{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"startTime":8.32,"endTime":11.336,"body":"Probably more important than"},{"startTime":8.32,"endTime":11.336,"body":"anything, it shows people living"},{"startTime":11.368,"endTime":15.72,"body":"with dementia what they can"},{"startTime":11.368,"endTime":15.72,"body":"do. A dementia diagnosis often comes"},{"startTime":15.76,"endTime":18.472,"body":"with this gamut of you now,"},{"startTime":15.76,"endTime":18.472,"body":"can't do this, you can't do that,"},{"startTime":18.496,"endTime":21.592,"body":"you can't do this. This is"},{"startTime":18.496,"endTime":21.592,"body":"something you can do. Not only can"},{"startTime":21.616,"endTime":24.792,"body":"you do, but it can become a"},{"startTime":21.616,"endTime":24.792,"body":"really beautiful, important part"},{"startTime":24.816,"endTime":25.62,"body":"of your life."},{"startTime":26.42,"endTime":29.516,"body":"The conversations you have"},{"startTime":26.42,"endTime":29.516,"body":"around the pictures is just as important"},{"startTime":29.588,"endTime":32.2,"body":"as the outcome for a dementia class."},{"startTime":33.06,"endTime":36.38,"body":"For 10 minutes, memories"},{"startTime":33.06,"endTime":36.38,"body":"pouring out about her daughters."},{"startTime":36.46,"endTime":40.38,"body":"And as she left, we were all"},{"startTime":36.46,"endTime":40.38,"body":"crying, everyone in the room sobbing,"},{"startTime":40.46,"endTime":44.428,"body":"but in a happy way. It was so"},{"startTime":40.46,"endTime":44.428,"body":"happy. Like the joy was visceral."},{"startTime":44.524,"endTime":49.276,"body":"And then as she left, she took"},{"startTime":44.524,"endTime":49.276,"body":"each of our hands and she said, thank"},{"startTime":49.308,"endTime":52.972,"body":"you for giving me my girls"},{"startTime":49.308,"endTime":52.972,"body":"back today. Can you imagine if you"},{"startTime":52.996,"endTime":55.9,"body":"gave a pill to someone and"},{"startTime":52.996,"endTime":55.9,"body":"that happened? It brought them joy,"},{"startTime":55.98,"endTime":57.36,"body":"it brought back memor."},{"startTime":58.88,"endTime":63.688,"body":"Welcome to this special"},{"startTime":58.88,"endTime":63.688,"body":"edition of the Creativity Found podcast."},{"startTime":63.784,"endTime":70.072,"body":"As part of Podcasthon for one"},{"startTime":63.784,"endTime":70.072,"body":"week, more than a thousand podcasts"},{"startTime":70.136,"endTime":75.288,"body":"will highlight a charity of"},{"startTime":70.136,"endTime":75.288,"body":"their choice. Not surprisingly, I"},{"startTime":75.344,"endTime":80.024,"body":"have chosen to highlight a"},{"startTime":75.344,"endTime":80.024,"body":"charity that champions creativity"},{"startTime":80.072,"endTime":85.402,"body":"in adults. But the connections"},{"startTime":80.072,"endTime":85.402,"body":"to Creativity Found don't stop there."},{"startTime":85.506,"endTime":89.45,"body":"Joanne Robinson is one of the"},{"startTime":85.506,"endTime":89.45,"body":"founders of this charity and has"},{"startTime":89.49,"endTime":94.73,"body":"her own Creativity Found story"},{"startTime":89.49,"endTime":94.73,"body":"which you can Hear on episode 99"},{"startTime":94.77,"endTime":99.994,"body":"of this podcast. She is also a"},{"startTime":94.77,"endTime":99.994,"body":"member of the Creativity Found collective"},{"startTime":100.122,"endTime":103.946,"body":"with her business that"},{"startTime":100.122,"endTime":103.946,"body":"encourages grownups to start drawing"},{"startTime":103.978,"endTime":109.45,"body":"and painting the Little Art"},{"startTime":103.978,"endTime":109.45,"body":"School. She is joined today by fellow"},{"startTime":109.53,"endTime":113.082,"body":"founder in both the Little Art"},{"startTime":109.53,"endTime":113.082,"body":"School and the charity we're going"},{"startTime":113.106,"endTime":119.992,"body":"to talk about, Melissa Haddo."},{"startTime":113.106,"endTime":119.992,"body":"Hi, Joanne. Hi Melissa, Lovely to"},{"startTime":120.016,"endTime":126.008,"body":"have you here. Joanne, can you"},{"startTime":120.016,"endTime":126.008,"body":"start us off please by telling me"},{"startTime":126.144,"endTime":129.54,"body":"what the charity is and how it"},{"startTime":126.144,"endTime":129.54,"body":"helps people?"},{"startTime":129.84,"endTime":133.928,"body":"Well, the charity is called"},{"startTime":129.84,"endTime":133.928,"body":"the Dementia Arts Trust and it's"},{"startTime":133.944,"endTime":139.064,"body":"been going for 10 years. In"},{"startTime":133.944,"endTime":139.064,"body":"fact, I think next month is going"},{"startTime":139.072,"endTime":144.118,"body":"to be 10 years since our very"},{"startTime":139.072,"endTime":144.118,"body":"first lesson. And what we do is we"},{"startTime":144.174,"endTime":149.478,"body":"give art lessons to people"},{"startTime":144.174,"endTime":149.478,"body":"living with dementia and their carers."},{"startTime":149.654,"endTime":153.69,"body":"And there's no tablet, there's"},{"startTime":149.654,"endTime":153.69,"body":"no pill you can take for dementia."},{"startTime":154.11,"endTime":158.326,"body":"But there are non"},{"startTime":154.11,"endTime":158.326,"body":"pharmaceutical approaches like ours"},{"startTime":158.438,"endTime":161.77,"body":"which honestly, if you could"},{"startTime":158.438,"endTime":161.77,"body":"bottle it or put it into a pill,"},{"startTime":162.51,"endTime":166.502,"body":"it's magic, it's absolutely"},{"startTime":162.51,"endTime":166.502,"body":"magic. The effect it can have on"},{"startTime":166.526,"endTime":170.51,"body":"people. So we give art"},{"startTime":166.526,"endTime":170.51,"body":"lessons, it creates connections,"},{"startTime":170.59,"endTime":174.59,"body":"we build self esteem and I"},{"startTime":170.59,"endTime":174.59,"body":"think probably one of the things"},{"startTime":174.63,"endTime":177.79,"body":"that's really taken us aback"},{"startTime":174.63,"endTime":177.79,"body":"over the last decade is, is the joy,"},{"startTime":177.87,"endTime":178.446,"body":"isn't it?"},{"startTime":178.518,"endTime":179.214,"body":"Yeah, definitely."