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Oleksandr Usyk vs Tyson Fury

Fritz and Franco Season 5 Episode 18

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Fritz and Franco end 2024 with a recap of their favorite fights from December. First the boys take a deep dive on the Oleksandr Usyk vs Tyson Fury fights. Then in "Playing Boxing", the boys break down the rest of the undercard and the Jaime Munguia vs Bruno Surace fight. As always, the boys break down all of the boxing... with a sense of humor.

Speaker 1:

Welcome to Punches and Punchlines, where we break down the best in boxing with a sense of humor. And now your hosts, fritz and Franco.

Speaker 2:

Welcome back everybody to this episode of Punches and Punchlines. Thanks for joining us again. We had a couple of great fights and, more importantly, a main event that I was looking forward to since the first fight ended. We are back to talking about Fury versus Usyk 2. Probably more appropriate is Usyk versus Fury 2, since he was the winner in both of them and just a complete badass. So I think his name should go first and that's what I just corrected myself to do.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I thought it was a really fun fight. I was definitely looking forward to it. It's cool to finally see the belts getting unified at the heavyweight division after years and years it felt like almost a decade of not necessarily people ducking each other, but just the stars not aligning. And finally the stars aligned and we finally got to see it and it lived up to the hype. I thought it was. It was awesome.

Speaker 1:

I do think that they could have done a better job, kind of hyping this up, that they could have done a better job kind of hyping this up. This was a huge deal. But instead we heard about Tyson. Mike Tyson, like the wrong Tyson, was getting tons of hype or someone like a Ryan Garcia. This was huge for boxing and then it was very underwhelming as far as like marketing goes. I think they need to step up their game a little bit. But other than that, for people like us, it lived up to the hype. We were super excited and it was awesome. So, yeah, let's go ahead and it's been a while fritz. Let's do a deep dive on this one.

Speaker 2:

Let's go ahead and get into it alexander usic, 37 years old, coming in at 22 and oh, versus tyson fury, 36 years old, coming in at 34, 1 and 1. For those that didn't watch his fight, you know you just heard that you got an unbeaten 22 and 0 fighter going against a guy with one loss and one draw. Now, fury's only loss was in the previous fight, coming in against Alexander Usyk. That one was a split decision and his draw was against Deontay Wilder when he somehow rose from the dead in the 12th round and beat the count. It was an absolute joy of a fight and this was a fight, like I had said in the open, that I was looking forward to since the bell rang at the final one in the first time around. Now, first time around there was a little controversy of whether it should have been stopped or whether the knockdown that was ruled was accurate. Mark Nelson, who was the referee in that one, has a really good track record from the fights that I've watched that he's usually making the right choices. So I get why he just called the knockdown and didn't stop the fight, and I don't even disagree with it. The right guy ended up winning that fight. Uh, anyway, and in this fight the right guy ended up winning.

Speaker 2:

Fury would have like moments of success, but not enough, just just not enough. You know, like I thought that the eight to four scorecard that the judges had was pretty accurate, that, yeah, you know, all the punches that he was able to land didn't look like it was coming with the normal steam because the shorter man was staying right in his face. As this fight wore on, the jab became less effective for Fury. And as that was happening, fury was less effective. At no point did he ever hurt Usyk or make me think that this fight was in doubt. And then at the end of it, no, there was no knockdown. So there was no like big drama to this fight. But what was nice was throughout the, from the opening bell to the closing bell, this was action where the smaller guy was chasing down the bigger guy.

Speaker 2:

All fight long, fury just does not have the answers for Alexander Usyk. We see why he wanted no part of this fight in the first place. I believe knew we couldn't win Like. This is a style that does not fit him. You mean athletic.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's just too too fast. He made every excuse to not fight Alexander Usyk. He's like oh, he's too small, I'm not fighting a middleweight. All right, that was his first thing. And then he came out with an offer. He's like all right, Usyk, we'll do the fight. We're going to have a 90-10 split, take it or leave it. And then he was shocked that Usyk's like all right, let's do it belly. You know, let's make this happen, fat boy. And he's like oh, but I can't because I got, you know, whatever. So all the talking that Fury did led me to really be rooting for Usyk. The dude is just a complete badass.

