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Speaker 3:And I'm Shannon and this is a podcast about functional medicine and healthy living. Okay. All right. So today we're being super casual and Shannon and I are chit chatting about our lives and all the cool stuff that we're doing. Um, because we thought you guys might like to know about this kind of stuff. Right? We're super interesting people. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. I mean whatever. We can talk all day about what we think maybe our clients or our listeners should do with their lives. But um,
Speaker 1:well, I don't know. We're pretty nerdy sometime the civil try, you know,
Speaker 3:super, super nerd. And how we are um, alright I want to talk about breakfast because I changed up my breakfast routine. But you go first. What are you eating for breakfast these days?
Speaker 1:Well, I am keeping it super, super simple. I'm trying to do some intermittent fasting that it's hard over the summer because a lot of times we're going to the pool and the evenings and you know, we're not home until 8:00 or something and then we eat, you know, really late and our schedules are just so messed up. But I'm still trying to do some intermittent fasting. I'm at least for 12 hours if not 14. And so my breakfast has been just super simple. I'll do like a very quick smoothie bowl. Like this morning it was um, a quarter cup of coconut cream with about a half a cup of frozen blueberries, a about a quarter of a banana. And what else? I had some almond butter added, probably about a tablespoon of almond butter added and about a tablespoon of Chia seed. And I just blended it all up and I stuck it in the fridge for about 10 minutes. And then I ate it up and it was pretty good.
Speaker 3:Super good. It sounds really, really good. So when you're, it's super fulfilling to, you know, it lasted me for at least four hours, so I'm always impressed when I do smoothies or smoothie bowls, like the ingredients that I put in and then the quantity that has produced, I'm like Oh
Speaker 2:maybe we'll have smoothies for lunch.
Speaker 1:I know it is really, it's really kind of weird. It almost seems to multiply it into a bowl or something.
Speaker 2:So when you're doing intermittent fasting, are you skipping breakfast and the smoothies or smoothie bowls or whatever. It's just like on days that you're eating an earlier breakfast?
Speaker 1:Well it's probably like probably 10:00 in the morning is when I'm doing it. When I'm taking it.
Speaker 2:Are you guys sleeping in over the summer? I'm sleeping in so late til like 9:30. What is this life?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I, I've slept in a usually till about eight, so it's Kinda Nice. We have a very relaxed morning and then I do all my work in the morning or in the APP afternoons, late afternoons. And then after the kids go to bed, I stayed up till about midnight, do any more work. So it's nice having the flexibility.
Speaker 2:This is where my complaint comes in. I was actually complaining to my husband about this yesterday. I was like I need these kids to have an earlier bedtime and the summer because it messes up my cycle. So like at the end of the school year I was like strict going to bed by 10:00. I mean 10:30 was the absolute latest. I would stay up like once a week till 10:30. And I was like in bed asleep by 10:00 PM now. And because then my kids were going to bed between eight and 8:30 so I could still get a. I'm like watch a movie with my husband or like do some work or whatever. Right now my kids are up until 10:00 PM so if I want to do anything after they go to bed then I'm up till midnight. But that I'm not one of those people. I can't do like 6:00 AM when I go to bed at midnight. That's there's no way. There's no way either, but the kids, they sleep until nine typically, but yeah, so I'm about to start the bedtime back. Enforce her mom is about to come back into the picture. Okay guys. No more of this late party night.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're having a movie night or something. It's a little different. Yeah. You get some work done and they are usually in bed by nine.
Speaker 2:I like going to bed early too because I like to get up and go to like 6:00 AM yoga or workout really early and get my days
Speaker 1:started with that night owl. Like last night I was working out at 9:00 last night. What about that late and then I sat in a sauna for a while. I was up till probably Monday and I um, did some work on my computer while sitting in the sauna, which may not be great for my, my computer, but it's not that time effectiveness. It is very good for time effective. It works really, really well. I get a lot done in there too. I like my mental clarity is really on spot.
Speaker 2:Nice. I like it. It. I'm jealous of your sauna by the way. I told my husband that you have a sauna and he's super, super jealous. He keeps a gym membership here in town and only he never works out there. He just uses their sauna, goes to the sauna. It's like a quick and inexpensive. I don't know if it's a sauna or a steam room over there, but either way, that's the only reason he pays. He works out at home and he goes to Jujitsu, but like the gym membership is just for just for the sauna. Um,
Speaker 1:the infrared. I love it. Oh, so you have the fanciest. I do know that there are some practitioners that claimed that the emf levels are really high with infrared. So, um, I've been meaning to get one of those emf detectors that you can, you know, check, check that. But I haven't done that yet. So I need to do that just to see. But, you know, really depressed me if mine are really high,
Speaker 2:are high, you know what I'm worried about with emf. Speaking of ems, um, this, I need to research this. So, um, my husband got me a pair of those air pods, like the Wifi earbuds that connect to your iphone, you don't have any cords. They're so nice. They're the best. I love them. I love them so much. So I've been using, um, yeah, they're really nice. I've been using them when I work out but I was like man, are these things and meeting a bunch of ems, like directly into my ear
Speaker 1:holes into my brain and I'm almost scared to find out because if they are going to do something about it,
Speaker 2:like not use them. I love them and they're, I, I am not a big earbud person because they always, I feel like I have tiny ear holes because the earbuds always hurt my ears and so I never use them. But these are super comfortable and the sound quality is really good and like it's, it's so nice to not have to, you know, I just didn't really. I don't know, I'm going to be bummed. Physicians off of these things is super high
Speaker 1:and the detectors aren't very expensive. I was kinda looking around at some of them on Amazon. So we need to get some of those play around with them starting with
Speaker 2:during. I mean we don't use a microwave for that exact reason.
Speaker 1:Like we don't have a microwave and maybe seven years. My crave occasionally we don't even have one. We've never had one since we live together. Wow. Really? Never had. Never had an extra one.