},{"startTime":179.262,"endTime":184.718,"body":"You get this joy in the room"},{"startTime":179.262,"endTime":184.718,"body":"and probably more important than"},{"startTime":184.774,"endTime":188.398,"body":"anything, it shows people"},{"startTime":184.774,"endTime":188.398,"body":"living with dementia what they can"},{"startTime":188.454,"endTime":192.67,"body":"do. A dementia diagnosis often"},{"startTime":188.454,"endTime":192.67,"body":"comes with this Gamut of you now"},{"startTime":192.71,"endTime":195.202,"body":"can't do this, you can't do"},{"startTime":192.71,"endTime":195.202,"body":"that, you can't do this. Was. This"},{"startTime":195.226,"endTime":198.29,"body":"is something you can do. Not"},{"startTime":195.226,"endTime":198.29,"body":"only can you do, but it can become"},{"startTime":198.33,"endTime":200.99,"body":"a really beautiful, important"},{"startTime":198.33,"endTime":200.99,"body":"part of your life."},{"startTime":201.29,"endTime":205.986,"body":"It takes away from being about"},{"startTime":201.29,"endTime":205.986,"body":"the dementia and about. It takes"},{"startTime":206.018,"endTime":207.39,"body":"it back to the person again."},{"startTime":207.77,"endTime":208.29,"body":"Yes."},{"startTime":208.37,"endTime":213.41,"body":"Yeah. Oh, that's so beautiful,"},{"startTime":208.37,"endTime":213.41,"body":"Melissa. How does this logistically"},{"startTime":213.57,"endTime":218.882,"body":"work? So how do you actually"},{"startTime":213.57,"endTime":218.882,"body":"get these artistic activities to"},{"startTime":218.906,"endTime":222.568,"body":"the people that you want to"},{"startTime":218.906,"endTime":222.568,"body":"help, the people with dementia?"},{"startTime":222.714,"endTime":226.828,"body":"So we work with community"},{"startTime":222.714,"endTime":226.828,"body":"groups and with care homes, and we"},{"startTime":226.884,"endTime":232.956,"body":"have a team of teachers who"},{"startTime":226.884,"endTime":232.956,"body":"have been trained on the dementia"},{"startTime":232.988,"endTime":235.996,"body":"side of things as well as the"},{"startTime":232.988,"endTime":235.996,"body":"art side. And they take everything"},{"startTime":236.068,"endTime":241.372,"body":"with them in a suitcase into"},{"startTime":236.068,"endTime":241.372,"body":"those locations they go with all"},{"startTime":241.396,"endTime":244.86,"body":"the paper, the pictures."},{"startTime":241.396,"endTime":244.86,"body":"There's always a team of two to go"},{"startTime":244.9,"endTime":249.532,"body":"in, and they provide all the"},{"startTime":244.9,"endTime":249.532,"body":"materials that are needed to run"},{"startTime":249.556,"endTime":250.28,"body":"the class."},{"startTime":250.67,"endTime":256.582,"body":"And have you ever had any kind"},{"startTime":250.67,"endTime":256.582,"body":"of barrier to that? Do you ever find"},{"startTime":256.606,"endTime":260.278,"body":"it difficult taking it to the"},{"startTime":256.606,"endTime":260.278,"body":"places where you think it's needed,"},{"startTime":260.374,"endTime":264.342,"body":"or do you find people are very"},{"startTime":260.374,"endTime":264.342,"body":"open to. Yes, please come in and"},{"startTime":264.366,"endTime":264.886,"body":"help?"},{"startTime":265.038,"endTime":269.35,"body":"Yeah, probably. Our only"},{"startTime":265.038,"endTime":269.35,"body":"limitation is, so we're a charity,"},{"startTime":269.43,"endTime":272.086,"body":"we offer these classes"},{"startTime":269.43,"endTime":272.086,"body":"completely for free in care homes"},{"startTime":272.118,"endTime":276.214,"body":"and in community groups is"},{"startTime":272.118,"endTime":276.214,"body":"funding. So we do a lot of fundraising"},{"startTime":276.262,"endTime":281.16,"body":"as a charity, and we've been"},{"startTime":276.262,"endTime":281.16,"body":"fortunate enough to get some grants."},{"startTime":281.66,"endTime":285.62,"body":"So our only barrier is how"},{"startTime":281.66,"endTime":285.62,"body":"many classes can we deliver? Because"},{"startTime":285.66,"endTime":288.9,"body":"we could deliver. You know, at"},{"startTime":285.66,"endTime":288.9,"body":"the moment, we're geographically"},{"startTime":288.98,"endTime":291.812,"body":"limited to Ayrshire, so we're"},{"startTime":288.98,"endTime":291.812,"body":"across Ayrshire, which is a county"},{"startTime":291.916,"endTime":295.364,"body":"in the west of Scotland, just"},{"startTime":291.916,"endTime":295.364,"body":"south of Glasgow, and we deliver"},{"startTime":295.452,"endTime":299.652,"body":"around here. But we'd love to"},{"startTime":295.452,"endTime":299.652,"body":"go to other places. And we do get"},{"startTime":299.676,"endTime":302.916,"body":"messages from people in, you"},{"startTime":299.676,"endTime":302.916,"body":"know, in Brighton and Wales, say,"},{"startTime":302.988,"endTime":305.492,"body":"please, could you come here?"},{"startTime":302.988,"endTime":305.492,"body":"It's like, well, we would love to"},{"startTime":305.516,"endTime":308.25,"body":"come here. We've just got to"},{"startTime":305.516,"endTime":308.25,"body":"work out how to do it. And like all"},{"startTime":308.29,"endTime":311.386,"body":"charities, you know, in the"},{"startTime":308.29,"endTime":311.386,"body":"end, this comes down to funding."},{"startTime":311.578,"endTime":315.178,"body":"Yeah. We will definitely get"},{"startTime":311.578,"endTime":315.178,"body":"into more detail about how people"},{"startTime":315.234,"endTime":318.458,"body":"can help with the funding side"},{"startTime":315.234,"endTime":318.458,"body":"of that. Towards the end of the episode,"},{"startTime":318.634,"endTime":326.986,"body":"either of you, can you tell me"},{"startTime":318.634,"endTime":326.986,"body":"some of the lovely things that you've"},{"startTime":327.018,"endTime":333.306,"body":"seen, some of the really good"},{"startTime":327.018,"endTime":333.306,"body":"reactions from people that you've"},{"startTime":333.338,"endTime":336.87,"body":"helped? Are there any that,"},{"startTime":333.338,"endTime":336.87,"body":"you know, stick in mind or."},{"startTime":336.99,"endTime":338.054,"body":"There's so many."},{"startTime":338.222,"endTime":339.45,"body":"So many. Yeah."},{"startTime":339.79,"endTime":341.766,"body":"Can I tell the one about the"},{"startTime":339.79,"endTime":341.766,"body":"Bird Center?"},{"startTime":341.798,"endTime":342.406,"body":"Oh, God, yeah."