Speaker 2:

For people that aren't as familiar with Alexander Usyk, just a little background on him. He was a gold medalist and then an undisputed cruiserweight champion, which is, you know, just the weight class below heavyweight. He cleaned out cruiserweight and could not be touched there. You know, almost similar to when Evander Holyfield just cleaned out cruiserweight and there was no competition even near him, and the same thing kind of happened to Usyk. So he's like all right, well, I'm going to move up to heavyweight. His resume at heavyweight has been fantastic. You know like he started against chisora, which everybody, every heavyweight eventually has to fight derek chisora. But then he knocked out daniel devoy, he beat anthony joshua twice and now he's beat tyson fury twice. The dude is an absolute badass.

Speaker 2:

I don't know 37 yeah, I don't see anybody hanging with no, and you know?

Speaker 1:

another thing I guess you could say that's on his resume, that makes him awesome is he has like a really long, very successful amateur career. But that also kind of it's going to hurt his final payday and maybe his legacy a little bit. But who cares? Because he's cleaning house now. He's 37 years years old. He's only 22 and 0. So I think this young man has a bright future ahead of him, and it does kind of suck that this happens a lot with a lot of the female boxers that we like, where they start getting their flowers but they're in their late 30s. So it's like, oh man, that ending is coming so soon. It's almost like discovering a band and then they break up not too long after you discover them.

Speaker 1:

I'm hoping that alexander usik can do work now like he. He's not worrying about people ducking him. He should have people coming at him and he feels like a gamer, like he feels like a fighting champ, someone who's going to be taking on anybody and everybody, and I hope he does. I hope that they can cram as many fights into this before before it's too late. Like father, time gives everybody and we need our short king to be able to have his reign. He's six, three for it's. They kept talking about how little he is.

Speaker 2:

He's two of me like stacked on top of each other but when you're fighting a guy that's six nine, you do look tiny. You know what I mean and that's what was crazy about it, and I agree. I really look forward to whoever usic decides to fight next. I hope it is daniel dubois. That would be nice to see and be undisputed again. So anybody that doesn't follow it as much nerds like fr and I are One of the four belt companies. Basically, sanctuary Bodies said they stripped Usyk of his IBF title because he went for the rematch with Tyson Fury instead of whatever mandatory that they had. And so then it was. Daniel Dubois had to fight Anthony Joshua for the vacant belt and Daniel Dubois beat the shit out of Anthony Joshua. Yeah, so now he's the IBF champion. So I still see him as the undisputed heavyweight champ. But if you want to keep that title, take on the IBF mandatory now in Daniel Dubois, like he's earned the right for a rematch.

Speaker 2:

There was a little bit of controversy in the first fight. For those that were rooting Daniel Dubois. There seems to be a lot of controversy that when he hit him in the dick they're like no, it was right on the belt line. No, it ended at the belt line, but it started right at the bottom of his nutsack. You know Usyk was given the five minutes to recover because it was a straight shot to the nuts. It ended up with a jab knocking out daniel dubois later in that fight. So I would love to see that fight again. Usic has talked about maybe going back down to cruiserweight and I wouldn't mind seeing him fight. Dubois, walk away as the undisputed heavyweight champion.

Speaker 1:

Just go clean out cruiserweight again yeah, as far as the fight itself goes, some things I'm curious to see where we go from here. Fury, he was throwing haymakers, he was dropping bombs. Usik was absorbing them. It was very russia versus ukraine. It was awesome. But fury, you said it looked very out of shape, but also he's been big before in his upper body, he's been jiggly before and he's able to beat guys that are in great physical shape. His legs, though, looked so cartoonishly scrawny, like he was the definition of skipping leg. Day man looked like what were the? Were they pushups? The Flintstones, like Sherbert things where it was on a stick and you push the Sherbert up through the little tube? Yeah, yeah, he looked. He looked like a pushup, like one of those 1980s push-ups, just big and boxy and lumpy up top and then the skinniest chicken legs ever.

