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Is America on the Brink of Dictatorship?

One Mic Season 15 Episode 6

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We discuss signs that America may be approaching a constitutional crisis. From military presence in cities to escalating restrictions on speech, these developments suggest a slide toward authoritarianism that should concern citizens across the political spectrum. As one host poignantly asks: "What is the American public going to do when he says he's not leaving office?"

Speaker 1:

This is the United States government, silencing voices that they disagree with FCC. Chair Carr put this out. This is his directive. This is the US government. Look, if they can come for Kimmel, they can come for anybody. This is happening. It's time to act. Figure it out, find a way, come together, push back. It's time to act, figure it out, find a way, come together, push back, because if this goes, it's over.

Speaker 2:

It's over give me a moment with your friend. I've never been up to my thoughts before. Welcome to the only one mic podcast called Jabra Brooklyn. Dre J Rob is in the studio. How you doing fellas.

Speaker 3:

How's it going All?

Speaker 2:

right y'all. Free speech is under attack y'all. Trump done. Put it out there. Man, jimmy Kimmel got suspended and all so who's next? All right, fellas. So you know what we do. You know, with Jimmy Kimmel getting suspended indefinitely by ABC and Disney, suspended indefinitely by the um, you know, by abc and disney and um, for some remarks that he made when I watched the show, honestly, it wasn't no criticism of charlie clark. He like mentioned them all about two seconds. Most of the criticism that came in that monologue was towards donald trump and his. You know his reaction, his reaction to Charlie Clark's Kirk Kirk, charlie Kirk, charlie Kirk, charlie, charlie Kirk yeah, Charlie Kirk, I said Clark, sorry His his reaction to, to his death, which is basically like Trump mourn Charlie Kirk's death like a child mourns a goldfish. And that came because, you know, when asked about it, trump basically glazed over it like, hey, mr President, how you doing, I'm alright, and you know, by the way, we're building this ballroom. You know what I mean. So it was like he pretty much just like glazed over it.

Speaker 3:

But or you just see now.

Speaker 2:

No, I think he genuinely probably did not care.

Speaker 4:

He done me. Just talk like that anyway.

Speaker 3:

That's how I feel. I feel the same way.

Speaker 2:

You're not going to overshadow what he's doing already. So if that ballroom is more important for him, that's what he's going to talk about.

Speaker 4:

It's not even that he's just done me. Just switch topics like that. You don't even know whatever's gonna come out of Trump mouth that just seemed like he genuinely didn't care.

Speaker 2:

But that's just but.

Speaker 4:

I don't think he cares about nothing. No, I really don't.

Speaker 2:

I really don't, I really don't, but that's where it was at. So what happens is the FCC chairman I think it's Bernard Carr, you know instantly contacts ABC Disney, tell him look man, get him off the air. And they're using Charlie Kirk as, like, the catalyst to get him off, based upon that particular statement. Now the crazy thing is, as I told you, I said the Internet. I didn't know it was going to go this way, but I said the Internet which the Internet ain't but a few clicks away, man that eventually they're going to use this as a catalyst to start silencing people. You know what I mean.

Speaker 4:

I think he messed up though. Man, I think they're alright if they're not messing with black people and brown people, but I think he done stepped on them. He done revived these liberals man, these real white liberals. Man Starting to get back out in the street. Man, you can say what you want about Blacks, you can say what you want about Mexicans and Hispanic people, but when you start messing with white people's civil liberties you know what I mean then that's a whole different thing. I think they're fighting a little bit.

Speaker 2:

The one thing that we know is that people don't want nobody touching that constitution. You know what I mean. And so, with this being pretty much the first amendment constitutional situation, you know I mean like, so, like who's next? I mean, the whole thing about late night television is this it was always which I'm not. You know, I don't watch it. You know, I think everything is watched in clips. Now nobody really sits down to watch a full episode of jimmy kim or fallon or whoever is on at the moment. But the problem is is that those institutions was always made to criticize some type of corporate structure, whether it be political man.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, they better watch these. But it's like you know anything that in type of corporate structure or political structure, that's what they do. You know what I mean. It's satire. So when it becomes more personal, he's like the first president that I've seen that actually took it that personal to say all right, we got to get these guys off. And need I remind you, when Stephen Colbert got fired a few months back you know, canceled the show he said that Jimmy Kimmel was next. This is what Trump said.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, the funny part about it is that Colbert is still in the air.

Speaker 2:

Well, when they say fired, it's like, basically we're not renewing the show, so they're going to let him finish his thing out contractually, so they're going to let him finish this thing out contractually. That's what makes this one a little bit more strange, because this was so abrupt, like all of a sudden it's like all right, that's it, get them off. You know, but they made it in the sense that it wasn't Trump's call, it was ABC and Disney's call. You know what I mean.

Speaker 4:

He always reminds me of that chump kid that. You know that just can't take a joke. You know I mean want to take the ball and go home. Yeah, you know, I mean like, because when you, when you think about this man, I wonder if, when you think about those uh, what was it? Those uh dinners that barack had the back was like back-to-back dinners, where they're clowning them at the at the dinner yeah, the white house correspondent sitting there looking like he like like ready to flip out, or whatever the case may be.

Speaker 4:

I wonder if they just didn't clown him when he went through all of this man. You know what I mean, because it seems like that's what sparked it.

Speaker 3:

They didn't spark it. If he can't have his way, no matter what it is, he's got some type of vendetta against some people.

Speaker 4:

That's what I'm saying. But I don't think he ever would run for office if he didn't ever get clowned like that. I really honestly don't believe that he ever thought he was going to win office. I think he thought he was just going to go up there and say a bunch of wild garbage and you know it would just go away. But I think he didn't realize he woke up a racist base here in America and they voted him in. You know what I mean? I think that's all that it boils down to.

Speaker 2:

What do y'all think, man? This is beyond cancel culture, because now you got people that are actually scared to say something or criticize or whatever. This is like some North Korea level type stuff.

Speaker 3:

It's completely ridiculous. Because of the simple fact of this, the KKK still exists.

Speaker 3:

The KKK still exists. The KKK can put out all their flyers, manuals, whatever, and it's cool, nobody talks about them. Whenever some type of I guess that's the right wing or whatever wing it is. When it's them with their rhetoric, it's cool, everybody's supposed to accept it. I drove around this country in a truck and everywhere I went an H-bathroom stall that said Obama. But that's what's going on here in this country. We gotta stop acting like that's not the reality that we still live in. Raceism is still alive. It hasn't went nowhere. It's even stronger than ever and these niggas is in control.

Speaker 4:

Actually, I mean he's kind of tearing down. You know they want to build this dude, charlie Kirk, up. He's tearing down his legacy. That's what he stood on. You know free speech Just saying whatever stupid garbage came out of his mouth. You know what I mean. So why can't a man make a joke? Charlie Kirk says whatever he wanted to say.

Speaker 3:

We done heard the many different wild statements he done made. The first Remember Rush Limbaugh. He had a nationally syndicated radio show. We spewed racist garbage and they let him.

Speaker 4:

But they always had him, bill O'Reilly.

Speaker 2:

Alex Jones.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, he lost his shirt. You know what I mean. He just went too far, but he did not technically lose the show.

Speaker 2:

That's the whole point. They just moved him over to X. So I mean it's like he didn't really lose the show, but he lost a lot of money. But you didn't cancel him completely in fact Kanye on there.