},{"startTime":342.438,"endTime":346.582,"body":"Yeah. Right. Okay. So this"},{"startTime":342.438,"endTime":346.582,"body":"happened in October, and it was really"},{"startTime":346.686,"endTime":350.262,"body":"special, and this kind of"},{"startTime":346.686,"endTime":350.262,"body":"thing happens all the time. But the"},{"startTime":350.286,"endTime":352.934,"body":"difference was because Melissa"},{"startTime":350.286,"endTime":352.934,"body":"and I also, as long on top of the"},{"startTime":352.942,"endTime":356.118,"body":"Dementia Arts Trust, we also"},{"startTime":352.942,"endTime":356.118,"body":"have a children's charity, the Little"},{"startTime":356.174,"endTime":359.654,"body":"Art Stars. We founding"},{"startTime":356.174,"endTime":359.654,"body":"trustees of a mental health charity"},{"startTime":359.702,"endTime":363.064,"body":"that works with children and"},{"startTime":359.702,"endTime":363.064,"body":"we've also got a business, so. So"},{"startTime":363.072,"endTime":366.392,"body":"we don't get to be at many of"},{"startTime":363.072,"endTime":366.392,"body":"these classes unfortunately. And"},{"startTime":366.416,"endTime":368.84,"body":"we would love to. And at the"},{"startTime":366.416,"endTime":368.84,"body":"beginning we were. And it's really"},{"startTime":368.88,"endTime":372.472,"body":"special and you go, you go to"},{"startTime":368.88,"endTime":372.472,"body":"more than I do, but I. It. But there"},{"startTime":372.496,"endTime":375.384,"body":"was just one class that took"},{"startTime":372.496,"endTime":375.384,"body":"place in October. We were celebrating"},{"startTime":375.432,"endTime":379.16,"body":"the 10 year anniversary of our"},{"startTime":375.432,"endTime":379.16,"body":"business. So within six months or"},{"startTime":379.2,"endTime":381.544,"body":"12 months of setting up our"},{"startTime":379.2,"endTime":381.544,"body":"business, we set up the charity."},{"startTime":381.592,"endTime":386.376,"body":"Which was mad and yeah, in"},{"startTime":381.592,"endTime":386.376,"body":"hindsight, I mean, great, but crazy."},{"startTime":386.488,"endTime":390.712,"body":"Like my husband said, you make"},{"startTime":386.488,"endTime":390.712,"body":"millions and then you set up a charity."},{"startTime":390.856,"endTime":394.0,"body":"But don't let the startup"},{"startTime":390.856,"endTime":394.0,"body":"phrase when you're barely surviving,"},{"startTime":394.08,"endTime":397.488,"body":"set up charity. But anyway,"},{"startTime":394.08,"endTime":397.488,"body":"that's the way we rock. So we were"},{"startTime":397.544,"endTime":400.592,"body":"celebrating this 10 year thing"},{"startTime":397.544,"endTime":400.592,"body":"and each morning we had different"},{"startTime":400.696,"endTime":403.12,"body":"groups, community groups in"},{"startTime":400.696,"endTime":403.12,"body":"our care homes. They were coming"},{"startTime":403.16,"endTime":407.024,"body":"into the Burns Centre, which"},{"startTime":403.16,"endTime":407.024,"body":"is in Ayre and having these art lessons"},{"startTime":407.072,"endTime":410.032,"body":"and it was a lovely"},{"startTime":407.072,"endTime":410.032,"body":"celebration. So the class, it's a"},{"startTime":410.056,"endTime":413.792,"body":"very structured format, these"},{"startTime":410.056,"endTime":413.792,"body":"classes, it isn't that you sit down"},{"startTime":413.816,"endTime":418.702,"body":"and just create. It is a"},{"startTime":413.816,"endTime":418.702,"body":"structured scaffolded lesson and"},{"startTime":418.726,"endTime":421.758,"body":"we've created that and it's"},{"startTime":418.726,"endTime":421.758,"body":"been tested by St. Andrew's University"},{"startTime":421.814,"endTime":425.15,"body":"and I can talk, we can talk"},{"startTime":421.814,"endTime":425.15,"body":"about that later. But the class was"},{"startTime":425.19,"endTime":429.054,"body":"actually a cape, a three tier"},{"startTime":425.19,"endTime":429.054,"body":"celebration cake. You know, you can"},{"startTime":429.062,"endTime":432.382,"body":"imagine like a wedding cake."},{"startTime":429.062,"endTime":432.382,"body":"And on the top of the cake was a"},{"startTime":432.406,"endTime":435.486,"body":"heart. So they're drawing this"},{"startTime":432.406,"endTime":435.486,"body":"cake and a lady's drawn the cake"},{"startTime":435.518,"endTime":440.01,"body":"but instead of doing the heart"},{"startTime":435.518,"endTime":440.01,"body":"at the top, she drew a Dolly's face."},{"startTime":440.31,"endTime":445.768,"body":"And then she began around the"},{"startTime":440.31,"endTime":445.768,"body":"painting to draw Dolly's faces. And"},{"startTime":445.824,"endTime":449.448,"body":"then she became very"},{"startTime":445.824,"endTime":449.448,"body":"emotional, crying, but also smiling"},{"startTime":449.464,"endTime":456.68,"body":"and laughing, saying, oh, oh,"},{"startTime":449.464,"endTime":456.68,"body":"I've remembered, I've remembered."},{"startTime":456.84,"endTime":461.576,"body":"When my girls were little, we"},{"startTime":456.84,"endTime":461.576,"body":"drew Dollys together and she began"},{"startTime":461.608,"endTime":465.992,"body":"to write I love you all over"},{"startTime":461.608,"endTime":465.992,"body":"the page and said that was what we"},{"startTime":466.016,"endTime":469.672,"body":"did. And then these memories"},{"startTime":466.016,"endTime":469.672,"body":"began to pour out. Oh, and we went"},{"startTime":469.696,"endTime":475.288,"body":"on the beach and we did this"},{"startTime":469.696,"endTime":475.288,"body":"and oh, it was just for 10 minutes."},{"startTime":475.384,"endTime":478.84,"body":"Memories pouring out about her"},{"startTime":475.384,"endTime":478.84,"body":"daughters. And as she left, we were"},{"startTime":478.88,"endTime":482.504,"body":"all crying. Yeah, everyone in"},{"startTime":478.88,"endTime":482.504,"body":"the room sobbing, but in a happy"},{"startTime":482.552,"endTime":486.808,"body":"way. It was so happy. Like the"},{"startTime":482.552,"endTime":486.808,"body":"joy was visceral. And then as she"},{"startTime":486.864,"endTime":490.872,"body":"left, she took each of our"},{"startTime":486.864,"endTime":490.872,"body":"hands and she said, thank you for"},{"startTime":490.896,"endTime":494.616,"body":"giving me my girls back today."},{"startTime":490.896,"endTime":494.616,"body":"Can you imagine if you gave a pill"},{"startTime":494.648,"endTime":497.8,"body":"to someone and that happened."},{"startTime":494.648,"endTime":497.8,"body":"It brought them joy. It Brought back"},{"startTime":497.84,"endTime":501.624,"body":"memories. And we're so"},{"startTime":497.84,"endTime":501.624,"body":"dependent on pharmaceutical cures,"},{"startTime":501.672,"endTime":505.064,"body":"we forget the brain's a"},{"startTime":501.672,"endTime":505.064,"body":"magical thing. And if you can tap"},{"startTime":505.112,"endTime":508.68,"body":"into something and art does"},{"startTime":505.112,"endTime":508.68,"body":"that, music does that, there are."