Speaker 2:

Yeah yeah, flamingo legs going in.

Speaker 1:

It was yeah, that's exactly what he looked like. You can't get any power behind those little toothpicks he had poking out from under his giant ass shorts and he looked bad. And then for the announcers to still be hyping him up was so I. I complain about the british announcers all the time and how they just love to gas up their own guys and, oh, look at how amazing he. Yet no, it was so bad. And so like one side, usic would be massacring him, not a peep. Or they like, oh, look at how Fury's absorbing these amazing shots, right, and it's like come on, man, your dude is getting his ass beat.

Speaker 1:

I was worried that the fix was in, especially because I had put money on Usyk to take this on the cards and I was like man, I fall for this every time. I'm like Charlie Brown with Lucy in the football. I'm like Charlie Brown with Lucy in the football. I'm a sucker again. And so when they announced it as Usyk taking it on the cards, I was happy because I won, but also the fix wasn't in. It went the correct way. It felt so good. But they had a new thing for this fight and it's something that we could see more of where they had AI as a fourth judge. It wasn't an official judge, but they were just using it to see how it worked and which I don't. I don't know why you have to have that on the TV. You could just post that on social media or whatever. That's fine. The fourth judge.

Speaker 2:

They have it on TV for old guys like me that try to avoid social media as much as they possibly can.

Speaker 1:

Well, so they so, so they put it up there. But then I saw it later on on social media what the actual score was by the AI. The AI had two 10-10 rounds and I was like that's a red flag, that's something. The actual judges had a 10-10 round. The guys on TV like there was a bunch of people that did give one 10-10 round, but for there to be two of them, and then what, we're going to be getting draws because yeah, some fight is going to have every round 10, 10.

Speaker 1:

You can't have that. There has to be that feel, that thing that humans bring to the table. That makes it a little bit. You know that, that gut instinct, and then we can complain about it afterwards. All right, just live scoring. Yeah, really, the problem with boxing isn't bringing a computer into the equation, it's sorting out and getting rid of these really bad judges that are completely off. Like the AI was very close to what the actual judges got and to what we thought. The score should be Perfect, but it's not a perfect system. So to replace people with AI, I don't think we're there yet. Also, will Smith warned us about this a long time ago. As much as I hate them, the robots are going to try to kill us for it, so I don't need them to be taken over boxing too.

Speaker 2:

Well, here's the. The other thing I might say. Maybe the judges got it right, cause they're like oh, I got a robot double checking my work. I better, I better dial this shit in and get it right. Maybe that was the plus. Maybe they just keep that on there. So people have to give us their legit and not their, their home cooking.

Speaker 1:

So you don't handle this shit, you're out of a job.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I absolutely love this fight. It was, you know, for a heavyweight fight to go just all action for 12 rounds. It was a joy. I definitely like Alexander Usyk and I was happy he won. I was also happy that Fury was mad and stormed out of the ring afterwards saying he won and took his sour grapes into the locker rooms. Yeah, I'll watch whoever Fury's fighting next, because I'm not necessarily a fan, but he is great, all right. I always hate these people like oh, my guy beat him because that guy sucked Alexander.

Speaker 2:

Usyk beat him and he's great. I think it's even more of a feather in Usyk's cap, because Fury is great, usyk is just better. It was, uh, absolutely a joy to watch for 12 rounds and can't see wait to see what both of them do next yeah, I definitely want to see fury again, especially because he's entertaining.

