Truth, Lies, Shenanigans

Majors in Major Trouble. Plus, Police Tech, Jerry Springer, and Oral Sex 'Epidemic'.

May 03, 2023 Season 4 Episode 21
Truth, Lies, Shenanigans
Majors in Major Trouble. Plus, Police Tech, Jerry Springer, and Oral Sex 'Epidemic'.
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On today's episode, we're diving into some hot topics! We're talking about some news that might be "hard" to "swallow", #OralSex is bad for your health.  Plus, new tech that's reducing police use of force  #PoliceTech, Jonathan Majors' domestic assault accuser getting a protection order  #JonathanMajors, and remembering the legendary Jerry Springer  #RIPJerrySpringer. Don't miss it!  #Podcast #HotTopics #TruthLiesShenanigans


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Jonathan Majors in Major Trouble. Plus, Police Tech, Jerry Springer, and Oral Sex 'Epidemic'.

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tss. Hey, welcome to Truth slash shenanigans podcast, social commentary, hot topics, amazing guests with a ton of fun and shenanigans along the way. This week's podcast, we're discussing the drama around a love craft country and Marvel star, Jonathan Majors. Then we're talking about how AI may be protecting people from police brutality.

We're also paying respect to the late Jerry Springer, [00:01:00] and we've got some news that may be a little hard to swallow. Oral sex causes cancer. All right? You can watch us live on YouTube, TikTok, Facebook and Twitch tv will be checking your comments on YouTube and Facebook at TLS live show or tls

So those are the best places to watch if you wanna be part of the conversation. All right, let me introduce you to my co-host, first up, we have our nature lover, gamer, rockstar coming to you from Ontario, Canada. Mr. Raw B Rock

 Happy Sunday everyone. It's really great to be here. And for those of you who don't know today is National Pet Parents Day. So this is a day of observance that falls on the last Sunday of every April and recognizes pet parents who go the extra mile to care for their fur babies.

So for all of those with fur babies, this is your day. I know that personally, our fur baby is very grateful that our [00:02:00] little visitor is gone.

Our granddaughter spent the night here Friday and our podcast was having none of it. is weird because What's your cat's name again? Ba named after Beste, the Egyptian cat goddess. Okay. All right. Yeah, that's fine. I know I'm nerdy that way. Yeah. No comment. No, right. It's so weird because our granddaughter's just so gentle and loving with the cat.

She comes in, she's quiet, she knows that she's skittish. She'll go get treats and feed her, but the cat was having none of it, but. She was sleeping at the foot of the bed in her little pup tent that she's got. Oh, that's cute. And I guess the, yeah, so the cat just really was not happy about that at all. But spending some time with the little one was just so great. We took her to comics North, which is a local comic bookstore that's been here for decades to buy her first comic book. Oh, nice. So she ended up, what'd you get picking up? Yeah.

She ended up getting something called Sweet [00:03:00] welcome. Welcome to the Jam, jam Animals. It's just in the living room, but it's just these cute little Kauai style animals that are drawn. And then she was reading through it, and then she gets, and then she's like, grandpa Pa, there's stickers in this book.

I was just like, oh, come on. I have never had a comic book with stickers. This is amazing. It is pretty cool, actually. I like that. Yeah. Love that kid. All right, next. Next up, our college student model, business owner streaming from Atlanta, Georgia. Gianni. Woo. Hey guys, I missed you. I have been suffering this Mercury retrograde, so. All of the electronics. I feel like I've had to get gas every single day for my car.

Like it's just, I don't know, I just can't wait till it's over. Are you still in the same neighborhood? Are they siphoning your gas? No, it's better over here. We're safe. We haven't had any issues. I'll let you guys know. You're living Murphy's Law? No, I did. I swear I [00:04:00] don't know what it is.

It's just strange. But I've been doing good though. I actually yesterday went to a modeling casting and Oh, nice. It felt so interesting cuz I haven't walked, I haven't went to a casting in years. And then, as you guys know, I have this scar now, so I'm not self-conscious about it, but in the modeling world, you don't know what you're gonna get.

Like I know that there's unique models, but I was just kind of nervous. But I actually made the audition and I was supposed to go back today, but I was told at the last minute, like they told me literally last night and I was like, I can't, you know, that, that I can't do that. The positive is that they have another one next Sunday.

So, awesome. So, but you made the audition. Congratulations. Good job. Yes. Yeah, I did. I knew I was gonna get it. Like my, my walk is crazy. Of course, your walk is crazy as nice. Uh, let's, those are some of my favorite [00:05:00] fail videos online on the catwalk. We got, we got some comments online. Latoya Blaker says, Hey, Rob.

Nicely done Gianni. So sorry you couldn't make it. And Jacqueline Robinson's online, she says, good evening everyone. Uh, all right. The love. It's a lot of love. Of course, I'm your host, Neo Nick. So I gotta start out with a shout out to my nephew, Owen. He was actually just left, so we were dog sitting. You were talking about the fur babies.

We were dog sitting for my sister-in-law and sometime during the course of the day. My wife went to go pick him up from, I guess, my mother-in-law's house . So we were basically turning to childcare and dog care for a little while. That's awesome. I wanna give him a shout.

That's tough. You gotta, yeah. Sometimes you just gotta do it. But he's like, he's like a great kid. I mean, he's, he's like one of the coolest kids I know. And he loves basketball. Oh. , um, like my favorite video game, as you know, Rob is uncharted. So he started playing it.[00:06:00] 

And I'm telling these kids, man, they just pick up the controller and then they, they're like, better than you are. I, it took me like years to get good att at this game. And he just like, my wanted to fit. He's crushing people. I'm like, what the heck? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. He's only like, what? Watching? I think he's 10 11 now watching my granddaughter play sandbox games like human fall flat.

There's no real objective other than trying to figure your way out through the level. And I mean, the games I grew up with were very linear. This is what you do, follow this path. Now it's just an open concept. And to hear the ideas that she's generating to try to overcome different obstacles, it's just like, man, like this is so neat.

And she's five and she crushes it where it's like, GI Peppa would not have thought of that. Where what? That's a great idea. Yes. Let's do that. Wow. Wow. Yeah. It's it's crazy. Let's get a, let's get into some hot topics.

