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State of Play Reactions: Wolverine Brings the Pain
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Tony, Jaime, and Vance dive headfirst into Sony’s latest State of Play, and let’s just say—claws were OUT. Wolverine absolutely stole the show, bringing the kind of brutal, up-close-and-personal combat that made everyone both hyped and slightly concerned for digital NPC safety. The crew debates whether the game should be open-world or more God of War–style, ultimately agreeing that Logan probably doesn’t need to Uber across Canada for side quests. They also break down the healing factor mechanics, costume controversies (yes, people are mad about self-healing jackets), and possible X-Men cameos. Beyond Wolverine, the team touches on other reveals, including a mysterious God of War spin-off that may or may not survive Jaime’s “No Kratos, No Party” rule. It’s reactions, hot takes, and classic Good2Game chaos straight from the bar setup.
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00:01.62
Tony Sisk
Hi folks, welcome back to Good2GameRadio. I'm your host Tony speaking. And again with me tonight is Jaime and Vance. Fellas, what's going on? Good to have everybody back.
00:12.59
Jaime G
Special guest star, Vance.
00:15.38
Tony Sisk
Yeah, on the borrowed computer.
00:15.74
Sentfrmheaven
Hey, on the bar computer. That's right. That's right. The bar set up, but we are here. We are ready for action.
00:24.18
Tony Sisk
Awesome. Yep, well, so on tonight's episode, we are reacting to Sony's State of Play that dropped a few days ago. And you know they had a lot of stuff in that State of Play, but I think of mainly we're we're we are interested in a couple of bigger titles that they gave us a lot of gameplay on.
00:52.22
Tony Sisk
So you guys ready to get into that?
00:55.32
Sentfrmheaven
Ready.
00:55.74
Jaime G
Good, absolutely.
00:57.63
Tony Sisk
All right. Who wants to start us off? What what ah what's stood out to you?
01:06.80
Jaime G
I think everyone here wants to say Wolverine and just like scream it, right?
01:12.79
Sentfrmheaven
Wolverine, absolutely. Absolutely.
01:14.84
Tony Sisk
Right. So they kicked off the show with Wolverine. And Vance, you're a huge Wolverine fan.
01:23.58
Sentfrmheaven
Yes.
01:24.18
Tony Sisk
So as a huge Wolverine fan, Did you like what you saw?
01:31.37
Sentfrmheaven
I loved it. I love what I saw. And um yeah, they didn't hold anything back. So I'm um um um definitely excited.
01:40.28
Tony Sisk
Yeah, I think one of the big question marks when they first started talking about Wolverine a couple years ago, when we started getting leaks and and hints at that they were working on this title, that Insomniac was working on it, um was what type of like, how far were they going to go with like Wolverine's like violence level?
02:06.39
Tony Sisk
And what what did you see? What did you think?
02:12.60
Sentfrmheaven
um I think that ah the the the violence level definitely matches who Wolverine is. I mean, you know, we're talking about, you know, claws. We're talking about stabbing and ripping. Like, it's not going to be like Hollywood brushing teeth. Like, you don't see any spit. You don't see no dribble. No, it's going to messy. That's what they gave us. You know, he's covered in it. It's close, close combat. Like, that's what you expect, you know, from Wolverine.
02:37.72
Tony Sisk
Yeah. What do you think, Jaime?
02:40.38
Jaime G
Well, I think think I like what I saw. ah The biggest question that I personally had on this is because it's coming from Insomniac. I was always wondering, like, is it going to be open world like the Spider-Man game was, right?
02:56.65
Jaime G
Basically, you had all of New York in the first game, and then they added, like, what was it Queens? or they They added, like, more more areas in Spider-Man 2, and was like, you know, this open wide world.
03:09.88
Jaime G
And from what I saw, first off, the violence seems like it's, to Vance's point, it's exactly on par where Wolverine needs to be. I don't know how the healing factor is going to work, but as far as the open worldness of it, it kind of reminds me of like the first couple of God of War games where you're in an area, right? Let's let's say that Logan is in Russia or he's in Madripoor or he's somewhere.
03:40.92
Jaime G
And you basically have to make it from point A to point B and kill everything that's in between. i don't know how else to describe it. I mean, I was hoping that we would get an open world game, but he's not as traversal as Spidey would be. So I was always thinking like, oh man, I hope they do this, but I realized that they didn't.
04:02.94
Tony Sisk
Yeah, I don't think, I haven't personally heard of any mentions of being an open world game. To me, it looks more like, don't know, like a God of War game, right? Like it's narrative driven and then you have zones that you're you're traversing through as the story presents itself.
04:26.94
Tony Sisk
But yeah, I don't, ah I haven't really thought of the, a the open world nature or lack thereof of the game.
04:38.14
Tony Sisk
what What do you think, Vance? Does that make a difference to you? are you more more, just give me a good story, and if it's like God of War in the way the storytelling is, that's perfect, or I would like to be more like Spider-Man and have more of a free a free hand to go and do whatever I want as I drive the the story forward on my own timeline.
05:05.30
Sentfrmheaven
um originally uh like hi like jaime i wanted it to be open world um because i do like those type of games like the spider-man is great but when i watched it and uh they say it's not going to be like as open world it's going to be some leeway but it's more like you said narrative narrative driven and you know like a type more structured but I'm like, it's Wolverine. Do I want to run 20 miles? You know, like, you know, of that hey though like, so I, so, you know, I get the, you know, it it lets you travel, travel faster. But I mean, I get why it's not super open world, you know, like can understand it and I can appreciate it. I'm still excited for it.
05:50.62
Sentfrmheaven
And I think what is three locations he's going to be in Canada, Japan, and one more place I think is the story is going take, take place here.
06:02.01
Tony Sisk
What is the name of the place that's in like Indonesia and stuff that's always in the Madripoor or
06:07.10
Sentfrmheaven
Is it Magipor?
06:08.91
Jaime G
Madripoor.
06:09.88
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the third one.
06:10.21
Jaime G
Madripoor.
06:11.40
Sentfrmheaven
That's the third one, yeah.
06:11.70
Tony Sisk
Yeah, yeah.