Speaker 1:

At the end of the day, this is a super entertaining dude. I like it. Like there's other guys that I feel like they're trolling us but they're not in on the joke. With Fury I feel like he's in on it, like it's just tongue in cheek enough that we let him get away with the silly stuff. It's when he starts fighting like MMA fighters are actually doing shitty stuff that he loses me a little bit. But I feel like he's right on that edge, like he knows how to play the game and I'm okay with it. I'm okay with the silliness and at the end of the day, it's all about us being entertained, like that's all that matters.

Speaker 1:

And this dude can put down a fight, like he can take so much punishment and you never know. Like during this fight, even we were worried a couple of times where he was landing these monster shots on Usyk. The thing is Usyk is just not human. Like he was absorbing them, them, like it was nothing but Fury. I want to see him again. He's a moneymaker. We're going to see him again. I hope he doesn't step away. I could see him doing that, because why does he have to keep doing this shit? I think he likes the attention, so I hope we see him again. Can't wait to see him again. I am so excited for 2025 and seeing what alexander usic does, it's like a scarier, crazier version of canelo, where he's just got all the belts he's got all the infinity stones.

Speaker 1:

What's he gonna do? Is he gonna snap his fingers? Is he gonna open up a strip club? We don't know. It's gonna be great to see fritz.

Speaker 2:

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Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

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Speaker 1:

This was brutal, fritz. First of all, munguia. Jaime Munguia, a national treasure, was fighting against Bruno Saras, a French guy. I was like, please, please. You saw this before me and you were like you have to tune into this. And so I'm watching the whole card or not the whole card, but I watched a good amount. Then I was like, oh my god, if you're telling me that he lost to this french dude, fritz, when he when I say he beat his ass, oh my god, bruno beat his ass and it wasn't like a flash knockdown, it was a for real knockdown knockout. It was bad. My ah, I'm so bummed. I love jaime munguia. I don't know what happened here, but Bruno Saras, bruno Saras went down Like he didn't look great and then he made Jaime Munguia look so shitty it broke my heart, fritz.

Speaker 2:

Well, here's what it's the old adage of If you can just get that one lucky punch in and I don't know that it was lucky because Saras was putting in his work he was getting his ass kicked for this whole fight. Like I didn't see any rounds going to saras, one through five, but then that sixth, while jaime munguia was getting a little greedy, saras lands one just square on the chin with everything he had, lands it right on the chin. Munguia just unfolds like a marionette, had its strings cut, doesn't beat the 10 count. And if you want to say oh, he was up at 10, well, I'll give you that. But he wasn't right and the ref was right to not let this one continue.

Speaker 2:

I thought this was definitely upset of the year. This guy came in at, I think, 25 and 0. But I don't think any of his fights had been outside of france, so I'm not sure the competition that he was facing over there. But he definitely showed when he stepped up to a world level competition that he, uh, at least had for one night he had the capability of beating a world level fighter. Yeah, it was. It was definitely something.

Speaker 2:

I was shocked when it happened. I'm like oh, oh, shit, this is, I'm just waiting for. I was waiting for the uh Munguia knockout. Like I wasn't expecting to watch Munguia get knocked out, so I'm sure that they're going to have a rematch on this. I said that it should be in Paris, you know, like this guy came to Munguia's backyard and knocked him out, like Munguia should now have to travel over to Paris and try to try to get one back on this guy. Or uh for greedy uh purposes. Chicago, I think it should be at Wintrust Arena or United Center, you know, I think that that would be. That would be fun one to go watch. But yeah, definitely upset of the year. Uh, I can't even think of something that would be in the running with this one.

Speaker 1:

I love the Paris idea, but I think that might actually work against Saras, because we've seen this before, where guys get their fight or gals get their fight in their hometown Right, and then it works against them. I remember he was fighting in Tijuana. Now, not only was, am I sure you know, he went to the local local taco joint, you know, hit up like all the local places. People were cheating him. Great, probably didn't get to sleep that well because he's out partying or whatever. No, I'm sure he wasn't doing any of that, but the count that count was definitely. It felt very different. Now we were just talking about Usyk and Fury their first time around. Fury went down, and so I was watching the replays of what happened last time. He got up and looked more shaken than Jaime Munguia did when he got up from this count. So in that situation, though, they were in a different location From what I understand, from what I was reading, in Tijuana they don't F around Like if you're, they don't do the whole.