Speaker 4:

That was it. It was Kanye that he brought on right yeah, he brought Kanye on.

Speaker 2:

But the thing is that was a crazy interview in itself, but he brought Kanye on. But the thing that people don't realize is the same people who got Cam. That people don't realize is the same people who got Camel out of here, is the ones that brought him back. And this is the same person that said the Sandy Hook thing was a hoax. You know what I mean. That's where he lost his money at. You know what I mean. But they didn't cut him off completely.

Speaker 4:

Bottom line. You can say whatever you want about black and brown people. You can call black people the n-word. You can call brown, uh, brown people. Any kind of racist slur you want to say. You can do it in comedy, you could. You could do it in drama, you know? I mean, how many times do you hear people say spic or calling uh, what is it? You, a kite, and all these other? You don't hear these racial slurs in movies. You don't hear them and you know any other thing but our racial slurs or anything towards black't hear them and you know any other thing, but are racial slurs or anything towards black and brown. Say whatever you want.

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna. I'm gonna jump in here for a quick second because I'm glad you said that I was looking at something the other day. Um, you know, I haven't looked at this show in years because it went completely off the rails. But like soft park, right, soft park actually had an episode for charlie prior to him dying. It was supposed to be released that week or so, like that, before he got killed. Now they immediately took the show off like not canceled the show, because they just got hit with a bag from Paramount. You know, to keep the show going, it's a big contract they got. So they yanked that episode Right, so they yanked that episode right. And the thing why I say that is this everybody is on that dog on apology tour or the whole. You know, charlie kirk wasn't a bad guy tour, you know. I mean when they're doing this stuff, dumb guys even doing that and I mean these people openly mock jesus on every episode of south park. But when charlie kirk killed, it's like yo Jesus.

Speaker 2:

Muhammad, yeah Muhammad, all type of stuff and it's like they mock all of this stuff. But when it's time for him, it's like oh we so sorry that everything happened A white man.

Speaker 4:

I'm like this dude was an open racist A white man who was a racist goofball, and the most, the more I watch more and more of his clips. You know, just happen things popping up over Facebook, whatever like that. I remember on the last show we were saying like a lot of people didn't get him. But there was a lot of people like just got in him. You know what I mean. And he was a complete doofball. I mean even the whole thing where he says about Michelle Obama and them. That kind of ticked me off. Didn't he drop out of junior college or something?

Speaker 2:

like that. He didn't have the mental capacity to do X, Y, Z.

Speaker 4:

These are people that went to Ivy League schools and prominent institutions of learning. You know what I mean and you got the nerve to say they don't have the brain capacity to deal with the things that he can deal with.

Speaker 3:

I mean it's crazy, it's white privilege.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, definitely that's it. White privilege is the worst thing out here, man. It's the worst thing out here. I mean the fact that you know, because it's almost like you can be at the bottom of the barrel. For some reason you think you're better than me. You know what?

Speaker 3:

I mean, chris Rock had a joke about it years ago. You know what I'm saying he was talking about. He's rich and not one white man in there would trade places with him.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, you know what I'm saying. But that's real. White privilege is a dangerous thing, man, it's dangerous.

Speaker 2:

Also dangerous is the fact that you have so many people that's like again man like, despite the fact that you have so many people that's like again man like, despite the fact that he said the things that he said. That sides with him and I want to bring this home man, especially our people oh, man, we got.

Speaker 4:

Christian so called pastors out here, cooning rappers everybody's out here, kunin rappers, everybody's out here Kunin man Like this guy. I mean there's people that's coming on here. I'm going to tell you I think we talked about this before man A lot of people I think they haven't even heard of him.

Speaker 2:

They didn't, and I think that's the big thing, and they're just making statements because they're just saying well, a person got shot.

Speaker 4:

I think a lot some people are now waking up to see like who he really is. But I mean, if you're coming on a national show, man, you're on television. Those people, you know what I mean. The Facebook mob, you know they just ignorant, they don't know what's going on half the time. You know it's just following along with the status quo. You know it's just following along with the status quo. But in regards to those who your job is to, you know, get information and give it back to people and give your thoughts on it or whatever, it's absolutely crazy that you will come on, you know, publicly syndicated show and just make a fool of yourself. I heard one Well, we'll say we'll talk about another time. Heard one well, we'll say we'll talk about another time. But stephen a basically said uh, you know, because he got shot in front of his wife and his kids. That exonerates everything that he did wrong in his life you know what I?

Speaker 2:

mean, okay, let's you know what, let me, let me jump in here real quick. All right, this is uh, stephen a, uh quote. I'm you know, I'm just going to read it, I'm not going to play the clip Now. When asked about the death of Charlie Kirk, stephen A criticized Jimmy Kimmel for a monologue where Kimmel made jokes about political reactions to Kirk's killing. Smith asked where was the joke. He questioned whether there was any comedic content in what Kimmel said and implied that it wasn't funny and perhaps ill-advised. He also said about him being taken off air that he was disturbed that ABC suspended Kimmel for the remarks and he expressed sympathy for Kimmel, calling him a good man with a record of service. But he also acknowledged that Kimmel did that what Kimmel did may not have been the wisest move. All he did was criticize Trump. I mean like, if y'all listen to it, you know that what Kimmel did may not have been the wisest move, all he did was criticize Trump.

Speaker 4:

I mean like, if y'all listen to it, you know he did what he's supposed to do. He did what he do in any other late night night. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I mean no different than David Letterman and everybody before him might have done, you know, and a lot of the comedians, like Bill Maher, even who's on the um on the side with you know the whole maggot. Well, actually he's a conservative, so he say. He even said it was wrong while he was criticizing jimmy kimmel but still giving him props at the same time he was like yo, like that shouldn't have happened. But also, uh, steven a, uh j rob's man here, uh condemned those who celebrated kirk's death or tried to use it to pray for praise or political point scoring. He emphasized that, regardless of political views, the killing of a person is a tragedy that shouldn't be glossed over by partisanship, which you know, like I don't like.

Speaker 4:

Again, I'm not all about no public execution, but the man says some you know, I know J Rob is what you say Diametrically opposed to what we said, but I don't believe nobody should just get killed, but on the same token, I don't believe that nobody should be. No, you know we got to look over your life like. You know, like, just because you got killed, you know we got to forget about what you actually did in life. You know what I mean? That's crazy.

Speaker 3:

This is my thing, right To be honest.

Speaker 4:

It's not that I don't care. Hold on, can I interrupt you? I just want to say one thing. I apologize to you, man, because you told me he was a coon. I've been trying to I was trying to, you know, dance around him because I thought he made some good points here and there, but he really cooned out and I guess because he's a Disney puppet now.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's exactly what he is. And it's crazy because it's like I understand, like yo get your money, but at the end of the day, you got to be a man. Like the people that put you in this position, they expect you to be a man and stand up, like, like, like. We was the. We was the ones reading your articles and hyping you up and watching first take and watching your shows, like now, and now that you got to a certain level, it's like I don't care about the brothers and the sisters that was always riding with me. Only thing I care about is these white corporate dollars. That's the definition of a coon. Definition of a coon.