06:13.18
Jaime G
I mean, they could have just as easily dropped them off in the Savage Land too, you know?
06:13.45
Sentfrmheaven
Okay.
06:18.17
Jaime G
Wolverine versus dinosaurs. But i guess I guess where I was coming with this is I don't think that the lack of the open worldness is a bad thing. Absolutely not.
06:29.46
Jaime G
I was just kind of like going back in considering what Insomniac has put out in the last couple of years. They did obviously Sunset Overdrive, totally open world game.
06:42.68
Jaime G
ah Tony, you played Ratchet and Clank, A Rift Apart. um And then they've done like the the the three Spider-Man games, right?
06:48.68
Tony Sisk
Yeah.
06:51.74
Jaime G
Spider-Man 1, Miles Morales, and Spider-Man 2. so So, I mean, I actually think that this this type of presentation that we saw is much better suited for for a Wolverine game.
07:06.17
Jaime G
um But I was just like, I was like, was wondering like, man, imagine if Wolverine is just like jumping off a building. What's what's he going to do? Yeah.
07:16.02
Tony Sisk
Right. So what... what it's a superhero game, right? So it's like, uh, you would like either DLC or something where you could go and continue to play as Wolverine and be the super, i be a superhero or X-Men whatever.
07:38.14
Tony Sisk
So I wonder what that's going to look like for them. Like what's going to keep you continually coming back? Um, you know, if you don't have the open world nature
07:51.48
Jaime G
new areas, new areas.
07:51.51
Tony Sisk
of it
07:55.10
Jaime G
When the original God of War released on the first PlayStation, after you finished the game, this is before DLC was a thing, they released, you could unlock some ah some developer levels that never actually made it into the final game.
08:12.89
Jaime G
But it was like a whole brand new area. So I think the thing that gets you coming back is You release a brand new area and and say, hey, featuring Deadpool, right? Everyone is going to love that. are they like If Sabretooth is not in the main storyline, which yeah obviously he probably is, it's like, hey, Wolverine versus Deadpool. Or do little little crossovers with other superheroes where he's trying to catch up with Nightcrawler. I don't know.
08:46.39
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, because the timeline is in the same timeline Spider-Man. so um they said they might leave a crossover opportunities there.
08:57.59
Sentfrmheaven
So that's the timeline that we're in. So it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool. I can get jiggy with that.
09:04.15
Tony Sisk
Okay. So back on to the rub reveal, we're getting Wolverines like tracking some mutants that have been kidnapped, whatever.
09:18.52
Tony Sisk
ah Who else we saw? We saw Jean Grey show up, right?
09:24.63
Tony Sisk
And what other heroes or villains did we see the reveal?
09:29.56
Sentfrmheaven
We saw Sabretooth. and ah And what's the ah the one that could change in everybody?
09:32.78
Jaime G
Sabertooth.
09:36.93
Sentfrmheaven
I can't think of her name. She's blue. i see it. Mystique.
09:39.18
Jaime G
Mystique?
09:40.27
Sentfrmheaven
We saw Mystique.
09:41.78
Jaime G
Mm-hmm.
09:44.28
Tony Sisk
Yeah.
09:44.44
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah. So how do y'all feel about, because I've seen some comments online about this. How do y'all feel about his healing factor being part of his suit as well?
09:57.50
Jaime G
See, explain that a little bit. I guess I haven't read much into this, so maybe i'm I need to be brought up to speed.
10:07.99
Sentfrmheaven
So when he's in battle, whatever like that, and his healing factor happens, it also heals his suit. So now the hardcore comics comics readers are like, this didn't happen the comics.
10:21.12
Sentfrmheaven
No, his suit was raggedy, whatever like that. But then people are like...
10:24.42
Jaime G
Oh, yeah, yeah, now I get it
10:26.26
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, so now people, but some people are like, in the other Wolverine gang, you know, like his suit also healed because it had like the nanotechnology in it, whatever like that. So I see like a little divide in the community with that. um You know, I don't know, personally me, I like the raggedy because I mean, like it shows you've been in battle, you know, like shows you out there putting work.
10:47.41
Sentfrmheaven
How do y'all feel about it?
10:50.49
Jaime G
I'd have to agree. I totally agree with this. I mean, if you if you're going for something to make the character more like grounded in what the main comics would have been like, if he gets into a battle, you know his shirt is coming off.
11:08.41
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah.
11:10.58
Jaime G
And I guess with today's technology, it would have not been that difficult to implement some type of mechanic where Once your outfit gets so torn up, you have to like, you know, swap out into a different outfit for at least 30 minutes or something so that you could argue that, hey, well, it takes time to fix it
11:32.12
Sentfrmheaven
Right.
11:34.07
Tony Sisk
Right. Well, you know, that could be that could be part of the minigame aspect of it. It's like look, you you complete the entire campaign and then you post up Wolverine, you know, like in pose and how damaged your shoot is in the picture reveals how good you were as Wolverine.
11:51.42
Jaime G
Oh, that'd be cool, man.
11:52.28
Sentfrmheaven
Right, yeah, that'd be nice.
11:53.46
Tony Sisk
ah
11:53.89
Jaime G
That'd be cool.
11:53.92
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, that'd be nice.
11:55.83
Tony Sisk
Like, man, his is clean.
11:56.38
Jaime G
Yeah. But,
11:58.05
Tony Sisk
Yeah.
11:59.58
Sentfrmheaven
Right, right, because, I mean, how many times have we seen in Spider-Man comic, I mean, not comics, ah cartoons, like he's sewing his suit here, patching it up here, like, you know, like it's, it's you know, it's part of the, you know, the suit of armor.
12:13.85
Tony Sisk
Yeah. So we'll, I guess we'll see. i mean, how the game plays out when it comes out on what was the reveal date? September 15th.
12:24.09
Jaime G
September 15th.
12:24.31
Sentfrmheaven
Yes, 15th, yep.
12:26.04
Tony Sisk
Right. Is that, is that sooner than you thought that was gonna come out or did you think it was to come out like, you know, that time or later?
12:34.33
Jaime G
I was hoping it came out later in the year so that you know it messed up the games draft.
