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Charlie Kirk’s Words on Black America Are Worse Than You Think
We dive unflinchingly into Kirk's legacy of inflammatory rhetoric toward Black Americans—from his claims that Black people were "better off in the 1940s" despite Jim Crow laws to his advocacy for public executions. His final conversation before being shot involved blaming "gang violence" (a well-known racial dog whistle) for America's gun problems. This history makes his death morally complex for many in marginalized communities who recognize violence is wrong while simultaneously acknowledging the harm Kirk's platform caused.
Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years, counting or not counting gang violence, great Brothers and sisters? Why, god? There's one light.
Speaker 2:There's one light. There's one light. Give me a moment, would you, friend? I've never been up to my life's odds before. Welcome to the Only One Mic Podcast. Call me Gerard Brooklyn Dre.
Speaker 2:J-rob in the building back in studio. How you feeling, brothers? I'm feeling good, All right, so listen, man. We had some stuff planned, but then Charlie Kirk got shot, so now we got to talk about that. All right, fellas, let's just jump right into it. Man, Y'all heard the intro. Everybody's seen the video. This was a story that's pretty much been pumping the whole week. They've shown this video from every angle possible and people know how that story ended. So I'm like, look, we gotta jump on here and talk about this.
Speaker 2:Charlie kirk, the conservative activist and founder of turning point usa, was speaking at an event the america comeback tour as part of his on-campus speaking engagements at utah valley university, and the event was outdoors, under a tent. Kirk was interacting with the audience, including a student, discussing topics including mass shootings, and this is around the time he got shot 12.23 pm, local time, a single shot was fired, hitting Kirk in the neck. He was transported to Tempagos Regional Hospital, but later died from his wounds. Now, fellas, everybody know the history of Charlie Kirk. All right, Charlie Kirk has said some very outrageous things and I'm going to just preface this by saying look man, I'm no fan of no man getting assassinated, I'm sorry, in his case, shot in front of their family. You know the man had two young kids and all All that aside, not, you know, jumping on the wagon, like you know, farting on why he dead. But listen, the guy did say some really outrageous and outlandish and inflammatory stuff towards African-Americans and minorities and America, and hey.
Speaker 4:Jay, I was taught a long time ago, man, not to say nothing about the dead. And you know, I thought to myself like is there anything in the scriptures that say that you can't speak?
Speaker 2:bad about the dead, I know that. But what I do know is the dead know nothing. So yeah, what I say is we're speaking on his history, not speaking ill against him because he did these things. You know what I mean?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean he was a wicked individual man, like his speech was very dangerous man, like you know what I mean. Like it's different from a stone-cold racist to that moderate slick racist talk man, yeah yeah, but I don't even think his his, his talk was slick.
Speaker 3:He said that he wanted executions to be done publicly yes, yes, he did he said he got a public execution.
Speaker 4:So no, when I, when I say slick, I mean like you know, a regular racist will just tell you like I'm outright racist, I hate blacks, I hate Jews, I hate Hispanics, all that other stuff like that, and they stick on that. His message was like, if I listen to his message, common sense would tell me he's a racist. But he's also saying in the background no, I'm not really racist, I'm a Christian, all this other bull crap or whatever. You know what I mean. But I'm saying really racist, I'm a Christian, all this other bull crap or whatever case may be. You know what I mean. I'm saying he's more dangerous than a hardcore racist Sometimes. You know, we had this conversation about the whole thing about white moderates. You know what I mean Whereas they look at themselves like these righteous people you know what I mean and I think a lot of people that go to his rallies, I think in some ways they believe they are Christian.
Speaker 2:Well, and it's because, you know, if you look at a lot of Charlie Kirk's, you know videos, he's speaking the good talk, you know it's like. It's like that forked tongue, you know. I mean he's quoting a Bible. He's quoting a Bible and he's saying things that a lot of um in this case christian christians, conservatives like to hear. So like, for instance, I'm looking at a news report where, where they were actually, you know, doing like a memorial for him, um, and so in the memorial, they, you know these people and this is out in california, by the way and these people are saying, well, you know, charlie was such a good man and they interviewing different people to my, how he was a good man and he was disgusting. But then they go to this little girl and you know what the little girl said.
Speaker 2:I like and this little girl can't be no more about maybe six or seven years old he talked about jesus a lot and and it's like, but the thing is is that he talked about jesus a lot, but in that split he also said very inflammatory things about black people. He blamed. The man's last words were about to blame black people for shootings in America. You know what I mean. So I mean, if you really, if you really look at it, and when I say, when I say black folks, I'm not trying to say as a black man, every black person is in the game. But the dog whistle to white conservative America is when you say gang urban. You know things of that nature they're talking about black folks.
Speaker 2:You know, what I mean.
Speaker 3:Go ahead, jay. It's really obvious the things that he was saying is inflammatory and right out, flat out racist. The fact that we have to again be held to a different standard than everybody else, where they kill, maim, destroy our people, whole families, whole bloodlines, they don't have no remorse for it, but one of them get killed by one of them and we supposed to be seared and be all kumbaya. I'm not with it.
Speaker 2:You know, like I said, I don't. I for one, personally, I don't want to see anybody get murdered. I don't, you know I mean. But at the end of the day, like I said, man it's, it's this, a self-inflicted thing is. You did his the his thing, radicalized this kid to do what he did. You know, this kid is 22 years old can I say something to be honest? Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 4:Don't get me wrong, god knows man. On my righteous side I believe that nobody should get killed. But I'm not going to lie. Initially when he got shot I thought to myself I didn't think it was good, but I was like he's a messed up individual. You know, what I mean and don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to promote this.
