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Have HBCU Homecoming Fashions Gone Too Far? & Obama Spits Bars in Detroit
This episode explores the conflict between fashion and values at HBCU homecomings. TikTok sensation Black Shea has sparked debates over bold outfits, revealing tensions between alumni and current students about modern trends versus tradition. We also discuss how political figures like Barack Obama shape public perception, contributing to the conversation on celebrity influence and moral decline in entertainment.
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Speaker 2:Give me a moment with your friend, I've never been up to my thoughts before. Welcome to the only One Mic Podcast called Gerard and Brooklyn Trey In the building tonight, man, just having a good old-fashioned common sense conversation. What up, dre?
Speaker 3:What's going on, shut?
Speaker 2:it up Night man. What we're going to do is we're going to discuss this sister that's on TikTok at the Black Shea and I guess she's going viral over outfits that was worn at the Black Shea and I guess she's going viral over outfits that was worn at the HBCU homecomings. From what she said, a lot of brothers and sisters had on some real colorful outfits and the argument was basically that you represent the schools and all, and the elders out there, the alumni, had to reprimand them for the way that they were dressed and you know, showing a lot of cleavage and you know skin and whatnot, and so I just wanted to get everybody you know, of course, us, but then everybody out there take on it. You know, was she right? You know what I mean? Was she right in what she's saying? So what I'm going to do is I'm going to play this clip and this is at the Black Shea on TikTok.
Speaker 3:Let's just first of all, before we go there, just say I mean, she is right, you know, she's probably a parent now. You know what I mean and you know sometimes I guess we look back on ourselves and you know we wish we probably would, we would have done better, you know. So maybe that's what she's hoping for her children now, you know, or you know these children that are going to these schools and stuff like that. But you know, sometimes we get a little holier than thou when we get older man. You know what I mean, and I'm not saying it's not wrong to get that way. Well, I don't say holier than thou, but she probably just looking at it now and not really realizing what she did when she was at that age.
Speaker 3:If she did it, because we don't know If she did it yeah, we don't know.
Speaker 2:But what I'll do is I'll play the clip. Hbcu homecoming outfits have gone too far, so check this out.
Speaker 1:It's sad when HBCU alumni go to their homecoming and didn't have to jump on this app and reprimand the students because it was so much out for homecoming Like this, which are learning at the tune of 25,000 a year. Y'all didn't have to go to college to be looking like that and I'm gonna touch y'all hand when I say this You're pretty from the front. There is a dehumanization that we do to ourselves as black women when we put all our stock, all our glories, in our ass where no one can see our face. You're not a horse, you're not a dog. You're not some animal. You're a woman. You're a woman. Dr Du Bois coined the term the talented 10th and it may have been classes or leaders, but those who go to this is college. It's a university. That's the number one place to level up, like beyond there's elders, there beyond there's children, there beyond there's connections made. Represent your college well, and I want to represent the best of my university, not the worst.
Speaker 3:You know, just before we started this we looked at some videos of homecoming from 2024. Looked at some videos of um homecoming from 2024 and I don't know what she saw. Maybe she you know up close and personal. But I was just going through some of the videos and stuff like that and, to be honest with you, all of the uh events I went to as a child the freak nicks, the aggie fest, uh, virginia beach greek fest, jones beach greek fest. To be honest with you, the Virginia Beach Greek Fest, jones Beach Greek Fest to be honest with you, they pretty much dress the same. The only difference, I would say, is is that it's a lot more homosexuals in there yeah man, yeah man, you gotta call it what it is.
Speaker 2:I mean, if you know, you look at my outfits man. I got some questions about these brothers out here man.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. Like, what's going on with that? Now, I know that a lot of these corporations like I've seen something from Nordstrom Rack that you know when it comes down to Black College Week, they say, well, you know, we celebrate black designers. They say, well, you know, we celebrate black designers. And so I don't know if a lot of the outfits that she was referring to were, you know, made by black designers, young black designers, that's in these, in these colleges and all the universities, and maybe that's where all this is coming from. I don't know. A lot of people online had a lot of mixed feelings about, you know, her statements.
Speaker 2:Of course, you have, like, a lot of young people who, as you said, you know you know, the older, the older cats are now looking at us like they never did these things and all. So I mean I can say, I mean, you got a daughter. I can say, I mean, you got a daughter, I have a daughter too. And it's just like I can understand in the sense that you're saying, well, y'all did it and you don't want to, you know, act like you've never done it and look down on us for doing it and let us live our life and all that happy stuff. But then I also think, as an adult, there's certain things that we tell our kids to say well, don't go down this path, because we know how that ending will be. It's certain things that we tell our kids to say well, don't go down this path because we know how that ending will be.
