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Breaking Down Spike Lee’s Latest Film, X-Men’s Racial Allegories, & Trump’s Attack on Black Communities
In this episode, we break down Spike Lee’s latest film, uncover the racial allegories woven into Marvel’s X-Men, and expose how Trump’s militarization of Black communities ties into the systemic racism driving violence.
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Speaker 2:Give me a moment with your friend. I've never been up to enough for my thoughts before. Welcome to the Only One Mic Podcast. I'm Rob. Brooklyn Dre. J-rob is in the building. Roger. Rob Brooklyn Dre J-Rob is in the building. Back in the studio together, guys. How y'all feeling Out?
Speaker 3:out out Great.
Speaker 2:Good to be back together, brothers. Hey, listen, we got a few things we want to discuss, but first you know what I mean we haven't been able to kind of sit down and talk to you, the audience, together, Like we all have our conversations offline, man, but we haven't been able to speak to y'all. And I want to start this off like this y'all I don't know how many of y'all seen this or watched it at all, but the Denzel movie man, the highest to this or watched it at all, but the Denzel movie man Highest to Lowest Jammy came out on Apple TV.
Speaker 2:I told you man yeah, you did, I told you Don't waste your time, man. I told you.
Speaker 1:Let me ask you a question being New Yorkers, man.
Speaker 2:Very New York-centric movie. Hold on, I'm going to stop you right there. I will give Spike this. Spike made a very New York-centric movie. However, it's a Spike.
Speaker 3:They all New York-centric man.
Speaker 2:They all New York-centric, but it's just. I know y'all didn't get a chance to watch it. I know you said Dre, you not watching.
Speaker 3:I told you not to do it you told me not to do it.
Speaker 2:You sure did, man. I said, all right, well, look, it was all. I didn't pay to see it when it was in the movie theater. I at home, and I did, and I'm still processing it. Folks, I'm like somewhere down the line there was a missing piece in that movie.
Speaker 3:It's always. Yeah, I'm like it was, it's always.
Speaker 2:And then it was like it turned into a spike flick. It got a little bit too artsy. You know what I mean, but go ahead.
Speaker 3:What was you saying, Dre? I don't like Spike and I don't like Tarantino man, I don't like none of these films.
Speaker 1:Oh, man you violated right there. Tarantino was amazing.
Speaker 3:I don't like.
Speaker 1:A$AP Rocky. I don't like A$AP Rocky.
Speaker 2:I gotta say this I'm gonna go back to your point, jay Tarantino flicks man. Tarantino got a sick vision man. Tarantino flicks man. Tarantino got a sick vision man. I gotta be honest with you. I've seen some movies where this dude's mind is in left field somewhere, man.
Speaker 3:I don't like any movie where people are making extra sounds like cartoons and all kind of goofy garbage. I just like my movies to be a movie man I don't want to. Are y'all brothers trying to tell me y'all never watched Kill Bill?
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no, no. I said sorry.
Speaker 3:I do like. I did, like you know, to be honest with you, kill Bill, it really wasn't about the whole movie, it was about the fight scenes, if you like. Just like a good fight scene.
Speaker 1:That's what it is, it's like more like an homage the way that he tells the story.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's an homage to the old Karate Flicks, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean I just finished watching the Karate Flick. You know what I mean. Before we got on here, I was watching 36 Chambers or something like that man. The crazy thing about it is I don't think this is crazy. I never saw 36 Chambers.
Speaker 2:No Wow.
Speaker 3:Never saw it, man. I mean, don't try to play me, no, no no. Golden Arms Five Deli Venoms.
Speaker 1:Yeah, hold up, hold up. Y'all know about Super Ninja.
Speaker 3:Never seen Super Ninja, oh you ain't seen that.
Speaker 1:That was the one with the elements. It was the elements, they was in the trees, they they was jumping out the water and all that. Oh, you ain't never seen that one.
Speaker 3:I seen the Flying Guillotine joint like that man. That was my joint, the Flying Guillotine.
Speaker 2:You talking about the Flying Dally huh?
Speaker 3:Is this more like an updated joint?
Speaker 1:Nah, Super Ninja was back in the day. I got to pull it out. That was our favorite joint. That's the one we always bought.
Speaker 2:Man, that joint is hot, you know I'll go with the.
Speaker 3:I told you not to do it. I did it and I said listen, I haven't seen a good Spike Lee movie since Malcolm X and even in Malcolm X, even in Malcolm X and they're going to be crazy because we went to. That's how I'm going to show you how old Malcolm X is.
Speaker 2:We went there with 38. Yeah, I was blown by the fact that they had an interlude in the movie man. I was like that was crazy, the first time I've experienced that in a movie.
Speaker 3:Yeah, man, we went there, the whole block with us, to see Malcolm X man and even we was talking about this the other day, man before you went to see it, before you went to see it, I told him. I said, listen, man, in every Spike Lee movie, even some of the good ones, there's always something missing out of it that you would be like this would be a great film if or you don't know what is missing, but it's always missing something. What's the movie we talked about the other day, inside man? I was like yo, but it's always missing something. What's the movie we talked about the other day, Inside man? I was like yo, this is a good. There's a good something around. This is good. The whole. You know Banks taking advantage of, you know the Holocaust. It was great. And then I was like somewhere in there, the ball was dropped.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:I didn't even know.
Speaker 3:Spike did that one. Yeah, it's hot man, the joint he did with Ed Norton. Yeah, the 25th Hour 25th Hour, man, but it was. I liked the movie, but it was something in the movie that I'm like, man, this could you know that little thing that you're like? Oh wow, this is it. You walk out feeling like you. You got your money's worth.
Speaker 2:I'm a keeper of the bandwagon. I told you the other day I was done with Spike after Red Hook Summer. I was done. I knew I wasn't doing that, yeah, I was done with Spike after.
Speaker 3:Red Hook Summer. I never even heard of it. Yeah, I knew I wasn't doing that Do yourself a favor, folks.
Speaker 2:If you out there and you didn't watch this movie, don't, don't.
Speaker 3:Just do yourself a favor. Clockers. The only well, it's not Clockers, it's Crooklyn. You probably don't like Crooklyn. The only reason you like Crooklyn is if he was born and raised in Brooklyn, or probably Philly or you know, because you got that kind of connection to it.
Speaker 1:I actually do like Crooklyn. Yeah, I like Crooklyn. Crooklyn can take you back to the summers. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's the only reason we like it.
Speaker 2:Clockers I didn't like when I was, when I was young, I didn't like clockers, but as I got older I kind of understood.
Speaker 1:My journal was fresh, but let's stop it right here.
Speaker 2:Top 5 Spike movies. What do you think is the best Spike movies?
Speaker 3:I don't think you got 5.
Speaker 1:If you got 5.
Speaker 3:I think you got 5. I like Mo' Better Blues.
Speaker 2:I like Jungle Feud Malcolm's number 1 on all the lists.
Speaker 1:Do the right thing. I like more better blues, more better All right, I like Jungle Field Malcolm.
Speaker 3:Malcolm's number one on all the lists.
Speaker 2:Do the right thing Do the right thing.
Speaker 3:I'm going to tell you what's funny about that. I liked it as a kid. As I look back now, I can't even watch it. Man, Can you watch? Do the Right Thing now.
Speaker 1:Did it hold up anything? I ain't tried, but I'm sure I could check it out just for Rosie Perez yeah and not to mention it was quotable.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. You got a lot of quotes so we got what Malcolm X do the right thing. What am I missing again?
Speaker 3:Jungle Fever.
Speaker 1:Moe Better so you got four, you got four. She's got to have school days for me.
Speaker 2:So you got four, you got four.
Speaker 3:She's got to have those tracks, oh School Days School.
Speaker 1:Days, school Days is all right.
Speaker 3:I can't watch it in college man, I can't watch it now, but I liked it when it was out.
Speaker 1:I can watch School Days now. That's one of those movies that I damn near know every line. School Days, you know? Yeah, I can watch School Days now. That's one of those movies that I damn didn't know every line.
Speaker 2:School Days that's maybe why I can't watch it.
Speaker 3:I loved it when it first came out. Like you said, man, I think School Days and what's the name of it? Bill Cosby and all that, his little thing all of the movies was like a collective man, all of them pieces of art. Man kind of got people wanting to go to college and stuff like that what I took out of school days was the whole Greek thing.
Speaker 2:Man, I'm like shaving people's heads and making them eat dog food and all that stuff you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:It is college life, though man.
Speaker 2:I knew what I didn't want to do, you know.
Speaker 3:Girl 6 was trash. Get on the Bus was trash uh. I never even seen Summer of 5am. I don't know what that. Oh, that's the Summer of Sam joint, ain't it?