12:39.90
Sentfrmheaven
a
12:41.05
Jaime G
yeah
12:41.27
Tony Sisk
Oh, believe me, i was i was stoked to see that that date pop up. I'm like, yeah, we've got a locked in date. They wouldn't have put, Tony wouldn't put that date up if they wasn't locked in.
12:48.31
Sentfrmheaven
Right, right.
12:52.82
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, right. Yeah. Oh, how do you see about the healing factor is um it's part of your rage meter. So it uses some of your rage me when you do healing factor.
13:08.22
Sentfrmheaven
So however you know much you rage in is, I guess, how fast you can heal.
13:08.73
Tony Sisk
That makes sense.
13:12.79
Sentfrmheaven
So like said, yeah, makes sense.
13:14.17
Tony Sisk
yeah that that that makes sense then that's a good inclusion because like i want a game to be more than just like quick time events and um you know just pushing one button and you do you know everything off of one button or something you know or limited uh choices in what you can do like spider-man we had all kinds of different combos that you had to learn how to do right for him to do his melee attacks and stuff like that.
13:47.99
Sentfrmheaven
Right.
13:48.21
Tony Sisk
So you had a lot of stuff to learn. So I'm assuming that they're going to, that's kind of the same methodology that they're since insomnia is doing the same thing is going, is going to be a ton of different combos.
13:56.50
Jaime G
Absolutely.
13:59.38
Jaime G
And they're going to. Yep.
14:03.44
Tony Sisk
Now, it's just, it's amazing how like they can get like the graphics to keep up with all the different possible things. Combos that you could come up with And it fit The point in the narration of the game That you needed to fit So like when he's fighting on top Of the roof of the truck Like there's all kinds of Different things you could do while you're up there right So it's like
14:28.82
Sentfrmheaven
You're right.
14:31.99
Tony Sisk
Yeah
14:32.66
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, I thought that was pretty cool, too. Yeah, in man and it's funny because when he was fighting on top of the truck, I knew at some point the strap was going to get cut, you know, for the little, I guess, like little cement round things or cylinders or whatever like that. But I do a i do like the fighting scenes and the ah the push times. But like you said, with the combinations, like especially like where he like throws one guy, then he jumps on him and then shoots to another guy, like like it's definitely going to get – you know handsy but i like that because know bring back the skill like you said bring back like you know it's no fun just hitting the one button and he's doing all these combos i don't like that either
15:13.56
Tony Sisk
Yeah. ah And speaking of kind of going back to the open world nature or lack of, uh, he did have a motorcycle. Like, I don't know if that's enough for mobility, uh, in an open world game, but yeah, that.
15:25.05
Sentfrmheaven
right
15:27.15
Jaime G
Nah, man, it's got to be part of like a sequence, man. It's not going to be like the Batman game where you could like call the Batmobile and and go like for to different parts of the city.
15:42.20
Tony Sisk
Right. Well, you know, but you could customize motorcycle.
15:43.13
Sentfrmheaven
We'll see. It could was it could be. It could be.
15:45.34
Tony Sisk
You know, people love their customizations.
15:46.01
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah. Hey, they love it. They love it. Now, oh, speaking of customizations. Now, I believe we only saw two costumes, right? We seen Wolverine and we seen Logan.
15:59.29
Jaime G
Yes.
15:59.29
Sentfrmheaven
I don't think we've seen any other variations of the costume. tool Now that's what now, because I think I had mentioned this to Tony, i'm like, I want to see just as many Spider-Man suits that they had in Spider-Man. I want to see Wolverine suits. Like, I want to see, I like that. I like my customization.
16:15.26
Jaime G
Okay. One of the outfits is going to be Wolverine with a yellow suit, but with the underwear outside, man.
16:23.83
Sentfrmheaven
ah Yeah. Yeah.
16:27.32
Jaime G
You know which one I'm talking about.
16:31.56
Tony Sisk
Yeah. All right. So that's how the Sony study play kicked off with Wolverine. You guys have anything else to talk about Wolverine wise.
16:40.79
Jaime G
Excited about it I hope it doesn't do well Metacritic.
16:44.70
Sentfrmheaven
Yes, I am excited about it. And I do want to know if the characters that they show are going to be like a Spider-Man, where you played as ah Mary Jane. And then what you played is the friend. So I want to know if you're going to get to play as Mystique, ah Phoenix and Sabretooth.
17:06.52
Sentfrmheaven
So I do want to know like if you will if they're going to incorporate that.
17:11.48
Tony Sisk
Maybe if they're going if they have an idea of like rolling out a game from one for one of those characters, it's definitely a possibility. I don't know you what would be the next character that would get its own game. but
17:28.82
Jaime G
Deadpool.
17:32.92
Tony Sisk
Yeah, I mean, that seems like a natural fit, right?
17:32.98
Jaime G
If you want a character that's... that's I mean, he's morally ambiguous. He doesn't care about, you know, going to town with his katanas. So I think he's a good fit and he and and the people love him.
17:47.74
Sentfrmheaven
Right, right. See, the gore of the gu de gore of Wolverine could be testing testing the waters to the see how gore they can get their pool.
17:56.98
Tony Sisk
Now, we talked about, Vance and I had talked but had talked about that that they may have the ability to turn off like the level of gore, the level of blood in the game.
17:57.79
Jaime G
I... I agree.
18:13.25
Tony Sisk
Vance, did you find out more on that?
18:15.99
Sentfrmheaven
ah Yes, they do have that option in there. That is going to be in there.
18:21.27
Tony Sisk
Yeah.
18:22.07
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, it is.
18:22.09
Tony Sisk
Because that broad broadens the audience, right? Yeah, there go.
18:24.34
Sentfrmheaven
Right, it didn't it didnt people were like, yeah, but if you turn it off, are you even Wolverine? ah
18:31.77
Tony Sisk
yeah
18:35.19
Sentfrmheaven
people People are not satisfied. They want to see the gore.
18:37.82
Jaime G
get How many times have we said here that gamers are like fickle? You can't give them anything that they really like for a long time.
18:43.29
Tony Sisk
Hey, so you know how they have the, the end of the year, they have the ah Jeff Keighley's Game Awards, right? We cover it every year.