Speaker 3:It's your responsibility.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you have to do that.
Speaker 3:It's your responsibility as a parent. I mean, like you said, it's again. I was at the Freaknik three years in a row. I went to Virginia Beach Greek Fest, the Aggie Fest, and from the videos that they showed on YouTube regarding the Howard Homecoming for 2024, the few that I looked at I was looking to see if I could see something pertaining to what she's talking about and, to be honest with you, I didn't see anything different than what was done back at those times. I'm quite sure maybe she, you know, I would, honestly speaking, I looked at the video and as soon as I heard what she said, I just knew it was going to be worse than what you know, than what she was talking about, you know, but I just didn't see it.
Speaker 3:I'm not saying it didn't happen. It probably did happen. You know. She probably is seeing some crazy outfits and stuff like that. Let's understand this. These black college events have always been outrageous, going back to my time from 93, 96, I was going to all them events. They was outrageous. Back then I wouldn't say that there was women walking them, but then again you had the beach. It was on the beach too, and the bikinis and everything.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, we gotta separate two different things, you know, because at the end of the day, the Freaknik is not an HBCU college.
Speaker 3:Well, the Freaknik originally was supposed to be you know something different from what I understand, and then it just it morphed into something else. You from what I understand, and then it just it morphed into something else.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean. So that's when they started changing the name of it. But even I think the last year I went. I think they tried to name it in something different, like the Freedom Fest or something like that, but I think I went I don't know if it was 93 or 92. The police gave up. That's how bad it was. In the freakney, like I've literally watched the police just say all right, we done. You know, I mean the street, the city went rampant and everything like that. So I'm not condoning what these kids are doing now because we're older, we're grown, you know we live, trying to live a righteous life, you know. But you know to keep it a buck, I didn't see anything different than what was done back then at that time.
Speaker 2:You know, somebody brought something up to me when I mentioned this is that we have, you know, as black folks, we have our homecomings, which, you know, has its traditional roots in terms of why they have it. But when you look at a lot of the white universities, Worse. I would argue yes, yes.
Speaker 2:Except that we just don't see it. I mean it's not videotaped and all that Because I mean young Caucasian women dress just as bad as you see, if not worse than you know. These women we see here, however, it's like do they really have have? I know they have homecomings, don't get me wrong, I'm not silly about that. But do they focus more on the football and all that where you don't see the pageantry of their homecoming?
Speaker 3:let me tell you something, man, them, them, uh. White college events. Like I said again, I was in the military, so I have white friends, man. You know what I mean at that. During those times, man, these white events are just as bad, probably even worse. The only thing is is that they usually have it whereas it's like isolated maybe that's the word I'm looking for.
Speaker 3:Like you don't see much of it or hear anything about it yeah, I don't know I could be, but it doesn't seem like they're dumb enough to upload all of their foolishness on YouTube.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:And I could be wrong. I'm not looking for it or anything like that, but you know, I just don't see that stuff on YouTube. But I know from these white fraternities and white sororities oh man, it's like Caligula in them joints, man.
Speaker 3:I mean so you know, I guarantee you, if you were able to put together some inside video you know what I mean it's like some FBI footage of this stuff. But then compare the white fraternities to these black fraternities and sorority man, the white fraternities will look at them like yo. What y'all doing down there it's kindergarten work, man. You know what I mean. I'm telling you it's nasty out there, man. You know they go real crazy at them, white fraternities.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, you know it's like Animal House man Stuff ain't coming out. Yeah, they stuff ain't coming out. Yeah, have a dog on horse on coke and all type of stuff.
Speaker 3:You don't know what. What's going on in them things, man. You know, they, they, they get busy at them events and a lot of times even I'm gonna tell you something about, you know, having white friends. You know when, especially my military buddies, man, white people rent a lake, young people, they'll rent a whole lake, man, and they'll have their boats out, all kinds of other stuff like that Bonfires. Bonfires. They're doing all kinds of wild stuff and the police overlook that stuff, man.
Speaker 2:Police really overlook it.
Speaker 3:They cover it up, they overlook it. You know what I mean. Unless there's, they'll let them have those events, they'll let them wild out in those events and if somebody gets out of order, they'll extract them from the event, but the event continues to go on. You know, different from you know, and I'm not condoning any of this. You know what I mean. I'm not condoning any of it. I'm just saying that you know, when it comes to these black events, they looked at like some sort of you know, wild, savage parties. But the same thing is going on in these white events.
