The Visionary Woman Podcast
The Visionary Woman Podcast
How to Build a Strong Female Support System (with Special Guest Maria Spear Ollis)
Are you ready for a transformative exploration into the power of a strong female support system in business? Join me, your host Kirstie Fleur, as I engage in compelling discourse with my dear friend and intellectual property (IP) lawyer, Maria Spear Ollis. We unravel the intricate threads of balancing business with life, slowing down for personal growth, and protecting your online business presence.
In this unique conversation, Maria Spear-Ales uncovers the transformative power she's witnessed in her clients when they immerse themselves in communities of like-minded women. This dynamic environment fosters a balance between life and business, making the journey less daunting. We also touch on her podcast, 'Don't Rush Me', a beacon of resilience and testament to her commitment to personal development and business expansion.
Brace yourself for Maria's expert insights into the realm of intellectual property. The importance of trademark protection, the potential perils of launching a business without it, and the appropriate time to seek an IP lawyer's counsel are only some of the critical subjects we delve into. We also discuss the need for boundaries within female-focused communities and networks. Maria's advice could be the game-changing knowledge your business needs. Let's unearth, together, the invaluable treasures concealed in the world of IP. Trust me, you don't want to miss out on this one!
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Don't put your dreams to bed. You've done that enough. Now it's time to stir them up. This is your friend and host, Kirstie Fleur, with the Visionary Woman podcast, and I love resourcing the Visionary Woman, the creative, the artist, the business owner, the risk taker, and on this show, we will talk about what it means to get out of your own way and take your dreams to the next level. Join the conversation. Welcome to the Visionary Woman Podcast. We are so excited to be here with you today. I have with me a friend Maria Spear-Ollis, Maria. Am I saying that right? Yes, great, I'm so excited. We're going to talk about how to build a female support system in life and in business. We're joined with Maria today because we're going to talk about all the amazing things she does. She's an IP lawyer and a friend of mine. I actually got to benefit from her services recently. It was probably the most epic experience that I've had with a provider here in the natural.
Maria :Oh my gosh, I'm so serious. That makes me so happy to hear.
Kirstie Fleur :The whole IP and intellectual property and law stuff is very scary for me and confusing to run into Maria just through googling and trying to figure it out. I'm like she seems epic. She seems really amazing. She's talking about all the healing, wholeness, soul things or whatever. I had never seen anything like this. Your brand is like on par, thank you.
Kirstie Fleur :A little bit about Maria. She is a lawyer bringing peace of mind to coaches, healers and content creators and experts when it comes to IP protection, contracts and internet law. The focus of her law practice the legal apothecary is to help women maximize their impact by making the path to protecting and growing an online business accessible, really understand and low stress. Maria also has a passion for learning about ways to tend to our minds and our bodies in a way that creates positive change in the way that women do business her podcast she has a podcast.
Kirstie Fleur :She's a podcaster as well and it's called Don't Rush Me. It focuses on just that, while her community, the creative soul sisterhood, gives healers and coaches a platform to teach female business owners those mind and body based tools. When she's not hammering away at trademark issues or recording a podcast episode, you can catch Maria dancing to early 2000 hits with her two sons cooking with her husband and hollering at her dog to get off the couch. Yes, I love it. I want to jump in and talk about the legal apothecary and how you came up with this business model.
Maria :I started practicing law in 2010 and then was working. I worked in house and then worked at a law firm and then in 2015, knew I was ready for something else and thought I would try and go out of my own and just see what happened. When I started my practice, I knew I wanted to do that IP stuff. I didn't really want to go into litigation and filing lawsuits. I had been there and that was not a stress that I wanted to take on in my body, because I can't help but feel my clients' emotions when it comes to your own ere you empath, yes, yes, me too very much empathing here.