Speaker 2:yeah, and I don't even remember that I. Yeah, I remember him doing one, but I didn't watch it.
Speaker 1:I ain't never watched Summer of Sam either. No.
Speaker 3:I think it's the summer. Yeah, well, he had a. I guess it's. He had Summer. Yeah, summer of Sam. That's the movie I said I'm looking at it. That's the summer of 5 am. Summer of Sam.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Summer of.
Speaker 3:Sam, I seen the movie it was good, ah, man, it wasn't that man. I mean some of these stuff I ain't even seen she hates me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I think I saw that it was stupid I hate.
Speaker 3:I thought um when one another movie that I thought it was had some good concept behind it but just didn't match up.
Speaker 2:Miracle saint, santa, miracle at saint, yeah, yeah, yeah, I forgot all about that.
Speaker 1:I forgot all about that I forgot all about that. I don't even know that one.
Speaker 3:I know she's got to have it, I like that I was watching Paul Mooney one time man when he was talking about the Miracle Santa Anna and he was saying how they flew over somebody's house in Italy and somehow the black person. It was a romance story where oh, no, that was right. Tells me oh, it was exactly what he's talking about.
Speaker 2:He all the way up in the plane and somehow the Italian lady and him lock eyes from the plane. That's it. I mean, I wasn't a Spike flick, was it? Red Tails? No, no, no that was somebody else.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he influenced whoever did it. You know what?
Speaker 2:I mean, I can tell that was horrible man.
Speaker 3:I didn't like Black Klansman.
Speaker 1:Oh, come on, Come on man, Come on you too. I'm talking about Black Klansman.
Speaker 2:Let me tell you something, man. I read the book on that man the story that's. That is a wild story change that.
Speaker 3:I didn't my fault. I didn't see black claim. You know what I was thinking about the book and the movie. Two different things, though I was thinking about what's the the movie that they just came out with? Was it Fred Hampton they did it on, or something like that?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it was Fred Hampton, but that's not the name of the movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Spike didn't do that.
Speaker 3:No, but I was saying for some reason I was thinking it was the same film man. But no, that's not it man. Black Klansman was about the cop that you know, infiltrated the IJ. And the Five Bloods. I watched that too, man, but I was like it was really weird. I thought it was decent.
Speaker 2:Oh, and, thank you, that's the word I'm looking for. Spike gets weird. Like some of the scenes get a little weird. Man, it's like a lot of stuff was unnecessary In this particular movie. They got a I mean, y'all probably ain't gonna watch it anyway, but they got a a part where, um, he goes to see asap rocky in jail after everything took place or whatever, and it's like a whole almost a video before they even sit down and have the conversation. I don't. I like it was like something that was totally unnecessary. I mean, and he got a chick shaking it behind the whole group and I'm like all this is leading up to a conversation. It's like a part of it was like a fantasy part, and then it's the actual conversation. I'm like that was totally unnecessary.
Speaker 3:See, people forget man what, denzel from what Mount Vernon and Spike from Brooklyn. They lined y'all up, man. They lined y'all up, man. They lined everybody up, man. It was a hustle. You know what I mean. It was a quick lick. They probably found somebody that you know was going to back them with a movie. They probably pocketed half and put out some trash, or something like that, I think.
Speaker 2:A$AP Rocky, kind of you know, overplayed towards the end. Ice Spice they like saying like she's in the movie. She was in the movie for like two seconds.
Speaker 3:She wasn't even in the joint. I know it was going to be bad when RA Day was involved.
Speaker 2:She was in there literally for like a minute and that was it.
Speaker 1:I'm definitely not watching. As soon as you said Ice Spice, the little bit of, I'm like I'm going to check it out. Nah, I'm cool.
Speaker 2:Definitely was only in man. So yeah, I gotta start taking more advice.
Speaker 3:Man, I don't play around with my movies, man. If I decide that I'm gonna put some time into it, man, it gotta be a good thing. I don't go to the movies unless it's Marvel.
Speaker 2:Now, man, if it ain't Marvel, I don't go to the movies and I'm glad because this is a good transition man, because we had a very good conversation the other day about the complexities of the X-Men. This brother gave a very detailed, good conversation the other day about the complexities of the X-Men. This brother gave a very detailed breakdown after re-watching some of these X-Men movies in correlation to what's going on today in terms of racism and everything. Would you care to break this down, sir, for?
Speaker 1:our general audience.
Speaker 2:If I didn't waste my time with this movie this morning, I definitely would have went back and watched First Class again, man. Hilarious Watch First Class man Hold on, Jay, you got to listen to this.
Speaker 3:You're going to jump in this.
Speaker 2:Go ahead.
Speaker 1:I'm already on it. I'm already there. I'm just glad you finally hopped on board the train.
Speaker 2:So Dre for the general audience.
Speaker 3:No, I'm saying, that wasn't that deep man.
Speaker 2:No, it was deep to me, but go ahead.
Speaker 3:But if you watch I mean all the X-Men movies, if you go back and watch them all I was watching first class man. All this is about black people, man. It's all about black people. It's about how the mutants are powerful and the government Caucasian people are scared because they're scared that they're going to overpower them. Not that I believe that black people are not superhuman, but I'm saying that that's how. Wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 1:Historically. That's the reason why they use that lady's jeans because black people are superhuman, so go ahead.
Speaker 3:Yeah. I mean when you break it when you break down the whole movie, man and look at it, you'll be like man, like wow, beast was like a politician. You know what I mean. And you know you got Professor X and Magneto. That's like Malcolm and Martin man. You know they both got the same mindset.
Speaker 1:But Magneto One is revolutionary and one is peace. Magneto One wants to integrate, the other one wants to separate.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's mad deep man when you go through the whole process and even when you even see, like, the whole situation with Magneto and what's the chick name? Storm, Not Storm. The other one.
Speaker 2:Jean.
Speaker 3:The villain, bro man. No, the blue, the chick that turned blue.
Speaker 1:Oh, mystique, yeah, Mystique, the shapeshifter yeah.
Speaker 3:Remember, remember. What's the whole thing about Mystique? She don't like herself, mm-hmm, because of her blue skin and everything like that.
Speaker 1:She hates that dark, deep blue skin Right right right right, right right right.
Speaker 3:So the whole point, remember, when she was laying in his bed and she had made herself into a beautiful white woman or whatever like that. And he was like I don't even want you like that, I want you like how you are. So I think she changed want you like that, I want you like how you are. So she changed. I think she changed it to another chick and he was like nah, I want you like how you are. And she turned back into her being a blue and he was like yo, you're beautiful, just the way you are, something like that. And he just left in the bedroom.
Speaker 3:I was like hard, even if you're going to the joint where, as, um, what's the chick? Uh, rogue, she couldn't touch her boyfriend, you know, I mean because he was. He was gonna kill her. So she wanted to change herself. She wanted to go get the um, the vaccine, you know I mean to to lose her power so she could be with him or whatever case may be. But the other white broad, she was able to he, she saw them having a good time together. Whatever the case may be, I think it had, you know, like had little undertones of black women and all kind of other stuff, like that man I was like yo man, when you watch that joint over again, you're gonna be like yo this joint is crazy man.
Speaker 1:And I take it a little deeper with Mystique. Mystique she has the ability to, so basically she can. It's her mindset. You know what I'm saying she can be anything she want. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but she thinks that her natural self is not good enough right, right, right.
Speaker 3:I'm telling you, man, I was sitting there watching and the joint with Beast is a politician, right, and he's thinking he's a part of the government and all this other stuff like that. And when he came up with this, he's thinking he's a part of the government and all this other stuff like that. And when they came up with this so-called vaccine to cure the mutants or whatever like that, he walks up in the joint.
Speaker 2:He was like yo I wasn't even in this meeting to even discuss it.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean. And there's a portion where when they put the vaccine together, he kind of left the government. He was like yo listen, I need to go be with my people. You know what I mean. You know what I mean. They all trying to piece it up.
Speaker 2:I'm telling you, man it kind of reminds me.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying. But you know, a lot of these movies is like that they got undertones of stuff pertaining to us. What's the name? Planet of the Apes. So when you watch, when you watch this movie again, man, you be thinking I would love to. I don't know if they ever spoke on it, but somebody asked the people that created it like where did y'all get this from?
Speaker 2:Planet of the Apes or the X-Men both.
Speaker 3:They just stole, they stole, they stole the whole joint in there. If you watch the whole X-Men First Class.
Speaker 2:I mean all of them. What's the?
Speaker 3:60s. Yeah, you watch the.
Speaker 1:X-Men First Class. I know the story of the Jedi is a stolen story.
Speaker 3:But that's about the Bible.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all right, you got to go into that one man. You said you're my Star Wars.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you want me to, I'm not a.