Speaker 2:Well, you, know what, something that we discussed off air, and I mean we haven't, you know, been on when things like this were happening. But you were saying before about we like the only people that kind of openly correct our people, right? So even if you look at the thing that Obama did with black men and voting, and then you see things like this, and I mean she's not Obama, of course it may not go as far as Obama's thing did, but it's just like, is it warranted to have to like kind of do it this way If it's an open shame like the kind of oh, she's right man.
Speaker 2:On front street.
Speaker 3:We don't have a choice with our people. These days, man, a lot of things have gotten out of control to the point where you got to say something, man, and because again.
Speaker 2:She said the alum, the alumni, reprimanded a lot of these kids for the way that they dress. Alumni reprimanded a lot of these kids for the way that they dress.
Speaker 3:So, like I said, I'm only going off of what you know. I tried to Google some to you know, some of the homecoming events and I'm probably we probably was bombarded on YouTube with like the good stuff.
Speaker 2:So I don't know. Yeah, I kind of research too.
Speaker 3:I'm quite sure this crazy music that we got going on now with these kids and it highly over sexual, sexualized content in the music and these videos and stuff like that. I'm quite sure what this lady probably was exposed to was, um, the after, you know, like the after parties or yeah, just before they're about to start, just just before it was about to start.
Speaker 3:So I'm quite sure she did see some things. I just saw from the videos that you know I saw it was about to start, so I'm quite sure she did see some things. I just saw from the videos that you know I saw it was kind of tame. You know what I mean. I won't say tame. It's no different than what I saw when I was at the Freaknik when I was a kid. The only difference is I didn't see and what I saw at the Freaknik people was having sex in cars, all kind of crazy garbage back then.
Speaker 2:But something that she said in that video that kind of struck me is actually a couple of things. Number one she was like the elders are there, you're doing this around the elders and things like that. This is where the reprimanding supposedly had come from.
Speaker 3:That's probably where a good point is made, because again, the freakness wasn't about no elders Right right, you know what I mean, you know, a lot of the stuff that popped off back in them days didn't really happen at the football game. You know what I mean. It didn't happen in front of elders. When this stuff happened it was at the beach.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:It was at the downtown Atlanta. You know what I mean. And not to say that it wasn't no grown people in those areas, but it wasn't like no alumni just chilling downtown Atlanta during the freak Nick. If they was, then they was down there for the get down. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. And then she also says in it about um, you know, it was so much. You know, rump shone and everything like that that. You know you're not an animal, you're putting that on display. You're more beautiful from the front. You know, and we've said this on this show several times, several times, like, like you say, the over sexualization of music and entertainment, and this is pretty much all we know our sisters for doing. The entertainment is, you know, nobody's shaking their rum, nobody's really paying attention to what's coming out their mouth, they're just looking at them shaking on the stage. So, you know, what do you feel? Do you think that was you know, correcting that to say well, you know, listen, you're more beautiful from the front than you are from the back.
Speaker 2:Don't put all your value and work from your back.
Speaker 3:I like what she did. She, you know what I'm saying. It's no tear them down and build them up, kind of conversation. You know what I mean. Like you know she didn't go in there and just rip them a new one, which she did, you know she should have. But on the same token token, she was like you, like how you would tell a young brother in the street that's doing something wrong. You'd be like yo man, I see you selling drugs, but you're a king, you know. I mean you know there's god within you, you know. I mean like, don't diminish the, the god within you, you know. So you're telling them that he's doing wrong, but you're building them up at the same time. So I think she did a good job she did.
Speaker 2:But I mean, of course, naturally we live in an age where people are not going to take this stuff lightly at all and say well, you know, she's right. You have a few people that were saying she was right within the comments I'd love to see some footage of what she's talking about.
Speaker 3:See, and again, I'm quite sure, because initially, when you told me about this topic, I was thinking oh yeah, as soon as I log on to this, I'm about to see a bunch of these little girls looking like uh, what's the little rap girl gorilla, girl, gorilla and Ice Spice and all them Ice Spice and all them goofy bras.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean. I thought we was going to see some of that, but you know from the daytime footage of the the good stuff that was. You know that's on YouTube. I just saw the now again.
Speaker 2:That's just one.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's somebody's point interview you know I mean.
Speaker 3:So yeah, it might have. It might be some videos out there, something crazy you know.
Speaker 2:I mean like yeah, I'm quite sure, I'm quite sure in the daytime, and then you have what you have at night and again, like I said, I question a lot of these young brothers out here like man everybody in them.
