Tricky Conversations
Sandra and Sally are good friends. But their life experiences are very different. Sandra is black, Sally is white. Sandra is straight, Sally is lesbian. Until now they have simply accepted and welcomed their differences but in these podcasts they talk for the first time about identity and discrimination. Prompted by Black Lives Matter to make their own contribution to change, Sandra and Sally show that it’s possible to learn from each other with good humour and courage.
Tricky Conversations
3. Can you see me?
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Sally
As a lesbian, Sally must choose whether to come out in every new encounter, whether it’s with colleagues or the gas man. Sandra, on the other hand, has never had to come out as a black woman! She has to face people's assumptions based on stereotypes. They talk about the effort it takes to be seen as an individual.