EP #10 | 100 Miles in under 24 Hours - Liam McVarnock

In this episode of the Texas Devil Running Talk Show, we are with Liam McVarnock from Halifax Canada. Liam is a personal trainer, endurance athlete and so much more. He talks about his 100-mile feat with almost no training. Tune in to hear what happened!

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SPEAKER_01 0:00

Hello, hello everyone. Welcome to the Texas Double Running Talk Show. This is your host, Briston Reigns, and today we have Liam who ran 109 miles in under 24 hours. How many kilometers is that again? It's like 170, right?

SPEAKER_00 0:13

176.

SPEAKER_01 0:14

176 kilometers. A lot of crazy stuff went down. There's a whole documentary on YouTube about it. It's amazing. Like I don't know who filmed it and edited it or do did all that, but they did an amazing job. So all that's gonna be in the description. But before we get to that, um, I did decide to start a Patreon. So if y'all want to donate like a couple dollars, like three dollars a month, you can now do that to help support the show. Um, so if you want to help me keep the show going, uh just click the Patreon in the link description. First time I'm ever doing this, excited about it. So if you want to do that, go ahead, link in the description. And also, we do have a sponsorship. Uh, it's Creed and Legal, so they're helping me get my LLC and my trademark. And they're in the first go area, but um, they can work pretty much anywhere online. So um make sure you go check out Creed and Legal. They're on Instagram, that's how I found them, and they're gonna give you your best legal advice for any business you have. So if you have any businesses, they're the place to go. Creed and legal guys. All right, so let's go ahead and get to Liam. Liam, go ahead and introduce yourself, tell us where you're from, and um tell us a little bit about the 100-mile trick.

SPEAKER_00 1:18

Uh hello everyone. My name is Liam McVarnick. I'm from Nova Scotia, Canada. Uh, if anyone doesn't know where that is geographically, it's basically northeast of New York. Um, I'm 24 years old. I'm a personal trainer. Um last summer in August, I ran or attempted to run 176 kilometers. Um, I won't spoil anything right now, but uh there was a lot of things that went down that day.

SPEAKER_01 1:44

Yeah, yeah, a lot of crazy things. And if you watch the documentary, you're just gonna be like, what? Like literally, it was like, I don't know. Uh we'll get to it. I don't want to I won't I don't want to do any spoilers, but um as we do before every show, I'll go over the main topics and the subtopics so you guys kind of know what we're gonna be talking about throughout the show. So uh main topic number one is why did you run 109 miles in under 24 hours? And what's your why? Main topic number two is did you train for this and how did training look? Main topic number three is what's the secret to being as mentally tough as you were? And then subtopics was how hard was it running 109 miles? When you this is gonna get to the spoilers a little bit. When you strained your knee with about 30 kilometers left to go, what went through your head? What was the moment like when you finished? How long did it take you to fully recover? And what's the next beat? So that's just a brief overview, and we'll go ahead and hop into the first main topic. So, why did you decide to do this? What was your why?

SPEAKER_00 2:44

Um, so for myself, I I come from a competitive sports background. So I played very high-level soccer, football, like American football. Um, but later in life, like I didn't have that challenge anymore. So I did an Iron Man triathlon in 2019. Um, I thought that would be my big challenge. It didn't end up being necessarily the challenge I thought it was gonna be. So once the new year came, I knew I wanted to do a hundred miler. I was obsessed with the whole culture of it. So it just made sense that we had to do a hundred miler.

SPEAKER_01 3:17

Yeah, yeah, that's awesome, man. And um, throughout the whole thing, um, what was kind of pushing you like so from start to finish, I forgot like when exactly it started hurting for you, but um, from start to finish, like there's a point to where like you had like a lot left to go and it was hurting. So, like, what was pushing you um when you were hurting?

SPEAKER_00 3:39

Um, the big thing was well, two two main things I would say. One, I was looking for like the wall that everyone talks about, or like that breaking point, and I truly did not believe I was there yet. So that was trying to get to that place was motivating because I knew I wasn't there yet. Uh, and then the contrast of that is I had so many people around me that were like helping, volunteering, keeping me going that like I couldn't let them down because they came out to support me, if it makes sense. So it wasn't even for me anymore, it was like for everyone around me.