Speaker 3:In them games ain't in howard university that's true too. That's true everybody's coming in games in Howard University. Like I said, when we was out there, we wasn't in college, we was in the military.
Speaker 3:We wasn't in college, we was out there. You know, having fun and again, I'm not condoning this we were young children, we did dumb things and like that lady right now who knows, I don't know who she is or like that she might be going to church. Now, you know, when you're looking through things, through them righteous, you know not saying we holy than thou again, but when you start looking through things to your moral, your new moral discipline that you've learned and from reading the scriptures and stuff like that, you know I look at things now like things I used to look at and be like, oh my goodness, that was wonderful to me at one time. Now I look at it and be like, oh no, that's disgusting.
Speaker 2:Can't do it yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean. So maybe that's what she's looking through.
Speaker 2:That could be it too. And I mean you know it's again a lot of the young people and this is a message to any young person that might be listening to it, or if you know a young person that you know, you listen to it and you let them know this is that one day you're going to be that elder and what might seem young, wild and free to you today, you know I mean, is going to be a totally different ball game as you get older. If, if and that's a big if if you're mature enough or if you've grown something in your life. You know I mean in terms of saying you know what I mean, in terms of saying you know I got older, my thoughts changed. I got kids. I got a family.
Speaker 2:Do I want my wife going out here looking like this? Do I want my daughter going out here looking like this? Do I want my son going out here looking like this? Because, again, a lot of young brothers out there have some questionable stuff on. So it's like do you want, you know? Do you want you know, do you want your people going out like this? My thought pattern might be different at my current age than it was 20 years ago, and it should be. It should be different, you know. If not, I wasted years of my life if I didn't have a change of thought. So you know, that's just my message to the young folks out there.
Speaker 3:Everybody know that. Listen, man, your kids are going to do what you're going to do. You're going to make mistakes. I pray that you don't make the mistakes that I made. I guess that's what this woman is probably trying to tell these kids. You don't know what experience that woman might have. She might have went to one of these events and, as a young person, end up pregnant, or something like that she woman might have. She might have went to one of these events and, as a young person, end up pregnant, or something like that. You know what I mean. She's probably telling you now don't get yourself in this or get raped.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean, because a lot of people back then got raped, ended up with children that were on a one night stand.
Speaker 1:All kind of crazy garbage Disease, aids, all kinds of venereal diseases and everything like that of crazy garbage, and maybe that's what she's.
Speaker 3:Yeah, aids People are working with AIDS, yeah, all kinds of venereal diseases and everything like that. So she might be looking at things from those eyes and saying like please don't mess your life up, man, you could be better. You can be a queen, you know what I mean. You could be a king. You know what I mean. I see the. This is supposed to be, you know and I never really liked this term with them HBCUs, with the fraternities and so on. That's supposed to be the elite crew. You know what I mean? That's what she's saying.
Speaker 2:The talented 10th. As elitist as it may sound, but the truth of the matter is she also said represent your school. I counted that by saying represent yourself and your people, man, better than that, forget the school. You know what I mean. You got to represent yourself better than that.
Speaker 3:Another thing too, man, like even that thing with I think they just put the video out some time ago with the Freaknik and all the other stuff like that and then they had to go through all kinds of things to get the video put up. Because there's a lot of people on there now who are judges you know what I mean who's politicians and different things, you know I mean. Then now they don't want to. I never understood that, even as a kid, you know. I mean like we would tape ourselves and stuff like that, if it's something you know. Like somebody had a video camera, you know it would be a nice situation. You didn't tape yourself doing nothing stupid. No, you know, I mean. You know you just didn't take tape yourself doing nothing stupid. No, you know, I mean you know you just didn't take tape yourself. We didn't do it that that way. So I don't know, this new generation will tape themselves on some some of the most craziest things.
Speaker 2:So you know they'll tape yourself doing crime, you know, sex, whatever I've seen a video where somebody was taping themselves cooking crack and parent must have walked in like they making a TikTok video of them cooking crack. The parent walked in and lost it. You know what I mean. As they should.
Speaker 3:As they should.
Speaker 2:Walked in the house and you cooking, crack on the stove.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean Just openly, openly confessing to committing a crime, and you know this is what they do. You know everything goes on camera. So again, I've always even told my own children, man, like stay away from them cameras, man. Because again you know what I mean. You can, you can. It's like, it's like high school. You know how we do something crazy.
