cops wouldn't have did nothing to him in them projects, they'd have to take him up out of there well, however you put it, the point I'm making is that the situation that he had I mean, we're going to watch the videotape and everything like that it's just like I don't know, man, Like you want to fight the system, but it's like at what cost?
Speaker 4:Like I'll give you an example we got children, right, and I love my son. I mean again, if that was my son, you know, I'm looking at it because it's to re-kill. But if it was my son, I'm like, yo boy, you better leave them cops alone, man, because I don't want to see him in a funeral home. Right, you know what I mean. So it's a different, it's a tight game.
Speaker 1:That you're playing with that. I understand everything that you're saying and, yes, we don't want our loved ones to be murdered by the police. However, we should not have to live in fear of police, who are supposed to serve and protect. They're not serving or protecting anything. They're harassing and murdering.
Speaker 4:I totally agree with you, man, 100%. I'm not disagreeing with you. I just say that at what cost do we play that game? You know what I mean? I mean from the videotape I watched. I don't know what happened prior to what I watched. What I watched is a videotape with him showing him with a police officer coming up on him in a car and he's kind of like sitting there with the windows rolled up, you know, and then the police officer tap on the window and when he taps on the window he rolls the window down slightly, just a little bit, and he was like yo don't tap on my window.
Speaker 2:I'll tell you what don't give too much away. Let's just go ahead and get into the video. Man, you can give your play by play on that one, just for the accuracy. So I want to say something.
Speaker 4:But again, I'm only going off of what I saw. Yeah, yeah, yeah it could have been a whole lot of other stuff that came through prior to that whole situation.
Speaker 2:And because of it being an audio, guys, of course, you can always pull up this body cam footage and take a look at it yourself. Like I always say, leave it in the comments for something that we missed or you know your thoughts and opinions on it. But to speak to your point, jay, you have said something important. Like the cops are supposed to serve and protect us supposed to be an operative word, but that's not always the case. So I can see what you're saying, but we also, too, got to act accordingly on. You know what I mean, knowing what we know.
Speaker 1:But you know what, I hear what you're saying and we're we have been Our our people are so great that we overcome whatever obstacle it is, and I get that. But this right here they need to do a revamping from the inside, like we, we should not live in fear of the police. It's not right.
Speaker 4:But let me ask you a question. This is probably going off the top, it's probably one of the more unicorn questions, or you know. Just kind of crazy. My question is is like what do we do outside of playing this chess game with them on the street in order to make things change?
Speaker 2:But I want you, I want you to hold that question to after we take a look at it, because it's actually a very good question.
Speaker 5:So I want to play this first, and then you know we'll get into that discussion.
Speaker 4:So again, this is the uh miami-dade police released body cam footage of tariq hill being detained. Hold on, stop. According to the video that I watched before, it looked like or I don't know how they suspended it or whatever it looked like the police officer was standing in front of the car for a long period of time. You know what I mean. So this looked totally different, you know. It looks like he did roll the window down as soon as he rolled it. Okay.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean in order for him to say don't tap on the window, so he had to actually do it, just stopping it in that particular spot right here. Even the response. Do you think it was wrong For him to tell the cop don't tap on my window like that? No, it's not wrong.
Speaker 1:It's not wrong as a people. They're not superior to us. We don't have to cow and tuck our tails when we see them. They put their pants on, just like me and you?
Speaker 4:I hear everything that you're saying. I don't disagree, but that's the question that I was asking before, because you're kind of holding court in the street dream, yeah, but that's.
Speaker 1:Let's be honest, the problem is, the problem is niggas like this they get these jobs. It's punks. They didn't, they didn't, they didn't have been able to secure a job that allows them to work out and they think they tough now because they got a badge and a gun and they run around with that attitude. Look at, look at the demeanor that he had. He's the professional. He's the professional he could have.
Speaker 4:He, he aggravated the situation. Initially, from what I've seen and I'm looking at a different thing he actually really wasn't that bad. The one that was the bad one is, I believe, it's the one that comes up after him, and I think that's when the situation got out of this, got out of, got out of control, because I think, like you said, their job is to de-escalate. You know what I mean. So they were supposed to de-escalate the situation, but they seemed like they escalated it and I think that was the biggest problem. And it was extremely aggressive. You know what I mean beyond aggressive. They was even aggressive with the other football players that you know were coming up with the situation.
Speaker 2:All of us has been pulled over by the police, right? And if you have your windows up or whatever and they tap on the glass, has anybody ever said yo don't tap on my glass like that?
Speaker 1:I ain't been driving a $500,000 vehicle. I don't care what car you drive.
Speaker 2:Do you think would you tell the cop straight up and down yo don't knock on my window like that.
Speaker 4:Not in North Philly. You ain't doing nothing, yeah.
Speaker 2:We had to pause for a second and think about that. I got trouble from police in Philly. Now I ain't going to act like I would do that, but Was he wrong for setting off the conversation this way, as opposed to? Why did you stop him? See, why did you stop me off?
Speaker 4:with it. I understand what J-Rob is saying in regards to, let me say, this man. I wouldn't do it, but this is what I'm saying about this weird world we live in. I see white people do this all the time.
Speaker 1:They do it all the time they would have cracked the window. I wouldn't suggest you do it and they license out the crack and told them to go about their business.
Speaker 4:I've seen white women spitting off officers' face, slapping them. You know what I mean. I've seen white men get out. I've seen a white man get out and physically fight an officer.
Speaker 2:Understandable. Yeah, and look, man again, I watch a lot, but I understand both sides, Right. I watch a lot of these body cam videos, y'all you know what I mean. And I watch a lot of these body cam videos, y'all you know what I mean and I understand the real disparity in the whole thing. That's why I'm like do we conduct this situation us being black men especially in a different manner, knowing that we know what we know? This is America.
Speaker 1:But how many times has a person actually complied? Got drugged out of the car?
Speaker 5:and murdered.
Speaker 1:They have, and then they say we found a gun, but do you think if the exchange was different, they have they have but.
Speaker 2:But do you think if the exchange was different?
Speaker 1:it's the respect factor. You're trying to intimidate me banging on my window and again I didn't do anything. So why are you coming over here trying to intimidate me?
Speaker 2:what was any other way to get his attention aside from saying tap, tap, tap, open up the window. Tap, tap, tap is different from boom, boom, boom. But we don't know that because we didn't see it in the video. He tapped on the glass he banged on his window.
Speaker 4:He tapped on it, but he was like yo don't tap. That's his matter of fact. I want to say he says something like along the line don't tap on my glass or don't knock on my glass let's go ahead, back to it.
Speaker 2:Let's go back to it. Let's go back to it. Why don't you have your seatbelt on? Don't knock on my window. Why don't you have your seatbelt on? He said don't knock on my window like that.
Speaker 4:Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1:See, this is my thing.
Speaker 4:In that blacked out car. He asked him why he didn't have his seatbelt on.
Speaker 1:But you know what that is. We have no reason to stop you, to stop you.