},{"startTime":508.72,"endTime":511.704,"body":"There are dementia charities"},{"startTime":508.72,"endTime":511.704,"body":"working with music. Drama can do"},{"startTime":511.712,"endTime":514.632,"body":"that, dance can do that."},{"startTime":511.712,"endTime":514.632,"body":"Claire, you know that, that all of"},{"startTime":514.656,"endTime":518.152,"body":"these things can do that. And"},{"startTime":514.656,"endTime":518.152,"body":"we're just. That's what we do. We"},{"startTime":518.176,"endTime":520.696,"body":"do it with the art and we've"},{"startTime":518.176,"endTime":520.696,"body":"been doing it for 10 years and we're"},{"startTime":520.728,"endTime":524.572,"body":"really. When I say we, our"},{"startTime":520.728,"endTime":524.572,"body":"team are really good at this. They"},{"startTime":524.596,"endTime":525.148,"body":"were really good."},{"startTime":525.204,"endTime":527.708,"body":"There's probably another"},{"startTime":525.204,"endTime":527.708,"body":"really important point when we're"},{"startTime":527.724,"endTime":531.276,"body":"talking about joy. Right from"},{"startTime":527.724,"endTime":531.276,"body":"the start, Joanne knew that we could"},{"startTime":531.348,"endTime":534.652,"body":"teach people to paint and"},{"startTime":531.348,"endTime":534.652,"body":"draw. That included teachers. But"},{"startTime":534.676,"endTime":539.612,"body":"initially we went for more"},{"startTime":534.676,"endTime":539.612,"body":"experienced artists. However, when"},{"startTime":539.636,"endTime":544.956,"body":"you move into, like, the"},{"startTime":539.636,"endTime":544.956,"body":"charity side of it, that empathy"},{"startTime":544.988,"endTime":548.556,"body":"and engagement with the people"},{"startTime":544.988,"endTime":548.556,"body":"with dementia or with the children"},{"startTime":548.628,"endTime":552.17,"body":"dealing with trauma, it's not"},{"startTime":548.628,"endTime":552.17,"body":"a skill you can teach. It's something"},{"startTime":552.21,"endTime":556.842,"body":"that comes very naturally. And"},{"startTime":552.21,"endTime":556.842,"body":"watching our teachers in those classes"},{"startTime":556.906,"endTime":562.09,"body":"is just as joyful as the"},{"startTime":556.906,"endTime":562.09,"body":"experience for the people coming"},{"startTime":562.13,"endTime":565.882,"body":"to do the class. Very special"},{"startTime":562.13,"endTime":565.882,"body":"people, very special. It's amazing"},{"startTime":565.946,"endTime":566.938,"body":"team that go out there."},{"startTime":566.994,"endTime":570.074,"body":"Yeah. As a business and"},{"startTime":566.994,"endTime":570.074,"body":"charities, we understand that the"},{"startTime":570.082,"endTime":572.346,"body":"little art school, it's always"},{"startTime":570.082,"endTime":572.346,"body":"been the same. The Dementia Arts"},{"startTime":572.378,"endTime":575.958,"body":"Trust and the little art"},{"startTime":572.378,"endTime":575.958,"body":"stars. We build self esteem. That's"},{"startTime":575.974,"endTime":580.39,"body":"what we do. We do it by"},{"startTime":575.974,"endTime":580.39,"body":"teaching art classes. Every part"},{"startTime":580.43,"endTime":584.086,"body":"of our business and charities"},{"startTime":580.43,"endTime":584.086,"body":"is about self esteem. So when you're"},{"startTime":584.118,"endTime":587.254,"body":"recruiting, an interview, if"},{"startTime":584.118,"endTime":587.254,"body":"someone's trying to talk about their"},{"startTime":587.342,"endTime":590.102,"body":"art experiences and art, et"},{"startTime":587.342,"endTime":590.102,"body":"cetera, et cetera, we're kind of"},{"startTime":590.126,"endTime":593.622,"body":"going, so, have you ever"},{"startTime":590.126,"endTime":593.622,"body":"worked with people with dementia?"},{"startTime":593.686,"endTime":597.094,"body":"And if they haven't, honestly,"},{"startTime":593.686,"endTime":597.094,"body":"you can tell straight away anyway,"},{"startTime":597.142,"endTime":600.278,"body":"can't you? You can just see"},{"startTime":597.142,"endTime":600.278,"body":"when, when their face lights up about"},{"startTime":600.334,"endTime":603.752,"body":"the idea of going into care"},{"startTime":600.334,"endTime":603.752,"body":"homes, you just think it. We've,"},{"startTime":603.816,"endTime":606.664,"body":"we've, we've got it. We're"},{"startTime":603.816,"endTime":606.664,"body":"really disinterested in whether you"},{"startTime":606.672,"endTime":610.792,"body":"could do an oil portrait. What"},{"startTime":606.672,"endTime":610.792,"body":"we want to know is, can you touch"},{"startTime":610.856,"endTime":613.752,"body":"somebody's heart? Can you"},{"startTime":610.856,"endTime":613.752,"body":"bring something out of them? And"},{"startTime":613.776,"endTime":617.128,"body":"that's. That's our team. And"},{"startTime":613.776,"endTime":617.128,"body":"then. And the success of the whole"},{"startTime":617.144,"endTime":619.144,"body":"charity is down to them and"},{"startTime":617.144,"endTime":619.144,"body":"what they deliver."},{"startTime":619.312,"endTime":623.992,"body":"Yeah, that's a really valid"},{"startTime":619.312,"endTime":623.992,"body":"point and an interesting thing to"},{"startTime":624.016,"endTime":627.96,"body":"talk about, about the people"},{"startTime":624.016,"endTime":627.96,"body":"that are delivering and the extra"},{"startTime":628.04,"endTime":631.926,"body":"that they have to give. You"},{"startTime":628.04,"endTime":631.926,"body":"mentioned about the structure or"},{"startTime":631.998,"endTime":636.742,"body":"maybe the way of structuring"},{"startTime":631.998,"endTime":636.742,"body":"the actual sessions. So you're not"},{"startTime":636.766,"endTime":639.222,"body":"just going, right, here's a"},{"startTime":636.766,"endTime":639.222,"body":"bit of paper, do something. Tell"},{"startTime":639.246,"endTime":643.542,"body":"me how you have come up with"},{"startTime":639.246,"endTime":643.542,"body":"that. What goes into the thinking"},{"startTime":643.606,"endTime":647.57,"body":"behind what your teachers do"},{"startTime":643.606,"endTime":647.57,"body":"when they go to a care home?"