Maria :I get into it as much as they get into it, and it was just a different kind of a path. I wanted to stay in that world of okay, you've got a business, let's go in and dig and see what we can protect and how to protect it, because a lot of times at least as women, I've found that our businesses are just part of our identity hopefully a healthy part, but it's part of us. If you can protect those things that make you you and that you pour your heart and soul into, that's what I want to help protect. I went from working with any kind of IP client to now. Actually, when my first born was born five years ago, we moved to Michigan for a couple of years, which is where I'm from, to be close to family. I didn't want to be tied to any specific geographic location. I thought this world of online businesses and online creators, that was 2018, so pre, when everybody was working at home.
Maria :This world of online creators is really where I want to be, because there's so much I mean copyright, just to throw it an example that protects creative works. Traditionally, you're talking about music and film and that kind of thing, but now we've got online courses. We've got so much content out there that that's the stuff that we're protecting now. It's a really fun area of law to practice in.
Kirstie Fleur :Do you ever work with men?
Maria :I do yeah, I do work with men. That's one of the branding things that they tell you is you have to talk to one person.
Kirstie Fleur :Absolutely.
Maria :A lot of times I'm talking to women, but that certainly draws in men too. They like the vibe. Yeah, well, good for them.
Kirstie Fleur :I love that. I love how you were able to use your skills, your core competencies, and turn that and use that also the things that are important to you, like connected to your soul. Really, that's really cool. Let's talk about your professional journey, any activism, efforts or personal values connected to your business.
Maria :Yes, a lot of the work I do is with coaches and healers. There are two passions that I'm tied to currently. One is just this notion of slowing down a little bit. As women business owners. I worked with a business coach last year. It was my first coaching experience. I used to my husband would take the kids, would be gone or with a nanny or whatever, and I'd be like all right, I've got four hours. Here is my list. My list is long and I've got to get it all done. I can't stop to think about myself or anything. I just got to get it all done. I started working with this coach and she was like, instead of starting that way, she's like it sounds kind of intuitive. You don't have to meditate for an hour. You can just light a candle at your desk and just pause for a second and set the stage for your work day. That's that little thing made such a tremendous difference in the rest of my day and I didn't know at the time like nervous system and all that stuff.
Maria :But it's such a different place and even if, let's say, I was just creating content, just creating YouTube videos, that day, you can see in someone's body and in their physicality the tension or just like I have to get this done and move on. It's just this totally different place to create from, to work with clients from, and so the reason I started this community that I started is because I thought more women need to know about this, because people don't know I didn't know about the nervous system or anything like that, and so more women need to know about this. And then, just kind of along the same lines, wanting to work with healers and people in the wellness space is just this notion of sovereignty and autonomy when it comes to your health and your wellbeing, and being your own best advocate is something that I'm passionate about as well.
Kirstie Fleur :I absolutely love that. So is that how you started this community? And the community is called the Creative Souls Sisterhood, the one that's for healers, coaches and business owners. So, is that kind of where that was birth from?
Maria :Yes, yeah, exactly yeah. It's just so that women could hear about little different ways whether it's breast work, whether it's, you know, whatever it is to kind of add these little tools to our toolbox.
Kirstie Fleur :I don't know any lawyers. I don't know if you do that, are this self-aware. This is the lawyer that you want on your team. You know, and I will say, when we worked together, like it really did feel like Maria was like a part of my team. I'm like, okay, here's this mic, this is my crew, this is my team, this is what we're doing, but we're like, oh my gosh, we need these trademarks and, honestly, I didn't know which trademarks we needed or we didn't need. I'm like am I doing too much? I want to trademark everything, Some of my sayings and all that, or whatever, but it was really helpful.
Kirstie Fleur :Maria was like, okay, so maybe pivot this and turn it this way so it can be approved and be accepted. And then you realize that, okay, she's not doing this just so that she can make money. We need to be fiscal, so we need to eat when you live. That's sustainable. However, it just felt like the sole purpose was making sure that you get what you want out of this whole process, and I'm just not trying to sign you up for something or get you in here. You spent all your money doing this thing and then your trademark doesn't get approved. One of the things I remember you said was I really want to make sure this trademark gets approved, so you were doing everything to make sure that that happened. I feel like in order to be that type of person, you have to be so connected to yourself and your core and what you do really care about people to think that way.