Speaker 1:

All right, give me your gloves, take two steps forward, take two steps back, put your right foot in, put your right foot out. They don't do any of that. Uh, it's just. How do you look all right. Nope, you look like shit fights over versus in vegas. We have seen, you know, these like 15, 20 counts that these guys get and they give them time to kind of recover. I guess they don't do that in tijuana.

Speaker 1:

So, yeah, if this was in france, I don, I don't know that it would be to his benefit. He should be like I'm doubling down on Tijuana, let's do a bigger venue. I want a bigger cut. If you want to rematch like milk it for all it's worth. He basically he landed one good shot. Uh, I hope he doesn't get his haircut. He kind of looked like he could have been in the misfits because all of his hair he had, like his bangs, coming down into one super long widow's peak that was coming all the way down to like his nose. Don't, don't cut the hair. Keep it in your eyes. Apparently, it helped because you didn't see this monster coming at you and you ended up landing this great shot. It was definitely shocking. I think Jaime Munguia is the better boxer, but I'm kind of rooting for Saras say, and I feel bad saying that I feel bad saying that, but everybody loves an underdog story.

Speaker 1:

You know, Viva La France, right, let's do it. Let's, let's get in there, but do it in Tijuana again. Paris would be cool, that way he could have his come up. But then it's going to work against him. He's going to be all full of.

Speaker 2:

That's what I'm saying. I wanted to go against him because I'm still rooting Munguia. So, yeah, bring it over to France, let him have his huge homecoming. You know, just flip the script completely. Instead of Munguia fighting in his home backyard and being comfortable, this is, you know, balboa going to Moscow. This is what's going to happen. So I love it. Yeah, it was good. Kudos to Saras for, you know, coming over into the guy's backyard and scoring the knockout. It was a one punch, but he trained his ass off to be in that position to throw that one punch. So, you know, kudos to him. You did beat a legit 168 pound fighter, so that's, uh, that's awesome for him. So I wanted to talk a little more about the, the undercard of Usyk Fury. One of your uh, one of your primo started it out for us.

Speaker 1:

Franco. Uh, we've already kicked him out of the family. You know we don't see my name often, or my last name often up on the screen. Same with you. Like you don't, you don't see Nathan Eagle up on the screen all the time, but when you do, and then the guy sucks like what are we doing? It was so disappointing joshua ocampo versus muhammad alakal and muhammad whooped the shit out of him. It went the distance, but at no point was I like oh, joshua's doing so good. It was so embarrassing. And then, on top of it, he was light-skinned. So it's like a light-skinned Ocampo.

Speaker 2:

I thought, for sure he was your TO or your primo. The only thing.

Speaker 1:

I'm hanging my hat up on is he's Colombian and he lives in Spain. Well, colombia's cool, but the Spain part that's an X. Get him out of here. He's already out of the family.

Speaker 2:

He's not invited to the cookout fritz yeah, now the kind of the controversial fight johnny fisher versus david allen. Now, for anybody that's been listening to punches and punchlines since the beginning, we've covered david allen fights before and this guy was supposed to be you know europe's. He was going to be their up-and-coming heavyweight and then just he'd have a good fight and then two bad fights. A good fight, two bad fights, and so now he's no longer their their up-and-coming guy. He was taking on their new up-and-coming guy, johnny fisher, and while holding the back of johnny fisher's head he lands a shot to johnny fisher's chin and then just beats the shit out of him.

Speaker 2:

In the fifth round. This kind of from that knockdown on was in control of the fight. Both of these dudes looked like out of shape and out of breath. I can't say it was a joy to watch. No, but that felt like the fix was in on that one, because David Allen had that 10-8 round and controlled the second half of this fight and still the decision went to Johnny Fisher. A split decision, but still I didn't see that Johnny Fisher had won that fight.