Speaker 2:But now that I see something I can now have a reason.
Speaker 4:Man, that's wild, that's crazy.
Speaker 2:I think having all of those motorcycle cops back there was a bit excessive too. Unless he was whiling on that highway, that's a bit excessive to have all of that.
Speaker 1:But that was never said. If that was the case when they came up, why you going so fast? They waited to erode the window down to give him a sight infraction. That means I did nothing for you to be stopping me.
Speaker 2:That's true. I've been pulled over and I take the seatbelt off to get whatever I need to get, and then they'll say, hey, why you ain't got your seatbelt on.
Speaker 4:First play this front.
Speaker 2:Let's listen to some more. All right, let's listen to some more.
Speaker 5:Yeah, here we go.
Speaker 1:Keep the window down.
Speaker 4:That's what. Stop it, stop it. Okay, see, that's where I caught it at and that's how the video portrayed it before. So what happens is I guess Tariq must have gave him his information and then he says I think he said he kind of said, do what you got to do, or write the ticket, or something like that, and then he rolled the window up.
Speaker 2:Now, I know, I know, I know what you're about to say.
Speaker 1:How is he wilding?
Speaker 2:You can't roll that window back up. Why can't you? Because you got to stop. That's the whole point. Keep the window down, turn the engine off.
Speaker 1:I am not being arrested. I am not being arrested. I gave you my information. Go, run the information, give me my ticket and let me go about my business. Everything else is uncalled for.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but you can't roll that window.
Speaker 2:Okay, listen, listen, I'm going to throw this out there. I'm going to throw this out there again. There's no law. He's not breaking the law. I'm going to throw this out there again. We've all been stopped by the police before. We're not going to roll no window up on you. You're wrong. Just hear me out, because I'm going to give you a chance to answer this. I understand what. Have you ever rolled a window up after they rolled it down?
Speaker 4:I ain't rolling no window on no cop All right, jay answer his.
Speaker 1:I was fishbowled, but I definitely rolled mine up.
Speaker 2:After you done, stopped the car and everything.
Speaker 1:Especially this wintertime.
Speaker 4:There's one thing, because I've done it too whereas the cop took my information and he on his way on the back, he took the information out of Duhan, and the cop is still kind of like conversing with him. He just rolled the window up like bro, you're dancing that's what I'm talking about, yeah no, he's, he's not.
Speaker 1:He's not doing anything illegal. Go write the ticket. If I did something wrong, go write the ticket. We don't, I don't, I don't need a lecture in the words of camera. I'll take a lecture or I'll take a ticket. I'm not taking both.
Speaker 4:That's from the same man that hid from a dude while his man was getting worked over in the way he he ain't that same dude. That same dude is gonna take a lecture and he gonna take a ticket.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it sounds good, but yo, let's get back to this, y'all, let's get back to this hey.
Speaker 5:Keep your window down.
Speaker 3:Keep your window down. I'm going to get you out of the car. As a matter of fact, get out of the car, give me that Get out of the car.
Speaker 4:Give me that Get out of the car.
Speaker 5:Get out of the car.
Speaker 3:Get out of the car. Right now, we're not playing this game. Get out, get out, get out, get out, get out, get out, get out. What part of the problem is you understand? Hey Drew, hey Drew, I'm getting arrested, drew. I'm getting arrested. I'm getting arrested, drew 1-800-BETTER-CALL-DREW.
Speaker 2:I'm getting arrested 1-800-BETTER-CALL-DREW.
Speaker 4:See, that's the bull crap, Like all of what they're doing is wrong.
Speaker 2:That is complete, that is totally wrong. That's crazy.
Speaker 4:But you know, if you're going to be a revolutionary, let's follow this thing all the way out, don't start that. Hey call Drew, no Drew.
Speaker 1:No, no, no. Let me tell you what sounded bad about that I know you know this.
Speaker 4:What sounded bad? Tell him I call a white man. You know I'm calling a white man. You yelling, let's call him. Call Drew.
Speaker 2:Call.
Speaker 1:Drew, call Drew.
Speaker 4:I never call drew, call drew. Come on, man, you're a multi-millionaire. You begging them to call a white man? And I don't get me wrong. You know good, I ain't got a racist bone in my body. This looks bad, man. Then they pull you out. You want to, you know? I mean, you was a gangster a second ago. Follow it all the way out.
Speaker 1:How is he a gangster? Because he, because he's not. He's not allowing them to intimidate him and infringe upon his rights yeah, what'd he say?
Speaker 4:uh, he said write a ticket and let me go on my way. Yeah, roll up the window. Even if we, you, you say that he's doing nothing wrong, you have to agree that it is an angry response. Whether or not you say it's wrong or not, I would be. He's not being a nice guy.
Speaker 1:Well, let me, let me. Let me say this, though I would be angry too, because again he's being stopped for no reason we don't know the reason? We kind of do know it, because the initial thing that happened when he rolled the window down is oh, you ain't got your seat belt on, not? Oh, you know how fast you was going. You were speeding, you met, you made a left turn. You didn't signal none of that that's true.
Speaker 4:I mean, I was, I was, I was thinking, I, you know, maybe that might be something else into it, but that's the. I didn't hear that yet. I didn't hear that yet. All I heard him talk about is the seat, though. So you're right so far. But again, man, oh man like you want to have a good day, you want to have a bad day. Man like I to have a bad day, man.
Speaker 1:Like I was saying before, we have mastered the art of adapting to whatever the situation is.
Speaker 4:But that don't make it right. It doesn't, man? But on the same token, that's the question I was asking before. Where does this get handled at? Because it doesn't get handled here, you're not going to get the right outcome right here.
Speaker 2:I'm going to court. If you're going to fight the ticket, either fight it, pay it, whatever you're going to do, but I'm not going through all of this.
Speaker 4:I'll tell you what they're going to do right now. Maybe they sit these cops down. I don't even think they're going to happen. Is it's going to go back to the age-old thing? He rolled his window up. We don't know what he got in his car. That's what they're going to say. Why did you stop?
Speaker 2:him. That's another issue. Let's get back to tape. We'll see what it's like. All right, let's see what's good.
Speaker 3:When we tell you to do something, you do it. You understand. You understand not what you want, but what I'm getting out bro. Too late, Too late, All right bro.
Speaker 4:Take me to jail, bro. Do what you got to do, bro, we are, we will Good. Good bro, it is good hey.
Speaker 3:Drew, hey, don't worry about it. I hung up the phone. You stop crying, bro, y'all.
Speaker 1:Stop moving.
Speaker 4:Good Bro, you beating on my Hold on a second, so he's going to keep it a buck. He wasn't beating on the window, man. He didn't like how he was tapping on it and that's the whole thing, but he wasn't beating on it. You know what I mean. I don't like what the cops is doing. I don't like their response and all the other stuff like that. They are totally overaggressive. And let's say this too I'm going to get J-Rob Baton on this one. That's Tariq Hill in Miami, man. I guess it was in Miami, right? Miami Dade, right?
Speaker 2:Yep On his way to the stadium.