Speaker 4:

And just the crazy part about him is I couldn't see how he just and he was so passionate about this, but and again, this is something that I went along with him because I didn't agree with Kyrie Irving but you ripped into Kyrie Irving like it was something crazy and now this dude said stuff that Kyrie Irving never said. Kyrie Irving just watched the video and you sitting here, you know ripping this dude apart, like you know rip, rip Kyrie Irving apart like you know, crazy, but this.

Speaker 3:

We're held to a different standard than everybody else and it and it, really it burns me up on the inside like I. I really have a fundamental issue with it because it's like yo, yo. Why aren't our prominent people in our society this Black? Why aren't they standing up? Because I can't be the only person to see this.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it's terrible, man, it's terrible. It's been a few good, I guess, ministers that have said some things. They really went in. But then there's others that, just like I heard the one minister, what's his name? Walton. First of all, let's say this because J-Rob disagreed with us.

Speaker 3:

Where's Farrakhan at?

Speaker 4:

Be honest with you. Farrakhan's been very conservative in the last couple years. Farrakhan might say something that might shock you. Be honest with you. Farrakhan might say something that's shocking. I'm telling you that if you can find a video of.

Speaker 2:

Farrakhan on YouTube.

Speaker 3:

I'm just saying where's the militancy? We're not going to fall for anything. You got these buffooning niggas that sit here and listen to these, these peddlers, and will actually just agree with it, like no, we can't, as a people, sit here and just take this. I don't agree with anybody, and not just black people, white people, see, because either y'all are part of the solution or you're part of the problem. We're not the only ones to see this nonsense going on, but because it's not affecting your community, you're really not saying nothing, but the younger white people are actually coming out in droves and have an issue with this stuff.

Speaker 2:

And then to your point. I know you wanted to touch on Patrick Wooten. Bishop Wooten, he's disgusting.

Speaker 4:

He's disgusting. Well, hold on. Let me just clarify some of what he said.

Speaker 2:

Actually, I have it right here oh you got it.

Speaker 4:

But we can't listen to the whole thing because it's too much.

Speaker 2:

No, I'm not going to listen to it. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to read the actual transcript. Okay, go ahead. So just some bullet points on what was said during that particular sermon at Wooten's Church. He called Charlie Kirk's killing an assassination and said it was a huge moral tragedy. That's one thing.

Speaker 4:

Can I say this to you? Yeah, I just want to stop you. I know you're going to get in. Only reason I want to say this is that I and we don't agree, but J-Rob does, but, and we don't agree but J-Rob does, but we don't agree with nobody killing nobody. You know what I mean. I don't Because I think some people were saying that on the last thing we sent out, that they thought we was insensitive or whatever, like that, and don't get me wrong. Like I said, I feel like we said enough, but just to say that we don't mean for nobody to die, you know what I mean, and in fact we have more people that actually you know we had a few people.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, we have more people that agree with us Understood.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, this is my thing. It's not that I wanted the nigga to get shot, it's that I don't care. The tragedy is these children being killed. The tragedy are these black people being killed by police in the street in cold blood.

Speaker 4:

That's tragedy, cause it's rhetoric Right.

Speaker 3:

Right.

Speaker 2:

And I see what you're saying.

Speaker 3:

Cause he ran his mouth and he couldn't stand on it. The thing is is that he got killed by another white person. That's why don't white crime.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So it's like I get what you're saying. It's like more If we took that passion and put it in more issues that's going on out here. You know what I mean, as opposed to being kind of condemned for speaking about things that he said. That's on record. You know what I mean. That was very inflammatory and crazy. So, getting back to what you were saying, your points about Wooten, he also described Kirk as a man of God. Quote unquote Wooten urged the Christian community and the church to respond with grace. He also made a point about love. God is love, but love is not God. I don't get that one. Let me read that again. He said God is love, but love is not God.

Speaker 3:

He's talking about both sides of the mouth, yeah he's a nut job and he's also said a tremendous man of God was assassinated, and this is from one of.

Speaker 2:

that was from one of the videos. He said he didn't die, he was murdered.

Speaker 4:

Part of a longer statement that was emphasizing it, so I mean just the fact that it was some sort of political execution, or Well then they got shot because he was running his mouth, talking about some people that he shouldn't have been talking about. And he had the nerve in that. You know to sum up what he was kind of saying, like forget about everything he was actually saying. My daughter and my son got a personal relationship with him. They know that he's not a racist.

Speaker 2:

Are you nuts? He was saying that his daughter, I guess his daughter, son-in-law, whatever was a part of Turning Point, which was Charlie Kirk's organization.

Speaker 4:

Basically, he's getting laced up somehow, somebody making some money off of that hustle or whatever the case may be it has to be Another coon, yeah, total coon.

Speaker 4:

Like come on, man, and you know from the posts on Facebook and stuff like that I've been dealing with this week, man, it's like I get tired of black people and white people telling me stupid stuff, like his stuff was taken out of context. I literally went on what you see him doing. I said, listen, I'll send you a YouTube video of everything that he's actually saying. It's not taken out of context. He's talking to you. He's telling you that the Civil Rights Act was a mistake. He's telling you Martin Luther King was off. You know what I mean? He's telling you these things.

Speaker 3:

I had a conversation with a family member and they was trying to tell me they literally telling me the things that I'm telling them that this man said was taking out of context, Like I mean, like I felt so disappointed. Yes, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4:

Like, come on, Are you that stupid? Like for real. But you know what, though? I'm going to tell you something right now. This is going to show you the power of the internet. These people are hypnotized, man.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, man.

Speaker 4:

These people are hypnotized. Man Like you're like what do you mean? Like me, and you are talking right now, what do you mean? If you take a bits and pieces, I could see if you manipulated something I said or whatever like that. But if you took out a large part of what I'm saying to you right now, took out a large part of what I'm saying to you right now, and then you say later on, you're taking what Andre said out of context. I'm telling you right now I thought it was wrong for the man to get shot, especially in front of his family On the other side of it. He was a horrible individual man. He was a horrible individual. He was a young and you're going to think this is crazy. I read Mein Kampf, I read, I read Mein Kauf. I did my homework on Adolf Hitler. He was a very stylish person, like a young Adolf Hitler.

Speaker 2:

That's how he started out. Is the words you're looking for?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, he was just like him. You know, that's how he started out Smooth talk, smooth speech. He got some people to put some money behind him. He started telling people these Jews are the problem with Germany, this is why Germany can't stand up. So, with that and putting money in the hands of the Germans and helping them, it was easy for them to say, well, he helping us, the money's behind us, we don't really care about these Jews. Anyway, let's go ahead and burn, you know, let's go ahead and take these Jews to the tank.

Speaker 3:

In my opinion, charlie Kirk wasn't a smooth talker. He, he, he was just another little ignorant white man operating in white privilege. He talked very arrogant, he talked down to people.

Speaker 4:

He wasn't really charismatic, he was just white well, when I say that, to me it seems very simple. I'm saying to that base that's I believe, honestly speaking, that's really what they wanted anyway. Yeah, this is the person that they want to speak anyway. You know what I mean. Things that he said they probably been wanting to say for years, but they wasn't man enough to come out and say it. And he's saying it. But again, adolph Hitler was no genius, you know what I mean. He was just somebody that spoke to a base of people that was already willing to hate anyway, that's pretty much the same thing he was doing.

Speaker 3:

I told y'all before man and y'all thought I was joking. I said what is the American public going to do when he say he not leaving office?