Speaker 3:I'm not trying to say it's cool, good belly laugh.
Speaker 4:I know, righteously, it's wrong. I gotta pray against myself, man, because I was like man, this dude, he says the things that he said. I believe and I'm telling you right now, and this is what I've been seeing since Trump got in office, man, these guys are saying stuff that are like poking the bed, man, you know what I mean. They're trying to start a race war here in America, almost that's what I see when. I see them man.
Speaker 2:I would think, yeah, that's definitely it. I would think, yeah, that's definitely it. But in this particular case, I think that they're going to invoke some type of law like Kirk's Law or something like that, and somehow they're going to regulate this internet. Because, if you notice, most of these mad shooters are like 20-something-year-old white guys. Let's just be for real. You know what I mean From Luigi Mangione, which he wasn't a mad shooter, he just murdered somebody. But you know what I mean From Luigi Maggioni, which he wasn't a mad shooter, he just murdered somebody. But you know what I mean? All of these guys.
Speaker 3:And this guy just killed somebody and, truth be told, by their whole doctrine he probably did radicalize somebody, if that's real. But again, in my personal opinion, I don't even believe that. But here's the funny part, because if that's the case case why they grabbed that little fat old white man they didn't have no gun talking about oh, we got to shoot it oh, because it's called a distraction brother well, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm saying. There's no way in the world, uh, a brother or anybody can't shoot somebody in broad daylight and run, toss the gun and get away all All right, I'm going to do this real quick.
Speaker 2:I'm going to do this real quick because let's give the people some context on how this kid pulled us off right.
Speaker 4:Well, hold on. Let me answer this man, Because you said something about regulating the internet. Yeah, they do regulate it. They regulate it on us. And don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of Farrakhan. But and don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of Farrakhan, but you can't get a speech on.
Speaker 2:Farrakhan, the Nation of Islam can't do nothing on it.
Speaker 4:Well, the reason why I say, this and before I get into the whole they block racist black people you know what I mean?
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:They allow racist white people to speak all they want.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean, and I'm not saying that I agree with either, or I don't think black people can be racist, but I'm not sure. Topic for another show. You know we always disagree with stuff over there.
Speaker 2:but yeah, but like I was going to say, is that you know before I get into the context of this kid and how he pulled this off when I say regulate the internet, all right, we can get on the internet as black folk and we can scroll through Facebook and X or Twitter whatever you want to call it some parts of YouTube, and we can watch ourselves as black folk beat the dog crap out of old people, kids fighting themselves videotaping it and these are girls in the community beating each other up. Nobody regulates this stuff now.
Speaker 4:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:It is regulated or even just being killed by the police.
Speaker 2:People getting killed and the reason why I say that is stuff now, uh, that's what I'm saying, but listen, it is regulated, but listen, but no, it's not just being killed by the police people getting killed, and the reason why I say that is I don't know how much anybody is on on twitter or whatever, but I do know this if you scroll through twitter, you see everything from from sex to violence and and hear me out, though, the reason why I say that internet regulation is different is because what they're going to do is, if it's us all, right, man, let them go ahead and poison their mind, but when this young white kid gets radicalized, or whatever they want to call it, from watching too many videos of Charlie Kirk and everybody like that, or whoever you're watching, maybe some Palestine stuff, whatever they're going to say, man, that's a mental health crisis stuff. Whatever they're going to say, oh, man, that's a mental health crisis Because that kid now is not. You know, he's been corrupted, as opposed to. We just watched that from we Crazy.
Speaker 4:But that's what I'm saying. It is regulated. You can do anything that you want against black people. You know what I mean. He was radical, that white boy, and I'm assuming I don't know his complete ideology or why he did what he did or whatever the case may be, but if you want to, you know, take a look at it. If anybody was radicalized, he was radicalized by Chuck himself. You know what I mean. Probably just watching the videos and got ticked off.
Speaker 2:So listen to this. They said that this is all alleged according to the investigation. Again, I'm getting to the. In fact, let's just do it all in one shot. All right, no pun intended intended, y'all but the um. They said the shot came from rooftop of the lou lou center. Lou center, approximately 200 yards, and later revised to about 140 to 142 yards, from where kirk was speaking. The weapon was a beast.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, he pulled that one off the weapon was a military, being a military, my person, person myself, man, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:That's good ways, man, but this is a kid, I don't believe was in the military, which is something. But that's another thing to say, Like where did he get this training from?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so we won't get into that in a second.
Speaker 3:I've seen videos. They said that that was an easy shot. Anybody that's been in the military could have pulled that off, and he was military trained because he shot the nigga in the neck and not in the face.
Speaker 2:But there's no record of him being in the military. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:I don't know if he was there or not. You're right, with an M16, you pretty much can't hit anybody. That's why I was surprised he didn't hit Trump. I thought that was some bullcrap. But you're right, you pretty much should be able to hit anybody from that range. But I'm saying that for a regular civilian, from what I understand, to just grab that kind of weapon and go to work with it, that was amazing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, and so what he did was Maybe the wrong choice of words, but yeah, we refer to him as the kid. It's actually Tyler James Robinson. Let's go ahead and put that out there.
Speaker 3:And so they said how come all you tutors always have three names?
Speaker 2:Tyler James Robinson.
Speaker 3:I mean technically, we all got three. No, no, no, the third name was Tyler James.
Speaker 2:But Robinson isn't actually a first name. I guess you can't have Robinson. I'm just saying they got three names.
Speaker 3:You got John Wilkes Booth. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:James Earl Ray.
Speaker 3:Yeah, allegedly James Earl Ray.
