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Ep. 46: Talking Halfway There & Cask Fest with Sean Nordquist of TBBW and TBBA

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Tampa Bay's beer scene continues to evolve in remarkable ways, with the Halfway There Beer Festival marking its 11th year and an exciting new Cask Festival joining the calendar. Sean Nordquist of the Tampa Bay Brewers Alliance shares the vision behind both events, detailing how they showcase the region's maturing craft beer community.

Halfway There transforms the historic St. Petersburg Coliseum each August into an air-conditioned beer lover's paradise. This year features a creative new layout with brewery alcoves previewing major Tampa Bay Beer Week events, creating a festival-within-a-festival experience. Most exciting is the dedicated Belgian beer section, highlighting the classic imports that shaped Tampa's beer culture before being somewhat overshadowed by the local craft explosion.

"I was drinking a Chimay White recently and had forgotten how incredible this beer is," Nordquist shares, highlighting the importance of reconnecting with brewing heritage. The festival balances these classics alongside innovative offerings from Tampa Bay's thriving brewery scene, all with presenting sponsor Visit St. Pete/Clearwater showcasing the region's beer tourism appeal.

October brings something entirely new with the first-ever Tampa Bay Cask Festival at Yuengling Brewery. This outdoor evening event celebrates the unique experience of traditional cask-conditioned ales - what Nordquist describes as "living beer" with distinctive flavors and mouthfeel. Approximately 30 breweries will participate, with Yuengling sending special casks from their Pottsville brewery. The festival will feature live Celtic music, traditional pub fare like scotch eggs, and beer-stein shaped pretzels to complement the diverse cask offerings.

What makes this festival particularly special is the variety of approaches - from authentic English-style mild and brown ales to experimental craft styles like double IPAs conditioned in casks. "It's a totally different sensory experience," explains Nordquist, noting that these lower-alcohol, subtle beers create the perfect atmosphere for gathering with friends.

Don't miss these celebrations of Tampa Bay's beer culture! Tickets for both events are available through tampabaybeerweek.com, but capacity is limited to around 800 people for each festival, so early purchase is recommended for these showcase events highlighting the region's world-class beer community.

Speaker 1:

Hello and welcome back to the BeerWise podcast. This is the podcast that looks at what's going on in the world beer-wise. Hello and welcome back to the BeerWise podcast. I'm your host, mark DeNotte, and I'm the editor of Florida Beer News. In this episode, I'm joined by one of our few repeat guests, sean Nordquist of the Tampa Bay Brewers Alliance and Tampa Bay Beer Week. Sean is here because he wanted to talk about some of the changes coming to the Halfway there Beer Festival, the festival that marks the halfway point to Tampa Bay Beer Week, as well as a new cask festival that is coming to the Yingling Brewery taproom later this year. Sean talks about what's new, what's changing and what beer drinkers can expect.

Speaker 1:

But before the interview, I need to thank Coppertail Brewing for their support of the BeerWise podcast. Coppertail Brewing has been making Florida-inspired beers just outside Ybor City since 2014. Look for Freedive IPA, night Swim Porter, cloud Dweller, hazy IPA or Unholy Triple throughout the Sunshine State, wherever fine ales and lagers are sold. Now here's my conversation with Sean Nordquist from the Tampa Bay Brewers Alliance. Sean, thank you very much for joining me on this. You're one of our few repeat guests we've ever had, you and the folks at Brewers Alliance and Beer Week, so welcome.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I figure I've been around long enough. I'm bound to come back around once or twice, right?

Speaker 1:

Well, and you do. I mean no offense, but you do do the same things a lot. So we're talking, but it's interesting to talk to you about changes and what's going on with this week's halfway there. So I wanted to to start out with. Before we get to the specifics, though, I want to ask what's been going on with the brewers alliance and, uh, I know you're always busy. What's that? What projects do you are on your slate right now?

Speaker 2:

um, so obviously, you know the the event planning is always a big thing. So halfway there and then the cask fest, uh, later in the year, um, you know, as you know, you're planning. These things takes, takes months. Um, I always laugh when somebody comes oh, yeah, I'd like to do, um, you know, a big festival, uh, next month, like, okay, okay, good luck with that, um, but, uh, and then, uh, we're also, you know, we're also, you know, we're always, you know, working with USF St Pete, the Brewing Arts Program.