},{"startTime":648.03,"endTime":651.862,"body":"Yeah. So our little art school"},{"startTime":648.03,"endTime":651.862,"body":"method is quite scaffolded that we"},{"startTime":651.886,"endTime":655.462,"body":"begin with shapes. Whether"},{"startTime":651.886,"endTime":655.462,"body":"we're teaching a five year old how"},{"startTime":655.486,"endTime":659.098,"body":"to draw a mouse or whether"},{"startTime":655.486,"endTime":659.098,"body":"we're teaching our online adult students,"},{"startTime":659.294,"endTime":662.274,"body":"you know, how to start,"},{"startTime":659.294,"endTime":662.274,"body":"everything begins with shapes. So"},{"startTime":662.282,"endTime":664.962,"body":"when we started the charity 10"},{"startTime":662.282,"endTime":664.962,"body":"years ago, we didn't know this was"},{"startTime":664.986,"endTime":667.714,"body":"gonna. Whether it would work,"},{"startTime":664.986,"endTime":667.714,"body":"by the way. It was probably one of"},{"startTime":667.722,"endTime":670.786,"body":"the most frightening things"},{"startTime":667.722,"endTime":670.786,"body":"we've done that first class, remember?"},{"startTime":670.818,"endTime":673.906,"body":"In truth. Yes. We ran this"},{"startTime":670.818,"endTime":673.906,"body":"class and we're like, is it gonna"},{"startTime":673.938,"endTime":676.194,"body":"work? And it was magic."},{"startTime":676.242,"endTime":676.674,"body":"They loved it."},{"startTime":676.682,"endTime":680.77,"body":"Yeah, we knew it was. And then"},{"startTime":676.682,"endTime":680.77,"body":"about a year later, we went to St"},{"startTime":680.81,"endTime":684.642,"body":"Andrews University to an"},{"startTime":680.81,"endTime":684.642,"body":"amazing psychology lecturer called"},{"startTime":684.666,"endTime":687.934,"body":"Maggie Ellis and said, look,"},{"startTime":684.666,"endTime":687.934,"body":"it works, but we don't know why."},{"startTime":688.022,"endTime":691.678,"body":"And she said, well, why don't"},{"startTime":688.022,"endTime":691.678,"body":"we work on that? And what they worked"},{"startTime":691.694,"endTime":695.854,"body":"on was the structure of the"},{"startTime":691.694,"endTime":695.854,"body":"class. So it's the scaffolded approach."},{"startTime":695.942,"endTime":696.254,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":696.302,"endTime":699.166,"body":"I want to explain how it"},{"startTime":696.302,"endTime":699.166,"body":"works. The scaffolded."},{"startTime":699.358,"endTime":702.75,"body":"So basic. Starts with very,"},{"startTime":699.358,"endTime":702.75,"body":"very simple shapes and then you just"},{"startTime":702.79,"endTime":706.366,"body":"build up and layer from there"},{"startTime":702.79,"endTime":706.366,"body":"and the teachers talk the students"},{"startTime":706.438,"endTime":710.622,"body":"through it at each stage. It"},{"startTime":706.438,"endTime":710.622,"body":"sounds very structured, but there"},{"startTime":710.646,"endTime":712.974,"body":"is always a little bit of"},{"startTime":710.646,"endTime":712.974,"body":"flex, especially in the dementia"},{"startTime":713.022,"endTime":717.244,"body":"classes, around how it ends"},{"startTime":713.022,"endTime":717.244,"body":"up. And the conversations you have"},{"startTime":717.252,"endTime":721.244,"body":"around the pictures is just as"},{"startTime":717.252,"endTime":721.244,"body":"important as the outcome for a dementia"},{"startTime":721.292,"endTime":721.836,"body":"class."},{"startTime":721.988,"endTime":727.04,"body":"So the designs are based on."},{"startTime":721.988,"endTime":727.04,"body":"On trying to evoke memory."},{"startTime":728.74,"endTime":734.092,"body":"They're very reminiscent"},{"startTime":728.74,"endTime":734.092,"body":"things like caravans or a pipe or."},{"startTime":734.196,"endTime":737.436,"body":"And we tailor it for the"},{"startTime":734.196,"endTime":737.436,"body":"demographic of the class. So we have"},{"startTime":737.508,"endTime":740.028,"body":"some men's classes, we have"},{"startTime":737.508,"endTime":740.028,"body":"some mixed classes."},{"startTime":740.124,"endTime":742.732,"body":"We had to do a whole load of"},{"startTime":740.124,"endTime":742.732,"body":"redesigns for the men's classes because"},{"startTime":742.756,"endTime":747.218,"body":"they were just basically, say"},{"startTime":742.756,"endTime":747.218,"body":"no more flowers, please. So we did"},{"startTime":747.354,"endTime":751.266,"body":"pipes and kilt because we're"},{"startTime":747.354,"endTime":751.266,"body":"in Scotland."},{"startTime":751.378,"endTime":752.082,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":752.226,"endTime":753.714,"body":"Although sound very Scottish."},{"startTime":753.762,"endTime":754.386,"body":"A Mini Cooper."},{"startTime":754.418,"endTime":757.666,"body":"A Mini Cooper that brought."},{"startTime":754.418,"endTime":757.666,"body":"But the. One of the ones that's evoked"},{"startTime":757.698,"endTime":759.762,"body":"probably the most"},{"startTime":757.698,"endTime":759.762,"body":"conversations is we've got a washing"},{"startTime":759.826,"endTime":764.69,"body":"line with a big pair of"},{"startTime":759.826,"endTime":764.69,"body":"bloomers on and it just always, always"},{"startTime":764.73,"endTime":765.83,"body":"goes downhill."},{"startTime":768.41,"endTime":772.25,"body":"We've definitely seen a real"},{"startTime":768.41,"endTime":772.25,"body":"shift through the 10 years, I think"},{"startTime":772.29,"endTime":777.002,"body":"because of the product. It is."},{"startTime":772.29,"endTime":777.002,"body":"It started very much as a very female"},{"startTime":777.066,"endTime":780.906,"body":"orientated audience. We were"},{"startTime":777.066,"endTime":780.906,"body":"going out to including in our school"},{"startTime":780.978,"endTime":785.306,"body":"classes. And over the years it"},{"startTime":780.978,"endTime":785.306,"body":"has evolved into very much a real"},{"startTime":785.378,"endTime":788.442,"body":"balance between men and women"},{"startTime":785.378,"endTime":788.442,"body":"coming to the classes."},{"startTime":788.506,"endTime":792.186,"body":"Yeah. During COVID obviously"},{"startTime":788.506,"endTime":792.186,"body":"everything, you know, in the lockdowns,"},{"startTime":792.218,"endTime":794.554,"body":"we couldn't go into care homes"},{"startTime":792.218,"endTime":794.554,"body":"or community groups, and they were"},{"startTime":794.562,"endTime":799.308,"body":"the last places to open up. So"},{"startTime":794.562,"endTime":799.308,"body":"we adapted it and went on to do videos."