Speaker 2:Allegedly.
Speaker 3:He didn't shoot one of the kids. They always got three names, but if Pookie gets shot it's just man. Man from 26th Street did it. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Sprinkle some coke on him.
Speaker 2:Put the dope in his pocket. It said the weapon was a high-powered bolt. It said the weapon was a high-powered bolt action rifle, specifically .30 to .06 bolt-action. I mean, for all of y'all that know, you know, and it was a Mauser type.
Speaker 4:What'd you say? Say it again what was the?
Speaker 2:weapon. It was a high-powered bolt-action rifle, reportedly a Mauser Am I pronouncing that right Mauser? It said it was found laid in a wooded area wrapped in a towel, consistent with messaging suggesting that the weapon would be disposed. Now it said the bullet cases were unfired and unfired bullets were found engraved with provocative messages, including examples. It said notice bulges, o-w-o. I don't know what that is. It said one says hey, fascist, catch and O, bella Chao, which is reference to an anti-fascist song, bella Chao. And if you read this you are gay. And this is this is what I said was on the on on the bullets.
Speaker 2:It said digital evidence include discord messages from some roommate discussing retrieving a rifle from a drop point, wrapping it in a towel and grave bullets, he said. And it said that the suspect, tyler james romison, 22 years old, was from washington, utah, and he was actually from the area. So, and I don't know if y'all seen the press conference with the um, I don't know if that's the police chief of ut, utah and he was saying that if something like this happened, that they was hoping that it would be somebody from outside of the state that came in and first of all, who makes a statement saying if this happens, I hope it ain't somebody from I mean we as folks. Sometime when you hear a crime, you be like man, is he black? You know that's different, but it's like yo, somebody gonna shoot up a spot, shoot up your college. I'm hoping he's not from here.
Speaker 2:When you just say I hope nobody do it.
Speaker 4:I'm a conspiracy theorist. I thought they was trying to start the race war.
Speaker 3:I thought he was gonna pin it on somebody black If he didn't then nothing happened. You know what's funny to me? Well, not funny, but it's kind of ironic that the Trump administration has pushed out all the so-called woke people out of the colleges so they can't speak or they would take their funding, and they're allowing these type of people to come and inseminate the children or the young adults. The next brightest minds coming up with this nonsense that Charlie Kirk and people of his ilk, and that's crazy.
Speaker 4:The sad part about it is he wasn't that smart.
Speaker 4:Well, that's the thing he wasn't that smart it was amazing to me that a lot of people that you know, especially the Black people that he had up there, like it seemed like he was dog-walking them in a conversation. I was like I'll just ask them simply like a question I asked you earlier. Let me ask you a question what is the? What was it DEI? What is it for? What is affirmative action for? Why did they bring these things into place? You know what I mean? Because the reason why they brought them into place is because they recognized that there was a problem.
Speaker 3:The crazy part about it is that his response to you would be to take away jobs from white men.
Speaker 2:And that's exactly the response he gave when he asked that question.
Speaker 4:But again, that right there is ignorant because we can actually sit and Google.
Speaker 3:You can right now go on the chat, but right now, not to interrupt your wisdom, but right now it's like everything that that side does is just pure ignorance and it's like no matter if they know that it's incorrect or not. They still spit it in their bases, believing it.
Speaker 2:I'm glad you said that Before y'all get—go ahead, man, I ain't going to interrupt you. No, I said.
Speaker 4:I believe that to be right, but still in the midst of—if I'm going to go somewhere to debate somebody, I'm going to still tell you the truth. The problem is that when he goes in these debates and the ones that I've seen it almost seems like he's actually intelligent, like he's walking off with a victory in the debate. You know what I? Mean and it's impossible to beat this debate because I'm sitting there looking at him like who are you to talk? He's actually from a sundown town.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:In Illinois, that part of Illinois, no, don't surprise me From a sundown town in Illinois. You are from a place whereas you know the history of it, you know has some foolishness attached to it. So how do you, you know, how do you get to be some sort of aficionado in?
Speaker 2:these topics. And this is the thing, and this is the thing is that I think the whole bag with this dude is he's sent to these college campuses and his whole thing with that turning point is you know, almost change your mind. You know what I mean. Who do you change the mind of? Kids who are about 18, 19, 20 years old? Don't know no better. Get all the information off the Internet. If this man could sit here and tell you.
Speaker 3:Especially children that haven't been around.
Speaker 2:A bunch of different cultures, right it's equally influenced their mind with hate because they don't know the other side, no, no, other side.
Speaker 4:But that's what I'm saying, man. That's the difference in them and that's what makes him so dangerous. That's why I didn't even like what he was giving out, because I don't. I I mean, obviously I don't like it, but he's so dangerous because he's giving it to him in a lollipop. It's so sweet, it ain't that regular. You know, put a clan's head on your joint and just go out there. Although we who are intelligent, or not even intelligent, just black people know all the things you're doing is in code. It's just coded information for racism. You know what?
Speaker 2:I mean, it's brothers in the hood that could have tied Charlie Kirk up. But what happens is that he, from my standpoint of seeing things and if I didn't see anything different then let me know. In the comments I haven't seen him debated anybody of worthy note from the black community.
Speaker 4:None of them. Nobody was worthy enough, nobody.
Speaker 2:It's almost like they must have, you know, screened everybody that wanted to talk, or they might have planted them, it's something you said, to your credit too, is that he never took that mess to an HBCU. You know what I mean. He tore the places where he knew those were easy wins, you know what I mean. So it's like if you were really up there in terms of your information, you could have easily sat down. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4:Some people are status, some intelligent people.