Speaker 3:I mean, in New York it's probably different, but these local high schools in these areas like Delaware, you know these little small areas. When you do something wrong in these little small schools like in Delaware or something like that, it follows you throughout your life. New York you might be able to get away because you know, you know it's got so many other things to think about, not to mention school is spanned out. You might see a dude for these four years. You might never see that man again ever in life. And these little small areas in the same city, these small areas, you're gonna see them same people again. Yeah, yeah, I mean so they're gonna remember. Oh, she went down in the, uh, the bathroom and took on four dudes. You know what I mean? Yeah, something crazy.
Speaker 3:No matter how old you get, in these little small areas, people are never going to forget. They're never going to forget. They're going to always remember you. You know what I mean for whatever foolishness you did, but now the whole thing about it now is like, instead of doing it in that little small school, you got videotaped. Sooner or later, 30 years from now, your children might see you being tossed up in the air in some club. You know what I mean. How can you look mommy in the face then? You know what I mean, or respect that and again that goes back to I think we were talking about earlier is that when these kids see your faults and not to say that you're not going to have faults as a parent, but when these children see your faults, they start thinking of you as their equal.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's the big issue.
Speaker 3:You and your mom want to take you out to the club, you want to smoke weed with your dad, all that other stuff like that, and he'll allow you to do it. And once he allow you to do it, what happens is later. He want to be, he want to tell you when he's so broke, he want to tell you what to do and he be like nah, we equal now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, why am I listening to you?
Speaker 3:Yeah, why am I listening to you? You smoke weed with me. You know what I mean. It don't make no difference. You know what I mean. I don't got no respect for your opinion. I wouldn't have, you know, that kind of respect for my father's my own father and mother's opinion If they was out there getting high and smoke and drinking with me and in the club with me. Could you imagine your mom in the club with you?
Speaker 2:Some people doing it. Yeah, I, some people got mom and grandma in the club.
Speaker 3:Yeah, in the club with them together. Y'all shaking y'all behind, men all up on you and everything like that, giving you phone numbers and all kinds of other stuff like that. You competing with your daughter.
Speaker 2:That's crazy right.
Speaker 3:You competing with your daughter.
Speaker 2:That's a wild business. That's a wild business, man.
Speaker 3:You competing with your daughter and then later on you want to tell her about finance, finances and, uh, you want to talk to her about you know how she should, um, uh, get picked better men and all kind of other stuff like that. You know, I mean you can't, you can't have that conversation.
Speaker 3:You know you usually you, you are useless as a parent. Once you uh what they used to call weed. Um, I don't know. The five percenters made this. They used to call it the equalizer. You remember that. You know why it's called the equalizer, because once you're a smoke, I don't care if you're 60 or you're 5, you're all on the same page.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean. Yeah, and that's how these kids look at it. Once you drink a drink with me, you get as drunk as I do. You get as high as I do. You get as high as I am. You know we partied. You did all the stupid stuff in the party I did. You can't come home and be mom and dad no more.
Speaker 2:Nah, it goes out the window.
Speaker 3:It goes out the window.
Speaker 2:But yeah, that's our message to the people. So I just ask y'all that's listening this lady, the black Shea, say what she say in regards to the young girl's dressing at the Howard homecomings or the HBCU homecoming. Was she right? Do you think she was right? Do you think she was wrong? You can leave it in the comments, let us know. I mean, we all ears to hear this one, because I'm pretty sure there's like a lot of varied opinions on this. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Man, hold on, let me say this I remember years ago and I think we just talked about this when, uh, c delores tuck was rolling over them cds and whatever, whatever tupac, and I'm not being young and saying like, ah man, you know that's bad, you know why is she doing that, or whatever, like that. I want to get a bulldozer and rolling over some of these cds and dvds. Now, man, you know, I mean you know, with some of these CDs and DVDs, now, man, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:You know, with some of these young women, the music that they're putting out and stuff like that. Young.
Speaker 2:Brothers too. Man, I heard some crazy stuff today.
Speaker 3:As you get older. Like you said, man, we're getting older. Nobody wants to play holier than thou. You know what I mean, because I always want to speak to children and say you know, like yo, I drank liquor and I did those things, but I got kidney issues as a result of that. You know, you got children out of wedlock as a result of that.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Broken homes in regard. You know these are the things that come with that. You know it may seem fun at the time, but all of those things can come back and really one mistake can alter your life. We're not just talking about, we're just giving it down to. Maybe you might sleep with somebody you shouldn't. Now you got a child with somebody you can't even stand. Maybe you went to a club and you high and everything like that. I've been with friends and family members that you know ended their life. You know what I mean, in the club, thinking it was just going to be a good night. You know what I mean. Things can change man, so maybe that's why this lady is talking. I mean, maybe we might be going a little too extreme, but that's what this lady is talking about man.