Speaker 2:

We have a new cohort of students that will be very shortly going off for their interviews. So every one of the students who finishes their program submits their top three breweries that they would like to do their internship at. One of my roles is to set them up with interviews for each of them, because part of the process in entering the industry is learning how to interview. And so, even if, like I mean, some of them already have the internship lined up, they took care of it on their own, but we still want them to go through that process of interviewing so they know what kinds of questions are going to be asked, they know how to, they know how to be prepared for them so they will interview with with, with all three of the breweries that they've picked, and then I'll make this and then I'll talk with the breweries, find out, you know how how the students did, and then I'll talk with the breweries, find out how the students did and then I try to give everybody their first choice, but then we'll get them placed. So that should all be done in the next few months. So that's not a difficult thing, it just takes time. I've been spending time doing that.

Speaker 2:

We are working on our next you sort of looking ahead to 2026, continuing our partnership with Visit Safety Clearwater, which has been a great, a great, a great partnership. You know, obviously, you know they're really highlighting the, the brewery, you know the breweries of, of Pinellas County, but you know, but when people come for beer week, you know they're here for all of Tampa Bay and so the folks that that visit St Lucie, they want to have some, some presence at any of our events, no matter where we're at. So they are actually our presenting sponsor for Halfway there, which of course, is in downtown St Pete. So it makes perfect sense to have them there, yeah, and then continuing to find out what our breweries want and need and adjust our sales as the industry changes. It seems to be changing more and more rapidly. But yeah, that's what's going on with the Alliance these days.

Speaker 1:

Okay, okay. Well then, let's not waste any time and let's talk about Halfway there, because Halfway there wasn't there at the beginning of Beer Week. So how did Halfway there come about and what is the well, let's start with that. How did Halfway there come about?

Speaker 2:

So Halfway there came about. I think this will technically be year 11, although we didn't do one in in 2020, obviously, um, but it really was. It came about because, uh, and you know, the board of tempe beer week, which I was on um, said we need to have something sort of the middle year. You know, something we need to, we need to generate revenue is the bottom line, but but let's, you know, we want, we want people to be thinking about our, our beer scene, our beer culture year round. So what if we did? You know, this is so. That's where the name comes from. It is. It is halfway to to beer week and it is now. You know, it's always in August and so it's always been a.

Speaker 2:

You know, the very first two years, I think, was we really? We made it, we tried to make it a rare beer fest. So everything that was being served there was supposed to be some sort of rare and I think that back then, that meant something. Now, rare beer it's not. You know, people don't really talk about rare stuff anymore, and so it sort of shifted and then really sort of became now we're just, you know, this is our mid-year beer festival.

Speaker 2:

So what we're doing this year that is going to be a little different is really trying to bring a lot of the focus to what Beer Week in March is all about. So we're really we actually have several. So if you've ever been to the, the safety Coliseum, it's a big, you know. But there's these alcoves off to the side which are really cool, these cool. So those alcoves are all going to be almost like a mini beer week in those. So we're going to have some of the big events that happen during beer week will be set up in those alcoves to really promote, hey, this is what we're doing during during beer week. You know, mark your calendars. In some cases they might even have their tickets ready for sale, you know, just, I mean, I don't want to give away, I don't want to do too many spoilers, but like best Florida beer, who puts on, puts on a brewer's ball, they'll have an alcove, coppertail Brewing. They're going to have a special event during during beer week. They'll have an alcove. So there will be you know those a kaleidoscope. Be, you know those, a kaleidoscope? Um, for you know Florida Avenue, uh, we'll have, we'll have have an alcove, so, um, so we'll have. I think there's seven or eight of them. Um, that'll be really, really pushing. Uh, you know, reminding people what what beer week is is all about.