Speaker 3:Some intelligent people For him and people like him. Their job is not to really debate. Their job is to spread the word. And spread propaganda. If they get debated, they get crushed.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:If they really debated they get crushed. But they can go to these kids in low-income places and talk all this nonsense and mask it in religion and they can be believed.
Speaker 2:Right yeah.
Speaker 4:That's what I'm saying. That's what makes them dangerous. Man, like you just said. The little girl said he talked about Jesus a lot Like to make him seem—everybody talk about Jesus ain't good. You know what I mean. Everybody talk about Jesus ain't good. You know what I mean. Everybody talk about Jesus ain't good. They don't have no good. They don't know nothing about you. He obviously didn't know nothing about Jesus. If you're talking, what are you talking?
Speaker 2:The devil know a lot about Jesus. You know what I mean and that's what it is. You came out there. It's sad the way that they kind of putting this kid in this light, like he's this huge model.
Speaker 4:And they have pictures online with him. With Martin Luther King, yes, and.
Speaker 2:Malcolm X Malcolm.
Speaker 3:X Martin Luther King.
Speaker 2:John F Kennedy.
Speaker 3:He said that George Floyd wasn't murdered because of the police. He was murdered because of a drug overdose.
Speaker 1:Did you see the?
Speaker 2:brother. He was one of the first people that was promoting that murder because of a drug overdose.
Speaker 3:Did you see the brother? He's been one of the first people that was promoting that.
Speaker 2:Did you see the brother say we don't know if Charlie Kirk died from a gunshot wound because he might have fentanyl in his system or something?
Speaker 3:I had a whole another joke about the public execution because he said he wanted Coke to sponsor it. Now what? I think? Would be funny what I think would be real funny is because we just had the public execution. What if somebody clipped Ray Charles in there and told him you got the right one, baby. Uh-huh, that would be hilarious.
Speaker 2:That's stupid Silly man, I want to do this real quick man because for all the people out there that claims that you know Charlie Kirk was this, like you know dude said the Civil Rights Act was a huge mistake almost something like a mess to white people. I mean, I hate to say it like that, but I want y'all to take a quick listen it's important to get out all of this.
Speaker 2:Let's get it out, because I'm a right now. I want y'all to react to this man. Whenever you listen to the whole thing, this is your hero, folks.
Speaker 1:If I see a black pilot, I'm going to be like boy. I hope he's qualified. When blacks in America did not have the same rights they had today, they were less murderous, there was less break-ins. Why is that? And the data shows they were actually better in the 1940s. It was bad, it was evil. But what happens? A certain skin color now gets their own summertime celebration. Oh wow, look how far blacks have come. It has now become a racial complaining day. Remember what BLM stands for Burn, loot and murder. Yeah, dei stands for it. I'm going to be big and earn it, just so we're clear.
Speaker 5:Can we also acknowledge, due to the laws under Jim Crow, that Black people were?
Speaker 1:significantly hindered from economic advancement. This is a really important question. The data shows not really. Black Americans are poorer today, in 2024, than they were in the 1950s. The disappearance of the Black father has been the number one driver of black poverty in this country. At least agree that black dads not being around is a bad thing.
Speaker 3:Anyone's father not being around is a bad thing.
Speaker 1:Starting in the 1980s and continuing onward, there's been a war on drugs. Is this correct? I like the war on drugs. Blacks commit more crimes than whites do. They commit more murders, they commit more arsons, they commit more kidnappings. That's not a war on drugs, that's a culture problem. Why are so many blacks committing murders outside of their population? So we've spent $20 trillion on uplifting black communities $20 trillion and black Americans are poor. We've spent subsidized housing, medicaid, public schooling, subsidized college. We're talking about $20 trillion spent on a great society, and yet black America is poorer, more murderous, more dangerous.
Speaker 2:What does equity mean? It means taking from other people.
Speaker 3:So what's your thoughts about that? I don't even know where to begin, man. The only thing that he said was right was that the loss of the Black father is part of the biggest impact on the Black family.
Speaker 2:The loss of any father.
Speaker 3:He doesn't talk about how the laws that were enacted to take away the black father you know what I'm saying? How they incentivize the black mother to keep the black father out the household.
Speaker 4:The dude totally dismisses the whole thought of systemic racism. You know what I mean. He totally dismisses the whole thought of why these things became the way that they are. You know what I mean. It totally dismisses the whole thought of why these things became the way that they are. You know what I mean. It's not like you know people just woke up one morning and decided to walk away from their children. You don't talk about how the welfare system, you know, forced Black fathers to. You know, at one point or another used to have to hide in the house. You know what I mean. Or if somebody in the apartment complex told their social worker that there was a man living there, then they had to get them out of the house and all kinds of stuff like that.
Speaker 4:And then we got to take into consideration these people who went into welfare in the 60s. These are babies and grandbabies of slaves. This is people coming out of slavery. This is the reason why these people are in poverty. You know what I mean. It ain't like they just chose it. And again, this is not like how we came here on our own. You know what I mean. We were forced to come here. We wasn't like everybody had this beautiful story about Ellis Island or anything like that man, black people were forced to come here. Yeah, I don't really believe that part either, but I'm, I'm, I'm gonna stick with that. Well, you know, I mean, we all know that there's, you know, the whole morris thing and stuff about that too, but there was a lot of black people that was also forced to come in. You know, slavery brought a lot, it's not?