Speaker 4:That's Tariq Hill in Miami. That's the most important person in sports in Miami. You know what I mean. Like I'm not saying that they got to know who he is or whatever the case may be, but that wouldn't happen to Tom Brady or any other.
Speaker 1:It never would have happened to Peyton Manning. No, no, it never would have happened to Peyton Manning. One thing that these cops did say is oh, you're going to listen to us and you're going to do what we say. It's not going to be your way. What that shows me again is jealousy and entitlement.
Speaker 2:I agree, I agree, I totally agree with you. I agree with that, yeah.
Speaker 4:I agree, I know me, man. Let me tell you something right now when I get pulled over, I ain't on no sucker stuff, I want to go home, man.
Speaker 4:You know what I mean. I don't feel like I know what you're saying, man. It's sad that we have to go through these different routes in order to get home safely, in whatever the case may be. But maybe I'm just old and I ain't got the energy for it. Man, Like I'm not Ten and two my hands on the steering wheel. All right, here's the joy I'm trying to go home.
Speaker 1:It's a different mindset than a mindset of a young man. That's a millionaire, right, I get you.
Speaker 4:It's a different mindset, but that's what I'm saying. That's why you know this is a question I keep asking. I don't think nobody jumped on it yet. Man, where do you handle this problem? Because this problem can't get handled right here. This is going to go bad for any Black person that tries to handle this problem right here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if I mean we didn't see brothers and sisters die on camera anyway, but I would think that this didn't go all the way left because all the people that was around being broad daylight, Somewhere in the course of that arrest and all the foolishness that they were doing, somebody said that dude, right there is very expensive.
Speaker 4:Yep y'all roughing up the wrong negro yeah, I mean and that's. That's what happened in that con, that's what happened in that altercation you know, I mean, that's that's.
Speaker 1:That's the problem with us. Like it's like we, we, we think that, uh, I'm amassing that that type of uh type of wealth or money changes things Right In their eyes. You're still a nigga.
Speaker 2:Yep, this is America.
Speaker 1:This is America. This is America.
Speaker 4:You're a black man in America.
Speaker 2:Never forget that when you walk out the door.
Speaker 4:This goes back to. You know like? I'll give an example we all want to go to a rally, we want to hold our hands up and we want to protest and all the other stuff like that. Man, well, and this is us. This is what you want to do. You want to fight, fight the system. But when it comes to a time where you got to put your kids out here on the line and you know all that type of stuff, when you send your kid, you're going to tell him, like yo, do the right thing to get home.
Speaker 4:I don't want my son's life to be on a protest.
Speaker 4:I don't want his life to end on a protest. I don't want him to end in a rally or something like that, and although I know we have to do these things and we have to fight against the system or whatever like that, I don't think nothing could bring me peace if he loses his life in something like that. You know what I mean. So again you got these situations like this man, like I think the conversation we was going to get into was Steve and A- yeah, but we want to finish this first man, because we didn't even cut through the rest of the video.
Speaker 2:All right, yeah, all right, and then we get into Steve and A comments.
Speaker 1:Hey, don't park there, don't park there hey.
Speaker 3:Hold on, man, hold on, hold on. I just had surgery on my knee. I just had surgery on my knee bro. I just had surgery on my knee bro. I just had surgery on your ears. When we go there, what's up bro? Chill bro, chill bro, chill bro, chill bro, chill bro, chill bro, chill bro, chill bro, chill bro, chill bro, chill bro, chill bro, chill bro, chill bro, chill bro, chill bro, chill bro, chill bro, chill bro, chill.
Speaker 4:What was? That I thought he said you're going to have surgery on your ears or something like that. Didn't he say something like?
Speaker 2:that. Oh, let's see. Let's see, we're going to take it back and we're going to see. You said you should have surgery on your ears when we tell you to put your window down.
Speaker 3:Call Drew Call Drew Call Drew. Hey call Drew Call Drew. Bro Call Drew. Call Drew. Call Drew. Hey call Drew Call Drew. Bro Call Drew Call Drew. Hey call Drew bro.
Speaker 4:Hey what? Hey call Drew. Bro, say call Drew. Hey, hey, hold on, man. This is obviously a man who's never been detained before. When you've been detained, man, you you know, when it gets to that point, go ahead and sit down. Man, you're going where they tell you to go and the last thing I'm gonna do is be yelling and screaming.
Speaker 1:Go get the white man obviously these niggas is on their way to the game they on their way to the game. Yeah, yeah, yeah you know what.
Speaker 2:I'm glad you mentioned it. I'm glad you mentioned it okay, because y'all might know where I'm about to go with this. There was a golfer over the summer that hit a cop. Hit a cop I forgot the gentleman's name, but he hit a cop. The dude was then went to go play the rest of the game and had a press conference after the game After hitting a cop. That's why we live, man. This is America.
Speaker 4:This is America. This is America. That's. The whole point is that I think at some point, Black people have to stop waiting till these situations happen and then coming, it has to be like something done before this. You know what I mean, and I hate to be one of the people like we got to go sit down with City Hall or whatever. There's something needs to be done before this and put provisions in place before this. I mean, I guess we do have some sort of provisions in place, but it never seemed like they actually work. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Listen, I will say this man and you know, honestly, if he had a traffic violation, he had a traffic violation, it was what it was. The cops' response to it was very aggressive and very excessive. You know I mean very way too much being done in this particular case.
Speaker 4:I think at one time in the video, I think when they was telling him to get out the car, I think he said OK, or something like that, but then I guess he cracked the door and the door came up and then they just snatched him out the car. I guess he was on the phone with Drew Rosenhaus.
Speaker 1:Because you have an officer who thinks he's tough and wants to be a vigilante and wants to try to get his name off of abusing black men that have money. You know what I'm saying? It's ridiculous.
Speaker 2:And you would think what.
Speaker 1:If these officers was black and that was Tom Brady they all would be fired.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, immediately, immediately. And, to be honest with you, I'm listening to their dialect. It sounds Latin, so I'm like it sounds like some brown cats man. So I was like, why would you even go this far? You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Because it's different. Down there them light-skinned brown cats. They don't believe that they brown cats.
Speaker 4:And then a lot of times with the brothers man, the brothers, the Mexicans, anybody when they put that uniform on you know it's very rare that you get one that's just like alright, he's just a regular person, like he's trying to do the right thing or whatever like that, you know, and it just it was an extra overaggressive man, just for something. That was very simple.
Speaker 2:Let's finish this off. And then we're getting Steve and a comments, and then we want to roll into the next topic. All right, so let's just finish the rest of this off and then y'all got y'all guys, give me your final take on this. Call Drew, call Drew, call, drew, call Drew.
Speaker 4:All right, Daddy, I'm not doing this, bro, hey, listen, listen, hey listen.
Speaker 3:Hey man, they got Tyreek the cops over there beating on him. They over there beating on Tyreek man.
Speaker 1:Listen, big man don't park there. Man Just get in the car. Hey, drew, you got to come. Man Just get in the car Right on the side of the aisle. Hey, get in the car.