Speaker 2:I'm not a star wars fan man, so so I.
Speaker 3:I already stole this. I already stole the story from a black, a black chick or something like that. I could be wrong not star wars. That was the matrix and terminated but I think it was a black. I think it was a sister or a brother that had something to do with allegedly.
Speaker 2:I don't know if she wrote it or not, but they said the Matrix and the Terminator was from a black woman. I've seen a few interviews with her.
Speaker 3:Well, you know, documentary I was watching, man was saying it was about um. They were saying it was about the Bible. Like you know, luke is Jesus Christ. You know, I'm just saying that, based off of what they're saying, it's the Darth Vader's, the devil, the force is supposed to be the holy spirit, holy spirit, all kinds of stuff yeah, man, yeah, when you think about it it's good and evil forces.
Speaker 3:You know, I mean it's the dark side, it's the light side. You know, I mean all the other stuff like that. Man, that was my one of the things that, um, I heard about when I heard it. Man, not that I, you know, obviously I don't agree with none of it, but I'm just saying that's how you know. Somebody came up with the basic underlying undertones of the story. But, jay, you said you heard another portion of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm trying to find it so I can give it to you exactly and not be misrepresenting.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but why you do that? I was telling him too, man, if you watch the X-Men 97 joint, the cartoon, which is like more for adults, that was crazy too, because the mutants did have their own island and the government bombed it, yeah yeah, killed everybody on it. It's Black Wall Street. Yeah, it was wild out. We're moved. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:It's another move program. He said the Mood Program. Hey, all my Philly brothers got a certain love for the Mood Program.
Speaker 2:I saw the documentary.
Speaker 3:I never was there, but I saw the documentary of the Mood Program I said, yeah them brothers was crazy.
Speaker 2:And I'm going to tell you what, jay, I know you're looking for the joint man, but also kind of leads me into this next thing about these, these takeovers, man, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:Well that stuff is happening in DC and Baltimore said no, we're not, we're not going for that, With Trump sending in those troops and ICE agents and all that jazz like that to kind of police the city and my lady actually works in DC now, ok, ok and um.
Speaker 1:My lady actually works in dc now, okay, okay and uh. When she get off the train she say the national guard being there with the desert camo on, there's a camera, weapons and they be all in um, whatever that train station name is oh yeah, it was a.
Speaker 2:Uh, it's a union union station or something like that something like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know it's crazy if it was anybody and I'm not saying I'm not for no policing everybody like that at all anyway, but I just don't trust trump well, I say all that to say this because, if y'all don't remember, some time ago we had this conversation way back on one of the shows and I I told y'all this. I was like one thing he gonna do. In fact, I asked y'all I said, do you think he would ever deem gangs as terrorist organizations? You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Y'all said no.
Speaker 2:And I was like yo, I don't know, you know what I mean, because all it takes is the right little thing, which he, you know, is looking at it like that and which he, you know, is looking at it like that. And not to mention, would they ever send the military to police, to people? Because at the time I think we were talking about Philly Jay and we were saying like if they keep acting up, they're going to send a National Guard and them out there.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean, but I mean not to say that they sent them to Philly. They didn't do that, but I'm just saying yeah, Philly will be like what's going to happen in Chicago? They come over there in Chicago. Chicago's going to go crazy, it's going to go left, yeah, Well.
Speaker 2:I'm going to tell you something interesting. It was a Hispanic politician.
Speaker 3:Let me say this before you get there man We've been in from New York Brooklyn is Brooklyn. You know the boroughs is all different man Philly and Detroit and Chicago. Detroit and Philly is the most militant spot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that kind of leads me to my next thing, man, because they were saying, like, in regards to Chicago, there's a Hispanic politician his name escaped me at this time I'm listening on Democracy Now and he was talking about sending those troops over there to chicago. Um, the I think the mexican pride parade was coming up or is coming up, and he was saying that he think that's where that's going to be a problem, because trump at the time is saying we're going to send them, but he's not telling the general public when he's going to deploy them. But I think they're like North Carolina getting ready or something like that. Or Texas, the Texas, one Texas National Guard, and so they're basically running tests.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and he said that.
Speaker 3:See where they can get it done at.
Speaker 2:He said that and he was like that he's going to send them over, but he's not going to tell you when the politician is saying or congressperson is saying like, well, they're going to send them more than likely during that. You know, during that Mexican pride parade. If you send ICE out there during that time, he said that's going to be a problem. You know what I mean, because some people are going to fight back. He said what it is.
Speaker 3:it will give him carte blanche to let the National Guard do whatever they got to do to police the people, to police, the people, because it's almost like he's picking at us in order to create us, you know, to get us in a, to get us in a war, you know, like some sort of physical confrontation or something like that.
Speaker 3:It seemed like they're just picking at a scab that you know. It seemed like a lot of people are somewhat being wise and kind of like not trying to overlook it. But it's like that scab, you're going to keep picking that until people just be like all right, it's on.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's what happened. That's what happened, but that's the big concern. So it was like now I think Baltimore is the next one up and the mayor was like nah we not? Doing that Listen listen, we not doing that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Listen, listen, that's another place. Let me tell you something about.
Speaker 3:Baltimore. Right, I remember me and you was talking about this a long time ago and remember people, cops, were getting killed all over the place or whatever like that. And one time we had a conversation I said, man, because this is me after going to visit our family in Baltimore. Yeah, I said yo, a cop ever kill somebody, or something like that happen in Baltimore. They're going to lose it. That is a wild. You know what the tough part about Baltimore is? They just wild, it ain't. No. You know, like Philly is militant. You know even Brooklyn and New York has like some sort of undertones or some sort of, you know, militancy or whatever. Baltimore is just a free-for-all. It's a mental free-for-all. You know what I mean. Like you can get shot down there for nothing. You know what I mean Anywhere pretty much, but Baltimore is crazy.
Speaker 1:Supposedly, historically, baltimore and that area was one of those places where they were using they were having slaves like rape each other, so that type of psychosis is what's in the people down there and that's the reason why they're so apt to be addicted to substances and things.
Speaker 3:Yeah, baltimore, it's kind of funny you said that man because I remember you know going down there years ago man, it's about 10, 15 years ago man, and I was so surprised about how heavy they was on heroin. Still, we from the East Coast man, we've been in every hood possible West Coast and East Coast and you didn't see heroin like that man Back about 10, 15 years ago. It was crack and whatever else. But Baltimore has always the city, always been selling smack, even the show the Wire.
Speaker 1:What's the other show?
Speaker 2:they did about drugs. I'm going to cut you off, Jay. Was it the Corner or something?
Speaker 1:like that.
Speaker 3:The Corner, the Corner, yeah, the Corner is like crack city. Yeah, it's crazy, and even the crazy thing about bringing up Baltimore, man, and going back to Trump's situation. Man, I remember watching a documentary with what was the dude that they made the white after Melvin something or whatever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Melvin tells a story about how in the 60s that I guess what president that they put in at the time he was so heavy on crime that he had brought down crime and it got to a point where people couldn't hustle no more. So violent crime went up you know what I mean. And he was saying that it got so bad that he said obviously he never seen the person but he was invited to a meeting with mob bosses at the time. He said he was the only black person there and he says that at that meeting they told him that the president of the United States told him to put them drugs back out on the street. He said put it back out on the street because they would prefer people hustling than violent crime. Because when dudes can't get money in the street it's back to busting people in the head or snatching purses and everything like that. And that's what you know. So I'm thinking the same thing will happen again right now with this whole National Guard thing, man, because again that's what's going to happen.
Speaker 3:It's kind of like something that we don't like to say and I don't agree with nobody selling drugs or anything like that but it's kind of like a something that we don't pay attention to, which is is the real deal is that all of this stuff is like a food chain. You know I mean you gotta the drugs have to be sold because they got to keep the legal system up. You know I mean, people won't have to get money because they got to keep the legal system up. You know what I mean. People will have to get money somewhere in the street because if they don't get money in the street, man, then it's back to busting you upside your head or something like that man, so it all feeds each other. It's like an evil food chain that just goes on in the black community, man. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I also believe that that's the way that they actually are able to control the people.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's the fact.
Speaker 1:You keep the drugs in there, they won't be able to aspire, are going to fall victim to needing whatever is in that community whether it be the drugs, whether it be the guns something in order to protect themselves, or they're going to get arrested.
Speaker 3:Well, look at it now. All of these kids on weed and stuff like that man, Most of these kids are like they're lethargic. You know what I mean. They might even be working or something like that, but it's like they're on a hamster wheel.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. I'm going to be honest, bro. That's not weed.