Speaker 2:

And that's what I'm getting at. It's like say again, and it brings it back to your Because if he decides to do that, let's just play hypothetical. What if? All right, playing what if? So what if he decides, I'm not leaving office.

Speaker 4:

You know what I mean America's over America's, over America's over.

Speaker 2:

But would that come with just the easing in, or would that take a revolution? You know what I mean. So it's like it's over now.

Speaker 3:

Just a few weeks ago they had council members and council representative members. They had to flee because they were going to get locked up.

Speaker 2:

America's finished, but do you think we have that point. This is what I'm getting at.

Speaker 3:

Do you think we have that point where this man pretty?

Speaker 2:

much wants to slap a crown on his head and says I am the king of.

Speaker 3:

America. I am king of America.

Speaker 2:

Yes, we are so like say, all right. So, with that being said, again, we see the takeovers of these major cities. We see what's going on with the FCC. We see that, you know, free press ain't free, no more. Speech ain't free, no more. You know what I mean. What is the actual? What do you think, in your opinion, would be the actual way?

Speaker 4:

The only people can combat that is black, brown and some of these white liberals working together. That's the only way. I mean, as far as America is concerned, do I believe that it's over? Nah, I still think I got to see how this pans out. Don't get me wrong. I'm like you. I'm looking at it and I'm saying it's a lot of wild garbage going on. I believe that it's like done where you know it can't be, like straightened out, because I'm thinking right now, even like I'm seeing within the last couple of days, there's more people now Like wait a minute, hold on, this is going too far going too far.

Speaker 2:

Even people within his base is speaking against his whole situation.

Speaker 3:

Let me tell you why it's over. He's been, and his base and the people around him have been doing nothing but lying. And there are people the people that they're because they're not just talking to their base, they're talking to Americans. There are Americans that believe the lies and they're not smart enough or they don't have enough critical thinking skills to actually be able to find out the truth through those lies. They actually believe that crap that they're saying, the stuff that they're being indoctrinated with. They believe it. That's why America's over.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I believe that they believe it, but I also believe and again.

Speaker 4:

I stand a chance of possibly being corrected that I still believe that there's. I'll say this I don't think nobody cares what happened to Black and brown people in America. I'm not saying not all white people, not all white people. I'm not saying that's not all white people, not all white people, but I'm saying that there's a heavy base of white people that don't care about our. They don't care about what goes on with us. And then I believe there's a large portion of white America. That's what they consider white moderate. I don't think they hate Black people, I don't think they hate brown people, but I think they just are happy with the status quo.

Speaker 4:

Whatever thing will make things just go smooth. You know what I mean. I think that's what it is. But I think now the problem is it's not a black and brown problem. He's actually stepping on white people's toes. You know what I mean. Like he's stepping on the white liberal base where it's like I do believe that and I say this all the time there's white people that believe in America. I don't necessarily believe in it, but there's white people believe in that constitution. They believe in you know, like you said, standing up for the flag and all that other stuff like that. So I think that's what I probably still hold on to that those people will stand up and do something about it. That's what I'm thinking.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, so in terms of like, I don't think they're going to just roll over like that, and I could see that right now, even like. I think, just like, maybe, maybe, like in the last couple of weeks, I think everybody was scared to say anything about Trump. Now, if you notice, in the last three or four days now, it's like people like saying, wait a minute, hold on a minute. You know comedians coming out, different people that can, you know, change something. You know what I mean. It's like wait a minute. Even some of his you know, republican Party members are now saying like you can't take free speech away from people. Because I think one of the important things that what's the guy DAL Hughley said is like you know, what you have to be careful is like you are Republicans and y'all have the ball right now. What happens when a Democrat has the ball and he decides that he wants to dominate y'all the same way? You know what I mean. So I think that was something important to say.

Speaker 3:

Democrats may not have the ball again. You might be right.

Speaker 2:

And also too, I think, even in terms of the things that's happening with these news stations and you know late night shows, whatever it is, you got to hold a lot of these corporations accountable too, because it seems to me and just in watching the news as of late, he has a lot of these you know corporations in his pocket.

Speaker 3:

That's the thing, right. So that was part of the conversation that I was having earlier Not earlier, but I was talking to somebody. I was telling them that Trump has told these colleges that if they have those DEI people or you know, not immigrant, but if you have Blacks or Hispanics, come and speak, that we're going to take your funding. The only people that you are allowed to have here to come speak is people like charlie kirk and, at first, some of the colleges buck, but they realized that they would. They would lose everything and they need this government funding yeah, but that's the.

Speaker 4:

That's the thing that a lot of people are starting to, um, even uh, talk in Washington about. Whether or not they can change it or not, I don't know, but they're starting to buck now Like wait a minute, hold on, man. Like you're putting yourself in a situation where you're above reproach, like nobody can say anything about you. This is getting ridiculous.

Speaker 2:

And that's called a dictatorship.

Speaker 3:

at this point, Like you can't, but it's been that way.

Speaker 4:

I don't mean to say nothing new, I think, for him. I won't say that. I'll say in the past year, since he got in office, that's how it's been.

Speaker 3:

We forget about how bad it was when he first was president Because of that nonsense. He was so bad that the Democrats felt like they could pander to us, like if you don't vote for us, then you ain't Black, because y'all niggas can't be voting for him.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I agree with you on that, Come on. But I think again, I think that was the thing, that kind of like and this is where it goes back to what I was saying before I think he, when you're talking about black and brown, which he was before, he had no respect for us before and I think when he started stepping on the toes, I believe that's how he lost the second presidency. You know what I mean, Because he was stepping on the toes of you know, people's actual rights. You know what I mean. Honestly speaking, I'm going to tell you the issue. I believe that what happened with Kamala Harris and Biden is that simply this Is that they did nothing for four years.

Speaker 3:

They did nothing for four years, man. And that's another thing, man, and this is why I don't believe in none of the system at all I don't believe in politics, period.

Speaker 3:

I don't believe in the system at all, because of this. When they say that Barack was in there, he was trying to do things, they kept saying the Republicans kept filibustering him and wouldn't allow him to do things. But when Donald Trump want to do something, he gets that done, no matter what. I don't care if Corey, whatever his name is stand up in a thing and want to talk for 36 hours. Nobody cares. Nobody cares.

Speaker 4:

Forget that, get it done. But I think also too and again, I'm not a big, huge person on politics, as of late, but I think the whole point is that the Republicans are in the House and that's the reason why they're saying that he's able to push the things that he are able to push. But again it goes back to what I was saying before. With this whole thing, man, it scares me. It scares me the way it's going, the way it's looking. But I think what happened before is this maybe might be the same thing that happened now. He's stepping on people's civil white people's civil liberties and that's, I believe, got him out of office and that's what got Kamala Harris and Biden in the office.

Speaker 4:

And when I say Kamala Harris and Biden didn't do anything, I'm just saying, first of all, to be honest with you, kamala was in office all this time. I didn't know. I didn't know what Kamala did for four years. I'm being honest with you. You know what I mean and I'm not trying to take because some people listen to this and they'll be saying like you're taking flight on the system. I don't know what she did. And as far as Biden is concerned, you know the four years that he was in there. This is me personally.

Speaker 4:

This is how I feel out of my pocket. I don't know what happened.