Speaker 3:a what I, what I, what I, what I, what I say is this right, that's the. That's the biggest example of white fragility at its finest. Like this, white man is sitting here just blaming everything that's a problem in America on black people, when there are there are more white people in this country, so there's no way that black people can be committing the most murders when they're not even the most of the majority of the population. Right, come on, man. But you have these people, a whole group of people that hear this nonsense and believe it, because one, the education system is terrible. Now, these children are not as intelligent, not as not as bright or like critic. They don't have no critical thinking skills. So they believe in this nonsense and they're running with it Even the joint where he was talking about.
Speaker 4:You know, we commit more crimes. It's like that doesn't even make logical sense. Man, I was looking at, I'm looking at, what Chad GBT right now says like 59% of you know, white people have like 59% of all arrest or incarceration. And it just makes logical sense because it's more white people here, there's more of them, yeah.
Speaker 3:How stupid do you got to be to believe that nonsense? Right, right, how stupid do you gotta be to believe that nonsense?
Speaker 4:Right right. We got whole states where there's correctional facilities and there ain't no black people there. Yeah.
Speaker 2:The dude said that black people were better off in the 1940s. Segregation, Jim Crow, voting rights, job discrimination, segregated armed forces, GI Bill discrimination let's go down Racial violence, police brutality. This is the 1940s that we were thriving in.
Speaker 4:In the 1940s, black people were just still sharecropping.
Speaker 2:Restricted housing education inequality.
Speaker 3:It was a regular thing for a group of white people to march into black towns and take their shit. So how can we be better off?
Speaker 4:This dude is crazy man, it's disgusting man.
Speaker 2:You know again, I'm not all for anybody just going out and killing people, but he was a very, very tough individual well, the thing is, is that the fact that they prop him up to the point where, I believe, one place somebody building a statue for this dude?
Speaker 4:don't ever compare that dude to martin luther king or malcolm x or malcolm x that that's.
Speaker 3:That's what. That's what makes me upset, because they talk about him being assassinated. This nigga got shot.
Speaker 2:Somebody said something listen to this too, brother. They was like he technically was not a political figure, but yet they paint this as a. They paint this. They're painting it as a political assassination, but he's not a political figure.
Speaker 4:He's nobody. I mean, he's a speaker. He's no different than Cornel West. So what's the chick we was talking about, angela.
Speaker 2:Bryant, amanda Sills.
Speaker 3:Amanda Sills. I would never put that crack on the same level as them. Brilliant speakers.
Speaker 4:Oh no, no, I'm not saying that in that sense. I'm saying that that's you know. I guess that's the realm of what you want to put him at. He's not, he don't need to be put. I'm not saying he's not on those people's level, I'm saying that he's in that and I guess, if you want to say, if that's space or if that's what you want to call him, but they're not no political figures or anything like that man, they're just speakers.
Speaker 2:They're just speakers. They're just speakers, yeah, they're just speakers. But that's what I and I mean now we can put on, put the hat on, because what happens is when you use terms like this political assassination, you know, I mean you're putting them up there with the malcolms and martins and everybody and kennedy and everybody like that. I always look at it like this. When that kid kid got shot and died, I told you I was talking to my brother. I said let me tell you something. Something's about to come out of this Right and hear me out.
Speaker 2:I've seen on Fox News they was talking to Kash Patel. I think Kash Patel is like the head of Homeland Security or something like that. He was the one that started talking about that. We got to start monitoring this Internet I ain't making this up, you know. I mean where he was saying like, well, we got to look at what, what it was that kind of you know that he was looking at. What was he reading, who was he speaking to? You know things like that. And they were saying like, for instance, with this kid here, um, they were saying like he just started really getting political within the last few years and you know, his pops turned him in but they were saying that he he totally disagreed with, with charlie kirk's um views, which I well, you know I mean. But now it's kind of painted that like this is a democrat republican issue, like because he disagreed with charlie kirk's views, you know I mean, like, if you don't yeah, I'll tell you what I don't even like.
Speaker 4:Like you got cats that's folding up because they went online and said pretty much what we saying. Like I don't want to, I didn't want anybody to just die, but on the same tone, this dude was horrible. He was a horrible person. Man, there's people that are online. I seen Styles P fold up or something like that. Wasn't it Styles P that had to be folded up? Well, no, well. Well, he tried to dance. Well, let's say this.
Speaker 2:He said that they Allegedly, allegedly he had a song. I forgot who he had the song with or whatever, but I think it was Uncle Murder and somebody else. And in the song, remember, on Pay it In Full, when Cameron was like like yo niggas die every day b he'll be all right. I think that was something in the song, but he put it in a social media post at the time, so he claiming it was like bad timing that he wasn't saying that. For for that he was saying it because of the song they had.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and yeah, niggas die every day. B you be all right, Tough right. It's messed up, man.
Speaker 2:It's messed up, man, but I get it. I get it. I mean everybody going to hide it, I like that.
Speaker 3:Why do we, why are we expected, as black people, to have compassion for the people that hate us? And I understand the religious aspect of it, I understand what y'all are going to say about that, but the reality of this situation is, if you were on fire, this man would not throw water on you. He would actually probably throw something to make you burn faster Gasoline. Yeah yeah, I have no sympathy for that.
Speaker 2:And I'm going to be honest with you, Jay, I mean even you know spiritually. You know what I mean. We deal with it spiritually and, be honest, that's something everybody got to come up to, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you got to fight with it.
Speaker 2:You got to fight with it. Man, you got to fight with it.
Speaker 4:That's it, because you'd be like, your natural instinct is to say, all right, man, he didn't care for us, we don't care for him. It's a tough situation. That guy was man. I remember I couldn't watch him man. I couldn't watch this dude man. That's how horrible it was, man. There would be times that I would be cruising through. You know, sometimes I like to listen to stuff like this, just for information. You know what I mean. Whether it's good or bad, just hear what he's saying, you know.