Got some great hot topics today. So you got Jonathan Majors [00:07:00] else. What going on Johnny Storm? Okay guys, so here's a crazy celebrity story Some of you guys know actor Jonathan Major. He was in Cree three, ant Man, Avengers, and guardians of the Galaxy. The third one well, he was arrested and charged back in March with strangulation, assault and harassment .

 uh, allegations made by his ex-girlfriend, grace Jabari. So she told police that he hit and choked her, and this fight allegedly happened while the two of them were taking a taxi home from a bar. But Jonathan Major says she was hitting him, scratching and attacking him over like infidelity claims supposedly from his side.

Medical experts opinions conclude that Grace Jabbari was lying, but these weren't the actual doctors. These are just medical experts . But just earlier this month it was reported that more women have actually come forward to accuse Jonathan of abuse, cooperating with Manhattan da.

 Do you think.[00:08:00] Jonathan Major's, recent criminal allegations will have a long-term impact on his career . And how do you guys think this could affect his current roles ? Why don't you start us out ra Sure. It's Johnny, I think it's really hard to predict the long-term impact that these allegations against majors will have on his acting career.

Because it's gonna come down to the outcome of any investigations or legal proceedings. Also, how the public and the entertainment industry responds to the allegations. Right? Right. So, it's very possible that the allegations alone could negatively impact his reputation and impact future job opportunities, especially if they turn out to be true.

But it's worth noting that Hollywood has been undergoing a cultural shift when it comes to these types of allegations allegations of abuse, harassment, discrimination. Mm-hmm. And yeah, quite often we're finding the offenders are facing consequences for their actions. In terms of his current roles in the industry, it's really gonna depend on the individual [00:09:00] production companies and how they respond to the, situation.

But I think they did it what I found. Um, so with other people coming forward that establishes some form of pattern, but for this particular one, I really found it interesting. Um, and it'll be interesting to see what comes out in trial or if it's gonna be settled, but his legal team does claim that they've got a video that exonerates him and they have a witness to the incident.

So if it was happening in the back of a taxi, wow. And you know, the taxi driver is a witness and most of them have cameras in them. So then you've got the video evidence. He maintains that he didn't hit his girlfriend, that she's the one that became violent and that's already been established.

And that he acted in self-defense. As a rule, I don't hit people, but if you start yelling, screaming and striking at me, I'm going to defend myself, I'm going to push you back. I'm going to retaliate, inkind naturally with a proper, with a measured response. You know, if someone's considerably smaller [00:10:00] than me, I'm not gonna smack them around cuz Majors is fair size, dude.

Yeah, he is. And you know, he and his legal team have reportedly been cooperating with law enforcement and he's offered to take a polygraph test to prove his innocence. So this is an interesting one and I wanna see how it plays out, but like you said, Nio, with the extra allegations people coming forward, it makes things more questionable for sure.

Do you think people like bandwagon stuff? , I'm not saying this is the case with r Kelly, but that's the first thing that popped to my head. Like when one person or two people came out and then like 30 other people. And then some of the morning even true, I, because, you got Bill Cosby where like a hundred women or so are exaggerating obviously, but a lot.

But, you know, came forward because he had actually allegedly assaulted those women. Um Right. Am I surprised that more women , are coming forward? No. I mean, cuz it's an opportunity to get some money. Even if they're lying or not lying or whatever, 

I don't want to, [00:11:00] I don't wanna assume that they're not telling the truth. I don't wanna assume that. Right. Of course. And that's one of the allegations, it's one of the allegations that Majors is making is that the accusations against him were fabricated in an attempt to extort money from him. Mm-hmm.

Which, you know, it kind of makes sense, but let me, that's an obvious defense though. There's some comments online I wanna get to real quick. Well, first. Latoya Blakely wanted to say that, hey, somebody shot out the DC Defenders, they're headed to the X Ffl championship. All right. But, uh, she also says yo, this is crazy. My friend and I were talking about him the other day. I think, so Gianni look at Columbus short one allegation by his ex-wife, and we have barely seen or heard from him since. Who's Columbus Short, do you know? Oh yeah. Who's that? I dunno who he was. Um, you wouldn't know the movies he played in, but it was kind of like the B e t Hollywood type movies.

Okay. Um, Columbus Court. Wow. Yeah. That's a good, that was a good preference. Um, [00:12:00] Jacqueline Robert says he was just getting on immediate job opportunities will probably dry up. I was thinking that as for long term prospects, it depends on the outcome of the case. So, I dunno. For me, I was highly disappointed about the allegations cuz I've been a fan of majors since Lovecraft.

I mean, he was so good in Lovecraft. Oh, you in Lovecraft. I didn't even recognize. Oh good. I thought he was amazing. And then he was in that movie Harder. They fall and then he was in the Ant Man and, and everything he's done. I mean, spot on acting skills. He is so good. Yeah, he's great.

He's a good, that has a great presence. Yeah. Yes. To answer your question, do I think this will negatively impact his career? I think it will. Even if he comes out innocent. That dude was about to blow up. Like his character, Hang conqueror. Oh, he was like, is a, a huge character. He was like Thanos in all those previous Marvel movies.

So he was gonna be across all the Marvel movies. And you get something like this, Disney's gonna be like, uh, I don't know. [00:13:00] I mean, they're rumors that he, they already started writing about a sum of the scripts. I mean, they're rumors, but we don't know. But I think they'll always be true. Be questions looming.

You know, everyone's career gets affected by allegations like this, even if it's untrue now. Yeah. Do I believe he did it? I, I don't know. You know, it's hard to tell, yeah. But I do wanna mention one thing, right? People forget that women are violent too, mostly because it's under report.

We kind of forget. You know, like, think of Johnny Depp and Amber heard, Amber heard was off the, the chain. My right. I mean, Johnny Depp, it was some mutual stuff going on there, but Amber heard was off the chain. But major story is plausible, right? That he cheated and his girlfriend became pissed.

I mean, and they were drinking. It's not far. Alcohol was involved. Alcohol was involved. And that's absolutely a contributing factor when people make bad decisions, when they're under the influence, especially when they're emotional. [00:14:00] You know, I've, I told you guys in the past that I was in a relationship where I was with someone who was physically aggressive.

Oh yeah, yeah, right. So I looked up some numbers, So, national police reports and emergency room records indicate that women are 75 to 90% of the victims and reported domestic abuse cases report it. But then there's been several studies, and there's one back in 2006 that said when looking at the physical and psychological aggression between cohabitating couples with young children, it indicated that minor instances of violence were initiated by men 23% of the time, while instances of minor aggressions were ignited by women in 33% of the cases.