Speaker 2:Isn't that funny? Well, because when we moved in together, like I was living with my brother and Anthony lived in Dallas by himself and had the apartment he lived in, had one of those like, you know, the microwaves that are installed in an apartment and when I, when he and I moved in together, the microwave that wasn't mine and my brother's house belong to my brother.
Speaker 3:But when we moved in together we were just like, just never had one. Yeah. We were like, well wait, what do we need a microwave for? And we've just never gotten one. So. But people think it's weird when you're in. My Dad was
Speaker 2:like, what if we got you a really nice microwave for Christmas? And I was like, I don't.
Speaker 3:Oh, one of microwave. And he was like, but why he did not understand like not I'm no use for microwave man. I don't have an oven and a stove and a toaster oven. Everything, it may take a little longer, a lot more effective and things tastes. We actually, we got a little off track. Do you want to tell us about your breakfast or. No? Yeah. Okay. So you said that you changed her breakfast. So breakfast I used to always
Speaker 2:be coffee
Speaker 3:was so it was
Speaker 2:a half a cup of coffee with about a half a cup of half and half. I. Oh my goodness. That was breakfast are telling me every day. Um, and so I quit drinking coffee for a month just so in the last probably two weeks I have had a few coffees just like one a day. The first time I went and got a coffee it was. Well, so here let's back up. So when I stopped drinking coffee, I actually had to start eating food for breakfast because I started. I was actually hungry in the mornings when I wasn't having all that you had for breakfast? Yeah. Oh yeah. No, like I didn't eat food for breakfast, I wouldn't, I usually wouldn't. I would drink coffee all day until like three or four and then I would eat something. Um, so, and when I say I would drink coffee all day, like it wasn't like I drank that one cup all day. It was, I literally, I was drinking like two pots of coffee a day, which we know is not a healthy thing to do. I'm in, my adrenals are just shot. So, um, I'm, I was just like, okay, I'm done. So I quit drinking coffee and I was still having a little bit of caffeine just so that I didn't get like a withdrawal symptoms because seriously, it's like I'm going to give up. Yeah. And it's a, I mean it was really used to. And Caffeine is legit. I mean you get withdrawal flake. The headaches were horrible. So I was drinking some black tea and like I had a year Montay a couple of times those first few days, but just dislike stave off the headache. But. So I got through that and then I was fine and it wasn't a big deal to not have the caffeine anymore and it was, it was totally not a big deal. But um, but I was, I was hungry in the mornings and so I was like, okay, what am I don't like I feed my kids but what am I going to eat? So I started making smoothie bowls. So anyone that follows us on instagram has probably seen the ones that I've posted. But um, I came across like I was searching on Instagram, just like the Hashtag smoothie bowls, try find some recipes and I found a bunch of recipes that from different people that were using vegetables, like frozen vegetables as the base. So it was like frozen squash and frozen Zucchini were the most common ones, but frozen cauliflower as well. So I went and bought a house, bought a huge amount of Zucchini and squash and cauliflower and I just chopped it all up and put it in a giant bowl with like a plastic lid in the freezer. Perfect. And so it was all mixed up and then I would just grab a couple handfuls of that and then mix it with kind of whatever, but I have two or all three really recipes that are really like so, and we kind of alternate between these but my kids love them too. And like they know there's vegetables in there but it does not. You can't taste them because the flavor is so mild and they blend up really creamy. Yeah. Like the squash blends up really creamy. It's nice. So, um, the, the Zucchini squash and cauliflower. And then I was using cacao powder at first, but there's so much caffeine in that. But I switched when I ran out of that, I switched over to carob powder, um, for like a chocolate based smoothies. So I was adding that and coconut milk, like canned coconut milk. The um, what is it like the native forest or whatever, the one that has the non BPA liners. I liked their simple formula. There's just coconut milk because one of the, one of their formulas has carrageenan in it and I don't like that. Yeah. So I buy the one with all the Carrageenan, but um, anyway, some of that and then, and I just like eyeball everything, I don't, I can't measure it, but um, and then some chopped up sweet potatoes and I would actually leave the skin on the sweet potatoes because you can't really taste it when it's blended and some banana, like half to a full frozen banana and a little bit of cinnamon and a little bit of Himalayan Sea salt and I would blend that up and then I was topping it with sliced strawberries and shredded coconut and oh wait, no. And I was also putting um, hazel nuts soaked hazelnuts in with the smoothie. So it was almost like a nutella type chocolate. Like that hazelnut in there was really good. Um, but then yeah, so then topping it with sliced strawberries and shredded coconut and pumpkin seeds. It's like whatever I had on hand. So my son is not like toppings unless they're fruit. He's not into like pumpkin seeds or heaven forbid I put him parts on something that he can see. Oh No, you won't make that mistake again.
Speaker 1:Kill. Especially like the strawberry smoothie bowl that I make, he'll eat that all up, but if I had to put any kind of topping on,
Speaker 2:nope. Yeah, that's a no go. So I was making that one and then I started making. Oh. And I usually add collagen in there too because I feel like a breakfast without a proper protein does not set my blood sugar up for a good day. So like I was adding a couple of scoops of um, vital proteins, collagen powder in there too, but not always, but sometimes I'm. So then I did like a Pumpkin Pie, a smoothie bowl too, and then I was doing like a strawberry raspberry based one as well. Which like most of the other ingredients we're the same. Like it was always a base of the Zucchini and squash and the cauliflower. And then I didn't put sweet potato and the Berry one because I did the berries instead. But like always banana, always coconut milk. Sometimes I would use that ripple
Speaker 3:pea protein milk. Oh yeah. I like that stuff I've ever tried that. It's pretty good.
