Streaming TV shows and Awards season

Greg and Tom discuss some recent streaming TV shows and the awards season.

• We discuss Tim Russ and his appearance on "Star Trek Picard" as well as our friend Ron Barbagallo. 
• Joel Silver somehow enters our discussion about Dead as a Door Nail.  
• Oh and Tom gets into the new "Perry Mason".  
• A bit of Everything Everywhere all at Once. 
• An awards show update. Our discussion of the Oscar show and Greg attending the Publicists Awards at the Beverly Hilton.
•  Oh and what about those "Banshees of Inisherin".  did we like it? listen to find out.  
• Tom and Greg meander about finally to get to talking about the "Mandalorian"
• A bit of James Bond rant from Tom.  
• More Star Wars  "Andor" Diego Luna and other  Sci Fi films.

Have fun with the podcast.


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Transcript

Podcast Episode 030

Greg Dyro: [00:00:00] Our buddy Tim Russ apparently did some guest appearances on the Star Trek show. Picard. 

Tom Burka: Oh wow. Yes, actually, now that I understand somebody gave me some spoilers for this latest season of Picard. I was told the first season wasn't that great. The second season was better, but now Oh, what they're doing now is amazing.

That's what I was told. I agree. Do you know what they're doing? 

Greg Dyro: No. 

Tom Burka: I can't tell you what happens in the third season unless you wish to waive your right to avoid spoilers. 

Greg Dyro: I wave my right.

Tom Burka: All right. Apparently they've gotten the entire next generation cast back together. 

Greg Dyro: Ah, apparently. And 

Tom Burka: Tim Russin on top of it. Yeah. 

Greg Dyro: But I heard that Tim was actually a change lane pretending to be Tuva. 

Tom Burka: [00:01:00] Oh that, oh, that makes sense because, he wasn't really a member of the next generation cast, was he?

Greg Dyro: No, but there was some, I thought there was some interaction, but maybe not. I don't. 

Tom Burka: don't know, but I have to say I thought he was terrific on poker face. Yes, 

Greg Dyro: he was. He was great and I'm really happy that he is been getting some some more significant things recently besides I, Carly.

Tom Burka: The the life of an actor and he's obviously a director and much more than just an actor, but, the gigs can be few and far between, and then they can cascade, just clump up so that you have to turn down jobs because. You're booked for something 

Greg Dyro: else, right?

Yes. That's yeah. Most, 

Tom Burka: and then two years go by and nobody says nobody cares. Nobody calls you. Nobody cares, right? Nobody writes. 

Greg Dyro: They don't write, they don't write that for you. They don't write anything for you. 

Tom Burka: I noticed that Mr. Bargello often posts on Instagram various versions of cells animation cells that he has restored.

Yes.[00:02:00] The unrestored version followed by, and it's always something incredibly classic a cell from Disney's Pinocchio or something 

Greg Dyro: like that. Yes. And a very pivotal scene from Pinocchio generally. 

Tom Burka: No, it's always something you, something cool and important. But for those of you, for those of you who are interested I would just ask you to look up Ron Barb's Instagram.

Greg Dyro: Yes. And our our feed, 

Tom Burka: I can't really say more than that. 

Greg Dyro: Our two-part episode with Ron, Barb. 

Tom Burka: And I mean that barely covered it, Ron. Has been working in this field for many years. Did, he told me he went to high school with Keith 

Greg Dyro: Harring, I think. Maybe he no. Yeah, 

Tom Burka: he 

Greg Dyro: went Keith Harring and he went to college at the Yeah, at the school for Visual Arts at the same time that, oh, there you go.

Yeah. What's his name? There's. I can't I don't really know him. Beck Beckett or whatever. There's a bunch of, there's a bunch of stuff about some of his classmates now. [00:03:00] Oh yeah. Gone. And Madonna was one of his one of his nude models in and art class. So before she was Wow.

A recording 

Tom Burka: artist. And there's an artist Drew, I can't remember, but he does these incredible black and white drawings of different old actors and stuff like that. And they're uhhuh, they're just incredible. And I can't remember his full name, but anyway. Okay. That's just great. Look.

Yes. One of my other friends went to school with Joel Silver. Wow. I know Joel and bought him a seat in the film forum dedicated to him, which simply says Joel Silver, the selznick of schlock, and sent the announcement to Joel Silver, who apparently was unhappy 

Greg Dyro: about it. Joel to shout a lot.