Speaker 2:

Okay, we'll also have, you know, of course, a lot of breweries, mostly from the Tampa Bay area, pouring their beers around. Business Hemp and Clearwater will be there, obviously, sort of front and center, as our presenting sponsor. Yeah, so it's a great fest. It'll be inside, air conditioned, so everybody will be happy about that. There will be food trucks available right outside. We'll have, you know, dj playing, music, all that kind of stuff, but it's a really, it's a lot of fun. It's, you know, the breweries really, you know, get involved. They're really showcasing some of their cool new stuff that they've put out, and it's a fun event. So I always have a great time there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, likewise. It's interesting. I forgot that it used to be a rare beer event. So what can beer drinkers look forward to at this point? I'm one of those guys that I remember the Rare Beer Fest and I kind of miss the, although you know, drinking a bunch of barrel-aged beer and then trying to function in the afternoon is not always the wisest idea. But can you speak a little bit more about what kind of beers do we expect? Um, somewhere between rare and year round, or how are you involved in that process, or is it the breweries that pick what the?

Speaker 2:

breweries, all the breweries you know, they pick their own beers and I think, um, some of them really go out of their way to bring like really cool and interesting stuff. Uh, they, they say, you know, we want to bring some. And maybe it's even like, hey, we did this, this one off, or we did a treatment on this other thing, or a different twist on this, just to show off for for this set. You know some some to say, you know, they, they just want to bring their core beers because they, they Everybody views participating in this festival a little differently. Some of us say, hey, we want to drive either people to our tap room or we want to drive people to retail sales. We want people to if they're not regular drinkers of our beer. Here's the stuff you're going to get your round. So I think you'll see a wide variety and it's you know for and the other, not just variety of of from that aspect, but also just as a as a beer consumer.

Speaker 2:

Whatever kind of beer you like, you will find something at this festival, from the, from the lightest of light beers to you know, you mentioned the barrel age Imperial Stouts, sours, super Hoppy IPAs. There will also be some NA offerings there as well. I'm sure that some people will probably be pouring some of their ciders, or maybe even some of their THC drinks. Um, so, so there's. You know, the more that the breweries diversify what they're doing, uh, there's going to be, um, you're going to get, more of that kind of diversity, particularly the ones that have just started with some of those other, uh, those other beverage options. They want people to try them off, try them out. So, um, so, yeah, so there'll be some. There'll be some of those for sure.

Speaker 1:

Okay, and are there? Are there folks? And are there? Are there folks? Are you're locked in folks that are not from Florida, that are coming?

Speaker 2:

Or is it everybody that's Florida, or is everybody Tampa Bay, or so actually we, one of the one of the alcoves is going to be probably almost entirely imports, so probably a lot of Belgians, a lot of that. And one of the big events during Beer Week is celebration of Belgian beers with the Independent and you get a lot of breweries, like you know, like Delirium and Folk, so a lot of that. I mean those were big players in the growth of the beer culture in Tampa Bay and so I think over the years and as our own brewing industry has grown so much, I think a lot of that kind of got forgotten and so we're bringing, because it is some of my favorite events have been, you know, the celebration of Belgian beers. You know having you having people, you know having some of those, those brands show up and getting to taste, because you don't see them very often.

Speaker 1:

Um, well, and one of the beautiful things about those two is is like we forget. As a beer drinker, I forget where I came from all the time. You know, those were the beers that opened, opened my mind, and I forget, uh, because my palate changes as much as anybody's, and so in everything that I drink now, I'm I'm not always craving a quad or a triple or a Belgian pale, and it's nice to be reminded of how beautiful a thing like Orval or blue is.

Speaker 2:

Yeah absolutely, in fact. I mean, I was actually just visiting a friend of mine last weekend and we were, we were out and I they had a Chimay White. I was like, oh man, I haven't had that in forever. So I had one and I was like I'd forgotten how incredible this beer is, and so I tried. Like I said, you and I are both surrounded by this all the time, and sometimes it's easy to get blinders on.

Speaker 1:

Yes, but it's interesting in some of the beer classes that I teach and some of the experiences that I participate in, it's getting so much harder to get Belgian beer, especially English beer too, but you have to have someone to champion that. You have to have someone to wave the flag, otherwise it's going to get forgotten and distributors don't order it. Stores don't order it Unless there's somebody that's pounding the table for it. It's going to get forgotten.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I think that's why I was really excited to be able to have this. So the Independent is going to be represented there. Veronica has been a. If your listeners don't know Veronica at the Independent, what are you doing? You need to get over there because she has been a champion for the European. You know the, the european beer. You know, uh, influx forever I mean, you know, since long before you know, a lot, of a lot of people were even probably old enough to drink beer.