So more often women, initiated the aggression, and then it said, mm-hmm. In the more severe cases, it was 8.4 men. It's not funny. I mean, And 11% women , um, the most often cited reason for male initiated aggression was female [00:15:00] physical aggression.

Wow. While for female initiated aggression, it was male verbal aggression. Wow. See, so they got mad cause of something the man said versus something actually that actually did. Did right. Mm-hmm. And I think that we've all been witnesses to those types of events. I think we've all seen that over the course of our lifetime.

Yeah, because you, you know, even though movies you see men get slapped, like it's nothing, you know, like that's just normal, but Right. Slap, slap, slap, slap, slap, slap you. I can't believe you did this. What the hell? Hands off. No, no. Hitting bad touch. Yeah, there was, I got one more study. So there was one more study they did a, a larger group of people and they found about 25% of men, 25% of women initiated. aggression

It was almost half and half, right? No, the other 50% was interesting cuz they were mutually initiated violence. Right. Okay. And they found that mutual violent relationships were most likely result in injuries to women. Makes sense. [00:16:00] Right. However, women who participated in mutually violent behavior with their male partners were more likely to display a pattern of repeated violence than men.

Men's violence was more likely to be isolated and unlikely to be repeated. Now, those, again, those are Oh, that's strange. Those are percentages. That doesn't mean that, you know, everybody fits into interesting percentages. That's interesting. But yeah. Right, right. That's true. It's when you're looking at the numbers, the surveys, the, the, the studies, it are actually showing that more often women are the aggressors in domestic violence.

That's the pattern of retaliation. Yeah, I mean, that's just, that's just the numbers. Even though more women report, physical violence, and it results in more injuries, as we mentioned. But you know, I will say, um, from personal experience and growing up around plenty of women and aunts, all aunts and stuff like that, women are very violent.

So these numbers definitely do not surprise me. But [00:17:00] I don't know they're really kind of like shocking numbers, but it doesn't surprise me that women abusing men goes under reported. Like it's not as reported as much. Mm-hmm. And women being more of the abusers is not reported as much, but that's a, I've seen that very commonly, very, very common where it's like, like you said, mutual.

Yeah. Like when I was, when you, when I found interesting is when you said mutual that indicates that people, regardless of gender, can be crappy with their partners, with their significant others, so, right, right. If, if that's kind of a measured response where, you know, if you're too aggressive people.

Okay, well if it's an equal response, I found that kind of interesting. Yeah. Maybe as far as the studies are concerned. Yeah. Yeah. The numbers are interesting. But I will say, like a, as a man having been in my previous relationship where the woman was the aggressive one, it's kind of hard when you're like telling your family and your friends and stuff and Cause they start looking at you [00:18:00] like, mm-hmm, sure.

What's wrong with you? Sure. It was, it was her. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And they start wondering in the back of their minds, even though they want to trust you and believe you, they still have those questions. You get scrutinized more. You know, especially like someone like me, I grew up with a violent childhood and usually that ends up either you're the, violent person or you're a victim.

You either turn out, yeah. And it turns out I was the other way around, so, you know, but people always inherently question. So I could see for years him being questioned and then the other thing we failed to mention was the racial aspect of this. Because, you know, white girl tears all over again.

And then the stereotypes. Think about like the first thing that comes to your mind when you see Jonathan Majors and that small white girl. You, I mean, it's like mano man attacks, a helpless little white, white woman. You know? I mean, that's the image that you get in your head and that's the stereotype that people build in their minds.

And so, you know, it's like he has a greater bird of proof because of his race, [00:19:00] gender, and physical stature than this woman does. So she can say that, Hey, I was beat up by Jonathan Majors. He has to be the one to prove he didn't. And, and I don't know, I don't know if that's fair to him, but with that being said, I don't know if he did it or not.

He could be right if he didn't. A crappy dude. He really could if he didn't do it. Crappy dude. Uh, because. Some of these actors are crazy. Some of these actors are like you. You really don't know 'em until you, you really know a lot of them. So yeah, he could, he could be a crappy dude. Don't. So I'm, but I don't wanna rush the judgment.

That's all I wanna say. That's all my point was you gotta see the evidence. All right. So, exactly. Okay, so Columbus Short was in Stomped the Yard. Oh, I know who you're talking about now. That was the movie. I was gonna say Step Up. I forgot the yard. I didn't exactly who you're talking about now. Okay. Oh, Jack Robinson.

That body though.

Hey, Olivia agreed with that. She's like, yep. Yeah. All right. Uh, Jack [00:20:00] Robinson also says young men aren't taught to walk away anymore. If you get in their face, some of them will slap you in the middle of next week. That's true. They will. They will. The younger guys. That's true. They do not care. Their mothers are different.

They, they taught them differently. I'll just say that. That's very true. I mean, that is one of the things that. They're not taught because I was taught to walk away, you know? Yeah. So it's, it's sort of take it, you know, you're, you're a man. You can't hit a woman. So I always heated that you, you know, I'm a man.

I can't hit a woman, and I never would. But with that being said, yeah, I haven't been in a situation where I was hit and I'm like, well, I, I'm not, I didn't, I didn't hit back, but I certainly defended myself, you know, get off me, you know, those type of things. But of course. Mm-hmm. Of course. But with that being said, I could have been in a situation where she was like calling the police on me and being like, and I was the one putting jail when I was not aggressive at all, so.

Right. I know. Yeah. I could've turned bed bad. Is this [00:21:00] truth? Lies, lies. Shenanigans, shenanigans, shenanigans. Ooh. I don't know. Is it truth or, I think it's both a truth and a lie. Somebody's lying. I think we've got some truth and lies, which makes it shenanigans. Yeah, shenanigans. Cause both sides of this coin are claiming the truth.

So that's shenanigans. And I don't know, I, it's so hard to really tell. I mean, There does seem to be more proof leaning towards Jonathan Majors, his story. I will say that. Well, that said, if he has a witness Okay. And they have, if their story is that they have a witness and a video that exonerates him, then yeah, this happened inside the cab and they have a full document of what happened.

Yeah. So it, yeah, it is more leaning that he's not this evil dude that they're making him out to be. So we'll see. We'll see. All right, we'll see. All right. Let's get some next time. Shenanigans. Hired people. Raise yourselves for a . Uhoh [00:22:00] boy, jaw dropping Discussion People magazine reported that oral sex is a leading factor in throat cancer, a throat cancer epidemic.