Speaker 3:Well, no, no, I agree with you. What they're smoking is definitely more than what was given out back in the day.
Speaker 1:Being in the bars and the clubs and stuff doing the security. I see chicks doing ketamine.
Speaker 3:Oh, on the pills and all that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I see chicks doing ketamine. Oh, on the pills and all that. Yeah, they actually have lollipops called K-Pops and I'm like what the hell is that they try it? I'm like, no, what is it? And it's a drug. It's called ketamine.
Speaker 2:Oh man.
Speaker 1:It makes you feel drunk without drinking. That's insane.
Speaker 3:Yeah they want a lot of different pills and weird stuff too, but I think what I'm saying is like I'm just looking at it from the perspective of weed is so accepting. Now, like you know you, you have work and you come into work high. You know what I mean. You can smell weed on this person while you're at work. You know what I mean. Like it was like a time with us you know you were, you know I never was a weed person or anything like that but it was a time for us when we was coming up, even when we were back and working at the bank somebody walking to the job and they're smelling like marijuana. You be like yo man. Go take that, yeah, yeah, yeah. Go spray some cologne on or something. You smell wild right now. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Now they just almost like they trying to show you how good the pack is or something I was in my car a couple weeks ago and I smelled the white guy and I'm like damn this nigga just sitting in the waiting room like this.
Speaker 2:Why me say nothing? You ever go to a Dollar General. These days, the whole thing smells like meat.
Speaker 3:If you anywhere in you know like that Dollar General Walmart.
Speaker 2:Oh, Walmart's the worst in all situations. It's a whole situation.
Speaker 3:McDonald's, burger King, whatever, once these kids come out, you'd be like man, like you just stoned.
Speaker 2:But you know what, though, man, this makes an interesting point, and why I show, while I got y'all, man, because I putting these people out in the street and whatever, and they're doing what they're doing, even though they claim like crime. And you know like, statistically, crime in DC is down, which I think, like I said, that was the beta test. So crime in DC is down, chicago is Chicago. You know what I mean. They're still letting it go out there. You know Philly, new York, things of that nature.
Speaker 3:Let me just say this before you say that man. I haven't been following the DC thing, but I remember watching the news where they were saying crime in DC was down already.
Speaker 2:They were saying they didn't know why he implemented this Because there was a test and it's easy to go ahead and, you know, knock out a few tomato cans before you get to the main event, not to mention legally, he's able to do that in DC because it's a federal jurisdiction, yeah, federal jurisdiction.
Speaker 2:So what happens is that when you see the footage of a lot of young people I ain't going to say black folks, whatever, but a lot of young people out there and they playing tag, with them guns, as you say, jay, you know what I mean and they just recklessly just letting it go in the street, staying in that nation and all these different respective cities. Do you think this is kind of like a self-inflicted thing, man, like we kind of brought this on ourself?
Speaker 1:It can never be self-inflicted.
Speaker 2:All right, do tell brother how so.
Speaker 1:Because, in essence, nobody wants to do crime. Crime is a byproduct of not having. If the people in our community had the opportunities and the resources, there's no reason for it. Crime comes because people don't have, and they don't have options.
Speaker 3:I believe what you're saying is 90% correct. I mean, it's 10% of people that just be like they're just doing stuff, just to do it.
Speaker 1:But that's also a byproduct of the laws and the way they build our communities. Like you, really don't have a choice. I remember growing up, man, and being in like middle and high school and have to catch public transportation to school, and it was like you never know how that day was going to go. You know what I'm saying. Whether it be on the bus, train or even walking down the street, you may encounter a group of individuals that want what you got, and that's so real.
Speaker 3:That's all the time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Whether it's sneakers, whether it's a chain, you know what I'm saying. I remember having a chain and my coach was like you know, tuck your chain. I'm not tucking my chain. And it's so dumb because if I was having that conversation with my child, I would tell him to tuck your chain. But me, my thing is, I'm going to have, I'm on the air, what's up. But now it was so stupid, the mentality of that was so stupid. But that's the young boys type stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I mean like to speak on that man. It's like when you watch this footage and when you see this different stuff, you always be thinking to yourself like what beef is that deep for me to jump on somebody's porch that I don't know and just start firing across the street at somebody I don't know and just start firing across the street at somebody. You know what I mean, and in the process they hit innocent people. In that process, you know, and that's what I was kind of getting at. It's like I get everything you're saying I think it's a choice and then it's not a choice. You know what I mean. I think it's a choice and it's not a choice.
Speaker 3:I get what you're saying, man. It's all a reflection of systemic racism. Yeah, it's all a reflection of it. Yeah, I completely.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:It's the mirror of systemic racism.
Speaker 1:Now the byproduct of what's happening with the younger generation, now what they call these YNs. At least in our day when there was beefing situations, people was beefing over money, for the most part, for the most part, it was some money. These guys out here are just running around for a wreck. They're just wreck chasing. Now that is insane.
Speaker 2:That's what I mean. That's what I mean Like how much of it is a choice. You know what I mean. That's what I mean Like how much of it is a choice. You know what I mean In this generation.
Speaker 3:You know, like when you have people that you know but, like you said, I think it's even if it's not about money, it's the systemic racism portion of it, because what are they being fed? I mean, you have, like we always say, man, you just got an evil diet, man of music. An evil diet of, you know, movies, an evil diet of video games. You know, just a constant.
Speaker 1:I always thought Call of Duty was weird.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you know all of them video games, where it's like it desensitizes you to, it makes death and funny murder. I mean death and murder funny because it's like even now, when you watch these kids, right, you know you'd be scrolling through Facebook and somebody posts up like some sort of violent, you know fight or something like that, or somebody getting stabbed or shot, and you know and you watch these kids, they're videotaping it why it's going on in real time. You'd be thinking to yourself like if you see this old lady getting beat up, like why didn't you step in there or do something? Or I've watched them antagonize situations between people in order to order these people to fight and make a fool out of themselves.
Speaker 3:And sometimes, you know, even, like I said, like you said, in our generation, you know we would be like, listen, man, you go over here. You know what I mean Just separate, especially if we was friends and you know we was cool. You know what I mean and we definitely didn't let no females and you know old people get violated in our presence. You know what I mean Somebody, it would be something that click inside people's heads, be like, nah, we can't do this, you know, because we had friends that would do stuff like this, but then you had to check them. You know, I mean like no, you can't do this, I'm not letting you go that far with this or whatever, like that so yeah, like you can't, you can't be smacking on that that shit, like that, no, you can't do that yeah, yeah, not in my presence.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it didn't happen. But uh, like you said, man, that systemic racism, racism thing is uh horrible. It's terrible night. Take all of this, the evil stuff that they're consuming mentally, and add that with the drugs, it makes them defensive.
Speaker 1:And the diet.
Speaker 3:Diet, yeah, the diet, and everything like that too, man, you're right Everything that comes with it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that's what I look at, man, because what happens is that you got to listen to all the different news and how it's being presented, because everybody has their agenda. So if you listen to something like different news and how that's being presented, because everybody have the agenda, so, like, if you listen to something like fox news and they're saying like it's justifiable for him to put people in there because, of course, they're going to focus on the worst crimes that's happening, which everybody know, these, these people are being deployed in black and brown communities. They're not in, like you know, I mean downtown chicago, where they're making money and people living good, and they tell you that. They'll tell you that on Fox, like yo, like this is going towards the black community. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:What I hate about that is they continuously and I wonder if this is like planted they seem like all of these news outlets they go get the blackest of the black person and say, oh, this is wonderful, you know, this is wonderful that they're out here doing this. You know, I feel like I can eat out on the street free. You know what?
Speaker 3:I mean Like all kinds of stupid garbage man Conservatives, yeah, but you know, and again I like the fact that people, can you know, chill on their porch and all that other stuff. Like you know what my problem is, I'm scared of this government. The same government that can do that can also tell you you can go in your house. You got to go in your house at 8 o'clock at night.
Speaker 2:And that's the thing. You know that's coming next. You know it's coming next.
Speaker 1:And this is the thing for me right, and this is why I don't People be saying, oh, we need to turn our back on our brown brothers and sisters. I hate that man. If they get this off we're next.
Speaker 2:Oh, you're already in the mix. You're already in the mix. You know what I?
Speaker 3:mean yeah, man, I hate you know, because every time and this is something that bugs me all together, man, and this is the ignorance within our own community, man, whereas when we see I hate to see this when you know, now they're talking about the what is it? The migrant workers and stuff like that in New York, and oh, they're getting all of these billions of dollars and we're not getting this and we're not getting that. Listen, man, you ain't getting it anyway. If they took the money from the migrant workers or whatever like that, they ain't putting it back in the black community. They're not. So when you get on here and make statements, if I'm brown brother, whatever the case may be, a lot of times the things that brothers say on these cameras, sisters say on these cameras, it comes off as being racist man towards brown brothers. Man, that's what I get out of it. You know what I mean. They ain't giving you the money, it's not coming to you. Yeah, we have to start understanding, man.