Tom Burka: He likes to shout a lot and he doesn't like to be called the sales nick of schlock, although, sometimes that's exactly what he was or has been 

Greg Dyro: or will, I don't know what. [00:04:00] Yeah Joel kind of faded away there for a while after he of left. He had a an office at Warner Brothers, which is how I know.

I don't know Joel and. He 

Tom Burka: I don't know. I can't speak to that, but

I think unlike some of his colleagues in the producing industry, he may actually not have been canceled. No, he 

Greg Dyro: was not. He was not. I think he bowed out before he got canceled, so no, 

Tom Burka: I, and 

Greg Dyro: I don't think he did anything. I don't know. I would expect, I don't think he did anything other than shout and yell at people.

Do you know what I mean? Yeah. 

Tom Burka: He was mentally abusive of everybody. 

Greg Dyro: Yes. But maybe not. That was his, not sexually, that was his defining characteristic. No, if you can have a defining characteristic and, you could a character a film producer in a movie that would be just based on, but they do that a lot.

That's the, it's a that's a trope. The producer that yells and screams 

Tom Burka: and in fact, Joel Silver, didn't he appear as and irate [00:05:00] producer slash director in Roger Rabbit? 

Greg Dyro: Oh, I don't know. That's a good question. I don't 

Tom Burka: remember. No, I believe so. In the first scene, did he ah, he's, yeah, he's screaming at Roger Rabbit.

He played himself, yeah, he played himself. Exactly. That was the joke, right? 

Greg Dyro: Yeah. It's like Captain Kirk. Hilarious. William Shatner playing, get a life. I did this silly TV show back in the sixties. You guys are still crazy about it. Get a life, get outta your basement. 

Tom Burka: I, this is so sad.

Oh, by the way, and excuse me, while I turn my mic off so I can clear my throat.

You're so lucky you didn't 

Greg Dyro: hear that. I will drink a cup of coffee while you do that. Okay, Hoover we'll hide the, no noise. Go ahead. Sorry.

Tom Burka: I forget what I was gonna say. You were clearing your throat. This was so long ago. Yeah. No, I don't know. A lifetime of alcohol and drugs and just getting [00:06:00] older will destroy your memory. and 

Greg Dyro: gentlemen. I think it just getting older cuz I don't have a lifetime of of alcohol and drugs.

Tom Burka: Listen, and I'll tell you, you reach a certain age I don't know, somebody told me they hit 40 and within a year, like they had the ache of the day. They had, they, they needed readers. They, it was like they instantly became old. Just like that. And, I, I. Told this guy 40, is it 40?

Is it once you pass 40, everything starts falling apart. 

Greg Dyro: That's 

Tom Burka: true. It's not funny, Greg. It's just what happens, 

Greg Dyro: guys? Guess just what happens. It's but, and then, and we before, yeah. Wait, what? What we said before? 

Tom Burka: Yes. Getting older is better than the altern. 

Greg Dyro: Oh yes. That's like a doornail.

Yeah, a doornail. 

Tom Burka: Like a doornail, right? 

Greg Dyro: death is the alternative? Dead as a door. You know the alternative? Oh 

Tom Burka: yeah. Not forgetting old I was [00:07:00] justing of, yeah, the opening sentences of a Christmas Carol. Ah, Marley was dead. Dead as a doornail, 

Greg Dyro: and we all know door nails and who knows what a doornail is nowadays?

It's like a doornail. What's so different about 

Tom Burka: a don't know. But when I first read it, not having ever seen a door nail, I just assumed it was a nail that helps fasten a door to its hinges or something like. 

Greg Dyro: And what exactly is a 

Tom Burka: door nail, Tom? I don't know. It's a nail that goes into a door. I'm sure of that.

Or maybe it's a nail made from a door. 

Greg Dyro: Let's look that up. Doornail. 

Tom Burka: Are you looking it up? Come on. Yes. Doornail 

Greg Dyro: definition meaning? Yeah. Yes. It goes back to the 14th century and 

Tom Burka: wow. And nails and doors back then, 

Greg Dyro: apparently. Sure. Maryam doesn't tell me anything about what the heck What 

Tom Burka: do we say?

It's still, there's no [00:08:00] definition. What the heck? 

Greg Dyro: No. Oh, where are you looking? The, there we go. The phrase likely comes from the fact that door nails are subject to a lot of wear and tear and are often hammered into place, making them difficult to remove. It means some video that's completely inactive, dead, or no longer functioning.