Speaker 2:You know might be going a little too extreme, but that's what that lady talking about. Man, you know, like shopping up man, we like people, yep, and that's what it is, you know.
Speaker 3:I mean so listen, um, lighten up man, did you see obama's detroit rally the other day? No, but I heard about it yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:um got on stage and I rapped with the crowd, quoting Eminem lyrics. Actually, oh yeah, I heard about that. I heard about that. I'm going to let y'all listen to this. This is Obama, you know. Don't lose yourself. Check this out.
Speaker 1:You know I have done a lot of rallies so I don't usually get nervous, but I was feeling some kind of way following Eminem. Now I notice my palms are sweaty, knees, weak arms are heavy, vomit on my sweater already minds are forgetting.
Speaker 3:I'm nervous, butitome, of what you have to be, to be. He's probably the best black politician we've ever had in our life, man.
Speaker 2:He's actually campaigning better than Kamala.
Speaker 3:Obama is the kind of guy that you know, everybody, everybody, black or white, wants to hang out with man. The guy is amazing man, you know. I mean I don't vote and I don't believe none of this stuff, but if I was a voting person I'd vote for Obama.
Speaker 2:He's a charismatic guy, man, but I mean you got to really look at it like this man with a difference maybe about a week or so make, because you know the black community was tearing him a new, maybe about a week or so make, because you know the black community was tearing them a new one about that whole misogynistic man thing.
Speaker 3:Obama can do no wrong man. They probably just ripped into him for a little light check, but I'm telling you he's one of them people man. He can't do no wrong man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, he can.
Speaker 3:No, I'm saying in my eyes, in the black community's eyes, I guess. In my eyes. Yes, he can do a lot wrong. I'm just saying that in this culture, in this climate today, he's like almost a cult figure man. You know what I mean. If he ran right, if he was able to run right now, he'd win again.
Speaker 2:Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 3:He'd win again. He'd win again. I think he's campaigning better than Kamala Harris. Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying, man. And then he talks the talk. He talks the stuff that Black people like that. He sounds like a modern day Martin Luther King man. He got that rhythm in his voice in the conversation and everything like that. I mean he sounds more like Malcolm when he's talking. You know what I?
Speaker 2:mean.
Speaker 3:I mean, I'm talking about the rhythm of his voice. I'm not saying what he's saying.
Speaker 1:I'm saying the rhythm of his voice.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the rhythm of his voice. It's actually probably something you know in the minds of all Black people, in the back of their mind, when you hear him you're like, oh snap, you know what I mean. I heard this before. It's like listening to Biggie Smalls or something like that. What was it? Juicy. You know what I mean. In the back of black people's mind, once they heard Biggie Smalls, they just the same way that went with Obama. When they hear him, they probably just hear the kind of the vibe of a Martin and a Malcolm.
Speaker 2:I'll be honest with you because they've been going hard in Detroit in terms of campaigning because it's an important state. But stuff like this might actually push Harris over the edge, man. Supposedly she was leading. I I think a lot of people saying those polls that the cnn and everybody's giving everybody is a little bit um, you know, I mean choppy in itself in terms of some say that she's losing, some say that it's 50 50, some say that you know one is winning, the other isn't. If it is that type of case, I think that these little things might push it over man. We only got about two weeks.
Speaker 3:Like you said, we don't care either way, I don't care either way, it's like months to me. I heard Mase say today which I said a long time ago, man, I was watching Cam and them sports show and they said you know the lesser of two evils. I don't accept it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you evil yourself If you vote for the lesser of two evils. You evil I don't accept it.
Speaker 3:I don't accept the choices man. You know what I mean. So again, she might win. Actually, I thought she was going to win. Actually I thought she was going to win. She had a real strong push after they flipped her and got Biden out of it. But now I don't know.
Speaker 2:I honestly thought that thing that happened last week might have kind of damaged it, because you need the black male vote For Obama to say what he has said and a lot of people take offense to it. I honestly thought that that might have been something that's jacked up. You know what I mean. So maybe this was his way of winning back that crowd. I don't know.
Speaker 3:And listen, man, and again this is what we come to. Let me tell you, I'm hoping that somebody when this, you know, I hope this election go over soon. I can't stand these dog on constant videos of Trump campaigning videos of Trump.
Speaker 2:It's overkill man. It's two things I want to see done quick. It's this election and Puffy's thing. I want to see those things over very, very quick.