SPEAKER_01 4:10

Yeah, yeah, that's awesome. I know a lot of people to where like they do a lot of races, and it's not even for them, like it gets to the point to where it's like for the people around them and the people that are like depending on them. So yeah, I think that's awesome though. Um, so did you train for this? And if you did, like how did you train for it?

SPEAKER_00 4:29

Uh I kind of trained for it. So uh over the winter, so the event happened in August. Uh starting in about January, I started training for a hundred-mile race. I worked with a coach. Uh, we were slowly building up each week by like more time on my feet, and it was trail running. Um, I got up to probably about four and a half hours on my feet by around the March time frame. And then coronavirus happened. I was supposed to head down to Utah for a race in April. That got canceled. So I kind of stopped training mid-March when coronavirus happened, and then I didn't start training again until July.

SPEAKER_01 5:08

Okay. And what was like the longest distance you've done before this?

SPEAKER_00 5:13

Uh it was I ran a marathon once, and it was in the Iron Man in 2019.

SPEAKER_01 5:18

Alright, so let me get this right. You you did uh uh marathon in Iron Man and then you did a little bit of training for this, but that's that's about it.

SPEAKER_00 5:29

Yeah, that's basically the gist of it.

SPEAKER_01 5:32

Wow, that's that's insane, man. And in fact, wait, so did you I think I I watched like majority of the documentary, but I got a little busy at the end. So did you end up like r actually running 100 n miles under 24 hours, or were you close, or what did that look like?

SPEAKER_00 5:47

Nah, so I didn't even so how far did I get? I got 151 in like 24 hours.

SPEAKER_01 5:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:55

Uh I got 147 on my own two feet, and then I got four more on crutches, and then after that, that took like almost two and a half hours on crutches 4K.

SPEAKER_01 6:06

That's crazy, man.

SPEAKER_00 6:07

And my leg was my legs were destroyed. Um, and by then, like my hands, they both blistered all across them from the crutches and my lats, everything was just blister. And it's like by by then it was so long, and everyone had been awake for like 30 hours that that's when I in the video people will see like that's when the kind of handoff happened, and my buddies finished the last 25k. I didn't even I couldn't finish it.

SPEAKER_01 6:32

Wow, man, that's insane. So, like, what was going through your head when you when you hurt your knee, and like how far did you have left?

SPEAKER_00 6:40

Uh when I hurt my knee, I thought it was just my body trying to reason with me, honestly. Because like, so from like the minute I crossed the first marathon, my body was giving me like fake injury signals every 2k. It'd be like, oh, your left foot is hurt, you should stop, and then it's your quad, and then it's oh, is that a pain in my knee? Like, hey, your body's just reasoning with you. So when it came up, I I'd been feeling that for like 14 hours, so I was like, this is just normal, and then it got worse and worse, and I was like, Oh, this is not normal. And I for the listeners that are wondering, like I also had a knee injury when I was 17 where I had two surgeries, so I had a good feeling of what a real knee injury felt like, and this was it wasn't nice.

SPEAKER_01 7:26

Yeah, yeah. I think they said in the doc documentary that you strained it or something, right?

SPEAKER_00 7:32

Uh I thought it was a strain. Now I uh medical expertise afterwards. I have two tears in my knee, in my meniscus. Um, so yeah, I I did did a good number on it.

SPEAKER_01 7:43

Oh, okay. Wow, that was crazy, man. And uh you ended up uh you said you you crushed four kilometers, right? Yeah, I crushed four kilometers. Uh man. Yeah, and to translate for people wondering, that's like about 2.6 or 7 miles. Um, I wouldn't ever do that. That's a long time, but man, kudos go out to you for doing that, man. That takes a lot of mental substance to do something like that. Um, but talking about mental toughness, what uh what was like your kind of secret for mental toughness? Like you pushed your body and your mind so far. Like, what was your secret sauce for something like that?

SPEAKER_00 8:23

Uh I don't know if there is a secret sauce for that. And like it like there was so much preparation that went in in the in like the four weeks it took us to plan this event. There was so many things that we did that like once it came grace day, I didn't need mental toughness because everything was already kind of planned out. So it's like everything down to like my salt pills were timed out every 15 minutes or 30 minutes. Like my food stops were like methodically planned, how many carbs I was gonna take in, all programmed to my watch, my pacer would check on me. He'd make sure I peed enough. What color was my pee? Like, so it's like for mental toughness, I didn't really all I needed to do was left, right, left, right, because everything else was outsourced.