Tom Burka: You know that, to me, that just doesn't ring true. It just How 

Greg Dyro: about a nail? A nail in the coffin?

Tom Burka: That would be a coffin nail, 

Greg Dyro: wouldn't it? That's a coffin nail. Coffin. Coffin. 

Tom Burka: Coffee nail. Sorry, what? Sorry. What has just happening over there? Oh my God. By the way, have you been watching Perry Mason? 

Greg Dyro: I watched the first few episodes of it. It was a little dark for me. A little dark and dunno.

Tom Burka: Of this season or of the first 

Greg Dyro: season? The first season of this series. The first season, I thought it was a little dark. No. 

Tom Burka: It's a little dark, but I have to say the second season so far in my mind is so much better than the first season, cuz the whole first season. [00:09:00] Is aimed at setting him up as Perry Mason the lawyer.

Because it starts off and he isn't a lawyer and or he is investigating the first season, traces his path to actually being a defense lawyer in a trial. But the second season he's established, he's a lawyer, he has a practice and and I, to me it's. It's much smoother that

Excuse me. God damn it. I hope that didn't kill you. No. That's what it's just, her name is for it's very good. It's because of the period, they really recreate the period. It's, it's the depression, things suck. Everybody's unhappy. Everybody needs to drink, et cetera, et cetera.

People are wearing, pencil thin mustaches and those newsboy caps and shit like that, right? And that actually really enlivens the whole thing. But Perry is a very. It's a totally different Perry Mason. Yes. And maybe 

Greg Dyro: that's what uh, [00:10:00] I assume took me for the first season.

You assume. 

Tom Burka: I'm, I assume very different than he was in the actual stories. I don't know. I've never 

Greg Dyro: read any of the Perry Masons, that's a good question. Good question of our listeners. What listeners have read Perry Mason and can tell us Yeah, the 

Tom Burka: tonality of Perry, but I assume that the original Perry Mason television series was more faithful, although I always get it confused with Ironsides.

Ironside, yeah. 

Yes. Cause they were similar. And what's the difference between Perry Mason and Ironside? A wheelchair. A wheelchair, both of them. And William Cannon famous gravel voiced actor. Ironside 

Greg Dyro: was 1967. Ton side. 1967, 

Tom Burka: his name was Cannon 70 and he looked like an actual cannonball.

I'm sorry, you were saying? 

Greg Dyro: I was saying this from 1967 to 1975. I didn't realize it was that long [00:11:00] 

Tom Burka: now. Now you wanted to talk about the Oscars today? 

Greg Dyro: Yes, I think so. We had originally talked about talk, talked about talking about the Oscars. And the question of course is 

Tom Burka: maybe we can just talk about talking about the 

Greg Dyro: Oscars.

Yeah I think so because. Because I have not seen the major award winner, so it might be a difficult we were gonna, oh, I know it 

Tom Burka: might be difficult. We were gonna, 

Greg Dyro: Oscar b the broadcast, we're talking about the broadcast. Did we like the broadcast? 

Tom Burka: We can talk about the broadcast. Although I didn't wanna watch the Oscars this year, and part of the reason I didn't wanna watch it is I suspected, as was the case that.

Everything everywhere, all at once was going to win virtually every award for which had been nominated, which was which pretty much true. I think there are only two things that it was nominated for that it didn't win the category. But I did see the movie and I really didn't like it at all.

So I was like, oh, great. So I'm gonna watch them give awards to this movie that I [00:12:00] think shouldn't, I didn't be getting these awards. Yeah. 

Greg Dyro: We We plan to watch the, we were gonna we may watch it at some point this weekend. 

Tom Burka: I'd be interested to hear what you think. Yes. Myself and the people that I saw it with, we all felt You never got a chance as the viewer to get grounded in what was going on it, it was like a bad acid trip, but you tell me what you think. 

Greg Dyro: Okay. I will do that once, once I watch everything everywhere 

Tom Burka: and I watch it all at once.

But as far as the, look, the take on the broadcast was that it was a return to traditional non gimmicky Oscar broadcast and Uhhuh. I would agree with that, and I actually think it was pretty successful. Some people thought that was just dull. I didn't think so at all.

Greg Dyro: I did think that the set, although I was, the set design I thought was interesting. The backgrounds that they chose, the way they did the the projections in the back of the theater and stuff I thought were different. I will confess that I watched [00:13:00] the o the Oscar broadcast on a television in a bar with captions on eating barbecue in Pasadena.