Speaker 3:Let us see the man real charges and what he getting charged on. You know what I mean, Because I'm tired of hearing these are two things that have. It clouds my social media.
Speaker 2:I can't even get nothing on there. They ruin the news cycle. Nothing else is on the news cycle.
Speaker 3:Every day Puff comes out with a new victim. You know somebody's suing him or whatever like that. It's crazy.
Speaker 2:It's like we said when we talked to Tia also a couple weeks ago. Listen, you know, as podcasters, content creators, whatever, that's everybody's dream to be able to just go ahead and eat off this dude. But at the end of the day, it's like if I tell you somebody's opening up a school, no views, 16 in the hundreds. All I gotta do is put Diddy in a tag line and next thing, you know, it's like thousands of views over. You know just his name alone. Let's be honest, you know what I mean. So, yeah, it's good for us, but at the end of the day, you want to hear something with some, you know, with some content in it man Some good information, Especially with Black people.
Speaker 3:I mean we just had a major what hurricane?
Speaker 2:yeah, major hurricane, and the major news right now is fuck that, people die, a lot of people have died you don't see, like really like, what's going to be done about that, but it's just like it's a lot of news that's out there that nobody's talking about, you know they don't care about what's going on in the Middle East.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean in China.
Speaker 2:McDonald's poisoned several people just as of late, ruining their business. You know what I mean nobody cares about that major bombing in the Middle East.
Speaker 3:Nobody worry about this people want to know how many people. What new celebrity is in one of these videos and cares, man? Like they said a long, like we've been saying a long time ago, man, this ain't nothing different. The way he was on, the probably half the probably took it to a whole another level. You know, I mean during that time, man pedophilia and stuff was going on bill cosby.
Speaker 3:Bill cosby said it best. You know it was the time. You know what I mean. It was like you give a Quaalude. That's what everybody did back then.
Speaker 2:I tell everybody on.
Speaker 2:YouTube His name escapes me at the moment, but look at the man who started MGM Metro, goldwyn Mayer I believe his last name was Mayer and he is every bit of the Puff Daddy Suge Knight, clive Davis, probably the forerunner of everything that you see in the music and music industry right now the movie and music industry, pardon me. So it's like if you look at that documentary and see the things that he made your favorite starlets go through and your favorite leading men go through to get where they had to be, I just saw a video today with Willie D and Yo-Yo and.
Speaker 3:Yo-Yo said told Willie D on the show he's like you're in the industry. It's been going on. This is this is no. This is not.
Speaker 2:He's not the only one well, you've seen the abercrombie and fitch. Oh, in fact, I'm glad that we, we, we here. Uh, you didn't see about that like this.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna give you my story abercrombie and fitch. My son, well you know, son's mother bought some clothes there one time. I remember walking into abercrombie and fitch and there was a bunch of pictures in there of men all over each other and all kinds of other stuff like that.
Speaker 2:Young boys, it wasn't even men. Young boys.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they all got their shirts off and roughing each other up and all that other crazy stuff.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, man, yeah. So, like I said, when they're banging these guys on sex trafficking, they pretty much advertise to you what that was years ago, because every picture and I know what you're talking about you go in their store, every picture that hangs up. It's like an erotic art gallery of young boys in really weird positions with their shirts off.
Speaker 3:And I bought some Abercrombie Fitch stuff. But you know, when I used to buy it, I used to buy it. I probably I bought maybe out of other stores or something like that, or I don't know how I got it. But I don't never really remember of walking in the store. But the one time I actually walked into the store I was like what the heck is going on with this, this marketing here. Man, it's crazy. I mean, I haven't been there in years. This is a long time ago. I've been there but who knows, I don't know what the advertisement in there is now, but back then, it's pretty much the same.
Speaker 2:I've seen it on the news.
Speaker 3:It's disgusting man. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:They knew who they was marketing that towards when they was doing it. And even back then, before all this, like you said, we knew that was weird. Back then, like you said, we knew that was weird, you know. Back then they just said you know why does all these? In fact, I believe I was with you one time when we went there and we walked out.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and let me say shout out to Yo-Yo. Yo-yo said in my house I'm going to raise my son to play with trucks, my grandson to play with trucks. I ain't going to teach him to play with no dolls. Shout out to the yo you want to grow up and move out of my house and do whatever you want to do. At that point it's on you. But in here, this is what we do.
Speaker 2:As for me and mine, we're going to do this thing the right way.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean Shout out to her man. I was like you know she, you know I guess she from the conversation you got to see the video.