Speaker 1:

Not, I'm not calling her old, but um between dunderbox and uh, independent and some of the other places. I mean, that's where we got our. I got my beer education oh, beer education years and years ago, and so it's nice to see them still. The beers haven't changed. The people certainly have, but the beers haven't changed.

Speaker 2:

And we've got our friend Tom Barris working for the Global Beer Network, so he's actually helping coordinate that and bringing in a lot of those really great beers.

Speaker 1:

Yes, know, coordinate that and bringing in a lot of those, a lot of those really great beers. Yes, and it's, and he knows. So it's nice to have the, the beer guy, in the beer industry that's then putting the stuff on the shelves. Yeah, he knows. Yes, yes, very true, very true. Um, can you talk a little bit. Moving back to the beer fests, though, um can you talk about where, uh, what led to the, the event being hosted at the coliseum and as a venue, uh, what's what's going on? What to expect from the coliseum? So?

Speaker 2:

we used to move the event around every year and we would initially we tried to have it go back and forth across the bay St Pete, tampa and then, and I'm not sure at what point, we decided that we're just going to keep it in St Pete. But it was because so much of the big stuff that happens during Beer Week always happens in Tampa. All the big events I mean almost every single one of them happens in Tampa, with the exception of like Buddha, for not having that green bench, you know, and so you know, having something on on the St Pete side of the bay. It just felt like, you know, that's fair. Also, trying to have a, an event in August. You are limited because you have to be inside. So, um, and so, yeah, it's.

Speaker 2:

But so the Coliseum has been around, I mean it's. I would say it's a hundred years, I mean it's, or maybe even longer, I mean it's. It's been around for a really long time. It's, um, you know it's a historic building. Uh, in, you know, downtown St Pete. Um, it's a historic building in downtown St Pete. It's, you know, it has a really great history of the stuff that's been, that's happened there over the, you know, over the decades. I know lots of people who had their high school graduations and proms and that kind of stuff there and you know, and banquets and all kinds on your weddings, I mean you name it it's it's happened there.

Speaker 2:

So it's and it's just, it's a really it's a beautiful building there's, there's lots of parking, it's very accessible, it's right off the highway, so it's it's not hard to get to. So really it's sort of. And then it's also very it's adjacent immediately to downtown St Pete. So you know, once you're done there or before you go over, that you know there's you have immediate access to dinner or lunch or whatever it is you want to do.

Speaker 2:

So it really sort of, you know, has established itself as a really sort of central spot, and then of course you know being air conditioned and being big and open and you know super high ceilings and they've got a stage. I mean they've got everything you could possibly want there, absolutely, and I think that at least for the foreseeable future, it will continue to be that. Now I know that they are planning some renovations that were supposed to happen. I think they were supposed to happen this year and then they pushed it to next year and now I guess, actually been pushed another year and I think a lot of that has to do with storms and city budget all that. But we've been assured that we have at least next year to continue having it there.

Speaker 1:

Okay, alright, very good. Well then I want next. I want to shift gears and talk about Caskfest. So, as you have halfway there on in the Tampa, on the St Pete side, now you've got Caskfest that's going to happen on the Tampa side. Can you talk a little bit about what? How did this? How did this come about? Halfway there was supposed to be halfway to beer week, so how did cask fest get?

Speaker 2:

uh, get life um, cask fest is came purely out of my head because, um, it was, it's something that I've wanted to do for a long time. Um and uh, you know, I I'd sort of tossed it around a few times and, you know, had some somewhat lukewarm response from some of the people that I mentioned it to, uh, as far as putting it as an. But a number of the brewers that I talked to were really excited about the idea. Uh, and so the and then I. So the more I sort of focus on on those conversations like hey, if we were to do like a Cascale Fest, um, you know, would you be interested in participating? Uh, and almost every brewer that I talked to was interested in it.