Speaker 1:

No, I agree, I thought this was a robbery. Also, allen looked so goofy. Oh gosh, who did I say? He looked like from the old Looney Tunes cartoons, cecil yeah, there you go. He looked like from the old Looney Tunes cartoons Cecil yeah, there you go. He looked like Cecil the Turtle. That was his posture, where his neck was stretched forward from the old Looney Tunes cartoons, and his back look all hunched over like a turtle. Yeah, you hit the nail on the head, man. These dudes were just so sloppy and gasping for air. And then to have a wonky score to finish it off the whole thing. Really, the biggest losers were us and those people in attendance in saudi arabia. I I didn't think this was a great fight. It was entertaining like watching bum fights. Like it was entertaining yeah, like watching a bar fight, but not.

Speaker 1:

We couldn't look away I'll say that it was they were just so out of shape and so goofy and so for. For it to have a shitty ending was just kind of like the turd on top of our poop sandwich.

Speaker 2:

Right, absolutely. And then I mean there was a couple of decent fights in there. I don't know if you had any that you had notes that you wanted to talk about, but the Surrey Boachuk to Ishmael Davis I thought Davis was trying and that's what. That's a dude that just looked ripped, you know.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2:

But at the end of end of six he just retired on his stool and I don't blame, like Boa Chuck, I don't know what it is about Ukrainian boxers but, they have. They have a motor man where it's just high performance in. There's like an unlimited gas tank to these dudes. It's incredible. I know that you know I'm just mentioning greats right now, but Lomachenko, alexander, usyk and Bojack I've watched them fight multiple times and never once have I seen them look gassed at all.

Speaker 1:

No, bojack looks like he would be playing in some kind of a movie where you end up in like a Ukrainian prison and your cellmate is this little scrawny dude and he's like I will help you escape. And then all of a sudden he just goes like Rambo mode and kills everybody and when he rips off his shirt he's a lot more cut than you would have thought him to be. Right, he isn't like the scariest looking dude, but when he's fighting the boxing is so pure and so beautiful. It's like watching, you know, like Deadpool massacre an entire army of people where he's just this like force. But he doesn't look it.

Speaker 1:

And for Davis Davis, his upper body was ridiculous. Like he had like action figure, superhero type muscles where it was like muscles on his muscles but uh, kind of like fury. The legs were a little bit skinny, it was. It was looking like he might have skipped leg day. But you know, when you're watching the fight you're looking at the upper body and you're thinking, oh, this dude like davis is gonna kill bohachuk and then bohachuk just so smooth man like this guy is fun to watch. He's such a good boxer and tons of action and power, like when he was dropping them the punches don't look crazy, but when you see them in slow motion you're like, oh look, you can see Davis's soul leaving his body momentarily before it goes back in to keep him alive. It's. It was awesome. I love Bohachuk. I'm looking forward to seeing him some more. I think maybe a rematch with Ortiz, I don't know. There's a lot of question marks moving into 2025 with all of boxing and I'm looking forward to seeing.

Speaker 2:

Hopefully we can get the fights that we want and we don't see the big names fighting a bunch of no names, but we'll see, and on this card we we had evidence of why rabbit punches are illegal moses ituma I'm probably saying that wrong versus dempsey mckean. All right, that's where the 19 year old kid landed. Uh, a couple of haymakers, oh yeah, and the first one looked like it landed behind the head and then mckean wasn't right, all right like he gets up and beats the count, but he wasn't right and then moses just finished the job.

Speaker 2:

That was ko1 and you just see why rabbit punches are illegal. Like he was not right, he landed a beautiful overhand left but uh, mckean kind of turned and ducked, so then the punch landed behind him. It wasn't dirty, I'm not saying that this was McKean ducked and turned to where the punch would hit him in the back of the head and it did a lot of damage. While he's stumbling, I was like, oh, that's a great evidence right there.