Speaker 5:You're parked at the middle of the side. I'm in the car.
Speaker 4:What in the world does Drew Rosenhaus bring to the table that will stop the Miami-Dade County? You know what?
Speaker 1:I mean he connected, he got the complexion for the connection, he knows somebody.
Speaker 4:Well, they know a bunch of white folk that's in that stadium that can stop this. I mean, why is Drew? I don't know man. Listen, man, drew Rosenhaus is an agent, that's all he is. I mean I know he gets paid to get things done. I mean he can bail cats out and do the PR stuff in a public relations stuff. Why? Why is everybody calling Drew? Most of these cats man are multi-millionaires.
Speaker 1:Hey Drew, probably the man in.
Speaker 2:Miami, probably, yeah, he probably the man down there, bro. It could be. It could be. Who's the driver this?
Speaker 3:is my car. You gotta move right now. A ticket I'm not driving. Who's the driver? This is my car, all right, move. You gotta move right now. Let me have your license.
Speaker 7:You're getting a ticket too. I'm coming, let me have your license.
Speaker 3:You're getting a ticket. Let me have your license. I'm leaving, I'm not playing. Let me have your license.
Speaker 1:I'm leaving Yo what's going on Let me have your license. Your license right now. Hey, your license right now, or I'm going to lock you up. Your license right now. Your license right now.
Speaker 2:This is where I was confused at.
Speaker 1:This is disgusting man.
Speaker 2:Why, if one officer is telling you it's okay to leave, he's going to say to this guy basically, I don't care what he said, I want the license or I'm locking you up Right there. That shows you, right there, no uniformity in that particular squad. Right there at all.
Speaker 1:Not to mention what are you doing? You're not protecting the county. They're not committing a crime, You're bothering them.
Speaker 2:You're not even assisting to try to get this thing rectified. If you look at this footage. If you look at this footage. If you look at this footage. He said that he's parked in the middle of the street, in which he's not. It doesn't seem like he is. You can be pulled over for any reason and just put your hazards on and people go around you, but to ask him for his license and then threaten him with arrest, even if he asks him for his license and he's not even in the car you know what I mean.
Speaker 4:Because he's simply observing the whole situation. It's his teammate did Like family. It's your job to observe it and make sure they do it right or they don't mistreat him or whatever the case may be yeah, that's your right.
Speaker 2:You can pull out that phone and start taping, that's your right.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's your right, you can pull out that phone and start taping. That's your right. Yeah, they went too far. I believe these guys don't deserve to be on the force man.
Speaker 2:Not at all, but let's finish this off.
Speaker 3:You're dealing with me now your license. Right now, we're not playing this game here, man Alright, go get your license.
Speaker 1:Close that door.
Speaker 4:Even on live. What's that for, yeah?
Speaker 1:Hold on, real quick, real quick. I got something to say I do too Go ahead, buddy. Real quick, real quick. I got something to say I do too Go ahead, buddy. This is another, another. I guess they don't. They're not in fear. The cops are not in fear for their life at all.
Speaker 2:I know what you're about to say Go ahead. I'm saying he's digging in the back for a bag. Nobody's panicking, he's not even looking at him.
Speaker 4:He's not even looking at him's not even looking at him. Why are you this aggressive? And, to be honest with you, the brother is so um humbled, he's beyond humble. I even I ain't that, you know, I ain't doing that all like yo like listen, I'm gonna get the like. You know. He's like, please, man, you know, yeah don't you?
Speaker 1:you know, man down down, wait a minute, wait a minute.
Speaker 4:At the beginning you was like you would have rolled the window down no, no, that's what I'm telling you, but we out here now it's going left, it's already going left.
Speaker 2:And this ain't that man. You know what I mean. The brother's not even in the car Once I'm out the car. What do you ask me for my license for?
Speaker 4:I'm not even the one for, I'm not even the one.
Speaker 2:you know that that did anything wrong, all right, so I'll put it to you like this. All right, you know, let's just say, let's just say, god forbid, this was an accident Young lady with a baby have a flat tire and he pulled over in that same spot and the cops came up. Would you ask him for, tell him to move then, yeah, it's a difference, but it's like yo like.
Speaker 4:I'm saying that. You know, if it was a bunch of white teammates and pulled over, they wouldn't have did the same thing. No at all.
Speaker 2:Again. Let's just put this out here there was a golfer who hit a cop and was allowed to go play his entire game and have a press conference afterwards with no charges filed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the golfer accelerated and drugged the cop Yep. Yeah, he drugged him, drug him Yep.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 1:Oh Drew, oh oh true.
Speaker 3:Come over here, don't fall off the step.
Speaker 4:No no, no, bro, I'm already rich. Open your legs.
Speaker 1:Just let him lean forward a little. Just go with it. Just go with it, you're right. You're right, you're right. Appreciate it.
Speaker 3:Hey, thank you.
Speaker 4:You see what happened when you got there, no, I'm not man, I'm finna go home bro.
Speaker 2:It's tough.
Speaker 4:I'm not gonna go home, you got all these cars.
Speaker 7:I tried for a second. Okay, so the picture that offered to it will be, and then we're just gonna get All right so that's pretty much the size of it, guys.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was crazy, the whole situation was crazy and again, we all went back and forth on this. I'm going to give you guys something that Stephen A Smith said. Of course, I might not agree with everything that Stephen A said. You know what I mean, but just taking consideration of what he's saying right here, all right in regards to how this whole interaction here went down.
Speaker 3:This is the part that we're missing and it has to be said. Y'all pointed out exactly what we pointed out yesterday and I love your point, dom, about how it's the responsibility of the police officer to de-escalate the situation and they agitated it more, they made it worse and there's no question about that. All of those things are true. All of us said that. But when it comes to Tyreek Hill, we also can't let him completely off the hook. Based on the statement that was made by the, by the police department in Florida. They said, quote unquote, he was cooperative, he was uncooperative. We have a responsibility on this show and any kind of platform that we have to make sure we're doing what we can to save lives, to make sure that we're doing what we can to ensure that somehow, some way, you get to live another day and fight that battle. We know how wrong they were. The police were excessive. No excuses. They should be ashamed of themselves the way they acted. They would. They just went overboard. Totally true, especially when it came to Calais Campbell as well, who did nothing and put his arms up. He was no threat whatsoever. Okay, they told him to step back. He stepped back. He let them know that was his friend. Another team, agent, new Smith, comes in there. He's by his car, he's on the phone. He's clearly not posing any threat. The police officers were definitely agitated. They were wrong. Here's the problem.
Speaker 3:We all came on the air seeing the initial footage in complete unadulterated support for Tyreek Hill. You pull over, they tell you to roll down your window. What's the first thing Shannon just talked about, the first thing they do when they pull us over. They pull me over. All my windows are down, my hands on the stairwell. That is not what Tyreek Hill did. Tyreek Hill had his window up. The officer bangs on, you know, knocks on his window. He didn't bang on his window, he knocked on his window. You hesitate to pull it down. The first thing you say is don't bang on my window like that. Don't bang on my window like that. Don't bang on my window like that. He asked you for your driver's license. You hesitated to give him your driver's license.