Maria :Definitely yeah, and I do care. It does me no good if you're unhappy. At the end of the day and obviously I'm not the trademark office I can't make any guarantees, but I can make sure that all the little things are in place that should be in place to give us a better chance of you succeeding.
Kirstie Fleur :Right, oh, that's awesome. I'm team. I'm your team, I'm on your team. So we've been talking a lot on the podcast about building ecosystems and networks and how that can be sustainable for us as women. What do you feel like is kind of like I know what inspired you to create this community and this sisterhood, but the importance, like the intersectionality between your law practice and what you do like in the creative soul sisterhood. What's the intersectionality there that makes it to where? This is something that women need to be a part of. This is something that I could spend my life doing. Does it feel like a life's work type thing?
Maria :It does and it really feels like it goes together well, just because of kind of that passion and that mission that I mentioned earlier, because some of the people that come are we have a woman who's a sound healer and does the sound bowls and she's amazing. But there's also someone who sells mortgages and she's in, like me, a very male driven field that maybe doesn't have that feminine aspect worked in professionally and wants to incorporate some more of that into her daily life and practice. And so I love kind of the duality of it, welcoming in those healers and those wellness, the coaches and people who are kind of in that world already but that might learn something new from a different practitioner or something, and then these other professional women who are like I sell software for a living but I need this, I know that I need this, I know that I can't just go, go, go, go all the time and it's so interesting to learn about, you know, mindfulness or whatever the topic may be right.
Kirstie Fleur :So how do you feel like this has helped you grow your business? Because that's the thing right, that's the key. It's like connecting these women to their mind and their body. But how does it help you grow your business to the point where you're like I need to show other women that in this community, driven with other female entrepreneurs, this is how we can grow our businesses. So how have you seen business growth that way?
Maria :I've seen it. I mean on a personal, for my own business. I'm surrounding myself with the people that get it there's no really other way to say it because that's how they feel too kind of like-minded women that get this way of doing business, of incorporating life into it, Because I know that there's a time and a place for that. Go, go, go and do, do, do, and certainly I have those times blocked into my schedule. Okay, I gotta get it done today. Oh, absolutely, and it's kind of a balance, right.
Maria :But being with other women who know that if you've got a child home sick for the day, it's okay, it's okay to pause and have that day of pause and just taking time in your day to roll into it and to have some kind of ritual or morning practice, and so I think that those things, the more that we can incorporate those things into our life as the norm and not just like, all right, here's my self-care time, Like no, that's part of your business. Your business is benefiting from that because you are in a better state to attract and we can talk about that too, but attracting and also getting things done in a way that just feels better.
Kirstie Fleur :Yeah, that's so, so good. You know, I'm thinking about your podcast, the title Don't Rush Me, and I'm wondering like was there ever a time where somebody was like rushing you and like I feel like there's a little Maria, that's like don't rush me? Like saying don't rush me, I have to do this and I've got this going on, but I'm coming into it this way Like you're bringing yourself. So what's the story behind?
Maria :Oh well, when I told my husband the name of the podcast, he just started laughing because if we're going somewhere, he's like all right, we should leave in five minutes. I'm like just, I know I don't need the time update, I'll be ready, don't rush me. But also I saw it's that, but also just kind of again leaning into like having this slow start to the day instead of starting so activated. So it's kind of both of those things wrapped into one.
Kirstie Fleur :Oh my gosh, I figured there was a story behind it. I didn't know if it was going to be a husband behind it, but it reminds me of me talking to my husband. That's why I wondered. I was like oh, I wonder, because he'll say my husband will say sometimes you are so sweet, like he's been calling me molasses for years now. I'm like why molasses? He's like cause you're brown and you're sweet, but you're slow. I'm like first of all, it takes time. You know people say I woke up like this. I didn't wake up like this. No, I had to put this together. We have children, but I absolutely love that. Don't rush me. So what are some business successes and stories of growth that you've had? Maybe from women in business, your clients, or maybe for yourself, as you've leaned into not being rushed and to slowing down, into this ecosystem of female entrepreneurs that you're building.