Speaker 1:Go ahead. No, what I was going to say is they're taking the focus away from the enemy and pointing it towards other people that's being marginalized, and saying that they're your enemy.
Speaker 3:Hold on, man, going back to the Marvel thing, man that's the Wakanda joint, that's the Wakanda joint man you know what I mean. They got the brothers fighting against the Hispanics man.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:The whole Wakanda joint man. You know what I mean. And then remember the Hispanic brother was like yo listen, man, we can take them all out together. I'm not saying I definitely want to kill the white people, I'm just saying that these are the undertones.
Speaker 1:Come on home, brother. Come on home. I got a bow tie for you. Come on home.
Speaker 2:You were saying about the X-Men joint? That's what he said. They want to frighten each other Mutant and proud.
Speaker 3:Remember she said that joint in the joint, she was like mutant and proud. Remember she said that joint in the joint, she was like mutant and proud. You know what I mean. Remember when the chick got shot in the truck and they hit her with the tranquilizer or whatever the so-called cure or whatever the case may be. They shot her and her blue skin turned back. Magneto just left her on the ground and walked off. He was like man. She was beautiful.
Speaker 1:It's just like these sisters bleaching. You know what I mean and it's real prevalent over there in Africa. It's like these sisters was beautiful.
Speaker 2:Yo, like, if you see, see them African sisters that do that bleaching man. It don't even look right like after the whole process is complete. It don't match their features. You know what I mean? Yeah that that. That what was homeboy name? Was it? Sammy Sosa did that? Oh yeah yeah, sammy look crazy man Sammy, look crazy Sammy. Look like a parent to bed man, he look crazy.
Speaker 3:I sammy looks like that when they finish with that. Sam, you look like a parent to bed. Man, you look crazy.
Speaker 2:Why would you do that, man?
Speaker 1:you know, I mean that's that, that's that hate, that hate of yourself yeah, that melon is supposed to match the feature of your face.
Speaker 3:I'm telling you, man, one of these days you gotta sit on here and watch, watch this movie broken up. Man. When the it Roe came in the room Because, remember, they had watched the news break, and the news break said they got a cure for the mutants or whatever, like that or whatever and she walked in the room with Storm and Professor X, she was like is it true, they got a cure for us? Storm looked at her. What you mean? They got a cure. Ain't nothing wrong with us? Nothing wrong with us. They ain't got no cure for us.
Speaker 3:I got to applaud. That Ain't nothing wrong with us.
Speaker 1:I'm about to start sending Drake these Dick Gregory videos. Man, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Dick Gregory is a code man. Matter of fact, I think it was. Dick Gregory was the first person that dropped a joint about the Planet of the Apes joint.
Speaker 2:No, that was Paul Mooney, wasn't it?
Speaker 3:Paul Mooney was one of them. Dick Gregory and Paul Mooney was talking about the Planet of the Apes joint. When you watch them joints you be like yo man. That's crazy. And then the crazy part about it is a lot of people walk out the movies and got all this sympathy for these mutants. Go right home and mistreat black people. Man, you know what?
Speaker 2:I mean we the mutants, we the mutants, man Mutant, and proud man, I was like yo man.
Speaker 3:That was crazy man, that whole situation.
Speaker 2:Where is it, brother Dick? Y'all better start breaking code. Start breaking code. You're entertaining yourself. You know what I mean, but that's what it is, man.
Speaker 3:It was a lot of good stuff in them films, man. I've been watching them crazily. I went back. I'm starting to watch the whole series over again. Man, I'm telling you now that I told you this if you ain't been paying attention to it like that, man, when you go back and watch it now you're going to be like yo this is crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, like I said, I was already on it and I actually was laughing because I seen some clips of old Bugs Bunny cartoons and nigga was shooting the Indians. And nigga was shooting the Indians and he was marking it down. One little, two little, three little. I was like yo this is crazy bro, yeah man.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean all this stuff like I said man, all of that stuff man they put in our entertainment man, it has a lot of stuff that just be like yo man. It mentally messes you up, man. But again, you know it's funny. The beauty of you know the streaming channels now is that you can get down Like I think we've talked about this before you can actually watch a lot of the old shows that we grew up on. You know what I mean. And a lot of them old shows that we grew up on man had like undertones of doing the right thing. You know what I mean. But these kids, it's why they so jacked up now because you got reality TV, you got YouTubers.
Speaker 3:You don't have no balance in hip hop music. You know what I mean. It's all just horrible trash, the entertainment is retarded, I think pop music.
Speaker 2:Man, these little white girls is getting a little ratchet too. Man, it's all crazy, yeah, crawling on their knees and all.
Speaker 1:This is my thing. How are these streamers entertaining? What's entertaining about these niggas?
Speaker 2:Which one is it YouTube?
Speaker 1:I'm talking about like Kai. I don't want to drop them names, but like they're not entertaining, I feel what you're saying.
Speaker 2:In fact, I am going to say this because it needs to be addressed. Did y'all see that video of I think it was Ray J or somebody trying to get in the shower with this kid man?
Speaker 1:No, I heard about it. I seen it on.
Speaker 2:X man, I'm like this is crazy.
Speaker 3:Them kids so weird, I don't you know. They play with stuff.
Speaker 1:They said Ray J had a hand in that whole Whitney. Thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah. Allegedly, allegedly.
Speaker 1:Allegedly.
Speaker 2:But that's what happens, man. Is that? I was like looking at it. I understand what you're saying, because I seen the kid drewski do the white face thing or whatever. And um, which addie murphy, we were talking about it, that's addie murphy.
Speaker 1:Years ago I was. I was just speaking to my girl, like yo, I watched it on snl as a kid. Yeah, when it's in the bank to get the loan and all but now everybody's offended by it, you know.
Speaker 2:I mean because now a lot of cauc people are saying like you know, he was wrong for putting on a white face or whatever, like that.
Speaker 1:How can the oppressor be upset at the oppressed in any way? You don't have that right.
Speaker 2:I seen a clip of a man speaking. He said the only invention that white people never took credit for was racism. As a professor, this was no comedian. This was a professor. This was no comedian. There's a professor giving a speech White professor at that.
Speaker 1:Not to mention none of these white moderates ever come out against the KKK. Why is the KKK still in existence?
Speaker 3:We just talked about. You saw the thing I posted up on Facebook Right Some time ago and it was like 1960s and this white, old, white broad is probably in the 50s and she's telling this story. It's this beautiful story in her head about these freedom fighters that's coming down here messing with our good niggas. You know what I mean. We have a wonderful relationship with our niggers. This is the 50s and the 60s.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay.
Speaker 3:This was going down in the 60s too.
Speaker 2:No, I'm saying, I thought it was something recent. I was like what?
Speaker 3:But you know what's crazy, people at that time, black people at that time were looking at her as an ally. They were looking at her as an ally. They would look at her as an ally. We have those same people right now who are sitting here, white folk who you go to your job and you love and everything like that you have. You have probably like a good working relationship with them.
Speaker 1:But they'll tell you it's wonderful, what's trump, trump is doing not not to mention those people that were up, that were born in those times. Are our parents right? This is the information, or their parents? This the information is being fed to the children. You know I'm saying so, like when people say that this is not a real thing. You can clearly see that this is a real thing. That's been happening since, not even before then, but you can see how it still has a correlation now, because these are, these are the people that raised the people that are in charge of the world right now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I had a white friend that I used to work with. Every day, man, we still had lunch with a female man and we all, we all went you know lunch and you and we all went you know lunch and you know all the time, man. And I remember, like one time we had a discussion I was talking to somebody Black in the office about what's the thing oh my gosh, the people getting you know, black people getting pulled over or stuff like that man Right right and we was having this conversation and you should have seen her face turn up, man, like she was upset about you know that we was discussing this Like.
Speaker 3:She was like.
Speaker 2:Uncomfortable.
Speaker 3:It wasn't even uncomfortable. She was like in total disagreeance to what we were talking about.
Speaker 1:The nerve of you niggas talking about. You want to, you going to talk about.
Speaker 3:And then she was a good. I ate with her every day. You know. Ate with her every day. You would think that you know.
Speaker 2:Was she different after that conversation?
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:No, she was just. It was just what it is and you know it goes back. You know I heard Martin Luther King say this a long time ago. He was like the white moderate is the worst thing you know. He said you know with the racists, you just know where they stand. The white moderate believe they're doing their righteous due diligence in the world.