Speaker 2:Man, she looked like she fed up with this garbage man well, again it goes back to circle it back to what we said in the original um portion of this conversation. As you get older, you know I mean yo you'll probably like the parties and stuff like that back in the day. But when you get older and you're using terms like grandkids and you know you look at the world out of different lens. Man, it ain't none of that. You know, just go be young, wild and free. You better think about what you're doing before you do it.
Speaker 3:I'm going to raise some men who will protect this family. You know, god forbid if some of my family or the women in my family are being threatened. I want some men to come out of this house.
Speaker 3:You know, what I mean. I don't want no pink pants wearing dudes coming out and talking about they trying to protect us. You know what I mean. I want some men to come out of this house and then you know, vice versa, we want some ladies to come out of this house. You know, out of your lineage, man, you want to be able to go somewhere.
Speaker 2:Classy women.
Speaker 3:Classy women, man, you know what I mean and it's sad to say because, like the lady just said in herself, even these so-called elite ones. Now, you know what I mean, they're popping it. But then again, look at what's going on with the elite women Now, the so-called, these elite women that we hold in high regard. They out here in these clubs, some of these better actresses and women professionals and whatever that. They don't remember what? What did we have to show on when it was a the judge out there acting like a nut?
Speaker 3:oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah the female black judge out there acting like a nut. She was a judge crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know what you're talking about I mean this is where this is where we at man. So you know, and I hate to get down on our own, but cause every race is doing it yeah, but you know every race is doing it but we look at more for doing it we deteriorate man, the whole society.
Speaker 3:It's like sad to say, because I guess we look at women to be our more flagrant backbone of this earth man. And you know, I guess we look at women to be our moral fiber and backbone of this earth man. And, uh, you know so, go to women.
Speaker 3:You know pretty much, so go so go to men so go, everything else, you know I mean, but uh, you know, it's just like the moral fiber of it. You know I mean because the women raise children and you know most children you, where they develop right and wrong from, is their mom.
Speaker 2:Yeah, first teachers.
Speaker 3:You know, and if your mom is going to try Wednesdays?
Speaker 3:you know, what I mean. And you're 23 years old, you know she's dressing up crazy and wild. What exactly are you going to do? Yeah, man, you know what I mean. I'm seeing a video right now that's going viral with this little she dressing up crazy and wild. What exactly are you going to do? Yeah, man, I'm seeing a video right now that's going viral where this little Spanish girl is like talking to her mom, but she's dancing and she's dancing real sexual and it's one of the biggest videos, viral videos right now.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean and I'm like, and everybody you know. Even now I guess the family is like all right, well, we ate off of that video, let's go do some more. You know what I mean. And they're not really got any girl dancing like in all the videos, but this one particular video, this little girl is dancing provocative as a little girl and I'm like it's crazy. You allow that. Everybody in the comments is loving it. You would think a father would be like oh heck, no, you're not putting my baby out there dancing like.
Speaker 2:You know, like this on no camera was pops on it too I don't even know it was.
Speaker 3:It was me, I think it was men on the video. It was definitely, you know, women, grown women there, you know mean they just laughing at it. I was like, all right, yeah, man, one of the biggest, one of the most viral videos right now is that little girl dancing, you know, dancing, really sexual. And where would she learn that at an early age? She's like, look like she's about four or five years old, it's crazy.
Speaker 2:She's going and doing it in the schools and they judge her. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, you know, maybe we're getting too old man.
Speaker 2:Could be. I'm going to hit this one.
Speaker 3:Maybe we're getting too old. My people, my people, how long?
Speaker 1:Hmm, how long? Why do we do this to one another?
Speaker 2:Exactly. You're going to be hearing a lot of that during this show.
Speaker 1:All right, man, we're going to get ready to wrap up, but yeah, just thought we'd touch on those topics real quick man.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:And before we wrap up, man, just let people know, the young people know, man, nobody is, nobody acts holy in India. Man, your parents and most of your parents done probably did drugs done, did alcohol done, partied, done, did a lot of this wild stuff. And you know, when you put these kind of videos out, like you said, these kids get on here and put you know comments on it and try to tear it up with the whole. Yeah, you guys did that to her. But maybe that's why people tell you that, man, because they don't want you to make the same mistakes man.
Speaker 2:So that's really what it is Exactly. So you're trying to raise pieces of better, pieces of us.
Speaker 1:You know what?
Speaker 2:I mean, that's what it is. Alright, charles, we're going to wrap this one up, but just a quick little common sense conversation. So, like I said, you listen to it, you let us know what you think, put it in the comments, pass it on to your friends. Man, reach out, whatever it takes. We just want to get the conversation started.
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