Speaker 4:And a couple of times. Man, I pulled a dude up. Man, I had to turn this stuff up. It's so ignorant. It was based in no facts. You know what I mean? It was just him running his mouth in front of a bunch of people and I'm sitting there. They're looking at this dude. It's like he almost had that Kanye West kind of.
Speaker 3:Kanye was telling the truth.
Speaker 4:Well, kanye crazy too, man, but I he was telling the truth.
Speaker 3:There's something he was playing, had some facts to it.
Speaker 4:Well, I think, when it comes to a lot of people right Like with this guy man and I hate to bring it back to this conversation there's certain things that he talked about when he talked about homosexuality I kind of agree with him. But there's certain things that he talked about when he talked about homosexuality I kind of agree with him. But again, like you say, a broken clock is right.
Speaker 1:Two, times a day. You know what?
Speaker 4:I mean I could listen to Kanye and I could say, well, he makes sense on this aspect. But then I could also be like yo, he's a nut man. He does a lot of weirdo stuff, man, that just takes me out of my loop man, this is my thing, man, and I see where this is going.
Speaker 3:It's like I don't agree with the homosexuality and all that weirdness as well, but I can't side with a group of people that think that I'm not even a human.
Speaker 4:I don't side with nothing. He say you know what I mean. But again, that's like you brought up Kanye, and I'm saying like, yeah, I could listen to certain things that Kanye say. I understood when he was saying you don't have the answers. I understood what he was saying. He was basically saying, like we, as black people, run the industry of you know what's cool as far as fashion is concerned. Somehow he was upset about the fact that he can't get in there and make the money that these other people in fashion are making. He just didn't know how to articulate it, but I got it. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:I understood when he said George Bush hate black people. I somewhat agree with that they let a lot of black people die down there from Hurricane Katrina.
Speaker 4:I ain't even talking about that, just black people in general under his administration man you know, just living in the life of America. Man, I agree with that. You know what I mean. You can tack on many presidents with that garbage, you know including, and tap Biden on there with two in a debate about the whole transgender thing.
Speaker 2:He said that the guy was basically saying like you know, the whole man can be a woman if they identify as a woman, whatever the case is. He said so if I put on blackface, can I walk around and say I'm a black man and y'all have to accept it.
Speaker 3:Like I said, I kind of I didn't say he was right, he was actually right, but the kid was like nah, he's like well then I can accept that You're just like.
Speaker 4:I don't want nothing from him Like.
Speaker 3:I can't applaud a fish for swimming, that's obvious.
Speaker 4:It's common sense.
Speaker 2:But this is the type of people that he's debating. I mean, anyone can tie these kids up, man.
Speaker 3:Why you think you're doing college tours man.
Speaker 2:And now that we on topic man, why was the HBCUs getting threatened when they had nothing? You know black folk, they had nothing to do with this, but they said it was a swatting thing that they was doing. But why?
Speaker 4:I'm going to tell you, man, that base is crazy man.
Speaker 3:I've seen a group of white people jumping up and down about white men fight back. What are these white men fighting back from? Who's their oppressor?
Speaker 4:Yeah, if they're losing, who's winning? Who's?
Speaker 3:winning, but this is what's going on. When they had them white boys down in Charlottesville, it was that type of energy. White men fight back. We reclaiming this country. They're taking our jobs. They're taking our country. Nigga, y'all are immigrants, y'all not native.
Speaker 4:You know what kills me about most of this stuff. Most of this stuff is done in places where there's no African-Americans. Most of these conversations, these rallies are in places where there's no African-Americans. It's the same way I feel about Cass and Harlem. You standing up on the corner, you know talking big and tough about white people on the corner.
Speaker 4:Go down to South Dakota, Stand down there in them soapboxes and get busy out there and see how it works. You know I kind of don't respect it. I don't man, I don't respect it. If you really want to get, I have to give Martin Luther King and Malcolm X and some of these guys of that time their respect, because these dudes used to be in the trenches. Man, They'll be in the trenches. I seen one time when Martin Luther King is in the he's in the house somewhere in the south and people talking about coming to kill him and they got all kind of black people on the porch and all kind of stuff. It's dark out there. Lives is on the line. You know what I mean. Most of these people that talk, they sitting there, Some of these white racists, they in some places where you're never going to see them.
Speaker 3:You got it. Martin Luther King is kind of the world-renowned or at least American-renowned peace person for black people. Nobody got nothing bad to say about Martin Luther King. Yeah, they do.
Speaker 2:But you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Charlie, did he have something bad to say about Martin? Like, come on, this guy was a piece of trash, his idea was a piece of trash, his idea was a piece of trash. The only thing that I agree with is that you shouldn't be able to say, hey, I identify as a whatever and be able to, and people got to recognize it?
Speaker 2:Here's the question that's on everybody lips right now. Y'all think Trump lined him up.
Speaker 4:I honestly thought when he got hit, man, I thought maybe. I said, man, they're going to put a black person on this and it's about to get popping. I really thought that.
Speaker 3:I look at it as a distraction. I don't know what they're distracting us from, but that's a big distraction. Something's about to go down, if it ain't already went down in the shadows and we don't know about it.
Speaker 4:Or you'll. You'll see very soon some sort of legislation passed that was all slick and crazy. That you know will change. You know the course of time. Something was going to change, man, but uh, that's what I think.