Speaker 2:

So then, you know, and that was going on for for quite a while, probably a couple years almost I happened to casually mention it at a um, at a partner, uh meet like a membership meetup thing that we were doing over at ulali, uh, last year, and and I was then approached by Adam Stack at Yingling saying, hey, so tell me more about this Caskfest idea. I said I mean, honestly, that's like what I've said is like that's as much as I've got so far. And he said, well, would you, would you be open to to us hosting it at the new Yingling Drafthouse and Kitchen? I thought, oh well, that's an interesting idea. And so I went and visited and as soon as I went if you've not been there, I mean, the place is gorgeous and you know it'll be, you know, mid-october, so you know, unless we have another repeat of last year, weather should be gorgeous.

Speaker 2:

We're actually going to do it in late afternoon evening. Gorgeous, yeah, we're actually going to do it in late afternoon evening, um, and the more we talk about that, so now it is, it is finally, uh, you know, taking shape and it's going to be the outside. We're aiming to have 30 ish breweries, um, most of which will be, you know, local, but they're, I mean, there's some breweries from out of town that have expressed an interest in coming down and participating. Yingling is actually brewing some beer to put in casks and they're going to send it down from Pottsville, which we're pretty excited about.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that doesn't happen.

Speaker 2:

No, it doesn't, it doesn't. So we were really excited about it. They've been such incredibly great partners to work with, so they're actually providing. Like you know, there are, they're the host and they're setting up stage and sound, and so we'll. Also, we're going to have live music. There's a um band called celtic conundrum who's going to be playing.

Speaker 2:

Uh, we have curated a menu, uh, to be served. So if, when you go there, have a a sort of standalone kitchen, um, concession kind of stand out there in their big beer garden, so we're going to have a lot of the kind of food you expect to have with cask beer. So I think we're going to have some scotch eggs. We're going to have some actually going to have beer stein shaped pretzels with beer cheese, you know, with with beer cheese and mustard, that kind of stuff. So it's gonna be a lot of fun. We'll also have some vendors there, um, you know, for t-shirts and mugs and you know and whatever. So, um, if you're a vendor and you'd be interested in in participating in our event, let me know. Um, we we haven't started signups for that one yet, but we will soon. We're looking at October 18th for that one.

Speaker 1:

I think the event's already on Facebook the event's already on Facebook.

Speaker 2:

I mean, tickets are technically on sale, even though we haven't announced any breweries yet, but we've actually already sold a few tickets. But I just know that I'm super excited for that one because it'll be the first time I'm ever doing. It Should be a beautiful day. It's a really big open space. Yeah, should be a lot of fun. So I'm really excited for that.

Speaker 1:

Awesome, awesome. Then how did you land on a Cask Fest?

Speaker 2:

What is it about Caskale that people should experience? I think I mean, for me it's because I remember the first time I ever had a Cascale and it's just a totally different, totally different sensory experience drinking it it's, you know, and the beers, you know, they tend to tend to be lower in alcohol, particularly if you, if you go overseas, you know, and and and the, the beers, you know they tend to tend to be lower in alcohol. Um, particularly if you, if you go overseas, you know, in England, scotland, um, and every bar you go into it has at least two or three beers on cask there, uh, they're, um, you know, the flavor is great, the mouth feels great, uh, it's a, it's a, it's just a different beer drinking experience that I think everybody should, should, get to, you know, to get to try at least once, or once or twice. It's the perfect beer for sitting around, you know, watching Premier League football. It's, you know it's.

Speaker 2:

It's also great for sitting around the pub drinking, you know, and because there tend to be lower in alcohol, you can have more of them, um, without you know, without it, uh, you know, knocking on your ass too badly, um, so it's. But there's also really a whole culture around around cask beer. Um, you know there's a whole movement in in England. You know it's. You know camera, it's the I've got to remember. It's the something, something about real ale I mean, it's the I've got to remember.

Speaker 2:

it's the something, something about real ale I mean it's a campaign for real, for real ale, right, um, and uh, you know the, the idea being that you know the, that cask is the only real ale, um, you know which which? Okay, yeah, that's a little pretentious, but but, but, but it's um, but it's interesting because it's, you know, because caskk really is sort of a living beer. That's one of those. It will go bad If you don't finish the cask in a certain amount of time. You're going to have to dump it. So we want a lot of people to show up so we don't have to dump any beer?