Dr. Hasan Muhanna says people with six or more lifetime oral sex partners are 8.5 times more likely to develop throat cancer. The cancer is caused by the human papillomavirus or H P V, which can be transmitted through oral sex. And she says it is leading to a huge surge in throat cancer cases, especially among middle-aged men.

All right, guys, before you dive in, my question is, does this mean. Everyone should just be quitting on the foreplay. And keep in mind, we are trying to keep this a family podcast, so I'm gonna ask you to please be careful what comes out of your mouth.[00:23:00] 

We'll start with Gianni. Are we about to experience an oral lesson on what not to do? Okay. So this honestly though, this just makes me wanna be celibate in every way, shape, or form. I just feel like there's, wow. Yeah, that's, you guys don't think this is, but No, for you, dude. No, this is gross. I don't want cancer of the throat.

I, I read a little bit into it. It said that throat cancer used to be something more because of like smoking and tobacco and stuff, but H P V has become like the leading thing that has caused the throat cancer. Mm-hmm. And the fact that it's linked to oral sex sounds almost like sinful. But now I did say that it was mostly, it's the number, number of partners with HPV that you've come to contact with.

You're right. So the more partners you have, you know, come on, let's, let's be honest, , you can't be like [00:24:00] promiscuous. But, but the thing is, it's, it's mostly men catching it. So it didn't clarify whether or not this was gay men, but it was, it's men, it's men are, are more likely to get the throat cancer. But with that being said, that means that men should be less likely going down on women, it sounds like to me. I, I'm just curious how you feel about that. If they start giving guidance out that says, men avoid this throat cancer, men need to stop going down on women.

How do you feel about that? Oh, come on then. I feel like it's white, white men in power flexing their freaking power. If that comes through, its legislation. That's bull. Why are you trying to restrict your family? No, I don't like that. I think that honestly, it said that the number of partners, so as long as you have like a, a girlfriend, a wife, you shoot, have at her like, I don't know, like, like you don't [00:25:00] need to like go to multiple people.

That's where the problem comes in. So this is actually a test of like, monogamy being faithful.

You. Shut up, man. Like, please don't win a good thing. What? It was an interesting article. I felt there was an interest to bring to light. Abso I've always thought of myself as a cunning linguist, and I wanted to approach this in a tongue in cheek manner. But I decided to tread lightly because like oral sex, one slip of the tongue, and I could find myself in some real shit.

So I'm so glad that the intro landed well, I was afraid that I might choke under pressure. Oh my gosh. You're welcome. You're a CN linguist, huh? That was good. But I'm glad that we've covered some of the actual facts because oral sex does carry some degree of risk for STIs. It's a sexual activity. The risk of transmission varies [00:26:00] depending on several factors like we were talking about.

The number of sexual partners, the use of protection such as condoms or dental dams, the presence of any existing STIs. Because like Neil said, HPV can be transmitted through oral sex and it is the leading source of throat cancer, which is scary. But vaccination against H P V and practicing safe sex can reduce the risk of transmission.

It's like anything else. If you're engaging in sexual behavior, be safe. So ultimately, I know that this can be a lot to swallow, but if we come together safely, we can end this nice lot to swallow.

 That was really good. You're all, you're welcome. All right. So I think it's the same with limiting your sexual activity, your risk anyway, with any sexually transmitted disease. You know, it's the value of limiting the number of relationships that you have.

And keep those relationships stop going down on the first date. You know the heck. Just make that a special thing for the special person you're with. You know what I'm saying? [00:27:00] Good one, Nina. That was a good, when you have an idea that you want this relationship to go somewhere, then you know Yeah.

Then you start getting you trust thing. You ain't gotta, you ain't got get on everybody, but on date one. Yeah. What are you doing? It's sad. This is sad. Uh, no, the report did, of course, say that it was more likely that men were getting this,

maybe it's, it doesn't matter. It's, it's hpv. Yeah. Hpv, they said it's very common, , you mentioned, dental dams, Rob, but, but I was reading that dental dams aren't very effective against hpv. I mean, it's more effective than nothing, obviously. Right? Exactly. It's something it's something rather than nothing.

And we're just talking about, and I'm just throwing out precautions that they are providing. That they're guiding the public to use. Yeah. Celibacy, celibate. But if you have a partner, you guys have part, you guys have people I'm talking about for the single folk. Dude, this is for young people. This is a cautionary tale for young people like Neos after 26, you can't get the vaccine on first date. [00:28:00] Yeah. And I'm sorry. Once you reach a certain point in your life, you've had X amount of sexual partners. There's no going back on it.

You already have HPV now. This is Abso Exactly. So this is just a cautionary tale for people who are starting to experiment, limit your sexual activity. Yeah, sure. It's great. It's fun. It feels amazing. Not fun. You're gonna get better at it, but be safe while you're figuring it out. Oh, most of the population already has HPV vx point.

Most of the adult population. That's the most, yeah, it's the most common sti. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. That's gross. Uh, one thing I did want to say was that that CDC did say that they couldn't tell if the throat cancer was a combination of risk factors. So it could be, I read that, HPV V along with smoking.

Smoking. Mm-hmm. So just keep that in mind. Smoking and vaping. So, All right. We got some comments online. Let's, a lot of people still vape. Michael Wolf says Michael Douglas [00:29:00] said that was how he got throat cancer. Oral sex. Hmm. Going down. What? Uh, Latoya Blake says, this is straight up shenanigans.

Fuck People Magazine. It's amazing. Oh, it's from People Magazine. Okay. Wait a minute. She said I haven't had that many partners anyway, so I'm all good. If they stop going down, I stop. It's just that damn simple. She, she's out, she said, exactly. Gianni, I'm, I'm so good on all of that. I'd rather be celibate than popping up with at my age, almost 40 with some crazy stuff.

Yes. Now see, that's fair. You feel a hot mess. Jacqueline Robinson made a good point. She said there was an epidemic of HPV v throat infections among high school students. A few years ago, the students wanted to remain virgins and figured they could engage in this particular activity without harm. Ooh.[00:30:00] 

Well, they they try to find all kinds of loopholes don't they? Loopholes, don't they? Ah, good job. Iv. I like those straight up. We're gonna end it on that one. This is true. Live shenanigans. I'll go with shenanigans. Shenanigans. We still doing some, some people You gonna, what? No, this, this has to be lies.

Dirty. Dirty lies. We have to stop the spread of these lies. Good. Lies. Good one. Yeah. Nah, I'm still, I'm still gonna do what we are going to do. All right, Rob. B.