},{"startTime":799.404,"endTime":803.932,"body":"So we did live zooms with"},{"startTime":799.404,"endTime":803.932,"body":"people in their homes and in the"},{"startTime":803.956,"endTime":808.012,"body":"care homes. I mean, some"},{"startTime":803.956,"endTime":808.012,"body":"really funny moments, but also some"},{"startTime":808.036,"endTime":811.596,"body":"very moving moments as well."},{"startTime":808.036,"endTime":811.596,"body":"And there is an interview somewhere."},{"startTime":811.628,"endTime":814.78,"body":"We must make sure. It's on the"},{"startTime":811.628,"endTime":814.78,"body":"website, actually, with one of our"},{"startTime":814.82,"endTime":819.66,"body":"artists, Alec, and his wife."},{"startTime":814.82,"endTime":819.66,"body":"And they talked about what art had"},{"startTime":819.7,"endTime":823.756,"body":"come to mean to them through"},{"startTime":819.7,"endTime":823.756,"body":"the classes. I mean, he has his work"},{"startTime":823.828,"endTime":828.736,"body":"framed all around the house"},{"startTime":823.828,"endTime":828.736,"body":"and at one point his wife. So Alec"},{"startTime":828.768,"endTime":832.48,"body":"has dementia and his wife is"},{"startTime":828.768,"endTime":832.48,"body":"his carer. And she said, she said,"},{"startTime":832.52,"endTime":835.98,"body":"and I do the classes too. And"},{"startTime":832.52,"endTime":835.98,"body":"Alec just went. She's not very good."},{"startTime":838.92,"endTime":843.072,"body":"But his work was astounding"},{"startTime":838.92,"endTime":843.072,"body":"and he will just lose himself in"},{"startTime":843.096,"endTime":845.648,"body":"it. It's become a really,"},{"startTime":843.096,"endTime":845.648,"body":"really important part."},{"startTime":845.784,"endTime":848.688,"body":"Of their life and it became a"},{"startTime":845.784,"endTime":848.688,"body":"big part of how his, the children"},{"startTime":848.744,"endTime":851.552,"body":"could engage with them over"},{"startTime":848.744,"endTime":851.552,"body":"that period as well, because they"},{"startTime":851.576,"endTime":856.042,"body":"could get involved in what was"},{"startTime":851.576,"endTime":856.042,"body":"going on. And. Yeah, something to"},{"startTime":856.066,"endTime":856.79,"body":"talk about."},{"startTime":857.49,"endTime":862.57,"body":"And I wonder, thinking with my"},{"startTime":857.49,"endTime":862.57,"body":"creativity found hat on, and the"},{"startTime":862.61,"endTime":866.17,"body":"stories that I've heard"},{"startTime":862.61,"endTime":866.17,"body":"throughout all of the episodes of"},{"startTime":866.21,"endTime":870.01,"body":"that podcast is that they may"},{"startTime":866.21,"endTime":870.01,"body":"be coming back to something that"},{"startTime":870.05,"endTime":875.626,"body":"they haven't done for whatever"},{"startTime":870.05,"endTime":875.626,"body":"reasons, reasons we've spoken about,"},{"startTime":875.698,"endTime":879.066,"body":"Joanne, for example, you know,"},{"startTime":875.698,"endTime":879.066,"body":"being told you weren't very good"},{"startTime":879.138,"endTime":883.578,"body":"or there are more important"},{"startTime":879.138,"endTime":883.578,"body":"things to do. And so some people"},{"startTime":883.634,"endTime":886.51,"body":"are probably coming to"},{"startTime":883.634,"endTime":886.51,"body":"something that they never realized"},{"startTime":886.85,"endTime":888.65,"body":"that they would love so much"},{"startTime":886.85,"endTime":888.65,"body":"or never."},{"startTime":888.69,"endTime":892.826,"body":"Realized was missing time and"},{"startTime":888.69,"endTime":892.826,"body":"time and time again. And we think"},{"startTime":892.898,"endTime":897.45,"body":"the idea of children doing"},{"startTime":892.898,"endTime":897.45,"body":"with grandparents being able to do"},{"startTime":897.49,"endTime":902.362,"body":"something like this is joyous."},{"startTime":897.49,"endTime":902.362,"body":"Actually, we've just created a pack"},{"startTime":902.506,"endTime":906.106,"body":"which we will be putting up on"},{"startTime":902.506,"endTime":906.106,"body":"our website. Do you want to explain"},{"startTime":906.138,"endTime":908.008,"body":"that, Louis? Because that was"},{"startTime":906.138,"endTime":908.008,"body":"your idea."},{"startTime":908.114,"endTime":910.636,"body":"So it is. Well, it's actually"},{"startTime":908.114,"endTime":910.636,"body":"off the back of something you did"},{"startTime":910.708,"endTime":914.956,"body":"through coding, which was kind"},{"startTime":910.708,"endTime":914.956,"body":"of a learning tree."},{"startTime":915.068,"endTime":918.444,"body":"Yeah, it's like a tree of"},{"startTime":915.068,"endTime":918.444,"body":"memories and a tree. It's a therapeutic"},{"startTime":918.492,"endTime":922.444,"body":"exercise using a tree. So we"},{"startTime":918.492,"endTime":922.444,"body":"created a video doing it first of"},{"startTime":922.452,"endTime":926.204,"body":"all with children, and then we"},{"startTime":922.452,"endTime":926.204,"body":"created one that was very dementia"},{"startTime":926.252,"endTime":929.996,"body":"specific. And it's creating a"},{"startTime":926.252,"endTime":929.996,"body":"tree of memories. It's a really lovely"},{"startTime":930.028,"endTime":930.492,"body":"exercise."},{"startTime":930.556,"endTime":933.41,"body":"We engaged with some of the"},{"startTime":930.556,"endTime":933.41,"body":"care homes and some of the families"},{"startTime":933.54,"endTime":938.406,"body":"with the idea. And the first"},{"startTime":933.54,"endTime":938.406,"body":"care home we took it into has adopted"},{"startTime":938.438,"endTime":942.758,"body":"it as an engagement for when a"},{"startTime":938.438,"endTime":942.758,"body":"new resident comes in to talk about,"},{"startTime":942.894,"endTime":946.486,"body":"you know, all of their family"},{"startTime":942.894,"endTime":946.486,"body":"members memories, things that brought"},{"startTime":946.518,"endTime":951.414,"body":"them joy. And then they create"},{"startTime":946.518,"endTime":951.414,"body":"this tree of memories. And it's a"},{"startTime":951.422,"endTime":954.07,"body":"reference point Then for the"},{"startTime":951.422,"endTime":954.07,"body":"carers, when they're talking to them"},{"startTime":954.11,"endTime":958.374,"body":"around day to day activities"},{"startTime":954.11,"endTime":958.374,"body":"or finding out what they. I mean,"},{"startTime":958.382,"endTime":960.614,"body":"it might be the only art"},{"startTime":958.382,"endTime":960.614,"body":"activity they do while they're in"},{"startTime":960.622,"endTime":964.572,"body":"the care home, but it's. It"},{"startTime":960.622,"endTime":964.572,"body":"brings out all of this, these discussion"},{"startTime":964.636,"endTime":968.316,"body":"points which are there then"},{"startTime":964.636,"endTime":968.316,"body":"there for the carers and other visitors"},{"startTime":968.348,"endTime":969.388,"body":"to talk to them about."