Speaker 2:When Rahm Emanuel was in um and it was in I believe it was I and it was in, I believe it was I want to say, obama's administration, if I'm correct and um, he ended up being like the mayor of chicago. We had something that happened and he said that no good tragedy should. It was like, basically, like something comes out of every tragedy, you know, I mean like like laws to change. Like, for instance, you have september 11th. You wouldn't have homeland security if them towers didn't drop. You know, I mean, you wouldn't have cameras everywhere. So there's like things that they want to implement, but certain things have to happen before we can implement it so that you'll buy into it.
Speaker 2:So, when september 11th happened, you was cool with giving up your freedoms as long as you were safe, you know, I mean. And so when I say that now it goes back to what I told y'all earlier man, with this kid getting, getting getting shot, something's going to come out of it where they're going to invoke some type of law or something with these. I don't know, I don't know how it's going to work, but I'm looking at the way that they pushing them and propping them up to be this big figure and big leader because they know they want to say well, charlie's thing is not going to be in vain.
Speaker 2:His wife said today I think she spoke out today or yesterday night or something like that saying like don't think that his fight ain't gonna stop, like we're gonna keep.
Speaker 4:We're gonna keep this pushing and it's not something like that about the. She said something crazy like they unleashed. They're something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like something real aggressive. You know what I mean, and so that's what I'm getting at man, it's like I think things are going to change.
Speaker 3:But this is the problem, because if they were black and they was talking aggressive, they would get bombed yeah man. But these white people are allowed to run around, make threats, talk aggressively with hate speech and nothing happens.
Speaker 4:They are, they are celebrated you know it's funny just to say that, man, because I was just looking at something it was talking about how you know, when it comes to black people, especially the white moderate in this country that believe like so-called they're righteous and they're with black people and everything like that when it comes to black people fighting for what they believe in, you know it's always saying like, don't be violent, you know it's going to come, you just got to take time and all this other stuff like that. But when them towers fall, let's kill everything in Iraq. This kid gets shot here and what's the name? Let's go out here and take some heads, but black people getting killed all the time by the police you know what I mean All the time by the police.
Speaker 2:And I'm glad you said that, because he got shot in Utah. Not one single military member, but we're talking to non-violent yeah, you know what happened after this guy, after he got shot you didn't put no National Guard out there, you didn't put no military presence out there.
Speaker 4:He said we're going to Memphis.
Speaker 2:We're going to Memphis. I'm listening to the mayor from Memphis. Why are you coming here? Why? You know what I mean.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I wanted a manhunt.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when this kid was on the run, I'm like why you didn't divert all those federal resources to finding the guy's shooter. No, we're going to send him to Memphis. Man, I want the dogs Everything, and I'm here to tell you too man, if it just so happened that Trump had got shot and killed when he got shot, they would have done the same thing for him. They would have put him up on this. You know, big pedestal.
Speaker 4:Oh, he would be Ronald Reagan. He'd be, bigger than Reagan.
Speaker 3:That's basically what they're doing right now.
Speaker 4:By the time he finishes his term, he will be considered the best white president that ever came across. This whole thing, I'm telling you. I'm telling you, man, they look at him as some sort of deity or something like that, some divine being or something like that, it's really ridiculous.
Speaker 3:And all of these something like that man, it's really ridiculous.
Speaker 4:And all of these people are evil man, Disgustingly evil man. When you hear that talk and stuff like that and I hate to hear Black people promote this foolishness. Man, you got Black people down there. You got Black people going down in Washington DC talking about how happy they are that this cat got the army patrolling, you know, the inner city and all kinds of other stuff. Wait till you tell you to go in your house at 9 o'clock, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3:what about 6.30? Everybody inside?
Speaker 2:what about you got to show a card to show that you belong here?
Speaker 3:Or to be able to leave.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. Before we wrap up, man.
Speaker 4:Then they said they just reopened Stop and Frisk, or something like that too. I don't think they ever left.
Speaker 2:But I'm going to leave you out with this one. This is Amanda Seale's reaction.
Speaker 1:I'm not laughing.
Speaker 2:She went in man, this is bogged out. But listen, this is wild.
Speaker 5:You know, maybe I'm just so calloused by how many actual leaders and good people have been assassinated by state-sanctioned violence for the many years that we have been on this earth that I just can't relate to y'all who are like well, you know, you don't have to agree with the way someone lives to not agree with them being murdered. Yeah, I do. Yeah, I do, because, especially if their extermination was literally done in the exact context within which they said others should die, they had no problem with other lives being taken by gun violence. None, and so I do. I do have to agree with how you live in order to care about how you died. I don't know why you don't yeah.
Speaker 3:Shout out to the system.
Speaker 2:That is a radical view. That is a radical view, man.
Speaker 3:I don't think it's that radical. I think it's more realistic.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I don't, even if you're.
Speaker 3:Why are we running around here caring about people that don't care about us?
Speaker 4:Yeah, even if you're a righteous person, it would be unrealistic. You know what I mean. Like, unless you just have totally gotten to that point in your religious stand. You know to say that, you know like it's hard to feel compassion for that person.
Speaker 2:I guess, if you're looking at it, even historically, man look at it from that standpoint.
Speaker 4:I'm not talking, no, big talk. I'm not saying I've got to get better in my righteous stand, because when I see him I'm like man. He was such a horrible individual man, you know. I didn't really then feel that bad, you know, but I know righteously I'm supposed to be like nah, I don't want nobody to just get killed. That's my religious belief.
Speaker 2:It's more shocking than anything just to see him. Normally you see something like that and they would just take it off the internet or scrub it or something. That thing was everywhere, man, to the point where it was like kids had access to this video.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean. I wonder if it was a black man who said that he felt threatened by Charlie and shot him, would they arrest him?