Be careful. You've got some more uses for artificial intelligence. Go ahead. I do. As we've discussed several times on our podcasts police services need some type of reform and we've been very curious and vocal about ai. In recent years, there has been a growing interest in using AI and big data to enhance policing practices.

[00:31:00] So trulio, a technology company based out of San Francisco, California believes this technology is an indispensable tool to help police IDE officers identify potential threats, provide situational awareness, and generate alerts for suspicious behavior. So one such technology that has gotten a attention recently is the AI powered police body camera.

So it uses computer vision and deep learning algorithms to detect, analyze objects and people in real time. However, as with any new technology, there are potential concerns around privacy bias, ethical considerations. So my question to you is, could AI be the tool that leads to better policing start things off?

So, you know, while AI is awesome and clearly can help reduce police brutality, use of force, to some extent, I still say it seems like a bandaid to me, right? And that that's cuz it doesn't address the root [00:32:00] causes of the issues. I think there's more underlying factors like racial and social inequities, definitely lack of proper training and of course accountability.

Now AI obviously this tool can help with accountability better because I would understand that, right now we're probably looking at about 0.1% of the actual videos out there. Whereas this tool can actually review a hundred percent of all the video and be able to take a look and see when their problems.

So, you know, right now, accountability, we have none of that. Still, even with the cameras, there's really no accountability, mm-hmm. You know, but the thing is, over time, it's just a matter of learning how to fool the technology. I mean, that's all it's gonna be. If we don't solve the other problems, all they gotta do is figure out how to get around the technology.

It's like with cameras, like we have these cameras on the highways and things like that. All you gotta do is learn when to stop, learn where the cameras are. You start, they started creating Google. Slow down, you know, ways let you know when the cameras are coming up.[00:33:00] All you gotta do is counteract the technology and that's all that's gonna happen if we just dependent totally on ai.

So ensuring that the police force receive proper training, deescalation culture sensitivity, better understanding of mental health issues, you know, community policing, socioeconomic inequalities. These are the things we gotta start looking at. So that's my thought. I love the ai. You know, I love ai.

I'm a big proponent of ai, but I just think it's. I don't think it's enough. But it's a good start. Go ahead, Gianni. I agree. But I disagree in the sense where you said it's a bandaid. I think that it's more so just a early on tool, but a tool in a sense, because it does hold accountability, but it also keeps record of, from what I'm understanding, certain language or language used profanity, which I thought was interesting, but it keeps record.

So it's almost like causing this like standard for police that really could cost you your job if [00:34:00] you're a police officer. So it's like you're coming into this job knowing how you have to come.

So, I don't know. I think that the traffic system is a good point, but with this, I think that this is a good technology, but honestly, when I first heard it, I was like, is this a way to record and download like police behavior so they can make some type of robocop?

Like, this is so weird. But I think if used intelligently and with a real purpose other than, oh, let's catch these people and hold them accountable. It could really set a standard. It says 36%. Um, it's not in very many police stations because of the affordability, but I think they could use that, honestly, especially the rural ones.

One thing I do wanna say about this, 36%, so this particular California police department was already doing very well when it came to use of force. This was just an added thing. So Basically, if they resolved one use of force issue, And they would get a high percentage rate anyway because [00:35:00] they had , oh, it's not that big deal.

So skew use of force incidents. So if they solved one, then yeah, you get a 30%, 6%. That's a huge impact, right? So I mean, so that's not a good, it's a little bit skewed, but the other nuance I want to point out is there's a difference between AI and machine learning.

And actually I think this is more machine learning that's being referred to as ai, which machine learning right there's or less intuitive nature to it. It's more of about, um, you know, these are the parameters I want you to look for, find them, you know, and that's what okay.

Machine learning is about versus ai, which can actually act like a human and kind of take a look and start to see things that are, that maybe you didn't specifically set parameters for assignment and starts to notice. Somebody doing something different. So this is not exactly AI either, so I just wanted to point those two things out.

But go ahead, Robbie. That's so interesting. Yeah. Well, you pulled up those images while Johnny was speaking. If you could [00:36:00] pull those up again, please. Yeah, so these are some of the metrics that it measures. So it ra, it rates police officers for risk, behavior and professional behaviors. So formality explanations, politeness, gratitude for your professionalism.

So some of the interactions that are listed here. Hello ma'am. I am Officer Smith with the Chicago Police Department. The reason I pulled you over is for doing 60 miles per hour and a 40 miles per hour zone. May please see your license registration. Thank you, ma'am. A very professional, courteous, polite interaction.

Right. Um, and then in the risk category, they're looking for direct profanity, insult, threats, profanity. So, you know, hey, dummy, sit down on this curb. I move you from here. If you move from here, I'll, I will break your legs. I don't give a expletive f you direct profanity. So these are risk behaviors and if you're monitoring, if you're recording these in interactions and the AI is recording these and giving you metrics on it, now you [00:37:00] can establish, you can identify things at the root.

And the nice thing is it gives you a synopsis. So Officer Smith, uh, with this interaction, you know, 70% standard, 20% high, gives him a total of 90%. Um, you know, high professionalism, giving ex uh, explanations, risky behavior swore. So I think that if you are out in field, and especially when you're in a hot situation, the adrenaline's going.

You may not be fully aware of what's going on you, of how you're reacting to things. So I think that having a good metrics tool like this to report on every interaction that you are having is a great way to improve. So I don't think that it's the cure for it, Nio. Mm-hmm. But it is a wonderful tool where we can finally collect those metrics and you bring in accountability when you have that.

Because if you have an officer who is flagging risky behaviors consistently, and the administration, their [00:38:00] supervisors aren't taking action on it, then it falls squarely on them. You have that paper trail all the way. You know, I think of someone like Derek Chauvin, where it came up that he had a rich history of aggressive behavior.

Well, ah, you know what? Problem officers like that could be identified early and we could work to either train them better. Or to weed them out of the system, they can, they can go into private security, but they don't need to be policing the citizenry because they're clearly not cut out for it. So I think this is a wonderful tool for identifying those bad apples and getting them out.

And the cost affordability, the lack of market penetration right now, you know, it's not there, but if they can make it affordable and prolific, I think that this is a tool that can affect some real change over time. Shouldn't be, I just think it needs to be, it just needs to be supplement. It needs to be a supplemental tool or a complimentary tool, because you still [00:39:00] have to make sure they're trained properly.