Tom Burka: So did, could you hear the broadcast? No. No. I, okay, so you're basically visually critiquing the broadcast. 

Greg Dyro: Excuse me. Yes. Jimmy 

Tom Burka: Kimmel was very good. He, 

Greg Dyro: will, I will say that I did see clips afterwards and I did see the very end of the, Because we got back home from the restaurant.

Yeah. And saw the very end. The very end. The very end. So I was in Los Angeles during the broadcast. So 

Tom Burka: Los Angeles 

Greg Dyro: for our listeners. Yes, because I had attended the up the publicist awards on Friday night. Friday, not Friday night. Friday at noon. At the Beverly Hilton? 

Tom Burka: I think there was an article about the publicist awards planted in every possible periodical.

Ooh, 

Greg Dyro: that's good. [00:14:00] Yeah. I don't think you saw any pictures of me though, but 

Tom Burka: No, but I was there. No, 

Greg Dyro: You did maybe online. I had some on my Instagram feed. I had some on my Instagram feed 

Tom Burka: yeah. No and some of your friends actually won? 

Greg Dyro: Yes. Yes. So that's my Oscar weekend thing. I go to the awards, so one award I don't go to, I haven't been to the Oscars 

Tom Burka: yet.

So do are, do they have a lot of different award shows during the Oscar, week or two? Yeah. 

Greg Dyro: When is the sag, when's the SAG awards? That's a week or two, couple weeks before and stuff. And 

Tom Burka: it's a number of awards. It's, they do try to 

Greg Dyro: do. They do the technical the technical Oscars I think that week before and stuff.

And they do a lot of they do a lot of kind of awards self. 

Tom Burka: I'm Congratulations, yeah. Boy, I have to say, there, there were some at the SAG awards I voted for some things that I felt had been overlooked in [00:15:00] the awards. Categories for years. And I, I think Bob Odenkirk deserves an award.

I think, actually there's a lot of actors from that show that deserves awards. But it's like when Deadwood was around and the wire, they basically, I. There was one award given for either in, in the entire run of both of those shows, just one award went to them. And the acting and oh my God, there were so many people who deserved awards who were just completely forgotten.

Greg Dyro: Yeah. That tends to happen. And then I think ultimately Viewers find them and they get vindicated by, you know it being a hit in the long run history by, does that history make sense? No. History in the long run. The historically the project they did becomes very big.

Even though it won no awards, that tends to happen a lot. 

Tom Burka: You have something [00:16:00] like the Sopranos, which really had quite the audience and won plenty of awards. And it's considered by quite a number of people to be one of the best television shows that's ever been right on.

TV or wherever it was available, cable tv. And now you can see it's streaming. But there are other shows that just were never discovered by people which are, that are now considered to be amongst the best shows that have ever been on television. I don't think Deadwood.

It certainly had its following. It just didn't seem to have its admirers and the award in the award shows. But and the wire, I think just totally flew underneath the. Wire, so to speak. Yeah, underneath the radar for many people and is now considered to be one of the great shows, right?

That is, that's a show, but I think it's almost forgotten 

Greg Dyro: now. That's a show that I did not watch when it, when it was out. So at some point I'll probably need to. But for whatever reason, I wasn't into the concept of it at the time, so it just didn't watch it. [00:17:00] And I will go to, I'll say, I will say advertising, images, the way something's presented sometimes could influence myself as to whether I wanna watch it or not, because it, they're presented as something else sometimes in advertising and.

That film was way better or that show is way better than what the advertising made it up to be. Do you know what I mean? 

Tom Burka: Yeah. No, a absolutely. Sometimes things are just, I saw the movie, the ban Cheese of Sharon the other day. Oh, okay. That movie the ads for it really made it out to be, a black comedy really.

It's not really a black comedy, certainly it's just black. It's just black. It's just black. It's hardly, it starts off, there are some very humorous moments. It starts off, but it very quickly slides into something that is not a black comedy. I'll just say that. It gets 

a 

Greg Dyro: little ob absurd. It gets a little absurd.

Tom Burka: I don't know. At a certain [00:18:00] point and yeah, it's absurd. And then it becomes very serious. I would say. Yeah. Much to my surprise, I did not expect it to be as dark a movie as it turned out to be. And I was recommending to somebody before I had seen it to see it because anything that Martin McDonough does is usually just a work of art.