Maria :Let me think about this a second.
Kirstie Fleur :I'm one for sure.
Maria :Well, I'm thinking, you know, thinking what I can share, oh, legally?
Kirstie Fleur :Yes, she's such a lawyer.
Maria :I mean, I have a couple of things I can share and some are just. You know, it's going back to that ease and that not rushing and just trying to make you know, as you said kind of in the beginning, that legal stuff can be so intimidating and I hate that because you know another one of my values, let's say, is making this stuff more understandable or at least taking some of that pressure off of you, because you as a business owner the business owner doesn't really need to be worried about this stuff.
Kirstie Fleur :I mean you do.
Maria :That's why I'm here, but it's not something that should take up your brain space. Your brain space should be taken up on the things that only you can do, right. And so that's why I love like you said I mean, it's just like music to my ears! I love to feel like I'm part of your team and like, okay, what's going on this quarter? And so that I can just take that and be like, okay, I'll run with that and make sure everything you know, every disclaimer, is where it needs to be and all the things need, and you can just continue doing what you need to be doing. And you know, I've had some clients. I have this it's a it's a contract template library for people who maybe they don't have any contracts set up, and so I've started rolling that out and instead of sending people a document, that's you know, here you go here's
Maria :a word document and you can. Good luck. It's set up in a way that's supposed to make it easier and I had a client describe it as mad libs. You know, just filling in, you know, clicking yes or no, and all of those things are supposed to be tools that I can provide to make this stuff less intimidating, to make it easier and just this is kind of a tangent, but just kind of in my YouTube or content or talking to clients, just being myself, I'm bringing more of myself into it because I don't want you to feel like, you know, you're talking to someone who's got an office downtown, who's wearing a suit every day. That's super intimidating.
Maria :I'm going to show up, you know, if I'm in jeans or whatever, and talk about. You know, I might have some crystals, you know, scattered around. I'm just going to lean into those things that make me me because I feel like that helps to build a connection with someone, and that's something that my clients have said. You know, it feels like I'm just kind of talking to a friend and that's what I want, because I don't want you to feel intimidated by all of this stuff. And that's some feedback that I've heard from clients as well and that makes it easier to you know.
Maria :Let's say, a conflict comes up and I'm thinking of a specific client who had her work copied by a really big retail outlet and so it made her I feel it made her more comfortable, you know to approach this and to get over the feelings that, not to get over the feelings that she was having, but to give me all the information, to give me the full story and trust me to handle it. She was comfortable to do that and we ended up getting, you know, a five-figure settlement for her because, you know, because that relationship was so good I think.
Kirstie Fleur :Wow, that's huge and I know you had to think about that one for a little bit, but that is huge. That's a really big deal. I mean there's so much. I mean I have so many stories. Just I mean she's a retail fashion, I don't know what. I'm sure that's discreet, but I've had an issue like that.
Kirstie Fleur :I think I reached out to you because of that issue that I had with some of my designs and tech packs and things that were stolen by a seamstress or a lady locally and I was like I want to work with the local women in the local community, all those type of things, and I was so sad. I'm like why would another woman do this to another woman? But you do have those things that may happen in business. There's a lot of things that happen in business and you need to be protected. You need to know your rights. You need to know do I have intellectual property here that can be protected? Can this person sue or not? Can I sue or not? And so that was a situation, a scenario where I was walked through with you as well. So that is amazing. She's the goat.
Maria :Sometimes you get those big settlements and sometimes you don't, but it feels really good when you do.
Kirstie Fleur :Yeah, so where and how do you cultivate sustainable and supportive business relationships, relationships for yourself personally that feel inspiring?
Maria :I want to say I've been in a couple of masterminds that really it really helps to be in that group setting where you're with other women business owners. Maybe your businesses are related, maybe they're not. For me it was, there were no other lawyers. So I love learning from people who are online, who are marketing, who might be selling. You know, I don't know some physical product which I don't do, but just learning from other women, just like little things that they do, whether it's on TikTok or whatever it is, because it's inspiring to see.