18:54.14
Sentfrmheaven
Right.
18:55.09
Tony Sisk
You know, one of the awards that they hand out is the game that has the best accessibility, right? So if you have the ability to turn off the blood and gore level in Wolverine, that should be like an auto win in the best of accessibility category.
19:13.37
Sentfrmheaven
Right. Absolutely.
19:18.10
Jaime G
All right. So Tony, you asked the question first for us, but which is the the game that got you hyped?
19:27.19
Tony Sisk
okay i mean wolverine got me hyped i mean that was like oh wolverine let me watch this right uh but then i see this other game come up that bookend there was a bookend on a state of play and i'm like what is this and We've got a new God of wars got a War game, right?
19:55.74
Tony Sisk
Or a spinoff, or what do you want to call it? God of War Lofi, right? Oh, Jaime's giving a big thumbs down.
20:07.09
Tony Sisk
All right. Vange, what'd you think?
20:10.55
Sentfrmheaven
Man, look, I think it looks good. Like I said, when when they was like, hey, we're going to give you 20 minutes of uninterrupted. i was like, I let me see. Let me see what's going on. First five minutes, I was hooked.
20:22.33
Sentfrmheaven
You know, I was I was hooked or whatever like that, you know, because it started you off super fast. You know, like, you know, she dies, she wakes up and she's already in battle. I'm like, I love it.
20:34.42
Sentfrmheaven
You know, I love it. You know, like, I mean, that 20 minutes was great. I love it.
20:41.33
Tony Sisk
I bet I know where Jaime is coming from with the with the thumbs down. He said, you can't have a God of War game and not
20:51.29
Jaime G
Exactly. why that you you and You know me too well at this point. It's like you can't have a Star Wars game without a Jedi, man.
21:02.78
Tony Sisk
Right. Well, we don't.
21:03.40
Sentfrmheaven
you...
21:03.66
Tony Sisk
Hey, you don't know if Kratos is in or not in this game.
21:08.25
Sentfrmheaven
Hey, you see he picked her up.
21:10.35
Jaime G
you'll show You know he's going to show up to keep the fan base happy, and he's going to put the moves on Lafayette.
21:14.60
Tony Sisk
Right. You know he's going to be in the game.
21:16.39
Jaime G
Yeah. Of course.
21:19.09
Sentfrmheaven
Okay, so...
21:19.19
Jaime G
But you should not name it God of War, though, if Kratos is not the main character.
21:20.73
Sentfrmheaven
so
21:26.68
Tony Sisk
But they got to name it God of War because they got people that are going to say this can't be God of War without Kratos. But if they put God of War in it, that means Kratos is going to be in it.
21:40.50
Tony Sisk
So...
21:42.10
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah.
21:42.87
Tony Sisk
Kratos is going to be in this game at some point at the end, probably. Right.
21:48.02
Sentfrmheaven
See, yeah. Because I think, so, um if you watched it, ah you remember when when she's first prisoner with him like that, and you see like that twinkle?
22:01.30
Sentfrmheaven
I think that's Kratos. like Like when the the the, I guess like the head... evil lady, whatever, she's like, I'm going to go take care of that. You take this. I think that's Kratos coming in.
22:13.74
Sentfrmheaven
That's what I think. but Like you said, it's going to be you know deeper down in the story, but I'm like, hey.
22:15.19
Jaime G
I think so too, man. Yeah.
22:22.55
Sentfrmheaven
And then what also pulled me into is everybody kept keeps talking about the sword that she has with the ribbons. I want to know what's going on with the sword with the ribbons.
22:31.42
Jaime G
Wait, wait, wait. I was actually thinking about that. Was the sword talking to the jello goop that the sword was in? Or what was the sword?
22:38.78
Tony Sisk
Yes. Yes. There was two entities.
22:40.92
Jaime G
What is, what? what
22:44.89
Tony Sisk
Okay. So what I heard today was that this place that, uh, what's her name? Faye.
22:55.90
Sentfrmheaven
Yep, Faye.
22:56.45
Jaime G
Nothing.
22:57.27
Tony Sisk
Yeah.
22:57.66
Jaime G
faye
23:00.86
Tony Sisk
Um, this place that she's in right now is like the purgatory for gods. Yeah. that when they die, um they go to this purgatory. That's why there's a mixture of different mythologies going on that we see in the teaser.
23:19.19
Tony Sisk
um So it looked like we had Egyptian, Japanese. Obviously, we've got Norse. ah Did we have Norse?
23:31.88
Tony Sisk
Is she Norse? I don't remember. Or is she of Greek?
23:34.22
Sentfrmheaven
I'm not sure.
23:35.28
Tony Sisk
Greek.
23:39.29
Jaime G
I think it's Norse.
23:41.14
Tony Sisk
Okay, so we have all these different mythologies in this place. And so you've got like a bunch of different gods that she's probably going to be battling in this place. So I don't know what the cube represents or what the sword represents. or I'm sure they're referenced somewhere in mythology.
24:03.22
Tony Sisk
that's That's what it kind of makes it one of the interesting things. It's like, okay, hit me with some more mythology that you got behind me.
24:10.58
Jaime G
Okay, I'm going to admit I didn't know this beforehand, but when I saw the trailer and I'm here like, you know, thinking like for 20 minutes, this cannot be a God War game without Kratos.
24:27.00
Jaime G
um There was one thing I kept on noticing. Faye, that the the main character, I kept on watching the trailer and i was like, she reminds me of somebody.
24:38.23
Jaime G
Did you guys get that feeling too?
24:40.60
Tony Sisk
Yeah.
24:42.62
Jaime G
did did Did you ah eventually figure out who she
24:44.34
Tony Sisk
i can't I couldn't place the face, but ah she did remind me of somebody. I know she's an actress from...
24:52.22
Jaime G
So I had to look this up because I was like, there's, i mean, the the resemblance is uncanny. If you ever saw ah True Blood, or if you're not into like those those vampire things saga movies.
25:10.81
Jaime G
ah If you've seen any season of Daredevil, the actress is Deborah Ann Wool. She plays Karen, Karen Page.