With the exception of that assassins movie that he made, which was in, in my mind, An awful waste of everybody's time, but participants and viewers alike. I will, that guy. I will say he's a genius. 

Greg Dyro: I will say that I thought the film was beautifully shot. Beautifully acted.

Beautifully, acted, beautifully, acted. Oh yeah. Very well placed story. Certain message about, friendship and stuff like that. I thought were there isolation but the directions that it went just felt. I don't know. More depressing to [00:19:00] me. And by the end of the film I felt very depressed.

And I'm like, if that was gone for then great. It's but I was depressed. 

Tom Burka: Sorry. No I think that ultimately it's a movie about loss and there are several different types of loss that are depicted in the story. Some that make sense and some that don't make sense. But the fact is that loss doesn't always make sense.

Sometimes things just end and relationships the presence of people in your life, et cetera, et and I think that's what the movie is ultimately was about in, in a really interesting way. But

And I saw the movie X last night. Okay. Which, I had heard it breathed new life into this kind of horror genre. And it did. It was just totally one of the most fresh and original takes on I won't call it the hacker movie, but no, I keep talking about hackers. Excuse me.

Huh. Where did you see this 

Greg Dyro: [00:20:00] on? I'm sorry. I did you say, did you see this in the theater or is this on? 

Tom Burka: No I saw it at home here on, on my television screen and uh, with good speakers, so really good sound. And I, no, it was really great. The movie shifted between different tones, between different scenes in a way that.

Really worked. Sometimes upbeat with like great music during this, scene showing the, this film crew getting together to make this porn movie, which Uhhuh it's not really a surprise. It's about a bunch of people who go off to a cabin to make a porn movie that's, it's that simple.

But it was very surprising and original to me. And in, the movie starts off, and this is not a spoiler in any way, but it shows police arriving at this cabin and just looking at a scene of, horror. Oh, the after. Yeah, the aftermath. But then, they, then it's [00:21:00] 24 hours earlier and they turn back the clock and they show what actually happened, and it really was good.

So anyway I will look it up. I don't know what, what have you watched recently? What have what are you onto? You're watching The latest season of Love is Blind. 

Greg Dyro: I'm blind. Good. I I did watch all of, I did watch all of poker face all the way to the last episode. 

Tom Burka: Yeah. So did I actually, I thought, the next to last episode was written and directed by Ryan Johnson.

And I thought it was, Easily the best episode in the entire thing. That's the the last episode I thought was good too, but what did you think 

Greg Dyro: that you're talking about? The escape from escape from mag or 

Tom Burka: whatever 

Greg Dyro: we escape from Shit mountain. That's it. Escape from shit mountain.

And I'm telling Gail it's, oh, it's a, it's, that's a play on escape from Witch Mountain. 

Tom Burka: Yeah. Yes. I did get that. Yeah. Yeah. No, and it had it had 

Greg Dyro: a lot of unexpected twists and turns, yeah. It did. 

Tom Burka: It, the show had [00:22:00] set up a certain convention for the way it told the stories every week, which is to say, you would watch somebody get killed in the beginning and then you would flash back like maybe 24 hours or whatever, to show. Our heroin, what is her name again? Char. Charlie. Charlie, to show Charlie arriving on the scene of where the murder is going to occur, and then it shows her, unraveling and solving the murder by the end of it, right? I just wasn't expecting things to go the way they did in that episode without spoiling anything other than it was unusual.

Greg Dyro: And the the woman that played the the girl that stole her car or whatever was she played in the Marvel, Mrs. Maisel, if you've seen Marvelous Mrs. Maisel before. 

Tom Burka: Yes. And actually I think one of the two brothers was played by a guy who I kept going, where have I seen this guy before?

He's a good actor. Where have I seen this guy before? And I realized that [00:23:00] I believe he was in, he was one of the kids in the Umbrella Academy. 

Greg Dyro: Oh. Which you've told me to watch, which I have not watched yet, but I need to 

Tom Burka: watch. Yeah. I would say the first two seasons of the Umbrella Academy are good. If you're looking for something that feels like it has been a adapted from a comic book series, which I, I think this was it sci-fi fantasy interest. The third season though, I can't get through. I keep trying to watch it and getting bored. So Uhhuh, I think they've run out of story. Which happens, 

Greg Dyro: man. Yes, it does. It does happen. 

Tom Burka: I hate to say this, but the Mandalorian.