Maria :Number one, just the growth that can happen. And number two, okay, how can I take that and twist it and make it my own, whether it's a method or something specific. So I love mastermind groups because you know everyone's there to grow their business, but you also kind of get a momentum going from hearing other women and what's working for them, even if it's you know. I read this book and it was so inspiring taking on, you know, some of the tools that they learned. So masterminds are definitely one and just community. I mean that's again one of the reasons I started Creative Soul Sisterhood and I've gotten feedback from other members like this is so nice coming into here and not being in an environment of here's my business card and here's what I do, and, okay, who can I talk to next?
Maria :You know it's more of a community everyone kind of knows each other and supports one another, rather than it being that lightning round, you know, networking, quote, unquote. So definitely finding you know your people, wherever that might be.
Kirstie Fleur :Yeah, has that ever felt like risky for you, like you know, because you have kiddos, and so is there any point where you, like I, had to step back from business because of the kids and so stepping back out there, how did that feel I?
Maria :Definitely have to be good about my boundaries and, and you know, this particular community meets in the morning because that's way easier for me than you know. I mean we go upstairs for bedtime at 6 30. So happy hours are pretty hard for me at this stage in life.
Maria :So, so for now it's in the mornings, because that's what's easier. And I know there's been some talk about you know doing some events at night and stuff, and it's like, well, I have to, I have to plan ahead for that, because you know it's hard to say no. But yeah, just having those strong boundaries is important.
Kirstie Fleur :That is amazing. You're building what works for you and then whoever else comes along, hopefully it is what works for them and then they can lean into it. Yeah, there's so many networks out there, there's so many mastermind groups and groups for women and all kinds of things. But what I feel like is different about what Maria is doing is that it is so contingent on community and being with. I call it withness, like being with each other and you know, you know where it came from.
Maria :Is that saying of build what you wish existed? Yeah? Yeah, that's really what it was. I didn't see, I didn't see anything. Any networking group Again, I put that in quotes out there. That was kind of like the vibe that I wanted it to be and so I thought, well, I might as well try it and see if I can do it, see if I can balance it you know, without burning out, but see if I can do it and build what I wish was out there and that's what a lot of I see a lot of my clients doing, whether it's in their business or community.
Maria :Wise, it's like I wish there was something like this. Maybe I should try and create that.
Kirstie Fleur :I love it, it's so needed. I mean, like I said, you see, there's several groups and communities out there and it really is like hey, here's some lightning round, here's a person who does this, here's a person who does this, here's a person hey, do you have a connection for this? And it's very that driven and that is great for that community and we need that. You know, sometimes I need to pop into one of those communities and go hey, I need somebody for marketing. Does anybody know somebody reputable? And you got this group of women and you can do that. Other times it's like I need what you carry, or I need to be a part of a group where I can be with other women who are in business, who are entrepreneurs, who get it, and we are challenging ourselves to grow this way emotionally, socially, body, mind, spirit, those things. So it's all needed. I love that.
Kirstie Fleur :I feel like more of that is coming to the surface now. You know, yeah, of course, because there's all the talk around spirituality and all the things, or not, but I feel like more of that is coming to the surface as women are realizing that we really need that connection and that we can't just be running businesses and like hustle culture and wearing ourselves out. We really need something that's connected. So totally so, epic, can you give us some advice just about, or tips on on IP? Like when do we need IP? Like, when do we like if I'm starting a business, I'm an entrepreneur and I have this great idea, or I'm coming up with my own model or something or done for you service, at what point am I like reaching out to you as an IP lawyer? Or do I have something that I need to trademark? What do you think?
Maria :That's a great idea. I work great. That's a great question. So there are kind of different stages right where you quote unquote, need a lawyer and I think kind of break them out into okay, when you're first getting started and some people are super comfortable in the forming of an LLC, for example. So maybe you can do that on your own or you go through a service like Inc File or whatever it is, but kind of doing that balancing test of, okay, do I? What's the risk involved in this business that I'm doing if someone loses profits in their business, or is it a physical product that someone could theoretically get hurt? You know the LLC is there to separate you as an individual or your family, your family's money from your business, from your business and your business's bank account. Right off the bat I have a lot of people thinking, okay, do I need to file an LLC? And that's when I'll get a phone call.