Speaker 3:You said in the post-game conference hey y'all, what if I wasn't Tyreek Hill? What if you weren't Tyreek Hill? What would have happened to you if somebody that wasn't Tyreek Hill kept the windows rolled up, hesitated to roll it down, didn't give you the license immediately when you asked for it and then hesitated to get out the car when they told you to get out the car. See, we got to be responsible. And the point that I'm trying to make is this In no way should the officers be excused for what they did. I totally agree with you, dom, every syllable. You too, shannon, every syllable. But I also am saying yo Tyreek, yo bro, you didn't deserve that. I'm not implying that you did, but the police officers do have the power when they pull up on you and they tell you to roll down that window and they tell you to give you your driver's license and they tell you to get out that car. That's what you gotta do.
Speaker 2:What do you think?
Speaker 1:I'm tired of Stephen A Coon and I wish somebody would take him off the air.
Speaker 4:But my answer is I don't know the legality of those things right, whether or not you have to do them or not. You know what I mean. I just know that I've never been in any place with any person of color that they didn't comply to those things. So again, I don't know. If you know, I've never checked to find out whether or not you know, is that the law that you have to do that or not? You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:The law is that you don't even have to answer them if you're not being detained. They have to have a reason to be bothering you.
Speaker 4:If there's no reason, I don't need to talk to you, but that's another thing too If the window is rolled up, how do you find out what the issue is? You know what I mean. Don't they have to roll the window down you?
Speaker 1:find out what the issue is.
Speaker 4:You know what I mean, don't they have to roll the window down?
Speaker 1:to find out what the issue is. Let's say they do right. But what the people are saying to do in those situations at least white people anyway crack your window, give them your license and your registration and your insurance. You ain't got to roll your window all the way down here. Go my stuff right here. You don't have to touch me, you don't have to talk to me. Go run that. If I'm good and I didn't commit a crime, why are you bothering me? I don't have to roll my window down because you say so. You're not God, you're not my father, you're not my authority, you're just not.
Speaker 4:The thing is, man, again it all sounds good but in reality, man, I always thought that you had to roll it down for the fact of and again I'm not saying this right I always thought you had to roll it down because again, they're looking in the car. They want to make sure that you're not being aggressive or you're not going to move, or anything like that. So I thought that they had to be able to see in the vehicle when they pull you over. I know that they can't just go inside and search your vehicle without you know your permission. You know what I mean, but I always thought that you had to roll your window down. You had to be like completely transparent. Here's my license, here's my registration. What did I do, officer? That's what I always thought that you had to do.
Speaker 4:I've never seen nobody I'm talking about in the hood. I'm not talking about these videos or whatever like that. I've seen the worst of the worst criminals in cars with myself and others. Cop told them roll down the window. They roll down the window. They get a license and registration. Cops said get out the car. They got out the car.
Speaker 2:Because they know. You know what I mean, they know what it is yeah, man.
Speaker 4:I understand that. Yeah, I have never in all my years of riding with African American people, even white people a few white people I rode with too I ain't never seen no white man. I ain't never seen a black man roll up a window on a cop ever in my life.
Speaker 2:That's the point I was getting at. But again, this is America. This is America. I've seen several white folks do crazy stuff like this, but with the cops, yeah.
Speaker 1:She the one that told me you ain't got to roll your window down, just crack it and give them your license and registration. Let them run it.
Speaker 4:Hey, that goes back to this conversation I've been talking about. I tell you, I think I talked about this before when somebody broke into my house a police officer in my house. One time I just purchased a gun just moving into Delaware years ago and I had this gun so I had to ask him a question. I had this gun, so I had to ask him a question. I said hey, listen, I heard you can ride around with this gun on the passenger seat of your car. This is a white cop, said to me. He said technically, by law, all you got to do is separate the ammo and the gun. He said, but I wouldn't do this if I were you. I didn't think he was being bad, but he I think he was telling me the truth like yo, you playing russian roulette, right, you know? I mean, if they pull up and they got this, you got that gun in your pack, you know pass yeah gun bang bang bang right.
Speaker 2:Well, that's the whole point. You know, to wrap this particular topic up, there's two americas. There's an america where you can do that.
Speaker 5:There's an america where you can't.
Speaker 2:Not to say that he deserved any of that, but if you listen to that video something Tariq Hill said- I'm rich Because they was talking about suing him.
Speaker 1:I believe he was talking about suing him because he was like I'm rich already.
Speaker 2:I don't have to go through this.
Speaker 1:I'm rich, oh yeah.
Speaker 4:You're going to go through it Exactly. Don't get me wrong. I think in this case that he was. He's somewhat right. Again, that goes back to what's the legality of whether or not they can. You know what I mean. Do they have the right to do those things to you? You know what I mean? Like have you have your window down and whatever. I don't know. I just thought that this was always. I actually thought it was the right thing to do.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. I think what we're forgetting is that this is Florida. It's the same place where Zimmerman shot Trayvon, and you are still a nigga.
Speaker 2:And the thing that you know, just to close this out, the thing that's more disturbing is, these was brown brothers.
Speaker 4:Like you know what I mean, like you were figured you know what I mean, Believe it or not, man and I'm not saying this because I have some good Mexican friends I was in the military with, but it's a lot of people just racist towards African-American people.
Speaker 2:That's crazy. I'm glad you said it because it's a good segue into our next topic.
Speaker 4:Before we go there, just quickly, y'all kids stop playing with these cops.
Speaker 2:Yeah, everybody's not. Tariq Hill, Don't play with these cops, Y'all ain't Tariq Hill man, nobody's driving up in the car man, hey, don't play with these cops. Even I even questioned to myself if it wasn't, you know, tarik hill, like you know the man in florida right now. You know what I mean. What if it was a rapper?
Speaker 4:you know what I mean, what if it was somebody like you know, me and all the people surrounding him and con. Something happened to them, cops, in the course of that quick second he was like wait a minute, we got the wrong person. No, they knew who it was. Even though, even though we got the wrong person no, they knew who it was. Even though we got the right person no, I doubt very seriously. When it was in the car, they knew who he was. Once all the people started gathering around, they said wait a minute, we got the wrong person. So we got to handle it differently. Matter of fact, after he got out the car and they had him on the floor, whatever like that, that portion where they made him sit down shortly- oh yeah, yeah, he said it.
Speaker 2:They knew exactly what he was dealing with, maybe the other cop didn't know who he was.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he said it back to his buddy.
Speaker 2:That's the recount. Well, anyway, getting back to the next segue, man, did y'all catch that debate last night? Absolutely, trump, master flex.
Speaker 1:I couldn't wait for it. I waited all day for it.
Speaker 2:Man, you know what?
Speaker 1:It was like a prize fight. Like you just wait to see. It was people that don't even talk about politics. Like I can't wait. You watching the debate tonight. Watching the debate tonight.