Speaker 1:

That should be the video of why, uh, rabbit punches are illegal yeah, and I almost feel like the term rabbit punch is misleading in this case, because bunnies, you know they're cute, they're little furry. This was like a huge hooking wind up of a punch. And then, yeah, it's just shitty luck, he kind of turned and the punch landed right on the back of his head and then you know, you know where the term came from right.

Speaker 2:

When you're hunting rabbits, you smack them behind the head and it kills them oh, oh, that's fucking horrible on the other hand that's how you kill a fish, too, right you?

Speaker 1:

just smash it in the head with the rolling pin, right. Then you go on ahead and fillet it because, uh, your dad has a million fish lined up for you to clean up. Right, that's everybody. Um, but there he did end up slipping a couple of times. There was uh one where it looked like he might have maybe caught an elbow to the back of the head or something.

Speaker 1:

So it's like damage on top of the damage yeah so when the final knockout came, it was right on his ear and I don't know. Moses atama fought a good fight. He fought a good fight, but he just doesn't look like the scariest dude. I don't know if it's, he's kind of got a baby face or maybe it was like his beard isn't the greatest beard it's not a terrible beard, but it wasn't the best beard, like we've definitely seen better. Maybe it's the haircut, I don't know, but somebody needs to get this man into a barber, get him a glow up for his next fight. He just he looked unfinished. You know he looked like he was a last minute addition and he's not. So yeah, go out, get cleaned up, come back looking clean for your next fight so you don't look like a 16-year-old that won like a Make-A-Wish thing and got to go into a fight in front of a big crowd, but the punches were awesome.

Speaker 2:

He didn't do anything wrong.

Speaker 1:

He definitely got to power. The power was cool.

Speaker 2:

And yeah, mckean, or whoever that was, can attest to that for sure.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, oh, whoever that was could uh can attest to that for sure. So yeah, oh shit, I just looked at he's only 19. Uh, yeah, so he is a kid, he was he was 19 at the time of the fight.

Speaker 2:

Looks like he might have had a birthday since then hey, happy, happy birthday moses.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, felice cuplianos uh so that explains why he needs the glow. Somebody needs to take this boy in to like a real barber. Uh, it's not that hard. There's plenty of places. Maybe they didn't have anything in saudi arabia and he was there adjusting at the time, although arabic barbers are the best he's.

Speaker 2:

Uh, let's see, he was born in slovakia and now currently resides in chatham, kent, uh, in the uk there. Well, that explains that for yeah I don't know who's their, who's their football club over there in chatham, kent I?

Speaker 1:

couldn't even find that on a map. I feel horrible, like I love looking at like random uk stuff. Uh, in general, yeah, couldn't find it on a map, don't know. On the other hand, they can't they can't find oklahoma on the map. So it works out in the end. But, yeah, this poor kid. Come on, he's 19, somebody needs to get him. Find him a nice arabic barber. They do like really good, like tight fades. It can't be that hard to find. But, come on, somebody in kent help this kid out because, uh, I think it would have added a little bit more umph, a little bit of a little exclamation point onto his fight because he can go to richard torres as a stylist.

Speaker 1:

Richard doesn't have a he rolled out of bed looking like that Too great.

Speaker 2:

What do? We have coming up. Franco, I'm looking at the schedule right now. Looks like there's a card in Tokyo on New Year's Eve, but it doesn't look like there's any coverage for it. January 11th in England there's a card on Peacock. Daniel Dubois' sister caroline will be on that one. Steve woodall versus callum simpson check that out on sheffield yeah, and on the old peacock.

Speaker 2:

Oh then our guy, january 24th, those will definitely be back with an episode after this. January 24th, nioya anyway is fighting in tokyo and that is over on the espn plus. So anytime, no, yo anyway is fighting pound for pound, number two fighter on planet earth. I will be tuning in and itching to tell you guys about it yeah, friday kind of sucks yeah, but it'll probably be like friday at 3 am or something here true. So maybe we'll be out drinking on that Thursday then, Franco, so we can check it out live.