Maria :Trademark protection here's what I say about trademark, which trademark covers your overall brand name, but also could be the name of a program or an offer or something like that. A community and I. In a perfect world, you will always have a trademark search done before you launch something because, worst case scenario you launch something, you get a cease and desist letter, you have to rebrand and start over and maybe, yeah, yes, and the rebrand by itself costs money, but you get a cease and desist letter and then call a lawyer and there's fees on top of that. So that's why, for my peace of mind and I'm very risk averse some people are not they're like I'm just gonna go for it, but at least getting that search taken care of. So you know, okay, red light, green light, like am I okay to at least use this and start?
Maria :Registration is not as important as that search part at first, and also when you're talking about logos and things, I mean marketing and branding changes. So maybe your logo doesn't have to be protected right out the get go, but at least clearing that name and making sure, like, can I use this? Is there any risk if I choose this name? Doing that on the front end? And then, in terms of the rest of IP, we talked a little bit about copyright, but copyright protects those creative things. So if you've got a course, if you've got worksheets, if you've got video trainings in a community of some kind even I mean slow clap for the copyright office you can protect captions on Instagram now.
Kirstie Fleur :No way.
Maria :Yeah, short blog posts. There's a word, not limit, there's a word minimum, so it can't be just a couple of sentences, but I mean many blog posts. You can register those with a copyright office because people are using their captions as blogs, basically, now, so that. And then there's also I mean so much content.
Maria :If you look at a blogger, you know a DIY blogger, you're kicking out content constantly and maybe pinning things on Pinterest, and so I kind of, with copyright, my method is, you know, is there a big time once in a lifetime thing like a book? Let's say you're writing a book, okay, yes, then obviously we want to register that book with a copyright office because that's a major, you know, prize possession kind of thing. Whereas with blog posts, I say, you know, find some interval, whether it's monthly or quarterly or twice a year, where you're looking back and you're looking through your analytics, which you're probably doing in your content creation anyway, like, okay, what's everybody really been drawn to? And those things that have been pinned a lot or shared a lot or clicked a lot, those are maybe, you know, the more eyeballs there are, the more copycat eyeballs there are, and so maybe we look back and say okay, these are the things that we want to register from the past quarter or month or whatever it is.
Kirstie Fleur :Wow, that is good information. So one of the things as you were talking, I thought okay. So when I talk to women, you know I talk to them about fleshing out their ideas as much as possible. Sometimes you do have to live through it, you have to work through it, you have to just get going. But sometimes your business name changes, sometimes your idea changes, sometimes your course changes or things change. So what's your recommendation there? Do you should you start? You know, as soon as you come up with a name, all the things? Of course, like you said, you go and check and see if it's available, right, but as things are changing, do you go try to file another trademark? Do you try to go get things copyrighted again?
Maria :Well, it depends on the change. If it's a complete name change, then yeah, I would. But in terms of materials and ideas, methods first of all, an idea should be as fleshed out as possible. So Uber and Lyft is my kind of go-to example, because it's the same exact idea, it's just been executed differently, different, branding, different, you know whatever maps inside the apps. So you might have two women with the same exact business idea, but what's protectable is the quote, unquote expression of that idea or their unique spin on that idea.
Kirstie Fleur :Their sauce.
Maria :Their sauce. There we go, their sauce. And so it might be literally the content that you write or the videos that you create, or the things that show your face and your personality and your stories. So that's important to remember when we're talking about protecting ideas. But as those things change, sure, from a copyright standpoint, yes, if a, let's say, a manuscript for a book changes and is edited into something new, then yes, you'd want to protect the new version.
Kirstie Fleur :Okay, this process sounds less intimidating because you're talking to us about it. But you can imagine and probably a lot of us have done this, because we're either solo pernures or maybe we've been in business a while, but we've probably all went out there and researched trademarks. Maybe you have even tried to do a trademark yourself. I definitely have.