Speaker 2:Couldn't wait for it. Man, it's a mudslinger. There was a lot of mudslinging, but there was a lot of different takeaways.
Speaker 4:Hey, before we even get into that, let me tell you something, man, For all you white people that don't know that's white privilege.
Speaker 5:I just saw it last night with Donald Trump.
Speaker 4:It's the most dumbest, stupidest person that you can ever see stand in front of people and talk and he, just, he, just, it's just, it's's just. His white privilege is ma he has. It's so sweet. You know what I mean. I've never seen white privilege like this. You know, even after that disgusting debate last night, that disgusting performance, he actually walked down and you know, like normally politicians don't go down into the spin room, he walks down into the spin room after he's over and he's talking trash like, yeah, I killed it, this is my best debate ever Would he say that he lost?
Speaker 2:Would he say that he?
Speaker 4:lost. I don't think any of them would say that they were lost, but I don't think like just a perfect example, joe Biden. Joe Biden got his hat handed to him. Joe ain't coming down into the winning circle and saying yo man, I won.
Speaker 1:It was made much sense.
Speaker 4:No, it looks stupid. This is the arrogance in the like I told you, the special white privilege of Donald Trump. Man, I'll even go to, even go to show you that the people that are supposed to support him. That's why I don't even mess with politics, man. I literally watch people come on the news after this foolishness and actually say he won.
Speaker 1:I talked to somebody last night that said he won it's ridiculous.
Speaker 4:All of it is stupid, stupid. The man spent an hour and what 40, some odd minutes talking about absolutely nothing.
Speaker 1:He had no answers for everything but the questions that was asked. He talked about everything but no answers for nothing.
Speaker 2:I mean I expect him to be who he is. I expect him to be who he is. That's not right. I expect him to be exactly who he is.
Speaker 4:I'm going to be honest with you. I called the person before this I said because of the person that was supposedly training him for the debate. It's a woman that went toe-to-toe with Kamala Harris. I forget her name, but I saw that debate and she was giving Kamala Harris problems. You know what I mean debate and she was giving Kamala Harris problems. You know what I mean Because I think at one time or another she pulled up.
Speaker 4:You know, like Kamala Harris, like you know, you're supposed to be so liberal but you withheld information from a man. I believe he's on death row or he's on for life in prison. She was like you withheld purposely withheld information to jam somebody up and this is the kind of stuff that she was running all through the debate. So that was the person that was going to be. You know, like training trump. You know what I mean. So I thought he was gonna pull some of that stuff out of his bag and really I thought she had more to lose because she needs the black vote it was a few things that a few things that was held back, like, say, for instance, when he went back into his whole black job bag.
Speaker 2:If I was her, the first question I would ask to shut that down is what do you consider a black and brown job? You've been saying this for like the last few months. What do you actually consider a? Tell the american people what do you consider a black and brown job? What do you consider a black and brown job? I would have loved to hear his response to that. He wouldn't respond. He couldn't respond to it because what answer do you?
Speaker 1:give some type of way and start talking about uh, the border yeah, the border it was so stupid, man.
Speaker 4:you know, and I'm gonna tell you something else too, man, there was a um, a, I think this morning that pulled it out, man, that he said that he wanted to have him re-evaluated like Joe Biden. Man, there was a couple of portions in that conversation where he did a little Joe Biden, like he was going off, and I was like what is he talking about? It has nothing to do.
Speaker 2:I expect him to be exactly who he is. That's. That's exactly what all his interviews is like. I'm gonna say I'm gonna say even his other debates.
Speaker 4:He. I thought he was a little bit more point, as much as donald trump could be on point. I thought he was more on point in the other debates and that says nothing, but this one was the worst, do you think?
Speaker 2:do you think because joe biden was an easy layup on that last one that you was expecting too much.
Speaker 6:No, I, I just I just think, he would do what donald trump does.
Speaker 4:The the woman that he was training with was a much slinger. I thought that he was gonna go in there, just much slinger on him because really donald trump's base is going to do what they're going to do regardless yeah there you, he can, like he said he can kill somebody and get away with it.
Speaker 4:They don't, it don't matter. You know, I mean, but I think, for that debate was really about black people, it was about, uh, minorities and it was about some liberal white people that she could probably catch. I think it was all about about her thing. I think she had more to gain from winning that debate.
Speaker 2:Well, after this, I mean, if this dude still, you know, gets an office, then it just shows you where we at as a country.
Speaker 4:If he gets an office, then that goes back to what I said.
Speaker 1:That thing was sweet. If Kamala is elected, do you think nations like Russia, Iran, North Korea, China do you think they like Russia, Iran, North Korea, China do you think they will respect her?
Speaker 2:well, word on the street. Is Putin supposed to be supporting that's word on the street. But we also found out the other day that Haitians are eating dogs and cats. The brother that was at the find out, the other day that Haitians are eating dogs and cats.
Speaker 4:Trump is crazy.
Speaker 1:The brother that was at the city council meeting was talking about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've seen the actual and I sent y'all guys some videos. Man, and I gotta say, shout out to Tyler Oliveira, man, because he went straight to Springfield, ohio, and talked to the residents there. And if you have not seen that video, it is the funniest thing ever because in springfield it's a little backstory man. Springfield has about what like I think a little bit, over 15 000 haitian immigrants that they came to that particular town. Now, I don't know everybody in that town, but judging from that video, you know what I mean. They seemed a little racist. They only had one brother on there that was like, basically I'm a veteran and they taking all of this One brother, but the rest of that stuff, man, go back and watch the video.
Speaker 2:Shout out to Tyler Oliveira for going out there and interviewing the people, because I would have did the same thing if I had the time. That was the funniest thing ever. It's funny and it's sad at the same time, but we see where Springfield Ohio head is at. Let's just say they got Trump's vote. You know what I mean. But listen to what this nut said last night. Everybody's talking about it.
Speaker 6:They're eating the dogs, the people that came in. They're eating the cats. They're eating the cats, they're eating the pets of the people that live there, and this is what's happening in our country.
Speaker 7:I just want to clarify here. You bring up Springfield, ohio, and ABC News did reach out to the city manager there. He told us there had been no credible reports of specific claims of pets being harmed, injured or abused by individuals within the immigrant community.
Speaker 6:I've seen people on television. Let me just say this is the people on television saying my dog was taken and used for food. So maybe he said that and maybe that's a good thing to say for a city manager. I'm not taking this from television. But the people on television are saying their dog was eaten by the people that went there.
Speaker 7:Again, the Springfield city manager says there's no evidence of that vice president harris, I'll let you respond to the rest of what you've heard that is.
Speaker 4:That is that's so sad man?
Speaker 2:on many levels man it's so sad, man.
Speaker 4:You know, I remember when I was a kid man we would see walter mondale and you know all of those other people I mean I, you know, I mean it's just, at least they were good candidates, man. I guess you guess you know what I mean. He don't even seem presidential.
Speaker 2:Who says stuff like that?