SPEAKER_01 9:07

Yeah, yeah, I could see that. And um yeah, it's kind of like what David Goggins talks about. Like you just it's not something you think about, it's just something you do, you know. It's just one foot in front of the other, and that's what a lot of ultra owners talk about whenever they're doing like crazy 200 mile races or something.

SPEAKER_00 9:24

So yeah, and if I okay, if I'm gonna give you something tangible that your listeners could use, it's like when I was going aid station to aid station, there was like maybe 11 or 12, there it's a between uh six to 10 mile gap between eight stations. And instead of thinking at the aid station, oh, I have another 60 miles to go, which would be devastating, I'd think more along the lines of, okay, I have six mile, six miles until my next break and my next aid station where my family and friends are waiting. And in that six miles, I would break it down by like 15-minute barriers of like, oh, eight minutes till food or five minutes till salt pills, or like when I was really hurting, like, oh, I'll run until I see that tree two hundred meters ahead, then I can walk, take my salt pill, and then start running again. So just trying to break it down into smaller bits.

SPEAKER_01 10:16

Yeah, yeah, for sure. I think that's um you have to really break it down because I feel like people can get over over overwhelmed, you know, thinking like, oh, I have 50 more miles left to go. So yeah, I hear a lot of people talk about breaking it down, stuff like that. Definitely useful advice. I'm gonna go ahead and hop into some of the questions that we ask every guest. So, what's your biggest weakness?

SPEAKER_00 10:39

Uh that's a that's a broad question, my dude.

SPEAKER_01 10:43

Uh yeah, uh I mean, I guess what's your what's your biggest weakness um athletically or like running wise?

SPEAKER_00 10:52

Um well, I guess if I'm gonna go purely objectively speaking, maybe my knees. Um maybe maybe for me, if I'm gonna speak specifically for endurance sports, um a lack of experience, maybe because I always played like power sports and I lift weights. I walk around at like 5'10, like 190 pounds. I'm not a high body fat percentage, so I'm pretty thick dude. So it's like in the world that we're in, I don't think that weight helps me. Um, so maybe my knees maybe being too heavy, uh, and then like a lack of knowledge uh overall.

SPEAKER_01 11:36

Yeah, yeah, and I don't know what's going on with the knee thing. Like I said earlier before the show, like I'm struggling with the knee thing too, and it's just on and off. And I don't know what's up with all the knees. I know a lot of people have a lot of knee problems too, just from running and stuff. Um, so yeah, I don't know if we need to be drinking some more milk or what's going on there, but um Yeah, taking our screens and our dailies and stuff. Yeah, yeah. I mean, a lot of people talk about um like running on grass and running on softer surfaces and taking a break, and I've done all that, like I've done everything that online says, and it kind of works, but not really. Um, so yeah, I don't know. It's something our society's gonna have to figure out, they're gonna have to find out like a secret formula to fix knee problems.

SPEAKER_00 12:19

So you can just Google how to fix knee.

SPEAKER_01 12:23

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Um, so how long did it take you to like fully recover after this? Because like you ran like the most miles you've ever ran. So how long did it take you to like really fully recover?

SPEAKER_00 12:38

Fully recover, I'm not recovered right now.

SPEAKER_01 12:40

Um months, right? It's been like several months.

SPEAKER_00 12:44

Yeah, it's been like almost five months now. So we're December 23rd today, and it was August 1st. I ran the race. So um, yeah, like at least four and a half months or more. Um now to be like to feel human again, it took me like probably two and a half, three days. Like my brother is a medic, he was the guy in the video who was taking care of me. And for three days, like he had to help me put my pants on. Um, luckily, the place we were staying had a walk-in shower because I couldn't go upstairs, downstairs. Wow. I couldn't bend my legs, like my I was one big, my ankles were the size of avocados. Like it was I was I was I was hurting for a couple days.

SPEAKER_01 13:27

Yeah, that's crazy, man. Like that you could like push your body that far. I mean, David Goggins talked about when like his like feet were like bleeding and like his legs were like like he almost like died doing his first ever 100 mile races, no training or something like that. So yeah, dude, that's insane that you could like push yourself to where you come back and your ankles are the size of avocados and you could barely walk upstairs. Like that's that's crazy to me. Uh yeah. So um back. This is one of the last questions that I asked every every guest is where do you see yourself in a year?

