This second episode continues a discussion about the title of this podcast 'Riding on the Clouds'. The discussion is between Richard and Emily and was recorded on 10th August 2020 along with the first episode. The date itself serves to provide insight into the gracious hand of the Lord, while the subject of grief and its connection with Revival is further explored. Excerpts from the book 'A Grief Sanctified' by the late JI Packer are read as the subject of Christian hope is presented in the midst of a world in which we experience grief. This hope is an implicit component of Revival which at its heart is the bringing of comfort to those who mourn for the kingdom of God. The main speaker is Rev Richard Lane who is an Anglican minister in the Eastern Suburbs of Sydney.