Speaker 1:And they always try to cloak it in righteousness.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they believe that they're good white people.
Speaker 1:Doing a service for you, savages.
Speaker 3:You know what's funny? I don't even think in a lot of sense. They even think like that. I think they just think, like you know, I'm a good, righteous white person. I go to church, everything like you know. You got some white people that go to these churches that you know they support Trump.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've seen the clips and they talk about we. We, we give you guys culture and we you know what I'm saying. Like you guys are savages and we put clothes on you. You know what I'm saying? Like we taught you a different religion.
Speaker 2:Like, come on, man they say this in the church there's white people that say this all the time yeah, all the time, man, I don't think they say this in the church, I don't say wow no, but these are the arguments.
Speaker 1:When you see people having these arguments with white people about racism, they're like well, we helped you guys. You guys were in the jungle with no clothes on. It's funny.
Speaker 2:If that conversation goes down like that, right when you lash out, there'll be the same ones that say I didn't own slaves.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, my parents didn't own slaves. You ones that say I didn't own slaves, you know my parents didn't own slaves.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. So it's like, but they can tell you something like that. It's crazy, go ahead.
Speaker 3:Like it's gone so crazy man when I went down to my uh I don't know if he was with us when we went to visit my grandmother one time man in South Carolina, man, and there's a white church that's like right here, right, and behind that white church is a colored cemetery. They put a new sign on it. It said color cemetery. But you know, back in the days, a lot of times If white people let you in the church, they will put you in the balcony. You know what I mean. And if they buried you they wouldn't let you put, they wouldn't let them bury you in your church cemetery. You went to the color cemetery. You know what I mean and that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:That's the kind of weirdo garbage that comes with. You know, and I'm not, obviously I believe in the Bible. I don't got nothing to do with you know. I don't believe the Bible has nothing to do with their thought process. They just racist. You know what I mean. But I'm just saying that you know a lot of people who think that they're this righteous group of people. They're part of this righteous group of people they believe in.
Speaker 3:You know what's the thing we saw the other day where the, where he was talking about Trump right, and it was talking about him deporting people. So this white dude had a microphone in his Trump supporter face and he says, well, you know, you know. He kind of saying like, well, you know, you know. You kind of saying, like you know, jesus is from a place, reading the word of color like would you let him in this country? She was like if he was here legally, he said jesus christ, you want jesus to get his papers, you know. I mean this is the crazy portion about what people you know. I mean you want jesus to have good paperwork to come to the United States.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:These people be believing that they're righteous people. Man.
Speaker 1:It sounds like a parthai to me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it does sound like that man. Well, again, we're not there. But that's one of the things that I fear in regards to that man because, again, like I said, if a man can you know, put this, you know these national guard out on the street and whatever the case may be, you know he can also tell you to go in your house at a certain time, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Can't do this.
Speaker 3:But I got to do my homework on this because when I was in the military man, I forget the numbers, man, but at one time or another I thought there was more minorities in the military than there was Caucasian people, Because my experience in the military, you know, and maybe I was in the wrong in the West, I don't know, but it was a lot of. I didn't see as many white people as I saw minorities.
Speaker 1:And I could be completely wrong. But this is the thing right If you control the mind of that of said minority, they'll act like white people but you know what I will say in this generation, I think these kids are different.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean because they voted for Trump.
Speaker 1:We all knew where Trump stood. We all knew where Trump stood and. I'm not even saying that the other choice was the right one, but we all knew he said what he was going to do and they voted for that, even though that directly conflicted their personal interests, because in their mind they're Caucasian.
Speaker 3:I don't necessarily wholeheartedly agree with that. I'm not saying that they aren't right. I'm quite sure there's a bunch of them that you are right about, man but I just think they, I think I think the social media thing man has like messed people up. Like I just said, like we were just talking about this conversation, how people get on the um, the news. I'm seeing constantly on the news black people saying oh, we love you know this, for whatever you want to say, so almost like a police state thing, we love it. This is what they're saying, we love it, you know.
Speaker 2:I mean, and for all I know, these people could be planted and I was going to say because those are the people that you see on the news. Now, if you're going to actual internet, where you got people that's out there in the streets, it's a completely different conversation, you know, I mean.
Speaker 1:I mean, I had an experience with somebody. Well, okay, I'll tell you the whole thing. When I was inside I worked in a little library and the brother that kind of ran the job. He came in and he was telling me how he was jogging in the morning and they ran down on him, threw him on the ground and everything. But he was cool with that happening because he knows that they're keeping his neighborhood safe.
Speaker 2:Even if he's arresting him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, like you got slammed on the ground when you just trying to get your early morning exercise because you're a nigga and you're cool with that.
Speaker 2:I would never be cool with that that would never be cool with that. That's crazy. That's crazy. Wow. And now he's in jail without being in a neighborhood that they're protecting.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, he's an outsider, he's an outsider, oh, okay, okay, he comes into work.
Speaker 2:Oh, he comes into work, okay, okay, I got you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he wasn't. I'm just telling you, I was there. He comes in. He's the outsider. He comes in to run the spot. You know what I?
Speaker 2:mean.
Speaker 3:You know, I had a similar argument with somebody before in regards to the death penalty and I was telling them like, and it's a black person. I was like there's no one in the world I could ever support the death penalty. I mean, just on the righteous side, my religious side wouldn't let me do that, you know. Just take a person's life, you know. You know, through the court system, whatever, like that. But then I was like I literally sat down with this person. I told him, I said you know, you do realize that minorities, you know black and brown people, first of all, we just get railroaded through the system. But this, you know, there's evidence, factual evidence, to show that we are more likely to be killed than white folk. You know what I mean. How could you vote for something like this? You know what I mean. How could you stand on the side of this? You know what I mean when you know that, first of all, we get jammed up in the system. Number two if it's between you and a white person, you're going to fry. You know what I mean. The person, I, you know. If it's between you and a white person, you're going to fry. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:And I was like you got the person I was talking to was a female. I was like you got black children. You know what I mean. Your child might be in that situation one day. So I was like there's no way in the world I could ever support that system. And the person was just like you know, you're not black stuff like that and maybe, like you said again, part of maybe, some sort of systemic racism and self-hate you know in there something like that. I don't know, but uh, there's a lot of stupid people that we have these dumb conversations with on the regular black people. I don't know, but there's a lot of stupid people that we had these dumb conversations with on the regular Black people. I don't know man. Like I said again, I often wonder because, you know, even they were talking about when the Black Lives Matter thing happened and they was having those rallies and whatever, and they were saying that they believe that there's people that are in those rallies, that are in there to personally incite certain things.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they are. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:You know, incite certain things in order for you know things to go way louder, just like when I guess lack of a better term they were called riots was happening in Philly during the pandemic. They said that it was people out there, caucasian people out there, that was breaking windows of stores and like hey, come on y'all, just so they can provoke the situation.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's what you'll see with this, and that's what the congressman out of Chicago was saying, is that they might send people out there during that Mexicanican pride parade to do that.
Speaker 3:You know I mean, this might be, uh, another civil war man, if it gets to this point, because I'm telling you, yeah, I think it's leading to it spike was on espn. To bring it back to spike he was on espn promoting this movie and, uh, I think stephen a had asked him something about this and he was like man, he was like y'all get away. Spike was like, yeah, y'all get away with that in Washington DC. Bring that down to Brooklyn. It's going to be a totally different ballgame.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So I was like man.
Speaker 3:To be honest with you, like you said, they do have the provocateurs, but there's a lot of liberal white people that's going to go way left with this. You know what I mean. There's a lot of liberal white people, are they really? Let me tell you something about what I believe about a lot of Caucasian people. There's two different types of I don't want to say two different types, but there's several different types of Caucasian people. There's some that's brought up in the Northeast, there's some in the Midwest. They all have different mentalities. There's a lot of liberal white folk that live in the city man that have their Black friends in. Whatever the case may be, they go crazy. I always say this too.
Speaker 3:I think there's a lot of people that actually believe in the concept of America. They believe in the Constitution and all that other stuff like that. I don't necessarily subscribe to that. I don't believe because I'm Black. I haven't seen the Constitution. It don't work for me. You know what I mean. But they believe in the Constitution. They believe in what Trump's trying to do right now trying to get another, third and fourth term and all that other stuff. There's some people that hold tight. They don't want that dictatorship and all that other stuff like that. I think that would be a problem for a lot of them. I'm not saying you and I, like I said, we talk about this all the time, we have different views on white folk. I don't believe all Like I said, I got some good white brothers that I can believe.
Speaker 1:I'm going to tell you why I disagree with you. Why's that? Because we've never seen the white folk that you're talking about ever storm the Capitol. We see them other white folks storm the Capitol and nothing happens. The white folks that you're talking about, that would be allies. We never seen them. Niggas do that.