SPEAKER_00 14:04

Oh, that's a good question. Um is this just like is this geographically speaking or like what I'm doing?

SPEAKER_01 14:13

Um it can be something like athletic-wise or like running-wise, um, or whatever you want it to be, really. It's totally up to you.

SPEAKER_00 14:24

So a year from now, I'm starting a YouTube show soon. So hopefully season one is out and we're filming season two, because season one is supposed to be filmed in September if my knee holds up. Uh so hopefully filming season two of my of my show. Uh, and then we would have just finished in this September next year's race. And then hopefully, geographically, I'm in like Costa Rica on a beach recover.

SPEAKER_01 14:50

Yeah, that's awesome, man. I'm excited that you're starting a YouTube channel. Are you gonna post like running or like Iron Man stuff on there or something like that?

SPEAKER_00 14:57

Or uh yeah, I'm gonna post like uh it's gonna be a uh it's gonna be a mixture of stuff, man. It there'll be videos of me, there'll be a series leading up to it's like an ultraman we're we're creating. So training for an ultraman, but also there there'll be probably videos of me eating spicy noodle challenges on the internet and like just working out, lifting weights, like whatever I want to post, I'm just gonna post it.

SPEAKER_01 15:21

Yeah, yeah, that's awesome, man. Yeah, so for those of you listening, if you guys want to see this guy trade for a crazy ultraman, you'll be able to see it now. Um, I don't know if I'd ever do one of those. That sounds that sounds pretty big and scary, so I don't know about that, but hey, kudos got to you, man. So uh how hard was it running that distance that you ran? Like how how like can you give us on a scale of like one did sin how hard it was?

SPEAKER_00 15:50

Oh man, I I'd have to give it a 10. Like, cause like, and like to me, like I I I'm a personal trainer, so my scale of one to ten is like one is so easy you could fall asleep, and ten is like failure. Like there's like ten is your limit, it's your absolute max, ten is your failure, and like I did hit that point by the end of it. Cause like for me, it's like like you're you're a runner, so what kind of distances do you run normally?

SPEAKER_01 16:18

Um in the summer I was doing like 70 miles a week, but now I just do like six to eight miles a day.

SPEAKER_00 16:24

So do you have you ever had shin splints?

SPEAKER_01 16:28

Uh yeah, when I first started, I did, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:31

Okay, so I ran on shin splints for like 110 kilometers at least. Wow. So it's like in the first, like after the 40k mark, they started like splinting up, and then by the time it's like kilometer number 70, I'd say, every step you take is like a little bit of feedback and a little bit of pain. And then by like maybe let's say by the 100k mark, this is my leg and my foot. You can no longer bend your foot like this anymore. It's like that's no longer an option. Your leg's just a club, like Goggins talking about taping up the tube sock.

SPEAKER_01 17:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:04

Running with like your hip flexors a little bit. So it's like it was at points, it felt like biblical, man. It was really fucked up.

SPEAKER_01 17:10

Wow, that's crazy, man. That's uh that's insane. I couldn't imagine that pain because like when I was in high school we would do like cross-country practice, some kid would get like shin splints or something, quote unquote, and uh they want to even go run like half a mile, and the fact that you ran on that for like the whole time is crazy to me. Like, that's you're a tough dude. You're definitely a super minerally tough dude. I'd like to see you and Davy Goggins go at it one day. Is that something you'd want to do?

SPEAKER_00 17:38

Yeah, it'd be my dream to meet that man. Uh actually, at one point in the run, I had his book on on my on my headphones. Um I would I would love to get humbled by that man, put it that way. Not gonna talk it, I'm not gonna challenge anything, but I'd love to be humbled by him.

SPEAKER_01 17:54

Yeah, yeah. Hey, that book's awesome, by the way. For those of you listening, if you haven't read David David Goggins' book, Can't Hurt Me, you gotta go read that. Like I read it, I got like the actual like book version, and I I read it for like two days straight. Like it's such a good book, and it motivates you after you like it, like buffs you up a little bit. You go out and start doing push-ups and stuff. Yeah, there it is.

SPEAKER_00 18:20

The man himself, the legend.

SPEAKER_01 18:22

Yeah, yeah. Make sure you guys definitely go check out that book though. Like, that's an awesome book. And like it talks about writing. Did you like as soon as you got done with it, did you go home and put sticky notes on your mirror? Like he talks about.