25:22.87
Jaime G
and And I had to look it up because I was like she she looks exactly, well, that was the actress who played who played the character. I thought, oh, that's kind of cool.
25:35.40
Tony Sisk
Okay, yeah. I know I've seen her her work somewhere, but I can't remember where.
25:42.95
Jaime G
That's exactly where you saw her.
25:44.76
Tony Sisk
Yeah, but I mean, her character is ah fast.
25:45.80
Sentfrmheaven
See?
25:52.79
Tony Sisk
You know, her her fighting style is very fast. You know, she's flying all over the place. Somebody, I saw... ah Mighty Keef, he has his you know the YouTube channel.
26:05.72
Tony Sisk
he He was making ah like a parody of it. and And he was like, oh, she's so bad. She knocked the soul out of that guy. And then she beat up the soul. Yeah.
26:18.87
Tony Sisk
ah yeah
26:20.18
Jaime G
ah
26:23.29
Tony Sisk
yeah
26:23.35
Sentfrmheaven
See, i think i got ah I got hooked on fighting in the air with with Spider-Man, but I like the fact that, you know, like said, like she's fighting in the air. I'm like, I noticed that as soon as like she was fighting, said, yeah, I like that. I like that.
26:34.41
Tony Sisk
yeah but um
26:35.38
Jaime G
OK, but but what just one random question here. I think all of us have expressed being fans of God of War. As fans, you need Do you need this game, or would you have preferred a main mainline entry?
26:54.26
Sentfrmheaven
um
26:57.82
Sentfrmheaven
probably main probably main probably main
27:01.05
Jaime G
For me, definitely.
27:04.27
Tony Sisk
Go ahead.
27:06.64
Jaime G
Honestly...
27:08.63
Tony Sisk
go ahead
27:10.31
Jaime G
Honestly, i would have even...
27:13.66
Jaime G
forgiven more if they came out with a God of War Atreus versus this. Because this is a prequel of some, I mean, you're going to find that later it's a prequel.
27:24.95
Jaime G
um If you would have said like, oh yeah, we're going to do a game with Apheros in it and it's going to be about his adventure after, you know, minus Kratos.
27:38.26
Jaime G
I would have been more accepting of that versus this. And that's just my thoughts.
27:44.50
Tony Sisk
Okay, so my thought is... I mean, obviously, you would always want a new God of War with Kratos, right? And there's no... I'm sure that they probably are working on the next Kratos game, right?
28:01.01
Tony Sisk
Already for the next...
28:01.11
Jaime G
You know they have to be.
28:02.81
Tony Sisk
and then For the new, it's going to be the kickoff to the next generation console, right? It's going to be surprise reveal, God of War. Here's the intro to the next generation console, right? So, but to me, and was it you, Jaime? was talking to you about this. It was advanced a couple episodes ago, but, um,
28:29.37
Jaime G
Probably me. Vance has been MIA.
28:31.77
Tony Sisk
right. ah the issue is in this generation, console generation, there have not been enough AAA title games.
28:45.42
Tony Sisk
they're not there have
28:45.80
Jaime G
Oh, yeah.
28:46.49
Tony Sisk
There have not been enough.
28:46.66
Jaime G
Yeah.
28:48.31
Tony Sisk
right so ah Way too many remakes, right and stuff that's new has been indie type games. and stuff like Not to say that they're bad, but the big budget AAA games that we were used to, that we got a ton of with the PS4 generation, we have not gotten a lot of those games.
29:13.56
Tony Sisk
And we're almost at the end of the cycle, which is crazy. um So to me, looking at the visuals in this game, and i think I mentioned to, Vance, I might have mentioned this to you, um like you're watching her like,
29:30.97
Tony Sisk
do the traversal through the, you know, opening sequences of this trailer and her hair, literally each individual thread of hair is moving separately.
29:44.36
Tony Sisk
Right. That is crazy. And high end graphic power, whatever you want to call it. Like that's super advanced graphics. Yeah.
29:55.86
Tony Sisk
when you're talking about hair. um And the visuals look great. I mean, the game looked fantastic. So I'm not going to begrudge any title that's pushing that sort of tech in a world that you know, God of War, that and and has, looks like fantastic combat sequences,
30:19.77
Tony Sisk
New mythology. ah Just like over the top character design. Like you have to admit that that Japanese demon looking dude looked pretty cool.
30:30.78
Tony Sisk
um
30:30.97
Jaime G
Oh, I know which one you're talking about. Yeah.
30:32.66
Tony Sisk
Yeah. And that little battle sequence they had where they're like, you know,
30:34.65
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, absolutely.
30:39.13
Tony Sisk
There was some serious, I mean, that's some serious stuff being destroyed and that whole sequence going on.
30:44.24
Sentfrmheaven
Right.
30:45.72
Tony Sisk
Like that's pushing up. and If you notice, it says PS5 Pro right at the bottom. Like this is made it with the PS5 Pro.
30:56.15
Sentfrmheaven
but Yeah, I did see that.
30:58.83
Tony Sisk
Man, it does have me questioning. to Will my regular PS5 be able to play this and have it look that good? Like, you know, I'm like, am I going to be able to know this is serious downgrade?
31:11.90
Tony Sisk
And I don't want to buy a PS5 Pro right when the generation is ending. right So it's like, no it's one of those games where they're going to make me buy the new console to get the most out of it.
31:17.18
Sentfrmheaven
Right.
31:25.86
Tony Sisk
so
31:25.91
Sentfrmheaven
Right.
31:26.62
Tony Sisk
But i I'm excited because we get something new, even though it's set in an established world or whatever. um Because we need more new stuff.
31:42.23
Tony Sisk
You know, they were just been rehashing remakes this entire generation. And you're getting one game a year, basically. That's kind of semi-new. Like, even last year, it was Ghost of Yotai, right?
31:58.26
Tony Sisk
Was the big title last year?
32:00.15
Jaime G
And, but that was like, didn't that release like way at the end of the year though?
32:04.76
Tony Sisk
Yeah, way at the end of the year. And that is like...
32:06.69
Jaime G
Yeah.