Speaker 4:Who I mean.
Speaker 2:I never said that, and I'm going to give you a little bit of undertone on that. Did you just call black people savages, pretty much.
Speaker 4:I lived next to Haitians for many years. I have not known to eat nothing. Weird and strange.
Speaker 1:Okay, so the video that I saw the brother was talking about. They was grabbing ducks out the pond and eating them well, that's also in that video I sent you guys.
Speaker 2:They were saying that they was going to get the Canadian swans or something like that, I don't know, and they were bringing them over. But it doesn't seem like anybody has something solid. They just saying like, well, there was a truck full of cats driven by some Haitians or something. It's like the stories just seem like something that's like hand-me-down, like the boogeyman.
Speaker 4:They might have ate them ducks. I don't know about no swan, but they might have ate them ducks. That's jacked up man. You know Caribbean people and old black people eat some of the similar things. Man Grandmother done cooked duck man they might have filleted that duck Jack.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, it was so. Stupid man. That's the situation that they have over there in Springfield Ohio.
Speaker 4:Even that other goofy garbage where he talks about executing babies. When it gets on the abortion topic, talking about you know they're killing babies.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, this is my thing. Right Again, I didn't go into this thing as a supporter of Kamala Kamala and I ain't going to it as a supporter of Trump. I just certain issues. I liked that he talked about, certain issues. I liked what Kamala talked about. One thing I can't get with Trump is police immunity and I bring that up because we just seen that Tyreek Hill video and that's the main objective on his docket is police is pushing police immunity. Yeah, that's not cool. Yeah, not at all. Along with the abortion thing. Now, on the other side, with Kamala, we know we talked about it earlier this year with that gender reconstruction crap.
Speaker 2:Yeah, which he was to Trump's point. He did bring that up, you know. I mean, he did bring that up.
Speaker 1:That's something that they're supporting, but I also agree that a woman should have the right to do whatever she chooses with her body. Now, on another note, I also agree that if a man does not want the child, we should have some say-so you laughing.
Speaker 4:I'm serious. First off, man, I don't agree with abortion. This is my spiritual belief. Me and you always talk about. We disagree on that. Even if that was something that was passed, they'll never give a man the right to say you know what I mean? No, say-so.
Speaker 1:This is the thing. We can't tell a woman to get an abortion right. We can't make her. She can get an abortion if she choose, and she can also choose not to. And now you're on a hook for 18 years.
Speaker 4:I've heard this argument many different ways. It ain't going to never fly.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying man, like you know what I mean. I'm just saying man, come on, we got to make a change.
Speaker 4:Like you said, I agree with. Trump on a lot of when it comes to my thing about it, he doesn't seem like he promotes that homosexuality. You know what I mean. So that's the one thing I one of the one things I agree with him. And again, I don't agree with abortion. So there's something. Like you said, what they say, a broken clock is right.
Speaker 1:Two, times a day, yeah, but I can't never, as a black man, ever rock with police immunity.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, no, that's another one, and speaking of which, this is, you know, Kamala Harris and Donald Trump discussing the whole when she brought up the Project 2025 situation. I want y'all to listen to this and see if y'all caught the same thing that I caught. All right, I caught it too. Yeah, All right, I know what you're about to say. All right, so go ahead, check this out.
Speaker 5:What you're going to hear tonight is a detailed and dangerous plan called Project 2025 that the former president intends on implementing if he were elected again. Former president intends on implementing if he were elected again. I believe very strongly that the American people want a president who understands the importance of bringing us together, knowing we have so much more in common than what separates us, and I pledge to you to be a president for all Americans.
Speaker 7:President Trump will give you a minute here to respond.
Speaker 6:Number one I have nothing to do. As you know, and as she knows better than anyone, I have nothing to do with Project 2025. That's out there. I haven't read it. I don't want to read it, purposely, I'm not going to read it. This was a group of people that got together. They came up with some ideas, I guess some good, some bad, but it makes no difference. I have nothing to do.
Speaker 4:Everybody knows I'm an open book.
Speaker 2:Everybody knows what I'm going to do.
Speaker 4:He said some good, some bad. How did you know that? If you didn't read it, I'm wearing a part of it. Well, I guess he was saying I guess some of the ideas were good, some bad.
Speaker 2:He didn't. Yeah, you don't know.
Speaker 1:You didn't read it. Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, these are politicians. They are experts at double talk.
Speaker 4:What he's doing is he's not saying no, you know what I mean. So he leaves it in the back of the head. So all of those people who are working on 2025 are saying oh okay.
Speaker 2:I'll put it to you like this If you're not associated with it, right, and he's saying plainly like I'm not associated with it, I don't know nothing about it, she's wrong. Whatever, that means that somebody had to tell you at least what it was about yeah, how can you say some of the ideas were good and some of them weren't?
Speaker 4:well, I think that's what he was saying. He said, I guess, some of the ideas were good, some of them weren't, but the whole point of it is, at the end of the day, it's like there's no way possible. You're running for the president of the united states. They've every person that's campaigning against him is talking about 2025. To say that you don't know what's it, what it is and what's in it, it doesn't make any sense. That's kind of like that's your Achilles heel.
Speaker 5:You know what I mean.
Speaker 4:There's no way that you don't know what's in that document. It doesn't make sense. Yeah yeah, man, not to say that you sat down and hand-read everything, but you know what people are not happy with.
Speaker 1:Yeah, even when you hear it, you would go investigate or have somebody go investigate. What are they talking about? You know what I mean. Is that really in that thing?
Speaker 2:Let me know what's in it.
Speaker 4:I'll tell you the one thing that stood out to me that if Barack did it, this country would have lost their minds Last night when they asked him, did he want Ukraine to win or lose? And he kept dancing around the answer to that question. If Barack had, if that would have seemed like Barack was siding with the Russians, they would have called him a Marxist all kind of weird old garbage. You know, like you know, he's a dictator. You know what I mean. He's one of the ones that dictatorship, you know. But somehow now, because of Trump, all of these uh, you know super United States cowboys and you know Midwestern people who hated Russia for years, now have become some sort of wonderful relationship with Vladimir Putin. You know what I mean. And they're cool with any kind of relationship with this foolishness. At this point, it's amazing to me and all of this means nothing because I don't vote and I don't care. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:I just watch it.
Speaker 4:I don't care, I just watch it like I watch Seinfeld or something like that man.
Speaker 1:I definitely watched it for the comedy. I don't necessarily I can't see myself voting for either candidate because I don't believe in neither one of them. But what I will say is this Just from looking at the debate, donald Trump's worst nightmare is a black woman. Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah and not necessarily saying it, you know I got my own views about that. I'm going to leave that alone. But you know he couldn't To have to talk against her like it was a no-win.
Speaker 2:Yeah, most definitely.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you need a brother man, you need a Q-Dog to get up in there and get this conversation, so the person can talk to an AK, what's your AK? Or something like that.