Speaker 3:Well, I think the thing about that is that it's like us. We don't storm the Capitol, we don't fight like that until we push to the limit.
Speaker 1:We don't storm the Capitol because they're going to shoot us. That too know what I mean. Like we don't, we don't storm the Capitol because they're going to shoot us.
Speaker 3:That too. But I mean, what I'm saying is we don't really we don't really act physically until we're pushed. And I believe that there's a lot of people that are white, that they just go about their everyday life and they're just trying to. You know, everyday life, they don't have no problem. But push them in that situation, I believe they'll react. You know, I mean just like I give a perfect example.
Speaker 3:I mean you talked about this before. It's like when we talk about stuff that goes on in different countries, like we know right now that in certain parts of the middle east there's blacks, there's slavery, which something in all of us here in america you know is, or any black people in the world should be uprising about. But we just go about our regular day in life because, you know, we just want to feed our families and come home or whatever like that. But there's something in us should not be able to be accepted to. You know the fact that there's somewhere you know I've seen online where they're packing black people in the back of trucks in the Middle East. You know what I mean and we're accepting to it.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Nobody's saying anything.
Speaker 3:But it doesn't hit home for us Because we don't see it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it don't hit home for us because it's over there.
Speaker 3:We don't see it.
Speaker 1:We're dealing with enough over here.
Speaker 2:We'll try to put you in the back of a truck. How would that work, Jay?
Speaker 1:I'm still trying to deal with the remnants of them taking my insurance. You know what I mean. Seriously, bro, that's the real thing. It's a lot of stuff going on, yeah it's crazy.
Speaker 3:Stuff like that, going on with that kind of stuff, man, and, like you said, I'm starting to see a lot of old on an everyday basis. I would see her and she would black hood. You know, trump is this. He put money in my account during the pandemic. Same goofy Been talking that for about the whole year, or whatever the case may be. Now, everything going left. He's a dirt bag or whatever like that. He told you what he was. He didn't cover nothing up. He told you what he was.
Speaker 1:I know someone who has a special needs child who is like the child is like 18, 19 years old. The child is able to dress themselves, but they are definitely special needs. Their check and everything and the medical and everything for that child got cut off because they're saying that that child is self-sufficient.
Speaker 3:Wow, Like it's terrible out here. Yeah, the industry where we work right now you know I'm getting particular, but you know it's funded by a lot of government funding. Right now that government funding is being pulled up, man, we just lost like 40 managers. You know what I mean. And they're well, I mean we. You know what I mean. And they're well. I mean we can say you know we're working in this, we work with autistic people, autistic elderly children.
Speaker 3:You know different kind of people and that industry right now. You know they're being jacked up by this. You know what I mean. So I mean, even right now, you're looking at the whole. You know they pretty much forget I'm not sure because I didn't follow it Friday but they're waiting for the returns on this job market right now and if that goes left, the stock market will go left. You know what I mean. All these things are going haywire and you know, and some people are stupid enough to believe that Donald Trump is the only person that is behind this. You know what I mean. He's nobody, he's just the front man. For it's just crazy to see how all these things are going left and people are just like all right, I love Trump, no matter what.
Speaker 3:It's almost like he's becoming some sort of spiritual being or something like that. It's some of these people's eyes, not mine.
Speaker 2:Some of these people's eyes. I've seen people talk about it. People used to say this crazy thing.
Speaker 3:People used to say this crazy stuff about Barack. Some people get nuts with this political garbage man People like Martin Luther King, jesus and Barack.
Speaker 1:I believe I told y'all before when I was driving across the country, every time I would be like anywhere other than the Northeast. You go in the back and you'll see F for rock. You know what I'm saying. It's like you know F for niggas. It's like damn, like what's going on here, I think when we did it, you know the driving.
Speaker 3:I think everybody should drive across the country. I think everybody should drive across the country. I think everybody should drive across the country, especially black people. You learn a lot Then you'll learn that you are in America. Yeah, a lot of people. Black people are brought up in these major cities. They're none around black, they're only around black people and everything is. You know, let's fight and go to war and all this other stuff like that. Get yourself in your car and just drive to that Midwest.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:And see where you are in America, you know what I mean, and then I'll tell you. Politically, you'll know who will be the president, based off of what goes on when you take this ride.
Speaker 1:It's one of two cities in every state, Well, not even every state In most states that have a black community. Other than that, it's not there.
Speaker 3:There's a lot of places. Man Ain't no brothers man.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Ain't no brothers, man. You know what I mean and you know how it is. When you go to them truck stops or whatever the case may be White people get they get real crazy in some of these truck stops, man. They start talking real nuts. Man. You be sitting there eating dinner or breakfast or something like that. Man, they be talking real crazy. You think you was in Brownsville, brooklyn or something. The way they talking to you or something like that.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. You got to look around and make sure, like hold up, Is you talking to me?
Speaker 3:Yeah yeah. They're indirectly talking to you. You know what I mean. You might be sitting at a waifu house or whatever them different places where you eat Huddle house, yeah, huddle house, or something like that, and then they'll bring up the news and they'll be like he need to be tarred and feathered. You're like what Hang?
Speaker 2:on, hang on, they're like hold on what?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, you know they be talking crazy, man, you know so. You know it's a whole different thing, man, but you got to get out in this world. If you ain't going to travel the world, you definitely need to ride around America and find out where you're at.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you get out there in Iowa and Utah and Nebraska. Well, yeah, nebraska, you know what I mean. You'd be like damn ain't no niggas.
Speaker 3:Listen, man, I tell people all the time, man, that area out there Nebraska, iowa, idaho, south Dakota, north Dakota it's a beautiful portion of America, but I want no parts of it. You know, what I mean. I want no part. It's beautiful, you go out there. You're like man. That's beautiful out here. Man, go into that local Walmart. You're not going to that Walmart man.
Speaker 1:The only place that I was at where it was predominantly white but the people were just extremely nice, was Wisconsinisconsin.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I never really messed around in wisconsin man, but I drove through there, but that's what they said. It's the most liberal liberal area.
Speaker 1:They they act. They was. It was so cool that when I was in the walmart I seen the cheese here and I was I can't believe people have these. And then the lady put it in her head and was like take a picture so your friends will see it. Yeah man, you know what I'm saying, wow.
Speaker 3:And that's what I said, man. And again, going back to all of this, man, I believe there's good people in every culture man. You know what I mean. I never have that thought process of I think. You know we always talk about this how some of these people just give some white people too much power. You know what I mean. Like they talk about them like they're superheroes or something. You know what I mean. Like the white man can do this and the white man can do that and whatever. Like man. Listen, man, there's good people in every culture man.
Speaker 1:You just got to find them. I think when people be saying that at least when I say that I refer to their laws they have the ability to make those laws.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you talk different. I know what you're saying you know what I mean Me, and you disagree on certain things, but I know what you're saying, man. I'm like, yeah, you know, we're kind of like going back to, we like Magneto and Professor X man. Magneto and Professor X. Man, yeah, man, like, yeah, man Like. I hear you, man, but all these people ain't that bad man. You be like man. All of them bad. That's crazy yeah man, but I need to check out the X-Men joints again, man, yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm definitely mad. So final thoughts man Spike movies rock these days X-Men are good and we Spike.
Speaker 1:Spike is out of touch with what we trying to see. We like Ryan Coogler. We support Ryan Coogler do you think?
Speaker 2:do you think it's time? I mean, this is final thought, man, cause we gonna wrap this up, but Spike been whack to bring it back. To bring it back and I like Spike. We said a lot of good things on this show, man but to bring it back to Spike man, do you think it's time for Spike to retire? I mean as long as he?
Speaker 3:can get a dollar.
Speaker 1:He can never retire a creative, but he might need to bring somebody else in to help redefine his division, Because the same things that he was doing in the 80s you can't do that now. It's movie.
Speaker 3:Movie making is so much better yeah, and then you can do so much like you can really put a good film together for so much less. Yeah, you know, I mean so I that's why I think me he was just talking about this the other day was like all of these um artists, a lot of these black actors and stuff, they're constantly waiting on these white organizations to put a movie together. Y'all got money, oh you're talking about Wells Fargo.
Speaker 3:Put the money together and put a good project together. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. Like you shouldn't no longer. I mean you watch kids in these hoods now with a iPhone are making whole movies.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. I was a big fan of Money and Violence.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was a big fan of it too, man. I watched it, I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1:Even though it wasn't great acting, the concept and the story is what I was like this stuff.