},{"startTime":969.524,"endTime":973.132,"body":"Yeah, it's a lovely exercise."},{"startTime":969.524,"endTime":973.132,"body":"And we're going to be selling the"},{"startTime":973.156,"endTime":975.692,"body":"pack and all the proceeds will"},{"startTime":973.156,"endTime":975.692,"body":"go to the Dementia Arts Trust. So"},{"startTime":975.716,"endTime":977.26,"body":"we'll be selling the pack on"},{"startTime":975.716,"endTime":977.26,"body":"our website."},{"startTime":977.38,"endTime":980.764,"body":"We get it and it includes"},{"startTime":977.38,"endTime":980.764,"body":"prompt cards, so it gives an idea"},{"startTime":980.812,"endTime":985.292,"body":"of the types of questions to"},{"startTime":980.812,"endTime":985.292,"body":"ask and the types of areas to. To"},{"startTime":985.316,"endTime":987.772,"body":"discuss. And then they can"},{"startTime":985.316,"endTime":987.772,"body":"build from there and obviously and"},{"startTime":987.796,"endTime":990.982,"body":"create their own extra bits"},{"startTime":987.796,"endTime":990.982,"body":"that they want to add on to it."},{"startTime":991.166,"endTime":997.99,"body":"Yeah, brilliant. Why did you"},{"startTime":991.166,"endTime":997.99,"body":"start. You said you were going, is"},{"startTime":998.03,"endTime":1001.894,"body":"this going to work? You said"},{"startTime":998.03,"endTime":1001.894,"body":"you did it quite soon after starting"},{"startTime":1001.942,"endTime":1006.15,"body":"the little art school, so why"},{"startTime":1001.942,"endTime":1006.15,"body":"did you think it was needed? Why"},{"startTime":1006.19,"endTime":1009.49,"body":"did you think it would be a"},{"startTime":1006.19,"endTime":1009.49,"body":"good idea that people would want?"},{"startTime":1009.79,"endTime":1014.214,"body":"Well, we both have family"},{"startTime":1009.79,"endTime":1014.214,"body":"members who had dementia, so we both"},{"startTime":1014.302,"endTime":1018.402,"body":"understood. We understood how"},{"startTime":1014.302,"endTime":1018.402,"body":"heartbreaking dementia can be, how"},{"startTime":1018.426,"endTime":1022.978,"body":"difficult it can be. And I was"},{"startTime":1018.426,"endTime":1022.978,"body":"just having a chat with somebody."},{"startTime":1023.074,"endTime":1025.522,"body":"Everything starts with a chat."},{"startTime":1023.074,"endTime":1025.522,"body":"It's a random chat. So I was having"},{"startTime":1025.546,"endTime":1028.706,"body":"a chat with somebody who"},{"startTime":1025.546,"endTime":1028.706,"body":"happened to work at Air United Football"},{"startTime":1028.778,"endTime":1033.026,"body":"Club and they have. They had a"},{"startTime":1028.778,"endTime":1033.026,"body":"charity and they were running a project"},{"startTime":1033.098,"endTime":1037.666,"body":"called Walking and Talking."},{"startTime":1033.098,"endTime":1037.666,"body":"Yes. And it was literally in conversation."},{"startTime":1037.698,"endTime":1040.85,"body":"Oh, I wonder if you could do"},{"startTime":1037.698,"endTime":1040.85,"body":"drawing with people living with dementia."},{"startTime":1040.93,"endTime":1046.156,"body":"And for me, the connection was"},{"startTime":1040.93,"endTime":1046.156,"body":"my grandma. And I just thought, oh,"},{"startTime":1046.348,"endTime":1049.964,"body":"let's try it. And it began"},{"startTime":1046.348,"endTime":1049.964,"body":"from that and we got this funding,"},{"startTime":1050.012,"endTime":1055.212,"body":"this very small pot of funding"},{"startTime":1050.012,"endTime":1055.212,"body":"to try it out and we did it and it"},{"startTime":1055.236,"endTime":1055.756,"body":"was."},{"startTime":1055.908,"endTime":1056.892,"body":"Yeah, it was amazing."},{"startTime":1056.956,"endTime":1059.772,"body":"It was amazing. And we knew"},{"startTime":1056.956,"endTime":1059.772,"body":"that. We knew from that moment, from"},{"startTime":1059.796,"endTime":1063.132,"body":"that very first class taught"},{"startTime":1059.796,"endTime":1063.132,"body":"by Ilana, our lovely teacher. This"},{"startTime":1063.156,"endTime":1068.31,"body":"is so long ago. And. And we"},{"startTime":1063.156,"endTime":1068.31,"body":"knew it was going to fly and it did."},{"startTime":1068.43,"endTime":1071.894,"body":"But we initially, we would"},{"startTime":1068.43,"endTime":1071.894,"body":"bring people into the studio and"},{"startTime":1071.902,"endTime":1074.87,"body":"we would do it with them. And"},{"startTime":1071.902,"endTime":1074.87,"body":"then we realized that the mobility"},{"startTime":1074.95,"endTime":1078.742,"body":"issues that were sometimes"},{"startTime":1074.95,"endTime":1078.742,"body":"involved meant we couldn't get to"},{"startTime":1078.766,"endTime":1082.582,"body":"people. And that was why we"},{"startTime":1078.766,"endTime":1082.582,"body":"created Art in a suitcase, which"},{"startTime":1082.606,"endTime":1085.366,"body":"means we can go anywhere, it's"},{"startTime":1082.606,"endTime":1085.366,"body":"totally transporting."},{"startTime":1085.398,"endTime":1089.126,"body":"And we engage with Alzheimer's"},{"startTime":1085.398,"endTime":1089.126,"body":"Scotland, with nhs, with various"},{"startTime":1089.318,"endTime":1092.55,"body":"dementia groups across the"},{"startTime":1089.318,"endTime":1092.55,"body":"community, and they bring together"},{"startTime":1092.59,"endTime":1095.624,"body":"the groups of people who will"},{"startTime":1092.59,"endTime":1095.624,"body":"benefit and then we can just go in"},{"startTime":1095.632,"endTime":1096.34,"body":"and deliver."},{"startTime":1097.44,"endTime":1105.368,"body":"Ah, I see. Tell me how anybody"},{"startTime":1097.44,"endTime":1105.368,"body":"can connect with you, contact you"},{"startTime":1105.504,"endTime":1108.952,"body":"Tell us what you need, what"},{"startTime":1105.504,"endTime":1108.952,"body":"you want, where they can go, how"},{"startTime":1108.976,"endTime":1112.408,"body":"they can help, everything you"},{"startTime":1108.976,"endTime":1112.408,"body":"want to tell the listeners to send"},{"startTime":1112.424,"endTime":1114.088,"body":"them back in your direction."