Because even if this tool identifies something, it doesn't matter if you don't train them to do better, right? So mm-hmm. You know, it, it, so, there like a national thing that has a standard of how police are trained? Because aren't you supposed to be trained to be, be a police? Like how, how do you do that?

I don't think there's a national standard. Um, okay, but that's a good question. How no. Should there be a national standard, uh, for, for policing? And, and maybe, I mean, maybe that's something maybe, but, but then the states are gonna fight that, you know, that's, that's gonna be Yeah. Cuz Chicago is different than, yeah.

And that the, I don't know, there should be a, I don't think it. Right. And that's the thing cuz every locality is different. You know, if you're in Montana, do you really need to have the same training that you know you have to have in New York? Eh, probably not. No. So do, is there a national standard that we, there are some things that we can probably standardize?

No. There Yes. You need to have a national standard because even if you were to, in, if it's not, like you said like New York versus Montana. Okay, but what if you have that scenario play [00:40:00] out in Montana, you've never received that training. Oh, true. You've never received that nugget of knowledge. Good point.

No. You need to have a national standard for policing so that it is across the board. And the, I just, I don't understand policing and appointments and counties and sheriffs. It's, it's crazy. In the states, it's, it's the wild west. You're voting for law enforcement. Shut up. No. Put the right people in place.

Yeah. Yeah. Some popularity context. It needs to be some police reform. I mean, like I say, this is a tool. Oh yeah. A part of it. Uh, but you gotta look at the role and responsibilities of law enforcement in our society. And right now they get called for every little issue. You know, you gotta start looking at alternative models, especially when it comes to like mental health issues.

You gotta start looking at other things. Yeah. Let's get these comments on the, we gotta comment from, uh, Jacqueline Robinson. Why can't us police officers undergo the type of training their counterparts receive in other countries? I worry that some will find their way around the technology, and that's my concern.

There's gonna be ways around it. Uh, it just can't be the only [00:41:00] solution. That's my only concern. All right. Is this true? Lies lies, shenanigans. Shenanigans. Not some truth. I feel like it's true. I feel like they're trying to make a step towards the right direction, even though it's, it's a good tool. It's a really good tool.

Tool. It's a step towards reform. It's, it's a tool that can lead to reform if used properly. If used properly. Right. And it's not just cameras. Cameras have to take advantage of it. I mean, and actually, if you think about it, it is sort of like just ca right now it's just cameras on the highway, but at least those cameras are getting reviewed that that con, you know, wanna make money off of it or right now.

Sure. Right. All those, all those cameras that they're wearing and all that footage is not getting reviewed. It's just getting stored in case there's a problem. Exactly. To review it afterwards. Case it needs to be brought into question. Yep. Great topic, Rob. All right, Gianni, you're up. Next. Shenanigans. You wanted to talk about the death of an icon?

Yes. Jerry. [00:42:00] Jerry, I had to, I had to intro that way. So maybe you guys have heard of the news this week that TV host Jerry Springer died peacefully, um, at his home after a small battle with pancreatic cancer. He was 79. Mm-hmm. So we all know Jerry for his ratchet, maybe reality TV show. His show, his show actually ended in 2018 and after 27 years, 4,000 episodes and many people questioning Jerry Springer's role in the decline of American culture.

Despite that Jerry Springer's show was a ratings powerhouse, was so, um, Springer also told, Cnn, C n n one time that he did not mind being referred to as the grandfather of trash tv. So my question to you guys is, what is your opinion on Jerry Springer's impact on television and pop culture? Well, hmm. Um, so like you were saying, Johnny Jerry Springer's show where the Jerry [00:43:00] Springer show was widely criticized, uh, for exploiting vulnerable guests sensationalizing their personal problems for entertainment.

But despite this, he provided a platform for people from a multitude of backgrounds and experiences to share their stories, their perspectives, and it helped break down taboos around topics like sex, relationship, L G B T, uh, Q issues. He also, the show also addressed controversial issues and political topics such as abortion, rape, poverty, and sparked public discussions around these debates.

So it also raised awareness on domestic violence, substance abuse, and it provided resources for those that were in need. It also highlighted the importance of freedom of speech and expression. While the show faced numerous attempts at censorship and cancellation, and Jerry Springer had a short political career, uh, dis and it didn't really go anywhere, right?

Oh, late seventies. It, yeah, in the late seventies, early eighties, he had a political stint. What? Oh, he used his TV [00:44:00] platform to advocate for progressive causes and social justice issues. Um, l LGBTQ rights, criminal justice reform. So in the end, I think that he had a greater impact on American discourse than he would've had as a politician.

So as a TV host also, he gave us Steve Wilcos, right? And the guy, I mean, what I loved about Gary Springer, you know, voted worst show on tv. And when they were voted the worst show on tv, they were unabashedly proud of it. It was plastered all over their sets. It was amazing. Sad Steve Wilcos. Really? Yes. I love Steve Wilcos.

Thank you Johnny. Thank you. Yeah, that was What is wrong with people? It was depressing, but it was a depressing show. No, what, what is wrong? You people. I love Steve Wilcos. How about you, Neil? It's a good, it's a good measure to see how much I'm winning in life. I just tuned into those shows and then I see how much I'm actually a That's good point.

That is, [00:45:00] it helps you. It's therapeutic. That's what my, you know, that's funny. That's what my wife said about when she watches Ratchet TV makes her feel good about her life. I'm like, really? All right. I can't watch it. Rat watch's not so bad, right? No. I watched Jerry Springer all the time back in the day and like in the early years when he first came out.

Cause I thought it was fun, you know? But at some, it's funny point, funny, at some point it got to be just contrived fighting and it just got to be boring to me. You know? It was like, yeah. At first I thought people were fighting for real and, and they probably were actually. But in the beginning, some were, some were scripted, some were acted.

Yeah. You know? Yeah. But it got to be like watching wrestling, you know, and it's all fake. And you're like, ah, I can't watch this crap anymore. I just can't, you know? I don't know. But you know, Jerry, Jerry was good at what he did. You know? He was, he was good at what he did. He was, it wasn't, I, you know, I even tried to watch it later in the, in the later years, and I just, I couldn't, couldn't Meer.

I knew it was fake. I knew what was coming. It's the same thing every time, every show. Yeah. It anywhere [00:46:00] It's predictable, but it's sad that, you know, he, it's a smart move though. He knew what he was doing and marketing that kind of like those kind of stories, like everybody watched. How'd you feel, Johnny?