Maria :Have you.
Kirstie Fleur :Oh, it didn't go good.
Maria :That's why my friend is here today. I was going to say I have fixed a lot of trademarks or tried, we might sometimes have to start over again.
Kirstie Fleur :You know Wow. Well, no, I actually pay. I don't even know what the company or thing was, but I thought I had vetted and did all the research. I am a very great researcher.
Kirstie Fleur :I have to pat myself on the back for that you know, and so I was really surprised that I picked this company. That was not great and they took my money and I never got a trademark. They just took my money and then just so things like that happen. And the reason why I'm even mentioning this is because you want to make sure that you talk to somebody who is reputable and knows what they're doing, cares about your business, your product, your service and the things that you're doing, and they're not leading you in weird directions. So this is good.
Kirstie Fleur :Okay, so one of the questions. This is going to be my first time asking this question, but I think about this on every podcast that I do and I'm like, okay, next time I have somebody in person, or if I do a Zoom podcast, or however we do it, I want to ask this question. So I am wondering what song are you listening to right now? So if we played, if we pulled your phone up and we looked at your phone right now, what song are you listening to? Or what book are you reading right now? That is helping you or moving you forward.
Maria :The song I'm listening to most is Better when I'm Dancing, by Megan Trainor.
Kirstie Fleur :Wow, better when I'm dancing. There we go. Okay, so you're a singer, yes, okay, vocals.
Maria :It's just a good like dance it out song and then reading. I just started reading a book called Burnout, which we were talking about kind of off air. That talks about these cycles of stress and dealing with If you're in a stressful situation, like handling that, but then afterwards dealing with the stress in your body and sometimes it has to be like a physical thing, like running or jumping, to get that stress out of your body. It's very interesting.
Kirstie Fleur :I love it. I mentioned earlier we were off air, but I mentioned earlier the Body Keeps The Score. It talks about similar things, about trauma being stored in your body and you don't realize it, but this really affects you moving forward and you being hijacked throughout your day and you're trying to run a business and you're not aware, you're not self-aware, you don't know what's happening in your body. It matters. So books like this Resource End Moving your Body. Is that one of your things? Yes, that's one of my things. I'm like. I may not be the best dancer, but you will find videos of me dancing or me moving my body just to get like. You know that flow and that energy happening.
Maria :Yes, for sure.
Kirstie Fleur :I love it. Well, Maria, thank you for joining us. To end our conversation, I want to ask you if you have any more tips and tools or anything you want to share with our audience that you feel like has helped you, or things you feel like they need to know for their journey as a visionary woman.
Maria :Oh, my goodness. Well, first of all, thank you for having me.
Kirstie Fleur :This has been so nice to be together in person.
Maria :And I, you know, I have a lot of resources. I've got a YouTube channel where I answer questions that I get all the time, and right now I have a free resource where, if you put in your information, I will do a little legal audit of your homepage. So I'd love to do that for people in your audience just to kind of like find those little blind spots and help you figure out how to fix them.
Kirstie Fleur :Amazing. Okay, so where can they?
Maria :find you At my website, www. heysomaria. com or @heysomaria on Instagram.
Kirstie Fleur :Okay, and if they want to get connected to your women's network?
Maria :Yes, it's creatasoulsisterhood. net.
Kirstie Fleur :Amazing. Okay, well, thank you so much for being on the show with us today. Thank you, you're welcome. All of Maria's links will be found in the bottom in the show notes, so if you guys want to check her out and get to know her and her offerings, you can search for those things there. Thank you so much for joining us on the Visionary Podcast. We'll see you next time. Thanks for listening and joining the conversation today here on the Visionary Women's Podcast. If you enjoyed this episode and would like to join our growing community FF Social Club, please comment, like and subscribe so that you can be updated on our upcoming episodes and more happening at www. freedomfleur. com. To catch the latest from me and to access amazing resources for visionaries just like yourself, please visit me on the web at www. kirstiefleur. com. Thanks again for hanging out with me and I'll see you next time. Until then, don't forget to be Visionary.