Speaker 2:I've only ever had. Well that's not totally true, so we only buy typically the original unsweet because there's quite a bit of sugar in the vanilla one and the chocolate one,
Speaker 3:that's the thing you have to watch with all the milk alternatives. They add so much sugar sweetened one, so definitely
Speaker 2:the chocolate one, like if you want a good dairy free chocolate milk, that ripple chocolate milk is like, it's legit, like whole milk with Hershey's syrup in it. That's what it tastes like. It reminds me of my childhood. Yeah. So. And they come in little containers, they don't, you don't have to buy like the big one. And so once in a while we'll buy like a little container and split it. Um, it's delicious. It's so,
Speaker 3:but just got so much sugar in it, but it's good. It's tasty. Um, you know, for like a moderation moderation there. Yeah. So yeah, I have been doing that lately. I'm sounds nice.
Speaker 2:Sure. My body kind of got its shit together from not surviving on coffee all day long. Then I was able to kind of. I've been doing a little bit of intermittent fasting, like I've only been doing it like two or three days a week and kind of like easing into it because I'm. Because I know I'm dealing with like some adrenal issues. I don't want to overdo it on that, so I'm just kind of seeing how I feel those days and I have noticed that like the day after I do an intermittent fasting day, um, my workouts are a little bit rougher. Are they? Yeah. I'm like, my energy is a little bit lower. I've noticed so. But I also have not been real careful about making sure. And this is the trouble I think most people run into with intermittent fasting is making sure that you're still getting in enough calories in that shortened eating timespan
Speaker 1:yeah. I don't have a problem with that at all.
Speaker 2:See? And I do. So like, I haven't really kept an eye on that, so I don't know. I'm very possibly it just and not eating enough on those days. And then
Speaker 1:yeah, that that's why I'm tired the next day. I feel more energy whenever I'm able to do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure, and that's, I used to as well, but I used to pay attention to make sure I was eating enough. I'm just not good at it right now. I'm not good at a lot of things in the summer, but speaking of workouts, this is something I'm good at right now. Right now I am excelling at my workouts
Speaker 1:and I'm trying, but yeah, I'm not, I'm not excelling, excelling, but you know, I'm getting four days of a, you know, decent workouts in so I think four days would qualify. Qualify. It's just not anything intense and super awesome. But you know, I mean do you always have to be intense? I don't know. No, they don't at all. I know, I just feel like I should be doing intense right now, but
Speaker 2:yeah, mine have been intense. I so I download it. Okay. So like backstories to do a lot of long distance running, which I don't plan on ever doing it again, but I was like I should start running again. Like I should really be more effective in my cardiovascular training here. So a lot of times I do like short workouts at home in the backyard that are literally like 15 or 20 minute, like crossfit style or like high intensity interval training, something like that. Because I just, with the kids, I'm like, I don't have to. I'm out of here the same way. Like I don't have time to go to the gym for an hour. That's crazy. Uh, so. But I was like, I should start running again. So I downloaded this app called running for weight loss and not that I'm necessarily like, so I've lost five pounds in the last month, which is cool because I, I'd like to, I'd like to eat, lose like five to seven more. Um, but more than that I would just like to lose this little like belly pooch thing that started happening lately. Um, so really it's more for that. But anyway, so I downloaded this app called running for weight loss and if you like, you know, tell it your level and all of this stuff. And it like tell, gives you a workout, it gives you three workouts a week and the idea is that you progress to where like, so it's an intervals, so it's like he didn't have a warmup of like brisk walking or whatever, and then you're like running for x amount of minutes and then you're walking for x amount of minutes next week it adds on like you're running for x amount of minutes and then you have like a 15 second sprint and then you walk for x amount of minutes and then so you like repeat this over and over. And so like as you progress you're running more and it's always a 40 minute workout, like you're running more of that time and then you progress to like sprinting more of that time and you're walking less so increasing like your cardiovascular endurance, right? Yeah. Um, and I really like it except for the days when I try to go out and run for 40 minutes in the middle of the Oklahoma. He is, oh my gosh, I can't imagine that it's happened twice. Anything like Texas heat, I don't think it's quite as hot. So like this morning it was really cloudy and I went and it was technically about 90 degrees but it was cloudy and so it wasn't as bad, but the other day I went at like one in the afternoon and I don't know why I did that because I thought I was. I mean I go down to the school that's like a block away from our house. It takes me like five minutes to walk to the school and then they have this lab, this track around the playground and I run it. And it's nice because there's no cars, like you don't have to worry about. It's, I don't know, I like it. So, um,
Speaker 4:it's
Speaker 2:down there and I realized I forgot my water, so I'm like, but I'm down there so I'm not going to come back. That means go back. If you forgot your water, go back. It was already there. So I was like, no, it's fine. I'll be fine. And so, um, I finished my workout and like the last, I don't know, 10 minutes of my workout, I was like, man, I really wish I had my water, so there's a water fountain there. And I was like, it's fine, but then I go to get a drink out of the water fountain and I'm like, you know what, I can't drink the city water here. I can't all I can think about as the levels of arsenic that we have in our water. And like all of the gross people that have probably drank from that water fountain right before me. So I was like, no, it's fine. I'll just walk home. But yeah. And it was, I think it was, yeah, it was not my best workout for sure. But anyways, I've been doing that for like two and a half weeks and I've done three workouts a week. I haven't missed one and I have still been going to yoga. I'm a couple of days a week. I'm not teaching as much as I was. So I've been able to go a little bit more. And then, um, sometimes on the same day that I run or sometimes on a day that I do yoga, I've still been doing like some body weight, body weight and light kettlebell swings, stuff like that. I'm in the backyard. So yeah, I haven't been like rocking it on my exercise later. Does sound like they're rocking? Yeah, that'll probably not last for the entire summer. There will probably be a time where I'll have to take a break.