32:09.11
Tony Sisk
You know, it's set in the Ghost of Shishima universe, you know? so it's like, it's just kind of like a new character, and which, you know, that's that that series, you know, they want to do different characters every time, but we need we need more stuff because they have been very slow on putting out good new stuff.
32:34.23
Tony Sisk
My opinion on that.
32:35.77
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, know yeah, it definitely looked good. I mean, like everything, like, you know, like you can see clear and stuff like that. And um like speaking of like, you know, just new technologies, like I wonder why PlayStation wasting their time on this monitor.
32:53.34
Sentfrmheaven
who Like, like put that into something else. Put the put that money energy into something else, you know, like, but Yeah, I mean, I think, Jaime, I think this God of War is going to be one of those games like we didn't know we needed.
33:12.02
Sentfrmheaven
Like you said, definitely the main, but I think play it, you know, open mind. I think you're going to probably figure out like, yeah, this is a game we needed and and didn't know we needed it.
33:25.46
Jaime G
I mean, I'll give it a fair shot for sure, but I guess, I mean, would have rather Kratos game, man.
33:34.67
Tony Sisk
Oh, it's coming.
33:37.46
Tony Sisk
It's coming. This is just the filler. but yeah a It's a little appetizer before because you know they're going to bring both these characters back together
33:43.68
Jaime G
Right, right.
33:48.86
Tony Sisk
ah in this title or the next. Cliffhanger.
33:54.14
Sentfrmheaven
Right, because this, yeah.
33:54.76
Jaime G
Cliffhanger.
33:55.13
Tony Sisk
Prediction, prediction, cliffhanger coming inbound.
33:56.28
Jaime G
yeah
33:58.63
Sentfrmheaven
Hey, you know what? but you know ah Prediction, ah what's the son's name again?
34:05.38
Jaime G
Atreus.
34:06.73
Sentfrmheaven
Atreus, right? Prediction. This is going to be the segue into that.
34:13.44
Tony Sisk
Ooh, I know, I know. Kratos comes to say, it comes to Kratos. her and then they both get taken prisoner and then Atreus has his own game to come rescue them.
34:27.30
Sentfrmheaven
You picking up what I'm putting down. Exactly. This it.
34:30.90
Jaime G
um bum up
34:31.71
Sentfrmheaven
This is that. am 1000% with This is that. i have thousands sit with you this is that
34:37.94
Tony Sisk
Yeah, this is this is this is tri this is epic trilogy territory. ah Family trilogy territory. Right? ah
34:50.39
Jaime G
I mean, there's nothing to say. It can't be that, right?
34:52.34
Tony Sisk
Yeah. Yeah. And then we'll discover sister, the lost sister somewhere.
35:01.78
Sentfrmheaven
ah right And that's going to release on PS6.
35:07.35
Tony Sisk
ah Right. Yeah, this could be. Yeah. There's all kinds of this. We got to think in the long game here. This, this is working towards something way down the road.
35:21.77
Tony Sisk
They've already got this mapped out for like eight years, you know, 10 years.
35:26.78
Sentfrmheaven
Absolutely. I believe it.
35:28.09
Jaime G
yeah Yeah, for PlayStation 7.
35:28.32
Sentfrmheaven
I believe it.
35:30.34
Jaime G
Oh,
35:33.40
Tony Sisk
Speaking of, so wait, before we move on, was there anything else that stood out to you to stay to play?
35:39.83
Sentfrmheaven
Oh, yeah, absolutely. Until Dawn 2.
35:41.11
Jaime G
ah yeah, tons.
35:43.57
Tony Sisk
Until Dawn 2?
35:43.83
Sentfrmheaven
Until Dawn 2, yes. And you know what?
35:45.27
Jaime G
I was going to say, Tony, you're going to love this one.
35:47.94
Sentfrmheaven
I'm not even i'm i'm not even a hard person, but I'm just like, you know what? That was a good trailer. That was a good trailer. Because at the end of the trailer, it says something. It said, can everyone live but everyone can die?
36:04.03
Sentfrmheaven
I was like, ooh.
36:04.66
Tony Sisk
All right. So, yes, because if our you know our Halloween episode usually includes a game where we we play one of these type of choose-your-own
36:05.69
Sentfrmheaven
oh
36:20.09
Jaime G
Oh, yeah.
36:20.73
Tony Sisk
ah ending type of game where how effectively you navigate this the game results in how many people survive.
36:23.44
Jaime G
Yeah, choose your path.
36:28.81
Tony Sisk
So you know that if it comes out before Halloween, this This might be the one that we do. um So those are always fun to see who is the best ah ah player at keeping their crew alive.
36:45.98
Tony Sisk
So.
36:46.26
Sentfrmheaven
Right.
36:47.99
Tony Sisk
ah
36:48.76
Sentfrmheaven
Right.
36:49.69
Tony Sisk
So definitely and until Dawn 2, that looked good. We talked about, I think before we started recording, we talked about the new, the spinoff to Dave, the diver ah with this, with the sushi chef guy, the adventure game with a sushi chef guy.
37:06.69
Jaime G
Bansho the Chef or something?
37:08.31
Tony Sisk
Yeah. We talked about token, right?
37:12.36
Jaime G
Yep.
37:13.21
Tony Sisk
ah
37:13.48
Jaime G
Yep.
37:14.30
Tony Sisk
Some new refiner reveals for token, uh,
37:17.98
Jaime G
but Actually, three new characters. I mean, everyone knew that Magneto had already been leaked. But this is the first time ever that you get to see Green Goblin or Carnage as playable games in any fighting game.
37:33.11
Jaime G
I mean, there was a mod that was put together for one of the Marvel versus games, but this is like the community creating a character. This is legit. The first time that Carnage is in there from day one.
37:46.90
Jaime G
And I got to say, I am excited, but that's just me.
37:51.70
Tony Sisk
It looked good. It looked really good.
37:53.05
Jaime G
Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
37:55.38
Tony Sisk
Uh, and it's got that tag team mechanic thing going on too, right? Kind like, uh,
37:59.83
Jaime G
Right. So So you pick four characters, um but you have one shared life bar. Previously, in all the Marvel or the Capcom Versus series,
38:13.17
Jaime G
You pick two or three characters depending on which entry this was, and each had its own life bar.