Why don't we talk about the Mandalorian for minute? Okay. Season started recently. 

Greg Dyro: Wait. Let's start this up. Okay, now, okay. We're gonna talk about the, now we're gonna talk about the Mandalorian to completely talk about something different. There we go. 

Tom Burka: Exactly. Now we're gonna talk about the Mandalorian.

It's the third season of the Mandalorian. We're about, I don't know what, four episodes in [00:24:00] maybe. Yes. And I think it's time to declare that the Mandalorian has run out of story. I have no idea what it's about anymore. It just seems to be about sending the Mandalorian and his sidekick baby Yoda here.

And then once they get there, they're told that they need to go there. And then once they get to that place, they need to go over there and, planet to planet. And I don't know, it just feels pointless to me.

Greg Dyro: Oh, I agree. I agree on that. I agree. I agree. I'm watching and I have a lot of questions about this is the way, how do you. How do you procreate, in your shoot if you can't take your helmet off, and how do you have sex? It's like, how do you make more Mandalorian babies? I have 

Tom Burka: problems there.

I don't know, maybe these people, maybe they're a sec that is, are a sworn chastity. Now you can have sex in a Mandalorian outfit, [00:25:00] can't you? They have to pee and. I 

Greg Dyro: you take helmet, I guess you don't take off your helmet as you're okay. You can be completely naked and, without the helmet.

Maybe that's an AI thing. I can ask the AI to show me mandalorians with their helmets on having sex. And that'll be the rage, like the, anyway so I get too much into that. It's it's like a flashback to clingons and trying to figure. How can all Klingons be warriors?

It's how can all mandalorians be warriors? Aren't there Mandalorian, mailmen aren't there Mandalorian librarians, aren't there Mandalorian lunch ladies? I can see the lunch ladies. Wow, this 

Tom Burka: is. This is quite a rant for you. I think, look the first season of the Mandalorian was very fresh for me and a really great new take, right on Star Wars, using the elements in the Star Wars universe to make some of the best action sequences or episodes that I'd seen right in years, if not since the original movies, frankly.

But and there was a [00:26:00] big drive there and, protecting baby Yoda. And in, in spite of actually going against some of the principles of the Mandalorian sect or cult or whatever, or union, whatever you wanna call them striking for better bounty hunter wages.

But, and the second season, I really enjoyed too, because there was a whole, thrust towards finishing, getting baby Yoda where he belonged. And in the meantime, fighting against the empire all worked pretty well, even with Bill Burr. Appearing as a thief with a Boston accent.

That never changes. He has the Boston accent the whole way through and it's just, it's actually delightful to be honest. Yes. But uh, I agree. I agree. Yeah. But this third season, look at the very end of the second season spoilers guys. They, he drops off baby Yoda at the Jedi Academy or wherever it is, [00:27:00] and, Yoda's being cha trained and it's not Yoda, it's Grok, that's his name, right?

Gro. He's being trained as a Jedi, but apparently actually liking somebody or having an affectionate emotional bond with somebody else is completely at odds with being a Jedi, which is the most bullshit idea I've ever fucking heard. And so Roku is thrown out of the academy because he still cares for and would like to spend time with the Mandalorian.

Okay, fine. That just seemed stupid to me. I thought that the forest and the whole Jedi thing was about love and goodness and all those. They're going things that 

Greg Dyro: the empire, they're going down. They're going down the line of a monk or a, a priest where, the monk gives up the worldly possessions and gives up, kind of stuff.

But you are right. You don't quite the, a priest doesn't give up. His family per se gives up, a loving Yeah. [00:28:00] No, per that's exactly, 

Tom Burka: that's that. To me, this just, this was just a little too extreme Okay. And other people have pointed out exactly what you've said to me, which is, okay, they're an order.

They take vows of chastity or if not chastity, they simply Have to separate themselves from the world in a particular way, at least for training, right? Whatever. But I still thought it was bullshit. I just got bullshit. And they, and it seemed, because it seemed like a transparent, we've gotta get baby Yoda back with Mandalorian.

It's like they flipped a little switch, okay. You have to go back to him. And they reunite them at the end of the second season. And frankly, I think that was a. Where's some of that? So, I hate to say this. 

Greg Dyro: Okay. You hate to say it, but go on, say it. 

Tom Burka: Say it. You hate it. Think 

Greg Dyro: I'll you hate to say it, but go ahead and say it and I'll hate it.

Go ahead. 