Speaker 1:Well, the beginning of my summer it did not start off good, so I just got lazy with the workouts and so what I actually did to motivate myself or to remind myself or however you want to put it, is on my bathroom mirror. I write, um, you know, with like one of those dry erase markers, I wrote a note to myself that every day these were the things I was going to do. So I was going to make sure I walked my dog, you know, everyday she has to get out and walk, walk around. Um, and then I was going to run at least one mile because if I, if I make myself go out and run at least one mile, sometimes I just end it there. But sometimes I'm like, oh, okay, I can go, you know, at least another half a mile or something once I'm already out there, but you know, if I just make myself do one mile, it's, you know, because I run about a 10 and a half minute mile so whenever I'm just kind of, you know, out there for, for the day doing it. So I'm like okay, 10 and a half minutes of just, you know, misery
Speaker 3:the last 10 minutes like I can, I can force myself to do. It's a miserable for 10 minutes.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 3:But even then, what else? Like what have you, did that 10 minute mile as like an interval?
Speaker 1:Okay. Well if you did that would be awesome.
Speaker 3:It's trying to help you utilize that 10 minutes with Missouri,
Speaker 1:I really need to do that. I need to step that up. And so I have 20 pushups on my list and which typically I do more than that. But again, if I can, you know, and you know, find your number, like if it's only 10, just do 10, but if I at least make myself do the 20 then you. No, I'm good.
Speaker 3:And a lot.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I mean
Speaker 3:like I did a workout yesterday that had, it was like a 10 factorial workout. So where you do like 10, nine, eight, seven, six, five, four, three, two, one of like, I think I had four or five percent, four or five different movements that I went through and it ends up being, when you do it like that, it ends up being 55 of each movement, like in total and pushups or one of the things I did and I did them all on my knees because I knew that I wasn't going to do all those, like real pushups at all. And My triceps hurts so bad today.
Speaker 1:Workout. So the steps are one of those things that I'm pretty good at. It's, I guess, you know, years and years of massage therapy. I don't know if that
Speaker 3:Ah,
Speaker 1:easier on me, but steps are one of the things that are okay for me, but see those are worse now. Okay. So my other thing that I have written on my mirror is 50 squats and I rarely ever get that done. Yeah. I just hate them. I hate squats or lunges and
Speaker 3:squats.
Speaker 1:Relented, do so morning. I mean I'll do them, you know, maybe twice a week, but definitely not everything. Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's not bad though.
Speaker 1:Yeah. You know, the little note is just to motivate myself and remind myself, okay, have you done that? No you haven't. So you need to get this.
Speaker 3:I'll do that right now. That's a good idea. It works for me. Works fine
Speaker 2:yourself. I try to make my son work out with me and he's not into it. I'm like, come on man, you're eight years almost nine. You're almost nine years old. You can do this.
Speaker 1:My eight year old's not into it either. I feel like he has some fun with, you know, we'll do some, uh, back bends and you know, fun stuff like that. And he flips in the trampoline, like, you know, that's how we get exercise in for a pound and the port and Jonah too. But they like to do, if they don't know they're exercising, but they're out there just having fun.
Speaker 3:They don't realize they're exercising. I bought my son a badminton game, you know, it's like the tennis racket type things, but it's Kinda like the little birdie or whatever. I don't know. I didn't know what badminton was until I bought my British badman anyway. So we've been playing in the backyard and that game is hard. Yeah. I don't even know how long he's got me.
Speaker 2:Well because we have a basketball court in our backyard and so we were just using the middle line and like, you know, pretending like there was a net there and hitting it back and forth. And I mean, he's an athletic kid so. And he plays baseball so he can hit it probably a lot harder.
Speaker 3:He's got me running all over the, my half a basketball. I'm like, enough I give up, I give up. It's hard enough.
Speaker 2:Um, all right. What about supplements? Supplements? Are you taking these days?
Speaker 1:Oh, supplements, you know, I changed my supplements all the time just based on what I feel that my body needs basically. Um, so currently I'm taking a multivitamin because that's always important. Um, and I'm taking evening primrose oil.
Speaker 4:Mm.
Speaker 1:Um, and of course written for. I've had some joint inflammation in my elbow again, probably from all the years of massage therapy, so, um, had some joint inflammation there in my elbow and also allergies had been really bad. I've never had allergies before, but this year I've been having some and seasonal allergies. Yes. So there's something in the air which course 10 is amazing
Speaker 5:for both of those things, for the, of inflammation and allergy. So that's what I've been taking. And then just uh, um, active b complex vitamin and that's, that's it. That's not too much. How about you?
Speaker 2:Um, I am not taking anything. Right?
Speaker 5:Oh, that's right. You tell me that you were taking a break from your supplements. I do that a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I quit taking all of my supplements and because I was taking a ungodly amount of supplements, so I was taking like a vitamin D, a Multivitamin, a zinc and copper, a b complex, Omega three. I'm like, I was taking like three handfuls of pills a day.
Speaker 5:Oh my goodness. Sometimes less is more probiotics like, and it just got to a point where I was like, first of all, this
Speaker 2:is expensive and second of all, uh, I might be overdoing it. Um, so then I got a bunch of lab work done and like my vitamin D levels had taped while I was supplementing with like pretty high levels. And I was like, okay, well that's bullshit. So that was the first thing I cut out. Um, but my own meat, my Omega three levels were for the first time ever in my life were at like a very stellar levels. So, um, even though I quit taking my Omega three, I started eating a lot more fish, so I'm hoping that they'll stay high where they're supposed to be. Um, so like my omega three to Omega six ratio was like where it was supposed to be, are much closer to where it's supposed to be instead of way out of range like it was before. And then, um, I just, I dunno, I didn't love my multivitamin, it was just one that I felt like was acceptable. So I quit taking that. I do still pop a probiotic every once in a while, but I have started making a huge effort to eat fermented foods every single day. So I'm like that wild brine brand of a ferments that I like. I've been eating that have like a, I don't know, five or six of those in my fridge. So I've been eating those every day. And then there's this coconut yogurt that I started buying and I've been putting it in like smoothie bowls or, um, like I'll mix it up just itself with a little bit of honey and a little bit of carob powder. And it's Kinda like chocolate. It probably does not taste like chocolate pudding to anyone who's ever actually eating chocolate pudding on it.