Speaker 4:Something like that, something like that. But yeah, donald, yeah, that's Donald. Trump is a nut job man. It should be a shame. It's a shame that we had to sit through that. Like you said, it was entertaining. But I'll tell you what's the funniest, one of the funniest points on here when he said when he started talking about the dogs being eaten, kamala Harris is crying, laughing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I noticed that. I noticed that too.
Speaker 4:It's hilarious man. She almost looked like what's my man in Martin when he was at the players' ball and he was laughing at Antonio Foggins when he was doing the thing. Jerome, she was clowning him, man.
Speaker 1:Look at Laris out there, man, I'll tell you. The part that made me laugh is that Donald Trump couldn't wait to tell her to shut up because he talking he was like I'm talking. You remember that, don't you? This nigga couldn't wait to get that on.
Speaker 2:The stinger was this former president.
Speaker 4:Yeah, she was about that close to giving him the whole clip? Yeah, she was about to let one go.
Speaker 2:Well, she said that was her favorite curse word, which is crazy, but she said that so she was about to let it go.
Speaker 1:You seen it?
Speaker 2:yeah, you know what that's about, interesting stuff. So, like again, takeaway from this one is the whole Tariq Hill situation. Everybody is pretty much, you know, spliced down the border. The cops was actually wrong, very much wrong. You know what I mean, but how do we handle it? You know what I mean. How do we handle situations like that, you know. And also also, of course we talked about this you know situation with the uh debate and all of the comedy spectacle that donald trump was last night so pretty much I mean.
Speaker 2:And we also learned that you know apparently dogs, cats and ducks, swans, whatever.
Speaker 4:Hey, you seen the joint on my Facebook page the other day. Somebody put a picture with a dog in it. I called it Migrate Stew.
Speaker 1:I see so many memes with little household animals in a van.
Speaker 4:Somebody put a Yorkie in a pot on the stove. It wasn't fried, it wasn't frying it.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. Just put them in the stove, but it's funny.
Speaker 2:Well, you know who can't go investigate this situation, right? Who's that Scooby-Doo?
Speaker 4:In the words of Richard Pryor vote for none of the above man.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, listen, I'll leave you with this. The lesser of two evils, whoever you might deem as evil, is still evil, Still evil.
Speaker 4:Oh no, let me tell you before we go man this is the one thing that I hate that people are saying, when they say this stuff, the devil you know is better than the devil that you don't know. I don't like me.
Speaker 1:The devil it's still the devil at the end of the day, so remember you know what, you know what's crazy though I gotta, I gotta, I gotta say this the forefathers intended for the people, if they didn't agree with what their representation was being that they can overthrow that. That's what a coup is. America has made it in a way now. That's the reason why they're trying to ban assault weapons, because you can never even but the military, their technology is so above the regular people. You could never overthrow that. So we are forced to have to vote for the last of two evils, or just not vote at all, and it's like the people who actually have ideas to change the country can never actually get on the ballot because of the way that these little political systems are set up.
Speaker 2:And you know what, and I know we're about to wrap up, but though I don't agree with it, and this is a topic for a completely different show if we want to do it you said something interesting about you know that's what the whole setup was is for you to be able to overthrow the government if you didn't agree with it. Right same thing happened on January 6th. You know what I mean, even though it wasn't for us, but I mean it actually, that that's what happened. A lot of them, cats went to prison.
Speaker 4:That wasn't an overthrow, that was a not light party, yeah, but I mean you know what I mean, just the thought of doing it.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean? Because, again, the whole purpose is to run up in there and get whoever's in there out of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but the thing is, let's be honest, none of that seems right to me, because I haven't been to the Capitol before and their security is way better than that. So what happened? Everybody just took off that day and just allowed the mob to rush the door and get in there and break the door and all that. It don't make sense.
Speaker 2:Well, the point I'm trying to make is all of it is a show. None of it is meant for you to actually do it, it just sounds good and I go back to I bring it totally home, man.
Speaker 4:This one goes back to what I just said. You can grab them in the the cooch. You can send a coup to washington. Um, you can. You can stand on the podium say you can kill somebody in new york and get away with it. I mean you.
Speaker 2:You can accuse Haitians of eating dogs and cats.
Speaker 4:Haitians of eating dogs and cats.
Speaker 2:You can be a convicted of you know, I won't let that one go. J, that's what you think you can be convicted of.
Speaker 4:a sexual crime and somehow you can still run for president as a white.
Speaker 2:Oh, let's not forget bribing off old porn stars for hiding dirty deeds. That's crazy. Misuse misappropriate campaign funds, make deals with the Russians. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. I don't know how I let this one slip. One last thing that he said. That was funny. Did you hear the part when he said that you know he sat down with the head of the Taliban? Yeah, yeah, and he said his name was Abdul. Yeah, yeah, and he was like you better. I'm just paraphrasing it, folks, you better knock it off. No well, why am I? Hey, mr President, why do you got a picture of my house? You better figure it out, abdul. I'm not a Trump fan, but that is probably the most gangsterous thing I heard in about two weeks At the end of the day you gotta say it is some New York.
Speaker 2:That is some real hardcore.
Speaker 4:Drop the ad. You heard the kid say it.
Speaker 2:He dropped the ad. He showed him a picture of his crib. Figure it out, Abdul. Figure it out.
Speaker 4:I've heard he's done that on a couple occasions in different countries.
Speaker 2:That is bugged out, but I think that happened. What about two?
Speaker 4:years ago, walked in a meeting, did the same thing, showed somebody like yo, didn't even talk to him. Like yo, figure it out. If you can. In the words of the great Philadelphia legend, you can get down to later.
Speaker 2:All right, let's wrap this up. Oh, one more thing. I don't keep saying I'm going to wrap this up, man, y'all know James Earl Jones passed away. Everybody know that. And I just have one quick question before we go man, name one of your favorite James Earl Jones movies that was not Star Wars, because everything that I've seen in the news play was basically Star Wars and the Lion King. Claudine, claudine.
Speaker 1:What? No, that's not it Coming to America.
Speaker 2:Coming to America, I like Claudine man. Claudine was good. Bingo Long, yeah, Bingo Long, Bingo Long. Traveling All-Stars Motor King. Billy Dee Williams and Richard Pryor along.
Speaker 2:traveling all-stars motor king billy d, billy d williams and uh, true, prior wasn't he in one of the let's do it again on one of them, like that? No, no, no, I'm thinking uh, um, I think he was playing the great white hope too. Yeah, he was, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Harry bella fonte is who I was thinking about, but, um, yeah, the great white hope.
Speaker 4:I feel the dreams probably, and also Tilly, probably the most well known for reading the bible. Yeah, you know what I mean shout out everybody in the world driving around listening to James Earl Jones bible CDs, man you know your daughter is beneath me alright, y'all, let's get out of here.
Speaker 2:We had too much fun, jay. Good to have you back, brother. Alright, so we should have the whole squad. All right, y'all, let's get out of here, man. We had too much fun, jay. Good to have you back, brother. All right, so we should have the whole squad together real soon, y'all. So look out for that.
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