},{"startTime":1114.264,"endTime":1118.968,"body":"Well, go to our website. So"},{"startTime":1114.264,"endTime":1118.968,"body":"it's Dementia Arts Trust and we've"},{"startTime":1118.984,"endTime":1120.52,"body":"got a. Contact us. We've got"},{"startTime":1118.984,"endTime":1120.52,"body":"to just get."},{"startTime":1120.56,"endTime":1121.624,"body":"Yeah, we put all of the information."},{"startTime":1121.712,"endTime":1126.068,"body":"There and, and you can get in"},{"startTime":1121.712,"endTime":1126.068,"body":"touch with us and we'd love communicate"},{"startTime":1126.084,"endTime":1130.212,"body":"with people wherever you are"},{"startTime":1126.084,"endTime":1130.212,"body":"in the UK or beyond and chat to them"},{"startTime":1130.236,"endTime":1133.828,"body":"about what we do and why."},{"startTime":1130.236,"endTime":1133.828,"body":"We're really proud of it and we're"},{"startTime":1133.844,"endTime":1137.156,"body":"really proud of our team and"},{"startTime":1133.844,"endTime":1137.156,"body":"moving forward on it. You know, we're"},{"startTime":1137.188,"endTime":1140.5,"body":"planning where we're going to"},{"startTime":1137.188,"endTime":1140.5,"body":"be going over the next 10 years."},{"startTime":1140.62,"endTime":1144.404,"body":"We've got a big celebration"},{"startTime":1140.62,"endTime":1144.404,"body":"this year in September. We're holding"},{"startTime":1144.452,"endTime":1149.108,"body":"a 10 day exhibition with a"},{"startTime":1144.452,"endTime":1149.108,"body":"symposium in the middle where we'll"},{"startTime":1149.124,"endTime":1152.036,"body":"be bringing other non"},{"startTime":1149.124,"endTime":1152.036,"body":"pharmaceutical approaches to living"},{"startTime":1152.068,"endTime":1155.768,"body":"with dementia together and"},{"startTime":1152.068,"endTime":1155.768,"body":"talking about the positives. We'll"},{"startTime":1155.784,"endTime":1159.592,"body":"be selling artwork to help"},{"startTime":1155.784,"endTime":1159.592,"body":"with our funding and we'll just be"},{"startTime":1159.616,"endTime":1162.6,"body":"holding the most amazing"},{"startTime":1159.616,"endTime":1162.6,"body":"workshops. So we'll be bringing all"},{"startTime":1162.64,"endTime":1165.656,"body":"our community groups and care"},{"startTime":1162.64,"endTime":1165.656,"body":"homes into this beautiful venue,"},{"startTime":1165.688,"endTime":1167.208,"body":"the Cutty Sark in Air."},{"startTime":1167.264,"endTime":1167.496,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1167.528,"endTime":1170.36,"body":"And we'll be holding the"},{"startTime":1167.528,"endTime":1170.36,"body":"classes. It's going to be, it's all"},{"startTime":1170.4,"endTime":1173.8,"body":"centered around World"},{"startTime":1170.4,"endTime":1173.8,"body":"Alzheimer's Day as well. So in mid"},{"startTime":1173.84,"endTime":1176.664,"body":"September and we'll be, we'll"},{"startTime":1173.84,"endTime":1176.664,"body":"be doing that. So that will all be"},{"startTime":1176.672,"endTime":1180.712,"body":"up on the website as well. And"},{"startTime":1176.672,"endTime":1180.712,"body":"maybe we can even put some of the"},{"startTime":1180.736,"endTime":1183.608,"body":"paintings that we're going to"},{"startTime":1180.736,"endTime":1183.608,"body":"be selling up there and 100% people"},{"startTime":1183.664,"endTime":1187.38,"body":"artists donate them, which is"},{"startTime":1183.664,"endTime":1187.38,"body":"so generous. And 100% of the cost"},{"startTime":1187.42,"endTime":1191.364,"body":"of the painting will go"},{"startTime":1187.42,"endTime":1191.364,"body":"straight to the charity and to delivering"},{"startTime":1191.412,"endTime":1192.68,"body":"more art classes."},{"startTime":1193.02,"endTime":1196.16,"body":"Brilliant. Oh, that sounds"},{"startTime":1193.02,"endTime":1196.16,"body":"like a really, really fun event."},{"startTime":1196.54,"endTime":1200.532,"body":"Thank you so much, Joanne and"},{"startTime":1196.54,"endTime":1200.532,"body":"Melissa. It's been so lovely to find"},{"startTime":1200.556,"endTime":1202.24,"body":"out more about this."},{"startTime":1202.62,"endTime":1203.6,"body":"Thank you."},{"startTime":1204.22,"endTime":1208.5,"body":"What a super episode. This has"},{"startTime":1204.22,"endTime":1208.5,"body":"been my first episode as part of"},{"startTime":1208.54,"endTime":1211.778,"body":"Podcasthon. Although the"},{"startTime":1208.54,"endTime":1211.778,"body":"initiative is in its third, third"},{"startTime":1211.834,"endTime":1218.258,"body":"year now, do visit"},{"startTime":1211.834,"endTime":1218.258,"body":"www.podcasthon.org to discover hundreds"},{"startTime":1218.274,"endTime":1222.37,"body":"of other associations through"},{"startTime":1218.274,"endTime":1222.37,"body":"the voices and talents of amazing"},{"startTime":1222.45,"endTime":1226.834,"body":"podcasters. That sounds a bit"},{"startTime":1222.45,"endTime":1226.834,"body":"boasty. Like me. You can find a link"},{"startTime":1226.882,"endTime":1230.85,"body":"to Dementia Arts Trust in the"},{"startTime":1226.882,"endTime":1230.85,"body":"show notes for this episode where"},{"startTime":1230.89,"endTime":1236.418,"body":"you'll also find a link to the"},{"startTime":1230.89,"endTime":1236.418,"body":"Creativity Found page for Little"},{"startTime":1236.474,"endTime":1243.66,"body":"Art School. Thank you. I hope"},{"startTime":1236.474,"endTime":1243.66,"body":"you enjoyed this episode. If you"},{"startTime":1243.7,"endTime":1247.228,"body":"did, perhaps you'd like to"},{"startTime":1243.7,"endTime":1247.228,"body":"financially contribute to future"},{"startTime":1247.284,"endTime":1252.668,"body":"episodes at"},{"startTime":1247.284,"endTime":1252.668,"body":"buymeacoffee.com/CreativityFound There's"},{"startTime":1252.684,"endTime":1256.22,"body":"a link in the show notes if"},{"startTime":1252.684,"endTime":1256.22,"body":"you are listening on a Value for"},{"startTime":1256.26,"endTime":1261.452,"body":"value enabled app such as"},{"startTime":1256.26,"endTime":1261.452,"body":"Fountain Truefans or Podcast Guru."},{"startTime":1261.596,"endTime":1265.952,"body":"Feel free to send a few sats"},{"startTime":1261.596,"endTime":1265.952,"body":"my way and if you have no idea of"},{"startTime":1265.976,"endTime":1269.264,"body":"what I'm talking about, you"},{"startTime":1265.976,"endTime":1269.264,"body":"can find out more by listening to"},{"startTime":1269.272,"endTime":1273.44,"body":"my sister podcast called"},{"startTime":1269.272,"endTime":1273.44,"body":"Podcasting 2.0 In Practice."}]}