Because you, you really didn't know, you didn't know Jerry Springer when he was, what was back in the eighties when, when did his Jerry Springer still start? Late eighties, early nineties, I think. Late early nineties. Yeah. I think so. I mean, I, so that was when, that was when the show was good in the beginning.

I didn't start first episode. Uh, Jerry, first episode of the Jerry Springer show was September 30th, 1991. 91. Oh, I was officially graduated at high school at that point. Yikes. I had not graduated yet. That's so cute. So wait, did you guys watch what ev around that time when Yeah, when Jerry came out, that's when it was good.

Really? Mm-hmm. That's so cute. I didn't watch until like 2005, 2006. Yeah. You were watching reruns. We, we saw it [00:47:00] as it was happening. As the debacle was happenings the spiral. Yeah. And then Lori came. So Kevin Jackson confirmed nineties. Yeah. All. So what were your thoughts Yani? How, when you were sad, Um, yeah, because it's kind of like a little nostalgic, like a part of your childhood.

You guys were older by then, so you didn't really care about him, but like, when I was growing, so when I was growing up, it was part of the, like in the background like Mory and Jerry and um, my grandmother's, uh, my grandmother's soaps and stuff like that. So it is a little, it's sad, but he did live a long life.

I mean, and he was famous and wealthy, so he had a good life, to be honest. But yes, probably, probably watched soaps too. You know what, I only watched, it's funny you should mention it, cuz in high school I started watching soap operas cuz all my female friends were watching them. And after about a week or two, I was just like, ah, you know what?

This is really garbage. I hate this. But then I had worked a construction [00:48:00] job years later and I had worked seven tens two months straight. So I was begged by the end of it. So I chose not to work for a couple days, seven tens or seven days, 10 hours of day hours a week, 10 hours. And I was commuting about three hours total.

So it was, they were long days. So then when I decided to just stop working for a short period, I was on the couch and then I started watching soap operas. And as I was watching it, I was just like, I. Okay. Like this is, years later, nothing's changed. I feel like I'm all caught up with the characters already.

This is stupid tv. This is just, it is so dumb, stupid tv. I hate soap opera. I never, my God understood it. Yeah. So, no, not a soap opera guy, my friend. Yeah. Okay, good. Good for you. Cuz I tried, I did. I think the same thing happened to me where I was like, I was off from school or something in the summer and I had nothing to do and I started watching.

Oh yeah, I got watched as the world turns or something like that. And I got into her for a little while and I was like, this is just dumb. I was just like, and I couldn't watch it. I went back to my cartoons. Yeah. I [00:49:00] loves, I'll always go do that. Let's comments online. Um, oh, this is a good, good little tidbit.

Mike. Mike Wolf comes with a tidbit. We need Mike Wolf on more often. But Jerry Springer had to resign as a Cincinnati city councilman is because he paid a prostitute, paid for a prostitute with a check. Did you know that? Hmm? Who else do we know? Did that I did not know that Trump, Donald Trump. Did Trump do that?

Oh yeah. Sounds like a Trump move. No, no. He just, he paid hush money to a porn star. He didn't pay to have sex with her. He paid hush money. Oh, this is a good point, cuz I, I think Embarra, I think this is, yeah. So Jacqueline Robinson says he actually started out wanting to help his guests, often referring them to counselors and other services.

I remember that actually. Um, however, thanks to Rick Ricky Lake, his show took a trashy turn. Thanks Ricky. Really? After that, I remember that. All right. Um, it's tricky. Late. Oh, [00:50:00] tell you. Looking up Ricky Lee. She's know Jerry. No, she was not Jerry. Alright. Uh, Jacqueline Robinson also said the producer skillfully manipulated guests in the green room.

Uh, by the time they came out on stage, they were riled up, ready to fight. It fascinated me. It fascinated me that women would fight over the ugliest, most trifling, stupidest men imaginable. Oh my goodness, dad. And, and vice versa. I was And vice versa. Vice versa. Vice versa. Yes. Very true. The craziest couples in situations like, yeah.

All right. Good. Is this true? I wish you had a clip. I wish you had a clip to show them for good old time sake. This is true. It's, it's true. Poor rest and peace. Dear. What? Like you said, Johnny and Peace. He lived a long life. He, he did what he wanted, so he rocked it, man. Well done, Jerry. Oh, yes. You live? Oh yeah.

Michael Wolf says, Ricky Lake was the star of the original Hairspray [00:51:00] movie. You may remember her from there. Oh, okay. I know who you're talking about. Okay. All. All right. I'll tell you. Mike Wolf with the tidbits. All right.

All right. Today's game is, this is National mu, excuse me. This month is National Poetry Month. I thought I'd test out our knowledge on some poetry trivia. Oh God. All so well go around the horn, two cues, and this trivia quiz is provided by the Washington Post, so you'll get a point for every correct answer, and the person with the most points wins the final thought for the show.

All right, so I'm gonna give the first one to Rob. B. Or do you want the first one? Gianni, you wanna start? Yeah. Hey, come on. Oh, we'll give it to Rob. You already. You can't. You can't, can't. I could take back. I could do. Take Bies. No, take that. All right, Robbie. Haku typically consists of three lines with five, seven, and five syllables.

Often they contain seemingly straightforward observations about the world. [00:52:00] Here's one example by Richard Wright. White caps on the bay, a broken signboard banging in the April wind. Where did Haiku originate? United States. Interesting. And China Or England? Japan. Japan. It sounds Japanese. Yeah, it sounds Japanese.

That is correct. Correct. The Sun shines brightly. You're a master of Haiku. Japan is correct. Thanks. Good job, Rob. That's good. That's good. He gave the answer in a haiku. All right. All right. Gianni Robert Frost. Okay. The Road Not Taken by American poet Robert Frost is one of the most famous poems in the United States.

See if you can fill in the blank in these lines from the end of the poem, two roads, blank in a wood. And I, I took the one less traveled by [00:53:00] and that has made all the difference. Would that be Ran side by side? Came together, I merged. Went deep so the road. Not taken. Two roads, two roads. Ran side by side in a wood ran side by side.

In the wood already know the answer is incorrect. Diverge goodness. Oh. I wanted to win that one to make America proud. In incorrect. You make people proud. Two roads diverge. Sorry, America. Sorry. America. Kevin Dax got the Japan answer. Correct. All right, next up is me. Number three. Maya Angelou is known for a poetry, but she also won several major entertainment awards.