Tom Burka: The character that Amy SADS plays Uhhuh. It's so ridiculously over the top with, the wacky [00:29:00] humor and the, yelling at the droids. And Amy Sadis is really something else. She is an amazing. Character actor. And she has been in everything. But I just wish that she wasn't in this, at least not in this particular character.

I don't like the character. She much, and so anytime she's too much, I think she's way over the top for the tone of the show. And she's like a circus clown in the. Basically yeah, I just, there's some lack of grounding in that world that. I find in the way that character has been written and performed, and I don't think you could perform in any other way than the way that she's performing it.

It's the way this character is written and conceived. 

Greg Dyro: It's a little bit, it's a little bit like, it's a little bit like give her. Give her a grounded a little bit of reality, where she speaks. Maybe she's a little bit too there's like too much comedy with the With the droids. I like the droids and I like the droids having a [00:30:00] personality of we're little worker droids, but we're, we like to be a bit mischievous.

And I think that's where they're going with that. And she's, yeah, 

Tom Burka: no, that's, 

Greg Dyro: I like that. And there's a long history at Star Wars of childlike comedy too. 

Tom Burka: That's true. To me it's more after a certain point in a movie series, sometimes it starts getting a little rye and comical and I would.

Point to the James Bond franchise as a perfect example of this. Yes. Sean Connery had his occasional Bon Mo mos or whatever you want to call them. His, we saw the Mandalorian Act actually do this in the first episode of the third season, which I think was an example of some kind of a problem he really knew how to use his.

He said after, a bust if somebody fell over on top of a, an antagonist and killed them the Mandalorian should be making quips like that. But, Connery used to occasionally do that. Of course, he had those terrible puns that he would say all the time, but by the time that Roger Moore [00:31:00] took over that character, The James Bond movies just became these ridiculous comedies, with the the Jackie Glee esque sheriff who kept appearing in these Roger Moore episodes and them, Roger Moore and this, all of a sudden it became Jesus Christ.

I can't think of anything. The Sally Field, Bert Reynolds, 

Greg Dyro: Yes. That's a, that's the era, that's the era of smokey in the Bandit. Yeah, 

Tom Burka: they did the Smokey in the Bandit thing. All of a sudden James Bond was smokey in the Bandit and, they had Jaws, this character that had, Braces, dangerous braces.

It was just awful. What happened? I think the Roger Moore movies are generally just. Horrendously bad. In, in, yeah. Hon, and let's face it, when people watch Old James Bond movies, they do not watch the Roger Moore movies, right? They always watched the Sean Connery. Which in itself, when Sean Connery returned to the franchise, would never say never again.

That movie was a little on the [00:32:00] comical side as well, and it's kinda and it was really interesting because Daniel Craig basically brought that whole movie series back to real drama. 

Greg Dyro: I felt I felt you would occasionally. I felt the Pierce Bronson, I felt the Pierce Brosnan era could have been good, but they all seemed super low budget to me.

The Pierce Brosnan bond films. Does that make sense to you? They didn't feel, 

Tom Burka: yeah, I think we talked about that some. And I thought that Pierce Bron was actually fairly good James Bond and that. Sequences and moments in the different James Bond movies that I thought were very good with Bron, but I don't know, like Golden Eye, great beginning and then Uhhuh, it just gets weird.

After all lot of top, come on. And I know these names were, part of the brand, but the original Jesus Christ what is it? She would strangle people with her legs. That was her thing. A rip off of Blade Runner. Yeah. [00:33:00] Yeah. 

Greg Dyro: Chris.

Chris, that was their Chris was her name and Blade Dress. Yes. 

Tom Burka: Yes, that's right. Yes. Yeah. She was uh, very dangerous. Yeah. Darry Hannah boy. She was, you gotta stay away from her, at least in that movie. So wait a second. Where were we? We were, we're talking about the Oscars, about the Manda.

Ohian. We started off Manda. Now we're on the Mandalorian. So have we. I don't know how we managed 

Greg Dyro: to get here. Yeah. So jumping out of Mandalorian for a second. Have you watched Andor, please? Did I tell you that? Did I ask that already? 

Tom Burka: Andor? Uh, I did. I watched all of Andor. Okay. And I watched the whole season.

What did you think about it? And I really enjoyed it. I enjoyed it in a way that I hadn't enjoyed some of the other series. I liked Loki. I liked that's not really a Star Wars. Movie, but offshoot or series. Series, they find things. Yeah. And I liked the Mandalorian and I liked Bova when it became essentially Mandalorian season 2.5.