Speaker 5:We're basis, but I haven't had chocolate pudding in years, so it tastes like chocolate pudding to me. Yeah. I mean that stuff was pretty tiny so
Speaker 2:it makes a good sour cream replacement. Um, I made some green choice do a while ago and I was like putting it on top of there. But um, so anyway, fermented foods I haven't been doing as much Kombucha because the sugar content of Kombucha always kind of scares me off and when I went, um, I also have been doing no sugar at all for a long time. So anyway. Um, so I haven't taken any supplements besides like the occasional probiotic in I want to say like six weeks and I feel good. Like I had this fear that I was going to stop taking all of my supplements and my body was going to fall apart. Um, oh. And I have popped a 50 milligrams zinc every now and again. I'm just. Because I know that I have low zinc levels like I have, I tend to have like chronically low zinc levels and so I have taken one of those like maybe once a week. Um,
Speaker 5:but yeah, I think that supplements are very important, especially if you know your levels are low, but I think it's equally important to take breaks. I think your body needs those breaks and I agree. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Commissioners, we get like really wrapped up in like we know how much good all of these supplements can do. Right? And so it's like clearly we should just take all of them all the time and then it's like Ooh, I need a breather from all of that. And I also, I don't know, I've been reading a lot about fillers and supplements and like, I mean obviously most of the supplements that we use, it's, you know, the, the fillers are like not anything toxic and like things you don't have to really worry about. But on the flip side of that, I'm like, but when you're taking all of those supplements and like you've got all these different filters going on or like a higher quantity of certain fillers and I'm Kinda like, Eh, I don't know.
Speaker 5:That's definitely why it's important to make sure you're getting a really high quality brand for sure.
Speaker 2:Oh, and I have taken a b complex a couple of times when I drank. Yeah, because if I drink and I go to bed without taking a b complex, I am so screwed the next day.
Speaker 5:What are you talking about when you drink? Like what do you drink? Wine or drink? Do you have?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so wine we'll do me in for sure. So I try not to drink wine so I try to drink tequila cocktails, but I try to make sure it's a tequila cocktail that doesn't have any sugar in it because it's like the same thing if I drink alcohol that has, it's a mixed drink with sugar in it, like the sugar makes me feel awful. The next.
Speaker 5:Hi. What brand of Tequila do you like? That's a really good peer. Um,
Speaker 2:I don't know what I do because my husband is a tequila specialist. I turned
Speaker 3:perfect. I have no clue whatsoever. I don't either. I don't know anything about it. Um, we have a garage full of it
Speaker 2:star in there, but it's all Tequila. So just thinking, I mean that's what he does for a living. So I'm, I'm, I know that like I personally prefer a, like a, I say clear Tequila, I guess technically that's a silver Tequila. I don't know if he listens to this, he's probably going to all kinds of correct me, but that's all right. And I'm the only one that I really ever recognize his, he, he hasn't sprayed, he represents a brand called Casa Noble a. and I know that he always recommends that to people. So like, I don't know, um, I know there's all these rules about Tequila, like it has to be a certain type of a Gabi because there's like different breeds of a Gabi plants, so it has to be made from a certain type of a bay and it has to be made in the region, in the region of Tequila. It's like, like Tequila is actually a place, it's a region in Mexico and so sort of like, well, so you know how champagne interesting though. Yeah. So, okay. So maybe I do know some things about Tequila, but not as much as he does. He's like, he really is a tequila specialist. He knows everything about it. So he's been down to like three or four different Tequila distilleries in Mexico and like toward them and he's got a picture somewhere from like harvesting a golf with the guys in the field. Yeah. Um, but so, you know, how like champagne has to come from the champagne region of France, otherwise it's just sparkling wine. So it Tequila. Is this kind of the same thing? Like if it doesn't come from the region of Tequila in Mexico, then it's not actually real Tequila. Um, because there's so like it has to be a certain age to a certain way or something. I don't know. I'm going to quit butchering that now. But that's really fascinating though. Um, I know that Tequila is the lowest carbohydrate alcohol. Okay. Yes. And I know that supposedly it has some probiotics in it.
Speaker 3:Ah, yeah. I remember you telling me that before and posting about that before.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's right. I did put a post up about that. So somewhere back in our instagram feed, which is like, you know, not to say that you should depend on.
Speaker 3:That is not what we're saying here, you
Speaker 2:know, as far as when you're looking at the spectrum of alcohol you consume. Maybe it's like, oh well, you know, not as many downsides, a couple of upsides. So you know, you're making a choice
Speaker 3:of what to do know, justifying. Anyway, I do, I do not like Tequila on its own. My husband will sit Tequila
Speaker 2:and I'm like, I have tried it and I cannot get on board with that. That is a no for me. But I do like Tequila drinks. So you know, like the craft cocktail movement is like a big deal. Now everybody's a mixologist and so we have a. well, I mean I'm not a mixologist but like, you know, it's like you're not just a bartender or mixologist. It's like, and I'm sure some people actually are, but anyway, there's a lot of like, you know, trendy restaurants that pop up around the Oklahoma City Metro and he knows about them because it's like the industry he works in. So we'll go visit these places once in awhile and um, you know, he'll, you know, talk to the guy, the mixologists, whatever about like, you know, what craft cocktail they're making, blah, blah, blah, whatever, and then we'll try whatever's on the menu and like, I like them, they're fun. Like there's this place that we go to in Oklahoma City all the time. It's kind of like our, our date night place and um, they have a coffee old fashioned, which sounds pretty gross, but it's delicious. It's so good. Um, well I don't know what's in an old fashion
Speaker 3:bourbon. I don't know what's in an old fashioned google it. I'll google it real quick. What's it ultimately? But they have. Okay. So it's, it's whiskey apparent, which makes sense. Oh No.