Speaker 1:

Absolutely. Do you know what the capacity is or the number of?

Speaker 2:

tickets. I mean, we're hoping to get 700, 800 people, so it would be significant. When we first proposed it to, when we sat down with Yingling, we said, well, we can have about 3,000 people here I was like, oh okay, slow your roll. I would rather have it be small and successful the first time around. Now, if you know as we do it and I have no doubt that it will be successful and I think that we will be able to grow it to that eventually but I'm I'm happy to take it slow steps and build up to that.

Speaker 1:

OK, and then what is? What kind of beer do you expect with Caskales? Is it going to do you think that and again, I'm sure this is there's a lot of brewer selection up to this, but I know other cask fests I've been to. You do both traditional and modern. Do you expect that? Do you expect more of a traditional sense? Are you going to, as the organizer, going to ask for certain styles?

Speaker 2:

So no, the only criteria we're going to give to any brewery that participates they have to bring at least one beer on cask. What kind of beer, it is entirely up to them If they want to bring multiple. Even better, if they also want to bring some of their other brands and bring a jockey box, that kind of stuff, to pour those, that's great too. I expect there will be some that go the super traditional route, and so you'll see English Milds, brown Ales, traditional Pale Ales, you know that sort of thing. And then you're going to get some others that you know what. I'm going to throw a double dry hops, double IPA, you know, you know and put it on cask and see how that goes. I think you'll have some that decide to get really experimental to see how it goes. Some might decide to throw in some big, you know, high ABV something in there. But yeah, I think I expect it to run the gamut of choices.

Speaker 1:

That's awesome, that's a good time too, and it's a good way to experience this particular I wouldn't say style, but this particular experience of beer. Yes, yeah, yeah, I agree. Is there anything else that you want to make sure that folks know about these two events before we go ahead and sign off?

Speaker 2:

I say I mean as fest goers. These are two events you won't want to miss. They're a lot of fun. Yeah, there's some beer nerdiness involved, but it really is. They're not super niche. I think you'll have a great time. It'll be a great experience all the way around. I think you'll have a great time, it'll be a great experience all the way around, and particularly for halfway there.

Speaker 2:

If you want to get a small taste of what, what the stuff going on at Beer Week is all about, particularly if you've never experienced Tampa Bay Beer Week before, getting to see like some of the different stuff that's going to be going on is a lot of fun. To see like some of the different stuff that's going to be going on, uh, is a lot of fun, and you don't often get the opportunity to have, uh, that many of of Tampa Bay's best breweries all in one spot, um, uh, particularly inside, um, uh, to you know, to be able to try to be able to try them out. So it's I, I, I recommend, um, you know, uh, uh, you know, getting your tickets soon, cause with, like with the Coliseum, we do have a limit. I mean, I think, I think the limit is about 800. And so it. You know it is possible that that one will sell out.

Speaker 1:

And did it sell? It came close to selling out.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it came close. Last year was a little well. Actually a year before before was a little dim. We've sort of been creeping back up. Since COVID it's sort of been creeping back up.

Speaker 1:

Okay, okay. And where can we go to find more information about the festivals?

Speaker 2:

Probably the best place is on Facebook or Instagram any of our social medias, you know or Instagram any of our social medias. You can also look at Tampa Bay Beer Week website that has that'll have all the information.

Speaker 1:

The Alliance website has it too, but it's going to take you to the Tampa Bay Beer Week website, so tampabaybeerweekcom or at TVBW.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and then also, if you go to our Facebook page, has the events and stuff on as well.

Speaker 1:

Okay, very good, sean. Thank you very much. Always a pleasure having you as a guest.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, sir.

Speaker 1:

We look forward to seeing you at halfway there and at CassCast. Absolutely. That was my conversation with Sean Nordquist of the Tampa Bay Brewers Alliance. My thanks to Sean for carving out time to speak with me about the upcoming festivities that the organization has planned. Support for the BeerWise podcast comes from Coppertail Brewing. Coppertail Brewing has been making Florida-inspired beers just outside Ybor City since 2014. Visit their taproom across Channel Side Drive from Tampa's IKEA and enjoy a free dive IPA, night swim, porter, cloud dweller, hazy IPA or unholy triple today.

Speaker 1:

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