Speaker 3:

I don't know what happened to everybody else. You're down to real Stephen A Smith-ish right now. Man Huh, Down to real Stephen A Smith-ish.

Speaker 4:

No, listen to what I'm saying to you. I'm not saying that you know. I mean I don't care how bad he did. I'm just saying that you know, during my, during that time I my money, you know, I invest my 401k, all that other stuff like that Didn't do well under that situation, man. This is being honest. You know what I mean and I think that's the problem. Where it's like almost bloods and crips with this Democratic and Republican thing, where you can't call out wrong on either side, I can be objective and say what I want to say.

Speaker 3:

They're two sides of the same coin.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, well, that's what I'm saying. I can speak to Black people and I see how they're like starch Democrats. You know what I mean. No matter how stupid or how lackluster a Democrat might seem to you for years, you just keep voting this person back in office.

Speaker 3:

This is the thing Republicans right now are actually. They're going against the fundamental views of what Republicans are. Republicans are supposed to be less government, less government intrusion, less laws, basically to say that you can't do stuff. That's what the Republicans are about. But now, with this new Republican Party, Donald Trump has come in and said forget all that, I'm going to intrude in everything.

Speaker 4:

I think they still talk the less government thing and stuff like that. But, like you said, I think his's still trying to. I think they still talk the less government thing and stuff like that. But, like you said, I think his thing is just more, just not even. It's not even about more laws, it's about more, more of his dominance. I don't think you care about all the other stuff, it's just more about what I want to do. I mean kind of like, could you imagine? I mean, if they don't straighten out this issue with the media and with you know, being able to voice your opinion against him, he's going to be probably like the first president in office, whereas, like you can't say nothing about him.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I mean that's.

Speaker 4:

I mean, if there's the opportunity for him to get a second term, he's going to automatically get it, because you can't say nothing about him not getting a second term. This is yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, go ahead it, because you can't say nothing about him not getting a second time this isn't I mean third time by law, it's over.

Speaker 3:

By law, it's over.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and it's crazy because you had a lot of people who actually were like I guess you can say cancelled or fired Like. It's so crazy right now and I didn't even bring this point up is that the influence of this situation is so hard and so impactful that people who are not even celebrities are getting fired from their jobs for having an opinion on this thing you know like you're losing you know, you have educators, you have people that are in government official positions and all, and they might put out a tweet or something, something that this guy actually said and said this was not correct or this is not right, and they're getting fired.

Speaker 2:

You know what I mean Losing whole careers over this thing. But I also wanted to ask, man, before we get ready to wrap, it's like, where do you think it goes from here, man? Like, what's next? Do you see, like people who do actually say something about this dude getting put in some type of prison?

Speaker 3:

or camp. Yeah, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2:

Like something crazy.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I mean, I'm going to be honest with you, man. I think right now they're showing us what they're doing. They're rolling out this military into these cities and they're not doing that just to. That's the prerequisite of something.

Speaker 2:

And I agree with that, because even when I look at a lot of the stuff that's going on right now and you and I talked offline, jay, and talk about how you know, um, charlie kirk's funeral was this weekend and I seen on the news where they were saying like they're they're beefing up security because they've been getting so many threats quote unquote about you know, people acting up at funeral and it's almost as if, like you said to your point man like you anticipating something happening, because if something happened at this man's funeral, some group is going to be blamed for it. You know what I mean. And when they do get blamed for it, this is where you're going to see this whole thing really, really spiral out of control. You know what I mean.

Speaker 3:

I'm just glad it ain't us Well that's the thing, brother.

Speaker 2:

That's what we talked about. Yeah, they might try to connect it back to us somehow.

Speaker 3:

What I mean is that I don't see us going out there and doing anything in public for this. I don't see us going out there like yo. I don't see us going out there like yo. I don't think there's a nigga in America that would think it's a good idea to show up at that funeral. I disagree, I disagree. I think you're going to see a lot of it.

Speaker 2:

I think you will. Based upon what you've seen on this internet, I believe that people I'm talking about somebody that wants to do something malicious.

Speaker 3:

Oh, okay, I'm not talking about the baboons that want to go there and kiss the ring, and kiss his feet and do all that. They are the type of niggas. That would actually the Harriet Tubman would have left, but she would have killed him.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, but I could go on and do that with that. Not today, Hopefully. What's the name they were talking about? They were preparing for Antifa and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2:

Yeah yeah, and, like I told you, jay offline, since he deemed them a terrorist organization. And understand this man, these government officials, how they provide coutures man, they send somebody in there. Antifa doesn't really technically have a head of it. You know some type of structure so you can say anybody is Antifa, you know what I mean. And if you send somebody out there, they cut up.

Speaker 3:

That could be the setup for the distraction that's the other one.

Speaker 3:

I don't believe. I don't believe that everything is what it is. I think, because of all the nonsense that come along with this, everything about this case says that, hey, this ain't right From him. You know from the text messages from him. Breaking down the rifle, hopping down the roof, roof and then reassembling the rifle, that sounds insane. I don't think anybody with any type of weapon would ever do anything like that, especially when you're when your adrenaline is flowing because you supposedly just shot somebody. Why are you going to break down a rifle, hop off the roof and then put the rifle back together? What sense does that make? You want to break down a rifle, hop off the roof and then put the rifle back together and then throw it away? What?

Speaker 2:

sense does that make Right me if I'm wrong, he's been in custody. He's been in custody for what Like about a week now or something like that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Did you hear him make any statement or any update on that, oh? They're not going to love him Exactly, and that's what I'm saying. It's like last I heard he wasn't there, he didn't talk.

Speaker 4:

You will never hear his voice again.

Speaker 2:

And that's what I'm concerned, because now we done moved over to you know we built in a ballroom.

Speaker 4:

We won't hear his voice. We will not see his court case. You'll never know what's going to?

Speaker 3:

happen, that's what I'm saying and his father got a million dollars to turn this on him. But you know like you said.

Speaker 4:

It's crazy, because that's one thing that I've been looking at too. It's like you don't know what to believe. You know what I mean. Like who's involved with what? I even think sometimes when speaking to black people, um, online, or well, online, definitely. Or even seeing some of these media people talk about charlie kirk like a, like a good person, like I'm like, are you in pocket? Like what are you? Or are you a bi? Am I speaking to AI? You know what I mean.

Speaker 4:

Like I don't understand for the life of me how a Black person can uphold somebody. I mean, forget about everything else. He just said Everything he said in life the fact that the man said the civil rights movement was a mistake. You know what I mean. I don't know how any black person in America can go along with that at all and uphold you in any way possible. You know what I mean, especially those who are sitting on these doggone news outlets and stuff like that, because the only reason you're sitting there and I'm not saying that has anything to do with your intelligence or anything like that, because the only reason you're sitting there and I'm not saying that has anything to do with your intelligence or anything like that. It don't have anything, you know, because white people play that and say, well, you know, that's what you're saying. It's about his intelligence, he shouldn't be there, but he's there. No, you were intelligent enough to get there, but you're there. But just because they had to meet a quota, we the quota.

Speaker 3:

We were always good enough. Y'all never gave us a fresh chance.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he was always.

Speaker 3:

That's what it was. We asked to actually get a shot.

Speaker 2:

Even the thing you said about the Black pilots, like you know, I gotta wonder if they qualify. You've had Black people go to space, brother, not just fly a plane, fly off the planet.