SPEAKER_00 18:33

Uh actually, after the erase, I didn't I slept for like 13 hours once I eventually got back. Um and then I had bigger problems to worry about than the sticky notes, like getting put getting pants on and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01 18:45

Yeah, yeah, I don't blame you. Yeah, waking up this morning, I felt like I wanted to sleep 13 hours. I woke up and I was like the most tired I've ever been. I have no idea why. But hey, I I can imagine sleeping after that. I bet you woke up and you were like the most stiff you've ever been. Like I bet like sitting up, you could barely even do that.

SPEAKER_00 19:04

It was bad. Luckily I'm in Canvas, so it's like there's uh some things that are legal here that you know you can you can use to help and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01 19:15

Yeah, do uh do Canadians so I have like one of y'all's like dollar like five dollar bills from like 1980s or something crazy like that. Um, do y'all have like a separate language other than English? Or or like what does that look like? Because on the on the dollar, it was like some other language on there too, and English.

SPEAKER_00 19:33

Yeah, we're bilingual, so we got French too.

SPEAKER_01 19:35

Oh, no way. So like you could fluently speak French?

SPEAKER_00 19:40

Uh you growing up, you get like an option of like taking core French courses till you're like 13 and then dropping them after, or you can continue. And I dropped them when I was 13. Uh so I could like tell you my name and ask where the bathroom is and say thank you stuff, but like I'm not gonna be able to have a fluent conversation with someone who's a native French.

SPEAKER_01 20:01

Okay. Gotcha. Yeah, it's kind of like that here, like um in Texas. I don't know what the other states do, but down here, being so close to the border of Mexico, um, like I could we they teach us in high school for like three or four years how to speak Spanish. And so I'm the same way. Like, I'm not fluid in it, but like I could speak it and understand it a little bit, you know. So that's crazy though that um you guys are are bilingual and that they do it to like 13. Ours is like after high school, the American and Canadian system so much different, but I don't know. I feel like Canadians and Americans are so much alike too, in a way. Um what what what does Canadia or Canada think about Canadia? What does Canada think about all the US stuff that's going on over here in the US?

SPEAKER_00 20:49

Uh you mean like politics and stuff like that?

SPEAKER_01 20:51

Yeah, yeah, I'm curious to know.

SPEAKER_00 20:54

Uh I mean we get all the same media as you guys, so it's like we obviously have our opinions. You know, it's the left versus right is a very polarizing debate, and I think it's like we have a similar debate here, but less maybe entertaining. Uh I don't know. I mean, I guess it depends on the person. I try to steer clear of it, uh, but it's um I don't know. I think we think it's like the rest of the world, it's just sometimes it's unbelievable some things that come out, but it is what it is.

unknown 21:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:25

Yeah, it's funny. Um, I saw a video of, I don't know if this is real or not, um, because you know how the media is in the United States, but I saw a video of people in downtown Toronto or something carrying a bunch of um I'm not gonna say like who or what side, but some some one of the president's flags, they had like a whole parade. Um, does that happen in Canada that you know of?

SPEAKER_00 21:51

Like you mean like political parades and stuff like that?

SPEAKER_01 21:54

Yeah, but like for like United States president looks.

SPEAKER_00 21:58

Oh well, maybe, yeah, because Like certain people, like like for example, like let's say like Donald Trump, he's a polarizing man, but he he enables two emotions love or hate. So it's like if you love him, like you're gonna scream it to the rooftop and you might march for him. And if you hate him, you might do the same. So it's like I don't particularly know, but I would believe, yes, that like we definitely probably have people that would be willing to do that.

SPEAKER_01 22:22

Yeah, that's interesting. Um, I know a lot of people in the US talk about moving to Canada and stuff like that. Um, would you suggest like what what's Canada like? Is it like like in my head, when I think of Canada, I think of it snowing year round, but that can just be like what's it like? What's the climate like there?

SPEAKER_00 22:42

How would I picture it? Like um picture like picture the seasons New York has um year round. So it's like summertime's beautiful. Like I think summertime in Canada is probably the best place in the world. It's short though, like eight weeks, it feels like. Like starts actually getting hot in July, and by September it's cooling off. Um the more towards the middle you go, kind of like you guys, how you have like the Midwest. We have that same thing. We have the prairies where it's like almost like nothing, but on the coasts, you have the coast and the southern part, you have lots of big, beautiful cities, great people. Um so I don't know, it depends what you're into, but it's uh it's beautiful, it's not crowded.