Speaker 2:Or Bourbon. Bourbon's a type of Whiskey, right? Or whiskeys? The type of Bourbon.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Well, Bourbon or Rye whiskey, I don't know. Yeah, there you go. We know nothing about nothing. You're clearly not our forte. So they add cold brewed coffee to it and it is so good. Oh yeah. They also have some really good Tequila cocktails like that does the one tequila cocktail. It's got Tequila and Rosé and something else in it. Squared combos you'd never think of that are really good. So yeah, we were talking about supplements and somehow we got over here. But anyway. Yeah. I don't know, I might start taking an Omega three again. Um, I did my vitamin D levels, had them checked again and they went back up since the weather's been warm. So like, I don't think I'm going to supplement with that over the summer. I think I want to just keep hanging out outside. Perfect. That's what I'm doing has so many benefits, right? Way more than taking a settlement, good for the soul. And I have a pretty sweet tan going on, so I'll take that. Yeah. We've been spending a lot of time at the pool lately and I'm probably about as golden at Osi can get to because I don't get very dark at all, but this is like my peak little golden. I always joke that when we go to the cool or we go on vacation or something like I'm the only one that has to wear sunscreen. My, my golden hued family, they don't have to worry about getting burned, but a nice. Yeah, for sure. So what about mindfulness? How are you being mindful these days? Sorry, my dogs are losing their minds downstairs. I don't know what's going on. Yeah,
Speaker 5:for that I wasn't sure what that, that's my dogs. Oh, my whole, you know, um, I think I'm just again, is another struggle during the summer, like the summer is just kind of a struggle just because of the schedules are so. Yeah. But uh, we had a few really, really stressful months and um, we just kind of lost, like I lost that whole being mindful and because I was so stressed and then I had to remind myself, I was like, you got to get back to the mind. So really, I started at the basics with just a gratitude journal and I was like, if I could just start my gratitude journal again everyday riding in there, just, you know, five things at most or, or at least. So yeah, that's some days it's a list and some days, um, I just kind of write in my journal about something happy that happened that day that I was thankful about or just simply, you know, being so thankful for my kids and my husband, my family and, or it can get, you know, way more advanced than that. It's just kinda my mood and it helps tremendously. Just that one little small task really, really helps just kind of pull you back. Um, and then, you know, I try to take 10, 20 minutes to myself and just go for a walk in nature because nature always just brings me back to mindfulness. I love being in nature and it can be something so simple as just being in my backyard for a few minutes alone in listening to the birds and, you know, just chilling out in the grass. That kind of thing about you. Um, this is where I have failed miserably all summer long with you and it makes it easy to do so back in March when I had the
Speaker 2:Hashimoto's diagnosis, I like real quick, was like, all right, I have to get my crap together here and like ditch the same anxiety and be more mindful. And so I was meditating probably four or five days a week, which I don't think I've ever done before in my life. And I was really good about that until school got out for the kids in mid May. Um, and I think, I think since school got out, I've meditated like twice.
Speaker 4:Hmm.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's been really, really terrible. I tried to do a gratitude journal where I was listing like 10 things every day. Um, and I think I did that two or three times and I laugh about it, but man, like it's rough for me. That's never been my strong point. I have never been good at, um, at that whole mindfulness thing. Um,
Speaker 5:oh, I definitely have not been doing meditation at all at all this summer. It's probably been about three weeks since I've done a little hard. Would love to get back on track with that. I think that will be,
Speaker 2:that I have really been good about. And part of this is because it's out of necessity and not. I'm like, I'm doing it specifically to be mindful, but I do get up earlier than everybody else even though we were all sleeping in really light. Like, I mean this morning I did get up with my kids, but most days I'm getting up 30 or 45 minutes earlier than them. Um, and I get up and I have to let the chickens out and so I go out in our backyard and I walk out there barefoot and I let the chickens out and like a hang out with the chickens for a minute. And I take them some. We buy these dried meal worms for them. So I take them some worms and feed the chickens and then I come in and immediately, uh, the dogs and the cat want to eat and we raw feed. All of our animals will, not the chickens but the dogs and the cat. So like, I'm the one that feeds them, um, so they know that when I get up it's time to eat, so they're immediately, as soon as I come in from taking care of the chickens like they want to eat, so I have to get their food together and it's kind of a process because I started adding vegetables to their raw meat blend as well. So like, yes, I have to put all this together and um, but it's like quiet and I'm the only one that's up and it's like a, um, what's the right word? It's like, you know, like a, like a saint, the same routine every morning kind of that I go through. And so even, I mean, even though it's totally not exciting or like I'm purposefully doing it, I have recognized in the last couple of weeks that like, I kind of like enjoy that process of like hanging out with my
Speaker 3:chicken,
Speaker 2:feeding them and stuff. And I don't know, I mean I'm going outside barefoot. Although, um, I don't know. My mother tells me that I should not go barefoot outside with the chicken poop and she might have a point there, I don't know,
Speaker 3:but whatever. Um, yeah,
Speaker 2:that is the man that's been the extent of it because um, even like when I'm running and stuff, I've got my airpods and my ears and like I'm not really in my own head there. I'm trying to not think about things. Sorry there got the dogs again anyway. But yeah, so I don't know man. I've been, I need to work on that big time. I really probably need to um, really try and like set a schedule for myself
Speaker 1:self to do something funny how like during the school year, life is so busy, so busy, but it's so much easier to stay on track with these things because it scheduled in our daily life is like, for me anyway. That's how it is.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Sandy, I have to get up same time every day. You have to be more mindful about being mindful.