It got good, [00:34:00] but and or I really enjoyed because I thought that was the it was supposed to be spies in the Star Wars universe. So that a new take for me carrying out covert ops and that kind of thing. 

Greg Dyro: And I thought the world building was more, more realistic and they didn't use a lot of comedy per se, in it.

Robot 

Tom Burka: comedy, I should say. No, they they're I can't think of a comical scene in that entire season. 

Greg Dyro: No. And so it was more serious and the entire beginning sequence where they were in the questionable part of town and he was searching for his sister, his signs of his sister and. He went into, I what amounted to the bar slash brothel slash I thought all of that was done very well and felt a true good science fiction film, which showed the reality of day-to-day living.

So I, [00:35:00] I thought that was, it was impressive. The whole series. And I really liked Diego Luna quite a bit in the whole series. Oh, 

Tom Burka: yeah. He was very, very good. Yeah.

No, and I remember seeing Diego Luna in

In another movie. And he was very good in that he had a very small role. And I should probably name the movie since we're talking about him. It was it was a movie which took place on A really horrible dystopian world earth as a dystopia. And there was a, it was, I believe Lium was the name of the movie.

Oh, 

Greg Dyro: was he? I forget what was he in that I don't remember that he was in that. 

Tom Burka: He was like the best friend of of the central character played by Matt Damon. Ah, and he also had a connection to the, what's her name in the underworld boss, who Uhhuh would sometimes hire them to do jobs.

And Matt Damon had, He'd been [00:36:00] convicted of various felonies and so now he worked in a factory and he was clean and then, he decided that he needed. Money to get up to Elysium and which was very expensive. And so he went to the Underworld Boss and he and Diego Luna were gonna pull off this very difficult heist of a kind for them.

And then of course, things go wrong. And interestingly enough, the guy who played the head of the underworld in Elysium Uhhuh. Was Pablo Escobar in in the early Pedro Pascal series. Oh what was the name of that fucking shit?

Greg Dyro: They 

Tom Burka: don't. Narcos. Narcos. 

Greg Dyro: Narcos. Oh yeah. He was in Narco. Yeah, that's right. He was in Narcos. Yeah. And 

Tom Burka: He was truly amazing in that guy. And he's a Spanish actor, as I understand. And. But [00:37:00] anyway nothing I'm saying makes any sense or has any connection to anything, but No, sorry.

It is what it's an accident. It's waiting to happen. It's early. Yes, it 

Greg Dyro: is. And it's not really, it's it's early for me. Later for you. Midday. Yeah. 

Tom Burka: Yeah, midday. We're on different coasts right now. You're in Los Angeles right now? 

Greg Dyro: No actually I'm in Arizona right now, so we're not quite on different coast.

Oh, you're back? Yeah, I'm back. Oh, wow. In Arizona. Oh, I was in Salt Lake City last week. Yeah, last week in the snow. It was snowing while I was in Salt Lake City. 

Tom Burka: They have a sa saying in Iceland, if you don't like the weather, just wait five minutes. But now basically that saying goes for everywhere 

Greg Dyro: in America.

Everywhere. Yeah. Los Angeles has been rainy city the last the last month or so. Super 

Tom Burka: rainy. It was Rain. That's not normal. Isn't no, not at all. We've had a lot of rain. 

Greg Dyro: Arizona's had a lot of rain. We were in Utah last year at the same time, and it was very nice. And this year while we're there, it was still the mountains are covered [00:38:00] in snow and literally it was, it snowed while we were there in, in the city.

It was like the second day of spring or something, and it was snowing big time. 

Tom Burka: Yeah, no, yesterday here in, in New York the day started off, it was pouring. And then by around three in the afternoon, all of a sudden the clouds parted and the sun came out and it got warmer and it was beautiful.

And then by the evening there were 25 mile an hour gusts of wind, and it was, a lightning storm and, it's just mother Nature has just had it with all of us. 

Greg Dyro: Yes, she has. 

Tom Burka: Yes, she has, Gaia is re, re rebelling. Can't speak anymore either. The problem is staying up all night, drinking just doesn't prepare you for the next day.

Greg Dyro: No it prepares you. I'm not sure what it prepares you for, but it does prepare you. You're 

Tom Burka: prepared Mason, ma mainly just to lie around with a cup of coffee, moaning whole. That's my experience.[00:39:00]