Speaker 3:I'm going to tell you what's crazy about that. What you got out of Money and Violence is that they gave you the thing that the Spike Lee movie is missing. You know what I mean? That's right, Even though they didn't do it as great, they didn't have the cinematography and all these great actors. In whatever case may be, it wasn't. It's something like I said, in Spike Lee movies there's something that's always missing out of it. Where you're like man, this is a good concept, I'm digging where he's going, you know, beat me out of my money several times and that's what the old I had with this particular one is that it was a good movie.
Speaker 2:What a good concept.
Speaker 1:Could have had a lot of good movie.
Speaker 2:What a good concept Could have had a lot of good twists, Because even when I'm watching them flick, I'm thinking like you know all the players around Denzel's character. I'm thinking like could that person be the one that set him up? Or this person to be the one to set him up, or somehow that person's involved in it, and it was like you could have had fun with that. You know what I mean. But then it was like it got kind of predictable.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean he lost it after Mo Better Blues, malcolm Jungle Fever.
Speaker 2:That's it for me, or School Days maybe Spike was just a man of his time. You know what?
Speaker 3:I mean, you know the reason why I want to say he should retire and he should keep at it, because he's kind of like it's kind of like you know what I'm saying. He's kind of like the Randall Cunningham of movies for us man. You know what I mean? He was the guy that came in when we didn't get black movies, man.
Speaker 2:You gotta respect that fact he gave black people the speed. If it wasn't for Spike, he probably wouldn't be on Ryan Coogler.
Speaker 1:But I think he he's one of the black leads in movies.
Speaker 3:I think he also should be a leader in the sense of like, all right, you know some of you kids on these YouTube, man y'all putting together some good projects, man, let's put some camera work behind these kids, man, and let them do something man.
Speaker 1:But you also you know what we forget about the derogatory things that Spike would do towards black people, Like there actually is an interview where he's talking crazy about Deion Deion. Who? Deion Sanders? Oh yeah, yeah, I don't know who he thinks he is. He needed to stick to one sport. He want to play all the sports and be all.
Speaker 2:And I'm glad that you said that, because maybe that's the problem that you see with Spike Spike stays in one lane. You know what I mean, whereas when you look at a person like Ryan Coogler, he branches out the man done the dramatic movies, did the Black Panther. In fact, you're going from Fruitvale Station to Black Panther, to Rocky you know what I mean Good film.
Speaker 3:All of them is good films.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's not the same lane. You know what I?
Speaker 3:mean Especially Fruitvale Station. I would say that's probably. I think that was the better film out of the three you just named.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:We like Wakanda and all the other stuff like that but I like Fruitvale Station.
Speaker 2:But each one of them was a lane that you respected.
Speaker 3:I like Sinners.
Speaker 2:I've never watched it.
Speaker 3:I've never seen it, never seen it, never seen it, man.
Speaker 1:Y'all watched that Spike movie but you ain't watched Sinners.
Speaker 3:I didn't watch the Spike movie. I told you I don't come out. I don't come out of that house, I'm going to tell you something.
Speaker 2:It's something and I don't want to sound racist when I say this, but it's something about black monsters. That kind of hits different for me. I'm glad Black folks with fangs and stuff kind of hit different.
Speaker 3:I'm glad you say that I don't really think horror films. I never really was into horror films. This wasn't a horror film Because that's what I thought it was. It's not a horror film. I'm going to tell you.
Speaker 1:It's not a horror film.
Speaker 2:I got scarred by black people.
Speaker 1:It has horror elements to it, but it's one of those things where this is representing something totally different. If you're catching it.
Speaker 2:I got scarred by Blackula brother.
Speaker 1:I don't even know why you watched it.
Speaker 3:Blackula was the joint of his time.
Speaker 2:I was a kid. No, not Vampire and Brooklyn.
Speaker 3:That's my regular. That's what I'm saying. I stopped watching horror films. Man, I can't do it, man, I'm a spiritual person. Now I've been thinking I'm going to bring something home with me.
Speaker 1:I agree with you with that. I watched the remake of the Exorcist years ago and I started to watch it and I'm like, oh, I can't do this. I cannot do this.
Speaker 3:Listen, man. I remember when I was a kid man I think about five. I was young man when the Exorcist they had put it on TV. Man, I remember watching it with my mom. Man, I was messed up back then.
Speaker 2:I was like, oh no, this ain't right. You ever see the movies and you're like yo, these people have tapped into something unnatural.
Speaker 3:This is not right, man.
Speaker 1:I agree it does something to my spirit. I'm like I'm not even with this, All that stuff.
Speaker 3:Omen, damien, exorcist, amityville Horror, all them joints To this. To this day, man, I can't sit down and watch them films, man. I watched them back in the days, you know, just around people, and they all did it. You know, I watched it with them.
Speaker 2:I can't do it now the whole Conjuring and Annabelle doll and all that, no, not in my home the only one that I can watch still is Michael Myers, because it's funny to me.
Speaker 1:I don't really get scared, it's more suspenseful. I'm like this ain't real. That other stuff it gives the element of supernatural realness. You know, it's just a feeling.
Speaker 2:Because in most cases, this is based on somebody's true story.
Speaker 3:It's happened to some evil man. You know, I remember growing up and you know when we was in the hood, you know we had the. You know your boys bring the videotapes over to the house and you'd be like man, let's watch. So the man in you don't want to say like listen, man, I don't want to watch. But in reality you're like man, you only got no comedy yeah, when it's over you need a mental cleansing man.
Speaker 2:Like, oh no.
Speaker 3:I was messed up from Candyman man. I was messed up behind Candyman man. He said Candyman, remember Candyman. When he said Candyman in the mirror man, I was scared to do that.
Speaker 2:And you know what I'm going to tell you why? Because it was a brother murdering people. You know what I mean. For some reason I'm not saying it in a racist tone at all, man, but it's just something about these black monsters that hit different places.
Speaker 3:I'll tell you what else I can't watch. Man, I'll tell you what else I can't watch.
Speaker 2:You told me to look like my uncle son.
Speaker 3:It's kind of crazy when you think about it. Right, our scariest movies now is about white men. Yeah, yeah, our scariest movies now is about white men. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jeffrey Dahmer.
Speaker 2:These people existed. John Wayne Gacy.
Speaker 3:John Wayne Gacy. I can't watch none of them joints either, man, I don't care who he is.
Speaker 1:The American government yeah.
Speaker 2:Any biopic about an old president, Nervous man.
Speaker 3:I was scared watching the Clinton joint. Man You're talking about how many people Clinton done murdered. I was watching the documentary. I said, man, I got to turn this off. Man, this is too crazy, they might come and tap me out or something.
Speaker 2:Locked up. It's a lot of things that kind of make me uneasy. I'm watching Locked Up or whatever like that, when they show you in jail or whatever the case is. If you're on YouTube and hear prison stories, that's scary for me.
Speaker 3:I had to stop. Man, I remember watching 48 hours I used to watch 48 hours on the regular man and I was just like, you know, just watching. And I was like man, I remember one Saturday sitting in the house and I'm just in the headlock, man, you know, just watching it from the down. I was like man, I remember one Saturday sitting in the house and I'm just in the headlock, man, you know, 48 hours after 48 hours, and I was like I feel bad, you feel, yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:I couldn't ever get with the first 48. I was like I can't watch.
Speaker 3:First 48, that's what it is, yeah yeah, I couldn't watch it. It was kind of funny. The passing Philadelphia airport Put me on that Philly Cats man. We were sitting in the airport, we were watching the first 48. We were like oh he about to crack.
Speaker 1:My uncle love it. I'm like I can't, I can't do it.
Speaker 2:Can't do it, man, too much of a murder.
Speaker 3:Depression, man, you know. Then you watch how people Get killed over nothing, man, you know what I mean. And then a lot of it, man. Then you watch how people get killed over nothing, man, you know what I mean. A lot of it is about us dying. No matter who dies, it's bad, but mother struggling get killed over nothing, it's crazy.
Speaker 3:I remember one time they shot a sister I think that was the time when I gave it up man. She got kicked out of her apartment and she had a U-Haul and she was going to drop off her stuff in the U-Haul and these young cats pulled up on her, robbed her for $80 and shot her and killed her. And I remember them telling the dude what's his name Like yo, you realize, you shot a person who was like this is probably the worst day of her life, man, you know what I mean. You know she lost her apartment and everything like that, and then you just want to shoot her for over $80 and kill her. You know what I mean. So I was like that's when I kind of stopped watching that stuff. It's crazy.
Speaker 2:All right, chelsea, we're going to wrap this up, though. It was good to have all the brothers back on man. All right, y'all. So we're going to get ready to ride this one out, brother, thank you. Thank you, guys again for showing up, doing what we normally do. You know what I mean. All right, so until the next ride, guys, check this out.
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