Speaker 1:Exactly. Exactly. But you know what, one thing that is really made it easier for me and I just started doing this a few weeks ago and it really makes a difference. I mean, I do it all the time, like normally, but again, I got out of the habit, but then I was like, you know what, I need to get back into this habit of I just make a list the night before before I go to bed of like everything I want to do right when I wake up, right when I get up, like all the most important tasks, get them done. Um, and you know, even my workouts usually are in the evening, so that might not be on my first part of my to do list. But, um, you know, certain things, certain phone calls, I need to make certain things that I need to do with work that needed to be done right away, you know, I make sure all of that gets done first thing and then I make sure that I have on my list exactly what workout I want to,
Speaker 3:to try to accomplish my mirror,
Speaker 1:that kind of thing. So it helps like having it written down.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean that's being mindful. I know I sleep better when I do that in the evening if I make it to do. Even if it's like I know all that stuff is not getting done the next day I sleep a lot better if I make that to do list.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for sure. Me Too. Just so it's not going through your head all night long.
Speaker 2:Alright. So before we run out of time, I have not told you about this yet because I'm super excited about. So I got my. Okay. So let's start over. When I got my Hashimoto's diagnosis in March, March eighth was when my lab work was run. So I had my tsh was high, it was three point four two. So that's sub clinically high. Right. So like a conventional range is point four to four point five. But like what we would look at as about one point three to two. So it was a point and a half above what we like to see. Um, and my t four and t three were fine, but I had tpo antibodies. They were 99, they should be, there shouldn't be any of them there. Some people will say under 34, some people will say under nine. Um, anyway, so, um, also my, uh, hemoglobin a, one c was five point two, which is pretty high in my opinion. Um, and my homocysteine was 11, which is high. My c reactive protein was fine, but my myeloperoxidase levels were two 74, which is like an intermediate risk. It's an inflammatory marker. Um, my lifted panels were so like my total cholesterol was 2:24, which like in a lot of people I wouldn't think was high, but I don't walk around at 2:24 for cholesterol was high for me. I'm, I'm always under$200. Um, my triglycerides were fine, but my ldl cholesterol was 1:25, which again, not particularly high for some people, but for me that's a lot higher than it should then it usually is. So, um, but like the TPO antibodies and the high tsh or what my main concerns were because, um, nobody wants to progress into full blown Hashimoto's. Right? So I'm. The only changes I made were like right away, as soon as I got my lab work, I stopped eating grains and I stopped eating sugar, like not a single grain of rice touched my leg. Um, I even stopped eating honey and maple syrup. I think over the three months before I got my labs run again. I think I had honey and slash or maple syrup, like maybe twice in like very small amounts. Um, so I got my lab work run again on the 20th of June and I got it back. And guess how many TPO antibodies? I have. Zero. I have zero. None. Oh my goodness. See? Totally gone. Like 100 percent gone. My tsh went back down to one point four eight, which is what it typically has been for me. It's usually like between one point four and one point five five. Um, my homocysteine went down from 11 to eight and a half, which is like back in normal range. Um, that's awesome. Yup. My myeloperoxidase that was elevated. Went back down. It's a 180, which is normal. Then my liquid panels. So my total cholesterol, that was at 2:24 went down to one 67, which is like normal for me. My ldl, which was at 1:25, went back down to 89, which I'm usually between like 80 and 90. Um, and then my hemoglobin a one c went down to four point six. Wow. Yeah. And all of that was in two months time, three months at three months, three months. It was no grain and no sugar, no grains and no sugar is the only change I made. No grains, no sugar. Like, talk about blow your mind. So when I went into this, my goal was like, okay, I'm going to eliminate grains because I didn't want to do like full aip paleo because that's pretty serious. Um, I don't want to give up eggs, I don't want to give up night shades or not. But like, um, most of that time I was still drinking coffee, so I was still drinking quite a bit of half and half. So, um, that was the only dairy I was having, but that's the only dairy I ever would eat. Like I don't, I don't eat like cheese or ice cream or drink milk or anything like that. Um, and so it's not like I was eating a particular high amount of grains are a whole bunch of sugar before then, but like, you know, I would whatever. Um, I haven't had gluten in years but um, but other, you know, like rice, like A. Yeah. Or like gluten free bread has teff and sorghum and all of that stuff in it. So I'm not that. I was eating a ton of that either, but I would still eat it couple times a week. So anyway, yeah, just like zero grain, zero sugar. And my goal was simply that I was hoping that my tpo antibodies had just decreased or at the very least not gotten any higher. Yeah. But totally gone. So it was really funny because, um, I had these labs, the labs that showed Hashimoto's, I had those run with my well woman practitioners. So then when I went in to talk to my primary care physician about it to kind of get her opinion on it as well. Um, she wasn't super concerned by my Tsh, but I was like, you know, my Tsh is sub clinically high and it's gone up two points over nine months. Like that's way too fast for it to be going up where the red flag is. The antibodies was like, she was like, Ooh, yeah, I don't like that at all. Um, you know, she. So she was like, yeah, wait, wait three months because. So like six to seven weeks is kind of like a fibroid cycle, how long it takes for your thyroid to be like changing the output of its hormones and the way it's working. So she was saying, you know, wait, she was like, I want you to wait two full thyroid cycles before you come back and get retested. My well, woman practitioner wanted me to wait five or six months and I was like, I can't wait that long because I need to know. So I went back in three months. Um, but anyway, so, so when I went back in to get the, my newest set of labs, the ones that I got on the 20th, when I went to pick him up, I didn't get to see my general care practitioner. I saw her nurse and this nurse only knows me as the crazy lady who refused to take antibiotics for strep throat. So she was who I saw when I had strep throat and I was like, nope, nope, not taking them. I don't care what you say, not doing it. Um, which by the way, we're not advocating that either. We're like, that's totally a personal decision you have to make, do your research and talk to someone who's knowledgeable about getting through because it's not like I just didn't take anything right. I took a whole of natural stuff. Um, anyway, so when I went in to see her, she's looking at my lab work, like my current lab work and she was like, so I'm just confused why you're here. And so I kind of gave her a backstory and she was like, okay, that makes a lot more sense now. She was like, because this is the best set of labs I've seen all month, like, you're healthier than anyone I've all month. Um, and I was like, yeah, I was like, I, you know, technically I guess have Hashimoto's that's in remission now. But, so like the takeaway for me and hopefully for anyone that is listening to this is that this is why it's important to advocate for yourself because there's not a single conventional practitioner out there. Even my primary care practitioner, like she's pretty quote unquote, crunchy. Like she's, she, you know, she's a natural path and she's an md. She's a little more empty than in the these days. I think that'S just my opinion. But, um, that's perfect though. It's a good combo. Um, it's a good combo for me because I also know what to look for on my labs and what to ask for and what, you know, what I mean, um, for like a general person that maybe health is not what's on their brain all the time. Like, I mean, she's better option than most for sure. Um, but anyway, like she would've even looked at these labs and been like nothing to really worry about. I wouldn't change anything right now, you know, but I mean like I looked at him and was like, oh hell no. And so all I did, I mean that's a pretty small change, like no grains, no sugar, like
Speaker 3:for a lot of people shard for a lot of people. And it was hard. It was not hard how dramatic it is. Yeah. It wasn't hard for me. And I think the reason that it wasn't hard
Speaker 2:was because I know what full blown hypothyroidism looks like.