SPEAKER_01 23:23

Yeah, yeah. Are there like a lot of mountains in Canada?

SPEAKER_00 23:27

Yeah, well, we like similar to like you guys with the Rockies, like along the western part, we have like up, like like you've probably seen pictures of like Banth, maybe, or Whistler, these places, and it's yeah, it's like a different world. But that the the mountains are very far away from me, like a five-hour flight.

SPEAKER_01 23:47

Wow, yeah, that's really cool, man. Yeah, and I feel like a lot of people like from the US are interested uh about Canada, especially being in Texas, like on the most southernmost part of the United States. Like just just wanted to uh you know learn about Canada. I haven't ever talked to anybody from Canada, but it's interesting to hear like how things work. And it sounds like y'all are pretty much the same as us, but y'all have a little bit more uh I don't know, y'all are a lot more calm about things um compared to the U United States, it seems like so yeah, nothing fashion. Yeah, that's for sure, man. So um I'm gonna go through uh did I ask you already what the next feed is? Like what's your next um what's like the next distance or challenge?

SPEAKER_00 24:34

Uh you did not.

SPEAKER_01 24:36

It's the uh ultraman, right?

SPEAKER_00 24:38

Yeah, so in next year, we we haven't officially locked down the date, but it's looking like September 2021. Uh we're gonna we're gonna do an event uh an Ultraman. So I don't know if you know what an Ultraman is or for your viewers, but it's basically anything that's longer than an Iron Man, distance triathlon, I believe, is considered an Ultraman. Um it might be I might be wrong, it might be two Ironmans and more as an Ultraman, but it's at least two is what we're looking at. Um my participation will be dependent on what the knee surgeon tells me if if that's an option or not.

SPEAKER_01 25:16

Yeah, yeah. So like what are the distances for an Ultraman? Like, can you explain how like the distance all the distances work and stuff like that?

SPEAKER_00 25:25

Yeah, so I'll try my best not to butcher this, but so for an Iron Man, we'll do and then we can just time it. But 2.4 mile swim, 112-mile bicycle, and then a 26.2 mile run. So we're basically gonna at least double that and probably add a little tiny bit, because we have two really really iconic places where we live that we want to start as our start point and end point, and it ends up being like a two point, like a regular Iron Man times 2.2 or something.

SPEAKER_01 26:00

Yeah, that sounds like a um that sounds like something fun, I guess for you. Um, I don't I definitely probably wouldn't do any of that in the in the future. So that'd be like a what like a 50-mile run, a 12-mile swim, and then like a 200-mile bike ride or something crazy like that. Times a half, so more.

SPEAKER_00 26:20

Yeah, it's it's like uh it wouldn't be a 12-mile swim, maybe like a six or a seven mile swim, maybe, and then probably like a 240-ish mile bike, and then like a yeah, like a 50, maybe a 60 something mile run.

SPEAKER_01 26:39

Hey, if you go up to uh Antarctica and do it up there, you'll be known as the toughest man on earth. Um, there's a guy that has done the Iron Man. Um, I don't know how he got to Antarctica because it's like a treaty to like barely anybody can go there. And also, like, I want to know about the conspiracies on Antarctica. Like, why can nobody go there? How come New Zealand on Google Maps? It's not the actual picture of Antarctica. Like a bunch of weird stuff going on there. Do you know anything about that?

SPEAKER_00 27:08

I know nothing about that, but I have seen Project Iceman, and it's a great video to watch.

SPEAKER_01 27:13

Yeah, yeah. So Project Iceman, that's the one to where he goes out there and does the Iron Man, right?

SPEAKER_00 27:19

Yeah, I don't know if it was the Iron Man or if that's the one where he did like the northernmost triathlon, but either way, like those that guy and his team, like the videos of him in like the storage container, negative 30 training and stuff, it's just iconic.

SPEAKER_01 27:33

Yeah, yeah. Um, yeah, for the people listening, like if you haven't seen that, you need to hop on YouTube and watch that too. You got a whole list today. You gotta watch his documentary. Now you gotta watch the uh one to where he goes to Antarctica and does the Iron Man there, and you also gotta read Debbie Goggins. So I got a bunch of catching up to do, but that's insane. Running 26 miles in freezing ice cold weather, and then swimming and like a negative, who knows about what the negative is?