Speaker 3:

I'm gonna be honest, I don't believe that space thing. But that's what I'm going to be honest, I don't believe that space thing.

Speaker 4:

But that's what I'm going to say. Well, you know, it's kind of crazy when you say the things that he says, because you know, when you're looking back on it, like we are the inventors, black people are the, you know, I mean I'm not trying to sit here and you know, say black is better than white and all this other stuff like that. But black people have, how can you say like I would be worried about a Black pilot or I would be worried about a Black doctor? A Black doctor was the one who created heart surgery. You know what I mean. You know, when you look back on it, these people have made like some wonderful inventions in life.

Speaker 2:

Contributions to society.

Speaker 3:

Contributions to society as a whole. White people steal it and then create laws and say that it's theirs.

Speaker 2:

So the US Patent Office.

Speaker 4:

Well, I mean, that's filled with a bunch of black people's ideas.

Speaker 3:

I don't even really know much about this system to either like or one way or the other, but I heard Lizzo talking about them, copyright rules, and how they actually didn't exist when Elvis was doing this thing and he stole all Chuck Berry's work. And then all of a sudden, copyright rules and you can't sample nobody else's music.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, man, what white people did to black people in music is so horrible, it's crazy. Like if you go back to music now you know how YouTube throws up every now and then and you listen to the Beach Boys and then you listen to Chuck Berry, they stole the whole riff. They just completely stole the whole beat and changed the song. You know what I mean?

Speaker 3:

They said Hound Dog is his whole vibe, word for word.

Speaker 4:

Wow you know what I mean. Again, man, it's just a lot of wild garbage going on right now. Again, I got to be optimistic and think it ain't over.

Speaker 3:

It's the nature of the white man. We just sat here and pointed out all these things and you still trying to deny it. You look, you start to act like I'm going to call you Stephen A Dre man.

Speaker 2:

Whoa.

Speaker 4:

Let me tell you how it is, man, and I'll say this to you, man, when it comes to me again, you know, when it comes to the religious aspect of things, man, I actually just believe I just can't condemn people, man, because I don't want to be condemned. You know what I mean. I want to see the good in everybody, man, you know what I mean. I'm not saying that people are not wrong. You're not gonna get me to come up here and say, like you know white folk, uh, you know the devil, or anything like that, but I can pinpoint a person that did something wrong I know that ain't all white people ain't trying to, you know, but the majority of them are.

Speaker 3:

And I say that because these laws still exist. They keep us underneath the boot. They're not. They're not really fighting to change those things.

Speaker 4:

Well, again, that's what I said, man, and that's what I believe the overall problem is is that I believe that there are good white people, man, and I believe that there's good people all over, but I think the problem is in life is that people are complacent. You know what I mean. This is something I've been on heavy lately. The white moderate, the white moderate's ideology is like listen, I just want to go to work every day. You know what I mean. I don't want to deal with the George Floyd thing. You know what I mean because you got to deal with it, because that's the way we can move forward and make things better. But I think that you know, like you said, like Martin Luther King was saying, like the white moderate is a very is worse than the racist in the sense because they're just happy with life going on as usual. Not only that the white moderate.

Speaker 3:

You don't really know where you stand with them. They don't tell you all the right things in your face, but behind your back they're going to be saying, yeah, that's a good nigga.

Speaker 4:

But I'll say this, man, but I'll say this also too man Very articulate, I've met, you know I was in the military, so I've met wonderful, wonderful Caucasian brothers, man, that were probably more radical than you are towards the system. You know what I mean. I met a lot of different people in different areas, man. That's why I can't be racist. I just can't be. There ain't anything in me to do.

Speaker 3:

You can't be racist because you're black, but I understand where you're coming from.

Speaker 2:

We're going to have to open that topic up. Yeah, man. On that yard line for a minute, bro, corporation-wise. I mean, this ain't about just Jimmy Kimmel, this is about in general. You know what I mean.

Speaker 4:

Well, I already see. I didn't mean to cut you off, but I already see, as of right now, I think it was something that just popped up online. It's like, I think, whatever station it was, what is it? Abc? Abc, yeah, disney, they're saying they're coming together to work something out. So I don't know what the workout will be, but they might be getting pressure now. And let me say this too I'm turning off Disney.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I was going to say the chick from She-Hulk I'm turning off Disney.

Speaker 4:

I'm down with that man, I'll be honest with you and I'm going to disrespect Disney anyway. The only reason I watch it is because they still got the X-Men on it. I'm a crazy X-Men fan. I sit there and watch X-Men all day, man. The rest of the Disney channel is trash.

Speaker 3:

I ain't going to lie, black show out right now on hulu called reasonable doubt stars. A wonderful, wonderful black cast. I love it.

Speaker 4:

And the new season just came out and I'm not gonna tell me you're gonna sell out man I still watch football.

Speaker 3:

I'm still watching to get off oh wait, wait yo.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, we didn't talk about that yeah, I still yeah, um about again. I want to make this to Charlie Kirk, our man, but we did not talk about that how the NFL teams pay tribute to him.

Speaker 4:

To Charlie Kirk. Yes, he did a moment of silence. He got a moment of silence.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I mean it's crazy, all right.

Speaker 4:

They had the nerve to tell us that they didn't want to be political during the Kaepernick thing. Right, but what was the slogan? Like Don't be political play ball or some crazy garbage like that no it was some little nonsense.

Speaker 3:

Basically, shut up nigga and play ball.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah. So let's just run down right. So this is what they said. It was like a few teams that honored or paid tribute to Charlie Kirk the Green Bay Packers, the New York Jets, dallas Cowboys. Now, if this is some of y'all- favorite teams.

Speaker 4:

Folks, you might want to check the temperature. It might be easier, just saying the ones that didn't do it.

Speaker 2:

All right, let's go. I wanted to put everybody on blast.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, because it's only like five. That didn't.

Speaker 2:

The only five that didn't Maybe a little bit more. It's five, it maybe a little bit more, but yeah, it's five, five, six, something like that now. But I want to put everybody on blast. That did, that did, and y'all in the comments can tell me if these are the same teams that gave y'all a hard time about kneeling. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

During the Kaepernick era, the green Bay Packers, definitely one New York jets, the Dallas Cowboys, the dolphins, new York Jets, the Dallas Cowboys, the Dolphins, the Saints, the Titans, the Chiefs, the Cardinals and the Pittsburgh Steelers, as well as the Buffalo Bills. Now, the teams that did not was the Bengals, the Lions, the Colts, the Vikings, the Ravens and, it says, the Houston Texans. They held a moment of silence but did not specifically name Charlie Kirk in it. Charlie Kirk in it, Choosing. Instead a broader tribute to all the victims of violence and natural disasters. Now, he said the NFL initially mandated a moment of silence for the Packers versus Commanders game as a league tribute. For subsequent games, the league left the decision up to individual teams.

Speaker 2:

Now, I don't know about that man. Somebody went in the locker room and said, yo, we're going to nil for Charlie Kirk. And everybody said yeah.

Speaker 3:

It's disgraceful.

Speaker 4:

Where that goofy, where that crazy Jay-Z?

Speaker 3:

at.