Speaker 3:Right, right. and I don't ever want to go on it
Speaker 2:cause I mean that's not something that. And this is not to say that if your antibodies are, I mean, you know, mine were 99, they were high, but they're, I've seen antibody levels that are, you know, most labs only measure them up to$600. And I've seen labs come back that it's like yeah, they're just over$600. We don't know exactly where that's, they're way too high. Right. So that's not to say that this is the only intervention that somebody needs, if they have a more like a worst case scenario that's much that's progressed farther than where I was. But also the thing that's important to look at here is like, because I had my lab work run again and because I looked at it through the filter of functional medicine instead of these conventional ranges that come back on the lab work you get. Because I'm able to look at these in a different light. Like I looked down and was like man, things are not where they should be. Like this is not right. So I'm going to make a change before things get to a point where I can't get out of bed and take care of my kids. And like. So I never in all of this timeframe I never got to a point where like leaky. Sure, I definitely had some symptoms but like not not anything like what we see in our practice with patients that have hashimoto's I'm sure. And so like, this is just a true testimonial to me of like all of the things that, that we learned in school, all of the things that we preach to our clients and to anyone who will listen really, but like, like this is a real firsthand testimonial in my mind because it's my own body of like the change that we can make with these very small tweaks. Right. And so, I mean, I'm, I'm pretty excited to see, oh, so also on my, my labs in march, my cortisol levels, so I did not do a salivary cortisol. I just did a serum cortisol so it was, my laBs were run at like, I think 9:30 in the morning, but my cortisol was low. Um, so I don't know what my cortisol is like through the rest of the day because I'd have to either get more blood drawn or you know, at those times a day or I'd have to do a salivary cortisol tests that I just, I'm going to order at some point. I just haven't yet. But um, that's like what I'm working on addressing with the, the coffee. Because I know for sure that drinking too much coffee
Speaker 3:because I was like, right. Yeah. Um, but yeah, so lIke. Awesome. Jade, I'm just super excited. Yeah. So cool. I was pretty excited for you. I was pretty excited too. And I am.
Speaker 2:So after I got my labs back, I did go have tacos.
Speaker 3:Oh, with like real corn tortillas.
Speaker 2:And then I did have a. On the 4th of July I had a root beer float with light coconut milk ice cream that was full of sugar and root beer that was full of sugar. I felt like hell afterwards. I had to take a nap.
Speaker 3:I did had to take a nap, hit by a truck after adding stuff back. Yeah. Talk like it was, it was legit food coma. I was done for sure.
Speaker 2:I have zero plans to start eating grains again or to start eating sugar. I mean, you know, like my son's birthday is coming up. We're going to have gluten free pizza and I will probably have some of that and I will probably have a bite or two of cake. But like, I am certainly not going to start eating grains all the time. Again, I'm not, I mean I'm not even going to do it once a week, I'm just, they're just not a part of my life anymore because I feel like now I know that I have that propensity to like, like I, my body has the potential to move back into that hashimoto's diagnosis again. Right. So in my mind it's like I have hashimoto's that's in remission and I plan to keep it that way. Right? YUp. And you know, it was three months, it was three months. So if you imagine somebody who has those much higher elevated levels, um, that is in like crisis mode, if they make those changes, you know, maybe they drop 50 points and then after three more months they dropped 50 more points. So if you look at it that way, like yeah, it's a longer haul, but you know, then maybe in a year and a half or two years then maybe theirs is in remission to and like is a year and a half or two years, two years, three years really was really to devote to being healthy for the rest of your life in my opinion. No, it's not like it's it. How long did it take you to get into a full blown autoimmune blow out? Exactly right. It took a lifetime to get there. So being able to reverse it in that short amount of time to me. Like why would you not like, why would you not? I don't know. Pretty cool.
Speaker 3:Pretty. I don't love it. It's so awesome. Well maybe next time we have one of these little chatty conversations, uh, we can go over my lap work. I need to go get some run so we can go over It. Do it. That sounds fun. Get some done because this is, this is where, I mean I have done probably a year ago, but you know. Oh yeah, you're totally stuff. Yeah. See, I'm all about stephen, I mean I probably won't go back in for another six months, like three months from now, so it'll be six full months between labs for me, but I typically go about every six months until all of this weird shit started going on, but yeah. Yeah, you totally need to do it and nerd out. Congratulations thing. Awesome. Thanks. All right, well what do you got? You got anything else? Anything? Actually, I need to get going. I had to get out of here, but I think I'm going to say I think I'm going to go enjoy a craft cocktails. All right, bye. Bye.