SPEAKER_00 27:59

Like swim, what like really like I watched that and like to give you an idea, like you're in central Texas, I think this will be cool to you, but like my parents live on a lake, so in the wintertime, like when I go there for Christmas in two days, normally the lake will be frozen. Now, this year it might not be frozen, but that water is like if you have ice cubes in a glass, but you sunk your whole body in there, and he swam in that for like over an hour.

SPEAKER_01 28:25

Wow, that's crazy, man. And then he didn't he I think I saw a video of him like biking, like through like this tet treacherous snow, and like there's just a wind blowing on him. He did that too, right?

SPEAKER_00 28:37

Yeah, yeah, it's like two mat like he's he's in the middle of nowhere.

SPEAKER_01 28:40

Yeah, yeah. It's it's crazy what people do. And I want to know like what the next big thing like someone's gonna do is. Um, I know some guy swam around all of Great Britain last year.

SPEAKER_00 28:51

Ross Edley is in the monster.

SPEAKER_01 28:54

Yeah, yeah. I watched him on YouTube. I watched his series uh with Red Bull. I unsubscribed when he was like halfway through just because uh I got tired of his videos and he he barely moved, but then I subscribed a couple months later and he got close to finishing. So and he ended up finishing, which is crazy. So yeah, I I want to know what the next next big thing someone's gonna do is. Um I think you can do it, man. You're you're pretty mentally tough. You should do something crazy.

SPEAKER_00 29:19

We'll see. I gotta take some baby steps first and get this knee right, but I think uh I don't think I'm going anywhere in this world, but I think it's only gonna get a little crazier, you know.

SPEAKER_01 29:29

Yeah, yeah, for sure, man. Yeah, um, I think we pretty much covered everything. Do you wanna do you have anything else?

SPEAKER_00 29:38

Uh no, I just I guess I'd say that, yeah, check with the documentary. It's it's 12 minutes long too, so it's not it's not gonna take up a huge chunk of your day. Uh, but these guys who edited at Ilien Pharaoh Productions, they're good guys, they're my friends, they're my buddies, but they they've spent 200 plus hours editing this video. So it's like this is like this is a professional quality video. This isn't just a couple guys messing around with the camera. Like this was very well done.

SPEAKER_01 30:04

Yeah, yeah, it really was, guys. And uh, what's the name of that YouTube channel that it's posted on?

SPEAKER_00 30:09

Uh, I believe their channel is called the um, what is it, the influencers, I think is what they go by.

SPEAKER_01 30:14

Yeah, yeah, I was about to say, I think it's called the influencers. I was looking at the comments and uh when it only had like 60 likes, some guy commented. He was like, How does this only have 60 likes? And then I scrolled up and ended up having like 600 more since he commented that. So it's like blowing up slowly, but um, I bet it gets to like 100k or something like something crazy like that.

SPEAKER_00 30:34

So that'd be crazy, man. It'll uh anyone who who likes the video, subscribe because the second we have the trailer ready for the next year's race, that's the first place it goes.

SPEAKER_01 30:44

Yeah, yeah. Make sure you guys go check that out. It's all gonna be in the description. Um, whether you're watching on YouTube or podcast, Spotify, whatever it's on, it's below. Um, and then all his do you want me to put your Instagram below too?

SPEAKER_00 30:58

Yeah, put all the handles down there, follow me, engage with me, I'll talk back if you have questions about Canada.

SPEAKER_01 31:03

Yeah, yeah, definitely uh follow him and let him know you came from the show too. Um, but I think that wraps up everything. Um, so getting into the outro, guys. So we get like hundreds of viewers and listeners, uh, but we only have like four ratings on iTunes podcast right now. So if you're listening on iTunes, scroll down, click the five-star symbol. Uh, and that's all you gotta do. And I'd really appreciate it if you could do that. And then also, um, if you want to help out the show a little bit, uh, I've been paying out of my own pocket for the show for a couple months now. Um, but if you want to help towards that and only donate like two or three dollars a month, join the Patreon below. Um, and next Saturday, we're gonna have on a super awesome guest, uh Coach Cliff Pittman from Arkansas. Um, super excited to have him on. But yeah, that's everything, guys, and I'll see you all next Saturday.