38:15.89
Tony Sisk
Thank you.
38:18.97
Jaime G
So until your all your characters were eliminated, you didn't win. Here is one life bar. You technically don't have to technically don't have to know everything there is about all four characters. You can be like crazy good with just one of them.
38:41.17
Jaime G
or maybe two, right, if you want to tag in into like your backup. But they made it where you can play all four or you can just play one or two.
38:51.04
Tony Sisk
cool yeah it looks good um the phantom blade we got more uh phantom blade uh stuff that looks really good that's kind of like a is that is that like a from software type of combat style ah thing it is yeah but that game has been they've been revealing this game for like three years now
38:52.32
Jaime G
Yeah.
39:08.82
Jaime G
It is. Yeah.
39:15.48
Jaime G
Dude, they've been showing bits and clips that stayed place for like the last three years. You're right.
39:21.53
Tony Sisk
Yeah, so I think it's time. It's time. Did we get a release? Did they give us a date?
39:26.90
Jaime G
It had already been leaked earlier in the year that it was supposed to be September the 9th.
39:33.46
Tony Sisk
Oh, are they going one week ahead of Wolverine?
39:36.72
Sentfrmheaven
That's to get pushed back.
39:36.82
Jaime G
Let me see.
39:38.30
Tony Sisk
ha
39:41.25
Jaime G
I'm just going to look this up to see if it OK. Now it says October the 29th. Oh,
39:49.17
Tony Sisk
Okay, okay.
39:49.93
Sentfrmheaven
Pushed back.
39:50.01
Tony Sisk
That makes more sense. dave
39:52.63
Jaime G
oh but no. it was on my It's on my draft. Does a October the 29th still count?
39:57.90
Sentfrmheaven
I was going to say somebody, somebody, yeah, yeah, I to say somebody had that.
39:59.70
Tony Sisk
that's true that's still That's still in your in the time slot, though.
40:02.74
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, that's the time frame, yeah.
40:03.80
Tony Sisk
As long as it's before December 1st.
40:06.54
Jaime G
Oof. OK.
40:07.45
Tony Sisk
December 1st is a cutoff.
40:09.62
Jaime G
Oh, okay.
40:10.16
Sentfrmheaven
It's not going to matter Wolverine is going to drop.
40:10.26
Jaime G
Okay. Okay.
40:11.79
Tony Sisk
Yeah.
40:12.90
Sentfrmheaven
We're going to forget about it. Don't worry about it. I thought
40:15.83
Jaime G
Hey, so I mean, I'm going off topic here. Can you believe we're like mid-year and they still haven't said when GTA six is going to release?
40:26.85
Tony Sisk
aha I am not surprised.
40:30.65
Sentfrmheaven
ah thought it was November 19th.
40:33.94
Sentfrmheaven
I thought they came out and the developers said definitely November 19th.
40:39.29
Jaime G
I don't think they've, they've vexed they haven't, yeah, they haven't really confirmed it, man.
40:39.27
Tony Sisk
That's what they said before we did the draft.
40:44.86
Tony Sisk
And so, um,
40:44.92
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, but you sure? me see. Because I thought they said something like in the last two, three weeks.
40:49.98
Jaime G
Nobody, it's it's the best kept secret right now.
40:53.27
Tony Sisk
right. So, um, shadow nights yeah shadow nights over sgl uh put a post instagram up today about um a gta only having one other game um releasing on its release date which was barbie something like something barbie game
40:55.80
Jaime G
Sorry, I know this is off topic.
41:21.72
Tony Sisk
um And I responded, like, yeah, until GTA pushes back. And then Barbie would have it all to themselves.
41:33.78
Tony Sisk
So, I mean, it's GTA. they they are in They've been pushing back deadlines for years now. ah two Until I see this thing hit the shelf, I'm not going to believe it.
41:44.38
Jaime G
Yeah.
41:50.65
Jaime G
Well, I mean, think about it this way. GTA 5 released in the PlayStation 4?
42:00.31
Jaime G
forty no
42:01.60
Tony Sisk
yeah yeah it was for in ps4 like the second year of the ps4 or something like that it feels like
42:13.62
Jaime G
I'm curious now.
42:15.44
Tony Sisk
yeah i mean they put out red dead redemption 2 wow
42:19.48
Jaime G
No, PlayStation 3. PlayStation 3, my friend, because I have it.
42:24.92
Tony Sisk
wow
42:26.62
Jaime G
This game originally released in 2013. That's 13 years in between entries. They don't care if they're one more year.
42:36.79
Jaime G
they don't care if they're one one one more year That's
42:41.73
Tony Sisk
Yeah. Well, if you if you miss the if you missed a Black Friday window, how important is that to you?
42:53.50
Tony Sisk
What do you think as a developer?
42:54.87
Jaime G
With GTA 6, I don't think they care.
42:57.56
Tony Sisk
don't care, right? It's not going to matter for them. They get dropped in January and February.
43:00.16
Jaime G
No.
43:01.92
Tony Sisk
I agree with you. That's why it doesn't matter. like There's nothing holding them to the Christmas holiday. As a matter of fact, they're better off waiting until after the Christmas holiday because people will have money after Christmas.
43:17.03
Jaime G
I agree.
43:18.30
Tony Sisk
Right? You
43:20.63
Sentfrmheaven
Well, look, on May 21st, I just look it up.
43:22.61
Tony Sisk
better...
43:23.42
Sentfrmheaven
Take two balls double down on November 19th release date. That was on May 21st.
43:33.37
Sentfrmheaven
We gonna see. hey Hey, he double down on it. November november nineteen
43:38.78
Tony Sisk
I mean, I mean, he's draft is like dependent on it. but
43:42.78
Jaime G
actually it actually it is man my my numbers sound looking that great only only have one i only have one game that's released this year i'm kind of starting to sweat it a little bit yeah it really is
43:49.84
Sentfrmheaven
Well, that case we hoping for January.
43:50.00
Tony Sisk
He,
43:58.97
Sentfrmheaven
Hey, you hold. Hey,
44:02.43
Tony Sisk
Pressure's building. Pressure's building. All
44:05.78
Sentfrmheaven
top of the top of the pressure cooker is starting to wiggle. It hasn't screamed yet. It's starting to wiggle.