Speaker 4:

The one that won a host of the halftime show every year and talk about how things got better with their relations with the NFL. And the NFL is the most racist group of men, that old boy network that run that whole thing. That's why you can't get a. If you're black or Hispanic, you can't even buy a franchise.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3:

You can't start letting niggas be quarterbacks.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and they said, on this one too, guys, let niggas be quarterbacks. Yeah, and they said on this one too, guys, check this out. They said that some teams paid tribute in ways that weren't widely reported or reported differently. They did visuals on screen, they lowered flags or more generic tribute. So absence of evidence isn't always absence of evidence so I mean they did it, and then it.

Speaker 4:

Let me just say this, man, so you know, because you always have these people out here that think they so intelligent, right? I don't know any Black owners in the NFL. I'm talking about real owners. Hold on, this is what I'm saying, because let me tell you what some people will do. They'll say that stupid garbage like Venus and Serena is owners of it. Most of these black people that have ownership in these organizations, these football, basketball organizations they only own like maybe a percent, if that, and a lot of times they just there. Just so you know, somebody could say we have, we have black owners in the NFL.

Speaker 2:

You know I mean that's it.

Speaker 4:

They don't actually really own and say nothing in regards to what goes on here. I would love to see how much Magic owns and the different things that he has, because I think it was Jay-Z that only owned like 1% of Brooklyn Nets or something crazy like that. Not even a whole percentage and they had him all up and down Brooklyn painted like he's the owner or whatever the case may be, and the owner probably could wipe his behind with Jay-Z's opinion, you know, at that time.

Speaker 2:

Okay, breaking news, two things I want to mention. This one just actually broke. But one thing I want to mention before I mention this particular news here Two teams that were not on either list, if y'all noticed this Ready the New York Giants and the Philadelphia Eagles. They just said look, we're going to sit this out. On both sides, we got our own issues over in New York.

Speaker 3:

I was real quiet because I'm like I've seen the five teams that didn't or the six teams that didn't.

Speaker 4:

What do they mean? They set it up.

Speaker 2:

They was not on any of these lists that I just quoted. Whether they didn't actually do it or not do it, they weren't on any of these lists. Now the other breaking news, and y'all might be a little bit upset about this Congress has just approved this is October 14th as Charlie Kirk's birthday a National Day of Remembrance for Charlie. So I don't know what we do on that day, because I do nothing. I'm telling you that right now.

Speaker 3:

But that's crazy yeah.

Speaker 2:

It said the Senate passed and the measure unanimously. On Thursday was Senator Rick Scott, republican of Florida, leading the effort. He noted that more than 20 senators joined him in support and resolution, which recognizes Kirk for his contributions to civic education and public service, and the measure encourages schools, civic groups and citizens to mark the day nationwide. House Speaker Mike Johnson said Thursday the chamber would follow suit and on Friday the House approved the resolution. Nearly 100 Democrats opposed it and Johnson told reporters the measure not only honored Kirk's life and work, but also condemns the political violence that led to his death, and this is reported by ABC News.

Speaker 3:

They should actually they should be disgusted with themselves. I hope, if any any black people actually participated and voted for that. I hope that their family shuns them.

Speaker 2:

Break the plate at the dinner table. The whole group.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, because where's Breonna? Taylor's day.

Speaker 2:

Where's Trayvon Martin's day, Brother? You know what? I could do a whole other show on this right now, but Tom permits me not to do it.

Speaker 4:

But yeah, this is crazy and I am the optimistic one, you know what I mean or trying to be the righteous one in this conversation, man, but you know, at this point, man and again I am going to follow it all the way out, but I'll say this, man, I think Sister Soul just said this one time man, like we are the good white people we are, it's time for y'all, the good ones, man, to stand up. Man, tell me, man.

Speaker 2:

That's what I've been saying the whole time.

Speaker 4:

I remember watching the thing about Black Lives Matter and I've got my issues with that as a whole overall, looking at the whole Black Lives Matter. But I remember watching, you know, black Lives Matter and seeing like white people protesting with black people and I was like man that looked good, you know, just watching it visually, you know what I mean. It was just a good feeling to see that. You know, it wasn't just, it was equal out there man, you know, especially in New York and stuff like that man and them saying, good, white people need to come out, man, and start stopping this garbage. Man, I mean, this is a slap in the face to black people.

Speaker 2:

You want to hear something real crazy. George Floyd's birthday is on October 14th. They should have the same birthday.

Speaker 4:

This is a slap in the face to black people, man. Forget about all the other stuff he said was horrible man. A lot of things he said was horrible, man, but you know a lot of things he said was horrible. But the fact that you're gonna say, like you know, the civil rights movement was a mistake is is like crazy, bro, crazy. And then you know I just going to this guy again man, you think to yourself white people dominate america, man, they dominate it. How much more do you want to dominate it? How much more? I mean to see this guy, you would think that we're winning Black people not winning in this America. Brown people ain't winning in this America, man, how much more do y'all want to dominate people of color, man? I mean and I'm not talking to all of y'all, I'm talking to the ones that really back this guy how much more do you want to dominate people, man?

Speaker 2:

It's just ridiculous that you even allow this to happen when you think of so many figures that could have got If you want to give them a National Day of Remembrance, that could have got, you know, if you want to give them a National Day of Remembrance. My question is is like say, if you want to do this for civic matters and schools and all that jazz, what do you teach them about Charlie Kirk?

Speaker 2:

You know like how does this work? You know what's crazy? He get a National Day of Remembrance right. September 11th happened, which they do have a National Day of Remembrance, but it was not like a national, if you want to call it a holiday, because people died. But you know what I mean? That's something that was never even thought about to say, well, let's make that a national holiday or you know you're not giving it to. You would never see a national.

Speaker 4:

Malcolm X Day or something. You know what I mean. Listen, man, some people will talk bad about Malcolm X and again, I'm not a Muslim. But let me tell you something about that man. Malcolm X is a wonderful American story and I'm going to tell you why he's a wonderful American story. Here's a person that grew up as a hardcore racist, had every reason to hate white people you know what I mean and then somehow went to Mecca, had a religious, you know epiphany, if you want to say that, and came back and changed his whole views in regards to you know how he deemed white people and stuff like that, or deemed anybody that wasn't black.

Speaker 4:

You know what I mean? That's a wonderful American story, like you said, and the fact that he don't have like some sort of day here, and and here's the crazy thing about Malcolm A lot of y'all refuse to forget his past exactly, and that's why I was going to go with it too.

Speaker 2:

You're not gonna.

Speaker 4:

You're not gonna let go what he said in the past and that's what you tend to focus on the man literally lost his life, man, because he gave up his views, his, his other views that he had. I mean. I mean it's a lot of you know sticky stuff going on with that in the background too.

Speaker 3:

With everything in history, they do use your past against you, right? They use that as a track record to say the person that you are or going to be. So why aren't we justified? No, so I am justified when I say that Charlie Kirk is a piece of trash. Based upon the way that he lived and the things that he said in his history, he's a piece of trash.

Speaker 2:

But this piece of trash has got a National Day of Remembrance, which is crazy. I won't be celebrating it, oh no, that's something that Columbus gave to me.

Speaker 3:

I was about to say something real crazy, but I'm not going to do that.

Speaker 4:

I'll tell you how much I would hate that day. I would go to work on that day. I would go to work. If it fell on a Monday, I'd go to work.

Speaker 2:

You know what's crazy. If they actually gave you a day off for that, that would Listen. I hope that day will be filled with protests and people standing up against injustice and things like that. Don't use it as a day to celebrate bigotry.