Speaker 2:They'd arrest him, you and everybody else. Oh no, he'd have been dead.
Speaker 3:Exactly. I have no remorse for that white man. Good riddance, in the words of my man, samuel L Jackson hell, you ain't deserve to die, and I hope you burn your head what he was just totally blacked out and the dude is a.
Speaker 4:He was a horrible individual man. It's hard to overlook some of the things that man said, man, and again the way he was speaking. I know what he wanted for us, you know. I mean and that's the hard part about having any kind of you know feeling for him man, you know he wanted, he almost like he wanted us back in chains or something well, I'm gonna leave.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna leave you with this and I we had this conversation right before. You know we're gonna're going to wrap up, but I was just thinking, like watching this kid, like what would happen if he was able to get old. You know what I mean. He's not a political figure yet, or what would have not been one.
Speaker 4:He would have been a remarkable racist.
Speaker 2:I honestly believe like they would have. I honestly believe if he had lived, they would have lined him up for some JD Vance.
Speaker 4:It would have been like the Strom Thurmond.
Speaker 2:Him and JD Vance or something running for president.
Speaker 3:I would have seen a lot of propaganda on that that he would have turned 33 in, I guess 2028 or something. Yeah, yeah, whenever the next election is. They would have lined him up. Yeah, yeah, whenever the next election is.
Speaker 2:They would have lined him up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he would have been able to run for president and all that nonsense. Well, I think it's propaganda.
Speaker 4:He ain't going to do it. No, yeah, he ain't doing it. Yeah, he's gone.
Speaker 2:But the dangerous thing is the person that's going to pick up that ball after him and be a little bit more radical with it.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean he was, he was classic.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I really hope that he gets shot by a white man too. He was. He was a classic. You know how hard it is. You know, like if somebody came to me right now and said, listen, man, we want you to sell um, you know something, that was just like a complete hustle. You know, in my righteous mind you know they said we want you to sell something to people and we know it's going to hurt them down the line, you know how hard it'd be for me to keep a straight face and sell it to you. You know what I mean. It would be hard. If you're a righteous person, call yourself a Christian. You're a righteous person. What was dangerous about him is that when you looked at him while he was talking to you, it's like man, he believes this.
Speaker 3:He believes what he's saying, and his wife too. She's the dangerous one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've seen she was at a conference. Yeah, I said at a conference and I'm like yeah.
Speaker 3:He was mandoled. You want to take some ads with it?
Speaker 2:That was a different look on her face.
Speaker 3:Like what.
Speaker 4:She look like she's going to kill all the niggas At least the beast or something like that man.
Speaker 2:But I mean, let's be clear Again, a black man did not pull that trigger.
Speaker 3:Who are you mad at. You know what I mean? In their mind, it's the nigga phone.
Speaker 2:Yeah, listen, that black man did not pull that trigger. If he did, that brother up there in North Carolina that gave it to that Ukrainian lady, that was horrible. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:He is sick, something's going on with him. Yeah, he needs to be put under the the jail and I hope they do that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, please, that was horrible.
Speaker 3:The crazy stuff, bro, it was wild.
Speaker 2:That was sick. That woman didn't deserve it. I'm like what?
Speaker 3:Now that type of stuff. I don't condone that you know, what I'm saying Throw that brother under the jail. I don't want him in the street. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 4:Like throw that brother under the jail. Yeah, you don't represent him. Yeah, man, I don't want him in the street. You know what I mean. Yeah.
Speaker 3:He's definitely not.
Speaker 4:That could have easily been somebody's wife or you know anybody's other than my wife, mother, grandmother, whatever. You know what I mean. He was a sick individual.
Speaker 2:You know, I guess this kind of overshadowed that because they don't even talk about that case too much.
Speaker 4:It's a perfect example of what I'm talking about. Some people need to be in jail.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, absolutely, Absolutely.
Speaker 4:Some people need to be in jail, man, I don't understand, you know, and this, is you know, I've watched, you know in jail.
Speaker 3:This is my thing for that man and I agree he needs to go under the jail. But thinking about it I start to have compassion because I believe that man might be sick In order to brutalize somebody like that on a public bus. There has to be something wrong with him. He should have a real psych evaluation to see what's really going on with him.
Speaker 2:I'll save him some time and money.
Speaker 3:You're just crazy.
Speaker 4:What you being condescending Very much so. What you know. It's crazy.
Speaker 2:It's funny to say that because Hold on, shout out to the condescending nature right now. Don't say we didn't pick up on that, brother.
Speaker 4:Well, you know, that's what happens when they kill us. You know what I mean. When they kill black people They'll say well, somebody needs to understand why he went and shot the church up, man. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Something is wrong. Like we got to get to the bottom of that. He was brutalized as a child.
Speaker 2:And that's why I say they start changing them laws. Man, they're going to say it's a mental health crisis.
Speaker 3:He grew up in an impoverished systems, impoverished neighborhood. Never got no love from his parents. Probably was adopted. Yeah, something's wrong. Let's give him some help. He'll be out in 10 years.
Speaker 4:That's sick man.
Speaker 3:Guess who we won't see in 10 years, charlie.
Speaker 2:That's messed up, but I will say this, I will say this. But you know, when he said that, right, remember he was talking and he was saying about well, the black men are not in the homes, or whatever the case is. I'm just going to leave y'all with this folks, that shooter was turned in by his father, All right, he was home, obviously. All right. The Only One Mike podcast, that's his dad. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a citizen.
Speaker 3:I don't believe in citizens.
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