44:10.39
Jaime G
ah ah
44:14.88
Tony Sisk
right. Uh, anything else? Oh, I did want to point out one thing. I did know this about the, uh, the state of play, uh, and all the reveals and stuff. Um,
44:26.84
Tony Sisk
That everything seemed to be almost like almost exclusively single player.
44:35.17
Tony Sisk
I didn't see those shooters.
44:36.58
Jaime G
Wait, Marathon?
44:39.16
Tony Sisk
One little thing of marathon. One little. That was it.
44:43.70
Jaime G
But Tokon is multiplayer.
44:45.64
Tony Sisk
Well, yeah. but I don't know. You could play a solo, right? Yeah.
44:50.99
Jaime G
Rayman?
44:51.61
Sentfrmheaven
ah thought they I thought they dropped the Silent Hill game last year.
44:52.63
Tony Sisk
ah
44:55.28
Sentfrmheaven
Or was that just announcement last year?
44:57.43
Tony Sisk
oh i yeah
44:57.69
Jaime G
No, Silent Hill has been putting out bangers one after the next, man.
45:04.54
Tony Sisk
Silent Hill has this signature fog thing that goes on.
45:04.76
Sentfrmheaven
Yes.
45:08.76
Tony Sisk
And when I saw the fog, I'm like, Silent Hill.
45:12.86
Jaime G
Yeah, for real. For real.
45:15.42
Tony Sisk
And then it was like, oh, Silent Hill, altered town or something. I can't remember what the name of it was.
45:20.31
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah, Town Fall or something like that, yeah
45:22.60
Tony Sisk
Townfall, yeah.
45:22.90
Jaime G
Townfall, Silentfall or something fall.
45:26.18
Sentfrmheaven
yeah. Something like that. was like, yeah, another hard game.
45:28.77
Jaime G
Townfall.
45:28.86
Sentfrmheaven
it
45:29.33
Jaime G
Yeah, that's what it is.
45:31.40
Tony Sisk
Though, I did want to, I mean, Vance, with that Silent Hill reveal, it had me thinking because, you know, we saw the protagonist in that.
45:45.37
Tony Sisk
And I'm like, it's the rare it's a rare black protagonist, right? Like, we you don't get those.
45:58.07
Sentfrmheaven
Nope, not too much. We usually get killed off.
46:01.46
Tony Sisk
Right? but
46:06.87
Jaime G
Wow. how
46:12.04
Sentfrmheaven
Oh, man.
46:14.12
Jaime G
I have to disagree, ah my my my friends. You had Miles Morales, right? You had that guy in the Telltale Games, the
46:25.43
Tony Sisk
That guy.
46:26.87
Jaime G
yeah
46:27.67
Tony Sisk
if
46:28.58
Sentfrmheaven
That guy.
46:29.46
Tony Sisk
that guy
46:30.10
Jaime G
ah and The Walking Dead. I don't even remember his name, man.
46:33.25
Tony Sisk
The Walking Dead 15 years What? so wow
46:40.90
Sentfrmheaven
Your disagreements aren't looking good.
46:43.15
Jaime G
Hey, hey, Jax from Mortal Kombat 2?
46:44.09
Tony Sisk
ha hey
46:47.07
Jaime G
What? ah
46:51.93
Tony Sisk
wow what's
46:53.20
Jaime G
Hey, hey, you can't tell me that you cannot remember the Coltrane from Gears of War.
47:00.50
Tony Sisk
Is he the protagonist, though?
47:00.73
Sentfrmheaven
Yeah.
47:02.92
Tony Sisk
He's not the protagonist.
47:04.90
Jaime G
OK, OK, OK.
47:05.72
Tony Sisk
ah
47:06.58
Jaime G
Mike Tyson's Punch-Out.
47:09.72
Sentfrmheaven
in
47:09.91
Tony Sisk
Wow. Going back to the Super Nintendo.
47:10.90
Sentfrmheaven
it
47:12.91
Tony Sisk
here Hey, hey, he named like three guys.
47:13.46
Jaime G
I'm just saying man, there's always been.
47:14.46
Sentfrmheaven
yeah
47:16.69
Tony Sisk
You guys are good. Yeah.
47:18.26
Sentfrmheaven
yeah
47:19.54
Jaime G
Of course, we're pros man.
47:22.23
Tony Sisk
yeah
47:26.46
Tony Sisk
Alright, alright. Just want to bring that up. Get the
47:39.03
Tony Sisk
Well, um'm I'm good. Vance, you good?
47:43.63
Sentfrmheaven
I'm good.
47:43.80
Jaime G
Man, you just opened up a can of worms at the end there, Tony.
47:44.72
Sentfrmheaven
Oh,
47:49.82
Tony Sisk
Think on it. I want to list next podcast. Alright.
47:53.27
Jaime G
Oh, this this is probably going to be the the one podcast before we get banned,
47:53.91
Tony Sisk
but
47:57.98
Sentfrmheaven
yeah.
47:58.07
Tony Sisk
and
48:01.46
Jaime G
Nice knowing you guys.
48:03.06
Sentfrmheaven
oh yeah
48:03.12
Tony Sisk
all right um right. Thanks folks for listening to a episode of the Sony state of play. Uh, our reactions to it, uh, appreciate it. Our listeners out there, continuing to listen to the podcast. Our numbers is looking great. You know, keep, tell your friends, you know, let's get those numbers even higher and set new records. yeah Every year we want to, we set a goal and to, to gain more listeners and we are doing that every year. So it's great. Um,
48:36.09
Tony Sisk
to have you guys on board and to listen to our nonsense and, and keep coming back.
48:36.19
Jaime G
Yeah.
48:43.70
Tony Sisk
and But if you want to support the show, we have a a link on the pot, every podcast episode that, you know, You can click on and and give us support if you're so inclined. If not ah that way, just hit your like button on and and share and tell your friends. And we'll catch you guys in the next episode.
49:08.86
Sentfrmheaven
Later.
49:09.61
Jaime G
Talk to you guys soon.