Which awards as she won Amy Award, Grammy Award, Oscar Ward, Tony [00:54:00] Award. Don't know actually Maya Angelou. I'm going to say it's either Grammy or Tony, I think. Um, I don't really know. I don't have the answer to this one. So I'm gonna go with, I'm gonna go with Grammy and assume that she had a a, a poetry album or something.

I was correct? Yes. What? Yes. What? We can't, we can't see the answers. Yeah, we You can't see the answers. Oh, the answers aren't up. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't even realize the answers weren't even up. Yeah. So I was just like, come on, man. He's making this up now. No, I'm gonna it to you. I'm gonna show it to you

again. Again. I didn't realize it. I didn't realize it'd come down. All right. So here we go. There you go. Shoot. She won a Grammy. Good for her. Yep. Do you want a Grammy? How Hello Has won three Grammy awards for recordings of her poems in the best spoken word, album category. So Kevin Dax had guest Emmy and he was wrong.

Ha ha. All right, Robbie, you're up next. True or false? Most of Shakespeare's plays, including Romeo and Juliet and Hamlet, are written in the form of poetry. True or false? What? Geez. Well, at least it's 50 50. Yeah. Lucky at you. I gonna say true. From what I remember, it seems to [00:55:00] true. That is correct. That is correct.

Interesting. All right. Oh, cause it rhymes or, oh, okay. It says it well. Shakespeare. Oh, you're, that's so funny. Cause prior to the show when Neo said it was gonna be about poetry, I was like, the only thing I remember about poetry is from grade school. And that's I amik penter. So I love that it's comeback.

Full circle. All right, full circle shakes. Shakespeare. User wrote in a kind of poetry known as I Amik pentameter. Uh, typically each line of his plays contains 10 syllables and every other syllable is stressed or emphasized. Interesting. Consider this line from Romeo and Juliet, but soft what? Light through yonder, window breaks.

Yeah, that's, I don't know if I said that in, I ambit in Tater, but you did good. That was good. It was definitely English. I'll give you that. All right. Gianni was, which poet wrote where the sidewalk ends and light in the attic, as well [00:56:00] as the picture book. The Giving Tree. Would that be Shell Silverstein, Dr.

Seus, Maurice Cak or Louis Sachar. I know too that it's not, oh my, oh, I don't think it's Dr. Seus and I don't think it's Cak. I agree. Agree with you. Actually. I think it's Sherry Silverstein cuz I remembered the little name. I think it is. Please be it. So I don't look. That is Kurt. That's nice. Gianni store.

Good job. Make America proud. Make America proud. Right. Hold on, Johnny. That's right. Shell Silverstein. He was a poet. Songwriter and cartoonist. Well done, Gianni. Oh cool. Amazing. All right, so the only way that Gianni's still in it is if I can answer this. Oh, this is so easy. This is easy. Incorrect. All right.

Baltimore Raven's team was inspired by which American poet? Emily Dickinson. Langston Hughes. Walt Whitman or Edgar Allen Poe [00:57:00] Atwood. Raven Edgar Allen Poe. That is no way. All right. Why? Team was named after the Raven Cartoons. Man Poem. Baltimore resident. Edgar Allen Poe. So 1996 fans chose the name for the city's new team, which had been the Cleveland Browns.

Hi Robbie. We're gonna take the last one together. All right. Oh, he was a resident. Sorry. You're outright Gianni, sorry, buddy. In his book, lemonade Poet, Bob Ratz, Raza. Xa, yes. I dunno if I'm saying that right. Showed that a whole poem could be made by rearranging the letters of a single word. Here's one example.

Ball reaches here. ACEs clear. Cheers. Ooh, that poem uses letters from one word. What is that word? Baseball. I'm going with bleachers. Oh, darn it. [00:58:00] There's ch You got it. Neil Bleacher. Yeah, it's gonna be bleachers. Yay. It's, it's about baseball. Yay. Yay.

So looking back, darn it, we got Mike Wolf, I ambi, Penter, Romeo and Juliet from Jacqueline Robinson. Kevin Dax, guest Shell sealed. Stein, uh, you also guest Poe, being from Baltimore. All right, Merkel. I would've never my life guessed that.

Let's close it out with some shout outs. All right, Gianni. Um, shout out to my brother, my only brother in the world. I love you so much. He's having a baby boy. He just found out today and congratulations. I love you and I can't wait to see you. Wow. Congratulations first. [00:59:00] That's amazing. Happy. Aww. His first son.

That's amazing. Oh, amazing. Yeah. Sweet. My shout out is hello to Barbara Morris of the uk, who for her 90th birthday went for a ride on a Harley Davidson. She had told her kids that if she ever made it to 90, that she would want to ride on the back of a Harley Davidson. And to her surprise, her kids made it happen with the help of a local biker gang.

Oh, that's nice. That's pretty cute. Yeah. She used to ride a motorcycle as a young girl in her fifties. She's been riding and then that's it. She was like, I wanna feel the wind on my face one more time. And they made it happen. They took her out to a pub her. That's awesome. I love that. That's a really good one.

Love that. Love that. All right, so I wanna, I wanna shout out Dennis Malik Barnes. He's a black 16 year old, new New Orleans senior. Who's already earned 27 college credits and has a grade point [01:00:00] average of 4.98. Wow. Dudes amazing so far. He's gotten scholarship offers from about 130 universities totalling $9 million.

Dennis? Yes. Malik Barnes. Congratulations, buddy. Wow, amazing. Amazing. Congratulations. That's amazing and very impressive. Keep it up, man. That's amazing. Good job. All right. Wow. That is officially all the time we have for today's show. I'd like to thank you all for joining us. We hope you learned something, Aden New perspec perspective, or simply had some laughs with us.

We will be back recording our podcast next week. Live as usual, 7:00 PM Eastern Time. Don't forget to check out our video clips. Subscribe to us on YouTube using tls And look for our official audio podcast episodes on Tuesdays, on Apple Podcast, Spotify, anywhere you listen to your podcast. And I am the winner for the final thought of the show, but I'm gonna [01:01:00] turn it over to Rob b cuz he has a special, special closing part for you.

Aw. Uh, thanks my friend. So, for a final thought, I would like to quote The late Great Jerry Springer, take care of yourself and each other. Love it. Thank you so much. Oh, don't cry. Oh, well, thank you Rob. B. Thank you Gianni. But most importantly, we always have to thank you. We're listening and watching our shenanigans each and every week.

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