Speaker 2:

But, yeah, if anybody out there is listening is like, oh, what should I? What should I be watching January 24th on ESPN Plus? Watch that for sure, and we'll be back to to give you our thoughts on that. One I have, because I wasn't sure who whose turn it was. That one I have, uh, cause I wasn't sure who, uh, whose turn it was. Franco, I did pull up a trivia question If you, if you got one, if you're, if you're ready to go.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you ready. Okay, uh, people at home you can play along. This is my trivia question for Franco in our deep dive today, and the undefeated Alexander Usyk that we were talking about. All right, now, I'm going to give you four people. You're going to tell me who he did not beat. Okay, all right, now, it was Marco Huck, jonathan Crane, felipe Romero, pedro Julio Rodriguez.

Speaker 1:

Oh shit.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to go with Crane. Okay, jonathan Crane, you're going to say he did not beat Jonathan Crane, correct, okay. Jonathan Crane, you're going to say he did not beat Jonathan Crane. Correct, dr Jonathan Crane the scarecrow. Oh, thank God, he did not beat Jonathan Crane. So you're right, I kept it in the DC universe. Thank you, right there.

Speaker 1:

I'm like for a brief moment there, and this is what throws me off with it. Whenever we do this trivia game is I'll hear boxers names that I know and then I'm like do I know that person is a boxer or is that like their name, like their actual name for?

Speaker 2:

something else, and then I get all worried. Aquaman yeah, all right, so you nailed it again, franco.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'll have to have one ready for you next time.

Speaker 2:

You can have one ready for us when we're coming back to discuss our boyfriend. Have one ready for us when we're coming back to discuss our boyfriend, naoya Inoue. I'm telling you it's worth even getting a subscription to ESPN Plus just to watch Naoya Inoue fight. Go on YouTube and watch Naoya Inoue highlights. If you don't know how to spell that it's I-N-O-U-E, you can just put in I-N-O-U-E highlights on YouTube and you're in for a treat. It's goddamn joy to watch this dude fight. You know a 122 pounder that punches like a goddamn middleweight. So do that for the end of the year. Happy New Year to everybody.

Speaker 1:

Now, before we take off. Fritz, yeah, you have some stuff you have. Your final show ever is coming up soon.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Fritz is going to be stepping away from full-time comedy. No, not full-time. Like wrestlers always do that. I'm not going to be a full-time wrestler anymore and then they show up like once every five years, but Fritz is going to be stepping away from the comedy world and he has his final show ever coming up. So, fritz, you want to tell us a little bit about that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, March, tell us a little bit about that. Yeah, March 8th at the Zanies in Rosemont. Rosemont is right near O'Hare airport in the Chicagoland area. So yeah, if you guys want to come out, go to zaniescom, search the Rosemont March 8th you can get. Tickets are available now. Come see me before I'm done doing standup. And uh, if you're in Kansas city, Omaha, Nebraska or Des Moines, Iowa, I have part of my farewell tour. I'll be in Kansas City February 12th. Let me look at the calendar.

Speaker 1:

You hear that Taylor Swift.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, let me see, I know she's a listener. February, all right, so February 12th I'm in Kansas City, missouri. February 13th I'm in Omaha, nebraska. February 14th and 15th I'm in Des Moines, iowa. You can go to chaddaniellzcom to get tickets to those shows.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Chad's a great show too. So you get to see one of Fritz's final performances and you get to laugh your ass off at Chad. So a one-two punch combo should be awesome.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. So, yeah, happy New Year everybody. Thanks for tuning in, thanks for listening, thanks for subscribing, thanks to franco to doing all the work and, uh, getting these episodes ready for you guys. Happy new year and uh, if you don't have anything else, franco, I'm throwing in the towel thank you for listening to punches and punchlines.

Speaker 1:

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