Speaker 3:

They're not teaching children the history of the black man in America anymore, but you want to teach them about Charlie Kirk by giving them a national.

Speaker 2:

I just want to see, because the thing here doesn't go into context. So I got to do my diligence, since we're about to wrap the show up, but I got to see exactly what entails happens on a National Day of Remembrance for Charlie Kirk. What do you do? What do you do? I mean because you're not going to go out here and spread the rhetoric. So I mean what do you? Do Break Martin Luther King statues or something Like. What do you do? Like you know what I mean.

Speaker 3:

That's another thing.

Speaker 4:

They are re-erecting those Southern statues down here, Even Trump trying to bring back them racist fort names. You know what I mean, Like Fort Bragg.

Speaker 2:

I told you man Fort Bragg got the name back. I don't even know, I didn't.

Speaker 4:

I saw something where he mentioned everything in the thing I was watching, but Bragg, so I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they brought it back, man, but they tried to name it as another Bragg or whatever, but we already know what that's about. Yeah, that's sad, but yeah, guys, I'm going to wrap this one up, man, it's the good white people man.

Speaker 4:

Do something good about this man. Stop, you know, going along to get along man.

Speaker 2:

You know what I mean, because this is sad man, and not even just white people, black and brown people, Black brown everybody, man, this is injustice, Because what happens is something like when I played that clip of the comedian Mark Maron Y'all right behind us. He gave that. He gave that. Take on it, right, yo. Once we let this one go you know what I mean Everything else is coming after that man. You know what?

Speaker 2:

I mean so it's like every little inch that you let go, whether it be like city occupation by the military national guard, uh, freedom of speech, I don't care, listen, go ahead.

Speaker 3:

Jimmy Kimmel's a Jew.

Speaker 2:

Jimmy Kimmel's a Jew Right, but listen and I'm glad that you mentioned his name because I would say this, Like you said, they were, I guess, having discussions about it because he went to see his lawyers the other day. That's probably why they're having a discussion and they know that this is about to end up having Disney lose revenue if people really start doing what? What's the name? Tatiana Maslany said, Like canceling that Disney Plus and all that stuff like that. This is a person who was in a Marvel movie telling you to cancel it.

Speaker 4:

I'm canceling mine.

Speaker 2:

So it's like it's going to start hitting them in the pocket Right. If Jimmy Kimmel and I hope that he, if he's able to hear this, and you have some integrity about you I would tell abc and disney keep your bag. I don't want it, you know. I mean because the integrity of it is, because, well, I mean not to cut you off man but it's, the reality tv is dead it's dead.

Speaker 2:

But I'm dealing in principle, you know. I mean because it's kind of like steven carl bear said man, is that you? I can't trust you to have my back if something goes left. When 60 Minutes and CBS paid Trump that back for whatever happened with that 60 Minutes interview with Kamala Harris, I can't trust the organization to have my back if they're going to do this.

Speaker 4:

The thing I don't understand with these guys man is like Camel, stephen A. Stephen A is the only reason that ESPN exists. Nobody watches ESPN for anything else. He doesn't know his worth and the fact that he goes up there and comb and I have to give Jimmy Kimmel this he stood on ten toes and did something.

Speaker 2:

All of them, all of them, late night cats standing on ten toes because they know.

Speaker 4:

This Jigaboo goes in, goes and he's the only reason that and you know, remember me, I was fighting for Stephen A man. You calling him cool before I was like man, nah, he's not a cool. That dude is up there talking this crazy garbage that he's talking. He's the only reason that anybody watches ESPN.

Speaker 2:

I don't watch ESPN for nothing else. He's doing that now because he got that political show and if you notice the backdrop of that show, they got the White House and the American flag and all that man.

Speaker 4:

when you watch the, comments of that little monologue that he did for himself. It's nothing but a bunch of racist white conservatives saying like oh yeah, I didn't pay attention to you before, but now I love your show, I'm going to subscribe. They want to see you, as an African American, get on there and do all kinds of cooning and flipping and all that other stuff. Like that man. You make him comfortable.

Speaker 3:

Stephen A is not aggressive, he's not threatening, he makes white people feel comfortable.

Speaker 4:

Not to mention his passion. I'm just thinking about all the different things that black athletes have done and he has ripped into them. Ripped into black athletes about, you know whatever they might have done wrong and he might have been completely right in most cases or some cases, but the fact, no, I mean I'm not saying there's some cases that you know people have done dumb things as athletes that he was right on. But the point that I'm making is is that you ripped into all of these people and then this kid comes up with this situation and, granted, like I said, nobody wants him to get killed, but, on the same token, you're not going to say nothing about his nasty past. Man, you crazy man.

Speaker 3:

Stephen A's past lets you know that he won't, because he don't have the same energy for the white athletes as he has for the black athletes. When they mess up, the white athlete might do something. You'll never hear him speak about it with the same type of ferocity that he speaks about when a black athlete does something.

Speaker 4:

I've seen him stand up on some things coming up. I've seen some things that he stood up on, but I just don't know how. Forget about his. This is how it's gotten that bad. I don't know how he let this go. Forget about everything else. You know what I mean. I'm just saying you know, whether it be white, black, whoever he got out in the past, this is not something that he should allow to go down like that. It doesn't make any sense, man.

Speaker 2:

It, don't? It don't? All right, guys? We truly got to wrap up now, man, but yeah, man. I got to tell you this last few minutes with this whole national thing threw me off.

Speaker 4:

It hurts, it hurts man.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to go wrap this up right now Just on a good note, though I want to end off on a really good note. I want to thank everybody who has recently subscribed to the channel. That last I like to call it conversation that we had, you know, a lot of engagement and that's what we encourage, and I know I don't have the brothers handle up right now, but it was a person who during that time, he had made a comment saying like it was some. It was a comment that he posted and he thought that we deleted the comment and we didn't. And I reached out to him. We don't delete comments on the show, whether they good or bad, whether they for us or against us, even if you criticize us as people. Man, I'm not deleting any comments here or whatever. He went back.

Speaker 2:

It was something that YouTube did, and so if anybody do post comments, youtube is having, was was having some type of issue where I wasn't even seeing the comments come up and they would pop up later, and so for that particular person again, I don't have your handle on me at this moment, but they did come back and apologize, even if they didn't agree with what we were saying. It's like now. You know, made a public statement saying that this channel don't delete comments, and all like that. So I want to say shout out to them Case handled it pretty good, man. Also, all of the conversation that went back and forth in the chats, man, you know that's what it's about. It's about having a conversation, whether we agree or disagree. You know what I mean. So we want to encourage y'all to keep that same energy when we drop this one, right, yeah, man. So yeah, just a takeaway y'all October 14th, they saying that's Charlie Kirk National Day of Remembrance. Please Do remember what he said.

Speaker 4:

That's what you do Get you a nice piece of watermelon.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, do remember to reflect on those statements about our people. Alright, Okay, the Only One. My Podcast is available on all major platforms that you stream your podcasts on, so wherever you at or wherever you listen at, that's where we are. Be sure to check out our YouTube channel to catch up on the past and current episodes. Please don't forget to rate the show, hit the subscribe button, share it all that good stuff.

Speaker 2:

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Speaker 4:

Time to get some watermelon and coons on Charlie Clark Day.